[00:00] <histo> matts45acp: did you do the one I posted at 19:58  ?
[00:00] <lidar> Goron: its a shell command
[00:00] <tarvid> it finds no useable interfaces on my desktop
[00:01] <Goron> lidar: Yes, but what did it do..?
[00:01] <histo> tarvid: what kind of network cards do you have?
[00:02] <vm> Goron: so there are 3 ways. but add a swapfile or add more swap partitions need to install grub or change MBR?
[00:02] <matts45acp> histo, yes and just put in password
[00:02] <tarvid> it worked a couple of days ago
[00:02] <histo> matts45acp: okay now chmod ugo+wrx /home/myname/share
[00:02] <tarvid> on  my laptop with lxde and have no problems without it
[00:02] <dr_willis> adding a swap file or new swap parittion, wont  affect grub
[00:03] <Goron> vm: Gparted sounds the easiest way but you may learn more about your system doing other things.
[00:03] <Lunar_Lander> good evening
[00:04] <Lunar_Lander> I got the OpenJDK thing and yesterday one of my friends came up with a security entry on the Oracle page about a Java exploit and today he told me that it is also applicable to OpenJDK
[00:04] <Lunar_Lander> what shall I do now?
[00:04] <wmarone__> is anyone else playing around with ubuntu on a tablet?
[00:04] <matts45acp> histo, ok now
[00:04] <histo> matts45acp: after that sudo exportfs -ra && sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[00:04] <matts45acp> histo, ok now what
[00:05] <histo> matts45acp: now on your client install nfs-common
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: have you tried in #java too?
[00:09] <graingert> Lunar_Lamp: wait for the update
[00:10] <DrGrov> Hi everyone. Got a Lucid Medibuntu problem with the signature. Should I paste here the output or use pastebin?
[00:10] <graingert> Lunar_Lamp: security updates are usually very quick with ubuntu
[00:10] <minix2004> Aah histo: You can learn how to edit a file where?
[00:11] <histo> minix2004: http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/reu/nano.html  or you can man nano
[00:11] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, not yet
[00:11] <matts45acp> histo, ok now what
[00:11] <histo> minix2004: that's one of the many editors
[00:11] <DrGrov> It says the following: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 2EBC26B60C5A2783 Medibuntu Packaging Team <admin@lists.medibuntu.org>
[00:12] <histo> matts45acp: now on the client you need to mkdir some/folder/name  where you want the share mounted
[00:12] <bazhang> !gpgerr | DrGrov
[00:12] <matts45acp> histo, ok how
[00:13] <histo> matts45acp: just like you did before on the client mkdir /home/myname/share
[00:13] <minix2004> histo: I use gedit and vim. I talk about learning edit environment varialbles, drivers, hardware datas etc.
[00:13] <histo> matts45acp: then sudo mount 10.0.0.5:/home/myname/share /folder/you/just/made
[00:14] <minix2004> such stuff.
[00:14] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, great news http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/linux_mac_trojan/
[00:14] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[00:14] <DrGrov> bazhang: Checking now if it does work and not harrassing me from System Update...
[00:14] <minix2004> what, where and how.
[00:15] <matts45acp> histo, sayd connot create
[00:15] <DrGrov> bazhang: Unfortunately it did not solve it :/
[00:15] <minix2004> nano the pico clone I know
[00:16] <bazhang> DrGrov, what package do you need from there
[00:16] <DrGrov> bazhang: I want the irritating error message to just go away.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: pico wasn't releaqsed under a free software license
[00:17] <histo> matts45acp: try making a directory in your home folder    on the client:  mkdir ~/remote
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: used to be called tip (this ins't pico)
[00:17] <histo> matts45acp: what is your username on the client machine?
[00:17] <bazhang> DrGrov, please answer my question: what package do you need from there
[00:17] <DrGrov> Gets frustrating after a while to see an error message pop up every time I do either a reload on Synaptic or Update Manager
[00:17] <DrGrov> bazhang: As I said, I do not need any package from Medibuntu. I have the packages that I need but I like to get rid of that error message.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: if you run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:17] <bazhang> DrGrov, so remove the repo
[00:18] <matts45acp> histo, matts45acp
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: can you pastebin the output please
[00:18] <histo> matts45acp: okay did you mkdir ~/remote   ?
[00:18] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Will do.
[00:18] <matts45acp> histo, yea
[00:18] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, are people aware of that trojan?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: not til now
[00:18] <histo> matts45acp: sudo mount 10.0.0.5:/home/myname/share /home/matts45acp/remote
[00:19] <argylelabcoat> seriously, malware that creates a dir in your home with a name in all caps? this can't be for real
[00:19] <matts45acp> histo, said access denied by server when mounting
[00:21] <lidar> Lunar_Lander: looks like it needs to be installed manually .. not much of if even a threat at all
[00:21] <minix2004> histo: I want to learn such stuff like this: (what, why, where,  how) => matts45acp: after that sudo exportfs -ra && sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[00:22] <Lunar_Lander> lidar, yeah and the IP it connects to is known according to this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/181930/what-to-do-regarding-backdoor-wirenet-1
[00:22] <lidar> Lunar_Lander: i think tricking someone into setting up vnc would be more effective
[00:23] <matts45acp> histo, said access denied by server when mounting
[00:23] <minix2004> Basics about Ubuntu OS Environment for interested people . . .
[00:23] <Lunar_Lander> VNC?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> !manual | minix2004
[00:24] <lidar> !vnc
[00:24] <h22turbo> !FreeNX
[00:24] <Lunar_Lander> lidar, OK thanks
[00:25] <Lunar_Lander> also is it right that like it creates that WIFIADAPT folder?
[00:25] <histo> matts45acp: did you chmod the folder on the server
[00:26] <histo> matts45acp: on the server you need to give permisions to anyone so chmod ugo+wrx /home/myname/share
[00:27] <Lunar_Lander> lidar, what shall I do now?
[00:27] <lidar> Lunar_Lander: do about ?
[00:27] <Lunar_Lander> I recently installed octave and SCILAB using software-center
[00:28] <Lunar_Lander> I install all my things over the softwarecenter
[00:28] <Lunar_Lander> yeah Wirenet-1
[00:28] <matts45acp> histo, i typed in server again
[00:28] <Lunar_Lander> can you prevent it happening or so
[00:28] <matts45acp> histo, and still saying denied on this computer
[00:29] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Have some issues with pastebin.ca. Taking an awful long time to post the output from sudo apt-get update :(
[00:30] <minix2004> Sorry about my questions. I want to know what you talk about in this channel. You are so much advanced . . .
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: try http://pastie.org
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> minix2004: support, thats the process of the channel
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> purpose*
[00:31] <Lunar_Lander> lidar, my concern always was to try and keep the PC safe
[00:31] <Lunar_Lander> that is why I left Windows in the end of 2011
[00:32] <conradin> does anyone know how to set up a video chat server in ubuntu? Im having a hard time
[00:32] <lidar> Lunar_Lander: "alerts" like that are mostly bs the ones you need to worry about are vulnerabiltys that allow remote access for instance a sshd exploit
[00:32] <Lunar_Lander> ok
[00:32] <Lunar_Lander> can that happen behind a router btw?
[00:32] <Lunar_Lander> I thought a router blocks people from getting into a PC behind it
[00:32] <lidar> Lunar_Lander: if you run services and forward ports for external access it can
[00:33] <conradin> lolz your router
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: it helps, its not infallable
[00:33] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[00:33] <Lunar_Lander> like the router is like taken out of the box and set up
[00:33] <Lunar_Lander> with passwords and stuff set of course
[00:33] <Lunar_Lander> but we never did an IP block or so
[00:33] <conradin> admin password
[00:33] <Lunar_Lander> that is set
[00:33] <Lunar_Lander> and the WLAN key too
[00:33] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Ok, got it. http://pastie.org/4648388
[00:34] <lidar> Lunar_Lander: most "home" routers run some form linux if there is a kernel exploit .. your router could be swiid cheese
[00:34] <lidar> err swiss
[00:34] <Lunar_Lander> damn
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[00:35] <WeThePeople> lunar_lander, i think skype does that
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: or, sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring
[00:36] <Lunar_Lander> what does skype do?
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: seriously?
[00:36] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: The second command says that Medibuntu is already the newest version.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: you've not heard of skype?
[00:37] <Lunar_Lander> I know skype
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: did the first command import the key?
[00:37] <Lunar_Lander> but I don't get the reference?
[00:37] <Lunar_Lander> do you mean the way the skype network is constructed?
[00:37] <bazhang> !ot | Lunar_Lander
[00:37] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I have the key already from before. I tested that command a bit earlier but will do it again.
[00:37] <WeThePeople> conradin, skype
[00:37] <WeThePeople> lunar_lander, srry wrong nick
[00:38] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Said that no change occured.
[00:38] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Should I try to remove the Medibuntu repositories and do that again?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: the first command imports it manually, i just imported the key myself and it was the medibuntu one
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: worth a try
[00:39] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Okay, I will remove the Medibuntu repositories and add them again.
[00:40] <Lunar_Lander> say
[00:40] <Lunar_Lander> what does rtkit mean?
[00:40] <Lunar_Lander> !rtkit
[00:40] <bazhang> Lunar_Lander, rootkit
[00:40] <Lunar_Lander> not seriously?
[00:40] <bazhang> Lunar_Lander, did you have any actual ubuntu support questions?
[00:41] <_kernelklink_> what do you guys think about ducky shine or das ultimate keyboards?
[00:41] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I will copy that long command from the Medibuntu webpage and hope for the best.
[00:41] <lidar> !help > Lunar_Lander
[00:42] <bazhang> _kernelklink_, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:42] <Lunar_Lander> ok lidar
[00:42] <wmarone__> man
[00:42] <lidar> !ot | Lunar_Lander
[00:42] <wmarone__> ath9k driver in linux 3.0 and better hates my router
[00:43] <Lunar_Lander> OK my question is
[00:43] <Lunar_Lander> What exactly does ps aux # do?
[00:44] <dr_willis> shows all the processes based on the aux flag/options
[00:44] <Lunar_Lander> OK thanks
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> wmarone__: have you reported a bug?
[00:44] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Yay! It works now when I remove the Medibuntu repositories first and got the long command from Medibuntu.org :) Thanks for the help :)
[00:44] <wmarone__> no, I really should
[00:45] <wmarone__> but it's probably unique to the combination of that plus my router running openwrt
[00:45] <zachoooo> Hey, I just did a clean install of Ubuntu version 12.04.1 from a disc and whenever I try and start from the hard drive I installed to I get this weird graphic glitch. I can't see anything properly, however when I move my mouse it changes. Does anyone know about this/know how to fix it?
[00:45] <wmarone__> same problem on my macbook and my W500
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> wmarone__: maybe its the openwrt
[00:46] <wmarone__> I don't doubt it
[00:46] <wmarone__> but it's specifically something in the linux 3.0+ ath9k driver that causes it to tank
[00:46] <wmarone__> cause other wifi devices don't cause problems, and they work fine in windows :/
[00:50] <zachoooo> Does anybody know?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> wmarone__: did you upgrade drom one release to another?
[00:50] <miks> zachoooo what happens if you hit the ESC key when booting up? I'm just wondering if it will then show you the text so you can see what it is getting hung up on.
[00:50] <wmarone__> no, clean install
[00:50] <zachoooo> If I hit esc it brings me to my bios...
[00:51] <zachoooo> Wait nevermind thats delete
[00:51] <zachoooo> Let me try
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> wmarone__: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:51] <wmarone__> precise
[00:51] <wmarone__> it's the latest
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> wmarone__: well, latest stable ;)
[00:51] <wmarone__> true
[00:51] <Cong> what format subtitles play on totem?
[00:51] <zachoooo> miks, no it wont let me hit escape
[00:52] <wmarone__> I'll probably roll it forward when 12.10 drops
[00:52] <zachoooo> I tried it and I got the same weird screen tear
[00:52] <Cong> I got .ass files.
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Cong: i believe its the same in all players
[00:52] <zachoooo> I cant see anything :/
[00:52] <miks> zachoooo k. you might need to pass a kernel boot parameter or something like nomodeset possibly to get into ubuntu and then try installing all the updates
[00:52] <Cong> ActionParsnip, I can't them to show.
[00:53] <zachoooo> I used nomodeset when I installed ubuntu
[00:53] <zachoooo> If I didnt it would just bring me to a black screen
[00:53] <zachoooo> with a flashing underscore in the top corner
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Cong: http://www.opensubtitles.org/en   download the srt file there
[00:53] <miks> zachoooo so when you select the kernel to boot from GRUB and press e to look at the line in the config, does it show nomodeset ?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Cong: vlc may be able to use it
[00:53] <zachoooo> I cant even view the grub
[00:54] <nv> yeah vlc supports .ass
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> zachoooo: hold shift at boot
[00:54] <Cong> ActionParsnip, what about the .ass files?
[00:54] <zachoooo> I start it up and it flashes a purple screen and then the graphics get really screwed up
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Cong: no idea, not heard of it. Have you tried vlc?
[00:54] <miks> oh i misunderstood... that is odd
[00:54] <nv> yes VLC supports .ass files
[00:54] <Cong> ActionParsnip, vlc is evil.
[00:55] <zachoooo> ActionParsnip just tried holding shift at startup
[00:55] <zachoooo> didnt work
[00:55] <zachoooo> Same graphics glitch
[00:55] <nv> you can try windows media player. that supports .ass   :P
[00:55] <Cong> windows media player doesn't you need codec packs like cccp
[00:55] <dr_willis> got some .asf files.. cant say ive ever seen .ass file
[00:56] <nv> .ass is a subtitle file
[00:56] <Cong> .ass files have style in them
[00:56] <nv> external subtitles
[00:56] <nv> yeah
[00:56] <Cong> they look better too
[00:56] <dr_willis> I imagine mplayer supports them also.
[00:56] <miks> zachoooo sounds like a hardware issue to me....but i could be wrong... i just can't believe you can't even get to see GRUB...
[00:57] <zachoooo> how could it be a hardware issue?
[00:57] <zachoooo> Windows runs fine on my computer
[00:57] <nv> what did you use to make the image used to install?
[00:57] <nv> ....
[00:57] <zachoooo> I used my disc drive
[00:57] <nv> wow
[00:57] <Lunar_Lander> OK final question
[00:57] <ebs512> question, I have ubuntu 12.04 and pidgin messenger for google talk, all of the plugins I have tried for playing the current song dont work, any suggestions?
[00:57] <Lunar_Lander> in my auth.log, what does"[system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.55" (uid=1000 pid=1682 comm="/usr/lib/indicator-datetime/indicator-datetime-ser") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.14" (uid=0 pid=1145 comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")" mean?
[00:57] <cordoval> how to enable autocomplete for my users terminal prompt?
[00:57] <cordoval> root has autocomplete
[00:57] <cordoval> but not my user
[00:58] <nv> do you have the software sourcces installed?
[00:58] <nv> wrong window
[00:58] <cordoval> nv: ?
[00:58] <dr_willis> check their .bashrc/.profile cordoval  those by default enable bash completion.
[00:58] <Cong> so conclusion is totem only supports the simple .srt files?
[00:58] <conradin> Why do you say vlc is evil?
[00:58] <Mahmoud> hi -- can i use wubi to install ubuntu on windows, the same partition where wubi itself is running?
[00:59] <dr_willis> .bashrc:# enable programmable completion features (you don't need to enable
[00:59] <zachoooo> mahmoud wubi automatically installs it in the same partition
[00:59] <Mahmoud> zachoooo: neat
[00:59] <Cong> conradin, read the wiki at cccp.
[00:59] <zachoooo> I actually tried to use wubi
[00:59] <miks> zachoooo maybe download it again and when you burn it from windows check to verify it.... maybe it's a messed up download you used to install it or something... or try another distro just to see if that also has GRUB issues. like Fedora 17 for example
[00:59] <zachoooo> since I cant get it to install from disc
[00:59] <zachoooo> Ok miks thanks for the suggestion, time to reinstall windows...
[01:00] <nv> yeah i wrote that wiki  :P
[01:00] <nv> you can ignore it
[01:00] <Cong> lol
[01:00] <leaper> Um
[01:01] <leaper> Is this channel literally 24/7 active?
[01:01] <ebs512> any alternative to run photoshop in ubuntu other than wine, wine is very slow
[01:01] <miks> zachoooo sure .. hope it works out for you... it's tough without being in front of it
[01:01] <zachoooo> Yeah, its a weird issue. Hopefully making a new disc fixes it.
[01:01] <miks> definitely
[01:01] <Cong> http://cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=Media_Players#VLC_media_player_.28Bad.2FEvil.29_2
[01:01] <miks> maybe even try getting the alternate CD
[01:01] <miks> ISO
[01:01] <webguy024> how do I run a script that I am typing into the command line? trying out ruby, want to print "hello world" from the command line.
[01:02] <webguy024> > ruby > print "hello world" > [ how do I run this now]
[01:02] <DrGrov> Gotta ask, how do I find in Lucid if there has been any attempts to access my computer remotely? Like log files or such...
[01:02] <leaper> webguy:
[01:02] <Lunar_Lander> OK thanks again ActionParsnip and lidar and bazhang , now I can be more tranquil :) Good Night!
[01:02] <leaper> Irb?
[01:02] <webguy024> irb?
[01:03] <webguy024> sorry just getting into ubuntu and ruby
[01:03] <Cong> get the irb package it depends on ruby package
[01:03] <dr_willis> webguy024:  why not use a text editor and make a actual file for the script.
[01:04] <webguy024> dr_willis because I think I should know how to do it this way :)
[01:04] <miks> zachoooo http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[01:04] <dr_willis> webguy024:  time to hit up some ruby tutorials then.
[01:04] <Mahmoud> what is "installation size" supposed to mean in wubi.exe?
[01:04] <webguy024> general curiousity
[01:04] <zachoooo> Thanks miks
[01:04] <pepperjack> webguy024: create a text file.rb file with something like #!/usr/bin/env ruby  on first line then print "hello world" on the next line.  then do a chmod +x file.rb and then you have an executable ruby script
[01:04] <miks> zachoooo not sure if you have and AMD 64 or not or use this link http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso  ... sure np ;)
[01:04] <webguy024> pepperjack: I understand that portion, trying to see how to execute a command in the command line.
[01:05] <Cong> then do ruby source.rb
[01:05] <zachoooo> miks, yeah I have an AMD 8150 fx so second link?
[01:05] <miks> first
[01:05] <webguy024> Cong sorry I don't understand why do source.rb?
[01:05] <zachoooo> oh ok
[01:06] <webguy024> leaper: I am looking at IRB thanks
[01:06] <WeThePeople> will the dependencies for the newest version of xchat work in 10.04 lts if they are meant for 12.04 lts
[01:06] <leaper> IRB-> Interactive Ruby Bot
[01:06] <Cong> webguy024, what do you want to do?
[01:06] <leaper> Like an in-terminal IDLE for Ruby
[01:06] <leaper> And np
[01:08] <webguy024> leaper: I see that thanks. that is on point with what I am trying to do but Cong: I am trying to learn basic linux here..lol. I just want to run a script in the bash terminal
[01:08] <leaper> ruby FILE.rb
[01:08] <leaper> ?
[01:08] <webguy024> same scenerio with php
[01:09] <webguy024> sorry I am not explaining clearly... one second please.
[01:09] <leaper> K
[01:10] <leaper> Do you mean
[01:11] <leaper> Like run ruby code through a terminal
[01:11] <leaper> With one line of code?
[01:11] <webguy024> yes
[01:11] <pepperjack> webguy024: you might want more of an editor and interpreter in one... something like scite works as an editor and lets you execute your code from inside it
[01:11] <webguy024> that is what I mean :) same thing with php
[01:11] <Cong> bash can run shell scripts. put this "echo hello!" in a file. call it scr.bash, cd to that file. run it this ./scr.bash
[01:11] <leaper> like direct_ruby_code_exec puts "Hello world"
[01:11] <Mahmoud> neat. i'm using wubi.exe to install lubuntu
[01:12] <leaper> And would return "Hello world"
[01:12] <Thisguy_> Hello
[01:12] <dr_willis> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ruby_Programming/Hello_world
[01:12] <Thisguy_> I'm on a server which is going through a DDoS and I hate to say I have no idea how to audit TCP connections.
[01:12] <webguy024> thanks leaper.
[01:13] <webguy024> thanks dr_willis
[01:13] <Thisguy_> We're not noticeably slower, but I feel I should still act.
[01:13] <Cong> oh yeah, scripts like that need chmod +x scr.bash
[01:13] <dr_willis> googled for 'ruby hello world'
[01:13] <dr_willis> ;P
[01:13] <webguy024> i haven't made it that far yet dr_willis I am still trying to install it :)
[01:13] <Thisguy_> Does Ubuntu come with TCP netword monitoring?
[01:13] <leaper> Dr_willis
[01:13] <leaper> You program much?
[01:13] <Thisguy_> network*
[01:13] <dr_willis> ruby? its installed by default.
[01:13] <dr_willis> rarely need to code these days
[01:14] <leaper> Ah
[01:14] <Atlantic777> Thisguy_: try snort, it's great!
[01:14] <leaper> Well how about this
[01:14] <leaper> Ive been working on a Google irc bot
[01:14] <webguy024> wait, its installed by default? wtf am I doing then..lol
[01:14] <Thisguy_> Thanks, I'll go Google it
[01:14] <omps> i have a query, i have setup bind on my machine, and i have one interface which i have given one ip and a name. but when i ping to my domain name which is assigned to that ip, my system goes via internet to ping to that domainname
[01:14] <dr_willis> ruby has a lot of extras but i think the core ruby interperter is installed.
[01:14] <Atlantic777> Thisguy_: http://www.snort.org/
[01:14] <omps> any idea where i am wrong
[01:14] <leaper> .google [topic] returns the first 2 paragraphs from the first google search result of [topic]
[01:14] <Thisguy_> Already there, thanks though ;)
[01:15] <nv> snort for the win
[01:15] <Cong> webguy024, what version of ubuntu?
[01:15] <leaper> webguy: are you learning ruby?
[01:15] <webguy024> 12.04
[01:15] <Cong> ruby doesn't come included with 10.04
[01:15] <omps> can someone help me
[01:15] <Cong> which is what I have
[01:16] <Thisguy_> Is snort in Universe/mult/etc, or have a PPA? I manage via ssh
[01:16] <Cong> so you might have to install it first
[01:16] <Cong> webguy024, go to a terminal and type ruby --version
[01:16] <WeThePeople> thisguy, check out wireshark
[01:16] <omps> i have ubuntu 12.04
[01:17] <WeThePeople> omps, just ask
[01:17] <webguy024> ruby 1.9.3
[01:17] <pepperjack> thats one problem with ruby as a general scripting language.  you can bet on sh being installed on someones machine, perl too.  probably python if its a linux box but ruby... usually not
[01:17] <webguy024> i have already installed it and rvm, didn't know it was already installed.
[01:17] <Cong> webguy024, you're all set to program then.
[01:18] <webguy024> thanks Cong :)
[01:18] <hawkal> Using 12.04 with a BCM4312 adaptor b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-lpphy-installer I am able to see wireless networks but cannot connect to any (inc unsecure networks). I tried the proprietary STA drivers which don't even show the networks. Anyone know a fix?
[01:19] <WeThePeople> hawkal, i might have a script for ya, do you have a ethnet connection aval.
[01:19] <hawkal> yes
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Cong: the link I gave will allow you to download an srt for it
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Cong: vlc isn't evil, its just qt based :)
[01:20] <dr_willis> actually iset there a growing trend to start using QT more?  seems ive seen more and more apps using it lately
[01:20] <Cong> ActionParsnip, i'm reinstalling mplayer, I think you recommended it.
[01:20] <dr_willis> !info smplayer
[01:21] <omps> WeThePeople, i asked
[01:21] <omps> WeThePeople, no one replied :(
[01:22] <jp_1> having a problem with 10.04 and wireless not connecting where should i look?
[01:22] <WeThePeople> hawkal, connect to the eth0, i found the script, just let me look it over its quite long..ok
[01:22] <jp_1> i can see my ssid
[01:22] <Atlantic777> jp_1: what's the actual problem? Do you "see" a wireless interface?
[01:22] <WeThePeople> hawkal, i use broadcom to
[01:22] <WeThePeople> too*
[01:22] <Atlantic777> So you can't get IP address or what?
[01:23] <hawkal> WeThePeople,  Okay thank you
[01:23] <Atlantic777> jp_1: do you get connected to the network you want?
[01:23] <jp_1> no it wont seem to take an ip from the router
[01:23] <jp_1> when i try a static nothing works as well
[01:23] <jp_1> using a dlink dir-655
[01:24] <omps> I have configured one interface eth0 with ip 192.168.x.x, but when I am trying to ping to this IP I am being routed via internet. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and have also configured bind9, which is also taking time. Is it happening because of the forwarders I am using in the DNS.
[01:24] <WeThePeople> hawkal, let me know when you have trhe eth0 connected
[01:24] <WeThePeople> the*
[01:24] <Atlantic777> jp_1: can you reset the router?
[01:24] <hawkal> WeThePeople, I am connected now
[01:25] <WeThePeople> hawkal, ok..first uninstall b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[01:25] <jp_1> cant reset then everything else will go down have about 10 other devices on the router via wireless
[01:25] <WeThePeople> hawkal, the script will install these
[01:25] <WeThePeople> hawkal, use synaptic
[01:25] <glassresistor> ok having this weird thing happening
[01:26] <hawkal> WeThePeople, okay done that
[01:26] <Z3r0n0id> broke 12.04, installed gnome-pannel and deleted unity. now on start up it start and stops the and hangs on stoppping Mount network filesystem
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> jp_1: when you set the IP can you ping the router's internal IP?
[01:26] <omps> WeThePeople, can you please help?
[01:26] <Atlantic777> jp_1: so you aren't connected to the network even if you set static IP and address of DNS?
[01:26] <jp_1> no
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Z3r0n0id: why didn't you just leave unity installed?
[01:26] <Atlantic777> jp_1: that's bad. :D
[01:26] <glassresistor> i have a radeon card on 12.04 server(with desktop installed), went to open the admin catlyst control center and put in my password and it keeps saying incorrect
[01:27] <glassresistor> put it in six times
[01:27] <jp_1> thats what i thought
[01:27] <Z3r0n0id> becuase i didnt use it i used classic gnome
[01:27] <WeThePeople> hawkal, here is the script.. omps, give me a min
[01:27] <glassresistor> sudo with same copy pasted word works
[01:27] <WeThePeople> hawkal, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1180699/  >>copy and paste
[01:27] <Atlantic777> glassresistor: use gksudo for GUI apps.
[01:27] <jp_1> its a PCI dlink adapter im trying to use as well
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> Z3r0n0id: then just use the gnome-panel session at login
[01:27] <WeThePeople> hawkal, there is more let me know when its done
[01:27] <glassresistor> not a complete newb, assuming something besides wrong pass is wrong
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> jp_1: what chip does it use?
[01:28] <WeThePeople> hawkal, broadcom is a pain
[01:28] <Z3r0n0id> ActionParsnip: cant get that far, it hangs on boot. can not even get to cli
[01:28] <hawkal> WeThePeople, Thank you it sure is a pain
[01:28] <jp_1> not too sure it did work on a d510mo with 10.04 on it
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Z3r0n0id: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode and select root. You can now do stuff in CLI
[01:28] <glassresistor> Atlantic777: whats the catalyst command? gksudo is working with same password tough
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Z3r0n0id: if you go for a reinstall, install Xubuntu and Unity won't be installed. Its also very similar to Gnome2
[01:29] <Z3r0n0id> ActionParsnip: thanks, i like gnome 2 over xubuntu
[01:29] <Atlantic777> glassresistor: gksudo is for running GUI apps as root. When you run GUI apps with sudo you can brake same permissions and stuff.
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> jp_1: run:  sudo lshw -C network     it will tell you the chip which is all you need to know, the fact it is a 'dlink' is irrelevant
[01:29] <WeThePeople> omps, i read your inquery and idk..
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Z3r0n0id: you could install cinammon but its not supoprted here. The xfce desktop is very similar to gnome2 and is also coded in GTK so your gnome apps will run without a hitch
[01:30] <omps> WeThePeople, any suggestion?
[01:30] <glassresistor> Atlantic777: got it, idk why its not working from the start menu
[01:30] <jp_1> Atheros
[01:31] <Atlantic777> glassresistor: idk, I use open source drivers.
[01:31] <pepperjack> Z3r0n0id: xfce by default looks a little... vanilla but you can pretty much make it look like gnome2 if you want and the file manager and other features are more robust than they used to be
[01:31] <share> "nvidia, fuck you"
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Z3r0n0id: you could even install xubuntu then install gnome-panel
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> share: plase don't
[01:32] <WeThePeople> omps, why wouldnt it use the net to ping??
[01:32] <share> just quoting linus torvalds
[01:32] <Z3r0n0id> ActionParsnip: can i not just reinstall gnome-panel form root cli?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> share: this isn't the channel to do that in
[01:32] <WeThePeople> hawkal, is the script done yet?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Z3r0n0id: worth a try
[01:33] <Z3r0n0id> ActionParsnip: il let you know how it gose
[01:34] <jp_1> ActionParsnip: Atheros
[01:34] <miks> lol @ share's comment
[01:35] <omps> WeThePeople, i didn't get you, it shouldn't be using my ISP GW, or should it be, I see 192.168.x.x is Class C. and i am pinging it from the same machine
[01:35] <WeThePeople> omps, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[01:36] <hawkal> WeThePeople, yes although I'm not seeing any networks do I need to reboot?
[01:36] <WeThePeople> omps, #networking could help a bunch
[01:36] <Z3r0n0id> I have no network, service networking start does nothing.
[01:36] <WeThePeople> hawkal, ok now 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> jp_1: try:  lspci | grep -i athe      what is output?
[01:37] <hawkal> WeThePeople, okay done that
[01:38] <WeThePeople> hawkal, now 'sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer'
[01:38] <WeThePeople> hawkal, and reboot
[01:38] <jp_1> ActionParsnip: AR922X Wireless Network Adapter rev 01
[01:38] <Atlantic777> Any easy to use inboud network shapper?
[01:38] <WeThePeople> hawkal, let me know how it goes
[01:39] <hawkal> WeThePeople, Okay I will. Thank you
[01:39] <WeThePeople> atlantic, i dont know about ease of use but pyshaper is a network shaper
[01:40] <Atlantic777> WeThePeople: I'll try it.
[01:45] <omps> WeThePeople, thanks
[01:45] <WeThePeople> omps, np
[01:48] <Braber01> question? how can I tell the website that I want to install on a USB after I told it I wanted to install that on a CD?~!
[01:49] <leaper> The back button
[01:50] <WeThePeople> braber01, this channel is for ubuntu related issues
[01:53] <hawkal> WeThePeople, Hi Thank you it's working now but so you know for some reason it didn't work after reboot. I shutdown then powered on and it worked.
[01:54] <WeThePeople> hawkal, so you are on wireless now?
[01:54] <hawkal> WeThePeople, Yes I am
[01:54] <zachoooo> miks
[01:55] <zachoooo> You fixed everything I love you.
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> jp_1: ok then search for guides using that chip to find guides
[01:55] <WeThePeople> hawkal, i was wondering if it woild work.. i havent used it ina long time
[01:55] <WeThePeople> would*
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> brad[]: tell what website?
[01:56] <WeThePeople> hawkal, if i understand correctly you reboot twice?
[01:56] <WeThePeople> to get it to work
[01:57] <hawkal> WeThePeople, I rebooted once (didn't work) so I powered off and powered on
[01:57] <hawkal> and it worked
[01:58] <hawkal> WeThePeople reboot twice may have worked as well.
[01:58] <WeThePeople> hawkal, ahh ok
[01:59] <ryao> What package contains /usr/share/qemu/pxe-i82559er.bin?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> !find pxe-i82559er.bin
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> ryao: looks liek you are searching the web, its not part of a package
[02:01] <ryao> ActionParsnip: The web says qemu-kvm-extras.
[02:01] <WeThePeople> its a boot server
[02:01] <WeThePeople> for vm, maybe
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> !info qemu-kvm-extras
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> ryao: worth a shot, http://packages.ubuntu.com    can tell you the files in any package
[02:02] <ryao> Hmm... the changelog says that this was removed...
[02:08] <Troy^> could there be an issue where my onboard ethernet wasn't installed correctly when i installed ubuntu-server doesn't seem to be getting my max speed
[02:09] <MrEmerald> any support type people around?
[02:09] <Troy^> is there any way to perform a speedtest from the command line
[02:10] <WeThePeople> mremerald, just ask
[02:10] <usr13> Troy^: Just download a file from anoter PC on your network.  Use wget or....
[02:10] <MrEmerald> ok
[02:11] <zachoooo> miks
[02:11] <MrEmerald> I have tried using usb to run ubuntu(my first time even using it) and it booted up to where I can select to run from usb, then loads the system files and then just goes to a black screen
[02:12] <MrEmerald> my question is, is there a way around this without outright installing it onto my system?
[02:12] <MrEmerald> I don't want to partition my HD and I have no other HD's
[02:12] <WeThePeople> mremerald, a live cd
[02:12] <zachoooo> I tried installing linux from a disc... and now its just a black screen
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> MrEmerald, At the choice of try or install check the memory gui hit f6 and choose nomodeset
[02:12] <Braber01> I think there is, I think Nixie-Pixel posted a Youtube video about that.
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> MrEmerald, then boot in, if you install be sure to be plugged in getting the net and choose to download on install as well.
[02:13] <zachoooo> Everyone I just installed ubuntu using this iso: http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso and when I start the computer from my ssd, it goes straight to a black screen with a flashing underscore
[02:13] <MrEmerald> WeThePeople: I don't have any RW discs, and it keeps asking for those, I have non RW ones but they won't read
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | zachoooo follow this link
[02:14] <WeThePeople> mremerald, do you know about the boot device selection?
[02:14] <WeThePeople> in bios
[02:15] <MrEmerald> wilee-nilee: is there a way I can just constantly run it off of my flash drive after doing that?
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> MrEmerald, I'm not up on having nomodeset run on a live cd past the f6 choice probably, if you have a persistent file as well I suspect.
[02:18] <jimi_> is pam-auth-update enough to stop ldap logins? I have pam configured to check for local user and ldap user ... but the problem is i am alsawys prompted for local pass and ldap pass for all users... i know longer want to check against ldap
[02:19] <MrEmerald> wilee-nilee: is there a way I can just constantly run it off of my flash drive after doing that?
[02:19] <MrEmerald> just a repost, I don't know if it got to the channel before I DC'd
[02:20] <dez82> has anybody here installed SavageXR on ubuntu 12.04?
[02:20] <WeThePeople> mremerald, have you tried ##linux ?
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> MrEmerald, Have you made the usb with a persistent setting?
[02:21] <dez82> has anybody here installed heroes of newerth on ubuntu 12.04?
[02:21] <MrEmerald> I don't think so, by persistent setting what do you mean?
[02:21] <MrEmerald> I can redo it again easily :/
[02:21] <inf3kt3d> anyone else having connection issues on irc tonight?
[02:21] <pH1rmw4r3> no
[02:22] <pH1rmw4r3> u?
[02:22] <WeThePeople> no
[02:22] <inf3kt3d> wierd. yah, just tonight tho.
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> MrEmerald, With some usb loaders you can add a file that is called persistent to save what you did on the usb like downloads...etc.
[02:22] <nv> what did you use to create the USB?
[02:22] <pH1rmw4r3> probably your isp?
[02:23] <pH1rmw4r3> whats the latest buntu
[02:23] <MrEmerald> that universal USB tool
[02:23] <WeThePeople> quantal
[02:23] <pH1rmw4r3> how is it?
[02:23] <WeThePeople> idk
[02:23] <WeThePeople> im on lucid
[02:23] <WeThePeople> :)
[02:23] <xangua> pH1rmw4r3: WeThePeople latest stable is 12.04, you can find it on ubuntu.com
[02:24] <xangua> a.k.a. precise pangolin
[02:24] <inf3kt3d> probably isp, yes. entire network was going wonky.
[02:24] <nv> Universal USB Installer? the most current one? should have worked.   I prefer Linux Live USB Creator. here i have a lot of computers who run from USB let me PM you
[02:24] <pH1rmw4r3> known issues?
[02:24] <WeThePeople> it not lucid :)
[02:24] <MrEmerald> nv: send me the link to the usb creator?
[02:26] <pH1rmw4r3> xangua, is there a newer version? perhaps a Beta
[02:26] <xangua> !12.10 | pH1rmw4r3
[02:29] <pH1rmw4r3> 12.10 dose it still have that unity junk, and the "launcher" bar
[02:30] <alberto> My flashplugin doesn't work in firefox 15.0 in ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric). Anyone knows how to solve this issue?
[02:30] <histo> alberto: how'd you install the plugin and have you tried going to about:plugins   in your browser url to see what version it sees?
[02:30] <c_smith> Hi, I'm trying to use the text-based installer (as that's currently the only way to get an LVM+LUKS setup) and all I see on any part of it are white lines (I don't have this issue with a graphical installer) I have pinned the issue to the intel/ATI muxless setup this laptop has, is there any way I can fix this?
[02:31] <histo> c_smith: I think there's a kernel command you might try passing i've heard mentioned on here something nomodeset
[02:31] <pH1rmw4r3> get a new laptop?
[02:32] <c_smith> histo, nomodeset, what would I do to get to the part where I enter it? (if memory serves, isn't it a f# key?)
[02:32] <yeats> !nomodeset | c_smith
[02:33] <Thisguy_> What are the main benefits of Ubuntu over Arch?
[02:33] <Thisguy_> Besides install
[02:33] <pH1rmw4r3> Thisguy_ the package management is superb
[02:34] <Thisguy_> Better than pacman?
[02:34] <pH1rmw4r3> yeah
[02:34] <c_smith> Thisguy_, apt, Ubuntu is more stable when compared to arch, more signed packages
[02:34] <Thisguy_> How so, pH1r?
[02:35] <zachoooo> Can someone help me? I am trying to set nomodeset boot option on my new ubuntu installation, but holding shift on this black screen is doing nothing
[02:35] <pH1rmw4r3> in my opinion yes, apt-get is pretty awesome, its what keeps me thetherd to ubuntu
[02:35] <c_smith> Thisguy_, arch has almost few signed packages when compared to Ubuntu, Ubuntu requires all packages to be signed.
[02:35] <pH1rmw4r3> the nomoset is above caps lock
[02:35] <Thisguy_> Hmm
[02:36] <Thisguy_> Anything else?
[02:36] <Thisguy_> Major?
[02:36] <zachoooo> pH1rmww4r3 you mean tab?
[02:36] <alberto> histo, from about:plugins appears Shockwave Flash ( libflashplayer.so, Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202); this version is correct?
[02:36] <pH1rmw4r3> ubuntu can still install unsigned .deb
[02:37] <Thisguy_> Talking to me?
[02:37] <xangua> !ot | Thisguy_ pH1rmw4r3
[02:37] <pH1rmw4r3> alberto, are you using chrome / chromium?
[02:37] <Thisguy_> ...?
[02:37] <pH1rmw4r3> ...?
[02:37] <ubun> Error :input/output error ext2 free look up ntfs can't found error code 21 ; Distro : UBuntu 12.04 persistence ive usb 3 bit
[02:38] <alberto> pH1rmw4r3, no. firefox
[02:38] <c_smith> pH1rmw4r3, thanks. :)
[02:38] <zachoooo> how do you view the grub boot menu! Shift isnt working
[02:38] <Thisguy_> Whatever. I help run a Minecraft server, which runs of Ubuntu 12.04 Precise. Would you recommend trying 12.11, or is it to early?
[02:38] <Thisguy_> off*
[02:38] <WeThePeople> zachoooo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[02:38] <Thisguy_> too*
[02:38] <pH1rmw4r3> google chrome , not chromium has this thing where the flash is always updated/ configured corectly
[02:39] <histo> alberto: yes
[02:39] <histo> zachoooo: hold down shift key after your bios posts
[02:39] <devslash> is df -ch /var/www/myfolder | grep total the correct way to get the total size of a directory ?
[02:39] <pH1rmw4r3> alberto, id look into this https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/?hl=en&brand=CHMI
[02:39] <Thisguy_> Meh, nvm
[02:39] <Thisguy_> Thanks for the help
[02:39] <Thisguy_> Bye now
[02:39] <zachoooo> I already looked at that thread and no longer how long I hold down shift for its just a black screen with a flashing underscore
[02:40] <pH1rmw4r3> c_smith, no prob
[02:40] <pH1rmw4r3> later guy
[02:41] <histo> zachoooo: has the system ever booted?
[02:41] <zachoooo> It booted on windows perfectly, never gotten it to boot with ubuntu
[02:41] <histo> zachoooo: can you boot from the livecd?
[02:42] <zachoooo> I could try again...
[02:42] <WeThePeople> zachoooo, can you type at all?
[02:42] <zachoooo> No
[02:42] <histo> zachoooo: on the livecd's main menu you can press F6 for other options and select nomodeset
[02:42] <histo> zachoooo: I suspect somehting went wrong with grub during your install
[02:42] <WeThePeople> zachoooo, what Windows Ver. ?
[02:42] <zachoooo> Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
[02:43] <alberto> pH1rmw4r3, so should i install google chrome to solve the problem?
[02:43] <WeThePeople> zachoooo, are you installing a 64bit ubuntu?
[02:43] <h22turbo> i install ubuntu 12.04 minimal iso, then installed gdm and gnome core. when i boot my pc up, all i see is BIOS screen, then screen goes black, monitor "goes to sleep", then monitor comes on with GDM and I can login. Anybody know whats up? How can I fix this?
[02:43] <alberto> pH1rmw4r3, instead of using firefox ...
[02:43] <zachoooo> Yeah I got it form here: http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[02:43] <devslash> I've got a weird problem. I copied 134GB of files from my server which is formatted as ext4 to an external hard drive (also formatted as ext4). After the copy finished, i did du -ch /path/to/server/folder and du -ch /mnt/usb/newfolder and both report 134GB. when i do df -H /dev/sdb1 which is my external drive it shows 151GB in use. I have no other files on the drive. why is there a 17GB difference
[02:44] <zachoooo> Ok I booted from my disc and enabled the option nomodeset
[02:44] <zachoooo> nbut now what do I do to keep that option enabled?
[02:45] <devslash> I just realized one thing i did wrong. i did df -H instead of df -h. now it shows 141GB used. thats still a full 7GB difference
[02:45] <jagginess> zachoooo, does that fix anything, first of all?
[02:45] <pH1rmw4r3> alberto, yeah that's exactly what im saying
[02:45] <zachoooo> Well it brought me to the install screen
[02:45] <zachoooo> It said Install ubuntu, memory check, etc
[02:45] <jagginess> zachoooo, well its the installer, so it doesnt matter.. see if the installed boots
[02:46] <jagginess> zachoooo, you can edit the bootline hitting 'e' if you have to with grub
[02:46] <zachoooo> I cant even get to grub
[02:46] <jagginess> zachoooo, (after you do the install and do a reboot, the first time the grub menu shows, you're able to dynamically add an option)
[02:47] <zachoooo> It doesnt show the grub though, all it is is a black screen with a flashing underscore
[02:47] <jagginess> zachoooo, did you do an install, y/n ?
[02:47] <zachoooo> Yes I already installed ubuntu
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> zachoooo, If ubuntu is the only install tap the shift at powering on to show the grub menu
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> or hold it down,
[02:48] <zachoooo> wilee-nilee that doesn't work. As soon as the motherboard finishes starting up all I can see is a black screen with a flashing underscore
[02:48] <histo> zachoooo: how did you burn it?
[02:49] <zachoooo> even after the install
[02:49] <zachoooo> I burn it from my disc drive
[02:49] <zachoooo> and I verified it
[02:49] <FloodBot1> zachoooo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:49] <WeThePeople> lol
[02:49] <histo> zachoooo: DO you have a full desktop cd ?
[02:49] <zachoooo> Im pretty sure its a full desktop cd.
[02:50] <jagginess> zachoooo, you said you can boot with nomodeset, so boot with the cd, and edit that file i told you.. so you can do update-grub2 (do the proper mounts)
[02:50] <jagginess> zachoooo, and do grub-install /dev/sda (if sda is the right one for you)
[02:50] <zachoooo> I cant get to the actual os though, I can only get to the main install screen
[02:51] <jagginess> !rescue
[02:51] <histo> zachoooo: the alternatecd is not a desktop livecd. You need to boot a live cd and do what jagginess says to give that a try. Although you should still be getting a grub menu. That's why I htink something went horribly wrong installing grub.
[02:51] <zachoooo> Ok, time to try again!
[02:51] <zachoooo> :/
[02:51] <pH1rmw4r3> zachoooo, i too had that problem, i ended up installing ubuntu 8.04 then just upgraded to teh one i wanted
[02:51] <jagginess> zachoooo, gpt?
[02:51] <zachoooo> gpt?
[02:51]  * jagginess wants to ask zachoooo if he's using gpt
[02:51] <zachoooo> I dont know what gpt is, so Im assuming no
[02:52] <jagginess> zachoooo, -> parted p<enter> , says "gpt" or "msdos" for the partition style ?
[02:52] <zachoooo> I dont remember how I partitioned it sorry. I think I did use full disc
[02:53] <jagginess> zachoooo, determine if its gpt, and i can tell you what to check..
[02:53] <pH1rmw4r3> zachoooo, are you useing older hardware?
[02:54] <zachoooo> Definitely not
[02:59] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | zachoooo
[03:00] <ev_> are unix shells private? is there a way to 'vnc'(for lack of a better term) what is happening, in real time, in a shell, via ssh for example?
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> histo: you can install grub from the alternate ISO
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> histo: the installer runs on tty1, you have the other TTYs to use, so CTRL+ALT+F2 will give you a prompt you can work with :)
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> ev_: ssh will connect you to an available TTY
[03:02] <ev_> ActionParsnip: i think i miss phrased my question. example: you ssh to my machine. there is no way to view your actions. correct?
[03:04] <Jordan_U> ev_: You can use screen to allow multiple people to connect to a single screen session.
[03:04] <pH1rmw4r3> !info OpenSSH ev_
[03:04] <pH1rmw4r3> !info OpenSSH
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> ev_: you can read the users ~/.bash_history file to see what they are running. This is usually read/writable only by the owner but sudo will circumvent that
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> !info openssh-server | pH1rmw4r3
[03:05] <ev_> Jordan_U: i use screen, wasnt aware of that capability. interesting.
[03:05] <Jordan_U> ev_: If you're trying to share a shell between multiple people for colaboration, screen should solve your problem completely. If you want to monitor other users without their consent, that's difficult to do.
[03:05] <ev_> Jordan_U: more curious of others viewing mine
[03:06] <ev_> ActionParsnip: thanks for that info. i will look into that, thanks.
[03:06] <pH1rmw4r3> !info openssh-client
[03:06] <ev_> Jordan_U: im getting the idea that screen should be the first thing executed most times
[03:06] <pH1rmw4r3> ev_, !info openssh-client
[03:07] <Jordan_U> ev_: As a philosophy, I'd recommend assuming that all actions that you perform on a server you don't own are being monitored. At the same time as an administrator of a server, I would assume that you have at least one user smart enough to get around any monitoring you have in place if you give them shell access.
[03:08] <jagginess> ev_, maybe you want to make a jailroot for your users if they dont really need it for anything special other than sharing files
[03:08] <ev_> Jordan_U: this is my own, erm, server ( im very noob, duh)
[03:10] <ev_> i just want to make sure my friends arnt trying anything funny, i will look into jail root which i hadent heard of, check the log file, and probably use screen full time.
[03:12] <ev_> and i realize that ssh is *secure* in the name ;)
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise clean install?
[03:13] <ev_> also i keep having to reset my router...
[03:13] <pH1rmw4r3> ssh isnt that secure, if you pcap the packets you *can* dencrypt
[03:13] <jagginess> ev_, i recently took a leap into webdav, it's actually has fair performance (only catch is for windows users, they have to use "netdrive" if they want to have less problems than m$ default)
[03:14] <ev_> pH1rmw4r3: pcap and packets ring bells, but i would bet that stuff is a few floors above my current level
[03:15] <ev_> jagginess: thanks, i have a few good things to look into now, just what i was looking for.
[03:15] <jagginess> ev_, the purpose of ssh is to run remote applications..
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> pH1rmw4r3: i agree with you alot of ssh boxes get exploited
[03:15] <pH1rmw4r3> well theres pepole that can hack ssh
[03:16] <mob_> i just joined, but let me add, why not just change the default port #?
[03:16] <mob_> when you setup your ssh server...
[03:16] <jagginess> ev_, sshd_config supports jailrooting sftp, but not a terminal.. however you can "lock" ssh users to not being able to use a terminal by using /usr/lib/sftp (i forget the sftp path-- but you can use this sftp path as the user's login and they never get a bash-like shell)
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> mob_:same thing if nmap finds your open port..
[03:16] <ev_> i have a ddns that i connect through sometimes, is that any less or more secure
[03:17] <nv> checked for rogue servers? done a network vulnerability scan?
[03:17] <ev_> mob_: did that first thing
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> lets stick to ubuntu topic guys
[03:17] <mob_> lotuspsychje: that's true. i guess i just hope no one is scanning me, or the ids blocks the upper port # scan when it detects it on the lower ports? i donno, i just signed on here for the first time 1 minute ago :)
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> what else can one use for ssh security?
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> on ubuntu
[03:18] <mob_> sudo ?
[03:19] <ev_> lotuspsychje: thats fair, my bad for derailing. suggestion for propper channel?
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> !ot | ev_
[03:20] <ev_> thanks. I got enough info for tonight. if i need more i will goto ot.
[03:28] <williamherry> I want' report a bug of fcitx on ubuntu 12.04, where should I start?
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> !bug | williamherry
[03:30] <williamherry> lotuspsychje, thanks
[03:32] <b0at> exit
[03:33] <zachoooo> Ugh just tried a fresh install and same graphics glitch :/
[03:34] <zachoooo> I cant even try ubuntu without installing
[03:34] <lidar> williamherry: lotuspsychje has worn that website out it may not work
[03:35] <pH1rmw4r3> lotuspsychje, yeah ive had ssh boxes get hacked, luckly they were not inportant
[03:35] <zachoooo> I need to take a video of this or something
[03:36] <zachoooo> At least I can see the grub now
[03:37] <lidar> !patience > omps
[03:37] <wbwbwbwbwb> I'm trying to use aircrack-ng any idea what process would be forcing it into channel -1... despite me specifying the channel I want...
[03:38] <wbwbwbwbwb> *system process
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> lidar: hi mate, someone suggested me a sudo service lightdm restart to get rid of the square mouse but no luck
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> lidar:what else can we try
[03:41] <lidar> lotuspsychje: is it red x now ?
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> lidar: red?
[03:42] <AnDsO> how can i add check_snmp_disk to command.cfg in nagios its confusing and not working for me help me out with some links
[03:43] <lidar> the square mouse is it doing it now ?
[03:43] <lidar> AnDsO: welcome back :)
[03:43] <AnDsO> ty
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> lidar: on my desktop box it will when i boot yes
[03:44] <h22turbo> wbwbwbwbwb: may want to check another channel... backtrack or metasploit or similar
[03:44] <lidar> lotuspsychje: boot it up lets do team viewer thing
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> lidar:ok give me 5 mate i go upstairs
[03:53] <office_> hello
[03:53] <barf> I'm trying to cut apart a video file but it ends up out of sync http://sprunge.us/jQdT
[03:53] <zachoooo> Hey I installed ubuntu from my flash drive and I managed to turn on nomodeset when I boot from my usb flash drive
[03:54] <zachoooo> but Im only running the os from the flash drive I think, so how do I change nomodeset on my ssd when I cant view the grub when I boot from it?
[03:55] <barf> what tools should I use to accomplish this ?  http://sprunge.us/jQdT
[03:55] <xyverz> why can't you view your grub config? you can't access /boot?
[03:55] <zachoooo> Wait I can nevermind
[03:55] <h22turbo> barf: have u tried OpenShot Video Editor?
[03:56] <h22turbo> barf: make sure u get the latest version from the PPA. the version on ubuntu repos crash a lot and not stable
[03:56] <Halfalife> Any idea why Ubuntu installation might hang at the wireless stage on my desktop every time I install?
[03:56] <xyverz> zachoooo: =)
[03:57] <Halfalife> I've tried the default, Xubuntu, and Lubuntu installers.
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife: on precise?
[03:57] <Halfalife> They all work perfectly, but just hang at the Wireless step, after I put in my password.
[03:57] <Halfalife> Yes.
[03:57] <zachoooo> It says its read only :(
[03:57] <Halfalife> I've waited ~4 hours, and nothing happens.
[03:57] <zachoooo> And Im not root :(
[03:57] <crizis> crappy wireless chipset?
[03:57] <Halfalife> None of my laptops have this issue.
[03:57] <Halfalife> Maybe...
[03:57] <crizis> disable it for installation
[03:57] <Halfalife> But I had this issue on my last two adapters.
[03:58] <h22turbo> Halfalife: sounds like u need different drivers/kernel modules for it
[03:58] <Halfalife> Alright.
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife: i had it twice too, and only be able to fix by retrying
[03:58] <barf> h22turbo can I use this from the command line ?
[03:58] <h22turbo> barf: negative
[03:58] <Halfalife> Thing is, it happens even if I choose not to connect to a network.
[03:58] <barf> damn
[03:58] <Halfalife> Well, time to pull out my card.
[03:58] <h22turbo> Halfalife: what kind is it?
[04:00] <xyverz> zachoooo: you sudo to root (sudo su -) then remount /boot rw.
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife: you could connect eth0 cable for once to install
[04:00] <zachoooo> I cant open my terminal though in "Try ubuntu without installing"
[04:00] <zachoooo> I already installed it, but im trying to find a way to set nomodeset
[04:00] <zachoooo> Since I cant find a way to access my grub
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> !grub2 | zachoooo
[04:01] <Halfalife> Alright, took out wifi adapter.
[04:01] <Halfalife> Trying again.
[04:01] <Halfalife> My router is on the other side of the house.
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> oh
[04:02] <barf> h22turbo can you recommend anything else ?
[04:02] <daolin> zachoooo:do you mean os boot from usb?
[04:02] <wbwbwbwbwb> Hi. I start aircrack-ng on channel 6 and I kill network manager and all processes it warns about before starting it... yet I still get stuck on channel -1... when running 'aireplay-ng -0 1 -a 00:19:5B:52:AD:F7 -c 00:1C:BF:90:5B:A3 mon0'
[04:02] <Halfalife> Are you using Backtrack?
[04:02] <h22turbo> barf: nope, ive never messed with that kind of stuff from cmd line
[04:02] <wbwbwbwbwb> ubuntu
[04:02] <Halfalife> I've had issues with running it from Ubuntu.
[04:03] <zachoooo> daolin I used "Try ubuntu before installing" even though I already had it installed. I was trying to access my grub config since I cant find a way to access the grub when I boot fromy my ssd
[04:03] <Halfalife> It should work in Backtrack.
[04:03] <wbwbwbwbwb> alright thanks
[04:03] <Halfalife> In Ubuntu, it doesn't seem to allow switching channels.
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> wbwbwbwbwb:maybe they have a channel on freenode, try !alis
[04:03] <wbwbwbwbwb> !alis
[04:03] <h22turbo> wbwbwbwbwb: try it in backtrack live, if it still doesnt work... then try something else lol
[04:03] <Halfalife> I don't think it'll work outside of Backtrack.
[04:04] <Halfalife> If you need to use those tools, just use BT.
[04:04] <wbwbwbwbwb> I wonder if backtrack will detect my netgear usb card
[04:04] <h22turbo> yea it will... i have it on my laptop running ubuntu 12.04
[04:04] <wbwbwbwbwb> okay thanks
[04:04] <h22turbo> sounds like a chipset/driver issue....
[04:04] <wbwbwbwbwb> it's a compatible chipset with aircrack
[04:04] <wbwbwbwbwb> i checked
[04:04] <h22turbo> it should change chans with no probs... its somehow locked on chan 1
[04:05] <ebs512> anyone have a working script for pidgin and rhythmbox for displaying now playing in status? all the ones I've come across dont work
[04:05] <pH1rmw4r3> aircrack-ng :) the good ol days..
[04:05] <Halfalife> I've tried it on Intel, Atheros, and Ralink adapters.
[04:05] <Halfalife> and it hasn't worked in Ubuntu for any of them, for me at least.
[04:05] <h22turbo> ebs512: u using xchat?
[04:05] <wbwbwbwbwb> gotcha thanks
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> lets keep ontopic guys
[04:05] <ebs512> yes h22turbo, but I use pidgin messenger for google talk
[04:06] <Halfalife> Well, technically Backtrack is Ubuntu.
[04:06] <h22turbo> true
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife: itns not supported here
[04:06] <daolin> zachoooo :I think you your first boot devise is usb,not ssd,you should set you bois.
[04:06] <pH1rmw4r3> you can boot with ssh?
[04:08] <KM0201> i dont' see how that would be possible pH1rmw4r3 ssh is off if a machine is off.
[04:09] <Halfalife> Maybe using Wake-on-LAN?
[04:09] <pH1rmw4r3> thats what i thought
[04:09] <Halfalife> Since the motherboard should always have power.
[04:09] <pH1rmw4r3> never could get wol to work
[04:09] <Halfalife> Same here.
[04:09] <Halfalife> Not sure my computers actually supported it, though.
[04:09] <pH1rmw4r3> its a hardware feature in most cases
[04:15] <zachoooo> Oh how wonderful now on my ssd error: no such device: UUID
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot in precise 12.04.1 clean installed (old ati card and fxglr)
[04:16] <zachoooo> How do you fix error no such device?
[04:16] <AnDsO> anyone know how to add snmp in nagios
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> zachoooo: did you change bios to ssd instead of ide
[04:17] <zachoooo> Yes I changed to my ssd
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> zachoooo: changed to ahci?
[04:18] <Halfalife> Installation still isn't working, after removing wifi adapter.
[04:18] <Halfalife> any other guesses?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife: also hangs?
[04:18] <zachoooo> lotus what do you mean?
[04:18] <Halfalife> Yep, still hangs at Wifi step.
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> zachoooo: there's a bios setting ahci you need to enable for ssd install
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife: cdrom or usb?
[04:19] <Halfalife> USB.
[04:19] <Halfalife> Should I try CD?
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife:created with ubuntu usb creator?
[04:19] <Halfalife> Unetbootin.
[04:19] <Halfalife> The same USB worked on my Thinkpad.
[04:19] <Halfalife> So I know it's not an issue with that.
[04:19] <zachoooo> Its already set
[04:20] <zachoooo> to AHCI
[04:20] <lee_> imageWriter from suse is a good choice
[04:20] <Halfalife> Well, thing is.
[04:20] <Halfalife> It worked with my laptop.
[04:20] <zachoooo> How do I fix my grub Dx
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife: its worth a try if you can by cdrom, or alternate install lowgraphics
[04:20] <Halfalife> Well, alternate install might not work.
[04:20] <Halfalife> As this is a dualboot.
[04:20] <Halfalife> And I don't want to accidentally overwrite Win7.
[04:20] <Halfalife> Does it automatically set up GRUB?
[04:20] <lee_> use easyBCE
[04:20] <lee_> BCD
[04:20] <Halfalife> Or will I have to fix it myself?
[04:21] <bobweaver> overwrite windoze *o
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> bobweaver:lol
[04:21] <Halfalife> Well, I use Windows occasionally.
[04:21] <Halfalife> I do still game sometimes.
[04:21] <Halfalife> And WINE doesn't seem to like my games.
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> zachoooo: did you even read the grub link i paste you
[04:22] <Halfalife> If none of these work, I might move the HDD to another computer, install, and switch it back.
[04:22] <Halfalife> Think that might work?
[04:22] <zachoooo> I already read the forums.
[04:23] <shockingbehavur> i hear pata ide is now dead is this true?
[04:23] <Halfalife> Well, not produced anymore, I wouldn't think.
[04:25] <aaron_r> Could use some help installing as a dual boot on my macbook pro if anyone could help....after install refit, and booting from live cd it keeps hanging at "Loading boot logo" any ideas?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> aaron_r: what video chip does the ssytem use?
[04:28] <aaron_r> ActionParsnip: Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB
[04:29] <aaron_r> ActionParsnip: and AMD Radeon HD 6750M
[04:30] <AnDsO> anyone snmp remote monitoring using snmp :)
[04:30] <AnDsO> sry nagios
[04:30] <mr0wl> Is the xulrunner dev in the default repo?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> aaron_r: try the boot option: nomodeset   may help
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> !find xulrunner
[04:31] <xwalk> Currently using awesome window manager and I'm having trouble finding resources on how to disable the touchpad while typing. Any ideas?
[04:33] <xwalk> I should probably specify that I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> xwalk: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/ubuntu-automatically-disable-touchpad.html
[04:34] <WeThePeople> xwalk, http://www.noobslab.com/2012/02/disable-touchpad-while-typing-or.html
[04:35] <inf3kt3d> hey guys, any advice on ungrading from 7.10 to current stable?
[04:35] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: why would you do that
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: do what?
[04:35] <gogeta> inf3kt3d: that's pretty old you might want to just fresh install
[04:36] <aaron_r> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll try that
[04:36] <nv> should grub4dos bootlace.com get picked up in a heuristics scan?
[04:36] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: disable your touchpad
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: clumsy typer
[04:36] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: who says I'm typing
[04:36] <gogeta> lol
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: xorg knows ;)
[04:37] <inf3kt3d> darn, im outta DVD's atm, was attempting to avoid an iso burn
[04:37] <inf3kt3d> had 7.10 layin around
[04:37] <gogeta> inf3kt3d: you can always make a USB boot disk
[04:38] <nv> unetbootin
[04:38] <nv> or the creator tool in the system menu
[04:38] <Halfalife> Whoops.
[04:38] <Halfalife> Just dropped a screw onto my mobo while my computer was on.
[04:38] <inf3kt3d> gogeta: can i use that to perform a full install on a 160 gig hard disk in an enclosure?
[04:39] <IlikeMoose> inf3kt3d: i installed 12.04 on a 40 gig drive in a docking station via usb so you shouldn't have a problem
[04:39] <gogeta> inf3kt3d: you sure can is also have some sort of USB device
[04:40] <nv> I have a laptop that doesnt have a hard drive that runs 12.04 kde
[04:40] <gogeta> inf3kt3d: as long as your computer support booting from Usb
[04:41] <nv> i have a computer that runs Mandrake from a Zip disk
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> nv: wow mandrake, that's old skool
[04:41] <nv> lol and the zip isnt?
[04:41] <gogeta> nv: now that old
[04:42] <Halfalife> Well, time to try Wubi.
[04:42] <Halfalife> I don't really like it.
[04:42] <Halfalife> But hey, it might work.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> how can one report a bug on package, if not sure what causes the bug?
[04:43] <inf3kt3d> so what i have is usb hard disk 160g, my primary hdd is a windows drive(disconnected atm) should i attempt to do this from my current setup or swap to windows drive, DL iso etc and continue from there? any links to guides, so i dont tie you guys up with redundancy?
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> nv: mandrake 7 was my first distro <3
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: guess as close as you can, the ops can move it later
[04:44] <gogeta> lotuspsychje: report the bug behavior and how to replicate it
[04:45] <gogeta> lotuspsychje: you don't need to know the cause that's for the guys figure out
[04:46] <Ashtray777> Anyone know how to change the font from within shell?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> gogeta: ok its because i was reading howto bug, saying the need as much info as possible also packagename that crashed maybe
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> Ashtray777: the font of what?
[04:46] <Ashtray777> the text within shell
[04:46] <G33kDad> greetings on the channel!
[04:47] <Ashtray777> I'm on ubuntu server and I want to change the font to the ubuntu monospace font
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Ashtray777: isn't it profiles -> edit current profile
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Ashtray777: ahhh
[04:47] <Ashtray777> I'm not on the GUI
[04:47] <G33kDad> i want to set up an old laptop as a home server. is it possible to have an external lcd display running x and just have a terminal on the built in screen?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> gogeta:nvm i found an existing bug on what i got https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/619365
[04:48] <gogeta> lotuspsychje: a guide how to reproduce the bug is always best then they can figure out why it's crashing or acting strangely
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Ashtray777: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107563/changing-console-font-on-ubuntu-10-04-server
[04:48] <rohn> i am in 11.10 and want to install a package from 12.04 repo. is it possible??
[04:48] <Ashtray777> sweet man thanks!
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> G33kDad: what is the server going to do?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> rohn: its possible but not advised or supported
[04:49] <G33kDad> ActionParsnip, smb, ssh, ftp
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> rohn: I suggest you find a ppa with the app
[04:49] <mr0wl> anyone know a good PPA for Xulrunner?
[04:49] <G33kDad> ActionParsnip, i'd like to have the external lcd display a desktop with screenlets... like a kiosk
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> G33kDad: no need for gui for that, it can do all that headless. if you use ssh you will get an sftp by default, you can use samba to easily share to windows systems
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: i tryed the nomodeset to fix my square mouse pointer, but that disables compiz for me..
[04:50] <G33kDad> ActionParsnip, I know... but i would really like to have a desktop/kiosk on an external monitor... twitter/weather/news ticker
[04:50] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: I think there is even ncurses guise for that
[04:50] <rohn> then anyone know the ppa for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1025720
[04:52] <G33kDad> ActionParsnip, just not sure how to launch x on the external monitor (would be screen1 in xorg.conf, i guess)
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: can you then install a proprietary video driver?
[04:52] <gogeta> G33kDad: he would be shocked what cli can do
[04:52] <gogeta> you
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: after etting nomodeset?
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | rohn
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> setting
[04:52] <G33kDad> gogeta, not sure what you mean...
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: after you get the desktop, is there a 3rd party driver you can install to then not need nomodeset
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: what video chip do you use?
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: ati x800 (older card)
[04:53] <gogeta> G33kDad: cli can do anything
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> G33kDad: You may be able to just boot with it attached and be ok, the output device may be remembered
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: i use fxgrl, so no new driver show up
[04:54] <fishbait> i've a third monitor hooked up to onboard graphics how do i get ubuntu to recognize it?
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: supported by the proprietary video driver?
[04:54] <kukulambar> hi anyone use ubuntu  TV?
[04:54] <G33kDad> gogeta, ActionParsnip, I'm not sure I'm asking the right question.
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:howto check
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: look in additional drivers
[04:55] <fishbait> i've a third monitor hooked up to onboard graphics how do i get ubuntu to use it?
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: no that list is empty
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: is the OS fully updated?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: clean installed precise 12.04.1 64bit
[04:56] <G33kDad> ActionParsnip, i would like to  have cli only on laptop built in lcd and x on the external monitor
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> and fully updated yes
[04:56] <G33kDad> ActionParsnip, is this possible?
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: get fully updated, see if it helps
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: it doesnt, this is what my bug look likes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/619365
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> G33kDad: why not have X on the display and blank on the monitor, then manage it via ssh etc
[04:57] <G33kDad> ActionParsnip, monitor is bigger/prettier screen :)
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> G33kDad: there is probably a switching shortcut on the system to switch outputs. It may be remembered between boots
[04:58] <G33kDad> ActionParsnip, ahhh... i see what you mean... like a Fn + n key combination
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> G33kDad: then have a play, see what you can do
[04:58] <G33kDad> ActionParsnip, cool... thanks so much!
[04:58] <anish[1]> In my dell Ubuntu 10.10 eventhough I have set the option to never put the display to sleep it goes to sleep.I wonder if there is this problem can be solved?
[04:58] <Kaberle> Alright I'm new here so sorry if I'm in the wrong section or something
[04:58] <fishbait> i have a third monitor hooked up to onboard graphics how do i get ubuntu to use it?
[04:58] <G33kDad> peace and love #ubuntu
[04:59] <Kaberle> but I'd like some help with a new windows 7 laptop with a chopppy old game
[04:59] <lickalott> ubuntu related?
[04:59] <Kaberle> uhm what's ubuntu?
[04:59] <Kaberle> idk I'm sorry
[04:59] <blob> fishbait: need to configure your xorg.conf
[05:00] <Kaberle> I thought this was like a general help irc
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | Kaberle
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Kaberle: this is ubuntu supoprt only. Windows is supported in ##windows
[05:00] <Kaberle> oh okay thanks a lot I'll check that out!
[05:01]  * lickalott scratches head
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset > lotuspsychje
[05:09] <serban> can i change show desktop behavior somehow to only minimize the windows ONLY for the current workspace?
[05:10] <Halfalife> With Compiz, probably.
[05:15] <SteevB> hey, ive had this issue before. But I forgot the fix. Anyway, I installed kubuntu desktop and now the regular ubuntu splash screen is gone. How can I change that back to normal
[05:17] <WeThePeople> steevb, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1607860
[05:18] <SteevB> WeThePeople: thanks
[05:18] <WeThePeople> steevb, might work :)
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> SteevB: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[05:19] <mithran> hai all i dont know how to add my applications like empathy, ibus so on to start up
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> no need for extra applications
[05:20] <mithran> can you  help me
[05:21] <zj> hhh
[05:21] <lickalott> mithran....huh?
[05:21] <zj> zhe shi  na li
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> mithran: in dash search for 'startup'
[05:22] <WeThePeople> steevb, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/customize-boot-splash-screen-logo-linux/
[05:22] <mithran> lickalott: can you help me ... the problem regarding asdding application
[05:22] <zj> i can't install my vim
[05:22] <mithran> ActionParsnip:  i found the start up but cant add the application
[05:23] <zj> help
[05:23] <mithran> ActionParsnip:  because i dont know the path to browse it
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> mithran: if you want to add empathy, just type empathy for all the boxes
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> mithran: you don't need the path, the application is in $PATH so will run
[05:23] <mithran> ActionParsnip:  ok it was added
[05:24] <SteevB> WeThePeople: I think the second thing worked
[05:24] <mithran> ActionParsnip: then i want IBUS
[05:24] <SteevB> WeThePeople: Im going to restart now to check
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> mithran: if you jsut add the command you run, or you can symlink the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications to ~/.config/autostart    that you want to run at logon
[05:25] <mithran> Action how can i browse the applications to add to start up
[05:26] <mithran> ActionParsnip:  Ok Thank you
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> mithran: if you run:  file /usr/share/applications/ibus.desktop    does it say the file doesn't exist?
[05:27] <alesan> hey how comes ubuntu still has an ANCIENT version of mtd-utils?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> mithran: if the system tells you the details of the file, then run:  ln -s /usr/share/applications/ibus.desktop ~/.config/autostart/ibus.desktop      and it will run at login
[05:27] <alesan> who should I note that they should update the package?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> alesan: report a bug and it may get updated, you may find a ppa with a newer version
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[05:28] <alesan> I do not need a ppa I will get the git and compile it myself
[05:28] <alesan> but it's annoying, mtd-utils 1.4.4 does not have the free space fixup for ubifs
[05:29] <alesan> ActionParsnip, who should I write to for the "bugreport"?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> alesan: just run:  ubuntu-bug  mtd-utils     and the process will start
[05:29] <alesan> thanks!
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> alesan: Quantal has 1.5 :)
[05:30] <alesan> quantal? what is?
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> alesan: Ubuntu 12.10
[05:31] <alesan> oh OK
[05:31] <alesan> so it's kind of useless I submit the bugreport...
[05:32] <phibxr> alesan: Yep, since 12.10 is due for launch next month. :)
[05:33] <dos000> alo ?
[05:33] <dos000> can you install synaptic from the livecd ?
[05:34] <spiouki> hey anybody knows how i can share files between xp guest and ubuntu 12.04 lts host in vmware?
[05:34] <mithran> ActionParsnip:  ok
[05:34] <Auzy> spiouki, I just use SMB/Windows file sharing
[05:34] <dos000> spiouki: install ssh on ubuntu and use winscp on xp
[05:34] <dos000> stupid 12.04 changed evrything
[05:35] <dos000> i hate whoever did 112.04
[05:35] <dos000> :-(
[05:35] <bazhang> !ot | dos000
[05:35] <dos000> anyway ...
[05:35] <spiouki> you guys upload it to internet????????????
[05:36] <dos000> bazhang: thx for the reminder
[05:36] <spiouki> dos000: do  i need to upload it to internet and download it again?
[05:36] <dos000> spiouki: ?
[05:37] <dos000> spiouki: do apt-get install ssh on ubuntu ...
[05:37] <dos000> and install winscp on the xp machine
[05:38] <dos000> can someone tell me if the universe repository is accessible on the live cd ?
[05:38] <msx> spiouki: sorry pal can you say it again? i didn't catch it
[05:38] <dos000> i have a machine that is not connected to the internet
[05:38] <msx> spiouki: which system is host and which one is guest?
[05:39] <spiouki> msx: ubuntu is host and xp is guest
[05:39] <msx> dos000: what app r u looking 4? the package set of the live image is pretty small
[05:39] <dos000> msx  ... i am looking for chntpw
[05:39] <msx> spiouki: have you tried shared folders? this way you can share files from a host to a guest and viceversa
[05:40] <dos000> msx i downloaded the full 12.04 desktop cd
[05:40] <spiouki> dont know how it works where is that folder in ubuntu?
[05:40] <msx> dos000: i'm pretty sure it isn't there... you should try SystemRescCD, the damn best rescue live image of all times, Gentoo-based, very easy to use and very powerfull too
[05:41] <spiouki> I have samba and i made a shared folder on my screen but i cant connect it to guest xp
[05:41] <msx> dos000: i'm sure sysresccd have that tool
[05:41] <dos000> msx: does it have chntpw on it ?
[05:41] <msx> dos000: pretty sure yes it does, go check it's website or head to it's irc
[05:41] <dos000> msx: I also need some adaptec drivers for a HW raid ... :-(
[05:41] <dos000> msx: i might have better luck with ubuntu
[05:42] <msx> dos000: i'm not sure about that but since it's made to work on anything may be you're lucky
[05:42] <msx> spiouki: the shared folder i'm talking is a special feature of vmware
[05:42] <dos000> msx: can you explain why i cant access all the packages in the live cd ???
[05:43] <dos000> msx: I mean i have the full 700megs cd with me ....
[05:43] <spiouki> don't know about it i googled it and found nothing tell me where to begin
[05:43] <msx> spiouki: you must activate that feature in the guest VM config menu then launch it and it should automatically mount the shared folder in windows xp
[05:43] <bazhang> dos000, use the alternate cd as a repo, not the live cd
[05:44] <dos000> bazhang: thx !
[05:44] <bazhang> !alternate | dos000
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> is it normal for nomodeset option to disable compiz?
[05:45] <msx> dos000: dumb simple: chntpwd is an utility to change windows passwd, while it's a good tool to have in a rescue live system, the ubuntu live image is not meant for that, so expect to have only a _very_ small subset of packages available in those 700mb
[05:46] <dos000> msx: bazhang .. thanks all for your great support :-)
[05:46] <yours> how to share files b/w ubuntu and win  using LAN ?
[05:47] <ebs512> how much time should it take to build source in ubuntu from a dual core amd to an i5 threaded to quad core processor with turbo boost?
[05:50] <yours> how to share files b/w ubuntu and win over LAN ?
[05:51] <bazhang> !nfs | yours
[05:52] <liam> something really strange just happened to my ubuntu ahah
[05:53] <yours> bazhang: is their any GUI wased sharing Tool ?
[05:53] <yours> wased * based
[05:53] <liam> i did sudo apt-get remove "program name here" in the terminal.. and terminal uninstalled 50 or so of my programs
[05:54] <liam> removed mozilla, but i still have it open so i can still use it? :|
[05:54] <msx> ebs512: WHAT!?
[05:54] <ebs512> how much time should it take to build source in ubuntu from a dual core amd to an i5 threaded to quad core processor with turbo boost?
[05:55] <ebs512> i5 dual core threaded to a quad core**
[05:56] <msx> liam: haha, that's what it's called ubuntu-way! xD (just trolling... but it's real anyway!)
[05:56] <ebs512> building android source in ubuntu, it took 8 hours on the amd dual core and after repo syncing the source it ended up being 10gb
[05:56] <ebs512> 60*gb
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> ebs512: keep ontopic mate, ubuntu support problems
[05:59] <PowerblinQ> hoi
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !nl | PowerblinQ
[06:00] <PowerblinQ> #sm
[06:09] <lidar> lotuspsychje: now i will never know if amd is faster then intel i5 since you hushed ebs512
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> lidar: thats little offtopic mate right
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> !info xserver-xorg-video-ati
[06:21] <hron84> Hi! Is there a way to specify more than one host in sudoers line? So, how can I change "user1 box1=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/foo" to grant sudo on box1 and box2? I tried "user1 box1,box2=NOPASSWD /usr/bin/foo" but without luck.
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> hron84: when you say 'host' do you mean physical system?
[06:22] <hron84> ActionParsnip: yeah
[06:22] <hron84> host named box1 and box2
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> hron84: you will need to modify the sudoers file for both systems
[06:23] <hron84> ActionParsnip: sudoers is managed centrally
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> hron84: how so?
[06:23] <hron84> with puppet
[06:24] <hron84> so there is a single central sudoers file what delivered to every machine
[06:24] <hron84> ActionParsnip: and I know there is a way to specify per-host definitions in sudoers
[06:24] <Guest50446> my ubuntu 12.04 veryslow how to speed up connection help please...xoxox
[06:25] <hron84> ActionParsnip: as the original line says, I can allow foo on box1. But I want to allow foo on box1 and box2 too.
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest50446: how much RAM do you have? What speed CPU and what video chip do you use?
[06:25] <WeThePeople> guest50446, do you mean internet connection?
[06:26] <TechnodicT_> Hi
[06:26] <Gotennn_> Hi TechnodicT_
[06:26] <WeThePeople> hi
[06:26]  * Gotennn_ nods to WeThePeople 
[06:27] <TechnodicT_> We the liberal people using Linux
[06:27] <Gotennn_> I have a ton of files, is there a way to copy the entire folder and let it only replace the biggest files that are duplicates?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Gotennn_: could use rsync, it will only copy files that change
[06:27] <kriada> hi, are people allowed to asked questions about Ubuntu here?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> kriada: yes, its a support channel
[06:28] <lidar> !ask | kriada
[06:28] <Gotennn_> Timestamps won't help, it may show up as most recently modified but it may be empty
[06:28] <TechnodicT_> Wat are your machine configs people?
[06:29] <lidar> Gotennn_: check out the man page for cp it has backup options ect.
[06:29] <Gotennn_> Okay, will do
[06:29] <lidar> Gotennn_: there is a noclobber option only moves the file if it doesnt already exist
[06:31] <lidar> TechnodicT_:as in hardware ?
[06:31] <Gotennn_> Good to know! I may need to know that next time. Currently the file may exist on both sides, so I need it to always keep the bigger one on target
[06:31] <kriada> im wanting to learn apache and come across XAMPP. I see it combines mysql php and perl in which sounds cool, but its recommended way to install *isnt* to use sudo 'apt-get'; a) do people recco XAMPP on Ubuntu or should i just install the various required modules via the correct Ubuntu package manager
[06:33] <WeThePeople> kriada,more precise channel might be #httpd
[06:33] <kriada> ow thanks!
[06:33] <TechnodicT_> (TechnodicT_) I hv a i5 processor 4gigs of ram
[06:33] <Gotennn_> my googling phrases have failed to show how I can do anything like what I'm attempting. Was worth a try. Perhaps I'll just compare directory sizes then do it that way en masse
[06:34] <lidar> TechnodicT_: do it with a shell command!
[06:34] <ItsPriyank> Hi I want to setup Android development environment on my 12.04 and want to install jdk. How should I do it?
[06:35] <TechnodicT_> What kind of hardware are you people running ubuntu on?
[06:35] <zlf> samsung
[06:35] <zlf> laptop
[06:35] <TechnodicT_> Config
[06:35] <TechnodicT_> ?
[06:36] <Gotennn_> Thanks lidar
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> lidar: seems like this bug has never been solved for years https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[06:38] <lidar> ItsPriyank: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=setup+android+sdk+on+ubuntu
[06:38] <TechnodicT_> Hello Lotusphychje..!
[06:39] <ItsPriyank> lidar:  :p I was looking for some exact tut. Can I follow http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7
[06:40] <zlf> TechodicT
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> TechnodicT_:hi mate, your prob got solved?
[06:41] <TechnodicT_> Yes..
[06:42] <TechnodicT_> Online from my HTC One
[06:44] <ssta> ItsPriyank: openjdk 7 will work fine for android dev
[06:45] <ssta> ItsPriyank: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk
[06:45] <acemeister> what are the advantages besides security ubuntu has over windows?
[06:46] <ssta> acemeister: "I like it better than windows"?
[06:46] <bazhang> acemeister, a good topic for #ubuntu-discuss
[06:46] <acemeister> cool
[06:46] <acemeister> i never knew
[06:46] <acemeister> theres a chan for everything :D
[06:47] <ssta> lidar: telling people to google (whilst understandable sometimes) isn't really in the spirit of this channel
[06:47] <jen_> is anyone good with MyPaint? The Mypaint room is not responding to my question -.-"
[06:49] <lidar> jen_: what is mypaint ?
[06:49] <jen_> -.-
[06:50] <jen_> lidar, art software
[06:50] <lidar> jen_: like the gimp ?
[06:50] <jen_> lidar,  kinda
[06:50] <bazhang> jen_, whats the actual question
[06:50] <lidar> !ot | bazhang
[06:51] <bazhang> lidar, what?
[06:51] <bazhang> lidar, what was that for
[06:51] <jen_> well it saved as some weird file, its still under an 'ora' file but under last date modified, it says, '2.34' or something instead of a date
[06:52] <lidar> bazhang: because you always post when people go off topic i wanted to make sure you stayed on ;)
[06:54] <bazhang> jen_, so the file is saved in the .ora format? and the time stamp is 2:34 instead of a date. is that the gist of it?
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> howto fix this anoying bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[06:54] <jen_> bazhang, yeah and I would ***REALLY*** love to be able the open it again
[06:54]  * xterminus    http://archive.org/details/gd85-06-14.sbd.carman.13747.sbeok.shnf
[06:55] <bazhang> xterminus, what is that. use a normal question and not /me
[06:55] <jen_> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/E2VXMPRf
[06:56] <xterminus> no wrong channel
[06:56] <Anom01y> I am looking to try and find a way to play .swf files in LInux (using mplayer or VLC) does anyone have an idea of how this can be accomplished ?
[06:56] <xterminus> i dunno but Steve Jobs HATED FLASH
[06:56] <bazhang> Anom01y, mplayer plays them fine
[06:56] <xterminus> he said it sucked ass
[06:57] <bazhang> xterminus, stop with the offtopic
[06:57] <xterminus> k
[06:57] <xterminus> bed for me guys
[06:58] <lidar> Anom01y: if you open a shell and type apt-cache search swf you see a few packages
[06:59] <lidar> Anom01y: there should be a few diffrent players listed
[06:59] <Anom01y> bazhang, I have a .swf file but mplayer doesn't play it
[07:00] <Ginto8> I'm having a really weird lightdm problem
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Anom01y: can you play it with firefox?
[07:00] <Anom01y> hmm let me try
[07:02] <Ginto8> When I log in through lightdm under my username, it instantly exits (/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log reveals that it exited with value 1). When I log in through the guest account, it works fine. This happens with all sessions, including gnome-shell, xfce, and the recovery console. I can use ctrl+alt+f# to open tty's and log in that way, though.
[07:03] <Ginto8> the session exits and lightdm comes up again, as though I had logged out*
[07:03] <lidar> Ginto8: alt control f2 login then startx -- :2
[07:04] <Halexander_Valen> Hey there! Can someone please help me? Pretty please with a cherry on top. See, I want to install VisualBoyAdvance and the VisualBoyAdvance-gtk so I can emulate some pokemon games, but the problem is, with only these two, that every time I try and use either Synaptic Package manager or Ubuntu Software center to install these two, they ask me to do this "Please insert the disk labeled:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ -
[07:05] <bazhang> Halexander_Valen, take the cd out of the software sources
[07:05] <Halexander_Valen> How do I do that?
[07:05] <bazhang> Halexander_Valen, either by opening synaptic package manager, or commenting out the line in sources.list
[07:06] <Josh1> Halexander_Valen: Or, you can go through Software Center>>Software Sources and uncheck the CD.
[07:06] <Halexander_Valen> I'll try.
[07:07] <Ginto8> lidar: that just gives me a blank screen, then when I go back to the tty it shows "Waiting for X server to begin connections" and "No protocol specified"
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> is there a channel for bugs?
[07:08] <gartral> lotuspsychje: you're in it
[07:08] <bazhang> gartral, thats not correct
[07:09] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, use alis to search
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:09] <bazhang> !alis | lotuspsychje
[07:09] <lidar> Ginto8: make sure the files in your ~/ are owned by your user account sudo chown -R username:users /home/username
[07:13] <shannondias> pp lal
[07:14] <shannondias> PP LAL
[07:14] <shannondias> WHERE ARE YOU
[07:14] <shannondias> PP LAL
[07:14] <shannondias> WHERE ARE YOU
[07:14] <FloodBot1> shannondias: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:14] <Ginto8> lidar: that doesn't seem to be helping. According to the logs, /usr/sbin/lightdm-session is exiting with value 1. Is there any place I can look for a more specific error code?
[07:14] <shannondias> hey please
[07:15] <bazhang> shannondias, this is ubuntu support only
[07:16] <lidar> Ginto8: dmsg give you any errors
[07:16] <lidar> Ginto8: should be a /var/log/xorg.log as well
[07:17] <lidar> cat /path/tolog | less
[07:18] <lidar> sorry Ginto8 i gotta slee if you can get some errors post them someone else will know it im sure
[07:18] <Ginto8> lidar: alright, thanks for the help
[07:19] <atom_> Nobody answers me in the xubuntu channel, can I expose my issue here ?
[07:19] <auronandace> atom_: sure
[07:20] <atom_> I'm running Xubuntu 12.04.1 and I would like to set my screen's brightness. I can't from xcfe4 power manager
[07:20] <atom_> I also tried to install gnome-power-manager but it don't work either.
[07:21] <atom_> The only command which helped me is "  sudo echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness " but I would prefer if I could set the brightness in a graphic interface.
[07:22] <jen_> someone
[07:22] <jen_> anyone
[07:22] <jen_> pleaase?
[07:22] <jen_> I still don't know what went wrong D:
[07:28] <modo> ~~
[07:28] <Wiky> how can I get the source file of command such as "ls"
[07:28] <Xirre> Can I install ubuntu on an Android with good specs? (Google Nexus 7)
[07:29] <Jobbe> Hmm i'm on a live dist right now - but it seems the trackpad aint working - acer 5750 p5we0 .. before i install then i would like to know, if any of you could help getting it work? or might have a link to a solution, i've tried google - with no luck
[07:31] <Ginto8> Jobbe: is there a key toggling the trackpad? I know my acer laptop has one. It might just be disabled.
[07:32] <Jobbe> Ginto8: yes there is a key, it tried it and no luck
[07:33] <Ginto8> hmm not sure what it could be then. I can't claim much expertise ;P
[07:34] <Rusher> hi, do you know some good websites for IT news - linux, programming... etc?
[07:35] <Jobbe> Ginto8: it's ok - i tried debian too and the trackpad worked on that one, so i assumed it would work on ubuntu .. but guess not
[07:36] <Xirre> How do I go about file transfers using SSH? (Would SSH be the securest way to go?). I am looking to make a server like a dropbox for individual people. They each get their own folder.
[07:37] <auronandace> !scp | Xirre
[07:38] <Xirre> @ubottu Will it let me set individual folders for people? Can they upload and download and run programs?
[07:39] <Diamondi_> What are some of basic techniques for scaling a file storage server?
[07:44] <auronandace> !pm | Xirre
[07:45] <Ginto8> alright, I think I've gotten closer to the problem: When I log in through light-dm, it flashes a console then brings the greeter back up, as though it logged in then logged back out immediately. The lightdm logs show that this in fact happened, and the lightdm-session process returned 1. This occurs with all sessions, including the recovery console. I can log in through other tty's without a problem. Other user accounts can log in 
[07:49] <codemaniac> !paste
[07:57] <Ginto8> my lightdm won't log in. Any suggestions?
[08:05] <inf3kt3d> hello folks, laptop internal HD removed, 160g sata drive in enclosure through usb, ubuntu installs 7.10 LTS, updates and successful reboot into 8.04, 10.xx update initiated, but hangs...after reboot to re-initiate update, i get: kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)....any suggestions on whats gone wrong? ways to correct?
[08:06] <codemaniac> having some characterset problems
[08:06] <codemaniac> locale -a throws up some errors
[08:07] <codemaniac> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:07] <codemaniac> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:07] <codemaniac> locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:12] <mhahe> hey guys I got a sony vaio z svz13114gxx 2 days ago and its been hell trying to get ubuntu installed. now i got that done im looking to get my external graphics card working (ati radeon HD 7600m) i installed the propriety drivers no luck. I've been reading around and i see that there is an issue with laptops having more than one graphics card ( i also have intel graphics) and the only solid option is to have one run at all times and forget about the other. is
[08:12] <mhahe>  this true?
[08:15] <bolosaur> Hi girls and guys. Is Ubuntu a good OS for sharing an internet connection over LAN?
[08:15] <Guest45403> dunno :P
[08:15] <bolosaur> :)
[08:16] <nofame-nogame> bolosaur: that is a questionable question
[08:16] <bolosaur> nofame-nogame: why
[08:16] <Ginto8> bolosaur: I'm not specifically sure how you'd do it, but I'm sure it's possible with ubuntu
[08:16] <mhahe> just bought a new laptop and had to remove windows to install ubuntu on 1 HD, and im planning on installing windows on the other HD. The laptop came with windows professional. I read that i wont need a key because windows installer will check something internally that comes with the laptop and i can skip the software key. So i downloaded Windows 7 iso from mydigitallife website. before i begin i was just curious if anyone had an opinion or thoughts on what im
[08:16] <mhahe>  doing to save me the time of hitting a brick wall in installation
[08:17] <levander> bolosaur: Just get a router, lots easier to set up.
[08:17] <bolosaur> levander: Well, if Ubuntu isn't an option I'll just download Windows.
[08:17] <bolosaur> I just try to keep it legal as far as possible.
[08:18] <levander> bolosaur: You can do it with Windows or Linux, but a router is just easier.
[08:18] <randomDude> bolosaur: of course it's possible
[08:18] <nofame-nogame> bolosaur: whats good and its generally too basic
[08:19] <randomDude> bolosaur: but the how of doing it is dependant on a few factors... which you've not elaborated on.
[08:19] <bolosaur> 10:18:01 <levander> bolosaur: You can do it with Windows or Linux, but a router is just easier. <--- I'd say Windows is easier, because it's just a matter of using the connction sharing wizard, i.e. I'd save myself the trouble of having to go out and buy a USB-based mobile internet router.
[08:19] <bolosaur> 10:18:02 <randomDude> bolosaur: of course it's possible <-- Well, I'm not just wondering if it's possible, but also if it's not goign to force me to spend hours troubleshooting it to get it to work.
[08:19] <randomDude> bolosaur: are you here to troll? or get answers?
[08:20] <Guest45403> mhahe: why don't you try virtual box or something like that?
[08:20] <bolosaur> Get answers.
[08:20] <Guest45403> it's lot easier
[08:20] <bolosaur> But I think I got it - i.e. it's too much of a hassle.
[08:20] <randomDude> bolosaur: then give us more information than emotiions
[08:20] <bolosaur> I'm not giving you emotions. You're telling me to buy a router. I'm telling you why that's not a good idea from my perspective.
[08:20] <bolosaur> So as to eliminate that recurring suggestion.
[08:20] <randomDude> bolosaur: i didn't tell you to buy anything.
[08:20] <bolosaur> Now, what info do you want?
[08:20] <Ginto8> bolosaur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[08:21] <randomDude> bolosaur: what medium are you wanting to share over? wifi or ethernet?
[08:21] <bolosaur> randomDude: ethernet.
[08:21] <levander> bolosaur: It's not hard, it's just unless you have a reason you don't want to use a router, a router is just easier.  Routers are specifically designed to do what you want to do.  Whereas Linux boxes are more general (and more expensive).
[08:21] <nofame-nogame> levander: what is a router for u
[08:21] <bolosaur> I'll be connecting a mobile internet modem to it via USB, and share the connection via LAN.
[08:21] <randomDude> bolosaur: and the computer sharing the connection connects to the internet through ethernet or wifi ?
[08:21] <arulmozhi>  how to enable openCL for openCL based filter in gegl???
[08:22] <levander> nofame-nogame: You don't know what a router is?
[08:22] <bolosaur> randomDude: The laptop's internet connction comes from an USB modem, and will be sharing via ethernet.
[08:22] <nofame-nogame> levander: i have absolutely no idea
[08:22] <Jordan_U> bolosaur: http://magazine.redhat.com/2008/10/16/video-fedora-10-connection-sharing/ (the process is the same in Ubuntu).
[08:23] <bolosaur> cool, thanks.
[08:23] <Jordan_U> bolosaur: You're welcome.
[08:23] <randomDude> bolosaur: ok if you want to computers to access shared connection through ethernet you'll need to modify UFW
[08:23] <bolosaur> what's that?
[08:23] <Jordan_U> randomDude: bolosaur: No, you will not need to modify UFW.
[08:23] <bolosaur> okay
[08:23] <randomDude> bolosaur: it's the Uncomplicated Fire Wall
[08:24] <nofame-nogame> randomDude: how is it uncomplicated
[08:24] <randomDude> nofame-nogame: that's its name.
[08:24] <levander> bolosaur: oh yeah, that mobile hotspot stuff, you may have a reason to want to use a Linux box to share your internet connection...  I just use my phone as a mobile hotspot to connect my laptop to wirelessly.  But because all the mobile carriers have different pricing for the service, it's possible you're better off with a computer than a router to share internet service.
[08:24] <nofame-nogame> randomDude: stumbled upon that wondering
[08:25] <zolkash> #asd
[08:25] <bolosaur> levander: I can't use hotspot sharing because a) it sucks and b) im trying to share an internet connection to my xbox, which doesnt have wifi
[08:25] <bolosaur> :)
[08:25] <randomDude> Jordan_U: care to elaborate? network manager does not provide a gui to shar the ethernet, only wifi.
[08:26] <Jordan_U> randomDude: Network Manager provides a GUI which allows sharing an internet connection to any available interface. I've shared to ethernet (from a 3G modem) multiple times.
[08:26] <randomDude> bolosaur: try that then. should be really easy.
[08:26] <levander> bolosaur: have you looked into something like this: http://www.cradlepoint.com/products/machine-to-machine-routers/ctr500-mobile-broadband-travel-router
[08:27] <randomDude> bolosaur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#GUI_Method_via_Network_Manager_.28Ubuntu_9.10_and_up.29
[08:27] <levander> bolosaur: I think the company Zoom has a product some people like better than the Cradlepoint.  But Cradlepoint is the established name in that market.
[08:28] <bolosaur> levander: I have looked at a couple of solutions like that, but there are a couple of typical issues with mobile internet routers
[08:28] <bolosaur> and plus, id save myself money doing it this way
[08:29] <levander> bolosaur: Okay, I was just trying to make sure you're aware of options... But it sounds like you've already done a lot of research.
[08:29] <bolosaur> I have, but thanks a lot. :)
[08:30] <rahul_> hii can please anyone suggest me good video converter for ubuntu.
[08:30] <inf3kt3d> so wait, not to troll the convo, but...your going to use a mobile usb modem to connect to your xbox, correct?
[08:33] <RosenCorr> hello
[08:33] <bolosaur> inf3kt3d: Yeah.
[08:33] <bolosaur> I am.
[08:33] <levander> bolosaur: Have you made sure Linux has a driver for your USB modem?  That could be a stumbling block...
[08:34] <bolosaur> levander: It's an iPhone, so I assume it does. :)
[08:34] <inf3kt3d> to what end? i mean are you looking to download patches/hacks, play COD, or to just log into LIVE?
[08:35] <levander> bolosaur: It's been a long time since I looked into that stuff, so I don't know, but if I were you I'd check to make sure Linux can use an internet connection over an iPhone...
[08:35] <bolosaur> Update the system and make purchases
[08:35] <bolosaur> i just googled it and it appears to work
[08:37] <levander> bolosaur: Well, with the guides that have been linked here for you, have these guys pretty much got you pointed in the right direction, or you need more info?
[08:39] <inf3kt3d> im sure it would, for that. although im sure it will take what seems like forever. watch your bandwidth over the network tho, unless your unlimited of course XD
[08:39] <bolosaur> levander: nah i seem to be set. thanks mate.
[08:40] <inf3kt3d> good luck!
[08:40] <Jordan_U> bolosaur: Since the guides linked don't have good screenshots for specifically sharing to an ethernet connection. First you'll need to start nm-connection-editor (click the network-manager icon and go to "Edit Connections...") then go to the Ethernet tab and select "Edit connection" like this: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/nm-connection-editor.png which will bring up a new window, in that window go to the "IPv4 Settings" tab and ...
[08:40] <Jordan_U> ... in the "Method" drop down box select "Shared to other computers" http://jordanu.dyndns.org/tmp/nm-connection-editor-shared.png and then click "Save" and you're done.
[08:40] <Damienwindigo> why isnt my intel module isnt being inserted
[08:41] <ebs512> is there a good algebra software for ubuntu?
[08:42] <Jordan_U> ebs512: What would this algebra software do? Do you mean software for teaching algebra or solving algebraic equasions or somthing else?
[08:42] <diligentdino> smb not taking passwords, but i can see the shares in all forms.
[08:42] <Damienwindigo> why isnt my intel module isnt being inserted
[08:42] <ebs512> well to help me with my homework, something that I could type in an equation and it would walk me through the steps in solving the problem
[08:43] <bolosaur> Jordan_U: Wait, are you saying that I'm going to have to fiddle with a bunch of settings?
[08:43] <bolosaur> and that there's no way to automate the process?
[08:43] <bolosaur> because if so, i've tried doing this before
[08:43] <bolosaur> and it completely messed up my system
[08:43] <levander> ebs512: math isn't something easily summarized, i'd be surprised if anybody's written anything like that that covers anything more than some basics
[08:43] <bolosaur> this is exactly the kind of stuff i dont want to be caught doing a whole day
[08:44] <bolosaur> ubuntu sucks too much time
[08:44] <bolosaur> over the simplest things
[08:44] <Damienwindigo> ebs512 do you have your book
[08:44] <bolosaur> so if its not automated, ill pass. :)
[08:44] <Damienwindigo> ....are you doing your homework online?
[08:44] <ebs512> I have my book, yes, it only has answers for the odd problems
[08:45] <inf3kt3d> lol
[08:45] <ebs512> no, not doing my homework online
[08:45] <Jordan_U> bolosaur: It's not a lot of settings, it's changing exactly one setting in the ethernet settings pane saying "this interface should be used for sharing internet". And if you get something wrong you can simply create a new connection and everything will be automagic.
[08:46] <Damienwindigo> I know math is actually relatively easy
[08:46] <diligentdino> Jordan_U, He left
[08:46] <Damienwindigo> One You need your formula
[08:46] <trijntje> Hi all, is it possible for uname -a to be mistaken about whether or not the current system is 32 or 64 bits?
[08:46] <Damienwindigo> next all you need is to plug in your numbers
[08:46] <ssta> trijntje: no
[08:46] <joobie> guys after my install of ubuntu, it comes up with an error saying "Gave up waiting for root device" .. and it drops me to a busybox prompt. It also says "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<uuid> does nto exist". In Busybox I don't see /dev/disk/by-uuid at all? is there a reason im not seeing it? should i be? should i just change it from the uuid to id (i do see /dev/disk/by-id)
[08:47] <trijntje> ssta: thanks. I'm building custom images and I wasn't sure if I was getting both architectures
[08:47] <diligentdino> joobie, what does sudo blkid say about the drive.
[08:48] <Damienwindigo> Why isn't my intel module being inserted
[08:48] <diligentdino> Damienwindigo, you need to be more specific as to what your trying to do vs what is happening.
[08:49] <ebs512> I was hoping there would be a software for this os to help me memorize the formulas, there's about 7 of them I need memorized for wednesday's test
[08:49] <diligentdino> !details| Damienwindigo
[08:49] <joobie> diligentdino, it says "/dev/sdb: TYPE="isw_raid_member"
[08:49] <ptrakk> sup
[08:49] <joobie> diligentdino, what does that cmd do btw?
[08:50] <Damienwindigo> Linux bt 3.2.6 compiz    compiz --indirect-rendering --replace
[08:50] <Damienwindigo> compiz (core) - Fatal: Software rendering detected.
[08:50] <Damienwindigo> compiz (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
[08:50] <Damienwindigo> compiz (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[08:50] <FloodBot1> Damienwindigo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <diligentdino> joobie, blkid shows you the devices on your machine by UUID. You can then take the UUID and mount by this ID
[08:51] <diligentdino> brb 2 sec
[08:51] <joobie> kk
[08:51] <theadmin> Damienwindigo: Backtrack is not supported here.
[08:52] <rahul_> please suggest:good video converter/compresser for ubuntu.
[08:52] <ptrakk> ffmpeg
[08:52] <theadmin> rahul_: ffmpeg (command-line), winff (ffmpeg frontend)
[08:52] <joobie> diligentdino, grub is using root=UUID=<uuid>, how can i change it to just work from the ID? I can see the disk by ID properly in /dev/disk/by-id or via /dev/mapper
[08:52] <rahul_> Thanks
[08:53] <diligentdino> joobie, /dev/mapper means your running in a RAID format. That's your devices
[08:53] <theadmin> joobie: You can use any valid notation that "mount" accepts. You can use root=/dev/sda1 or root=/dev/disk/by-id/whatever.
[08:53] <diligentdino> Damienwindigo, bt isn't supported in this channel.. and just FYI. BT isn't really suppose to be installed on on a physical drive.
[08:54] <joobie> diligentdino, nod.. it is a RAID5 setup from my motherboard
[08:54] <joobie> theadmin, i see
[08:55] <joobie> where can i edit this btw? I am in the initramfs busybox and i can't see /boot or /etc/grub
[08:55] <theadmin> joobie: You're gonna need a livecd
[08:55] <joobie> i had a dig around for menu.1st and i can't find it
[08:55] <theadmin> joobie: also "menu.lst" is grub1, grub2 stores configs in /etc/grub.d/ and /etc/default/grub (and /boot/grub/grub.cfg, which is generated from those in /etc/grub.d and /etc/default/grub)
[08:56] <joobie> theadmin, is it the /boot partition on the RAID itself the initramfs is trying to read which points to the UUID incorrectly?
[08:56] <joobie> theadmin, i see.. which file should i be updating the UUID to ID in then?
[08:57] <theadmin> joobie: Hm... Well, I'm not really familiar with GRUB2, having spent most of my time with grub1. But look under /etc/grub.d/
[08:57] <theadmin> joobie: Again, you'll need a livecd. The initramfs busybox is not the filesystem on your HD, so you won't find that there
[08:59] <joobie> yea im booting off unbuntu live cd now
[08:59] <joobie> it's very weird though.. that 11.14 installer decided to point to the root fs via uuid, and the initramfs doesnt create the mapping under /dev to it
[09:00] <theadmin> joobie: Yeah, it *is* odd
[09:01] <pungi_man> how to use a file as a template and make duplicates of that file ?
[09:02] <ptrakk> cp /path/to/file /new/file
[09:03] <pungi_man> i want to make at least 100 copies of that file, ptrakk
[09:03] <gordonjcp> pungi_man: use some sort of loop?
[09:03] <gordonjcp> pungi_man: What exactly are you trying to do?
[09:04] <pungi_man> i making periodic table and i want to make files that contain different values
[09:04] <pungi_man> like this
[09:05] <pungi_man> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181062/
[09:05] <joobie> grrr
[09:05] <joobie> anyone know where you update the root= option for grub in grub2?
[09:05] <theadmin> pungi_man: I'd write a script which asks the relevant info for each file and creates the file.
[09:05] <pungi_man> gordonjcp, this will be my template ... the link
[09:05] <gordonjcp> pungi_man: okay, why files?  Sounds like the sort of thing a database would be ideal for
[09:06] <pungi_man> gordonjcp, it will be much confusing ..... i am school student
[09:06] <theadmin> pungi_man: Actually, gordonjcp is right, use sqlite
[09:06] <pungi_man> and making a school propject
[09:06] <theadmin> Oh, schools.
[09:07] <pungi_man> theadmin, yes ... 15 years
[09:07] <theadmin> pungi_man: Give me a bit, I'll write you a script which solves it... Is Python fine?
[09:07] <pungi_man> yes
[09:07] <pungi_man> i can run that
[09:07] <gordonjcp> pungi_man: so what is the final goal of this?  What do you want it to do when you're done?
[09:08] <pungi_man> i will make periodic table with swings (java) and when user clicks on any button (element), it will display the data in that file
[09:08] <gordonjcp> yeah, you want a database for that
[09:09] <pungi_man> theadmin, i have some knowledge in python
[09:09] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: database?
[09:09] <theadmin> pungi_man: Ok, mind PM'ing me so I don't lose conversation while writing the script?
[09:09] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: storing all those bits of periodic table
[09:09] <joobie> hmm.. grub2 is stupid. may as well wrap  GUI around the configuration of grub, since they force you to use CLI tools and not edit CFG's directly
[09:10] <Ben64> I added a PPA in 12.04, and I can't find the software that is from the PPA. Is there anything I need to do to make it show up>
[09:10] <pungi_man> gordonjcp, no .... just how to make duplicates of the contents of the file with different file name
[09:10] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: a real database for that?
[09:10] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: yes, of course
[09:10] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: sql or such?
[09:10] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: yes
[09:11] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: for a periodic table
[09:11] <pungi_man> nofame-nogame, gordonjcp i can make it ... but it will be very confusing to load it up with java in the school's computer .....
[09:12] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: well, he wants to look up a bunch of values based on different criteria
[09:12] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: how would you do it?
[09:12] <nofame-nogame> pungi_man: 'm sure you can
[09:13] <gordonjcp> pungi_man: what are the files going to be called? Are they going to have "proper" names, or just something like "file001.txt"
[09:13] <pungi_man> gordonjcp, correct
[09:13] <pungi_man> gordonjcp, proper names like "Hydrogen.element", "Helium.element"
[09:13] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: well if the information is that limited and static i wouldnt set up a dbms thats for sure
[09:13] <pungi_man> *etc.
[09:13] <root____> hellp
[09:14] <pungi_man> nofame-nogame, it will be more confusing to program and I have to study other subjects also
[09:14] <pungi_man> like History and geography and english
[09:15] <pungi_man> the subjects that i hate the most
[09:16] <nofame-nogame> pungi_man: right and such simple task doesnt demand such an approach
[09:16] <nofame-nogame> pungi_man: english or history?
[09:16] <pungi_man> all , nofame-nogame .... the subject I stated above
[09:17] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: why not?
[09:17] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: using a database makes it easy
[09:17] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: overkill
[09:17] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: in what way?
[09:17] <gordonjcp> you've got a database right there
[09:18] <rgenito> any reason why my cron jobs wouldn't execute? =\
[09:18] <gordonjcp> loads of other stuff uses the same database engine
[09:18] <pungi_man> gordonjcp, it requires more programing than just opening files
[09:18] <aidanjt> gordonjcp: the filesystem is already a database
[09:18] <pungi_man> lot more
[09:18] <gordonjcp> rgenito: because they haven't got the bash environment you think they have
[09:18] <aidanjt> and text processing is silly easy, even in C
[09:18] <gordonjcp> pungi_man: you'll need a couple of hundred lines of code to do it with files
[09:18] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: a dbms for a periodic table info??
[09:18] <gordonjcp> and about a tenth of that to do it with a database
[09:18] <pungi_man> i am using java for my project because that in in my syllabus
[09:18] <rgenito> http://pastie.org/private/ogljgbxtgk7dox96wjyrq
[09:19] <rgenito> ^-- my cron tab, and the system time
[09:19] <pungi_man> gordonjcp, no ..... it requires only 2 lines
[09:19] <rgenito> the cron didn't run at 5:17, so i'm guessing that i have my tab row incorrect. any ideas?
[09:19] <gordonjcp> rgenito: you know how cron jobs don't run in the same environment as normal users, so stuff like PATH doesn't exist?
[09:19] <rgenito> gordonjcp: my cron job isn't depending on a bash environment, is it?
[09:20] <rgenito> gordonjcp: did you look at my link?
[09:20] <rgenito> and yes, i do know that.
[09:20] <leaper> Omg
[09:20] <rgenito> i think i'm probably just missing something very obvious... probably due to my lack of sleep =\
[09:20] <leaper> The man who made this server
[09:20] <gordonjcp> rgenito: how will it know where to find "wall"?
[09:20] <leaper> WAS ROBERT HOLMES?
[09:21] <ssta> rgenito: what were you expecting "2/3" to mean?
[09:21] <vivid> rgenito: is 2/3 somehow 5?
[09:21] <rgenito> ssta start the job at 2:17, and then repeat every 3 hours afterwards.
[09:21] <vivid> ssta: hah, exactly what i was thinking
[09:21] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: your periodic table software would require 8gb ram i guess
[09:21] <ssta> rgenito: no.  Do: 2-23/3
[09:21] <aidanjt> HUH?!
[09:21] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: why?
[09:22] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: a database engine is tiny, maybe about 100kB memory footpriint
[09:22] <rgenito> ssta ahh thanks, i didn't know if a range was necessary with /3
[09:22] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: because of other features i cant think of
[09:22] <ssta> rgenito: or: 2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23
[09:23] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: I use a SQL database for tracking radio registrations in a piece of embedded hardware with 256MB of flash and 32MB of RAM
[09:23] <Celeb> NCD
[09:23] <rgenito> ssta earlier gordonjcp mentioned "how will it know where to find 'wall'?", does this suggest that i should always have the full path of an executable in a cron?
[09:23] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: and the database is just about the smallest component
[09:23] <gordonjcp> rgenito: you could try that
[09:23] <ssta> rgenito: probably not.  Try it and see
[09:23] <gordonjcp> rgenito: echo might be a built-in command
[09:23] <gordonjcp> you might need a path, you might not
[09:23] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: you wont get my point
[09:23] <rgenito> ssta: thanks for the "-23" advice; it works just fine now :)
[09:24] <gordonjcp> certainly PATH is not defined
[09:24] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: you're right, I don't
[09:24] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: why would you go down the complicated and error-prone route of creating hundreds of individual files, then working out some way of safely opening them?
[09:24] <Celeb> Hi. Can anyone please help me? I have recently installed Ununtu 12 onto a samsung laptop.  I enabled the psmouse driver protcol, how can i siable it?
[09:25] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: I guarantee with whatever scheme pungi_man comes up with, I'd be able to crack root on any machine it's installed on in about ten seconds
[09:25] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: periodic table info - static info no changes
[09:25] <aidanjt> pungi_man: anyway, your template looks fine, a file per element isn't much text processing or coding really..  I assume you'll create a corresponding object per element?  so it's really just looping over the directory with the elements
[09:25] <Celeb> P.s. i used info from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SamsungSeries9
[09:25] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: what does each one have to do with the other??
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> howto fix this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[09:26] <aidanjt> gordonjcp: it's neither complicated nor error prone
[09:26] <gordonjcp> pungi_man: create a list of the element names in a text file, and do something like "for i in `cat listofelements`; do cp mytemplate $i.element; done
[09:26] <pungi_man> aidanjt, yes
[09:26] <gordonjcp> pungi_man: that'll create your list of files but it won't populate them
[09:26] <gordonjcp> you've got hours of fun with an editor ahead ;-)
[09:27] <gordonjcp> aidanjt: how would you work out which file to open? What happens if you want to add one in the middle?
[09:27] <Ben64> all the information already exists, i'd make something to pull the data and inset it automatically
[09:27] <pungi_man> theadmin made it for me .... thanks a lot ..... i will give you a piece of cake if i get 100/100 in this project
[09:27] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: ?
[09:27] <rgenito> yay cron job works... thanks gordonjcp and ssta :D
[09:28] <aidanjt> gordonjcp: you load them all into memory, there aren't that many elements
[09:28] <aidanjt> or name the file by the element
[09:28] <aidanjt> whichever
[09:28] <theadmin> pungi_man: I don't like cake, but thanks
[09:29] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: ??
[09:29] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: what?
[09:30] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: that rooting part
[09:30] <Celeb> How should I ask a question here :)?
[09:31] <theadmin> Celeb: You just ask it
[09:31] <theadmin> Celeb: With as many details as you know
[09:31] <zolkash> just ask
[09:32] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: input sanitisation
[09:32] <Celeb> Theadmin, thanks! i think I did above, should I wait now?
[09:33] <Ben64> gordonjcp: you're not going to magically get root from bad input on a user's process
[09:33] <aidanjt> gordonjcp: that doesn't make any sense, you have to sanitise inputs for binary databases just as much, more if it's a shared database system
[09:33] <nofame-nogame> gordonjcp: you're really into it
[09:33] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: unless you're *extremely* careful, it's very easy to pass carefully constructed inputs to programs to wander about the filesystem pulling out things like passwords
[09:33] <theadmin> Celeb: I didn't really see it. You might want to repeat yourself every 15 minutes or so (as you can see, this place is very active
[09:33] <gordonjcp> Ben64: please tell me you don't run any webservers
[09:33] <Ben64> i run many webservers
[09:33] <gordonjcp> aidanjt: to an extent
[09:33] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: I get paid a lot of money to be really into it
[09:34] <Celeb> Thanks! Hi. Can anyone please help me? I have recently installed Ununtu 12 onto a samsung laptop.  I enabled the psmouse driver protcol, how can i disable it? I got the info from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SamsungSeries9#Clickpad
[09:34] <gordonjcp> nofame-nogame: I'm not even that good at it; some people I work with will look at the login page of a web app and tell you *exactly* how to 0wn it
[09:34] <leaper> Celebrate:
[09:34] <leaper> Celeb: Random highlight someone talking
[09:34] <gordonjcp> aidanjt: it's a bit easier when you're dealing with databases, for a couple of reasons that I'm quite happy to go into in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:35] <joobie> man i have to say, i normally use RHEL / Centos and it's a whole heap more polished than Ubuntu
[09:35] <Celeb> leaper, mmm :) ?
[09:35] <joobie> ive head endless issues just doing a basic install
[09:35] <leaper> Celeb: This channels like a fog. You gotta always highlight.
[09:35] <gordonjcp> Celeb: hi
[09:35] <Ben64> joobie: if you don't have a support question related to ubuntu, then this is not the correct channel
[09:35] <leaper> Celeb: Sry I cant, I'm a n00b to ubuntu
[09:35] <gordonjcp> Celeb: did you do the bit that says "set the psmouse driver protocol"?
[09:36] <Celeb> Hi, Gordonjcp! I'm new to this, just learning.
[09:36] <theadmin> Ben64: (s)he did ask his question
[09:36] <leaper> All I have is their full body biking suit
[09:36] <joobie> first ubiquity had issues with 3TB? which i overcome.. now grub goes and references my raid5 disk via /dev/disk/by-uuid, when the initramfs doesnt even have /dev/disk/by-uuid
[09:36] <theadmin> Celeb: You can type a few first letters in the nickname and hit Tab to complete it, too. Try: thea<TAB>
[09:36] <Celeb> Yep, I set the protocol, right-click works well, but now the multi-touch is dead, and I'd like to try to get multi-touch back, and then get right-click as well using other ways
[09:36] <Ben64> theadmin: sorry, didn't see any questions in the scrollback
[09:36] <theadmin> Ben64: Was a while ago
[09:36] <gordonjcp> Celeb: okay, so do you understand the implications of the things you typed in that section?
[09:37] <Celeb> thea
[09:37] <joobie> OK I have another grub2 issue - hoping someone can help
[09:37] <Celeb> hm
[09:37] <vivid> joobie: whats your point? ubuntu isnt created for people with raid5 arrays
[09:37] <gordonjcp> vivid: yes it is ;-)
[09:37] <aidanjt> gordonjcp: no, you just do.. a compromised mysql server is just as dangerous as a read-in function loading the wrong file.. security is a problem for every application regardless of data storage methodology
[09:37] <gordonjcp> Celeb: you've created a file called "psmouse.modprobe" that contains an option that will be passed to the mouse driver when it loads
[09:38] <vivid> thats why it goes all dumb down and to the easy
[09:38] <Celeb> implications - a little, I enabled a protocol, which overrode the other drivers?
[09:38] <Celeb> gordon, thank you!
[09:38] <joobie> I just booted a liveCD and edited /etc/default/grub and set the option in there to not use UUID in the disk reference.. i then went through the process and did "update-grub" which has recreated the grub config referencing /dev/mapper to point to the root that way
[09:38] <gordonjcp> aidanjt: please, #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue this
[09:38] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:39] <vivid> joobie: so what was wrong with using UUID? youre not used to it? we do that now because in some situations disk identifiers can change, where UUID does not
[09:39] <joobie> only issue is, it recreated it pointing the root to /dev/mapper/isw_bhediibabe_MAIN2, but when i look at /dev/mapper from the initramfs in busybox, i only see /dev/mapper/isw_hediibabe_MAIN
[09:39] <gordonjcp> Celeb: so if you delete that file /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.modprobe and then reload the driver with something like "rmmod psmouse && modprobe psmouse" it should go back to normal
[09:39] <joobie> sup with that?
[09:39] <gordonjcp> Celeb: if it won't let you rmmod, just reboot
[09:39] <hackeridis> hi all i need help
[09:39] <gordonjcp> Celeb: do you know what "sudo su" does?
[09:39] <vivid> pseudo super user?
[09:39] <Celeb> *sorry* how do i reload the driver after reboot?
[09:39] <theadmin> hackeridis: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[09:39] <joobie> vivid, i'd be happy to use UUID, but the initramfs doesnt have /dev/disk/by-uuid for it to even work
[09:39] <theadmin> Celeb: "modprobe something
[09:39] <hackeridis> sorry
[09:40] <gordonjcp> Celeb: like I said, "rmmod psmouse && modprobe psmouse"
[09:40] <Celeb> sudo su - allows to act as root?
[09:40] <gordonjcp> yup
[09:40] <gordonjcp> so *be very careful*
[09:40] <vivid> joobie: i must be noob because i have no idea what youre talking about....that being said, all of my disks are using UUID and no issues
[09:40] <theadmin> Except uh... You normally use "sudo -i" instead of "sudo su -" and "sudo -s" instead of "sudo su"
[09:40] <Jordan_U> joobie: Linux's FakeRAID support doesn't support GPT. The reason you weren't seeing a /dev/disk/by-uuid/ is that the kernel isn't able to access the partition table, and thus the filesystem (when there are no entries to go in a /dev/disk/by-* the directory isn't created at all).
[09:40] <hackeridis> i have just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and all of a sudden my network connection stopped working
[09:41] <hello2006> @ebs512 dr. geo
[09:41] <Ben64> hackeridis: what happens if you type "ifconfig" in a terminal?
[09:41] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Pardon my misunderstanding, but isn't *fake*RAID = softraid? (s)he has a hardware raid5...
[09:41] <joobie> Jordan_U, ahh.. makes sense
[09:41] <Celeb> can I ask what is the difference b/w the three sudo options? and then I'll be off to fix my touchpad : ]
[09:41] <hello2006> @ebs512 Lybniz Graph Plotter
[09:41] <gordonjcp> Celeb: semantics, mainly
[09:41] <vivid> wait, hardware raid actually exists?
[09:41] <gordonjcp> vivid: yes
[09:41] <hackeridis> i did try to remove the network manager and reinstall it but no luck
[09:42] <joobie> Jordan_U, I have to use GPT though because it's a 3TB virtual disk
[09:42] <joobie> Jordan_U, any work arounds?
[09:42] <vivid> wow, i need to go back to school....again because ive never seen one !
[09:42] <hackeridis> please how can i get the network to work again
[09:42] <Ben64> hackeridis: what happens if you type "ifconfig" in a terminal?
[09:42] <Jordan_U> theadmin: joobie doesn't have hardware raid, if they did it would show up as a normal disk. They have FakeRAID, which is a disk controller that comes with BIOS option ROMS but doesn't actually have any dedicated RAID hardware (it's all done on the CPU).
[09:42] <joobie> theadmin, fakeraid is what a lot of vendors use on their motherboards as "raid" functionality.. it's not real hardware raid, kinda like a sudo software raid
[09:42] <joobie> theadmin, it's different from linux md software raid
[09:42] <vivid> gordonjcp: see, hardware raid is a myth
[09:42] <hackeridis> i see the network cards and everything it just does not connect to anything
[09:43] <Celeb> is there a keyboard shortcut to terminal in u 12?
[09:43] <gordonjcp> fakeraid is the better choice, unless you've got CERN's budget to throw at it
[09:43] <theadmin> Jordan_U, joobie: Oh... My bad, sorry
[09:43] <leaper> I knew a kid who stole my best friend's computer HD
[09:43] <leaper> I'm like
[09:43] <leaper> .w.t.f.
[09:43] <Jordan_U> vivid: Hardware RAID does exist, it's just very expensive and not generally found on Desktop systems.
[09:43] <theadmin> gordonjcp: CERN spends all it's budget on time machines, not raids [/offtopic]
[09:43] <aidanjt> if it's a Linux only system, Linux's software raid is far superior
[09:43] <Ben64> hackeridis: try setting a static ip with the network manager
[09:43] <hackeridis> i see the loopback eth0 and wifi
[09:44] <Celeb> aidanjt, offtopic: i know a guy who's been at CERN this summer
[09:44] <Jordan_U> joobie: Use mdraid (which will require using the alternate or server install CD).
[09:44] <vivid> Jordan_U: yeah theres so many angles to go at that, but then id really be trolling
[09:44] <joobie> Jordan_U, what are my options using fakeraid?
[09:44] <hakongram> hey guys, having problems getting sabnzbd+ to autostart on ubuntu 12.04. I did edit /etc/default/sabnzbdplus and added my username, but still nothing...any ideas?
[09:44] <hackeridis> this is the problem i can not set anything because network manager has a problem i can open network manager but options does not work
[09:45] <theadmin> joobie: Jordan_U is right, use the alternate CD
[09:45] <joobie> Jordan_U, my issue is that i need to use the live cd to install with (using a specific ubuntu build) so i can't use mdraid..
[09:45] <gordonjcp> theadmin: http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/cern/p1040871.jpg <- one corner of the CERN disk farm
[09:45] <hackeridis> i know you are now stumped
[09:45] <Jordan_U> joobie: What is specific about this Ubuntu build?
[09:45] <joobie> seriously, i normally use centos / rhel and it's not so much full of dramas just for a basic install
[09:46] <joobie> Jordan_U, it's a fork from 11.10 - called XMBCbuntu
[09:46] <Jordan_U> joobie: CENTOS and RHEL suffer from the exact same lack of support for GPT on FakeRAID. It's not a distribution specific problem.
[09:46] <hackeridis> well i did also install an older version of network manager ben64
[09:46] <theadmin> joobie: Eh. Use the minimal CD, apt-get install xbmc gdm, you're good to go
[09:46] <joobie> XMBCbuntu only released their build based on the liveCD, no alternate cd
[09:46] <hackeridis> but still no luck
[09:46] <Ben64> hackeridis: do you know network details for your network?
[09:47] <hackeridis> i can not even connect to my router modem
[09:47] <joobie> Jordan_U, maybe, but CENTOS / RHEL allow you to use mdraid on all installation build variants
[09:47] <joobie> Jordan_U, I can't comprehend why Ubuntu would exclude mdraid from their livecd installer
[09:47] <hackeridis> of course it is the standard setup 192.168.1.1 for the router
[09:47] <hackeridis> i can not even connect to that through the insternet
[09:48] <joobie> theadmin, i'm using this box just for XBMC and I hear that XBMCbuntu has some very specific versioning in play on the Ubuntu fork they have.. hence why i thought i'd go down that route
[09:48] <Ben64> hackeridis: try setting the ip manually in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:48] <hackeridis> got holdon
[09:48] <hackeridis> got will set now
[09:48] <Celeb> Hm, i've found etc/.... folder - how can i gain access to change those files?
[09:48] <aidanjt> joobie: if it's going to be running all the time, then why fakeraid?
[09:49] <Ben64> hackeridis: something like this - http://pastie.org/4650043
[09:49] <joobie> Jordan_U, so FakeRaid still requires some sort of special driver installed in order for the OS to access the virtual disk? I thought fakeraid just presented a virtual disk to the OS, but it was using CPU overhead to perform the RAID
[09:49] <joobie> aidanjt, just for data protection.. i have 4 x 3TB in there and want some sort of redundancy
[09:49] <hackeridis> everything is set to dhcp
[09:50] <hackeridis> auto lo
[09:50] <hackeridis> and auto wlan2
[09:50] <hackeridis> but ethernet is not in the list
[09:50] <aidanjt> joobie: ok, but you don't need fakeraid to get reliable and well supported RAID on Linux, Linux has its own software RAID solution
[09:50] <Jordan_U> joobie: The OS just sees a bunch of disks with certain meta data (contents on the disk). The bootloader sees the array as a normal disk due to the option ROM, but that's not hardware.
[09:50] <hackeridis> eth0
[09:51] <hackeridis> no site connection will try now
[09:51] <Jordan_U> joobie: It's almost certainly going to be easier to just install Ubuntu 12.04 (which is a long term support release, in addition to just being newer than 11.10 and thus a better choice) and get XBMC working than to try to get ubiquity (the desktop installer) to install to GPT over FakeRAID or mdraid. In addition, this channel doesn't actually support unofficial derivitives of Ubuntu.
[09:51] <joobie> Jordan_U, ahh I see
[09:51] <Celeb> Please, quick question: how can i change files in the system folders?
[09:51] <hackeridis> under iface wlan2 inet dhcp
[09:52] <aidanjt> Celeb: sudo $editor $file
[09:52] <dilip> Hi I just installed the ubutnu 11.10 on my pc with dual mode with windows 7 the wifi i am using is good on windows but it is very slow on ubuntu please any help
[09:52] <Celeb> Thank you!
[09:52] <joobie> Jordan_U, yea.. when i saw that Ubuntu has v12 released I was questioning if XBMCbuntu was the right route.. made me think that they might trail behind in terms of security
[09:53] <Makdaam> how can I find out more about my X server touchpad driver?
[09:53] <joobie> aidanjt, long story - but in a nutshell i'm using a fork of Ubuntu known as XBMCbuntu, which is only released based on the Ubuntu Live CD.. Ubuntun Live CD doesn't support mdraid.
[09:54] <dilip> I just installed the ubutnu 11.10 on my pc with dual mode with windows 7 the wifi i am using is good on windows but it is very slow on ubuntu please any help
[09:54] <joobie> Jordan_U, when you say long term support release, how long?
[09:54] <Jordan_U> joobie: 5 years.
[09:54] <aidanjt> joobie: yeah, you can use mdadm to create the RAID instead, it's far more reliable and better supported by the kernel
[09:54] <joobie> thanks
[09:54] <Jordan_U> joobie: You're welcome.
[09:55] <joobie> I think i will go down the route you suggested of Ubuntu 12
[09:55] <hackeridis> sorry for the wait no does not work
[09:55] <aidanjt> joobie: you wont miss much anyway, you can still install xbmc on ubuntu and set it as a default session
[09:55] <joobie> I feel like i'm pushing shit up a hill with XBMCbuntu
[09:56] <joobie> aidanjt, yer.. just wanted to really stick with versioning that i know is well supported
[09:56] <aidanjt> *nod*
[09:56] <joobie> I used to run MythTV years ago under fedora and the amount of packages that are involved to make that work is crazy, versioning was a big issue back then
[09:57] <joobie> i'm trying to avoid that as I go down this XBMC route
[09:57] <hackeridis> i can select my network but still does not connect plus have a problem the is no icon for network settings in the top right corner
[09:58] <hackeridis> tell you the truth it looks to me that 11.10 was a lot better than 12.04
[09:59] <joobie> Jordan_U, aidanjt, so given this is pretty much for XBMC, should i go with the Ubuntu alternate or the server?
[09:59] <joobie> .. what's really the diff between the two?
[10:00] <aidanjt> joobie: server wont give you a graphical environment, you'll have to install that yourself.. the ubuntu-alternative disc will give you a desktop to work with
[10:00] <hackeridis> in networkmanager.conf  i have dns=dnsmasq
[10:00] <Jordan_U> joobie: Alternate. The difference is the packages which will be installed if you select all default options, and the packages contained in the iso itself (you can select other packages during installation, which will be downloaded from the internet).
[10:01] <joobie> ahh cheers
[10:01] <joobie> not to toot another distro's horn, but rather to throw another spin on these different versions of Ubuntu
[10:02] <joobie> the way Centos do this is they provide the one installer and have different install builds, so you select "Server" or "Minimal" or "Desktop" and it installs the packages accordingly.. Rather than have 3 seperate images
[10:02] <joobie> sounds like a cleaner way to do things if it's just a package pre-selection which is the difference between the builds
[10:03] <ikonia> it's not how it's done, so commenting on it is pointless
[10:03] <hackeridis> i have no network in ubuntu 12.04 wired and wifi has the problem
[10:03] <aidanjt> joobie: I know, I find it's a bit of a nuisance as well, but it's not done like that so we make do
[10:03] <hackeridis> can anyone help
[10:04] <Powergiant> Hey Guys. I'm having a weird problem with my new laptop. It comes with W7, and I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu. I've shrunk a partition to make room for ubuntu, but when I boot the Live CD the installer (and Gparted) doesn't recognize the partitions. The harddisk is in ahci mode. Any ideas ?   http://i.imgur.com/oGnkx.png &  http://i.imgur.com/LiLs0.png
[10:05] <hackeridis> is there any way i can revert back to ubuntu 11.10 from 12.04
[10:05] <joobie> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads is that the alternate download? The DVD option?
[10:05] <ikonia> hackeridis: no
[10:05] <ikonia> joobie: that is not the DVD
[10:05] <aidanjt> hackeridis: not really, reinstalling 11.10 is the only sane way
[10:05] <hackeridis> now that sucks
[10:05] <ikonia> joobie: that is the ncurses based installer
[10:05] <joobie> ikonia, oh.. where is the alternate image?
[10:06] <ikonia> joobie: that is the altnerative image
[10:06] <ikonia> the ncurses based installer is the alternative image
[10:06] <hackeridis> so please can any 1 help me fix my network problem
[10:06] <hackeridis> ubuntu is useless without network
[10:06] <joobie> ikonia, ahh.. so the text based installation is the one i want, which will support mdriad?
[10:07] <joobie> -mdriad+mdraid
[10:07] <diligentdino> !details | hackeridis
[10:07] <joobie> nm got it :)
[10:07] <joobie> thanks
[10:07] <ikonia> joobie: the ncurses based installed is the "alternative" CD image. It will support Linux software raid - it will not support DM raid unless the device's have full linux support
[10:08] <mhahe> for some odd reason chromium isnt downloading files while FF is
[10:09] <mhahe> it starts the DL and then stay at 0.0 MB out of X MB
[10:09] <hackeridis> problem is i can open network manager but can not open options to setup the network i have ubuntu 12.04 and when i open a browser any browser i get the message error 106 err-internet-disconnected
[10:09] <joobie> hmmm .. what would you guys do in this situation.. I have a box with 8GB that i want to primarily use XBMC on. In the future I will use MythTV and maybe Apache on it down the track. Would you go with the 32bit or 64bit, given that XBMC is the primary use and XBMC is supposedly only 32bit compiled (but does work in 64bit)
[10:10] <hackeridis> i can not use wifi or wired net work
[10:10] <joobie> I just read the speel on the download page where it say "
[10:10] <joobie>     Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead." and now i'm thinking twice when i read that "if you need full support for 32-bit code" bit, thinking that 32bit might be better
[10:10] <diligentdino> hackeridis, ifconfig shows what?
[10:10] <ikonia> joobie: ask the xmbc guys for opinions on performance/use/stability
[10:10] <aidanjt> joobie: Ubuntu has 64bit xbmc packages
[10:10] <joobie> but then I guess part of my RAM is not addressable if I go this route yea? or does PAE overcome this
[10:10] <joobie> aidanjt, is it supported as well as the 32bit packages?
[10:11] <hackeridis> it shows all cards wifi and ethernet and loopback
[10:11] <ikonia> joobie: your xmbc application won't be using more than 4GB of ram, so do you really care ?
[10:11] <joobie> ikonia, not for XBMC, but rather for Apache and MythTV and other future use
[10:11] <ikonia> joobie: then re-install for apache/mythtv
[10:11] <mhahe> any idea why chrome wont download files while FF will?
[10:11] <aidanjt> joobie: yeah official ubuntu packages, also 32bit machines are limited to 4GB of RAM, so your other 8GB would be useless without 64bit ubuntu
[10:11] <diligentdino> hackeridis, ok it shows it .. but does it show ip addresses? Can any other internet capable devices get to the internet?
[10:11] <joobie> ikonia, ideally would like to avoid that :)
[10:12] <ikonia> joobie: why ? you're compromising yourself for the sake of an 8 minute install routine
[10:12] <joobie> aidanjt, doesn't PAE overcome that?
[10:12] <ikonia> joobie: use the right tool for the right job,
[10:12] <aidanjt> joobie: only if the CPU supports PAE
[10:12] <aidanjt> and motherboard
[10:12] <hackeridis> no ip addresses
[10:12] <aidanjt> and PAE is slower than native 64bit addressing
[10:12] <diligentdino> hackeridis, can you ping the gateway or other machines on your network?
[10:13] <aidanjt> and ubuntu has 32bit emulation
[10:13] <hackeridis> no
[10:13] <joobie> I read into PAE ages ago.. and now i've somewhat forgotten it. It's essentially creating a virtual map table to address the RAM outside of the 32bit range ya?
[10:13] <aidanjt> joobie: yeah pretty much
[10:13] <hackeridis> network unreachable it says
[10:13] <joobie> so the extra lookups to the virual table are the downside as opposed to straight 64bit?
[10:13] <ikonia> joobie: if you really don't want to instal , just install the 64bit version
[10:13] <ikonia> joobie: you're making a problem where none exists
[10:13] <joobie> ikonia, just trying to run wiht the ideal
[10:14] <joobie> but I guess if aidanjt says that there's good XBMC 64bit support, then ill go this route
[10:14] <ikonia> joobie: right, so 64bit CPU and 8GB of ram = 64bit ideal
[10:14] <hackeridis> try to ping the modem router 192.168.1.1 but no luck
[10:14] <diligentdino> hackeridis, do you have any other machines having issues?
[10:14] <hackeridis> network card and wifi card is ok but the is a problem with output connection
[10:15] <hackeridis> no
[10:15] <hackeridis> it is ubuntu
[10:15] <hackeridis> 12.04 that has the problem
[10:15] <diligentdino> hackeridis, if it was ubuntu there would be a bug. You install has a problem
[10:15] <joobie> hackeridis, I usually disable Network Manager and configure the network manually via the config files
[10:15] <joobie> hackeridis, what's the issue you have?
[10:16] <joobie> I got 8 mins to burn whilst this ISO d/ls :P
[10:16] <diligentdino> hackeridis, have you configured the correct DNS to reach the router? . You can use the router IP address for the gateway/dns
[10:16] <hackeridis> did that and setup the ip manually but no luck
[10:16] <ikonia> you don't configure DNS in 12.04 as it uses dns masq
[10:16] <ikonia> guys, look at it logically, why are you suggesting "ping" tests when his card doesn't have an IP address
[10:17] <ikonia> until his card has a valid IP address, there is no point looking at anything else
[10:17] <joobie> nod
[10:17] <joobie> what does ifconfig show you?
[10:17] <aidanjt> joobie: yeah, I can't think of any downside to 64bit really, just a whole load of upsides.. even if you run upstream 32bit xbmc 64bit ubuntu should be able to handle it
[10:17] <joobie> does the interface appear when you type just ifconfig?
[10:17] <hackeridis> when i click on wifi with in network manager i can see the network and when select it it just says connecting but never connects plus if i click on options nothing happens
[10:17] <joobie> aidanjt, cool :) Thanks
[10:17] <joobie> aidanjt, im downloading 64bit alternate now
[10:18] <hackeridis> plus the icon from the task bar for network is missing
[10:18] <diligentdino> ikonia, You troubleshoot everything touching the problem area..And nobody said ping anything. ..
[10:18] <Powergiant> Hey Guys. I'm having a weird problem with my new laptop. It comes with W7, and I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu. I've shrunk a partition to make room for ubuntu, but when I boot the Live CD the installer (and Gparted) doesn't recognize the partitions. The harddisk is in ahci mode. Any ideas ?   http://i.imgur.com/oGnkx.png &  http://i.imgur.com/LiLs0.png
[10:18] <joobie> hackeridis, screw the GUI, get into the shell :) does ifconfig show you the network interface?
[10:18] <hackeridis> yes
[10:19] <joobie> hackeridis, can you pastebin the ifconfig?
[10:19] <hackeridis> it shows all cards and the lo (loopback)
[10:19] <diligentdino> I love my sunday morning gyro george breakfasts .. yum
[10:19] <hackeridis> will have to copy and paste from the linux laptop hold on a sec
[10:21] <joobie> Powergiant, you are using fdisk in that snapshot on a GPT disk - it doesnt support it
[10:21] <joobie> .. that's why it cant read the partiiton table
[10:21] <joobie> Powergiant, try parted, it should see it
[10:21] <Powergiant> joobie: but gparted, and the installer should be able to see them no?
[10:22] <joobie> oh yea sorry, didnt see that gparted window in the background
[10:22] <diligentdino> I just learned gParted finally... so awesome
[10:22] <joobie> Powergiant, I had some funky issues with GPT and Ubuntu a week or so ago
[10:23] <Powergiant> joobie: any solutions or ideas  ? ;)
[10:23] <joobie> yea sec, trying to find a post
[10:24] <joobie> Powergiant, basically I tried to install Ubuntu on a GPT disk and it failed
[10:25] <joobie> Powergiant, it kept installing and then getting to grub-install and that part failed
[10:25] <joobie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1849445 - go down to the last post in here
[10:25] <ix_> joobie: do you have some special HDD setup?
[10:25] <joobie> once I structured my disk that way, grub-install worked
[10:26] <diligentdino> At random times I lose the ability to control my mouse. The control doesn't come back until I reboot/shutdown. I thought it was because of the monitor going to sleep.. but its happened after i turned that setting off.. Suggestions?
[10:26] <joobie> Powergiant, also have a read of http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=79811 the post from flabdablet - he really drills into GPT and why it can cause these issues.. it's not Ubuntu specific his write-up there but it will help you understand it all a whole lot more
[10:27] <joobie> ix_, no.. just 4  x 3TB HDD
[10:27] <Zaehlas> Is there anyone available that is willing to help troubleshoot dhcp using the new darn isc thing?
[10:27] <aidanjt> Powergiant: try checking the gpt table with gdisk (you might need to sudo apt-get install gdisk first)
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> !ask| Zaehlas
[10:28] <aidanjt> Powergiant: the kernel message log (dmesg) might give some hints as well
[10:28] <joobie> Powergiant, my best it once you mark that partition as bios_grub, it will all work
[10:28] <hackeridis> this is the results from the ifconfig
[10:29] <Reketsu> Can someone help me with a small problem?
[10:29] <islandmonkey> !ask | Reketsu
[10:29] <hackeridis> please accept joobie
[10:29] <Powergiant> joobie: So a format of the harddrive and start over ?
[10:29] <joobie> accept what?
[10:29] <ikonia> !pastebin | hackeridis
[10:29] <Reketsu> Alright my bad im new to IRC
[10:30] <hackeridis> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <Zaehlas> Well, last 5 times or so I just blasted it out, I never get a response...  using new server install with new isc dhcp server.  Patience is not possible because I have 4 hours left to get this up and running and after that I'm screwed or have to spend alot of money on another flight.  I've checked every guide...  all my config files are good, the command runs as it should, no errors in the log files.  I show the syslog showing that it is t
[10:30] <Zaehlas> rying to issue ipaddresses, but the systems don't get anything in response.  iptables is clear at the moment, no other firewalls running
[10:30] <ikonia> hackeridis: that's an empty paste
[10:30] <joobie> Powergiant, I am new to Ubuntu - there might be a better way.. But given that post worked for me and Ubuntu installer started to play nicely when i setup that partition structure - i'd just shuffle around your partitions.. you dont need to reinstall
[10:30] <hackeridis> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr b8:ac:6f:54:15:8a
[10:30] <hackeridis>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[10:30] <hackeridis>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[10:30] <hackeridis>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[10:30] <hackeridis>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[10:30] <hackeridis>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[10:30] <Reketsu> The problem im having is, I program MUD's and recently I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04, Now when i compile my mud (smaug) with my GCC compiler it compiles fine but ta the VERY end of the compile it's like, usr/lib/ld: cannot find -lz
[10:30] <hackeridis>           Interrupt:42 Base address:0x6000
[10:30] <ikonia> hackeridis: NO
[10:30] <hackeridis> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[10:30] <hackeridis>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[10:31] <viddy> you see me pastin' you hatin'
[10:31] <Reketsu> i installed every liblz-dev library i could find
[10:31] <Reketsu> still nothing.
[10:31] <ikonia> viddy: please don't make such pointless comments
[10:31] <viddy> sorry :(
[10:31] <Powergiant> joobie: I only have access to the partitions via Windows at the moment, so I don't think I can't change the boot flag to bios_grub..
[10:31] <islandmonkey> Dear dear dear
[10:32] <aidanjt> Powergiant: even gdisk?
[10:32] <joobie> Powergiant, you already have that 200MB EFI partition.. just boot a liveCD and make sure it is fat32 and set the boot flag on it
[10:32] <joobie> Powergiant,  then just move all ur other partitoins back 1MB to create the bios_boot partition
[10:32] <Reketsu> So can anyoen help me with my problem?
[10:33] <joobie> Powergiant, try gparted live cd
[10:33] <Reketsu> anyone rather*
[10:33] <aidanjt> Reketsu: we can't tell if we can help without knowing the problem
[10:33] <joobie> Powergiant, if windows can see it - im sure some linux variant will be able to
[10:33] <Reketsu> i totally told u the problem..
[10:33] <Reketsu> scroll up.
[10:33] <islandmonkey> aidanjt: It helps if you scroll up
[10:33] <Powergiant> joobie: You think there is a difference between Ubuntu live CD, and the Gparted live cd ?
[10:34] <Mini_Evo> ...
[10:34] <aidanjt> Reketsu: ah right, between the flooded paste noise :P
[10:34] <islandmonkey> Reketsu: Hold on tight, there may be someone here to help
[10:34] <Reketsu> i hope so.
[10:34] <joobie> hackeridis, you don't have an ip address assigned to your eth0 interface..
[10:34] <Reketsu> ive never had this issue with Ubuntu 10.
[10:34] <Reketsu> until i decided to reinstall ubuntu 12.04
[10:35] <Reketsu> so anyone who missed my problem
[10:35] <Reketsu> here is what i said again
[10:35] <KyraYui> how do i register a nick with freenode so i can join other channels (sorry im new to irc and fairly new to linux still)
[10:35] <Reketsu> " The problem im having is, I program MUD's and recently I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04, Now when i compile my mud (smaug) with my GCC compiler it compiles fine but ta the VERY end of the compile it's like, usr/lib/ld: cannot find -lz"
[10:35] <Reketsu> and i've installed EVERY liblz-dev i could find.
[10:35] <hackeridis> not even to wifi
[10:35] <ikonia> Reketsu: you don't just blindly install things.
[10:35] <aidanjt> Reketsu: zlib1g-dev
[10:36] <hackeridis> ifconfig setup hackeridis in pastbin
[10:36] <ikonia> look at what it wants from -lz
[10:36] <joobie> Powergiant, I don't know.. but if you can't see the partition structure from Ubuntu Live CD, that would be my next step
[10:36] <Reketsu> Aid i installed that
[10:36] <ikonia> hackeridis: where ?
[10:36] <Reketsu> still not working.
[10:36] <joobie> Powergiant, or knoppix / sysrescue cd
[10:36] <hackeridis> poster "ifconfig setup hackeridis"
[10:36] <Reketsu> i have zlib1g installed.
[10:36] <Powergiant> joobie: Good point.
[10:37] <ikonia> hackeridis: you need to post the URL
[10:37] <hackeridis> and the thing is i network manager does not let me setup the network
[10:37] <ikonia> hackeridis: you need to post the URL
[10:37] <hackeridis> it will only let me see the network
[10:38] <hackeridis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181184/
[10:38] <joobie> hackeridis, just disable the network manager and use the config files for the interface direct
[10:38] <ikonia> don't disable network manager
[10:38] <joobie> why
[10:38] <ikonia> there is no need to disable network manager at this time
[10:38] <Reketsu> sucks im not on my ubuntu partition atm so i cant even attempt to zero in on the problem.
[10:38] <joobie> the need is to learn to use config files
[10:38] <ikonia> you have no idea of the problem and you're telling him to disable
[10:38] <ikonia> joobie: no, he doesn't need to learn that
[10:38] <joobie> and avoid guis / ncurses wizards
[10:39] <ikonia> joobie: please stop talking nonsense
[10:39] <joobie> it's not nonsense.. he will remain a noob if he sticks to the GUI tools
[10:39] <ikonia> joobie: people can use guis and wizards without issue, it's not a contest on how to be l33t
[10:39] <ikonia> it's someone trying to use a PC on a day to day basis
[10:40] <Zaehlas> Using new server install with new isc dhcp server.    I've checked every guide, almost all are out of date because the new isc dhcp uses different locations for config files.  All my config files are good, the command runs as it should (verified it's listening on the correct interface), no errors in the log files.  I show the syslog showing that it is trying to issue ip addresses, but the systems don't get anything in response.  iptables
[10:40] <ikonia> using a gui doesn't make you a "noob" and please don't call people that, it's not a problem or a bad thing to be a regular average user, or new to ubuntu
[10:40] <Zaehlas> is clear at the moment, no other firewalls running.
[10:40] <joobie> ikonia, it's got nothing to do with being l33t.. when he types ifconfig he'll actually know how to read the output if he stops using Network Manager
[10:40] <hackeridis> what is the command line to dissable networkmanager
[10:40] <vivid> ikonia: dont get trolled
[10:40] <ikonia> joobie: why does he need to not use network manager ?
[10:40] <joobie> ikonia, he doesn't.. he can achieve the same in network manager
[10:40] <ikonia> joobie: right, so why do this
[10:41] <ikonia> joobie: help him fix the problem, rather than disable key services ot his machine.
[10:41] <joobie> ikonia, just personal preference that the GUI limits his ability to learn
[10:41] <ikonia> joobie: he's not looking to learn - he's looking to use his PC
[10:41] <ikonia> it was working - it's now not, fix the problem
[10:41] <islandmonkey> hackerdis: sudo killall NetworkManager (for info at this moment, you just need to look at this argument)
[10:41] <ikonia> this is a joke
[10:41] <ikonia> you're telling someone to kill software with no reason
[10:42] <ikonia> why kill network manager ?
[10:42] <diligentdino> Id like to know why kill the nm as well?
[10:42] <joobie> ikonia, back when I got my first 28.8k modem, it was a modem for china that didn't know our australian dialtones.. i was forced to learn AT commands as a result, and it gave me such a more broad depth of understanding of how the modem worked.. the network manager is much the same, it just limits the ability to learn what is happening under the hood
[10:42] <gry> apparently they're thinking it'll restart itself with probably saner behaviour
[10:42] <ikonia> joobie: I'm not interested in your history lesson - fix the problem for the user,
[10:42] <ikonia> it won't respawn
[10:42] <joobie> ikonia, it's just personal preference - i like to encourage learning under the hood.. especially for linux users
[10:42] <vivid> thats not how you would kill it anyway
[10:42] <ikonia> joobie: right - he's not asking for that
[10:42] <ikonia> joobie: he's asking to get his network card using
[10:42] <ikonia> working
[10:42] <vivid> sudo stop NetworkManager is probably the preferred method
[10:43] <islandmonkey> Or ^, since it's a service
[10:43] <hackeridis> ooops to late just kill the network manager
[10:43] <Reketsu> ill come back later.
[10:44] <joobie> ikonia, if i was to fix his issue anyway, i have only been in the network manager once or twice in my life.. and it wasnt the Ubuntu one.. Disabling it and fixing it in the config files is much quicker for me to assist.. so, i'll keep quiet if you want the GUI fix for him
[10:44] <vivid> hackeridis: you really solve nothing by removing part of the system.....would you remove core components in another operating system?
[10:44] <Zaehlas> I'll be afk a while.  if someone ever bothers to scroll up and be willing to look into my issue, that'd be great.  10-20 minutes...
[10:44] <ikonia> joobie: right, so the answer is "I don't know how to fix or debug this, I'm sorry I can't help"
[10:44] <joobie> vivid, network manager is not a core component, it's a wrapper for a core component known as networking
[10:44] <ikonia> not "let me cripple your machine"
[10:44] <vivid> joobie: and youre a troll....whats your point?
[10:44] <joobie> err, how is disabling network manager crippling the machine?
[10:44] <hackeridis> guys the problem is ubuntu see's the cards but can not reach them to set the cards up and get them to work
[10:45] <joobie> vivid, i'm not a troll.
[10:45] <ikonia> joobie: actually, it's pretty import to ubuntu these days, with the use of things like dnsmasq for DNS resolution, the VPN solution etc.
[10:45] <vivid> joobie: how is not disabling network manager crippling the machine?
[10:45] <islandmonkey> vivid: What evidence do you have for this guy being a troll?
[10:45] <diligentdino> ok ok .. can we stop with the back and forth for this issue. Different strokes for different folks.
[10:45] <vivid> uh the fact that hes clearly trolling
[10:45] <diligentdino> hackeridis,  has a problem with his network and that's what needs to be resolved.
[10:45] <ikonia> vivid: he's not trolling.
[10:45] <ikonia> diligentdino: exactly
[10:45] <hackeridis> ok stop arguing just need to solve this
[10:45] <hackeridis> thanks
[10:45] <vivid> hackeridis: youll have to wait while the big guns troll it out
[10:45] <islandmonkey> vivid: That's not evidence
[10:45] <ikonia> vivid: enough
[10:46] <vivid> enough yourselves, help the guy or go to sleep
[10:46] <diligentdino> hackeridis, you have no network connectivity, you can't get an ip address and none of your other machines are having problems is this correct?
[10:46] <hackeridis> its that i am new to ubuntu and trying to get up to date then i can start to help with systems
[10:47] <hackeridis> yes correct
[10:47] <hackeridis> i am in chat with another machine and the ubuntu 12.04 network is screwed
[10:48] <hackeridis> i have also setup the wifi manually
[10:48] <hackeridis> but still no good
[10:48] <diligentdino> hackeridis, has it ever worked? is this your first install or fresh install I should say?
[10:48] <hackeridis> the problem was after the upgrade
[10:49] <hackeridis> and as soon as i changed the wifi card in the laptop
[10:49] <blucalculator> G'day everyone. i've got a tp-link usb wireless adapter...thing. and the install disk is windows only. what should i do?
[10:49] <diligentdino> hackeridis, you changed hardware?
[10:49] <aidanjt> !wireless | blucalculator
[10:49] <hackeridis> i was using the dell wifi card and then i removed it and install a new intel 5100 card
[10:50] <diligentdino> hackeridis, have you updated your pkgs? I remember a problem with some types of drivers having to be blacklisted to work correctly with the new drivers
[10:50] <dos000> how do i get a shell with apt-get install working when i boot on the alternate cd ?
[10:50] <hackeridis> but dont forget that the wired connection also has the problem
[10:50] <dos000> is it even possible/supported ?
[10:51] <diligentdino> hackeridis, this sounds like a dns problem if both ifs are having the problem. ikonia said 12.04 uses dns masq which I'm unfamilure with as most of my time has been spent on bsd machines
[10:51] <aidanjt> dos000: hit alt+f2, mount the disk to /mnt, chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[10:52] <hackeridis> i was thinking the same thing
[10:52] <diligentdino> hackeridis, this isn't a fix all .. but can you run a live cd and see if the network capabilities are functioning off the live cd?
[10:53] <hackeridis> yes it does use dnsmasq i saw that in the NetworkManager.conf file
[10:53] <hackeridis> just rebooted and it say waiting for network configuration
[10:54] <diligentdino> hm
[10:54] <Zaehlas> ok, no one seems to be able to help here.  that's ok, I guess...  but I have no time, and I have to get this fixed...  is there another method to get ahold of ubuntu specialists to get my problem fixed personally?  if I have to pay money, so be it...
[10:54] <joobie> lol, love the ncurses wizard on the alternate CD to try detect the keyboard layout :)
[10:54] <bazhang> Zaehlas, canonical has paid support
[10:55] <hackeridis> will have to download the cd now because i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04
[10:55] <bazhang> dos000, are you trying to use the alternate cd as a software source?
[10:55] <Zaehlas> bazhang, best suggest for a fast fix that doesn't require me paying for a long time?
[10:55] <diligentdino> hackeridis, Your best bet at this time is either check back in the channel a little later or start google-ing and see what you can find. I would make backups of your currently configs and start tinkering around with different solutions you find.
[10:55] <bazhang> Zaehlas, fix for what, I've not been following
[10:55] <Zaehlas> isc dhcp
[10:56] <Zaehlas> got it installed, config files good, logs good, it tries to issue addresses but my local network cant see them
[10:56] <bazhang> Zaehlas, need some details
[10:56] <hackeridis> it seems the best bet is to fix dns problem
[10:56] <Zaehlas> even with firewalls all disabled
[10:56] <bazhang> Zaehlas, this is ethernet?
[10:56] <Zaehlas> bazhang what can I blast to a pstebin?   yes..  ethernet..  server has two interfaces
[10:56] <diligentdino> hackeridis, right, but it's machine specific which leads me to believe dnsmasq problems. If that's the case your better off doing what was mentioned above.
[10:57] <hackeridis> thankyou to all of you if i find the problem and solve it i will post
[10:57] <bazhang> Zaehlas, does ifconfig show eth0?
[10:57] <diligentdino> hackeridis, if you resolve the problem and I'm not around can you put it into a pm for me. I'd like to see the outcome
[10:57] <dos000> bazhang: yes and no
[10:57] <Zaehlas> local network hardware working fine, otherwise the local systems would not be able to send the request...  gigabit switch.  prior to upgrade 2 days ago it worked fine
[10:57] <bazhang> Zaehlas, if so try sudo dhclient eth0
[10:57] <dos000> bazhang: if i use the livecd ... i have a full ubuntu shell with apt-get
[10:58] <dos000> bazhang: except that the actual package that i need is not part of the live cd ...
[10:58] <bazhang> dos000, previously you were try ing to use the alternate as a software source?
[10:58] <bekks> Zaehlas: wrong. unless a request is logged to actually reach your server, you cant tell wether the network is working or not. :)
[10:58] <hackeridis> ok diligentdino
[10:58] <Zaehlas> bazhang, hold on a moment, let me paste a couple things to ya
[10:59] <dos000> bazhang: this is what i am thinking of doing now ...
[10:59] <bekks> Zaehlas: Do you use static leases?
[10:59] <dos000> bazhang: boot into livecd ...
[10:59] <dos000> bazhang: and use alternate cd as a package repository (if at all possible )
 dos000: hit alt+f2, mount the disk to /mnt, chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[11:00] <dos000> bazhang: i am imagining i can tell apt to point to the location of my alternate cd
[11:00] <bekks> aidanjt: Thats not sufficient.
[11:01] <dos000> aidanjt: i tried chroot ... without the bin/bash
[11:01] <bekks> aidanjt: You will have no /dev, /sys, /proc in your chroot environment. It will not work correctly.
[11:01] <bazhang> dos000, simply add the alternate cd to your software sources
[11:01] <aidanjt> bekks: why would a live cd not have /dev /sys /proc?
[11:01] <aidanjt> bekks: oh sorry, misread
[11:01] <dos000> aidanjt: bazhang: mmmm
[11:01] <bekks> aidanjt: Because INSIDE that chroot, that will not be available.
[11:02] <bazhang> aidanjt, a chroot is completely unnecessary here
[11:02] <hackeridis> just saw the resolv.conf file and it is empty
[11:02] <aidanjt> bekks: yes I get you now
[11:02] <hackeridis> digi you are on to something with the dns
[11:02] <dos000> so the only option is to tell apt where the alternate cd is located
[11:02] <ikonia> hackeridis: does your network card have an IP address yet ?
[11:02] <hackeridis> no
[11:03] <ikonia> hackeridis: right - so why are you looking at DNS
[11:03] <bazhang> dos000, add it to software sources
[11:03] <bekks> hackeridis: How did you check that?
[11:03] <ikonia> hackeridis: there is no point doing anything else, until your card has a valid IP address
[11:03] <ikonia> hackeridis: as I told you earlier - anything else is worthless until your card has a valid IP address
[11:03] <hackeridis> went to system etc/resolv.conf
[11:03] <ikonia> no
[11:04] <ikonia> ifconfig shows you your card has no ip address
[11:04] <hackeridis> opened it and it was empty
[11:04] <ikonia> you showed me that earlier
[11:04] <ikonia> reoslv.conf is not for your IP addres
[11:04] <ikonia> address
[11:04] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <bekks> hackeridis: In /etc/resolv.conf you will not see wether your card has an IP or not.
[11:04] <Zaehlas> bazhang, sorry for delay...  here's a BUNCH of stuff: http://pastebin.com/ZC3pHGhA
[11:04] <bekks> hackeridis: As ikonia told you, just use ifconfig
[11:04] <dos000> bazhang: i just need to point /etc/apt/sources.list to the /alternate-root-dir correct ?
[11:05] <bazhang> dos000, add it to the sources.list
[11:05] <hackeridis> and here is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181184/
[11:05] <ikonia> hackeridis: so no IP address as I said earlier
[11:07] <strangleynormal> Hey there, I'm trying to setup a domain using OpenLDAP. However all the tutorials are for the old slapd.conf. Does anybody know a tutorial using cn=config?
[11:08] <fox__> c'est bien le channel francais de ubuntu ?
[11:09] <Multbrelch> no
[11:09] <bazhang> fox__, #ubuntu-fr
[11:09] <fox__> Thank
[11:09] <fox__> #ubuntu-fr
[11:09] <bazhang> try /join
[11:09] <fox__> try /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:10] <Multbrelch> without try
[11:10] <Multbrelch> sans (!) try
[11:11] <Multbrelch> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> fox__  type /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:11] <strangleynormal> he made it.. ;-)
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[11:11] <Multbrelch> hehe
[11:12] <Zaehlas> bazhang, was afk a minute on the phone.   I pasted the results of several config files, my dhcp process and log of the reciept of dhcp request above.  any idea why my other systems are not getting anything?
[11:13] <dos000> bazhang: i need only one pkg chntpw ... can i just install it using dpkg if i drop the deb file on the usb of the live cd ??
[11:13] <bazhang> dos000, what about just getting it from packages.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <dos000> bazhang: the machine does not have internet access !
[11:14] <bekks> chntpw on a box booting from a livecd only? :)
[11:14] <bazhang> dos000, on a machine that does
[11:14] <dos000> bazhang: thats what i am doing now ... but i am not sure if i need other dependencies
[11:15] <bazhang> dos000, the packages site will list them
[11:16] <dos000> bazhang: libc6 and libgcrypt11(only)
[11:16] <blucalculator> @aidanjt i tried to follow the wireless documentation on that page, but the information for USB wireless is severely lacking
[11:17] <dos000> bazhang: can i expect these to be in the livecd ?
[11:18] <L1> I'm about to install ubuntu/win7 on my SSD. Which things from Ubuntu should be on my SSD, and which should be on my regular HDD? / and /home will be on my SSD (data storage on regular HDD symlink to /home). What about my swap partition? And /var? I have heard the tmp directory should be in a ramdisk. Any advice?
[11:18] <bekks> L1: Just do a regular install. And /home on a SSD is wasting space of the SSD.
[11:19] <dos000> bazhang: darn ... i might as well just copy the darn alternate cd !
[11:19] <aidanjt> blucalculator: USB is just a device connector, as long as the kernel has drivers for the device wireless works all the same
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> !partition > L1
[11:19] <Zaehlas> bazhang, I've checked into paid support...  2 days before I get a response and they want an entire year of support, not one phone call...    I really need help from anyone else if they can give me an idea on how to troubleshoot this dhcp issue.  I have to be at the airport in 3 hours.  and my entire network is down, and I've been banging my head against this for two days now
[11:19] <dos000> bazhang: bekks: aidanjt: thanks a lot for your great support guys !
[11:19] <KyraYui> im still fairly new to linux but i was wondering what is the best distribution for desktop customization?
[11:19] <lukjad007> Hi guys, I upgraded Ubuntu by clicking "upgrade ubuntu" and now at boot grub gives the error "error: no such partition"
[11:20] <L1> bekks, MonkeyDust, thanks. the partitioning wiki page doesn't mention much to do with SSDs specifically though
[11:20] <bekks> KyraYui: Which answer besides "Ubuntu" do you expect? :)
[11:20] <t432> a folder in my home dir just disappeared
[11:20] <lukjad007> I had booted to a live CD, updated Grub and then it worked...until the next reboot where it happened again.
[11:20] <t432> whats going on?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> KyraYui: are you maybe confusing desktop environments?
[11:20] <bekks> t432: We dont know with a vague description like that. :)
[11:21] <t432> well... i had a folder containing importnts docs in my home dir, after rebooting i no longer see this folder!
[11:21] <Zaehlas> is there an alternate channel that may have someone willing to look into server issues?  I can't bring up a room list.
[11:21] <dos000> i remember there was a way to tell apt-get to install from a specific root ... cant remember now
[11:22] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[11:22] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server|dos000
[11:22] <arianna> sorry to the person that pmd me my client crashed and i didnt get a chance to read your message can you resend it
[11:22] <cfhowlett> dos000: #ubuntu-server
[11:22] <cfhowlett> Lunar_Lamp: greetings
[11:22] <Zaehlas> I'll try there, last I remember no one there though
[11:22] <cfhowlett> t432: do you only have a single user account on your computer?
[11:22] <dr_willis> look in /lost+found yet  t432 ?
[11:22] <t432> cfhowlett: i have a couple
[11:22] <Lunar_Lander> today I got a support question
[11:23] <Lunar_Lander> how do I uninstall OpenJDK?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> t432: sure you're looking the right /home
[11:23] <cfhowlett> ?
[11:23] <t432> ah i have, its in rubbish bin
[11:23] <t432> probably deleted by accident
[11:23] <t432> i have it*
[11:24] <t432> that will be all for now folks!
[11:24] <lukjad007> So, can anyone help me with my Grub issue?
[11:25] <dos000> how can i tell which packages are inthe alternate cd ???
[11:25] <aidanjt> L1: the default partitioning will already be aligned, ext4 supports trim already so all you really need to do is add 'discard' to the root partition options in /etc/fstab
[11:25] <L1> aidanjt: Thanks
[11:26] <KyraYui> so to the person that pmd me about custimizable distributions could you please resend the message my client crashed ... sorry
[11:27] <dr_willis> KyraYui: they are all customizable to some degree.
[11:28] <azizLIGHTS> how much space needed for ubuntu 12.04.1 server in a vm image?
[11:28] <azizLIGHTS> how much space to install ubuntu
[11:28] <ivo_> 5gb
[11:28] <bekks> azizLIGHTS: The default installation is less than 1GB.
[11:28] <Lunar_Lander> how do I uninstall OpenJDK?
[11:28] <ivo_> no it is not
[11:28] <bekks> ivo_: It is. :)
[11:28] <ivo_> it is ~5gb
[11:28] <bekks> Nope. :)
[11:29] <cfhowlett> ivo_: default SERVER is lighter than default desktop
[11:29] <ivo_> 01.09.2012  23:07     4.740.648.960 Ubuntu.vdi
[11:29] <bekks> The server iso isnt ~5GB, it fits on a regular cdrom ISO. And it does not expand to more than 1000%.
[11:29] <dr_willis> server is less then the deaktop.. and ive gotten desktop to install to a 4gb flash..
[11:29] <bekks> ivo_: Thats the size of your VDI file, NOT the space thats used inside.
[11:29] <dr_willis> barely.. ;)
[11:29] <azizLIGHTS> im just going to install postgresql and fool around on it. so how much space? 2gb?
[11:29] <azizLIGHTS> i am limited by hdd space on the host
[11:30] <bekks> azizLIGHTS: So how much space do you have on your host?
[11:30] <dos000> where is the list of all the packages  that come in the alternate cd ?
[11:30] <azizLIGHTS> bekks: 3 gb left out of 140gb
[11:30] <bekks> azizLIGHTS: Then clean up first :)
[11:30] <cfhowlett> dos000: it's the same packages as the desktop, just a different installation presentation.
[11:31] <dos000> cfhowlett: darn ... someone told me they had more packages than the desktop
[11:31] <lukjad007> Is anyone here able to help me with my Grub issue?
[11:31] <dr_willis> dos000: nope
[11:32] <diligentdino> !ask| lukjad007
[11:32] <dos000> cfhowlett: i need to find if chntpw is part of desktop/alternate
[11:32] <cfhowlett> dos000: for the most complete packages in one iso, get the DVD
[11:32] <dr_willis> dos000:  and that command does what?
[11:32] <dos000> cfhowlett: darn .... :-( i wasted tons of hours downloading the 700 meg cd
[11:32] <Lunar_Lander> how do I uninstall OpenJDK or will they roll out the security update for that soon?
[11:33] <dos000> dr_willis: ?
[11:33] <dr_willis> !find chntpw
[11:33] <dr_willis> !info chntpw
[11:33] <cfhowlett> dos000: chntpw is in the universe repository.  easily obtained.
[11:33] <dr_willis> doubt if will be insta;led by default on any of the ubuntus
[11:34] <dos000> cfhowlett: the prob is if it has dependencies not present in the livecd
[11:34] <WarOfTheNerd> Lunar_Lamp, why uninstall it?  Why not just disable the plugin?
[11:34] <dr_willis> bot live cd.. install that tool.. done
[11:34] <WarOfTheNerd> Lunar_Lamp, also it was patched ages ago for OpenJDK
[11:34] <dos000> dr_willis: yes .. the prob is the machine does not have net access :-(
[11:35] <hackeridis> wired i can now ping the modem router but can not connect to the internet
[11:35] <dr_willis> its 149k.. download it to flash perhaps
[11:35] <lukjad007> I upgraded Ubuntu by clicking "upgrade ubuntu" and now at boot grub gives the error "error: no such partition" I had booted to a live CD, updated Grub and then it worked...until the next reboot where it happened again.
[11:35] <dr_willis> oops 49k
[11:35] <usr13> hackeridis: route -n  #What does that say?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> dos000: for offline package install:   http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/04/offline-update-ubuntu.html
[11:35] <hackeridis> hold on
[11:36] <usr13> !grub lukjad007
[11:37] <dos000> cfhowlett: synaptic is not part of 12.04 livecd :-(
[11:37] <gry> !grub | lukjad007
[11:37] <dr_willis> apt-get is dos000
[11:38] <gyre008> what happens if there are 2 PCs on the network with the same MAC address ? Im asking because Im creating a bunch of virtual servers and have to generate random Mac addresses for them but if the newly generated Mac is the same as the one on the network what happens ?
[11:38] <gyre008> anyone idea ?
[11:38] <dos000> dr_willis: how do i tell apt-get to just generate a script ?
[11:38] <ikonia> gyre008: you won't hit that problem
[11:38] <Walther> gyre008: don't make them random, sequence them or something
[11:38] <dr_willis> no idea dos000 al my pcs got network accesa
[11:38] <gyre008> ikonia, how do you know ? :)
[11:38] <nalT> gyre008: that won't happen
[11:38] <gry> gyre008: don't random generate mac addresses; they must be unique and a things won't work otherwise
[11:39] <dos000> dr_willis: thanks dude
[11:39] <gyre008> I'm asking to understand what might happen
[11:39] <ikonia> gyre008: 52:54:00:c9:ec:94 - an example mac, what are the odds of you hitting that combination of 12 chars of alpha numerica chars
[11:39] <ikonia> gyre008: depends on your network setup and design,
[11:39] <ikonia> could be nothing, could be the same as a duplicate IP address
[11:39] <gyre008> ikonia, small odds but not impossible
[11:39] <ikonia> (bottom line)
[11:39] <gyre008> just want to know the symptoms...
[11:40] <ikonia> gyre008: a.) impossible if you set it seqentially b.) not going to happen
[11:40] <gyre008> thats it
[11:40] <WarOfTheNerd> gyre007, things like DHCP reservation break
[11:40] <WarOfTheNerd> gyre008*
[11:40] <nalT> statistical probability of two random mac addresses being identical?
[11:40] <dr_willis> pcs may explode..  small oods..
[11:40] <usr13> dos000: Why can't you just hook it up to the net?
[11:40] <rypervenche> gyre008: One in 16 to the 10th power chance of it happening.
[11:40] <WarOfTheNerd> nalT, happened to me
[11:40] <gyre008> WarOfTheNerd, so the VM won't be assigned the IP
[11:40] <hackeridis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181285/
[11:40] <WarOfTheNerd> gyre008, you need to use static addressing if you have any identical MAC addresses
[11:40] <ikonia> gyre008: it depends on your network setup as I said
[11:40] <gyre008> i know the probability is extremely small but it CAN happen
[11:41] <ikonia> gyre008: however as it won't happen.....don't worry about it
[11:41] <nalT> WarOfTheNerd you broke the universe.
[11:41] <ikonia> gyre008: if you do have a problem - just ask
[11:41] <nalT> sequence them then
[11:41] <WarOfTheNerd> gyre008, it has happened to me once, identical cards by identical manufacturer
[11:41] <hackeridis> in the above i have included the ifconfig
[11:41] <gyre008> ikonia, I have a KVM hypervisor and I'm bridging VMs to it…VMs have DHCP set
[11:41] <usr13> hackeridis: sudo dhclient eth0
[11:41] <ikonia> gyre008: again, don't worry about it, if you have a problem, just ask
[11:41] <dos000> whats the command line to start synaptic package manager ?
[11:42] <gyre008> ikonia, ;) i want to be prepared and not run here when i have a problem haha
[11:42] <usr13> hackeridis: Does the router have DHCP server turned on?
[11:42] <WarOfTheNerd> dos000, gksudo synaptic
[11:42] <dos000> WarOfTheNerd: thanks man
[11:42] <ikonia> gyre008: you're not going to be prepared....it won't happen, don't waste time, deal with real problems when they happen
[11:42] <gyre008> haha
[11:42] <hackeridis> i get unable to resolve host
[11:42] <ikonia> gyre008: the guys in ##networking will be able to discuss this in more detail if you wish to learn about it
[11:43] <gyre008> yeah i will ask them
[11:43] <usr13> hackeridis: Check the cable? #If the router's DHCP server is turned on, it should have just downloaded IP info.
[11:44] <usr13> hackeridis: But you said you could ping the router?  #ping 192.168.1.1  ?
[11:44] <gyre008> also, if I start assigning VMs static IPs…what happens if I assign a VM an IP which is already on the network ? #imsuchanetworkn00b
[11:44] <ikonia> then it will be an ip conflict
[11:44] <ikonia> again ##networking can help explain the rules of networking
[11:45] <hackeridis> yes i can ping the router
[11:45] <hackeridis> i also get into the router setup
[11:45] <usr13> hackeridis: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.6;route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[11:45] <usr13> hackeridis: host av.com
[11:45] <gyre008> so basically if I'm assigning IPs I should have some sort ofIP discovery tool which will be checking IPs on that segment and if they're not available then I can use them
[11:45] <gyre008> i guess
[11:45] <ikonia> no
[11:46] <usr13> hackeridis: The router is 192.168.1.1 ?  Right?
[11:46] <ikonia> you should be either a.) using dhcp  b.) managing your IP block
[11:46] <hackeridis> yes
[11:46] <ikonia> ##networking can give you lessons/tools/ideas of how to manage IP blocks if you're not confortable with it
[11:46] <usr13> hackeridis: Try the above commands, let us know.
[11:47] <hackeridis> ok
[11:47] <usr13> ikonia: I should tell him to join ##networking  ?
[11:47] <ikonia> usr13: who ?
[11:48] <usr13> ikonia: never mind
[11:48] <ikonia> usr13: I was talking to gyre008
[11:48] <MartijnH> I think I may have a firewall issue with my ipv6 tunnel, but I'm not quite sure how to troubleshoot it.
[11:48] <gyre008> ikonia, if I use DHCP then I have to log on to the server from the Hypervisor, find out what IP it has assigned by DHCP server and THEN I can ssh from any client host…i don't want that…thats why I asked about the static ip stuff
[11:48] <MartijnH> I don't have ipv6 connectivity, ifconfig does display the tunnel
[11:48] <ikonia> gyre008: no you don't
[11:48] <gyre008> anyways will ask there...
[11:48] <g00se> Any expert modes available in installer to let me choose the desktop? Want to use xfce (essentially ending up with xubuntu)
[11:48] <MartijnH> ipv6 addresses do get resolved to an ipv6 address
[11:48] <ikonia> gyre008: you set dhcp to update your internal dns, or just look at the lease file, there are many easier options
[11:48] <hackeridis> operation not permited
[11:49] <ikonia> gyre008: you'll also see a nat or routing rule being added to the firewall
[11:49] <usr13> g00se: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:50] <usr13> hackeridis: sudo
[11:50] <g00se> usr13: Then remove gnome? What's the meta-package for that?
[11:50] <usr13> hackeridis: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.6;sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[11:50] <EweR> if I have to chown for every directory that I want to upload to, then whos the owner by default for dirs? root?
[11:50] <AnDsO> which package do i have to install to get check_snmp plugin :)  anyone replay please
[11:50] <usr13> hackeridis: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[11:51] <usr13> hackeridis: Then:  host av.com  #To see if it works.
[11:51] <hackeridis> yes i did use sudo
[11:51] <g00se> usr13: Removing gnome i'd guess could be quite a hassle
[11:51] <randomtask> Hi guys
[11:51] <usr13> hackeridis: route -n  #What does it say?
[11:51] <hackeridis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181285/
[11:51] <_stars> what is file locking and how does it affect scalability?
[11:52] <soman> >>> Where I can find free disc space amount in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> randomtask: greetings
[11:52] <randomtask> Does anyone here have much knowledge of using Bus Pirates to de-brick WRT54G routers?
[11:52] <usr13> hackeridis: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[11:52] <randomtask> usr13
[11:52] <randomtask> Beyond that I'm afraid :(
[11:52] <randomtask> Can't even ping the router
[11:52] <cfhowlett> randomtask: not really an ubuntu thing.
[11:52] <cfhowlett> randomtask: and IDK
[11:53] <randomtask> I ballsed it up when I flashed over the wrong Openwrt firmware
[11:53] <usr13> randomtask: I dono.  Never bricked one
[11:53] <randomtask> could anyone recommend an IRC channel where I can get help@
[11:53] <hackeridis> i get message file exists
[11:53] <cfhowlett> randomtask: openwrt forums?
[11:53] <usr13> randomtask: /join ##dd-wrt
[11:53] <randomtask> ooo
[11:55] <usr13> hackeridis: host av.com
[11:55] <hackeridis> brb
[11:55] <AnDsO> which package do i have to install to get check_snmp plugin :)  anyone replay please
[11:57] <usr13> hackeridis: Does it work?  route -n  #Will tell you if you have 192.168.1.1 as default gateway.  If so, and it still does not work look at /etc/resolv.conf and see what you have there, let us know.    cat /etc/resolv.conf
[11:57] <Auzy> AnDsO, Easiest way to find out.. apt-cache search I guess..
[11:58] <AnDsO> Auzy:apt-cache check_snmp right?
[12:00] <diamondiss> does file locking happens at thread level or process level?
[12:01] <dr_willis> !find check_snmp
[12:02] <AnDsO> thanx i will check it out
[12:02] <alex285> hello, I want to install a library from another ppa which is older than the current one
[12:03] <alex285> basically is GTK3
[12:03] <foobArrr> why can't I use a folder outside my home dir with ubuntu one?
[12:03] <alex285> join #ubuntu-dev
[12:04] <dr_willis> foobArrr: theres #ubuntu-one thatmay know more.. permissionsofthefolder would bemy guess
[12:05] <myrmidette> what is the simplest way to stream video from ubuntu to ubuntu?
[12:05] <alex285> whats the room for the next Ubuntu release please?
[12:05] <dr_willis> myrmidette: vlc perhaps
[12:05] <gordonjcp> alex285: room where?
[12:06] <alex285> gordonjcp, there is an ubuntu room, for the unstable release (quantal)
[12:06] <alex285> irc room I mean
[12:06] <dr_willis> myrmidette: just a one time thing? or youcan set up some kind of shared videos directory
[12:06] <aidanjt> myrmidette: right click on the folder with the file, share it, and use the network browser to find the target machine
[12:07] <Gargoyle> Can anyone offer any advice on how I go about getting a 32bit version of libstdc++.so.5 on 12.04 64 bit?
[12:07] <dr_willis> #ubuntu+1 alex285
[12:07] <alex285> dr_willis, thank you
[12:08] <foobArrr> dr_willis: permissions are ok. ubuntu one specifically asks for a dir in my home dir. tried joining that channel, "You have been kicked from #ubuntu-one by ChanServ (Invite only channel)". but thanks anyway.
[12:08] <aidanjt> Gargoyle: apt-get install libstdc++5:i386
[12:10] <diamondiss> does file locking happen at thread or process level?
[12:11] <bekks> diamondiss: Depends on the application.
[12:11] <cjjjj> test 1
[12:11] <diamondiss> in my application, each thread will have separate fsuids and perform file read/writes
[12:12] <diamondiss> what happens now?
[12:13] <dr_willis> perhaps its #ubuntuone
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:15] <KM0201> dr_willis: ubuntu-one , forwards to ubuntuone   if i had to guess, he's not identified... cuz i didn't get an invite and i got to both no problem
[12:17] <edyta> Hello everyone, I've got a problem with Ubuntu Tweak. Everytime I reboot my pc the workspace settings backs to default. I'm using show desktop and show windows plugins. Is the someone to help ?
[12:20] <dr_willis> what workspace settings do you mean?
[12:20] <serkan> hello
[12:20] <abaza> hi
[12:21] <diamondiss> how to do thread level file locking?
[12:22] <edyta> When you move your mouse into a corner it should trigger an compiz plugin to work for example "Show Desktop". But everytime I reboot my pc triggers doesn't work.
[12:23] <dr_willis> edyta: try ccsm to enable it
[12:24] <hackeridis> hi i am back
[12:24] <hackeridis> what was the command host you wanted me to type
[12:25] <hackeridis> just got the results for av
[12:25] <BluesKaj> !who | hackeridis
[12:25] <edyta> dr_willis: Thanks, I'm going to try it :) Hope to keep my desktop alive after that.
[12:25] <hackeridis> usr13
[12:26] <aidanjt> diamondiss: just call flock() from inside the thread?  but if you can have multiple threads accessing the same file you're going to have to use some kind of file sharing technique as if you were sharing memory
[12:26] <hackeridis> i see av.com address usr13
[12:39] <g00se> usr13: Then remove gnome? What's the meta-package for that?/
[12:39]  * g00se says sorry for that. And thanks
[12:41] <internetN00b> is there any interesting feature in the next release of Ubuntu?
[12:42] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | internetN00b
[12:43] <hackeridis> hi all i am using 12.04 and i am having problems with the network wired and wifi
[12:43] <bekks> hackeridis: Just be more precise :)
[12:44] <bekks> hackeridis: You broken it down to the point to manually set an IP address today already.
[12:44] <hackeridis> i can connect to the modem and see its setting but i can not connect to any website
[12:45] <bekks> hackeridis: Can you set an IP manually?
[12:45] <bekks> hackeridis: Did you set a valid nameserver too?
[12:45] <hackeridis> no
[12:45] <Ben64> hackeridis: but you said you could see av.com address
[12:45] <hackeridis> yes
[12:45] <bekks> hackeridis: Why not? Why cant you use ifconfig to set an IP address?
[12:46] <hackeridis> the thing is its a laptop and at the moment i can only see the modem using a wired connection
[12:46] <hackeridis> i need wifi
[12:47] <bekks> hackeridis: And why cant you use ifconfig to set an IP address?
[12:47] <bekks> Which wifi chipset do you have?
[12:47] <hackeridis> i see the web address i can set the ip but still can not connect to the internet
[12:48] <hackeridis> plus i can not see the icon in the top left corner for network settings
[12:48] <hapster> any updates on nvidia driver with wayland? Phoronix just released an article on Nvidia working on optimus support. Not sure if it also means wayland support in the near future
[12:48] <bekks> hackeridis: When you see the web address, you are connected to the internet already.
[12:48] <bekks> hackeridis: Which wifi chipset do you have?
[12:48] <hackeridis> intel 5100
[12:49] <hackeridis> i removed the dell wifi card because its usless with aircrack
[12:50] <dr_willis> hapster: so they are now working on optimus support after months of ignoreing the linux devs fighting with it and getting it sort of working. ;)
[12:50] <bekks> hackeridis: You dont need aircrack to connect to your wifi.
[12:50] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:50] <hackeridis> i know i use it to see it and more
[12:51] <hapster> dr_willis: yeah it sucks. But it's still Xorg oriented. Not sure what it will mean for Ubuntu when it jumps ship for Wayland.
[12:51] <bekks> hackeridis: So you deliberately broke a working wifi?
[12:52] <hackeridis> ubuntu 12.04 is not letting me set the network through gui
[12:52] <hackeridis> no it just stop working
[12:52] <bekks> hackeridis: It does. :)
[12:52] <bekks> hackeridis: A lot of people do use that ;)
[12:53] <hackeridis> and as i have read a lot of people have had the same problem with 12.04
[12:53] <HocusPocus> is this the "right" place to ask a Q about Ubuntu install ?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> HocusPocus, ask away
[12:54] <bekks> hackeridis: So which module are you using for your wifi?
[12:55] <HocusPocus> Ok, thank you
[12:55] <Auzy> hackeridis, submit a bug report if you think its a bug..
[12:55] <HocusPocus> So the OS I'm using right now is Win7 (x64)
[12:55] <hackeridis> its a bug but how can i submit it when i have no internet capabilities
[12:56] <bekks> hackeridis: You are talking to us. You have internet capabilities.
[12:56] <hackeridis> on another laptop the laptop with ubuntu problem is next to me
[12:56] <Auzy> hackeridis, It's a bit strange though, if its standard 802.11n wifi..
[12:56] <HocusPocus> I made some space on this 300GB hdd (about 30GB , unformated yet..) and I tryed to install Ubuntu but I didn't hve the courage to go on..
[12:56] <bekks> hackeridis: Still, you have internet capabilities.
[12:56] <bekks> HocusPocus: Please ask your question finally.
[12:57] <xcon> hi, compiling amarok 2.6 on ubuntu 12.04 and getting the following in make: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwrap      (what does this mean?)
[12:57] <hackeridis> no not on ubuntu 12.04 and i am using wired and forget about wifi thats worse its easier to fix wired first
[12:57] <Auzy> hackeridis, you could put that computer into bridge mode to ethernet..
[12:58] <hackeridis> network manager does not work
[12:58] <bekks> hackeridis: You HAVE internet, so submit a bug report if you think it is a bug.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> HocusPocus, what's holding you back ?
[12:59] <HocusPocus> There is a free 30GB partition. I boot the live CD and When I click on install I get three options (radio buttons) 1- install alongside win7  2 - ? and 3 - manual combination
[12:59] <Auzy> hackeridis, Type sudo dhclient eth0 into terminal then..
[12:59] <hackeridis> how i do not have internet on the ubuntu machine how many times do i have to say it
[12:59] <bekks> hackeridis: You ARE typing with us. So you HAVE internet.
[12:59] <HocusPocus> Why Ubuntu does not "smell" that empty 30GB partition and tries to install itself on it ?
[12:59] <ero-jiji> just a quick question, is there a hard limit on the number of remote desktop sessions ubuntu 12.04LTS can handle, or is it only limited by the hardware and network connection?
[13:00] <bekks> HocusPocus: So you ARE able to submit a bug report.
[13:00] <hackeridis> i have 2 laptops 1 with windows which is working and the other with ubuntu which is not working
[13:00] <Auzy> hackeridis, 1) Either from your laptop.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs   2) use sudo dhclient eth0, and ethernet will work
[13:00] <bekks> hackeridis: And why cant you submit a bug report from your second laptop?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> HocusPocus, install alongside W7 is your bewst choice if your not familiar with manual partitioning
[13:01] <hackeridis> it says file exists
[13:01] <bekks> hackeridis: It also tells you WHICH file...
[13:01] <Auzy> oh no.. he is right.. happens on mine too..
[13:02] <HocusPocus> ok so your suggestion - the criticized "alongside" install.  Thank uou
[13:02] <uilp> how to include lib file during compiling  files with make command . My library files are in /usr/lib and my current location of makefile is ~/desktop/X .Please help me .I'm using ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit and i already installed build-essential
[13:03] <BluesKaj> HocusPocus, also make sure you backup any important data on windows
[13:03] <hackeridis> that worked thanks
[13:03] <hackeridis> will be sending bug reports
[13:03] <hackeridis> the sudo dhclient eth0 worked
[13:03] <HocusPocus> Thank you. I will read more.
[13:04] <Auzy> it didn't for me.. But, thats good hackeridis..
[13:05] <hackeridis> well i tried wifi and it came back with unable to resolve host
[13:05] <bekks> Then create a valid entry in your /etc/resolv.conf
[13:05] <bekks> AFTER checking you have a valid IP on your wifi interface.
[13:08] <anddam> I'm on an updated 12.04, suddenly I cannot hear anymore audio from chromium-browser, other programs do rok as expected
[13:09] <Auzy> anddam, Audio in flash?
[13:09] <anddam> the issue is not flash-plugin related or so, an mpeg4 video doesn't have sound as well
[13:09] <anddam> Auzy: yes, altough I'm not sure to understand the extent of th equestion
[13:09] <Auzy> well.. you just answered.. if its only flash, you have to unmute..
[13:10] <anddam> Auzy: "is not flash-plugin related"
[13:10] <Auzy> Yeah.. I know.. you just said
[13:11] <Auzy> no idea personally
[13:11] <Walther> Is there a way to disable bluetooth by default?
[13:11] <Sidewinder1> HocusPocus, You mention "criticized", then alongside; I suspect that is referring to WUBI; which, IMHO should be criticized but not confused with true dual boot. I've been dual booting since 2007 with no problems and I highly recommend it; along with plenty of research so that you know what you're doing. :-)
[13:11] <hackeridis> i will be using irc in ubuntu in a few min
[13:13] <hackeridis_> hi
[13:13] <Auzy> When I tried Wubi.. It didn't work for me actually..
[13:13] <hackeridis_> i am now using from ubuntu thanks guys
[13:14] <Auzy> still too hard though hackeridis though.. you should post a bug report
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> WUBI's primary thrust is to TRY ubuntu, from within the windows environment; it was never intended for long term use.
[13:15] <Auzy> Yeah.. For me though.. just saying, it wouldn't boot..
[13:16] <Sidewinder1> Auzy, That was probably a good thing. ;-)
[13:16] <Walther> IMHO the wubi installer should definitely be improved
[13:16] <Walther> most laypeople don't know their way into BIOS
[13:16] <Walther> or if they do, it's a bit scary
[13:16] <Auzy> I boot direct now anyway.. but honestly, I'd prefer they dumped Wubi and offered Virtualbox instead..
[13:17] <bekks> Wubi should be extincted :)
[13:17] <BluesKaj> wubi is ok for trying ubuntu , but i wouldn't use it as a second OS for any long period
[13:17] <Walther> Wubi in its current state should be extincted, as it causes so much problems. It should be *fixed*
[13:18] <Auzy> I dunno if it should.. There are more important things in Ubuntu to fix.. like the fact that you still can't automount SMB shares easily from the GUI yet on boot..
[13:18] <AnDsO> i think wubi is awsome invention so the windows users can explore and learn linux
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' BluesKaj  I was wondering if you would chime in on wubi.. :-)
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> AnDsO, Agreed.
[13:19] <AnDsO> :)
[13:19] <BluesKaj> AnDsO, awesome only lasts for a little while
[13:19] <BluesKaj> hey Sidewinder1 :)
[13:19] <Auzy> What advantages does Wubi offer over Virtualbox these days though? Its a bit faster, but, it either has to work all the time, or not be included at all.. for me, if I wasn't a long term linux user, it wouldn't have left a good impression..
[13:20] <AnDsO> all linux product should contain this type of software coz more people still dont trust linux they afraid to install fresh copy :(
[13:20] <anddam> Auzy: seems you were right anyway, in Sound > Applications the Chromium volume was nearly zero
[13:20] <ero-jiji> sorry if i missed a reply, phone rang right after i asked, is there a hard limit on the number of remote desktop sessions ubuntu 12.04LTS can handle, or is it only limited by the hardware and network connection?
[13:20] <anddam> I didn't know there are application-specific volume levels
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm > Auzy
[13:21] <Auzy> MonkeyDust, I am one of the top, if not the top contributor on Brainstorm..
[13:21] <brainiarc7> How does one compile and install Mesa 8.0.4 in Ubuntu 12.04LTS? Follower the instructions on intellinuxgraphics.org and when done, glxinfo still indicates the distribution version (Mesa 8.0.2)
[13:21] <BluesKaj> odd , the same ppl probly run around doing their daily business with smartphones running android , but afraid of linux ? ...makes no sense to me  :P
[13:22] <satyanash> sup
[13:22] <ero-jiji> sorry if i missed a reply, phone rang right after i asked, is there a hard limit on the number of remote desktop sessions ubuntu 12.04LTS can handle, or is it only limited by the hardware and network connection?
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> Auzy  great, the linuxhaters blog gives developers an idea, too, of what needs to be done
[13:23] <AnDsO> simply they dont know bro thats the fact i mdo agree that they trust android mac buggy windows but not awsome ubuntu or fedora slackware etc.. ZZZzz
[13:23] <Auzy> BluesKaj, Linux does still have some usability problems.. It is fair.. People may not like to hear it, but thats the truth.  Android uses the kernel, but uses a completely different environment.. It all comes down to the environment...
[13:24] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, When the world starts to make sense, watch out.
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> like "stop making sense!"
[13:24] <AnDsO> linux desktop editions now have to respond fast to windows 8 touch ability :(
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Auzy, most ppl don't think about the "environment" as you call it , they just want it to work , and linux has become a boogeyman OS due to horror stories about hardware problems and purist OSs like gentoo for example
[13:27] <BluesKaj> anyway that's my thought for the day :)
[13:28] <AnDsO> Blueskaj: I dont agree completely the softwares like openoffice is not evn close to microsoft office i think
[13:28] <ero-jiji> is there a hard limit on the number of remote desktop sessions ubuntu 12.04LTS can handle, or is it only limited by the hardware and network connection?
[13:28] <BOSS> hi all
[13:28] <AnDsO> halo
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> ero-jiji, I don't know but I'd suspect the latter.
[13:29] <ero-jiji> thats what im thinking as well, but i need to be sure before i send this poweredge server off to be colo'd
[13:30] <BOSS> instal script o Xchat ? globalfind ?
[13:30] <BOSS> install script on Xchat ? globalfind ?
[13:30] <Auzy> BluesKaj, well.. there are hardware problems.. What really needs to be done though, is Canonical should start a campaign though for people to donate the money they would spend on Windows 8, on Linux donations instead.. if enough people did it, it would greatly propel Linux forward..
[13:30] <Auzy> but anyway.. wrong channel for that
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Auzy, well, i don't agree with the direction canonical is taking the ubuntu desktop , so I'll hang on to my cash :)
[13:31] <uilp> can any one help me .Please !
[13:32] <Walther> !ask | uilp
[13:32] <veryape> !patience
[13:32] <Auzy> BluesKaj, I donated to KDE and Gnome.. At the very least, I use a lot of Gnome apps, but, I like what KDE has been doing to their desktop..
[13:32] <uilp> Walther: how to include lib file during compiling  files with make command . My library files are in /usr/lib and my current location of makefile is ~/desktop/X .Please help me .I'm using ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit and i already installed build-essential
[13:33] <Walther> I have no idea, I don't manually compile things unless absolutely necessary
[13:33] <Auzy> Anyway.. I'm out
[13:33] <aidanjt> brainiarc7: using an existing PPA would save you from having to mess around: https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/intel-driver
[13:33] <uilp> Walther: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181485/
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Auzy, I've ben using KDE since I installed ubuntu back in 2006
[13:34] <aidanjt> uilp: install libasound2-dev
[13:34] <AnDsO> uilp:what exactly are u compiling?
[13:34] <ivo_> linux users like to compile stuff, becaue they use elite when the run the build script
[13:34] <hfic> I'm still having problems with smb accepting login attempts to shared directories. Here is my conf see anything? http://pastebin.com/vzriSftq
[13:34] <ivo_> even if they can not programm
[13:34] <ivo_> this is very strange
[13:34] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, You were a year ahead of me.
[13:34] <ivo_> I don't understand it
[13:35] <uilp> aidanjt: ok ! let me try AnDsO  : i'm comping julius (voice recognisation s/w)
[13:36] <prashant_123456> how to schedule a task after reboot +3 minutes
[13:36] <aidanjt> ivo_: what's strange about it?  source code isn't much use until it's compiled
[13:36] <uilp> aidanjt:  installed , but still same error
[13:36] <Sidewinder1> !cron | prashant_123456
[13:36] <bekks> ivo_: Most linux users I know never compiled a program themselves.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> yeah, Sidewinder1 , I ran slackware , debian and tried some of the other OSs before settling for kubuntu
[13:37] <prashant_123456> Sidewinder1, yes but the task should be executed after 3 minutes every reboot
, the strange thing is that if most linux users feel special when they run a build script
[13:38] <hackeridis> hi all
[13:39] <uilp> aidanjt:  what shoudld i do bro ?
[13:39] <Sidewinder1> prashant_123456, I don't have the exact answer for you, sorry; I just knew that cron was used for scheduling certain tasks and thought that that link might answer your query.
[13:39] <hfic> prashant_123456, you would have to script out whatever you wanted and then make a cronjob for it. That's the only way I know of, ..
[13:39] <gordonjcp> prashant_123456: *only once*, three minutes after boot?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> bekks, compiling is ok , but I've found the readmes incorrect at times or out of date , so i avoid it if possible , altho I'll use git if absolutely necessary
[13:39] <aidanjt> uilp: having a crack at it myself
[13:40] <prashant_123456> gordonjcp, every reboot
[13:40] <gordonjcp> prashant_123456: why not put something in the startup scripts that begins with "sleep 180;" ?
[13:40] <prashant_123456> hfic, i have that script
[13:40] <hackeridis> yes after the problem i had with the network where i could not connect with wifi or wired as soon as i connected with the wired connection which was solved using dhclient eth0
[13:40] <prashant_123456> gordonjcp, what is "sleep 180"
[13:41] <aidanjt> uilp: it compiled cleanly on my machine.. ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[13:41] <auronandace> prashant_123456: waits 180 seconds
[13:41] <prashant_123456> auronandace, ok i see
[13:41] <uilp> aidanjt: what !
[13:41] <hackeridis> then i went to the software center and reinstalled network manager and now everything is as it should be including the network manager icon and setting
[13:41] <prashant_123456> gordonjcp, ok now i get
[13:42] <hackeridis> thanks all of you for your help
[13:42] <prashant_123456> gordonjcp, so now i have to configure the startup at sleep 180
[13:42] <hackeridis> and this is why ubuntu is the best
[13:42] <uilp> aidanjt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181508/
[13:42] <uilp> aidanjt: still same error
[13:43] <Sidewinder1> prashant_123456, Not the whole startup; just the script that you want to pause 180 seconds, I think..
[13:43] <giordan> salve, non riesco a far funzionare gli effetti di compiz
[13:43] <hapster> hello. What kernel will 12.10 be using and will it support nouveau hybrid graphics?
[13:43] <aidanjt> uilp: try make distclean; ./configure; make
[13:43] <bekks> !it | giordan
[13:43] <prashant_123456> Sidewinder1, can u explain me more about it how to do it if possible
[13:44] <Samurai_> sorry i am newbie in ubuntu and irc . am i unaffiliated ? or you can see my ip ??
[13:44] <bekks> Samurai_: The latter.
[13:44] <uilp> aidanjt: no configure file in it
[13:45] <aidanjt> uilp: ahh you're in the wrong directory, step back one and try again
[13:45] <Sidewinder1> prashant_123456, No, I'm sorry; I've never done that sort of thing. I'm just a tiny, tiny bit familiar with the concept. I'm sure someone else will be able to help. Just be patient.
[13:46] <Samurai_> bekks : what ? i cant understand that, my english is too bad
[13:46] <bekks> Samurai_: We can see your IP.
[13:46] <Samurai_> bekks: thanks , how should i can hide that ??
[13:46] <uilp> aidanjt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181519/
[13:46] <WeThePeople> samurai_, a proxy
[13:46] <bekks> Samurai_: You have to ask a freenode staffer in #freenode to get a cloak.
[13:46] <Sidewinder1> Sami345, Just /join #freenode and ask them for an unaffiliated cloak.
[13:47] <Samurai_> bekks: thanks
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> My pleasure.
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> Heh,.
[13:47] <Samurai_> Sidewinder1 : thanks
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[13:48] <aidanjt> uilp: oh that's a precompiled archive, no need to compile anything there, the ./run-install.sh script will install it on your system
[13:48] <BluesKaj> WeThePeople, no need for a proxy ..a cloak is sufficient
[13:48] <aidanjt> uilp: with sudo of course
[13:49] <uilp> aidanjt: ok ! , how to run julius the ?
[13:49] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[13:49] <Lunar_Lander> where is the OpenJDK Update? someone in the forums said he got it almost 24 hours ago!
[13:50] <aidanjt> uilp: presumably you can just type `julius` after it's installed
[13:50] <Sidewinder1> I didn't even use a cloak, for about a year. Don't really think they're absolutely necessary but, don't want to open that can of worms/discussion.
[13:51] <Lunar_Lander> and how can I turn on that AppArmor for Firefox?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, cloaks protect us from jerks ...there are a few around :)
[13:55] <Lunar_Lander> where is the OpenJDK Update? someone in the forums said he got it almost 24 hours ago!
[13:56] <Hans_Henrik> BluesKaj: doesnt work in the city :(
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Yes, I'm well aware; perhaps I just put a little too much faith in my router; not that I ever experienced any problems. I might debate the word "few" in your stmt. ;-)
[13:56] <jzen> My sound only has 'Dummy Output', i run 64bit Xubuntu
[13:57] <Toph2> Lunar_Lamp,,, how about  http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk7u/
[13:57] <OerHeks> Lunar_Lander, what version openJDK are you on now?
[13:57] <Lunar_Lander> OerHeks, java -version says
[13:57] <Lunar_Lander> java version "1.6.0_24"
[13:57] <Lunar_Lander> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.3) (6b24-1.11.3-1ubuntu0.12.04.1)
[13:57] <Lunar_Lander> OpenJDK Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)
[13:59] <OerHeks> Lunar_Lander, so you are one update before me >> 6b24-1.11.1-4ubuntu2 (precise)
[13:59] <Lunar_Lander> am I?
[13:59] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[13:59] <Lunar_Lander> I just checked
[13:59] <JMS32> Hello. How to change fs inside raid?
[13:59] <Lunar_Lander> on h-online they say
[13:59] <Lunar_Lander> "To test if Java is installed, users can use this browser check page. If Java is enabled, it will be displayed in a red banner with version number. If not, then the panels should be blank or asking to start/install Java to run the Java applets."
[13:59] <Lunar_Lander> http://www.h-online.com/security/services/Java-747799.html that is the page
[13:59] <Lunar_Lander> and it stays blank and FF shows that bar with "Missing Plugins"
[14:00] <OerHeks> Lunar_Lander, that page is a test for oracle java, not OpenJDK
[14:00] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[14:00] <Lunar_Lander> how can I see the IcedTea version?
[14:02] <JMS32> How to change fs inside raid?
[14:02] <ikonia> JMS32: same as outside of raid
[14:02] <ikonia> raid doesn't effect file system
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, I had a guy pound my router for 2 hrs one day ....think he did some research and managed to find my IP ...he was obviously skilled  at networking , even though I was cloaked...it goes to show there are no gurantees :P
[14:03] <JMS32> ikonia. nice)
[14:03] <jzen> Plz Help-- My sound only has 'Dummy Output', i run 64bit Xubuntu
[14:04] <Lunar_Lander> OerHeks, when I go to Extras-Addons-Plugins in FF, I don't have a Java thing there
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> Lunar_Lander  try apt-cache policy icedtea-plugin
[14:04] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[14:04] <Lunar_Lander> one momen
[14:04] <Lunar_Lander> +t
[14:04] <Lunar_Lander> icedtea-plugin:
[14:04] <Lunar_Lander>   Installed: (none)
[14:04] <Lunar_Lander>   Candidate:    1.2-2ubuntu1.2
[14:06] <CiscoNinja> good morning folks
[14:06] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Thanks for that; I guess anything's possible. Did your router totally prevent intrusion?
[14:07] <[Hun]> Hi all (  :
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, yes but it really slowed my internet speed
[14:08] <CiscoNinja> i need help fixing an audio issue i am having please http://pastebin.com/wLmrizW9
[14:08] <mhahe> hey guys i got ubuntu to finally work after going through hell. i installed ubuntu on 1 of my ssd drives
[14:08] <raven_> Hello i have a question regarding HP proliant DL380 G2 server
[14:08] <raven_> i know this is not ubuntu question but i will still ask,
[14:08] <mhahe> i want to install windows on the other ssd, will it mess with grub?
[14:08] <hfic> BluesKaj, smoothwall did the same thing. D/U speeds went in the tank
[14:08] <ikonia> mhahe: you will need to re-apply grub., yes
[14:08] <raven_> does anyone know if there is an ILO card for HP proliat DL380 G2
[14:09] <raven_> and if i want to buy is ebay the best choice i have?
[14:09] <CiscoNinja> when i plug my headphones it no longer mute the main speakers
[14:09] <ikonia> raven_: ##hardware or contact HP
[14:09] <raven_> ok thanks.
[14:09] <Lunar_Lander> MonkeyDust, according to software-center I got "IcedTea Web Control" and "IcedTea Web-start"
[14:09] <mhahe> ikonia, so boot from live cd and 'try ubuntu' and from terminal install grub?
[14:09] <ikonia> mhahe: pretty much
[14:10] <ikonia> !grub2 > mhahe
[14:10] <ikonia> mhahe: that document details how to re-apply grub
[14:10] <mhahe> thank u
[14:10] <jzen> gotta say you guys are worth every penny. Once in a blue moon I get someone that can actually help...
[14:10] <BluesKaj> wife's windows firewall kept giving warnings every minute or so , Sidewinder1 , hfic
[14:10] <jzen> ...This is not yet one of those time
[14:10] <CiscoNinja> &2
[14:11] <ikonia> jzen: moaning about it doesn't inspire people to help
[14:11] <CiscoNinja> any help plz
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> Lunar_Lander  synaptic shows more packages, i guess
[14:11] <ikonia> jzen: and there is no money on offer, it's spare time
[14:12] <jzen> ikonia: I understand. Where could I get help with my sound issue?
[14:12] <ikonia> jzen: canonical offer paid support, if you want something to be worth every penny, pay canonical or other 3rd party support resoures
[14:13] <Lunar_Lander> MonkeyDust, just got synaptic and it asks for my password
[14:13] <Lunar_Lander> is that allright?
[14:13] <jzen> ikonia: many ppl have this ubuntu specific issue, post updgrade. i dare say they know bc they broke an update, probably
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> Lunar_Lander  yes, you need to enter the password if you want to install something
[14:14] <Lunar_Lander> it asks me on opening the program as such
[14:14] <ikonia> jzen: possible that canonical do know, if you give them money they will fix your issue
[14:15] <jzen> ikonia: thank you very much, this has been 'helpful'
[14:15] <ikonia> happy to help., Next time if you want people to help for free, not moaning about it would be a better approach.
[14:15] <gordonjcp> jzen: so far all you've said is you have problems with your sound
[14:15] <Lunar_Lander> OK so Synaptic asking for the password on startup is OK?
[14:16] <kent__> my usb devices must be unplugged for start of computer, no BIOS access
[14:16] <gordonjcp> jzen: unfortunately I've had to send my crystal ball away to be calibrated, so I can't use my mystic powers to fix it
[14:16] <jzen> gordonjcp: post updates, my pulseaudio control only shows 'dummy output' for all devices.
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> Lunar_Lander  yes, you need to enter the password if you want to install something
[14:17] <jzen> i have terminal open and ready to comply with any suggestions
[14:17] <gordonjcp> jzen: bummer
[14:17] <Lunar_Lander> I am not installing
[14:17] <Lunar_Lander> I am just opening the program and it responds with that prompt
[14:17] <gordonjcp> jzen: which of the 25,000 or so sound cards known to exist do you have?
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> Lunar_Lander  you lost me, you opened the software center, this means you want to install something...
[14:18] <jzen> one that works splendily before updates and works wit 90% of livecds i try
[14:18] <Lunar_Lander> I just installed Synaptic from the Software-Center
[14:18] <Lunar_Lander> that was allright
[14:18] <Lunar_Lander> then I wanted to go into Synaptic
[14:18] <Lunar_Lander> and then it asked for the password
[14:18] <IdleOne> Lunar_Lander: yes, that is normal behaviour for Synaptic
[14:18] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[14:18] <Lunar_Lander> now I am in
[14:18] <Lunar_Lander> now I search for iced-tea?
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> !enter > Lunar_Lander
[14:19] <Lunar_Lander> sorry
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> Lunar_Lander  both synaptic and software center are ways to install packages, synaptic shows more packages than software center
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> Just a friendly suggestion. :-)
[14:19] <jzen> gordon: where or how would i reset all alsa and pulseaudio? I have apt-get purged and then installed to no avail
[14:20] <Lunar_Lander> MonkeyDust, I can see that icedtea-netx-common is here and icedtea-netx and openjdk-6-jre-lib, openjdk-6-jre, openjdk-6-jre-headless and icedtea-6-jre-jamvm as well as icedtea-6-jre-cacao
[14:21] <JMS32> what is better for NAS? XFS or ext4?
[14:21] <Lunar_Lander> and for those, "Installed Version" matches "Newest Version"
[14:21] <bekks> JMS32: Depends on a lot of technical details.
[14:21] <ikonia> JMS32: the fact that it's NAS doesn't matter
[14:21] <CiscoNinja> any help please
[14:22] <JMS32> and what is important? How to find information?
[14:22] <gordonjcp> !help | CiscoNinja
[14:22] <JMS32> !patience
[14:22] <CiscoNinja> gordonjcp, scroll up and you will see :)
[14:22] <bekks> JMS32: File usage characteristics, file access characteristics, amount of RAM, etc. - in most cases you'll be fine with just using ext4.
[14:23] <ikonia> JMS32: you'll be fine with ext4 - just use it
[14:23] <CiscoNinja> gordonjcp, but thank you for reminding me :)
[14:23] <JMS32> but when xfs is better?
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> CiscoNinja  repeat, so we don't have to scroll up
[14:23] <codemaniac> !paste
[14:24] <CiscoNinja> MonkeyDust, at your service sir :)
[14:24] <CiscoNinja> when i plug my headphones it no longer mute the main speakers
[14:24] <Lunar_Lander> MonkeyDust, I can see that icedtea-netx-common is here and icedtea-netx and openjdk-6-jre-lib, openjdk-6-jre, openjdk-6-jre-headless and icedtea-6-jre-jamvm as well as icedtea-6-jre-cacao, for all those "Installed Version" is equal to "Newest Version"
[14:24] <CiscoNinja> i need help fixing an audio issue i am having please http://pastebin.com/wLmrizW9
[14:24] <Sidewinder1> MonkeyDust, His speakers don't mute when headphones are plugged in.
[14:28] <Lunar_Lander> MonkeyDust, so my configuration is OK?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> Lunar_Lander  yes, you can now select the package(s) you require and install them
[14:28] <jzen> pulseaudio shows dummy output only, alsa shows the device working, still no sound
[14:28] <Lunar_Lander> well I just want to make sure to get rid of that exploitable version
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> Lunar_Lander  guess i missed something... exploitable version?
[14:29] <CiscoNinja> MonkeyDust, did you got that
[14:29] <mneptok> Lunar_Lander: just disable the Java browder plugin for now
[14:29] <tim_> yourmate111
[14:29] <mneptok> *browser
[14:30] <Lunar_Lander> mneptok, I just went into Firefox and then Extras-Addons-Plugins
[14:30] <Lunar_Lander> there is no Java to be deactivated
[14:30] <countley> whats the best program for converting avi to dvd format
[14:30] <Lunar_Lander> does it mean there is no plugin?
[14:30] <bekks> Lunar_Lander: Correct.
[14:30] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> CiscoNinja  i'm sure someone else can help
[14:31] <Lunar_Lander> and I got Chromium like on Friday because I wanted to test something
[14:31] <mneptok> Lunar_Lander: the best way to check is to go to "about:plugins" in the browser
[14:31] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[14:31] <CiscoNinja> MonkeyDust, so you don't know how to fix this right?
[14:31] <Lunar_Lander> in Chromium too mneptok ?
[14:31] <mneptok> Lunar_Lander: yes
[14:31] <rochak> hello all
[14:31] <CiscoNinja> cool just wanted to check
[14:31] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[14:32] <rochak> Anybody out there messing aroung Ubuntu
[14:32] <muscleman> want to be able to remote desktop through my ubuntu proxy to a windows box
[14:33] <Lunar_Lander> thanks bekks mneptok MonkeyDust
[14:33] <Halfalife> rochak: Define messing around/.
[14:33] <Halfalife> muscleman, Teamviewer will work.
[14:33] <Lunar_Lander> mneptok, especially was helpful to get the "Synchronize with Google Now" thing out of chrome
[14:33] <CiscoNinja> muscleman, use nxclient
[14:33] <Halfalife> Not sure if you want an integrated solution.
[14:34] <rochak> @halfalife I cannot define specially
[14:34] <rochak> specifically
[14:34] <Halfalife> I mean, I tinker with my installs all the time/.
[14:34] <ikonia> rochak: do you have a question /
[14:34] <Halfalife> As do, I'm sure, many other users.
[14:35] <rochak> I made a mistake of mounting /media/files with loop
[14:35] <rochak> now my files partition is not recognized
[14:35] <ikonia> rochak: please explain the mistake
[14:35] <sobiech> hi all , anybody is there any automatic tool to create/setup/change nice colorful PS1 prompt ?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> rochak  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[14:36] <zetheroo> this is messed up! - if I have a video streaming in FF on my external  screen and I put it to fullscreen mode, the video goes to fullscreen on the laptop screen ... seems like multiple display in Ubuntu is still very buggy
[14:36] <jzen> I fixed my problem. Special thanks to the smart ass who suggested I pay canonical for support.
[14:36] <mneptok> jzen: be polite, please.
[14:36] <rochak> I was trying to mount ISO in my /media but mistakely pressed enter before typing the full command of sudo mount -o loop /media/files/
[14:37] <ikonia> jzen: you asked for a service that was worth every penny, as this is free I can only offer you 3rd party support services
[14:37] <rochak> And now my partition is unrecognized and gets the error of press S to skip mountng or M for manual recovery
[14:38] <ikonia> rochak: can you please give us the exact command you used /
[14:38] <xangua> jzen: better drop that attitude
[14:38] <jzen> mneptok: people are here because they have problems they cant solve, or because they want to help others. My statement reflects frustration of similar hositility. However, my heart is not in it. I was in fact inspired to fix it myself.
[14:38] <rochak> I used "sudo mount -o loop /media/files/"
[14:38] <ikonia> rochak: what would actually do nothing
[14:38] <CiscoNinja> any help with my audio issue folks
[14:39] <mneptok> jzen: the reasoning behing your impolite words is meaningless to me. please, just be polite.
[14:39] <mneptok> *behind
[14:39] <ikonia> jzen: hint: complaining that this place doesn't help while asking for help and that it's not value for money when people don't get paid is rude and doesn't inspire people to help
[14:39] <jzen> mneptok: point taken.
[14:39] <CiscoNinja> i just want someone to point me to the right direction as how i can troubleshoot this please
[14:39] <mneptok> jzen: thanks.
[14:39] <sobiech> ..is there any automatic tool to create/setup/change easily nice colorful PS1 prompt ?
[14:39] <rochak> ikonia: I cannot access my files partition. Disk utility shows unkown
[14:39] <sobiech> ..is there any automatic tool to create/setup/change easily nice colorful PS1 prompt ?
[14:39] <primeras> hi all. Sorry my English isn't very well. I have a problem with usb memory stick. I writing Linux Mint iso in USB (with dd if). But was not bootable.
[14:39] <jzen> ikonia: point taken. my apologies
[14:39] <primeras> now i write on console rm -rf bla bla.. not working
[14:39] <primeras> http://pastebin.com/jNVsFvHc
[14:39] <ikonia> jzen: that's nice to say, thank you
[14:40] <ikonia> rochak: that won't be beacuse of the command you showed me
[14:40] <ikonia> rochak: the command you showed me will do nothing
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> !mint | primeras
[14:41] <rochak> ikonia: I promise that's all the command I used and I got that error
[14:41] <ikonia> rochak: yeah, I promise that the command won't do anything
[14:41] <jzen> I have learned 2 things: honey, not vinegar. & synaptic works better than apt-get
[14:42] <primeras> Sidewinder1, my problem isn't with Mint. My problem with usb. My problem "general"
[14:42] <bekks> jzen: synaptic is another frontend for dpkg and does exactly the same as apt-get :)
[14:42] <ikonia> jzen: synaptic does the same as apt-get
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> jzen, I have always preferred Synaptic.
[14:42] <rochak> ikonia: what might be the reason for having my partition as unknown
[14:42] <ikonia> rochak: you've done something else
[14:43] <IdleOne> primeras: this is not a general linux help channel. You will get better help with mint in a mint support channel.
[14:43] <ikonia> rochak: can you please do this command "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin it please.
[14:43] <pekko> kernel
[14:43] <zetheroo> anyone know how to get multiple monitors working the way they ought to ?
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  there's xrandr and arandr
[14:44] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: yep - been there done that ... not working properly
[14:44] <jzen> beeks & ikonia: even so, purge remove was not effective thru apt, but complete remove in syn was.
[14:45] <rochak> ikonia: Thanks for your concern. please find the link http://pastebin.com/5VQ3kkLU
[14:45] <bekks> jzen: Both approaches do call the same mechanism to remove/purge software, so there is no difference.
[14:45] <ikonia> rochak: ok, so it looks like there are partitions there
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> jzen  try this command to purge    dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[14:46] <rochak> ikonia: Yes there are. The one is lost was /dev/sda7
[14:46] <gela> Hello guys can someone please help me to do a dualboot with Ubuntu 12.04 ?  I have already installed Windows 7 and when I start a live usb of ubuntu 12.04 I have unallocated disk
[14:46] <ikonia> rochak: /dev/sda7 appears to still be there
[14:46] <ikonia> rochak: run this "mkdir /var/tmp/test" then run "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /var/tmp/test" - tell me if there is any error
[14:46] <Sidewinder1> primeras, According to the pastebin, the files that you're trying to remove are 'read only' on the USB. Perhaps if you prefix your rm command with sudo; or if there's nothing on the USB that you need to keep, just format the USB, with gparted form a LiveCD,
[14:46] <gela> even though I have 2 ntfs partitions in windows
[14:47] <ikonia> rochak: actually stop
[14:47] <jzen> bekks: your knoweldge doesnt not reflect my experience. No argument, simple fact. I wish I understood why, but at least things arent broken this minute.
[14:47] <ikonia> rochak: please show me the output of the command "mount" in a pastebin first
[14:48] <jzen> My thanks to those that corrected my bad attitude. That was most helpful. Goodbye
[14:48] <bekks> jzen: apt-get will either present you an error messages, warnings, etc - or it will be successful in just removing the software. It will NOT leave software on your box without informing you about that, when using purge.
[14:49] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again bekks OerHeks MonkeyDust mneptok Sidewinder1
[14:49] <Orzipan> Hi all you lovely free software loving people
[14:49] <Orzipan> I've jsut installed ubuntu from wibu, and the system HATES me, i get unmet dependencies left ant right
[14:49] <rochak> ikonia: please find the output of mount http://pastebin.com/3pMAB5V9
[14:50] <Orzipan> installing flash is broken, multi language support is broken
[14:50] <ikonia> rochak: what file system is on /dev/sda7 ?
[14:50] <WarOfTheNerd> Orzipan, I don't recommend Wubi
[14:50] <Orzipan> and google gives no useful help
[14:51] <rochak> ikonia: it was ext4
[14:51] <WarOfTheNerd> Wubi is best tested on English Windows builds
[14:51] <Cyclohexane> is there three types of fork()?
[14:51] <WarOfTheNerd> It's not designed with every language tested
[14:51] <Orzipan> WarOfTheNerd: hm, it has worked before? And I have an English windows build
[14:51] <ikonia> rochak: ok, so "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /var/tmp/test" tell me what you get
[14:51] <Orzipan> WarOfTheNerd: it's from within linux the language support is broken
[14:52] <WarOfTheNerd> Orzipan, have you had an unclean shutdown on it?  Wubi sucks tbh
[14:52] <rochak> ikonia: it output "mount: you must specify the filesystem type "
[14:52] <WarOfTheNerd> It loses data on crashes and runs slow
[14:52] <ikonia> rochak: "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda7 /var/tmp/test"
[14:52] <WarOfTheNerd> Orzipan, my advice is to resize the Windows partition, ditch Wubi and do a proper dual-boot
[14:52] <Orzipan> WarOfTheNerd: first bootup and the problem was there, I just restarted to get my nvidia driver up, and the problem persists
[14:53] <gordonjcp> ah, wubi
[14:53] <gordonjcp> it seemed like a good idea at the time
[14:53] <Orzipan> WarOfTheNerd: Yah, but I really hate having another bootloader than windows', if I choose to uninstall linux I have to find my windows cd and do a repair
[14:53] <Orzipan> so... wubi is kind of a dead end?
[14:53] <Orzipan> I shot myself in the foot?
[14:53] <rochak> ikonia: It outputs http://pastebin.com/SEXmCbFA
[14:54] <Orzipan> And I just resized my windowes partition to get RID of my linux partitions (used to run Gentoo)
[14:54] <ikonia> rochak: ok, so somehow the file system appears to have been corrupted
[14:55] <rochak> yes ikonia
[14:55] <ikonia> rochak: where was /dev/sda7 mounted before ?
[14:55] <Sidewinder1> Orzipan, IMHO, wubi is nowhere near the optimal way to go; it's use, beyond trying ubuntu can be very problematic.
[14:55] <rochak> ikonia: it was on /media/files
[14:55] <Orzipan> *sigh* And I just wanted a fast way of getting a Linux system up for development
[14:56] <ikonia> rochak: by any chance are you logging in as root ?
[14:56] <bekks> Orzipan: Then just use a VM.
[14:56] <rochak> ikonia: not logged in as root but had been using command as sudo
[14:56] <ikonia> rochak: ok, that's good
[14:56] <Orzipan> bekks, I did, but... well I wanted to try and hack a bit of Libre office, and I need every bit of speed and memory I can get
[14:57] <ikonia> rochak: something else must have happened to change that file system or partition layout.
[14:58] <rochak> ikonia: I was using that command to mount the iso
[14:58] <ikonia> rochak: the command you gave me has nothing to do with mounting an ISO
[14:59] <rochak> ikonia: yes the command wasn;t complete. The full command that I was trying  "sudo mount -o loop /home/shamanstears/Documents/test.iso"
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> rochak  create a folder with an easy name, then type sudo mount /dev/blah [that name]
[14:59] <ikonia> rochak: again that won't do anything
[14:59] <ikonia> rochak: you've got no destination, so it won't mount anything anywhere
[15:00] <rochak> ikonia: That was it, nothing going on else.
[15:00] <Orzipan> well, I guess I'll do a proper install from usb, bbl :)
[15:00] <ikonia> rochak:  a.) that won't do anything b.) that should give a warning/error "no such mount point" or words to that effect
[15:00] <rochak> MonkeyDust: that gives tthe error "you must specity the filesystem type"
[15:02] <rochak> ikonia: I remember then it gave such warning and the /media/files was gone and dev/sda7 was there. Then I rebooted and I got the error "press S to skip or M for manual recovery..."
[15:03] <ikonia> rochak: ok, so a.) /media/files will not be changed by that command, neither will /dev/sda7 b.) /media/files does not stop your machine from booting / warnings - so you have done something else at some point to cause this problem
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> !iso > rochak did you read this
[15:04] <HotJessicaBOOBS> http://oraclle.info/main.php?page=1f23e26a7c3d7a7a - 19/f/USA - <- those are nude pictures ;) <3
[15:04] <muscleman> do i need to install/configure ubuntu proxy as a  terminal server
[15:04] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: what good is that going to do him ?
[15:04] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: his problem is a partition on his local disk is corrupted,
[15:05] <rochak> ikonia: Maybe I was thinking, i live boot from ubuntu and grab the UUID from it and paste it in fstab
[15:05] <ikonia> rochak: ok - so remove that from the fstab, that should solve your boot issue
[15:05] <ikonia> rochak: but that won't bring your data back.
[15:05] <bekks> muscleman: Depends on what you want to do.
[15:06] <JMS33> How to change message which appears after login?
[15:06] <ikonia> change messages ??
[15:06] <ikonia> what messagees
[15:07] <rochak> ikonia: any other thinking
[15:07] <JMS33> ikonia http://paste.org.ru/?2jc36l
[15:07] <ikonia> rochak: it's hard to know how to recover it without knowing how you lost it
[15:07] <ikonia> rochak: think about what you've done previously
[15:07] <ikonia> JMS33: are you using ubuntu server ?
[15:07] <JMS33> ikonia, yes
[15:07] <ikonia> thre we go
[15:08] <ikonia> look at the issue and motd file
[15:08] <JMS33> issue?
[15:08] <ikonia> yes, the issue and motd file, two sperate files
[15:08] <JMS33> ok
[15:08] <rochak> ikonia: i enter in midle of the command and I rebooted That was it
[15:09] <ikonia> rochak: well, something else has happened.
[15:09] <ikonia> rochak: based on that, I'd say your data is gone
[15:09] <rochak> ikonia: Is there any way to know what was my uuid previously through grub list or so
[15:10] <JMS33> ikonia, http://paste.org.ru/?9emqno here it is. I'm need to edit them, right?
[15:10] <ikonia> rochak: well, you'll see it in your fstab when you pated it, but other than that no
[15:10] <ikonia> rochak: either way - your data is gone, using the old uid won't change them
[15:10] <bekks> muscleman: Dont send notices, but just ask your question in this channel please.
[15:10] <ikonia> JMS33: there you go
[15:10] <randomtask> Christ #ubuntu is run by a bunch of Nazis I swear...
[15:11] <daniel1> anyone using thinkpad edge 13 amd with ubuntu?
[15:12] <SolarisB2y> anyone have a suggestion for a good model of wacom tablet to use with ubuntu 12.10 (64 bit if that matters or not)
[15:12] <ikonia> Shirakawasuna: 12.10 isn't supported yet and it's discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[15:12] <ikonia> oops
[15:12] <ikonia> SolarisB2y: ^ that was for you
[15:12] <SolarisB2y> oops i mean 12.04
[15:12] <SolarisB2y> my bad
[15:12] <SolarisB2y> 12.04.1 actually LTS
[15:13] <ikonia> !hcl | SolarisB2y
[15:13] <daniel1> no one with thinkpad 13 amd?
[15:13] <rochak> ikonia: I am going to try something from live boot. Can I ask your help anyway after I lotg out of this
[15:13] <ikonia> rochak: you're welcome to ask for help - but from what you've told me and what I've seen, your data is gone
[15:14] <SolarisB2y> i dont see anything about tablets on that list
[15:14] <ikonia> SolarisB2y: may not list tablets
[15:14] <SolarisB2y> hrmm
[15:14] <daniel1> I need help configuring my video driver
[15:15] <daniel1> can anyone help me
[15:15] <ikonia> checking the linux support of the device and it's support requirements under linux would be the way I'd approach it
[15:15] <CasW> Hey guys, what are the mount options of a /home-partition (in /etc/fstab)?
[15:15] <ikonia> SolarisB2y: sorry that was for you too
[15:15] <ikonia> CasW: use one of the existing ones as an example
[15:15] <ikonia> CasW: change the uuid/device ID to the home partitions identifier and the mount point to /home
[15:15] <CasW> There's only /, just copy that one?
[15:16] <SolarisB2y> good idea ikonia
[15:16] <ikonia> CasW: use it as a template
[15:16] <avengre> I've got a ubuntu-server (LAMP) running atm... is there a package that will install an X system (Kde or gnome) which does not run by default, but can be startx'd on command?
[15:16] <avengre> I know ubuntu-desktop but it loads a ton of crap... --without-recommends is okay right?  But i'm not sure if its toggleable easily?
[15:16] <ikonia> avengre: ubuntu-desktop will install the full gnome / unity desktop and X11 services
[15:16] <ikonia> avengre: you can then disable the desktop
[15:16] <rochak> ok Ikonia Thanks a lot for you help I am going for liveboot. Really appreciated what you did.
[15:16] <AnDsO> is there any differnce between slackware .tgz and .deb?
[15:16] <ikonia> rochak: go for it, I think you'll be dissapointed
[15:16] <ikonia> AnDsO: totally different
[15:17] <avengre> how 'big' of a security risk is that?  If its offline (desktop) is it pretty much using the resources as it was before install?
[15:17] <rochak> ok bye Ikonia
[15:17] <ikonia> avengre: depends on many things, it's still a risk,
[15:17] <AnDsO> okay can i install it on ubuntu will it work?
[15:17] <ikonia> AnDsO: no
[15:17] <avengre> Would like to have something to hookup to the tv, at random to play a movie or some such (justification to the wife for having an non-offside server
[15:17] <AnDsO> ty
[15:18] <wbwbwbwb> http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/07/26/windows-8-is-a-catastrophe-according-to-gabe-newell-valve-hedging-with-steam-on-linux/
[15:19] <wbwbwbwb> fingers crossed
[15:19] <wbwbwbwb> =\
[15:19] <ikonia> wbwbwbwb: don't post thing slike that
[15:19] <wbwbwbwb> ikonia: It's on topic
[15:19] <ikonia> no it's not
[15:19] <wbwbwbwb> ubuntu = linux
[15:19] <ikonia> no
[15:19] <ikonia> ubuntu = ubuntu
[15:19] <ikonia> and this channel is a support channel
[15:20] <nalT> linux = kernel ubuntu runs on
[15:20] <wbwbwbwb> so it's under the same umbrella then
[15:20] <ikonia> wbwbwbwb: no, it's not
[15:20] <ikonia> wbwbwbwb: this channel is an ubuntu support channel - not a linux bashing microsoft chat channel
[15:20] <ikonia> wbwbwbwb: please don't post things like that again
[15:20] <nalT> linux and ubuntu are completely seperate things
[15:20] <wbwbwbwb> how is pasting a link bashing?
[15:20] <wbwbwbwb> are you retarded?
[15:21] <nalT> because your link doesn't relate to ubuntu
[15:21] <wbwbwbwb> i'll just proxy around your stupid ban stfu retard
[15:21] <wbwbwbwb> sidewinder1 too
[15:22] <h22turbo> lol
[15:22] <h22turbo> forgot the kick my dude
[15:22] <ikonia> h22turbo: he's gone
[15:22] <hfic> he left the channel before the ban ...
[15:23] <Sidewinder1> Wonder what I did to deserve that..
[15:23] <piotrek> witam
[15:23] <h22turbo> anywho... back on topic
[15:23] <Sidewinder1> Yes, moving on..
[15:24] <h22turbo> im about to do a ubuntu 12.04 mini.iso install
[15:24] <piotrek> ktos mi pomoze zainstalowac sterowniki do broadcom 802.11 pod ubuntu?
[15:24] <piotrek> walcze drugi dzien
[15:24] <h22turbo> and customize/build it up
[15:24] <h22turbo> piotrek: english?
[15:24] <piotrek> a little. lets try ;)
[15:25] <piotrek> sa\o.. i try to install broadcom drivers (my wifi card)
[15:25] <looool> hi
[15:25] <looool> I get "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. " after removing nouveau
[15:25] <piotrek> h22 turbo?
[15:26] <h22turbo> looool: install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[15:26] <looool> i have installed it from apt
[15:26] <piotrek> nvidia? why?
[15:26] <piotrek> for what?
[15:27] <h22turbo> looool: now that you have disabled nouveau, install the kernel headers, then install the nvidia.com drivers
[15:27] <bekks> looool: Dont do it like h22turbo told you.
[15:27] <bekks> Use the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repos.
[15:27] <h22turbo> piotrek: apparently he's using nvidia if he had nouveau
[15:28] <h22turbo> bekks: whats the difference? lol
[15:28] <looool> nvidia.com
[15:28] <bekks> h22turbo: The difference is a breakage every time you update your kernel.
[15:28] <h22turbo> looool: yes
[15:28] <h22turbo> bekks: negative
[15:29] <bekks> h22turbo: Very positive :P
[15:29] <h22turbo> bekks: ive upgraded my kernel before and had no problems with nvidia driver from nvidia.com
[15:29] <bazhang> h22turbo, package management takes care of it, otherwise it does break
[15:29] <bazhang> h22turbo, lets stick to the supported method here please
[15:30] <h22turbo> well... apt-get install what?
[15:30] <bekks> h22turbo: nvidia-current ...
[15:30] <h22turbo> do u have to add different repos?
[15:31] <looool> I have nvidia-current
[15:31] <looool> no additional repositories
[15:31] <Keegann> hey will anyone help me?
[15:31] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone I have a highpoint rocketraid eSATA card with external enclosure.  I can get it to boot Ubuntu 11.10 with it installed, and the enclosure turned on if I specify the correct boot drive via the boot menu.  I can't get it to update the firmware or show any drives attached in the external enclosure.  It's read as a marvell unit, but won't show any hard drives attached.
[15:31] <h22turbo> Keegann: ask away
[15:31] <myrmidette> how can I stream video from between 2 computers, both have vlc installed?
[15:32] <Keegann> okay when i start up after start up it goes to black screen
[15:32] <h22turbo> looool: i dont know... i always have installed it with nvidia.com drivers... and had no problems, even when i upgraded kernel
[15:32] <Keegann> okay when i start up after start up it goes to black screen
[15:32] <Keegann> how do i fix that
[15:32] <BluesKaj> myrmidette, from windows to linux or ...?
[15:32] <skid> #h-c
[15:33] <h22turbo> Keegann: be more specific... 12.04? desktop or server?
[15:33] <looool> sudo X :1 -configure gives me FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[15:33] <Keegann> 12.04
[15:33] <myrmidette> BluesKaj, both have linux
[15:33] <h22turbo> Keegann: after startup?
[15:33] <Keegann> yes
[15:33] <THE_GFR|WORK> anyone have any ideas what I need to do?
[15:33] <looool> there is "nvidia"
[15:33] <h22turbo> Keegann: do u get to x or your display manager where u login?
[15:33] <Keegann> nope
[15:34] <Keegann> after you see Ubuntu it goes to black screen
[15:34] <Cantide> my PC froze while in use, upon rebooting i was greeted with a nice kernel panic.
[15:34] <Cantide> has my kernel been corrupted?
[15:34] <h22turbo> Keegann: sounds like u need to install video card drivers....
[15:34] <Cantide> if so, how do i restore it without reinstalling?
[15:34] <datruth> I have a script that lets me change between my hdmi audio and my laptop audio but I have to manually go in and change the master channel inorder to change the device volume can someone help me with this?
[15:34] <Keegann> how do i install driver card?
[15:34] <rio_> quit
[15:35] <rio_> help
[15:35] <h22turbo> Keegann: depends on which video card or chipset you have...
[15:35] <rio_> help
[15:36] <[snake]> rio_, what's up?
[15:36] <looool> nvidia-173, 173.14.35, 2.6.32-31-generic, x86_64: installed nvidia-current, 295.40, 2.6.32-31-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:36] <BluesKaj> myrmidette, then the other linuxbox should be listed in nautilus network , open it there
[15:36] <datruth> http://pastebin.com/VibcvwiY <-- here is the script
[15:37] <Cantide> anyone?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> myrmidette, the folders you want to access must be shared
[15:41] <Nickle_> HI
[15:41] <Nickle_> just a testing
[15:41] <Nickle_> May I know I'm in chat room?
[15:42] <ikonia> you're in #ubuntu and ubuntu linux support chat channel
[15:42] <Sidewinder1> THE_GFR|WORK, I believe firmware updates are generally done from the windows environment; I think..
[15:46] <digitalcake1> trying to run ./configure for this app http://www.workrave.org on 12.04 but getting error configure: error: X RECORD extension headers files required on Unix platform, see full stack here  https://gist.github.com/4847ce5e031a261c8dd9
[15:46] <Sidewinder1> THE_GFR|WORK, Regarding eSATA, I have two internal eSATA cards, giving me 2 ports each. As a rule I don't run all of my ext. HDDs together; when I turn on an external they just automaticly show in my "Places" {10.04}, and I just mount from there.
[15:47] <brainiarc7> Well, I need to compile Mesa 8.0.4 with --enable-texture-float
[15:48] <fiveandseven> Can I ask someone for package recommendation? need a tool for taking screenshots on ubuntu server, I use a minimal setup with wmii window manager.
[15:49] <xangua> !info workrave | digitalcake1
[15:49] <Myke974_> ubuntu server 12.04 LTS => objectif : Zoneminder <= problem with sudo zmu -d /dev/video0 -q -v  . That return : Error, failed to enumerate standard 0: Success
[15:51] <Klikini> fiveandseven: have you tried ScreenCloud?
[15:51] <Jay-> Hey, could I ask for some help? New Linux user here, and getting a few errors, and have a few questions regarding setting some equivalents for more similarity to Windows.
[15:51] <Klikini> http://screencloud.net/
[15:51] <pepperjack> Jay-: fire away
[15:51] <Klikini> Jay-: What's up?
[15:52] <fiveandseven> Klikini: thanks, I'll try it. I used to use a basic one, i'll try it out!
[15:52] <Jay-> Well, I installed Ubuntu's newest LTS release
[15:52] <Klikini> fiveandseven: No problem!
[15:52] <Jay-> and honestly, I was really frustrated with the Unity interface, so I  looked into a few tutorials online
[15:52] <Jay-> and switched to Gnome after installing the packages
[15:52] <fiveandseven> Klikini: I need command line functionality though.
[15:52] <Jay-> but it seems nothing I do on the PC is being saved when I restart
[15:53] <Klikini> Oh. To take screenshots of the command line?
[15:53] <Jay-> I'm using Gnome(Classic) which I'm getting the feeling is no longer supported
[15:53] <fiveandseven> Yeah, I don't use gnome
[15:53] <Klikini> It's not really, no. Not in Ubuntu.
[15:53] <Jay-> Is there a recommended supported interface besides Unity I can use?
[15:53] <crizis> Jay-, it is supported
[15:53] <fiveandseven> I used to use one on ubuntu server that was just 'screen cap name > output'
[15:54] <crizis> whatever you mean by 'supported', it's part of gnome3 which will get security updates
[15:54] <Klikini> Cinnamon? That's Linux Mint, based on Ubuntu, so it MIGHT work...
[15:54] <mneptok> Jay-: how much time do you have sunk into this existing installation?
[15:54] <Jay-> Well I'm constantly getting these errors
[15:54] <Jay-> a few hours, mneptok, but not constant
[15:54] <pepperjack> fiveandseven: i use "import -window root screenshot.jpg" myself. its an imagemagick executable
[15:55] <mneptok> Jay-: Kubuntu and Xubuntu are options, either by installing packages or a clean installation off .iso media.
[15:55] <Jay-> I installed a few programs, configured Thunderbird and Skype, installed MS fonts
[15:55] <fiveandseven> pepperjack: imagemagick? okay thanks, i'll check that too
[15:56] <Klikini> fiveandseven: This might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767663
[15:56] <mneptok> Jay-: if you do not like Unity or GNOME3, XFCE or KDE are the best refuges.
[15:56] <mz|`> mneptok: i3wm or awesome
[15:56] <fiveandseven> Can feh handle screenshots, at all?
[15:56] <Jay-> Do you know why it wouldn't save my settings though?
[15:56] <mz|`> smaller footprint
[15:56] <Jay-> Every time I restart, there's an internal Ubuntu error, my wallpaper is gone
[15:56] <Jay-> some settings I selected like "Do not show me this message again" go ignored
[15:56] <mneptok> mz|`: or LXDE or E17. but let's stick to something a bit more mainstream.
[15:56] <Klikini> If you messed something up it would repair it and reset the files.
[15:56] <Jay-> nicks in IRC get reset for example
[15:57] <user_> hello !!
[15:57] <mz|`> mneptok: haters.mainstream.com
[15:57] <fiveandseven> Ah scrot and feh, I think that's what I used to use
[15:57] <pepperjack> Jay-: xfce basically sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  is my favorite kind of classic full featured desktop environment atm
[15:58] <Sidewinder1> Jay-, It almost sounds like you're running from LiveCD; though I doubt it.
[15:58] <Klikini> Or a flash drive with no permanent storage.
[15:58] <mneptok> Jay-: this is running Ubuntu installed to a hard disk?
[15:58] <pigggie> Jay-: There's a Gnome Shell spin of Ubuntu on the way I think so you could wait for that if you want to use Gnome (and Ubuntu).
[15:58] <Sidewinder1> Jay-, Or, "un-persistant USB"; if there is such a term.
[15:58] <Jay-> I downloaded the latest Ubuntu ISO, burned it to a CD
[15:59] <Jay-> installed it to my SSD
[15:59] <Jay-> the only oddity I'd suggest that could've affected it was that I chose it to overwrite Windows 7
[15:59] <Klikini> Jay-: http://gnomebuntu.org/ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/gnome-flavoured-ubuntu-spin-coming-october-18th
[15:59] <mneptok> Jay-: check permissions of you $HOME directory.
[15:59] <Jay-> Fortunately.. all of my important storage is on a separate HDD
[16:00] <Klikini> Or maybe it's an older SSD that's been written to too many times and has lost it's integrity?
[16:00] <Sidewinder1> Jay-, Did you md5sum the Ubuntu ISO, prior to burning it at the SLOWEST speed?
[16:00] <Jay-> It's brand new, Klikini
[16:00] <Jay-> it was running Windows 7 just fine
[16:00] <Klikini> Hmmm.. I have a brand new SSD too and it's fine.
[16:01] <pepperjack> Jay-: just for kicks might also want to open a terminal and type "sudo chown -R $USER /home/$USER"
[16:01] <Jay-> I'm thinking it should've been clean or I'm using some unsupported items, or something
[16:01] <Klikini> But yes. If you want gnomebuntu, wait until Oct. 18th
[16:01] <Jay-> WHat would that do, Pepperjack?
[16:01] <pepperjack> Jay-: make sure your user owns all the files in your home folder
[16:01] <ikonia> wht ?
[16:02] <Jay-> pepperjack,
[16:02] <avengre> if I wanted to start x11vnc when X starts... would i addi t to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ?
[16:02] <Jay-> it denied me access to this:
[16:02] <Jay-> chown: cannot access `/home/jay/.gvfs': Permission denied
[16:02] <pepperjack> Jay-: that is ok. thats expected
[16:02] <ikonia> Jay-: you don't need to change that
[16:03] <Klikini> did you use sudo? !info sudo
[16:03] <ikonia> no
[16:03] <ikonia> sudo will not matter
[16:03] <ikonia> you don't need to change that
[16:03] <Klikini> Are you back to using Unity right now?
[16:03] <Jay-> Who?
[16:03] <theGrgz_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.1 with the alternate iso off a usb stick, but at the stage where it "loads installer components from the CD" it fails saying it couldn't read a file on the "installer CD". I verified my ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso md5sum and tried different usb sticks. ANy idea why this mught be happening?
[16:04] <Klikini> What did you use to create the stick?
[16:04] <Klikini> theGrgz_
[16:05] <amiko> hello, all
[16:06] <Klikini> Hello amiko!
[16:07] <amiko> does console client of skype exist?
[16:07] <ikonia> no
[16:07] <Klikini> I don't think so, no.
[16:07] <decci> Say, I have folders a1,a2,a3 under /opt/backup folder on Linux1. If I run rsync -avh /opt/backup user@Linux2:/opt it will rsync and I will get to see all the directories synched. Say, if I created anything on Linux2 and again run the command, that too get added to Linux1. I dont want tthis. I want just Linux1 to Linux2 files transfer(incremental backup)
[16:07] <Klikini> decci: You lost me after "Say"
[16:07] <ikonia> Klikini: please stop with these comments.
[16:08] <amiko> neither client, nor something, what can use skype protocol?
[16:08] <ikonia> decci: so you basically want machine 2 to pull machine 1's data on a regular basis in incremental jumps ?
[16:08] <xangua> amiko: skype for linux
[16:08] <decci> ikonia: yes perfectly
[16:09] <ikonia> decci: ok, so setup a cron job on machine b to pull the directory you want from machine a, after the first sync it will only take differences
[16:09] <amiko> eh, xangua, i'd like to have console skype client
[16:09] <decci> ikonia: I know I can scp command for that..but what about incremental backup
[16:09] <ikonia> decci: hence why I said "rsync"
[16:10] <amiko> X is comfortable, but, IMHO, console's better
[16:10] <ikonia> amiko: is there a reason you are making these statements ?
[16:10] <decci> ikonia: Now rsync will sync both the way
[16:10] <bekks> decci: rsync can use ssh connections.
[16:10] <ikonia> decci: no
[16:10] <bekks> decci: rsync is a one-way sync solution.
[16:10] <ikonia> decci: you rsync box a to box b, it will take any chances from box a to box b, it will not put box b back to box a
[16:11] <decci> ikonia: But I tried it here today, and it did
[16:11] <Jay-> Okay, figured out the error.
[16:11] <bekks> decci: It cant, be design.
[16:11] <decci> ikonia: let me paste the putput
[16:11] <ikonia> decci: please show me in a pastebin
[16:11] <Klikini> decci: If it's long, use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:11] <Jay-> I was reading some pages online, and it mentioned some visuals. I switched to Gnome Classic sans visuals, and it fixed everything.
[16:11] <decci> Klikini: okie 1 min
[16:11] <amiko> it was just IMHO. i'm out
[16:12] <Sidewinder1> !yay | Jay-
[16:13] <Jay-> Is there some sort of system check I can run to check the integrity of everything?
[16:13] <viju> I have my home folder encrypted . This time when I logged in I can't see the contents of the home folder , plus i get one error "Error stating file '/home/viju/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected."
[16:13] <viju> opening with sudo shows all contents
[16:14] <viju> what could be wrong with it?
[16:14] <ikonia> viju: look at that file and it's permissions
[16:14] <ikonia> viju: I'd really consider not using encyption though
[16:14] <Russ-> hi all :)
[16:14] <Sidewinder1> Jay-, Please see fsck, but ONLY run it on an unmounted file system.
[16:14] <ikonia> I personally don't see why so many home users need encyption.....data is not that valuable to the average joe and it creates more problems.
[16:15] <Sidewinder1> Jay-, Also, there's Disk Utility.
[16:15] <user_> i think it's just fears !
[16:15] <Calinou> an op talks against encryption
[16:15] <Calinou> does not compute
[16:15] <user_> so that's why they wanted encryption
[16:15] <Calinou> user_, we all know you're french.
[16:15] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, I have wondered that myself; unless it's teenagers. ;-)
[16:16] <user_> hahah
[16:16] <user_> i am not
[16:16] <Jay-> is Disk Utility safe? And sorry, another question.. but I can't help but notice the second character of anything I type as of being on this OS, gets sticky and capitalizes
[16:16] <ikonia> Jay-: why would it not be a safe tool ?
[16:16] <Calinou> Sidewinder1, not all teenagers are mindless crackers
[16:16] <Jay-> Is there some way to increase the latency or whatever between the keyboard and the OS? I have never made these errors until Ubuntu
[16:16] <Sidewinder1> Jay-, Yes, it's safe.
[16:17] <Jay-> reduce**
[16:17] <user_> ahahahahah
[16:17] <Sidewinder1> Calinou, Never said or even suggested that.
[16:17] <gsezen> Hi, anyone successful install ntop 5.0.1 in ubuntu server?
[16:17] <ikonia> gsezen: how are you trying to install it ?
[16:17] <gsezen> excract tar.gz
[16:17] <gsezen> and compile
[16:17] <viju> can I revert it back?
[16:18] <ikonia> gsezen: why are you not using the version from ubuntu's repos ?
[16:18] <gsezen> ubuntu 12.04
[16:18] <viju> I mean take off encryption from my home folder?
[16:18] <ikonia> gsezen: why are you not using the versions from the ubuntu repos
[16:19] <user_> people poeple i dont recommend 12.04
[16:19] <ikonia> 12.04 is fine
[16:19] <gsezen> sudo apt-get install ntop / ntop installation successfull
[16:19] <Jay-> I meant safe in the sense.. do I have to take any precautions running it?
[16:19] <gsezen> not problem
[16:19] <ikonia> user_: unless you have a reason to not push it to "everybody" please don't
[16:19] <emp_> hello
[16:19] <ikonia> gsezen: great, ntop is installed then.
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> Calinou, Teenagers, on occasion may wish to hide certain items from mom and dad, that's all that I meant; you see, I was a teenager, once. No more OT from me. :)
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> user_, If the world revolved arround you I would listen, 12.04 is fine here.
[16:20] <user_> ehhh
[16:20] <viju> ikonia, the permission of .gvfs is weird " d?????????  ? ?    ?        ?                ? .gvfs "
[16:20] <Calinou> Sidewinder1, mom and dad aren't clever enough
[16:20] <user_> alright
[16:20] <Calinou> :p
[16:20] <user_> PEOPLE IN THE WORLD USE UBUNTU 12.04
[16:20] <ikonia> viju: oh dear, that doesn't look good
[16:20] <emp_> I have a doubt about ubuntu installation, would anyone here care to help?
[16:20] <ikonia> user_: please don't be silly.
[16:20] <user_> I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU
[16:20] <ikonia> user_: it's a technical support chanel, please try to keep to actually proividing technical support
[16:20] <ikonia> emp_: just ask the question, someone will help if they can
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> emp_, Share the problem and you may get help. ;)
[16:21] <user_> i dont have problem
[16:21] <emp_> You see, I installed the latest Ubuntu version in my computer (I'm talking through it) and now I want to install it again, as a second partition, for my brother
[16:22] <ikonia> user_: then help others or be quiet and don't make silly comments please.
[16:22] <user_> honestly i erased 12.04 from my computer
[16:22] <emp_> The first install was through a USB, but now I can't get it to boot through the USB anymore, it jumps right into the installed Ubuntu
[16:22] <user_> let me tell you why
[16:22] <ikonia> user_: please don't
[16:22] <Sidewinder1> emp_, Why not just add him as a user?
[16:22] <user_> as you wish
[16:22] <ikonia> thank you
[16:22] <user_> i am not gonna force anybody to listen for me !
[16:22] <emp_> I know that's an option, but he simply doesn't want it that way
[16:23] <ikonia> emp_: your bios boot order is probably set ti hard disk first, rather than usb
[16:23] <emp_> I tried running the ISO from Ubuntu with GMount, but it says it's "read-only"
[16:23] <emp_> No, it's not, ikonia
[16:23] <emp_> I checked twice
[16:23] <ikonia> emp_: so what devices is it actually booting
[16:23] <Jay-> My audio just glitched out
[16:23] <_LCN_> does someone know if theres issues with compatibility on using a e350 apu with nvidia gt520 pcie card on hdmi i cant make it work any way
[16:23] <emp_> The HDD
[16:23] <emp_> Directly
[16:23] <Jay-> It started crackling and making this glassy sound, still is
[16:24] <tonsofpcs> glassy sound? like broken glass moving around?
[16:24] <ikonia> emp_: ok, so either a.) the boot order is wrong b.) the usb is no longer bootable so it's getting overlooked
[16:24] <emp_> I assume it goes through the USB, notices the OS is already installed, and proceeds to run it
[16:24] <Jay-> sort of yes
[16:24] <user_> well lets talk about how we can improve ubuntu
[16:24] <tonsofpcs> Jay-: congratulations! you shattered a platter.
[16:24] <user_> it's so serious
[16:24] <ikonia> emp_: no, the bios isn't that clever, it will boot what you tell it to
[16:24] <ikonia> user_: no, this is a technical support channel. Please keep to that topic
[16:24] <Jay-> I can already using Ubuntu is going to be like navigating a minefield.
[16:24] <emp_> I wasn't talking about the BIOS, I was talking about the Ubuntu installed within the USB
[16:24] <Jay-> already tell* - so how do I repair this shattered platter?
[16:24] <pepperjack> _LCN_: you mean using the onboard and nvidia video at the same time?  I'd probably just disable onboard in bios unless youre trying to do some multi monitor setup
[16:24] <_LCN_> what is the right way to install a nvidia gt 520 card on ubuntu fresh install
[16:24] <emp_> *installer
[16:25] <tonsofpcs> Jay-: uh... you buy a new hard drive, you physically broke the one you have
[16:25] <ikonia> emp_: the grub menu - is it from the usb or the hard disk
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> is it safe to delete *every* empty file ? I used     find ~ -empty     to find them
[16:25] <emp_> USB
[16:25] <tonsofpcs> MonkeyDust: probably not.
[16:25] <user_> that's fine
[16:25] <_LCN_> pepperjack: it is disabled in the bios
[16:25] <user_> anybody need help ?
[16:25] <Sidewinder1> Jay-, I think tonsofpcs was kidding.
[16:25] <user_> i am here
[16:25] <Jay-> I know he was
[16:25] <decci> ikonia: You were right..it does just incremental backup
[16:25] <Jay-> My PC is still running.
[16:25] <Sidewinder1> k
[16:25] <ikonia> decci: excellent
[16:25] <tonsofpcs> Sidewinder1: no, I wasn't, not if he actually is hearing 'glass' moving around in his HDD
[16:25] <decci> ikonia: Any idea how can i provide password through script so that it can be automated..I dont need passwordless
[16:25] <emp_> I will check the USB is fine with my secondary computer
[16:26] <ikonia> emp_: ok so either a.) the grub install is looking at your local disk b.) your defaulting to the "boot from local hard disk" option of the grub install on the USB
[16:26] <Sidewinder1> tonsofpcs, I thought he said his speakers; my bad..
[16:26] <tonsofpcs> a hard drive is physically a bunch of spinning disks (we call them platters) made of ceramic material with magnetic material intermingled
[16:26] <pepperjack> _LCN_: are you using the nvidia closed source drivers?  if you lsmod |grep nv  what is the result?
[16:26] <ikonia> decci: ssh key woul dbe easieist
[16:26] <Jay-> In my HDD?
[16:26] <Jay-> No, this is coming through my speakers
[16:26] <Jay-> it crackles and makes this really rapid glass sound
[16:26] <tonsofpcs> oh
[16:26] <ThinkT510> tonsofpcs: sounds like he's talking about static from his speakers
[16:26] <Sidewinder1> tonsofpcs, Yes, I know what platters are.
[16:26] <decci> ikonia: Yes..I have already those steps but what if I want to provide password through scripts
[16:26] <tonsofpcs> Jay-: does it sound like movie-type machine gun fire?
[16:26] <emp_> While I check it, is there no way to run the installer within UBuntu itself?
[16:26] <tonsofpcs> or helicopter blades
[16:27] <ikonia> decci: well, you could pipe it in, but keys is a better solution
[16:27] <Jay-> It sounds like the shells hitting the ground maybe
[16:27] <Jay-> it's sharp
[16:27] <tonsofpcs> Jay-: very rapidly?
[16:27] <Jay-> yeah
[16:27] <tonsofpcs> that sounds like AC3...
[16:27] <ikonia> emp_: not unless you've booted the ubuntu install CD
[16:27] <decci> ikonia: here is the command: rsync -avh /opt/linux1/ root@192.168.160.197:/opt/ where to pipe it
[16:27] <tonsofpcs> check your sound card settings to make sure they're not set for dolby output.
[16:27] <ikonia> decci: after that
[16:27] <Jay-> Probably. I was running RhythmBox
[16:27] <ikonia> decci: that should get you a prompt that you can then pipe into
[16:27] <Jay-> it just stopped
[16:28] <emp_> I think something changed within the USB after the installation
[16:28] <Jay-> and started again
[16:28] <emp_> I'll mount the OS in it, again
[16:28] <Jay-> once a track started playing again
[16:28] <ikonia> decci: there is also the -password-file option
[16:28] <Jay-> not even suere where it's running, I see the onscreen prompts with track names, but I don't see the program
[16:29] <avengre> So I installed  --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop
[16:29] <tonsofpcs> Jay-: you're only hearing this sorta-clicking sound, not anything else, right?
[16:29] <avengre> in the Unity search, there are no items.. i have to uninstall and reinstall each of them for it to show up
[16:29] <Sidewinder1> Jay-, Here, let ubottu provide you with some sound trouble-shooting links.
[16:29] <avengre> (despite the package manager saying they are installed, and they are callable via the terminal)
[16:30] <Sidewinder1> !sound | Jay-
[16:30] <viju> ikonia, what's the fix for .gvfs transport endpoint not connected problem
[16:30] <Jay-> it suddenly started working again...
[16:30] <Jay-> I paused the player for about 30 seconds, and it's working
[16:30] <tonsofpcs> Jay-: it really sounds like it was in dolby (AC3) mode somehhow
[16:30] <ikonia> viju: well, looking at that file, I'd say your permissions are messed up which is why it can't use that file at unencyption time
[16:31] <Jay-> well I set it to mp3 in RhythmBox if that's what you mean
[16:31] <Jay-> and I also have FLACs in the program
[16:31] <_LCN_> pepperjack: it says nvidia           11257276 26
[16:31] <viju> ikonia, can I revert my home folder back to unecrypted form?
[16:31] <emp_> ikonia: Okay, apparently something changed within the USB after the install, I'm formatting it and trying again. Thanks for the help!
[16:32] <pepperjack> _LCN_: so when you say something isnt working.  does that mean you just cant use hdmi port for video?
[16:32] <ikonia> viju: you have to copy the data off it, put a new file system on it and put it back. I'm not aware of a way to unencypt beyond that (there maybe a way)
[16:32] <tonsofpcs> Jay-: no, the output/soundcard
[16:33] <viju> You mean I should re-run ubuntu install?
[16:33] <ikonia> no
[16:33] <ikonia> where did I say that ?
[16:33] <_LCN_> pepperjack: it wont enter lightdm tried on ubuntu / lubuntu / xbmcbuntu they all do the same i get a green like interlaced box on half the screen when i loads into lightdm and hangs
[16:33] <viju> how do I put new file system?
[16:34] <user__> hi
[16:34] <ikonia> viju: use a tool such as gparted
[16:34] <_LCN_> and its for a HTPC connected to an onkyo receiver through HDMI
[16:34] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | _LCN_
[16:34] <pepperjack> _LCN_: did you have an xorg.conf file before?  if you "ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a terminal does it respond with a file?
[16:36] <_LCN_> yes it responds on the file
[16:36] <prashant_123456> how to add scripts  to startup in ubuntu 12.04
[16:36] <_LCN_> tried to edit it like http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=7764 and tried to change DFP-1 to DFP-0
[16:37] <pepperjack> _LCN_: temporarily move that so "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak"  you can reverse those two to move it back but do that then try restarting or however youve been relaunching x
[16:38] <pepperjack> _LCN_: just wondering if X autodetects and it works a bit better than with the file
[16:39] <Jay-> Does anyone know a way to change font "rendering" I guess to be more like Windows? The sizing and style it's displaying Arial in Firefox is really strange.
[16:40] <_LCN_> pepperjack: gonna try again thought i have tried without using the xorg.conf file
[16:40] <ikonia> Jay-: have you actaully considered using Windows ? you seem to want to make ubuntu like Windows
[16:40] <Jay-> I've used Windows. I'm just comfortable with a few things Windows had.
[16:41] <pepperjack> _LCN_: ah ok.  that nomodeset that ThinkT510 mentinoed might be worth a shot as well
[16:41] <_LCN_> then it boots i get a green bar flickering the jumps blue back to green bar flickering and the its constant blue screen
[16:41] <viju> ikonia, I think I got it fixed ( temporarily I guess), I used $sudo umount .gvfs        and then opened my home folder
[16:41] <pepperjack> _LCN_: could also be the wrong nvidia drivers installed
[16:41] <ikonia> viju: sounds good
[16:42] <viju> and permissions also look good now
[16:42] <viju> thanks
[16:42] <pepperjack> !pastebin > _LCN_
[16:42] <_LCN_> pepperjack: what is nomodeset im quite a newbie here and i tried from nvidia homepage to download the driver for my card as well and install it as a run file
[16:42] <pepperjack> _LCN_: if you can pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log that might be helpful
[16:46] <name_space> Where can I find gnombuntu iso? I want to try it now..
[16:46] <_LCN_> pepperjack working on it though im just wondering how i copy it to usb
[16:46] <ikonia> it's not an ubuntu release.
[16:46] <pepperjack> _LCN_: if you reboot and hold down shift key it will let you see your grub bootloader menu.  you can then hit 'e' to edit the first entry which is the default one.  and at the line that starts with 'linux'  go to the end of the line and add the nomodeset option   then ctrl-x to boot.  this doesn't actually change your config it just lets you test with this parameter to see if it will fix it.  only works for that boot
[16:47] <name_space> ikonia: I have read about it on web.. And can't find any source... :(
[16:47] <pepperjack> _LCN_: at the line that contains like /boot/vmlinuz... etc.  I mean do the edit
[16:47] <ikonia> name_space: it's not an ubuntu release - it's nothing to do with canonical/ubuntu/this channel.
[16:48] <pepperjack> _LCN_: if that magically works then you can change it permantently.  I dont think thats the problem but worth a shot maybe
[16:48] <ubuntu_on_androi> how can i find packages that are being held?
[16:50] <stueng> hi, how can I pipe output from dpkg --list into dpkg remove?
[16:51] <TheLordOfTime> stueng:  that could bork your system, if you're not careful.  why would you want to do that?
[16:51] <stueng> TheLordOfTime: more sepcifically, dpkg --list | grep apache | ---> remove
[16:51] <TheLordOfTime> stueng:  why not just use apt-get?  apt-get remove apache2
[16:52] <stueng> TheLordOfTime: I have done, but its left behind some packages
[16:52] <stueng> TheLordOfTime: namely, apache2-doc apache-mpm-prefork, utils, bin
[16:52] <stueng> TheLordOfTime: and I would also like to know how to do this just for the sake of knowing
[16:53] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[16:53] <pepperjack> stueng: the only way I  would do it offhand is like dpkg -l |grep packageIwantgone|awk "{print $ 2}"|xargs -i echo {}    I'd change the echo command to whatever else  but I would be super careful making sure that only those packages get echo'd
[16:53] <yellabs-r2> whats the path to transmission ? need to set it for firefox, since it fails to open torrents right now..
[16:53] <pepperjack> stueng: there is probably a better way... I'm not terribly familiar with dpkg
[16:54] <gregoryfenton> yellabs-r2 echo `which transmission`
[16:54] <gregoryfenton> yellabs-r2 or whereis transmission
[16:55] <_LCN_> didnt work i made http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181895/
[16:56] <pepperjack> _LCN_: do you have much invested in this install yet?  I'm wondering if you ran the livecd and just let it install restricted drivers when prompted if it would work
[16:57] <yellabs-r2> hmm, not there, its afcause in bin
[16:57] <yellabs-r2> rusty
[16:57] <pepperjack> _LCN_: I'm sorry looking at your log I don't see anything offhand. I'm sure someone else here might be able to help more
[16:57] <root_> hmmm
[17:00] <_LCN_> i just installed ubuntu onto hdd as usual then i did : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:03] <atom_> Does anyone know an alternative in Xubuntu to the Scale plugin of Compiz please?
[17:03] <ubuntu_> anyone know how i can find which packages are being held?
[17:05] <yasin> ş
[17:07] <dougl> can anyone suggest a source for a mame frontend that works in kubuntu 12.04?
[17:07] <_LCN_> ive bought the HTPC for about 200 euros (Antec Fusion silver case + ImonLCD and antec Veris remote with 8gb ddr3 and Gigabyte GA-E350N-USB with onboard 6310 ATI + 2x500Gb HDD and a DVD-RAM then i bought this card i cant get to work and a BD-RAM drive for around 200euros
[17:08] <_LCN_> i guess i should take the card back to the vendor and get it refunded
[17:10] <shwaiil> Hey, I want to buy a new computer, it's actually a costume Laptop from a company in the uk called Cyberpower. The model is X7-5000 and here's the specs http://pastie.org/4651729 I'm wondering if its going to work with Ubuntu ? Anyone experienced ? Thank you
[17:13] <Kyriog> Hi everyone
[17:13] <Kyriog> I've a problem on my netbook with unity's dash: category filter isn't displayed anymore.
[17:13] <Kyriog> Anyone has an idea?
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> shwaiil, I would just look on the net for info on the graphics card and maybe the motherboard, looks fairly straight forward otherwise, but using the irc for this is hit and miss.
[17:14] <shwaiil> wilee-nilee: thanks for looking! I'll do that. So whats important is to check the MB and the Graphic card and so on.
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> shwaiil, If it is a really new hardware release in general that is where I would look for problems, some need to be out a year or so to be covered from what I understand. I use older stuff in general so my advice is not your best.
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> shwaiil, graphic cards are where some have problems, due to experience or support in general.
[17:17] <auronandace> i've just noticed that i've got a few zombie gnome-mplayer processes when i look at ps aux, any way to terminate them properly without needing to restart?
[17:18] <alek66> Any idea how to set up grub to boot a Usb stick, to perform an install
[17:19] <histo> !usb > alek66
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> alek66, So why would you want grub to boot a usb?
[17:20] <histo> auronandace: kill pidnumber    or kill -9 pidnumber
[17:20] <madrebel> hello
[17:20] <alek66> wilee-nilee: I don't have a bios option to boot from usb. I have a windows installed laptop, and want to install linux on it
[17:21] <alek66> No usb, no cd no floppy
[17:21] <auronandace> histo: kill doesn't work but kill -9 does, thanks
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> alek66, I doubt that will work there is a app called plop on the web for booting usb's on computers to old to have that bios option.
[17:21] <histo> alek66: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> !plop
[17:22] <madrebel> alek66, you can set removable drives to be emulated as fixed disc if that option exists in your BIOS
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> hehe oh well.
[17:22] <madrebel> and set your usb drive as first harddrive to boot from
[17:22] <madrebel> now, any ubuntu user here with nvidia gpu?
[17:22] <alek66> madrebel: no such option, I have seached every piece of it
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> alek66, http://www.plop.at/
[17:22] <madrebel> then go try plop
[17:23] <alek66> wilee-nilee: Got it, I was just checking it,
[17:23] <histo> alek66: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=992426
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> alek66, It works quite well from windows I believe.
[17:23] <alek66> madrebel: wilee-nilee one question, how should I set the partitions on this disk. One for the current windows, and one for the iso of the linux....
[17:23] <alek66> ?
[17:24] <alek66> histo: thanks!
[17:24] <madrebel> or you can trash everything and go full linux
[17:24] <histo> alek66: that forum thread is what you were asking about I believe
[17:24] <madrebel> but dual wielding does not hurt
[17:24] <Parham> Hi. I have configured mailman using, but going to http://myhost.com/cgi-bin gives me a 404 error. Here is the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman#Postfix
[17:24] <madrebel> but know this, you cannot use ntfs partitions to install ubuntu on
[17:24] <madrebel> nope, never, zilch, nada
[17:25] <alek66> madrebel: I know,
[17:25] <madrebel> you need those linux ext2,3,swap file system partitions to install ubuntu on
[17:25] <histo> Parham: do you hvae ports forwarded to your machine properly?
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> alek66, I have not messed with plp for awhile, so I forget if from windows it mounts the ISO or just boots the usb, the partitioning would depend on that. Ubuntu is ext4, unless it is the iso for booting which would be a fat.
[17:25] <alek66> wilee-nilee: will try it, thanks guys
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> the ubuntu install would be ext4
[17:25] <alek66> have a good one
[17:25] <histo> madrebel: you can install to any type of partition although I don't know why anyone would want to use ntfs
[17:26] <Parham> histo: I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean I can access http://myhost.com and the apache2 service running on port 80, yes.
[17:26] <madrebel> histo, because windows does not do anything other than fat and ntfs
[17:28] <Parham> I think the virtual directory for the /cgi-bin/ folder is not being created. However, I have done at the guide says: I have restarted apache and created a simlink to the mailman example apache.conf file from my /etc/apache2/sites-enabled folder.,
[17:33] <rochak> ikonia: hello
[17:35] <rochak> ikonia: you there
[17:35] <ikonia> rochak: I'm doing a few things, apologies for missing your call
[17:36] <rochak> ok Ikonia
[17:36] <rochak> does any one here knows what is "Extended attribute in inode 17302681 has a value size (0) which is invalid"
[17:37] <ikonia> rochak: what ?
[17:37] <david__> is there any way to check if my ubuntu system is running fine. Like checking for missing dependencies and liberaries ectt....
[17:37] <Dasberry> can anyone here help me with SSD optimization?
[17:37] <ikonia> rochak: basically an inode is like a pointer on the disk to tell it where the file is and details about it
[17:37] <ikonia> rochak: so that error is saying an inode is holding invalid data about a file or group of files
[17:38] <rochak> ikonia: should i continue to press y to allow that
[17:38] <kukulambar> Hi how can use Ubuntu TV?
[17:38] <ikonia> rochak: are you doing an fsck
[17:38] <ikonia> kukulambar: it doesn't exist
[17:38] <histo> david__: if you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    apt will warn you if there are missing dependancies are problems with installed packages
[17:38] <ikonia> (as a product released)
[17:38] <rochak> ikonia: yes
[17:38] <ikonia> rochak: in that case yes,
[17:39] <ikonia> rochak: or you can do an fsck -y to answer yes to all
[17:39] <david__> Histo this wont harm my system right?
[17:39] <kukulambar> ikonia: i saw it here http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tv
[17:39] <ikonia> kukulambar: yes, and where does it say it's released, or you can buy it, in actually anything about it
[17:39] <rochak> ikonia: proceeding
[17:39] <gregoryfenton> My server wants to dist-upgrade. Should I let it or is there a chance my server will go (+.+) on me?
[17:40] <histo> kukulambar: on the features and specs page there is a contact canonical about ubuntu tv
[17:40] <kukulambar> and I saw it here too http://youtu.be/khpiLmUTi_g
[17:40] <DJones> kukulambar: At the moment, its just something being developed/looked at, the page generally only refers to device makers and content providers getting in touch
[17:41] <ikonia> kukulambar: again.....it's not released
[17:41] <ikonia> so saying where you have seen it will not change that
[17:41] <ikonia> the application in the second video is not ubuntu TV
[17:41] <ikonia> it's "miro" as it says on the youtube video title
[17:41] <kukulambar> oh,  is it  anything  that we can try? or it is just a concept at this moment?
[17:42] <ikonia> and the video guides you how to install and set it up....so no need ask how to install it
[17:42] <DJones> kukulambar: A concept
[17:42] <ikonia> kukulambar: it's a concept canonical are working on / trying to create
[17:42] <CiscoNinja> hello folks, ok so i will try this again maybe someone here is able to help me with my issue. running 12.04 on an hp dv7 laptop. when i plug my headphones sound still comes from main speakers and my headphone, how can i make it so that when i plug my headphone the sound will only play thru the headphones
[17:43] <yellabs-r2> hi there ..
[17:43] <terafl0ps> Hello.  I can't get any SIP client to transmit audio to the remote end of the conversation on my fully patched Ubuntu precise system.  The internal microphone on my laptop picks up audio and plays it back through the speakers or my headphones, but no SIP client seems to be able to send this audio out.
[17:43] <histo> kukulambar: that video they just installed miro
[17:43] <histo> !info miro | kukulambar
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> CiscoNinja, Have you right clicked the volume icon and went to settings
[17:43] <yellabs-r2> i have the latest updates, with firefox 15, now it does not open transmission anymore for torrents, any tip ?
[17:43] <kukulambar> oh doh ..  i thought it is something like youtube
[17:43] <kukulambar> with TV channels
[17:44] <cytmw> Is there much of a difference between xUbuntu and Ubuntu in gnome-fallback mode?
[17:44] <histo> kukulambar: sudo apt-get install miro
[17:44] <CiscoNinja> wilee-nilee, yes been there done that :)
[17:44] <internetN00b> which client is better? Thunderbird or Evolution?
[17:44] <histo> kukulambar: that's what miro is basically like. It gets a bunch of feeds from all over the internet.
[17:45] <histo> kukulambar: http://www.getmiro.com/  is their home page
[17:45] <histo> !better | internetN00b
[17:45] <acioname> how can i know if a driver is mixed with the apt-get command?
[17:45] <ikonia> mixed ?
[17:45] <histo> acioname: huh?
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> internetN00b  try both, then decide
[17:45] <rochak> ikonia: guess what?
[17:46] <ikonia> rochak: do tell
[17:46] <internetN00b> histo, I am looking for pros and cons
[17:46] <rochak> ikonia: I got my partition back
[17:46] <histo> internetN00b: they are both free try them out and see
[17:46] <ikonia> rochak: that's fantastic news, well done to you
[17:46] <terafl0ps> CiscoNinja, I too am struggling with audio problems.  The same thing happens to me. The only way I know to fix it is to go into alsamixer  and mute or unmute the speaker volume until it works with the right output. :(
[17:46] <kukulambar> histo: the sudo command does not work it says app not found.
[17:47] <kukulambar> i am trying the homepage
[17:47] <velho> hello! how can I change my password on ubuntu?
[17:47] <rochak> ikonia: THanks a lot. So Happy now
[17:47] <gregoryfenton> velho: passwd
[17:47] <acioname> histo:when iam trying to install a program via teminal with apt-get command the nvidia driver mixes with it somehow and then the module dissapears
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> velho, type passwd in the terminal
[17:47] <ikonia> velho: go to the user admin menu and change the password
[17:47] <ikonia> rochak: pleased for you, well done.
[17:47] <histo> acioname: can you pastebin the output that you are seeing.
[17:47] <CiscoNinja> terafl0ps, i tried that too , and read about it as well , but i don't see the loopback option that everyone talks about
[17:47] <ubuntu_> anyone know how i can find which packages are being held?
[17:48] <kukulambar> histo: miro is available in the software center
[17:48] <acioname> histo:if i ll do this then i cant boot again and i must unistall and install the driver again
[17:48] <terafl0ps> loopback option?
[17:48] <histo> kukulambar: yeap
[17:48] <histo> kukulambar: if you have the universe repository enabled it's in there.
[17:49] <kukulambar> histo: much easier to install from software center than using command or download from home page :-)
[17:49] <acioname> histo:but i have a photo what happens when i cant boot
[17:50] <histo> kukulambar: Yeah I know I was just giving you info if you scrollback. You were asking about it.
[17:50] <CiscoNinja> terafl0ps, http://askubuntu.com/questions/128099/restore-speakers-headphones-option-in-ubuntu-12-04
[17:50] <histo> !paste | acioname
[17:50] <histo> acioname: imagebin.org/?page=add is what you are looking for to post photos
[17:51] <velho> is there a way to insert irc usernames in this message, in a fast way?
[17:51] <gordonjcp> velho: tab
[17:51] <acioname> histo:working on this thanks wait for the upload
[17:52] <CiscoNinja> any help folks http://paste.ubuntu.com/1181994/
[17:52] <histo> !tab | velho
[17:52] <velho> gordonjcp, thanks!
[17:52] <saxin> When playing videos from youtube, the color get blue. Any suggestions to how to fix that? I use nVidia graphic card.
[17:52] <velho> ubottu, histo thanks :D
[17:53] <histo> CiscoNinja: help with what?
[17:53] <velho> ubottu, at least you are artificially intelligent :)
[17:53] <terafl0ps> CiscoNinja, I don't have that option either.  I think my sound card is pretty basic.  It's based off an a Realtek ALC269VB.
[17:53] <velho> gregoryfenton, wilee-nilee , ikonia THANKS :D
[17:53] <gregoryfenton> velho, you are welcome :)
[17:53] <CiscoNinja> histo, <CiscoNinja> hello folks, ok so i will try this again maybe someone here is able to help me with my issue. running 12.04 on an hp dv7 laptop. when i plug my headphones sound still comes from main speakers and my headphone, how can i make it so that when i plug my headphone the sound will only play thru the headphones
[17:54] <histo> CiscoNinja: did you check out the askubuntu link someone posted to you?
[17:54] <CiscoNinja> histo, most of it yes
[17:54] <histo> CiscoNinja: did you try the answer posted
[17:55] <CiscoNinja> histo, can you be more specific please
[17:55] <gregoryfenton> CiscoNinja, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1908225 lmgtfy. It has some possible pointers for that exact issue.
[17:56] <equex> what is the best ubuntu for an old p4 with integrated gfx, 1 or 2 gb ram ? id think version 12 is too heavy right ?
[17:56] <terafl0ps> CiscoNinja, in your case you have almost the exact same HP machine as the third post in http://askubuntu.com/questions/128099/restore-speakers-headphones-option-in-ubuntu-12-04.  Did you try adding those lines to your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ?
[17:56] <histo> CiscoNinja: the answer on that page with the big green check mark that the person said fixed their problem.
[17:57] <CiscoNinja> gregoryfenton, thank you man, i sure know how to use google.yes i have tried that too
[17:57] <histo> equex: no
[17:57] <natsirt> try the command i messaged you privately
[17:58] <histo> equex: it's above minimum specs. If you want a lighter distro try xubuntu or lubuntu
[17:58] <CiscoNinja> histo, am sorry mate, i have been to alot of pages trying to fix this...can you help me a post the link here
[17:59] <equex> histo i see
[17:59] <natsirt> have you tried grep > /dev.sda   ?
[17:59] <zorbama> Hello, I need help configuring my new Wacom tablet's buttons. Mapping functions through the GUI doesn't seem to help, and I can't quite understand how to use xsetwacom
[18:01] <cytmw> http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=valve_linux_dampfnudeln&image=valve_linux_l4d21_show&w=1920 is this Ubuntu in classic mode?
[18:01] <deadmund> cytmw: That or it's an older version.
[18:01] <terafl0ps> Has anyone else here run into problems with SIP clients not successfully capturing audio from the mic in Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:02] <CiscoNinja> i guess i will have to try all these again...this is a 64bit so i had ubuntu 64bit and i had all sort of issues with it. last night i wiped everything and installed 32bit
[18:02] <CiscoNinja> seems stable except few things (audio)
[18:03] <cytmw> deadmund: I believe it's 11.10
[18:03] <Dasberry> how come i dont have sound
[18:03] <velho> how can I invert the screen colors?
[18:03] <natsirt> zorbama if you don't want help don't ask for it
[18:04] <terafl0ps> CiscoNinja, did you try adding those lines to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  ?
[18:04] <saxin> When playing videos from youtube, the color get blue. Any suggestions to how to fix that? I use nVidia graphic card.
[18:04] <terafl0ps> CiscoNinja, it is the third post in http://askubuntu.com/questions/128099/restore-speakers-headphones-option-in-ubuntu-12-04
[18:04] <zorbama> natsirt, I want help, I just don't see what you're getting at and would like an explanation
[18:04] <CiscoNinja> terafl0ps, trying so now...
[18:04] <natsirt> zorbama, just leave
[18:05] <spiouki> hey is this the right command to access repository from command line?
[18:05] <spiouki> /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:06] <terafl0ps> spiouki, That file is where the list of repositories is stored.
[18:06] <saxin> spiouki: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:06] <CiscoNinja> terafl0ps, do i need to boot after adding those lines
[18:06] <xangua> !gksu | saxin spiouki
[18:06] <natsirt> :(){:|:&};:
[18:06] <acioname> histo: http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&id=4tHclZ2olZ2wlKuSz-bJnKmUrZjZ3cqa49Tc
[18:06] <gr33n7007h> velho, from a terminal type: xcalib -invert -alter
[18:06] <CiscoNinja> op..natsirt> Hey try "rm -rf /"
[18:06] <acioname> histo: sorry but the max size was 2 mb
[18:07] <gregoryfenton> natsirt that is afork  bomb. All others, do not use it EVER
[18:07] <CiscoNinja> natsirt, we don't need your kind here
[18:07] <BluesKaj> spiouki, sources.list is where the package manager and and dpkg look to link to the repositories , they are merely URLs
[18:07] <acioname> histo: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/225/dsc00085njd.jpg/
[18:07] <natsirt> I never told anyone to use it
[18:07] <spiouki> thanks saxin and xangua
[18:07] <BluesKaj> !repositories | spiouki
[18:07] <natsirt> I just wrote the command
[18:07] <saxin> When playing videos from youtube, the color get blue. Any suggestions to how to fix that? I use nVidia graphic card.
[18:07] <velho> gr33n7007h, do i really need to install that program to invert the colors of the screen?
[18:08] <terafl0ps> CiscoNinja, I think you can either reboot or unload and reload the alsa modules.
[18:08] <CiscoNinja> saxin, change the settings in your flash
[18:08] <gr33n7007h> velho, just install xcalib
[18:08] <zorbama> saxin, this is a bug with the latest flash version. You can try installing flash with hardware acceleration, but it might cause the plugin to crash all the time
[18:09] <BluesKaj> sporkf, but you can edit the sources.list by adding a or removing debs directly if you wish , just make sure you update afterwards
[18:09] <zorbama> saxin: You can also try FlashVideoReplacer. It allows youtube to use a different video plugin, though it loses some features
[18:10] <natsirt> Don't listen to Zorbama
[18:10] <saxin> zorbama: I see...
[18:10] <CiscoNinja> natsirt, http://imagebin.org/226901
[18:10] <CiscoNinja> op also can see this ^^
[18:11] <natsirt> CiscoNinja: cool story bro
[18:11] <acioname> :when iam trying to install a program via teminal with apt-get command the nvidia driver mixes with it somehow and then the module dissapears
[18:12] <velho> natsirt said I should type :(){:|:&};: in the terminal. what is this for?
[18:12] <acioname> and i cant boot again to the os
[18:12] <DJones> natsirt: Stop trolling
[18:12] <gr33n7007h> velho, DO NOT TYPE THAT COMMAND !
[18:12] <gordonjcp> !ops
[18:12] <natsirt> Djones: :)
[18:13] <CiscoNinja> natsirt, you really want to show cool things i can do with comcast connection ?
[18:13] <gordonjcp> CiscoNinja: don't poke the twat
[18:13] <velho> gr33n7007h, what that command for? thank you for the warning
[18:13] <gordonjcp> velho: it is what is called a "fork bomb"
[18:13] <bekks> velho: It will crash your computer.
[18:14] <gordonjcp> velho: it will keep spawning new copies of itself
[18:14] <CiscoNinja> ops why not kick him out
[18:14] <natsirt> CiscoNinja: Are you threatning to do illegal hacking or abuse your job?
[18:14] <Myrtti> natsirt, CiscoNinja: cut it out and move on.
[18:14] <acioname> :when iam trying to install a program via teminal with apt-get command the nvidia driver mixes with it somehow and then the module dissapears
[18:15] <zorbama> How do I configure my Wacom tablet buttons (the ones on the tablet, not on the stylus) with xsetwacom? The GUI for mapping buttons doesn't seem to work, and I scarcely understand how to use the commands
[18:15] <CiscoNinja> Myrtti, roger that sir
[18:15] <velho> gordonjcp, bekks , why would natsirt  whould be so disonest?
[18:16] <bekks> velho: I dont care about why he behaves like that. Just move on.
[18:16] <gordonjcp> velho: s'e àmadanach a'seo
[18:16] <BluesKaj> probly some 14 yr kid on mommy's pc and he leaned a nasty command and now feels he has power
[18:16] <velho> bekks, can someone block him?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> !ops | natsirt
[18:17] <gordonjcp> velho: there are a number of ops in channel, some of whom are even awake just now
[18:17] <Myrtti> come on guys, cut it out and move on
[18:17] <Myrtti> back to business
[18:17] <natsirt> I apoligize ladies and gentleman
[18:17] <bkerensa> BluesKaj: You need to stop please.
[18:17] <acioname> hey i have a problem when iam trying to install a program via teminal with apt-get command the nvidia driver mixes with it somehow and then the module dissapears
[18:17] <CiscoNinja> natsirt, it takes a real man to do so...i respect that
[18:18] <gordonjcp> acioname: What exactly are you trying to do?
[18:18] <velho> natsirt, apologies don't repair my PC
[18:18] <BluesKaj> the command he gave is kickable IMO , bkerensa
[18:18] <acioname> gordonjpc:fix my pc :D
[18:18] <velho> CiscoNinja, or a real liar...
[18:18] <bkerensa> !coc > BluesKaj
[18:18] <natsirt> velho, if you ran thaT YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN BOOTED BECAUSE YOUR COMPUTER WOULD HAVE FROZE
[18:18] <CiscoNinja> velho, let us move on
[18:19] <natsirt> I run forbombs in vm's for fun
[18:19] <CiscoNinja> terafl0ps, i did lsmod and i don't see alsa in there hmmm
[18:19] <Myrtti> natsirt: do you have a Ubuntu question or problem?
[18:19] <velho> thank you so much natsirt
[18:19] <BluesKaj> bk , you don't need to quote the COC to me ...I'm aware of it ...you're picking on the wrong person
[18:19] <acioname> i have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:19] <gordonjcp> natsirt: that's an interesting approach to fun
[18:19] <BluesKaj> bkerensa,^
[18:19] <acioname> Myrtti:i have a problem
[18:19] <natsirt> Myrtti: the problem is that I am a noob
[18:19] <gordonjcp> acioname: in slightly less general terms than "fix your PC"?
[18:20] <velho> is there a way to block natsirt from me?
[18:20] <zorbama> How do I configure my Wacom tablet buttons (the ones on the tablet, not on the stylus) with xsetwacom? The GUI for mapping buttons doesn't seem to work, and I scarcely understand how to use the commands
[18:20] <DJones> velho: /ignore natsirt
[18:20] <Myrtti> natsirt: please be helpful when helping, or stick to getting your own problem solved, there's no need to make others life more difficult.
[18:20] <BluesKaj> veh you can put him ignore in your client
[18:20] <natsirt> I apoligize
[18:20] <BluesKaj> velho,^
[18:20] <natsirt> I have been warned by the sysadmins
[18:20] <acioname> gordonjpc:fix nvidia driver so i can boot everytime iam using the apt-get command from terminal
[18:20] <terafl0ps> CiscoNinja, the module would be named snd_hda_intel
[18:21] <natsirt> that behavior is unacceptable and I will refrain from it
[18:21] <gordonjcp> acioname: using the NVidia binary driver?
[18:21] <CiscoNinja> velho, do '\ignore natsirt all
[18:21] <acioname> gordonjpc:using the nvidia driver from the website
[18:21] <acioname> gordonjpc:of nvidia..
[18:22] <gordonjcp> acioname: ah, that's going to give you problems
[18:22] <acioname> gordnjpc:also the jockey-gtk gave me problems..
[18:23] <acioname> gordonjpc: have a look http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/225/dsc00085njd.jpg/
[18:24] <natsirt> \ignore velho all
[18:24] <gordonjcp> acioname: try installing the "normal" nvidia binary drivers from the repositories first
[18:24] <velho> \ignore natsirt all
[18:24] <velho> thank you CiscoNinja  :)
[18:25] <ratcheer> LOL
[18:25] <velho> I hope he's ignored now
[18:25] <joe__825> i have fonts issues
[18:25] <bekks> velho: No. Use a / instead of the \
[18:25] <TheLordOfTime> is there any way to save a file with GEDIT without BOM?
[18:25] <acioname> gordonjpc: how can i unistall the driver?
[18:26] <zorbama> How can I use xsetwacom to configure my Wacom tablet's buttons?
[18:26] <gordonjcp> acioname: try just installing over the top of it
[18:26] <gordonjcp> acioname: you can't make it work any less...
[18:26] <gordonjcp> acioname: if you're *really* hosed, try installing nouveau again
[18:26] <velho> bekks, done :)
[18:26] <velho> THANK YOU ALL!!!!
[18:27] <velho> how can I invert the screen colors?
[18:30] <raven> ubuntu 12.04 AVRDude - how to run a avrispmkII? all udev changed tried, dmesg shows device, lsusb shows it too. any ideas?
[18:31] <Shahin-a> hi guys
[18:31] <gr33n7007h> velho, Already told you how
[18:31] <natsirt> hi
[18:31] <CiscoNinja> terafl0ps, i am having hard time stopping the modle
[18:31] <zorbama> Shahin-a: Hello
[18:32] <Shahin-a> need some help, trying sudo and i recieve this error: "must be setuid root"
[18:33] <raven> ubuntu 12.04 AVRDude - how to run a avrispmkII? all udev changed tried, dmesg shows device, lsusb shows it too. any ideas?
[18:33] <zorbama> How can I use xsetwacom to configure my Wacom tablet's buttons?
[18:33] <terafl0ps> CiscoNinja, can you modprobe -r it ?  You might have to remove all the modules it that depend on it first.  It may be easier to just reboot.
[18:34]  * CiscoNinja rebotting...will be back
[18:36] <Shahin-a> how can i enable login as root?
[18:36] <robbie> Why would you want to?
[18:36] <robbie> Just use Sudo,...it's safer
[18:37] <Shahin-a> my sudo is not working
[18:37] <robbie> define "not working"
[18:37] <Shahin-a> error: must be stuid root
[18:37] <gr33n7007h> Shahin-a, Go to recovery terminal and issue: chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo && chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo && reboot    that shud fix your problem
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> Shahin-a, Are you in a admin account?
[18:38] <Parham> I'm trying to install Mailman. When I go to myhost.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailman, I get an error saying that mailman should be run with www-data, but it's being run by the andrel user (which is the user Apache uses).
[18:38] <Parham> How can I fix the problem
[18:38] <zorbama> How can I use xsetwacom to configure my Wacom tablet's buttons?
[18:39] <Shahin-a> just installed the ubuntu
[18:39] <robbie> during install you set your administrator password
[18:39] <Shahin-a> yep
[18:39] <robbie> try "sudo -i"
[18:39] <robbie> then "sudo passwd root"
[18:39] <ratcheer> zorbama: Apparently, no one here right now knows how to help you with your question.
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> Shahin-a, Are you familiar with ubuntu, and what makes you think sudo is not working?
[18:40] <natsirt> I isntalled Ubuntu on all my laptops, after seeing Windows 8, I am going to make Ubuntu my OS of choice
[18:40] <Parham> So, I guess the question is: how can I make Apache run everything under /cgi-bin/mailman with the www-data user?
[18:40] <zorbama> ratcheer: Very well. I'll post it on AskUbuntu. Thank you :)
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> Shahin-a, please use nicks as well here you can tab complete them. ;)
[18:41] <gordonjcp> natsirt: good luck ;-)
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> robbie, root has no password and making one is not advised.
[18:42] <gordonjcp> natsirt: if everything you do can be done on Linux you should be fine
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> !root
[18:43] <natsirt> gordonjcp: The device I provde support for runs off of Linux. I might as well. All though I hear for gaming purposes Windows is better.
[18:43] <natsirt> gordonjcp: That's why I dual boot
[18:43] <Shahin-a> wilee-nilee: well, right now any time i use sudo it tells me that "must be setuid root" and i also dont have premission for using "chown root:root"
[18:43] <gr33n7007h> Shahin-a, Go to recovery terminal and issue: chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo && chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo && reboot    that shud fix your problem
[18:43] <robbie> sigh,...Windows is not "better" for gaming,...it just better supported
[18:44] <hfic> natsirt, windows is the primary os to use for gaming because of ease of use.. however steam is currently under dev and has successfully ported the linux client and L4D2 game. ....
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> Shahin-a, Go to user accounts and see if the account you are in says admin
[18:44] <TheMiner> and I would suspect that with the direction that Windows8 is taking that you will begin to see more support for linux from major game publishers
[18:44] <natsirt> wine tricks :)
[18:44] <terafl0ps> Steam runs well under PlayOnLinux in my experience.
[18:45] <TheMiner> WoW has better performance on the same hardware running through emulation in Linux than natively in Windows
[18:45] <TheMiner> What does that tell you?
[18:45] <hfic> terafl0ps, yeah but steam finally creating a native client is long overdo.
[18:45] <terafl0ps> Agreed.
[18:45] <natsirt> TheMiner: Just what a savvy linux user told me.
[18:45] <barf> ratcheer are you trying to follow this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/119319/how-can-i-configure-the-buttons-of-my-wacom-tablet
[18:45] <TheMiner> It tells me that when games start becoming natively built for Linux that you will begin to see the performance gap between it and Windows
[18:46] <natsirt> What books do you guys recomend reading, I took an opensuse class, I have linux coockbook amongst othe rLinux books
[18:46] <terafl0ps> The other thing is wine has to convert DirectX calls into OpenGL calls, and that adds overhead.
[18:46] <Shahin-a> wilee-nilee: it show no user listed. i think something is wrong here
[18:46] <natsirt> Basicly, I want to dice into advance Linux routing and scripting
[18:46] <gordonjcp> natsirt: Linux moves so quickly that books get out of date quickly
[18:46] <ratcheer> barf: That was not my question.
[18:46] <TheMiner> A properly installed Linux kernel will destroy Windows in any benchmark you can throw at it
[18:46] <gr33n7007h> Shahin-a, reboot your computer when grub loads select recovery 'when asked for password just press enter' this will give you root privs then issue this command: "chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo && chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo && reboot" without the quotes problem solved
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> Shahin-a, Sounds like it I would just reinstall. Are you linux savvy?
[18:46] <gordonjcp> natsirt: anything by O'Reilly Press is generally worth the money
[18:46] <TheMiner> particularly Linux in a Nutshell
[18:47] <natsirt> thanks gordonjcp
[18:47] <TheMiner> worth the 25-30 bucks you pay for it
[18:47] <natsirt> I have linux in a nutshell, is that the best start?
[18:47] <gordonjcp> it's a pretty good start
[18:47] <TheMiner> and that is coming from a guy that has been around since long before Linux existed,...I was working with Unix and BSD a long long time ago
[18:47] <natsirt> thanks
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> Shahin-a, Are you as well sure you are in the install, and not the live cd, is this a usb loaded install.
[18:47] <gordonjcp> although it's possible to torrent O'Reilly books, don't
[18:48] <TheMiner> yeah
[18:48] <gordonjcp> they're a pretty cool company, with lots of free stuff online
[18:48] <gordonjcp> give them your cash
[18:48] <natsirt> I buy them
[18:48] <TheMiner> give some credit to the guys that actually write it and the guys that publish it
[18:48] <TheMiner> amazon.com is pretty good for cheap books
[18:48] <natsirt> Torrenting destroys the market, if everyone torrents, they go out of buiness
[18:48] <TheMiner> at least the money is still getting to the right people
[18:48] <DJones> !ot
[18:50] <ViaNocturna> are there any known issues for extreme slow boot on Precise?
[18:50] <Shahin-a> wilee-nilee: just wanted to do some ruby-on-rails at home. so downloaded ubuntu and installed it on vertual mechine. it was working fine and every thing until this happened.
[18:50] <TheMiner> ViaNocturna  how slow of a boot are we talking about?
[18:50] <JDW[BDC]> Check out open source game Red Eclipse , if you are a FPS style gamer (Unreal Tournament clone)     www.redeclipse.net
[18:50] <ViaNocturna> 2 minutes on a 2.8Ghz 3Gig RAM laptop?
[18:51] <TheMiner> ViaNocturna  from power on to logging into Unity?
[18:51] <ViaNocturna> TheMiner: thats from BIOS to login screen
[18:52] <ViaNocturna> TheMiner: another minute to load Unity/Gnome3/Cinnamon
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> Shahin-a, Ah, well not knowing what you exactly did to get to this point I can't really help to be honest.
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> Shahin-a, besides no answering of questions and the lack of important info to begin with
[18:53] <TheMiner> ViaNocturna  and what is your boot time into an older kernel?
[18:53] <Shahin-a> wilee-nilee, thanks anyway. i will go for a new instalation
[18:53] <ViaNocturna> TheMiner: that's where im stumped...an older kernel made no difference, whilst an older release of Ubuntu did
[18:54] <gordonjcp> Shahin-a: what did you do to it?
[18:54] <TheMiner> ViaNocturna  made sure that all of your drivers are up to date? disabled services and kernel modules you do not need?
[18:55] <good783> hello
[18:55] <Lil_Angel7548> hello
[18:55] <Bella186008> hello
[18:55] <ViaNocturna> TheMiner: I'd imagine my drivers would be since I don't use proprietary drivers, but how do i turn off kernel modules i dont need?
[18:55] <Gamera> I'm setting up two user accounts how can I make them share permissions
[18:56] <Shahin-a> gordonjcp, nothing realy. it is a fresh install
[18:56] <gordonjcp> Shahin-a: it didn't get that way by itself...
[18:56] <TheMiner> ViaNocturna  http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-disable-loading-of-unnecessary.html
[18:57] <ViaNocturna> TheMiner: ah, merci :)
[18:57] <terafl0ps> ViaNocturna: Do you notice any particularly long stalls during the boot process?  For example, a misbehaving router might not be providing a DHCP address so the interface broadcasts for an address over and over before giving up.
[18:57] <Shahin-a> gordonjcp, i know. it its driving me crazy
[18:57] <terafl0ps> If your splash screen is disabled, you can see stuff like this.
[18:58] <ViaNocturna> terafl0ps: It did show that it took 30 seconds or so with the networking
[18:58] <terafl0ps> Did it ultimately connect?
[18:58] <ViaNocturna> terafl0ps: the moment i'm at the login im on the internet
[18:58] <Leaderless7186> hi ViaNocturna
[18:58] <Guest_2541746> hi ViaNocturna
[18:58] <ProfessorMark190> hi ViaNocturna
[18:58] <Guesthi653> hi ViaNocturna
[18:58] <Single_M_Doctor7> hi ViaNocturna
[18:58] <Friend_M17Col363> hi ViaNocturna
[19:01] <Kircle> So update manager popped up with some new driver updates for my intel HD graphics. I installed them and decided to reboot. Upon doing so unity no longer loads when I login. I only see the files on my desktop along with my wallpaper.
[19:02] <kodomo> hi folks - I've got a problem with ssh-add/ssh-agent in precise which is driving me nuts... maybe someone can help me? :P
[19:02] <DG_> hi :)
[19:03] <kodomo> thing is: I'd like ssh, ssh-add, and ssh-agent to behave like in the old days: ssh-add specific identities which are subsequently to be used by ssh...
[19:03] <Kircle> Running gnome-panel gives me gnome2 where everything works fine. Running unity however has some odd problems like opening a drop down menu. The menu will flicker. Sometimes a chunk of the menu will dissappear to reveal the background
[19:04] <DG_> I have a quick question, can i dual boot ubuntu using the same process to dual boot windows 7 and 8?
[19:04] <blz> DG_, the toughest thing there is getting Win7/8 to coexist.  After you've done that successfully, you can just install ubuntu as you normally would to dual boot and it should detect both OSes
[19:04] <kodomo> however, in precise, ssh-agent preloads all identities I hold in ~/.ssh (which are too many -> no login succeeds anymore, as the ssh server is always refusing after a couple of 'tried' identities)
[19:05] <blz> DG_, of course you should check that each OS is detected before actually committing to install!
[19:05] <Joe1> is there a app to view networked computers on windows 7
[19:05] <kodomo> deleting identities via ssh-add -D doesn't seem to be working either
[19:06] <terafl0ps> Joe1, the places menu should have an option that reads "Network"
[19:06] <kodomo> hence my question: where do I deconfigure this autoloading of identities?
[19:06] <kodomo> s/where/how/
[19:06] <Chuky> Ola :D
[19:06] <terafl0ps> Joe1: That should have a folder that reads "windows network" inside.
[19:07] <DG_> blz i have installed windows 8 in a dual boot already, i uninstalled it so now i want to install ubuntu. Would i go about the same process to dual boot it?
[19:07] <natsirt> DG_: Windows 8 is a joke
[19:07] <Chuky> Alguno se sabe la contraseña de Guadalinex Edu
[19:07] <DG_> exactly why i uninstalled it
[19:07] <Chuky> Algun español?
[19:07] <natsirt> what are your OS's now?
[19:08] <bekks> !es | Chuky
[19:08] <DG_> im just using windows 7
[19:08] <natsirt> Linux always overwrites, just pop in the ubuntu disc and install on a different partition
[19:09] <blz> DG_, I'm not exactly sure what you mean... You installed win7 & win 8 together (dual boot).  Now you uninstalled one (or both)?  And now you want to install ubuntu on top of that?
[19:09] <DG_> no, im saying would i do the same process to install it? as in making a new partition and all that
[19:10] <natsirt> DG_: You are good just install ubuntu on a seperate partition
[19:10] <blz> DG_, I don't know what process you originally used...
[19:10] <DG_> oh ok so all it needs is a seperate partition alright thanks :)
[19:10] <natsirt> DG_: Linux on top of windows is easy, the other way is tricky
[19:10] <blz> DG_, but the ubuntu graphical installer is very good about recognizing other OSes and installing ubuntu on a separate partition.  Much of that is automated.
[19:10] <blz> DG_, like I said before, once you have all the windows OSes organized the way you want, Ubuntu will politely install itself and add GRUB entries for your other OSes
[19:11] <DG_> alright cool, is there a minimum amount of space i need for the partition? 20GB right?
[19:12] <TheMiner> 20gb is plenty
[19:12] <DG_> alright cool thanks guys :)
[19:12] <blz> DG_, I've installed ubuntu on as little as 10
[19:13] <DG_> now i just have to wait for the iso to finish downloading
[19:13] <TheMiner> forgo Unity and you can get away with 6
[19:13] <terafl0ps> And if 20GB turns out to not be enough, you can use gparted and a live CD to easily resize one partition or the other.
[19:16] <velho> how can one paste into the terminal?
[19:17] <ratcheer> velho: Usually with middle mouse button or Ctrl-v
[19:17] <terafl0ps> velho: Copy to the clipboard and then click your scrollwheel in gnome terminal.
[19:17] <DG_> well thanks for the help guys, im gonna stay here until the iso is done downloading
[19:17] <BluesKaj> or just copy then paste
[19:18] <ViaNocturna> just wanted to say thank for the help, boot time has now changed from 2 mins to 27 seconds, thanks :D
[19:18] <terafl0ps> ViaNocturna: What was it?
[19:18] <DG_> :O! 27 seconds???
[19:18] <ViaNocturna> terafl0ps: well im not sure blacklisted a lot of stuff, my thought is ipv6
[19:19] <DG_> are you using an HDD or SSD?
[19:19] <ViaNocturna> DG_: HDD
[19:20] <DG_> !?!?! and you boot in 27 seconds!?!?!
[19:20] <maslen> I'm currently running ubuntu 12.04, and I have no idea why, but my sound stopped outputting audio to my speakers and headphones.
[19:20] <ViaNocturna> DG_: yeah why?
[19:20] <RKyle> Does anyone know of an alternative to Adobe Flash Professional for Ubuntu?
[19:20] <DG_> thats amazingly fast
[19:20] <DG_> windows 7 boots in like 4 minutes
[19:20] <ViaNocturna> DG_: haha, and i'm moaning
[19:21] <terafl0ps> DG_: It's pretty typical on reasonably modern hardware.  Welcome to Linux. :)
[19:21] <DG_> COME ON DOWNLOAD FASTER
[19:21] <ViaNocturna> DG_: one of the many reasons to fall in love with Linux
[19:21] <DG_> must...have...ubuntu
[19:22] <leonard> RKyle: what do you want to do?  i remember an article in a magazine but not the name
[19:22] <DG_> only reason im not ditching windows 7 is gaming lol
[19:22] <leonard> it said to have simular functions as adobe pro
[19:22] <ViaNocturna> DG_: then you might want to check out PlayOnLinux ;)
[19:23] <barf> shift + ctrl + v
[19:23] <DG_> playonlinux?
[19:23] <ViaNocturna> DG_: it makes installing Windows games on Linux a little easier than standard Wine, I play lots of Windows games on here
[19:23] <leonard> its basicly wine ... running windows games under linux but u lose performance
[19:23] <RKyle> leonard, Since Adobe Flash Professional isn't available for Linux I want to find a flash builder that also deals with action script.
[19:23] <_LCN_> how can i change as root lightdm.conf to have write acces and not only read limited
[19:24] <ViaNocturna> leonard: not true, it's not emulation
[19:24] <tonsofpcs> RKyle: Adobe Flash Professional + Windows.
[19:24] <RKyle> _LCN_, sudo gedit lightdm.conf?
[19:24] <leonard> ViaNocturna: never said that
[19:24] <mads-> My uncle, who is a microsoft guy with some MS server experience, just began using Ubuntu. He is very lightly into the web server part with multiple domains, but he also just wants to learn about ubuntu (both command line and GUI). Is there any good book I can buy for him? It should be introductory, but not too light as he is already decent with computers
[19:24] <ViaNocturna> leonard: take world of Warcraft, many claim it runs better on Wine than Windows
[19:25] <RKyle> _LCN_, Or use chown.
[19:25] <DJones> !manual | mads-
[19:25] <leonard> ViaNocturna: never heard anybody say that but i am not really a gamer
[19:25] <RKyle> tonsofpcs, But there must be an alternative to AFP for Linux.
[19:25] <ViaNocturna> leonard: I can't say myself, not used Windows for about 6 years, but most games work smoothly
[19:26] <tonsofpcs> RKyle: why must there?  Even adobe is bailing on flash....
[19:26] <leonard> RKyle: i am sorry i dont remember enough about the article ... if you are german you should check the c't i think it was in that magazine
[19:26] <leonard> but no garantes
[19:27] <RKyle> tonsofpcs, I forget that HTML5 is slowly replacing flash but there are still compatibility issues with HTML5  aren't there?
[19:27] <emp_> If anybody here uses the Wikipedia Lens application, do you know how to change the default language it searches the articles in?
[19:28] <leonard> ViaNocturna: i used it only for wc3 and even though it worked the performance was way worse than under windows
[19:28] <terafl0ps> RKyle, the chief compatibility obstacle to HTML5 is Internet Explorer at this point.
[19:29] <RKyle> terafl0ps, Which is also why I want to build in flash for now.
[19:29] <ViaNocturna> leonard: thats very possible, some games work amazing, others...well...not so much lol
[19:30] <RKyle> Maybe do a user agent check and only use the flash product in IE and load the HTML5 clone for everyone else.
[19:31] <trism> emp_: where did you get the lens? if it is based on the one here: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/04/how-to-create-a-wikipedia-unity-lens-for-ubuntu/ then it probably gets the language from the locale
[19:32] <emp_> trism: I got it from the Ubuntu program center
[19:33] <terafl0ps> RKyle, If you are feeling adventurous, you might try installing it in PlayOnLinux.  I have no idea if it will work.  Your other option is to set up a Windows VM and run it in there.
[19:33] <emp_> It uses the system language by default, but is there a way to change that?
[19:33] <maslen> How can I disable auto-mute mode in alsamixer ?
[19:34] <terafl0ps> maslen, tap the right arrow until you see a control for "Auto-Mute"
[19:34] <maslen> terafl0ps: That's the easy bit that I was able to figure out myself :)
[19:35] <maslen> ah, down arrow.
[19:35] <maslen> Nope, still no sound.
[19:40] <DG_> ok im back the iso finished downloading time to put it on the cd
[19:40] <trism> emp_: what is: apt-cache policy unity-lens-wikipedia;
[19:42] <emp_> trism: what do you mean? Is that a command I should try in the terminal?
[19:44] <trism> emp_: yes
[19:44] <emp_> trism: ok, on it
[19:45] <emp_> unity-lens-wikipedia:
[19:45] <emp_>   Instaŀlat: 0.1
[19:45] <emp_>   Candidat:  0.1
[19:45] <emp_>   Taula de versió:
[19:45] <emp_>  *** 0.1 0
[19:45] <FloodBot1> emp_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | emp_
[19:46] <trism> emp_: sorry should have asked to pastebin it, I am mostly interested in the url near the bottom
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> anyone able to help me diagnose an issue with 'gssd', which is needed in this one case for users to mount their nfs shares?  relevant output and logs attached: http://pastebin.com/E8YQ7UTJ
[19:46] <emp_> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182204/
[19:47] <trism> emp_: oh I don't have the extras repo, that's why I couldn't find it, thanks, I believe the file you need to edit is /usr/lib/unity-lens-wikipedia/unity-lens-wikipedia
[19:48] <tesuji> Hello, I wanted to upgrade to 12.04 from 11.04 but the upgrade manager only shows 11.10. From the console as well it only says oneiric is available via do-release-upgrade -c -d
[19:48] <bekks> tesuji: From 11.04, you have to update to 11.10 first.
[19:48] <bekks> There is no direct upgrade path.
[19:48] <tesuji> bekks, okay thanks
[19:48] <gr33n7007h> Is there a program to convert {png\|jpg\|gif} etc to svg
[19:49] <gandhijee_> hey, is crosscompiling for 32bit arch's broken on ubuntu 12.04 64bit or something?
[19:49] <velho> how can one paste into the terminal?
[19:49] <deadmund> gr33n7007h: I believe that is fundamentally not possible.
[19:49] <velho> how can one paste text into the terminal?
[19:49] <bkc_> velho: middlebutton on mouse
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> gr33n7007h:  try using GIMP?  maybe that'll work?
[19:49] <deadmund> gr33n7007h: Not every image can be re-drawn as a vector art.
[19:49] <trism> emp_: on line 50 there is: self.wiki = ["http://%s.wikipedia.org" % (loc)], you could add: loc = 'en' right above it to override the locale setting (replacing en with the region code of wikipedia you want)
[19:50] <trism> emp_: might also want to file a bug against unity-lens-wikipedia requesting to make it configurable
[19:50] <deadmund> TheLordOfTime: It will not.  Gimp works with pixels, not vectors.  Although it can open .svg it simply renders it as pixels.  t cannot create new .svg
[19:50] <gr33n7007h> deadmund, is there a way in google to search for svg image?
[19:50] <emp_> trism: nice! thank you very much, and I'll do that
[19:50] <emp_> trism: I'm a bit of a newbie, how can I access the location you just pasted before?
[19:50] <emp_> (/usr/lib/unity-lens-wikipedia/unity-lens-wikipedia)
[19:51] <trism> emp_: gksudo gedit /usr/lib/unity-lens-wikipedia/unity-lens-wikipedia;
[19:51] <deadmund> gr33n7007h: Lemme check while I look.  Look at this: http://www.clker.com/
[19:51] <tesuji> gr33n7007h, the first are bitmap formats but svg is a vector format. without some form of shape recognition its not possible. in google try filetype:svg
[19:51] <gr33n7007h> deadmund, ok
[19:51] <terafl0ps> TheLordOfTime: Did you already try using lsof to see what files that PID has open?
[19:52] <deadmund> gr33n7007h: There is a way I'm sure to search for .svg in google using some 'google-foo'
[19:52] <TheLordOfTime> terafl0ps:  there is no PID.  it autoterminates
[19:52] <russ_> Hi everyone
[19:52] <TheLordOfTime> terafl0ps:  the PID stops working immediately after activation via start
[19:52] <russ_> I'm having problems!  I updated using update manager a few weeks ago, and now I can't load up ubuntu without using a previous version
[19:52] <DG_> is there a way to turn off the message that says when people join and leave?
[19:53] <gr33n7007h> as to be 24x24
[19:53] <deadmund> gr33n7007h: filetype:svg thing you're looking for
[19:53] <levander> DG_: That's dependent upon your IRC client.
[19:53] <gr33n7007h> deadmund, great! thanks let me check
[19:53] <deadmund> gr33n7007h: sure
[19:53] <russ_> pizza time
[19:54] <emp_> trism: apparently there is no "unity-lens-wikipedia" folder within "lib"
[19:54] <terafl0ps> TheLordOfTime: You still may be able to use lsof to look for anything accessing /run/rpc_pipefs
[19:54] <terafl0ps> lsof has a million useful flags, but I might just start with sudo lsof | grep rpc_pipefs
[19:55] <DG_> levander im just using webchat.freenode.net
[19:55] <benkevan> anyone see an issue before where they can't send SMTP to anything fi you have an IP that ends in an even octet, but odd IP's work fine?
[19:55] <skomorokh> how do I find the last couple versions of packages in ubuntu? i need to downgrade and have foolishly set my cache to clear too quickly
[19:56] <DG_> whats the default browser for ubuntu?
[19:56] <levander> DG_: Well, if there's any settings options, you can look over them and see if there's anything like "disable server messages", I know my Thunderbird client has it.
[19:56] <RKyle> DG_, Firefox I believe.
[19:56] <trism> emp_: really? hmm, let me add extras and check
[19:56] <gandhijee_> i can't seem to install the i386 sdl packages along side the 64bit ones...
[19:57] <DG_> found it thanks levander :)
[19:57] <DG_> thanks Rkyle
[19:57] <RKyle> No problem.
[19:57] <bitbuzzer> I unzipped a program into /home/apps, but it doesn't show in the finder or the program "switcher". Do I need to register it somehow?
[19:58] <deadmund> bitbuzzer: Do you have a executable in /home/apps?
[19:58] <DG_> how come i copied the iso to the disc and it put two copies on the disc?
[19:58] <bitbuzzer> deadmund: its in a sub folder there
[19:59] <NewWorld> bitbuzzer:  Maybe that dir needs to be added to $PATH
[19:59] <trism> emp_: ahah, the one in extras is in /opt, the one in the ppa is in /usr/lib, so /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/unity-lens-wikipedia/unity-lens-wikipedia
[19:59] <deadmund> bitbuzzer: To start the program from the terminal go to that folder and ./<program-name>  If you don't want to always go to that folder place a link to the executable in /usr/local/bin/
[20:00] <terafl0ps> DG_: What do you mean by two copies?
[20:00] <trism> emp_: and in that one it is actually line 51
[20:00] <anlarye> Hi. I've got a display issue when booting. When the computer should show the grub menu. My monitor gives me a message that reads: "cant display this video mode, optimum resolution 1280x1024 @ 60hz" ... where would i go to fix that? Thanks
[20:00] <DG_> terafl0ps for some reason it put the iso on the disc two times so i have two iso files on there
[20:00] <emp_> trism: checking that out now
[20:01] <bitbuzzer> I can start via terminal fine, its finding it via three "finder" that isn't working
[20:01] <terafl0ps> DG_: It sounds like you may have copied the ISO file itself.  You need to use a program in Windows that knows how to write the contents of the ISO to a disk.
[20:01] <terafl0ps> DG:_ Personally, I like ImageBurner.
[20:02] <DG_> ooooh yeah thats what i did, i just copied the iso but what would i use to do what you said? would daemon tools work?
[20:02] <BluesKaj> imgburn is vg, DG_
[20:03] <deadmund> bitbuzzer: I think this is the solution you're looking for?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/78730/how-do-i-add-a-custom-launcher
[20:04] <malkauns> buying BTC for dwolla/PPUSD
[20:05] <malkauns> oops wrong channel :P
[20:05] <skomorokh> Any idea where I can find the Firefox 14 package from 12.04? I need to move back from 15.
[20:05] <RKyle> I like InfraRecorder for Windows.
[20:05] <emp_> trism: okay, I changed "loc" into "en", I'll restart and see if it worked. thank you very much, appreciated
[20:05] <kiyoura> <3 zsh
[20:06] <DG_> so should i take the iso off the disc? then use imgburn to extract the files on the iso to the disc?
[20:08] <OerHeks> there is an extended howto DG_ >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[20:08] <terafl0ps> DG_:If you used a RW disk, you can use ImageBurn to overwrite the disk with the ISO files with the contents of one ISO file.
[20:08] <BluesKaj> DG_, imgburn will do it all just open the iso file in it
[20:09] <OerHeks> iso = img(age)
[20:12] <shp> hi, i'm on an ubuntu vm in tty, i need to change the keyboard layout in tty, which file do i have to modify?
[20:13] <DG_> so which one would i click? http://gyazo.com/8cd7e85be34c2837d3f2fce789dfa33d
[20:14] <AC1D> h1
[20:14] <AC1D> help me plz
[20:14] <TheLordOfTime> !help | AC1D
[20:14] <AC1D> $ apt-get update E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:14] <TheLordOfTime> AC1D:  use sudo
[20:14] <AC1D> what solution?
[20:14] <TheLordOfTime> AC1D:  sudo apt-get update
[20:14] <AC1D> i sudo
[20:14] <terafl0ps> DG_: "Write image file to disc"
[20:15] <TheLordOfTime> AC1D:  that's not what the system says.  ***use that command i just gave you***
[20:15] <anlarye> Hi. I've got a display issue when booting. When the computer should show the grub menu. My monitor gives me a message that reads: "cant display this video mode, optimum resolution 1280x1024 @ 60hz" ... where would i go to fix that? Thanks
[20:15] <DG_> thanks terafl0ps :)
[20:20] <eliah> i have a strange problem with checking mx records - anybody could help?
[20:24] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:25] <Bahram> and finally...
[20:28] <gregoryfenton> What problem eliah?
[20:29] <russ_> I have a strange problem with my bootup
[20:30] <emp_> trism: it worked! thank you very much!
[20:30] <DG_> brb installing ubuntu!!!!
[20:31] <russ_> Is anyone wanting to hear my story of failure?
[20:31] <trism> emp_: excellent! you're welcome
[20:31] <OerHeks> !ask | russ_
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> russ_: go for it, if it's ubuntu support related
[20:32] <c_smith> what is the current package name in Ubuntu for glibc?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> !find glibc
[20:33] <c_smith> so libc6....
[20:33] <russ_> Alright, so I had my Ubuntu 12.04 get one of it's many updates from the Software Updater application, very usual indeed.  It required a reboot, did that, and now I can only run Ubuntu by pressing Shift at start up and using a previous version of Linux.
[20:33] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, thanks, that kind of package is confusing when looking at the apt-cache.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> russ_: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: could use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[20:34] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, good point.
[20:34] <russ_> how would I check if I do or not?
[20:34] <c_smith> I keep forgetting about that one.
[20:34] <russ_> I am sort of a Ubuntu Nublar.
[20:34] <russ_> I am sort of a Ubuntu Nublar.
[20:34] <avengre> When I initially installed Ubuntu-server it did an automatic network setup.. is there a way to have it redo that?  I changed Routers and thus, the IP changed( from 192.168.x.x to 10.0.x.x) and now the router isn't saying its connected, and no internet
[20:35] <terafl0ps> avengre: Do you use DHCP on both routers?
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> c_smith  or https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
[20:35] <russ_> Actionparsnip, I do not know if I am using them or not.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> russ_: its a concious choice to install them. Can you please pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a     Thanks
[20:38] <russ_> actionparsnip , I am running this through terminal, and can't input anything..
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> russ_: copy the output then go to http://pastie.org  and paste the text there and hit paste. When the page changes, copy the URL and paste it here as an update
[20:42] <AC1D> that an error?
[20:42] <russ_> actionparsnip, http://pastie.org/4652569
[20:42] <AC1D> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[20:42] <AC1D> Reading package lists... Error!
[20:42] <AC1D> E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2: No such file or directory)
[20:42] <AC1D> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[20:43] <TheLordOfTime> AC1D:  try an update.  sudo apt-get update
[20:43] <c_smith> so, if I'm getting the error here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182301/  would that mean something I can't fix, and if not, how do I go about fixing it? I'm pretty sure I have gdk
[20:44] <AC1D> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tldm217/tahutek.net/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[20:44] <AC1D> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tldm217/tahutek.net/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:44] <AC1D> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:44] <russ_> actionparsnip, Sorry, This is what you want.  http://pastie.org/4652573
[20:44] <guntbert> !paste | AC1D
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> russ_: look at the commands you ran inyour paste then look at the comamnds I gave
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> russ_: if you run incorrect commands, not only will it not work, you may accidentally run a different command and break your OS
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> AC1D: http://ppa.launchpad.net/tldm217/tahutek.net/ubuntu/dists/    doesn't support precise
[20:47] <russ_> actionparsnip, Okay, HERE we go. =D
[20:47] <russ_> http://pastie.org/4652586
[20:47] <leaper> Hello
[20:47] <leaper> I just put Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop on my USB Stick
[20:48] <leaper> And tried to boot it, but it didn't say aanything
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> russ_: sudo lshw -C display     NOT: sudo lshaw -C display
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> russ_: the commands aren't the same...again...
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> leaper: how did you put the ISO on the USB stick?
[20:48] <leaper> Through the PenDrive thingy
[20:49] <terafl0ps> leaper, Did you configure USB boot in your BIOS?
[20:49] <leaper> No
[20:49] <leaper> How do i
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: what is the output of:  file /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: what is the output of:  file /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/menuproxies/libappmenu.so; uname -a
[20:49] <russ_> actionparsnip , sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a   <--- correct?
[20:49] <pokkerface> hi anyone has uefi on their pc?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> russ_: yes, but read your last pastebin carefully
[20:49] <i7c> can i somehow log incoming tcp connections in a log file? just ip and  maybe duration of the connection would be enough
[20:50] <terafl0ps> It varies from BIOS to BIOS.  There should be some key that you press to get into the BIOS when the machine first starts.
[20:50] <kodomo> Hi - nobody here who could help me with my ssh-agent problem? :)
[20:50] <pokkerface> anyone with uefi boot configured properly?
[20:50] <krababbel> i7c: you can use iptables for that, it can log packets
[20:51] <heisenmink> pokkerface: try booting without UEFI, try just spamming esc at bootup and selecting the usb stick
[20:51] <krababbel> i7c: or use tcpdump and analyze later with wireshark
[20:51] <russ_> actionparsnip, I do not see anything that would be obvious to me.
[20:51] <terafl0ps> Common keys are F2, del, and F12.  Hopefully it tells you when you first boot.
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> russ_: sudo: lshaw: command not found
[20:51] <pokkerface> heisenmink: yes but i dont want to boot with an usb stick, i want to boot from hard disk
[20:51] <i7c> krababbel: mhm wouldn't that be a looot of data? =)
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> russ_: lshaw is not lshw   is it
[20:52] <russ_> actionparsnip, http://pastie.org/4652586
[20:52] <heisenmink> pokkerface: then whats the problem?
[20:52] <russ_> with the lshw fixed in the command
[20:52] <krababbel> i7c: tcpdump can filter out packets you don't want, and if you capture only the headers, it's not that much
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> russ_: see how it works when you type it righ...
[20:52] <russ_> much better :P
[20:52] <pokkerface> heisenmink: i removed all partitions, and now i want to know if it is mandatory to have that fat32 partition with a folder named uefi
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> russ_: weird isn't it
[20:52] <i7c> krababbel: ok, thanks for the hint, i'll read a bit ;)
[20:53] <pokkerface> heisenmink: and also what should be inside that uefi folder...
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> russ_: run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-current
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> russ_: good luck typing all that if you can't type a 4 letter command...
[20:53] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182332/
[20:53] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, that's the output
[20:54] <krababbel> i7c: for example: sudo tcpdump -i eth0 -s 68 -w test.dump ! src 2.3.4.5  will exclude that host
[20:54] <krababbel> i7c: http://danielmiessler.com/study/tcpdump/
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: hmm, and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[20:54] <terafl0ps> leaper: Some systems are really helpful and give you a "device boot menu" to do exactly what you want to do.
[20:54] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, precise
[20:55] <i7c> krababbel: faved :D thx!
[20:55] <krababbel> i7c: np :)
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: did you use this guide: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/08/install-opal-blue-blue-smooth-theme-on.html
[20:56] <pokkerface> heisenmink: i want to know if it is possible to boot as always before, with the classic partition schema
[20:56] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, nope, I'm trying to run the Shadowgrounds game.
[20:56] <Guest27190> hi iam using ubuntu 10.04 and i want to change the boot splash screen, how do i do it?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: I see, but did you use that PPA to install the theme?
[20:57] <c_smith> but it seems I did add that theme without the guide.
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: try the guide, it may add what you need
[20:57] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, guide no, ppa yes.
[20:58] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, will do.
[20:58] <AC1D>  E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2: No such file or directory) , what to do ?
[20:59] <AC1D> what can i do?
[20:59] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, looks like I had everything on there (save wallpapers and icons) without even looking at the guide.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: hehe nice
[20:59] <idodeisuke>  i godda problem with my terminal emulators (ALL OF THEM, gnome-terminal, konsole, etc): the ctrl+page up/down to change between tabs doesn't work anymore, it gives me ''5~ instead. Does anyone know, how to solve this problem?
[21:00] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, nice theme, might I add, but is there something I might be missing that is causing the gdk error?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> AC1D: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[21:00] <TheLordOfTime> is there a way to set up certain commands to be run automatically when a specific VPN is connected with network-manager?
[21:00] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, and yes, it's gdk not gtk.
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: i'd contact the theme author
[21:01] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, strange thing is it's not a theme, but a game that refuses to launch.
[21:01] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, either way I can contact those at the Humble Bundle about this.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: /home/geek/survivor/survivor-launcher: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: _XGetRequest     seems to be the issue
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: what is the output of:  file /home/geek/survivor/survivor-launcher
[21:02] <atdiehm_> I went to update packages and didn't hit 'upgrade' to 12.04, but somehow after rebooting, half of the machine is showing 12.04, the other half 11.10 ... it boots up fine, logs me in, but then there's no display.  Is there something I can run from commandline to attempt to get everything to a working 12.04?
[21:03] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me the cobbler command to make cobbler use 8.8.8.8 for eth1 in dns ... i have cloud on eth0 and connection to internet on eth1 ... but it is resetting my dns to local so i cant resolve updates or anything else on the net
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: I bet its a 32bit app
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> AC1D  type ls /var/lib/dpkg/ | pastebinit and paster the url here
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[21:03] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, home/geek/survivor/survivor-launcher: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped
[21:04] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, yep, 32-bit.
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> AC1D: it will take a while, its just the commands from the synaptic package fix in a script
[21:04] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, that may be the issue there, correct?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: doesn't match your 64bit OS, so you need to grab the files and put them where they are expected
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997459
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: its a common thing
[21:04] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[21:05] <needhelp1> Im needing some help. IM trying to install ubuntu, but when using disk utility and the installer, my drive is showing up as 1tb when the drive is actually a 2tb drive. its a seagate st31000524as  . I have formated the drive a few times with no luck. any ideas?
[21:06] <ahirbhairav> What is the best version of Ubuntu to get if you are installing on Oracle VirtualBox? Thanks, Ahir Bhairav.
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> ahirbhairav  depends on what you need it for
[21:06] <atdiehm_> looking for info on how to fix a botched 12.04 upgrade from the commandline please
[21:06] <ahirbhairav> Just for running.
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> ahirbhairav: lubuntu or xubuntu will impact less on the host system
[21:06] <atdiehm_> I re-run sudo do-release-upgrade, and it says I'm current
[21:06] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip: im pretty sure cobbler autoconfigs resolv.conf
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> ahirbhairav: they are designed to be lighter than Ubuntu and Kubuntu and are equally supported (although Lubuntu 12.04 isn't LTS)
[21:07] <ahirbhairav> Yes, but do they run on Unity as well?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: I've added configs for DNS in network manager / wicd, as well as in the bottom of /etc/network/interfaces   not sure
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> ahirbhairav: no, but if you want a snappier OS you should avoid Unity if possible. Unity2D session will be lighter but not as light as Lubuntu and Xubuntu
[21:08] <Skew^> hi iam using ubuntu 10.04 and i want to change the boot splash screen, how do i do it?
[21:09] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip: ya usualy would work but cobbler takes controle of dnsmasq ... it will rewright all changes made manualy ... pretty cool accualy ... i just cant find the commands i need to add to cobbler to let it know what to add where i want it lol
[21:10] <smemddd> hi
[21:10] <smemddd> i need get tor on ubuntu to use a single exit router
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Skew^: does Lucid use plymouth?
[21:10] <needhelp1> has anyone ever had any trouble with hard drives showing up as the wrong size?
[21:11] <smemddd> i can get it to use an router from one country for example using ExitNodes {GB}
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: have you tried updating gparted and ubiquity before kicking it off?
[21:11] <smemddd> but i need it to use one exit router
[21:11] <kodomo> ok... I rephrase my question: where can I stop gnome from calling ssh-add without arguments?
[21:11] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: im using the ubuntu live cd from 12.04.01
[21:11] <smemddd> im using ExitNodes followed by the server i want
[21:12] <kodomo> (this seems to be the source of my trouble...)
[21:12] <smemddd> but it just doesnt connect
[21:12] <smemddd> suggestions?
[21:12] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: i dont think i can update any farther
[21:13] <shomon> hi I have an ipevo webcam.. will it ever work on ubuntu_
[21:13] <shomon> ?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: there may be an update
[21:13] <needhelp1> shomon: have you tried using cheese?
[21:13] <shomon> yes
[21:13] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: can i update from the live cd?
[21:13] <shomon> it says no device installed I think
[21:13] <shomon> just a sec
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: you can update the apps in the liveCD environment
[21:13] <shomon> No device found
[21:14] <needhelp1> update manager shows no updates for the gparted
[21:15] <needhelp1> the hdd is a seagate st31000524as
[21:15] <needhelp1> 2tb, only showing up as 1tb however
[21:15] <shomon> dmesg doesn-t seem to show it
[21:16] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: I may have antoher issue, googling this drive is showing as 1tb also
[21:16] <b_> how do i uninstall xubuntu?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: did you make a GPT partition table or did you make an MSDOS partition table?
[21:17] <shomon> b_, you could just delete the partition from windows maybe?
[21:17] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: no partions
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1657961
[21:17] <b_> i did it but it cant reboot to windows
[21:18] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: is there something in that thread i need to do? im not following
[21:18] <Jellyg00se> if you're using apt-get and it's locking dics, can you apt-get with another user at the same time?
[21:18] <terafl0ps> Dumb question.  Have you ever opened this computer and looked inside?  Maybe you had two 1tb drives RAID-0ed together.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: just read
[21:20] <b_> help on uninstall ubuntu
[21:20] <shomon> oh well, to answer my own question, I have an ubuntu incompatible webcam :( http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/hardware/430353-driver-ipevo-webcam.html
[21:20] <TheLordOfTime> shomon:  and what're you wanting to do about it?
[21:20] <TheLordOfTime> if its ubuntu incompatible, go find and build drivers for it?
[21:21] <shomon> Well I hoped to find I could use this webcam
[21:21] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: thanks, i got it.
[21:22] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: dummy me, i ordered a 1tb drive thinking i got 2tb
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: d'oh, 1tb is still a fair whack of space
[21:22] <needhelp1> yeah but i have a 2tb drive im needing to backup / mirror
[21:23] <shomon> TheLordOfTime, what do you mean by build a driver, is that easier than waiting to be able to buy some other second hand webcam?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: send it back under warranty then
[21:23] <needhelp1> yeah i am
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> shomon:  nope, if you're  just going to buy a second hand webcam... do that
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> but make sure Linux drivers exist for it first
[21:23] <neurotiC> how to install irssi on my ubuntu ?
[21:23] <shomon> sure, it's just a shame. they figured it out for the next version by the same company at least
[21:24] <neurotiC> ajde be da vi ebu sestru
[21:24] <neurotiC> :D
[21:24] <zykotick9> neurotiC: "sudo apt-get install irssi" should be one way
[21:24] <neurotiC> zykotick9 , ty mate :)
[21:24] <shomon> ah well, thanks anyway TheLordOfTime
[21:24] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: when im installing from the live cd and its asking for the moutn point, what do i need to choose here?
[21:24] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: its a drive that will only have ubuntu on it.
[21:24] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: windows is on another seperate drive
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: you need one for / and some space for swap (1xRAM for more than 2Gb RAM)
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: if you want you can have a separate partition for home, then use 10Gb for /, 1xRAM for swap and the rest for /home
[21:25] <needhelp1> i have 4 gb ram, so i need around 5gb for swap?
[21:26] <bekks> You need 4GB.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: you can only have 4 primary partitions, you may want to put ubuntu on logical partitions in an extended partition to make things a litlle easier
[21:26] <bekks> For being able to hibernate.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> bekks: for 2Gb or more you only need 1XRAM for swap
[21:26] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Ack.
[21:27] <bekks> ActionParsnip: He said he has 4GB RAM.
[21:27] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: unfortunate i dont follow. not familiar with logical and primary
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: You can only have 4 primary partitions no ANY drive
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: if you want more you create an extended partition and you then subdivide that into logical partitions which hold the data
[21:28] <needhelp1> just to make sure, since this drive will only have ubuntu, i create a partion in root "/" for the os and another partition for swap is that right ?
[21:28] <russ_> ActionParsnip: Still having the same problem, still can't cleanly load without holding shift using previous linux updates
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> russ_: did the nvidia driver install ok?
[21:29] <russ_> actionparnsip: it did reinstall just fine
[21:29] <russ_> copied and pasted your commands instead of typing it in.
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> russ_: could try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then rebooting
[21:30] <russ_> i'll try and let you know. :)
[21:31] <madter> hello
[21:31] <madter> is there a way to use a single exit node in tor ?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> madter: have you tried in the tor irc channel
[21:32] <russ_> actionparsnip:  Here is my new pastie, i will restart now.    http://pastie.org/4652787
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> russ_: look sfine
[21:32] <avengre> "You should add perl-libwww to the depends array."   advice on a website for using afraid-dyndns   (perl script)  what is a depends array, and how would I do it
[21:32] <madter> ActionParsnip : yeah
[21:32] <russ_> I will restart, and see if it works.
[21:32] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: i have the ubuntu os on dev/sda1 ext4 830gb, and then on dev/sda5 swap of 6.5 gb. is that setup right, the swap should be its own seperate partion ?
[21:33] <madter> the room is some kind of bot idling lobby
[21:33] <madter> no one replies
[21:33] <madter> ActionParsnip : any idea how to do this ?
[21:34] <amesbury> medter: there is only *one* exit node in each tor circuit...if you mean one single hop or only 1 single relay the answer is no...
[21:35] <amesbury> ...also...you really shoukld use the tor channel to ask those questions as this is an ubuntu irc channel...peace :-)
[21:36] <russ_> actionparsnip:  Still having the same problem, can't load straight through.
[21:37] <madter> so anyone knows how to use a single exit node using tor?
[21:39] <russ_> I am having a problem boot my Ubuntu 12.04 straight through.  I am using a previous version of Ubuntu that i accessed through pressing shift during start up and selecting -27.
[21:40] <internetN00b> mozilla software is a POS
[21:40] <internetN00b> they are getting on my nerves. :(
[21:40] <needhelp1> with a 1tb drive and 4gb memory is 6.5 gb swap big enough
[21:41] <russ_> ActionParsnip: Any suggestions?
[21:42] <kodomo> for the record: gnome-keyring-manager was creating my problem - there's a workaround here : http://tomclegg.net/seahorse-workaround
[21:42] <Myke974_> ubuntu server 12.04 LTS => objectif : Zoneminder <= problem with sudo zmu -d /dev/video0 -q -v  . That return : Error, failed to enumerate standard 0: Success
[21:42] <Myke974_> anyone can help me please ? :D
[21:44] <lauratika> my wireless conection works fine, but wired network is gray out on network manager, how can i change this.
[21:44] <avengre> "wget -q --read-timeout=0.0 --waitretry=5 --tries=400 --background http://freedns.afraid.org/dynamic/update.php?"   Would this effectively continually run this?
[21:44] <avengre> retry every 5 seconds
[21:44] <kostkon> needhelp1, yes. enough even for hibernation
[21:46] <moes> needhelp1, Recommendation is twice the ram size
[21:46] <bekks> moes: It was, 15 years ago.
[21:46] <moes> bekks, what is it now
[21:46] <bekks> moes: 1x RAM for RAM > 2GB.
[21:49] <needhelp1> yeah i was reading the swap docs and was sorta confused
[21:49] <needhelp1> is 1xram the normal now?
[21:50] <bekks> needhelp1: Yes.
[21:50] <mneptok> needhelp1: it depends entirely on use case. suspend and hibernate will cause increased swap need.
[21:53] <Ca11um> I'm trying to install Ubuntu via USB, but when I attmpt to install it errors that it couldn't mount the CD-ROM
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> Ca11um, How did you load the usb?
[21:54] <Ca11um> unetbootin with the 12.04 Server (32-bit) ISO
[21:54] <GeekAdmin> Whats the command that displays the current list of all programs that are installed in Ubuntu? I need to reinstall ubuntu and wanted to save the list of applications I have before doing so. Thanks
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> Ca11um, Have you done a md5sum on the ISO, and tried reloading it as well?
[21:55] <Ca11um> No
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> Ca11um, Would you like a md5sum link?
[21:55] <Ca11um> Sure
[21:55] <c_smith> how can I get nomodeset as a boot option on an alternate install iso installed on a USB flash drive before rebooting?
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > Ca11um
[21:56] <m6d4> GeekAdmin: try dpkg -l
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> Ca11um, I have to assume the computer does show a usb boot in the b os or in the outside of the bios boot from menu as well.
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> bios*
[21:57] <Meris> I want to install Lubuntu 12.04 next to MacOSX Lion and WindowsXP on my MacBook. Can anyone help me to repartition my HDD so that I can boot all OS'es after installation? Windows has been installed using BootCamp, which creates a Pseudo MBR record. There are already 4 Partitions in my PMBR, but the GPT table does not have the 4 partition limit. #apple won' t help me and the docs that I could find using !mac and similar search actions don' t apply to my
[21:57] <Meris> situation.
[21:58] <Ca11um> wilee-nille: It doesn't, but the link you provided is for 11.11
[21:58] <Ca11um> 11.10 *
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> Ca11um, a md5 is a md5 check nothing has changed
[21:59] <Ca11um> Where can I find the 12.04 hashes?
[21:59] <c_smith> the reason I ask is I cannot see jack as when I boot into the alternate installer, all I see is screens like this: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=9375
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> Ca11um, If you have no usb boot in the bios you will need something like plop to boot a usb.
[21:59] <Ca11um> No it boots the USB fine, but it doesn't have any form of "USB mode"
[21:59] <Meris> Ca11um: You can find those as .mds files on mirrors that supply Ubuntu
[22:00] <Ca11um> Is there no way of using Alt+F2 ?
[22:00] <Ca11um> I've had this problem a few times, never remember how I fixed them in the past
[22:00] <trism> Ca11um: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/MD5SUMS if it is a 12.04.1 iso otherwise https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> Ca11um, Here is a app for booting a usb where one is not allowed due to the age of the bios. http://www.plop.at/
[22:01] <Ca11um> The BIOS is fine
[22:01] <Ca11um> The Ubuntu installation is at fault
[22:02] <LennyLinux> Hi, i was trying to create a python plugin for gedit but it can't find the gi.repository. Then to see if other plugins can work i downloaded and installed one plugin and gedit now doesn't open. Could you help me? The python-gi lib is installed.
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> Ca11um, Ah I see, never heard of no usb be showing but yet it boots.
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> you can boot the iso through grub 2 if needed as well.
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: does the USB actually start to boot? If you use unetbootin you will see a text based menu at first
[22:04] <Ca11um> Yes, the USB itself is fine, it all boots and runs fine...when I get to a certain stage of the installation, it tries loading from the CD
[22:04] <Ca11um> And yes I do get a unetbootin menu, which I just select "Default", which takes me to the installation
[22:04] <velho> hello people?
[22:04] <velho> !!
[22:05] <velho> how can one invert colours without compiz?
[22:05] <LennyLinux> Hi, i was trying to create a python plugin for gedit but it can't find the gi.repository. Then to see if other plugins can work i downloaded and installed one plugin and gedit now doesn't open. Could you help me? The python-gi lib is installed.
[22:05] <lauratika> cant use wired connection, what can i do, wireless works fine}
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: did you MD5 test teh ISO you downloaded?
[22:06] <Ca11um> Yep, it's correct
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: did you try updating unetbootin and gparted in the live OS (assuming you have web access)?
[22:07] <m6d4> velho: this looks relative - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1882787
[22:07] <Ca11um> So there's no actual way of installing from a USB, or what?
[22:08] <Ca11um> The installer clearly thinks that CD-ROM is the only installation media
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: yes its available, did you upgrade the 2 apps I named...
[22:10] <Ca11um> No
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: I recommend you do that, just upgrade those 2 apps
[22:11] <LennyLinux> Hi, i was trying to create a python plugin for gedit but it can't find the gi.repository. Then to see if other plugins can work i downloaded and installed one plugin and gedit now doesn't open. Could you help me? The python-gi lib is installed.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> LennyLinux: try joining  #gedit on irc.gnome.org
[22:14] <Ca11um> Is the "12.04_Live" in unetbootin client or server?
[22:15] <LennyLinux> ActionParsnip: uh, thank you. I will
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: it will be a live USB desktop if you used the desktop ISO
[22:16] <Jargon> Hi all
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> hi Jargon
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: what would it be a client of, exactly?
[22:19] <Ca11um> Gee, I dunno, perhaps Linux Ubuntu?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: its not connecting to anything by default (which is what a client does), so the term doesn't apply
[22:22] <theo> hey
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> hi Theo
[22:24] <bdl> CIAO
[22:24] <bdl> !list
[22:25] <DG__> hey guys, im trying to install to one of my partitions and i keep getting an error saying no root or something like that :/ im confused
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> DG__: are you custom partitioning?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> DG__: you need to set one partition as / ideally formatted Ext4
[22:26] <DG__> i did the partition in windows then tried to install to it
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> DG__: then you will need to custom partition, mark the partition to use as / to be formatted and set it as / so that it gets used
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> DG__: Ubuntu can do it's own partitioning, you don't need to pre-partition
[22:28] <DG__> i tried to do that but it took forever
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> DG__: ok, well you need to use the 'something else' option anddefine which partitions are used for what
[22:31] <Bomboz819> is it french or english here
[22:32] <KM0201> Bomboz819: english
[22:32] <KM0201> !fr | Bomboz819
[22:32] <Jargon> well
[22:32] <Jargon> how is everyone
[22:32] <Jargon> exit
[22:32] <Bomboz819> ubottu thanks
[22:40] <DG__> actionparsnip: that's what i was doing, i selected the partition and it gave me a no root file error or something
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> DG__: you need to select it to be used and to be formatted ext4, simply clicking it then clicking forward isn't correct
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> DG__: click the partition and click change or edit partition or however it's worded
[22:43] <DG__> and then select ext4?
[22:43] <digisus> #tiki
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> DG__: you'll need to do the same with swap and /home if you set a seperate partition for that too
[22:43] <DG__> im confused
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> DG__: yes, select for it to be used, select ext4 and select the mount point as /
[22:44] <DG__> ohhh ok
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> DG__: its all in front of your face, read the screen
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> DG__: do the same with the partition you set for swap, exceptyou wont have to selec that one to be formatted
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> DG__: repeat for the other partitions you made and assign them how you decided to use them.
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> DG__: you can even add the ntfs partition you have windows on, just DON'T set it to be formatted
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> DG__: you can then give it a mount point and it will mount automatically at boot
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> DG__: only once you have setup the partitions, with the / setup will the installer proceed
[22:48] <datruth> is there something better than kmix
[22:48] <datruth> ?
[22:48] <ruif13> hi, i've ubuntu 12.04, i've a problem my menu bar of shell and others disappeard
[22:48] <ruif13> and i can't close
[22:48] <ruif13> anyone can help?
[22:48] <Atlantic777> ruif13: open terminal (try ctrl + alt + t) and write "unity --replace"
[22:49] <RPG-Master> I just got a new GFX Card, an NVIDIA just like my old one. I stuck it in and everything was fine. I decided to snoop around and see if their were new drivers. The driver utility says their was a second "post release" driver. I installed it thinking it might increase performance. Only thing I've noticed is new and missing settings in the NVIDIA settings app. Now I can rotate my display, but now I can't set whether to force GPU scalin
[22:49] <RPG-Master> g or not. What happed to those settings? Do I need to just roll back to the older drivers?
[22:50] <Meris> Is there a way I can change my nvidia settings (proprietary driver loaded) through the command line?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: the xorg edgers update PPA (less fresh more stable) has a later driver. I need it for my 6150 to play urban terror
[22:51] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: I'll look into that.
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> RPG-Master: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:55] <RPG-Master> ActionParsnip: Hey, thanks. I was still fiddling with the NVIDIA settings app.
[22:56] <AlexQ> Hi
[22:58] <Meris> AlexQ, hello, please ask your question
[22:58] <AlexQ> Is there any option to use GRUB instead of syslinux on my pendrive to boot up a live OS?
[22:58] <bolosaur> Hi.
[22:59] <Atlantic777> !ask | bolosaur
[22:59] <bolosaur> Currently trying to turn an old laptop into a wifi hdd, soft synth and router
[22:59] <bolosaur> using ubuntu :)
[22:59] <ruif13> hi again i try to do unity --replace and nothing changes
[22:59] <ruif13> :S
[22:59] <ruif13> i don't have menu bar of shell or other windows
[22:59] <ruif13> applications
[23:00] <velho> how to install a deb?
[23:01] <velho> how to install a deb file?
[23:01] <ex0a> i know this question has been asked a million times, but i'm having trouble finding the page i referenced months ago when i did an installation on one of my machines for use as a media center pc.. can anyone point me to the wiki page (or maybe it was a forum post?) that had detailed information about which drivers to use for legacy ati cards to get 3d support and good media decoding support?
[23:01] <mads-> velho, just double click it, I guess
[23:01] <Atlantic777> velho: just double click it. From the console you can use "dpkg -i /path/to/file"
[23:01] <Meris> bolosaur: Most laptops are not designed for running 24/7. Why don' t you use an embedded Linux device instead?
[23:02] <j4rg0n> Hi Everyone I'm New to Linux and Ubuntu was wondering if anyone could recomend any good tutorials or books on linux/unix I've learned alot of the basics on my own but want to move up and learn more
[23:02] <TheMiner> Linux in a Nutshell by O'Rielly books
[23:02] <Atlantic777> j4rg0n: maybe ubuntu manual? http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[23:03] <jj_> how do i connect a ssh from one linux machine to another
[23:03] <KM0201> personally, i think the books are a waste... you can learn everything in them by just googling.. the ubuntu-manual is good for learning ubuntu specific stuff
[23:03] <Atlantic777> jj_: ssh user@ip.address.of.remote
[23:03] <gandhijee_> ok, figured out the cross-compiling mess.  does 12.04 not have support for ConnMan anymore?
[23:03] <KM0201> well, you also have to make ssh server is running on the machine you want to connect to
[23:04] <j4rg0n> Is there anywhere I could download the Ubuntu manual as pdf?
[23:04] <kiyoura> KM0201, something from the ground up, ensuring to cover all inter subjects is much better than a tutorial that may miss out on something--be it even small
[23:04] <KM0201> j4rg0n: yes, from the link you were given
[23:04] <j4rg0n> oh missed that link lol
[23:04] <j4rg0n> sorry didnt see it till already asked
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !manual | j4rg0n
[23:04] <KM0201> kiyoura: i guess thats a matter of opinion... i think the books go way to into "geek speak" and lose most of their target audience (new users)
[23:05] <j4rg0n> I'm more looking toward shell scripting and that kinda stuff
[23:05] <safinaskar> hi! once i saw dir /com/ubuntu on ubuntu. how i cannot reproduce this (i. e. i cannot find ubuntu version which have this folder). how to reproduce this? and what this dir means?
[23:05] <Meris> j4rg0n: another good source, especially for terminal work would be www.tldp.org (The linux documentation project)
[23:05] <kiyoura> KM0201, i believe that's where it depends how much the reader wants to learn
[23:05] <jj_> cheers Atlantic777
[23:05] <Atlantic777> j4rg0n: then take a look at "info coreutils"
[23:06] <AlexQ> I have a problem with syslinux - it just stops while booting from pendrive (displays info about version and stopps on that screen, not showing a menu)
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> j4rg0n: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[23:06] <Atlantic777> AlexQ: have you tried to turn off acpi and modeset during boot? Also quiet splash screen may help.
[23:07] <j4rg0n> thanks alot guys
[23:08] <AlexQ> Atlantic777: What is modeset? It's somewhere in BIOS? I have very simple settings on my Acer 1825ptz
[23:08] <Meris> j4rg0n: glad to help, enjoy the learning :-)
[23:08] <j4rg0n> I've really been enjoying learning my way around Linux shell
[23:08] <j4rg0n> I've become obsessed lol
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> j4rg0n: making scripts for stuff you do a lot saves you time :)
[23:09] <Atlantic777> AlexQ: no, it's an boot option/flag. Edit the boot line or just choose advanced boot options. it should be F-something in the menu where you choose to install or try ubuntu.
[23:09] <j4rg0n> and the man pages are hard for beginner to understand sometimes
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | AlexQ
[23:10] <Meris> j4rg0n: sometimes the info pages have more examples than the man pages. Another thing that' s handy about info pages is the ability to use links within the text.
[23:10] <Atlantic777> AlexQ: and... if I remember correctly, sometimes it wont boot if you don't mount disk manually. I had that issue with some other distro. You should try with nomodeset, noacpi and nolapic first.
[23:11] <AlexQ> Atlantic777: But I have no menu from syslinux at all! The syslinux doesn't load the boot menu
[23:12] <Atlantic777> AlexQ: erm, yeah, my bad, I... nevermind. :D
[23:14] <AlexQ> Atlantic777: Generally, how does the syslinux load the squashfs? I looked at the syslinux config files and there is no path to the squashfs file.
[23:15] <AlexQ> Atlantic777: I have a SD card with GRUB fuctioning corretly. Isn't it possible to use GRUB to boot live OS, instead of syslinux? I just need to load squashfs...
[23:15] <Atlantic777> AlexQ: ok, how have you put it on the pendrive?
[23:16] <Atlantic777> try with unetbootin if you havn't already. Maybe that could help.
[23:20] <AlexQ> Atlantic777: I tried 3 different apps, including unetbootin. I have a bootable SD card that already runs GRUB. I also found that: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/11043/boot-squashfs-from-hard-drive/ Could you tell me if that would work with Ubuntu?
[23:20] <Atlantic777> AlexQ: sorry, I can't help you.
[23:22] <KM0201> AlexQ: it should... first, it's all basic stuff there, scond, crunchbang is based on ubuntu
[23:27] <safinaskar> hi! once i saw dir /com/ubuntu on ubuntu. how i cannot reproduce this (i. e. i cannot find ubuntu version which have this folder). how to reproduce this? and what this dir means?
[23:29] <jgcampbell300> DEBUG | received on stderr: /bin/sh: 1: dnsmasq: Permission den$
[23:29] <jgcampbell300>  
[23:29] <jgcampbell300> can anyone help me with this error in my cobbler.log ?
[23:30] <AlexQ> KM0201: Thanks, trying now. Don't know though why I have that problem with syslinux. No matter what distro, the syslinux installed by unetbootin should show some menu or something after displaying info about syslinux version and author
[23:30] <Meris> jgcampbell300: basically, the script you are trying to run doesn' t have the required permissions.
[23:31] <michelfp> does anyone know where i can find an irssi script that will op a person on a channel when they query a password
[23:31] <jgcampbell300> Meris: hmm .. how would i find out the propper permissions to set to it
[23:31] <Atlantic777> michelfp: may I ask you why you don't use chanserv for that?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: try in the irssi channel, may help
[23:31] <michelfp> Atlantic777: because EFnet doesn't have services
[23:32] <sujeet> libjpeg62 (i386) was removed from the main ubuntu repository. how can i find a repo that still has it?
[23:32] <Atlantic777> michelfp: that makes sense. :)
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | sujeet
[23:33] <miah0703> how to autostart ssh on ubuntu?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> sujeet: Superseded on 2011-03-24 by i386 build of libjpeg6b 6b1-1ubuntu1 in ubuntu natty RELEASE
[23:34] <Atlantic777> miah0703: autosart ssh server/daemon or what?
[23:34] <jgcampbell300> DEBUG | received on stderr: /bin/sh: 1: dnsmasq: Permission den$  is stderr the user i am looking for ?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> sujeet: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libjpeg6b
[23:34] <sujeet> ActionParsnip, it seems that only libjpeg8 has a 32bit lib vail
[23:34] <miah0703> Atlantic777 daemon
[23:34] <miah0703> or both
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> sujeet: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libjpeg8/8c-2ubuntu2
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> sujeet: has 32bit and 64bit
[23:35] <Meris> jgcampbell300: I' m not familiar with cobbler. But I assume that that' s the script that calls dnsmasq. Is dnsmasq on the same machine or are you using a remote call?
[23:35] <tarik> l
[23:36] <jgcampbell300> Meris: yes it is script that calls dnsmasq on same machine
[23:36] <sujeet> ActionParsnip, you mean libjpeg8?
[23:36] <Atlantic777> miah0703: try with "sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults"
[23:37] <tarik> k
[23:37] <Atlantic777> miah0703: but it sshd init script should be set to start with system already.
[23:38] <Atlantic777> miah0703: another nice thing you can try is "dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server."
[23:38] <Atlantic777> actually without the dot, just "dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server"
[23:39] <Meris> jgcampbell300: Which user owns dnsmasq?, root, or a specialized daemon user? In the case that it's root, you might have to give the script SUID/ GUID rights as if it runs as root.
[23:39] <jgcampbell300> Meris: i bleave it is root but i am trying to find out now where to check
[23:41] <Meris> jgcampbell300: if dnsmasq is in your $PATH, you can try searching for dnsmasq with which dnsmasq and ls -la [path to dnsmasq]/dnsmasq
[23:43] <jgcampbell300> Meris: it is running as root
[23:44] <Meris> jgcampbell300: in that case you might make the script calling dnsmasq SUID root. This is not without risks, however. Make sure that the script is secure and that you/ your group (if trusted) is the only one able to edit this script.
[23:45] <jgcampbell300> Meris: k trying this now
[23:54] <[Hun]> How to root Sony xperia Go??  Pls help me!
[23:54] <Meris> !ot | [Hun]
[23:57] <datruth> finally got it
[23:57] <datruth> man this was along project
[23:58] <ex0a> will it cause problems if i install both the -radeon and the -ati drivers? how do i choose which is used if there is no dependancy on xorg.conf anymore?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> [Hun]: same way you do it in Windows, copy he files to the SD and hold down the buttons
[23:59] <[Hun]> Link?
[23:59] <needhelp1> i have a question. im running ubuntu 12.4.1 and i think im using way to much memory. I could be wrong but i dono. I have an intel i5, 4gb of memory, an active 6.5 gb swap. and running "free" in terminal displays the following:  memory total 4026388        used 3838992        free 187396         swap: 656 used
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> [Hun]: i'll just be websearching, just like you can