[05:58] <Squirm> morning
[06:58] <Kilos> morning all
[06:58] <kodez> morning uncle Kilos
[06:59] <Kilos> all good kodez ?
[07:01] <kodez> i am better than yesterday, thanks for asking
[07:02] <Squirm> morning
[07:06] <kodez> is there anyone using lubuntu here?
[07:06] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[07:07] <Squirm> kodez: not I, but if it's a general Ubuntu issue you can ask anyway
[07:07] <Squirm> can't say I'm a big fan of LXDE
[07:07] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[07:07] <Cantide> hey Kilos :)
[07:07] <Cantide> how are you/
[07:07] <Cantide> ?
[07:07] <Squirm> hello Cantide 
[07:07] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[07:07] <Cantide> Squirm :)
[07:07] <Cantide> Kilos, i'm okay - mild hangover and got 4 hours sleep last night
[07:07] <Squirm> although, LXDE is light :P
[07:07] <Cantide> but it seems i will still be able to study
[07:07] <Kilos> eina
[07:08] <Kilos> self inflicted punishment
[07:08] <Cantide> :D
[07:08] <Squirm> thus why I don't feel sympathy :P
[07:08] <Cantide> yeah, i've been behaving for too long
[07:08] <Cantide> it was just a matter of time
[07:09] <Cantide> it's okay, it was worth it :)
[07:09] <Squirm> meh
[07:09] <Squirm> it never feels worth it the next day :/
[07:09] <Kilos> lol
[07:09] <Cantide> nah, i'm not that hungover, really
[07:10] <Cantide> just a slight headache which might be more from lack of sleep
[07:10] <Squirm> Friday I was out, last night I just had a few beers watching the Sharks win
[07:10] <Cantide> nice :)
[07:10] <Squirm> and the Blue Bulls epic lose
[07:10] <Squirm> I lol'd
[07:10] <Cantide> Squirm, are you from Bloem or DBN?
[07:11] <Cantide> I also lol'd at that :p
[07:11] <Squirm> Cantide: more central kzn
[07:11] <Cantide> aha
[07:11] <Cantide> but you're a Sharks supporter i take it
[07:11] <Squirm> indeed
[07:11] <Cantide> cool :)
[07:11] <Cantide> that game was close
[07:11] <Squirm> where abouts are you from?
[07:12] <Cantide> we always seem to slack off in the first half
[07:12] <Cantide> Durban
[07:12] <Squirm> tbh, I can't believe we won. was an awesome comeback
[07:12] <Cantide> yeah
[07:12] <kodez> how to install pae?
[07:12] <Cantide> sucks to be a cheetahs fan
[07:12] <Kilos> sharks always struggle in the beginning of the cup because half the team is in the boks squad
[07:12] <Squirm> down 21-6
[07:12] <Squirm> and we won
[07:13] <Cantide> Kilos, that's also true, but it's true for bulls and WP, too
[07:14] <Kilos> well see when they are all home again
[07:14] <Squirm> kodez: I don't know, sorry
[07:14] <Kilos> wasnt happy losing to the bulls last week
[07:14] <Cantide> i'm still pining after that loss to the chiefs
[07:14] <Cantide> in the super rugby
[07:14] <Cantide> think i've seen enough rugby for the year
[07:14] <Kilos> ya that was sad
[07:14] <Kilos> like the sharks were payed to lose
[07:15] <Cantide> hmm
[07:15] <Cantide> not so sure about that
[07:16] <Cantide> they ran us off our feet
[07:16] <kodez> if i configure that my laptop must switch off if not used in ten minutes, it does so even if i am playing a movie. how can i correct this?
[07:16]  * Cantide doesn't know about auto-shutdown ._.
[07:18] <Kilos> kodez, is there a lubuntu irc channel
[07:18] <Kilos> yip #lubuntu
[07:19] <Kilos> they might know the ins and outs of lubuntu better
[07:19] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[07:19] <Kilos> yay
[07:19] <CanStudy> i think i'd better get started... else i might procrastinate all day :p
[07:20] <Kilos> lol
[07:20] <psydroid> hi Kilos and CanStudy
[07:20] <CanStudy> hi ^^
[07:21] <kodez> uncle Kilos, I am consistently failing to get an answer from them
[07:22] <Kilos> thats one of those channels where you have to be very patient
[07:22] <Kilos> no other channel seems as quick to offer help as here
[07:23] <kodez> I will keep on trying to research how to fix my laptop
[07:24] <CanStudy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/129366/shutdown-in-specific-way-if-no-one-uses-computer
[07:24] <CanStudy> the last solution on that page sounds good
[07:24] <CanStudy> but i'm no script-guru, so i wouldn't know how suitable it is :-S
[07:24] <CanStudy> trying can't hurt, surely...
[07:25] <Kilos> bbnn
[07:25] <Kilos> gonna sort sheep
[07:31] <kodez> CanStudy, thanks. i now have ideas how to fix my problem
[07:42] <Kilos> kodez, dont you have an option where you can do screensavers and power
[07:43] <Kilos> and make your settings default
[07:45] <kodez> i do. if i use those ones to switch off the system if not used for 10 minutes, it do so even if i am watching a movie
[07:52] <Kilos> lol
[07:52] <Kilos> go change them again
[07:53] <Kilos> set it for never switch off for starters
[07:53] <kodez> i did. i think i must try to use the script to check if i am still using it
[08:01] <kodez> how can i modify the script to check if mplayer or vlc is being used if not switch off?
[09:18] <Kilos> kodez, why did you go for lubuntu
[09:20] <kodez> unity and gnome 3 doesn't work in old laptops and i tried puppy linux and it worked well i then changed it to lubuntu after the launch of ubuntu 12.04
[09:22] <Kilos> doesnt unity 2d work even?
[09:22] <Kilos> my desktop pc is old but it works here
[09:22] <kodez> it does work well
[09:22] <CanStudy> unity 2d is going to be dropped, afaik
[09:23] <Kilos> arent they bringing something else out in its place for older pcs?
[09:23] <Kilos> i read somewhere about a new interface i think its called
[09:24] <kodez> unity doesn't work well in my mother's laptop
[09:24] <Kilos> inetpro, should know
[09:25] <Kilos> i only use 2d as well because when i activate the nvidia-server thing it sees my pc as a lappy and goes 640x480 screen
[09:25] <Kilos> so i gave up and use 2d
[09:27] <CanStudy> lol
[09:27] <CanStudy> tried updating drivers?
[09:28] <kodez> i am happy with lubuntu even it's not in the unity standard
[09:28] <CanStudy> :)
[09:31] <Kilos> i will try lubuntu when my son gets here with the iso sometime
[09:32] <kodez> where are you residing uncle Kilos?
[09:32] <Kilos> pta
[09:33] <kodez> which side? east, west, south?
[09:33] <kodez> or north?
[09:33] <Kilos> west 
[09:33] <Kilos> towards brits
[09:34] <kodez> you are far from me. I have the desktop and alternate 32 bit.
[09:34] <Kilos> my son will bring when he gets a chance or has work to do in pta
[09:35] <Kilos> he has downloaded lots of iso's for me
[09:35] <kodez> kwl
[09:35] <Kilos> but im still getting used to unity 2d so no rush
[09:35] <Kilos> but still prefer gnome2
[09:37] <Kilos> i have even tried tinycorelinux but cant get the usb modem to connect without getting more packages
[09:37] <kodez> i prefere gnome2 too
[09:38] <Kilos> it was quicker in my opinion
[09:39] <Kilos> well still is
[09:43] <kodez> let me get my work of the incoming tray and will log in again later
[09:44] <smile4> :)
[09:48] <Kilos> hi smile4 
[09:49] <smile4> hi Kilos 
[09:49] <smile4> I'm tired
[09:49] <smile4> :p
[10:05] <Squirm> I'm Squirm
[10:05] <Squirm> :p
[10:06]  * Squirm ponders
[10:06] <Squirm> Ubuntu
[10:06] <Squirm> or
[10:06] <Squirm> Mint
[10:09] <smile4> Squirm: both! :p
[10:45] <Squirm> smile4: I'm scared
[10:45] <Squirm> :P
[10:56] <Kilos> you scared Squirm ?
[10:57] <Kilos> oh my
[10:58] <Squirm> what if I break something
[10:58] <Squirm> and then I've lost my data
[10:58] <Kilos> cant you do it in virtual box
[10:59] <Squirm> I want to install Ubuntu
[10:59] <Kilos> then run alongside
[10:59] <Squirm> no
[11:00] <Kilos> why?
[11:00] <Squirm> I have 3 partitions, / and /home and one where I store windows. so if I install it on /, I technically shouldn't lose my data
[11:00] <Squirm> but I'm scared :P
[11:01] <Kilos> backup first
[11:01] <sakhi> techinally you should not loose data as long as backup and create a volume/partition for the new installation.
[11:02] <sakhi> *technically
[11:02] <Squirm> sakhi: I want to overwrite my current distro. there shouldn't be a problem
[11:03] <Squirm> I can format and install it on sda1, because all my non-OS data is on sda5
[11:03] <sakhi> why don't you do-release-upgrade?
[11:04] <sakhi> that way you wont loose data but you will use bandwidth
[11:04] <Squirm> possible to move from Debian Squeeze to Ubuntu Natty?
[11:09] <Squirm> na
[11:09] <Squirm> I'll format
[11:09] <Squirm> mebbe tomorrow
[14:35] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[14:35]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[14:35] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you here?
[14:35] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[14:37] <superfly> hi Kilos
[14:39] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[14:39] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[14:39] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[15:32] <Cantide> so Ubuntu just died on me -.-
[15:32] <Cantide> PC froze, when i rebooted had a nice little kernel panic
[15:32] <Cantide> i think the kernel got corrupt when it froze
[15:33] <Cantide> how do i fix this without reinstalling?
[15:47] <Symmetria> dammit
[15:47] <Symmetria> Im gonna have to switch to using cli exclusively
[15:47] <Symmetria> my damn dog just stole my second wireless mouse 
[15:47] <Symmetria> and chewed it up
[15:48] <Kilos> Cantide, can you boot to grub menu and go recovery
[15:48] <Cantide> i tried
[15:48] <Cantide> it failed
[15:48] <Kilos> ok
[15:48] <Cantide> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[15:48] <Cantide> this looks okay
[15:48] <Kilos> boot from cd then get boot-repair
[15:48] <Cantide> i'll give it a shot..
[15:49] <Kilos> ok try that first
[15:50] <Kilos> Cantide, how did you get here if you cant boot
[15:50] <Kilos> http://www.howopensource.com/2012/05/reinstall-recover-grub-from-ubuntu-12-04-live-cd-usb/
[15:50] <Cantide> sometimes it reaches grub
[15:50] <Cantide> sometimes it doesn't
[15:51] <Cantide> had a kernel panic once
[15:51] <Cantide> another time i didn't
[15:51] <Kilos> ok try till you see recovery then use that
[15:54] <Kilos> otherwise option 2 here
[15:54] <Kilos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:01] <Cantide> i think i need to reboot to see if i fixed it
[16:02] <smile4> bye
[16:02] <smile4> :p
[16:02] <Cantide> '-'
[16:02] <Kilos> cheers smile4 
[16:02] <smile4> byebye :)
[16:37] <Kilos> oh my cantide didnt win, looks like
[16:39] <Symmetria> hrm
[16:39] <Symmetria> I want something that can read mp3 id3 tags and make me a nice html index
[16:39] <Symmetria> :p
[16:41] <Symmetria> hrm it seems that mp3tag can do that
[16:42] <Kilos> Symmetria, are you using ubuntu?
[16:42] <Symmetria> kilos using about every operating system you can name :)
[16:42] <Symmetria> I have loads of machines here at home
[16:42] <Kilos> http://forums.cnet.com/7723-6617_102-514512/how-to-edit-id3-tags-in-ubuntu/
[16:43] <Symmetria> heh, I got a tag editor, been editing tags alllll day
[16:43] <Symmetria> now I just wanna make pretty index's 
[16:43] <Symmetria> :)
[16:43] <Kilos> ah
[16:43] <Symmetria> got about 17 thousand tracks not properly tagged yet 
[16:43] <Symmetria> in the mp3 section
[16:43] <Symmetria> maybe another 15 thousand flacs 
[16:43] <Kilos> your music is gonna be the death of you
[16:43] <Symmetria> which means Im 2/3rds of the way through :p
[16:44] <Symmetria> actually real easy to tag with the software Im using
[16:44] <Symmetria> select the album, tell the software to search amazon for the album, hit review, make sure that the tagging matches up with the actual tracks and hit go
[16:44] <Symmetria> and it tags the album with the album art from amazon and the proper track names, numbers, etc
[16:45] <Kilos> one by one
[16:45] <Kilos> ?
[16:45] <Kilos> you gonna be old and gray before you finished
[16:45] <Symmetria> heh no, it does it basically an album at a time
[16:45] <Kilos> whew
[16:45] <Symmetria> then hit another button and it renames all the files nicely and puts em in nice directories
[16:46] <Symmetria> with some pretty cool regex's
[16:46] <Symmetria> lol, hold on, will show you something
[16:46] <Symmetria> kilos whats your email addy :)
[16:47] <Kilos> msdomdonner@gmail.com
[16:50] <Symmetria> there
[16:50] <Symmetria> :p go look at that
[16:50] <Kilos> ok
[16:51] <Symmetria> heh everything thats not in the unsorted section is correctly tagged, with correct album art etc
[16:52] <Kilos> holy moly
[16:52] <Kilos> will take years to listen to all of that
[16:52] <Symmetria> lol, scary thing is, if its not a bootleg or impossible to buy, I own originals for I would recon 99% of that
[16:52] <Symmetria> :p
[16:52] <Kilos> whew
[16:53] <Kilos> no master of reality by sabbath
[16:53] <Kilos> or have i got the wrong group
[16:53] <Symmetria> hrm, if I dont have it lol, I'll probably find it when I do my next check against what Im missing in discographies and get it then
[16:54] <Symmetria> every so often I take each artist and do a search and fill in missing albums
[16:54] <Symmetria> :p
[16:54] <Kilos> ah
[16:54] <Kerbero> i would in such a case just index all my music in a mysql database
[16:54] <Kerbero> and write a php script to display w/e on a website
[16:55] <Symmetria> heh yeah i should do that 
[16:55] <Kilos> http://www.amazon.com/Master-Reality-Black-Sabbath/dp/B000002KDO
[16:55] <Kerbero> it is basically what i did with my series
[16:55] <Kilos> dunno why i remember that
[16:56] <Kilos> musta enjoyed it 100 years ago
[16:56] <Symmetria> heh some of the stuff I have to actually scan the damn artwork myself because not even amazon can find it :p
[16:58] <Symmetria> you know something is pretty rare when amazon, discogz and freedb cant match it
[16:59] <Kerbero> indeed
[17:00] <Kerbero> i had it a lot with some classical cd's of my parents
[17:00] <Kerbero> and some afrikaans artists' cd's
[17:00] <Kilos> its no wonder youre always complaining about prices
[17:00] <Kilos> music costs
[17:02] <Symmetria> heh kilos I dont even wanna know how much Ive spent on my music collection
[17:02] <Symmetria> its an insanely sick amount 
[17:02] <Symmetria> similar to my book collection
[17:02] <Kilos> lol
[17:02] <Symmetria> lol, I have 1300 fantasy titles in my book library excluding my ebooks
[17:03] <Symmetria> 1300 books x average of 120 bux a book probably = way 2 much money :p
[17:30] <magespawn> evening all
[17:32] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:32] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[17:32] <Kilos> my external was mounted as /media/usb0 and 1
[17:35] <magespawn> ahh there we go, nice to find the answer
[17:35] <Kilos> but had to go into home filesystem to find it
[17:36] <Kilos> booted from maverick again and they show on desktop as backup and storage
[17:37] <Kilos> hows things by you?
[17:42] <Cantide> good news
[17:42] <Cantide> i got it working '-'
[17:42] <Kilos> yay wb
[17:42] <Cantide> bad news
[17:42] <Kilos> uh oh
[17:42] <Cantide> i fought with a girl for a few hours else i would have been back online sooner
[17:42] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <magespawn> good thanks Kilos
[17:43] <Kilos> woulda been bad news if you pc was dead
[17:43] <Cantide> yeah, because i can't buy another PC
[17:43] <Kilos> Cantide, save that last link i gave you
[17:43] <Cantide> but i can buy another girl :p
[17:43] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <Cantide> boot repair thingy?
[17:43] <Cantide> i'll find it again if i need it :p
[17:43] <magespawn> not a good thing to fight with a girl, you always lose even if you thinknyou have won
[17:43] <Cantide> oh, i won
[17:44] <Cantide> and she got upset so she left
[17:44] <Kilos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:44] <Cantide> she knew that i knew i won
[17:44] <Kilos> that works when nothing else does Cantide 
[17:44] <Cantide> thanks Kilos :)
[17:44] <nuvolari> eek :-/ had no electricity for just over 13 hours today :(
[17:44] <Kilos> haha magespawn  you so right
[17:44] <nuvolari> howdy oom Kilos, magespawn, Cantide 
[17:44] <Kilos> eish nuvolari 
[17:45] <magespawn> hey nuvolari
[17:45] <Cantide> hello :)
[17:45] <Cantide> welcome back to civilisation :p
[17:45] <magespawn> buy a solar panel, generator and a big ups
[17:45] <nuvolari> thank you! We are so dependent on electricity it's not even funny
[17:46] <Cantide> and a bicycle (hamster wheel style)
[17:46] <nuvolari> what do you do an entire day without a computer? :O
[17:46]  * nuvolari napped
[17:46] <Kilos> sleep
[17:46] <nuvolari> lol
[17:46] <Kilos> hehe
[17:46] <nuvolari> ok, and played guitar a little bit
[17:46] <magespawn> take photos
[17:46] <Cantide> sometimes it's a good thing :p
[17:47] <nuvolari> magespawn: that solar panel can come in handy!
[17:47] <magespawn> right with a pen and paper
[17:47] <magespawn> indeed
[17:47] <nuvolari> Cantide: +1 on that
[17:47] <magespawn> superfly you around?
[17:47] <nuvolari> one needs a break from tech, even the basic household electronics, once in a while
[17:48] <magespawn> yup indeed
[17:48] <nuvolari> magespawn: right, one can even write :P
[17:48]  * nuvolari ducks
[17:48] <Kilos> hehe
[17:48] <magespawn> that too
[17:49]  * magespawn slaps nuvolari with a wet trout
[17:50]  * nuvolari hangs his fishy smelling shirt up by magespawn's PC
[17:50] <magespawn> lol
[17:50] <nuvolari> there
[17:50] <magespawn> i wonder why the fish always gets it
[17:51] <nuvolari> oh no, this isn't happening... this isn't happening!!! :(
[17:51] <magespawn> bye nuvolari
[17:51] <Kilos> ?
[17:51] <nuvolari> great, the one area at the office is becoming a temporary nursery...
[17:51] <nuvolari> no, electricity is fine now :P
[17:51] <Kilos> now you can have kids
[17:51] <magespawn> ooh thought the power was going again
[17:52] <nuvolari> having babbies crying and pooping around the office is not the best of ideas IMHO
[17:52] <Kilos> lol
[17:52] <magespawn> you at the office now?
[17:52] <nuvolari> no
[17:52] <Cantide> somehow i pictured plants before babies..
[17:52] <nuvolari> just got an email from the CEO
[17:52] <nuvolari> Cantide: yeh, that would be better, 'green' and silent
[17:53] <nuvolari> Kilos: I still need a woman to have them with :P
[17:53] <nuvolari> otherwise I'm quite stuck
[17:53] <Kilos> oh ya
[17:54] <magespawn> www.russianbrides.com
[17:54] <nuvolari> bwahaha
[17:54]  * nuvolari takes a peek anyhow
[17:54] <Kilos> there some cute ruskies
[17:55] <Cantide> nuvolari, well, there is a girl in Busan right now
[17:55] <Cantide> who may be vulnerable
[17:55] <Cantide> just saying
[17:55] <nuvolari> Busan? where's that?
[17:55] <Cantide> South Korea
[17:55] <Cantide> just swim there quickly
[17:56] <magespawn> bit far
[17:56] <nuvolari> I think I prefer ze russians
[17:58] <magespawn> fish 1 is now making his own starcraft maps
[17:58] <nuvolari> wait, what did I miss? fish 1?
[17:58] <magespawn> kid
[17:59] <nuvolari> ooh :P
[18:00] <superfly> magespawn: sorta, what's up?
[18:02] <magespawn> when you use the Go Launcher Ex did remove the HTC Sense?
[18:04] <superfly> magespawn: I don't have an HTC. but as far as I know, it replaces it, but it shouldn't remove it completely
[18:05] <magespawn> ohh you using it on a sumsung then?
[18:05] <superfly> no, on a Kindle
[18:06] <magespawn> no it does not, when using the home button from a program i get a choice of which one to use
[18:06] <magespawn> hah
[18:07] <superfly> magespawn: yes, and I was given the option of making one of the the default action
[18:08] <magespawn> ahh I did not do that, will rectify that shortly
[18:10] <magespawn> ahh ty if i used the choice without defaulting it was taking a long while to load
[19:17] <magespawn> night all
[19:35] <Kilos> night magespawn and others