[00:52] <marco__> can someone tell me what does it mean this log? http://pastebin.com/8zFiHNti it's from jockey i get it after xubuntu 12.04 fails to install the updates of my driver (proprietary)
[00:55] <Mahmoud> any windows installer, like ubuntu's but for xubuntu?
[00:55] <bazhang> wubi?
[00:56] <Mahmoud> yeah, works for xubuntu?
[00:56] <bazhang> never tried it.
[00:56] <Mahmoud> does it exist for xubuntu at all?
[00:58] <unheeding> wubi has an option to install xubuntu, i believe
[00:59] <Mahmoud> neat
[01:11] <marco__> why is xubuntu supported for 3 years while ubuntu for 5??
[01:12] <bazhang> 12.04?
[01:12] <marco__> yes
[01:12] <bazhang> !lts
[01:12] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)
[01:12] <bazhang> it's not
[01:12] <marco__> it says 3 years
[01:12] <marco__> (i am talking about the desktop)
[01:12] <knome> xubuntu is supported for 3 years, that's true
[01:13] <marco__> why so?
[01:13] <bazhang>  12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop.
[01:13] <knome> bazhang, the factoid is incorrect
[01:13] <knome> marco__, no workforce to maintain current packages for 5 years
[01:14] <marco__> oh i see
[01:16] <knome> !lts
[01:16] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)
[01:16] <knome> bazhang, ^ updated :)
[01:17] <marco__> does anyone know if it's possible to "reduce" the windows on the panel at the bottom and not on the panel on the top?
[01:18] <marco__> it's so uncomfortable having them on the top
[01:32] <unheeding> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44-part-2/  maybe try AWN?
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[05:14] <caboose1911> Hello everyone
[05:28] <doug_carmichael> I have Xubuntu installed in a VM, and when I select 'Xfce Session' (vs 'Xubuntu session'), the Xfce window appearance stays even when I select Xubuntu session.
[05:28] <doug_carmichael> Is there any way I can bring back the Xubuntu appearance?
[06:49] <the> hello
[06:50] <the> can someone please help me with problems with flash player?
[06:51] <the> I'm new, just installed xubuntu on my old laptop. adobe flash player is not installed. i want to use firefox.
[06:52] <Unit193> the: Enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[06:52] <Unit193> !partner
[06:52] <ubottu> Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »
[06:53] <the> flash player version 11 does not work properly, so i want to install version 10 but don't know how.
[06:54] <Unit193> What's wrong with it?
[06:58] <the> it crashed several times, i could not watch a youtube video, and now it works but the picture is not fluent it s borderline unwatchable.
[07:02] <the> looking up the system requirements for adobe flash player, the problem could be that my laptop has only one GHz, so i figured i'd try  version 10, i downloaded it from the adobe archive (for developpers) but i don't understand how to install it (in the terminal). also i am not sure after installing and uninstalling several times if i have the flashplayer on my computer currently, how can i see that?
[07:03] <Unit193> If you used the package manager, you can check that.  dpkg -l|grep flash  would tell you.
[07:03] <the> what is this partner repo you mentioned? should i install it?
[07:04] <the> sorry i'm really at a loss...
[07:04] <Unit193> It'll still have flash 11, but you could try apt-pinning at version 10 I'd guess.
[07:04] <the> what'S apt-pinning?
[07:07] <bazhang> !pinning > the
[07:07] <ubottu> the, please see my private message
[07:12] <atom_> Hi, is there anyone ?
[07:12] <bazhang> yes
[07:12] <atom_> And is there anyone who can eventually help me ? :D
[07:13] <bazhang> atom_, ask the channel and see
[07:13] <atom_> Ok :)
[07:14] <atom_> I'm running Xubuntu 12.01.1 and I would like to set my screen's brightness. I can't from xcfe4 power manager.
[07:14] <bazhang> 12.04.1?
[07:15] <atom_> Of course, I press the other arrow by mistake :)
[07:18] <atom_> No-one can help me ? :(
[07:22] <the> so I typed the two lines in the terminal (installed the partner repo and checked for flash) and it says: ii  adobe-flash-properties-gtk             11.2.202.238-0precise1                  GTK+ control panel for Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11 ii  adobe-flashplugin                      11.2.202.238-0precise1                  Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11 rc  flashplugin-installer                  11.2.202.238ubuntu0.12.04.1 
[07:22] <the> so i guess i got adobe flash player.
[07:22] <the> plugin
[07:23] <the> ?
[07:23] <Unit193> Yep, but did you endup also installing manually?
[07:24] <the> would you recommend me to uninstall version 11 and install another one (10?)? how do i uninstall it?
[07:31] <Unit193> the: sudo apt-get purge adobe-flashplugin, then you would do a little apt pinning, I think.
[07:43] <the> <unit193> thanks
[07:44] <the> the program did that (amongst other things): Removing adobe-flash-properties-gtk ... Removing adobe-flashplugin ...
[07:45] <the> so now i install adobe flash player 10 ? (i downloaded it) pinning?
[07:51] <the> in the readme from the downloaded adobe flash player it says (among other things):  "The following files are available for your use:  Release Players: Flash Player 10,3,183,23" ...." Linux: ------ - Plugin: flashplayer_10_3r183_23_linux.tar.gz - Standalone: flashplayer_10_3r183_23_linux_sa.tar.gz" how do install that?
[07:51] <the> i guess i need only the plugin not the standalone?
[07:52] <Unit193> Normally you would pin it at version 10 so it installs that, another not great option would be to get a deb off launchpad.  Everything you need for manual install should be in an INSTALL file or README.
[07:52] <Unit193> Also, I need to go at this time.
[07:56] <the> okay, thanks for your help Unit193!!!
[07:58] <the> how do I pin it at version 10. do i have to install it first, no?
[14:00] <PedroHLC> Sorry, can anyone help me? What can I do for Xubuntu sessions mount any connected USB devs(without specifying them) on start like Ubuntu sessions do?
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[14:16] <Guest69098> just xubuntu installed on old Toshiba laptop and well impressed.  iam a radio ham and installed the dstar repeater and ircddbgateway.  runs like a dream
[14:19] <pAt_> hi Guest69098, I am DG2GPK here in Germany
[14:20] <Guest69098> hi DG2GPK from MW1EOR
[14:20] <pAt_> :)
[14:20] <pAt_> I use qtel for echolink
[14:21] <Guest69098> i will have to look at qtel  thanks ;-)
[14:21] <pAt_> nice pice of software :)
[14:22] <Guest69098> just looking at it now.  are you on Dstar pAT
[14:22] <pAt_> nope Guest69098
[14:23] <pAt_> if you need the current debs of qtel, just say it
[14:23] <Guest69098> cool
[14:23] <pAt_> Ok, let me prepare them to download for you
[14:24] <Guest69098> thank you very much
[14:26] <pAt_> Guest69098, http://anime-empire.homelinux.net/qtel.zip
[14:27] <pAt_> Guest69098, you will need to start it like this on a current Xubuntu 12.04: padsp -M /usr/bin/qtel
[14:27] <pAt_> cause it uses the old sound system
[14:27] <Guest69098> ok i will have a go
[14:28] <Guest69098> did you write this?
[14:29] <pAt_> no, I just use it
[14:30] <Guest69098> just extracting now
[14:32] <Guest69098> Sorry pAt new to linux so do i need to make these file as they are .so (Source)
[14:33] <pAt_> no Guest69098, this are already binaries. Just use gdebi to install the deb files
[14:34] <Guest69098> thanks
[14:34] <pAt_> or if you are using the terminal: sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[14:34] <pAt_> yw
[14:42] <Guest69098> thanks
[14:42] <pAt_> does it work?
[14:42] <Guest69098> just installing now
[14:42] <pAt_> ok
[14:45] <pAt_> are you registered on echolink Guest69098 ?
[14:49] <Guest69098> yes, but just looking for the qtel dir as it says it cant find it in /usr/bin/qtel
[14:49] <rensoski> hi all
[14:49] <pAt_> what does "which qtel" says Guest69098 ?
[14:50] <Guest69098> xubuntu when trying to start.  Hold on a mo i think i may have it
[14:50] <pAt_> ok
[14:57] <Guest69098> started it no errors but no gui
[14:57] <pAt_> hmm
[14:57] <pAt_> did you start it in a terminal?
[14:58] <Guest69098> yes and then tried from the menu as it was installed in there
[14:58] <Guest69098> padsp -m /usr/bin/qtel
[14:58] <pAt_> hmm,  try it without padsp -m
[14:58] <Guest69098> opps should be capital M
[14:58] <pAt_> maybe padsp is not installed
[14:59] <pAt_> yes
[15:01] <Guest69098> qtel: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:02] <pAt_> is libqt3-mt installed on your pc?
[15:02] <Guest69098> will check now
[15:03] <Guest69098> just downloading
[15:03] <pAt_> ok
[15:06] <Guest69098> what repository would libjpeg.so.62 be in? as it's failing on that and Synaptic cant find it
[15:07] <bazhang> !info libjpeg62 | Guest69098
[15:07] <ubottu> Guest69098: libjpeg62 (source: libjpeg6b): Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library (version 6.2). In component main, is optional. Version 6b1-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 84 kB, installed size 224 kB
[15:08] <aicasn> is there any way to get ddrescue --fill=+ to ignore write errors? i'm trying to zero out the remaining good sectors of an RMA'd drive
[15:08] <pAt_> Guest69098, the paket is libjpeg62
[15:14] <Guest69098> that Patrick getting there slowly but just been asked to go and peel potatoes for dinner.  so may not get there yet.  I will note your callsign and look foryou on echolink
[15:14] <pAt_> ok, no problem
[15:15] <pAt_> we will test it somewhen then :)
[15:16] <Guest69098> thanks for your help 73's DE MW1EOR
[15:16] <pAt_> np, yw
[15:16] <pAt_> 73 de DG2GPK
[15:19] <Guest69098> its started but cant find your call sign
[15:22] <Guest69098> Hi Patrick its working. connected to Ireland and hear audio
[15:23] <pAt_> cool :) Guest69098
[15:23] <pAt_> unfortunatelly, I have no headset connected atm
[15:24] <Guest69098> same here.
[15:24] <Guest69098> i have to go peel those potatoes.  i will look for you on echolink 73's de MW1EOR
[15:24] <pAt_> you should get a connection request from me atm
[15:24] <pAt_> ok, bye bye, 73
[15:25] <pAt_> I bookmarked your sign
[15:25] <pAt_> cu
[15:26] <Guest69098> bye, booked mark also
[15:49] <doug_carmichael> I tried installing the XFCE 4.10 PPAs, but after I installed them, I wasn't able to log in successfully. (The login process worked OK, but it just dumped me back to the login screen.)
[15:49] <doug_carmichael> What could cause this problem
[15:49] <doug_carmichael> ??
[15:51] <doug_carmichael> I can log in on a guest account, but not on my account.
[16:22] <David-A> doug_carmichael: maybe a problem with a dot-file. move away one dot-file at a time, try login, if no improvement, move dot-file back and move away the next dot-file. (chuck norris would just remove all dot-files, but thats too harsh)
[16:58] <atom_> Does anyone know an alternative in Xubuntu to the Scale plugin of Compiz ?
[17:01] <conspiritech> not me.
[17:01] <conspiritech> just wondering what the diffs between regular and alternate iso are
[17:02] <atom_> alternate permit you to install in command line.
[17:03] <conspiritech> tx
[17:08] <v1adimir> no help currently is #hexchat, does anyone use that client - and has got spell-check to work? hexchat 2.9.1 amd64 the latest
[17:26] <xubuntu596> hi
[17:36] <nikolaj_basher> Hi, is there someone who has experience with duel screen?
[17:37] <Unit193> I don't, but I know xubuntu.org has a faq with setup info.
[17:39] <v1adimir> nikolaj_basher: xubuntu 12.04 for the first time worked by default for me on nvidia 450 gts with 2 different screens
[17:40] <nikolaj_basher> v1adimir, I glad to hear that, because I can't get it to work
[17:41] <v1adimir> :(
[17:42] <v1adimir> nikolaj_basher: I didn't use the xswat repo btw
[17:42] <v1adimir> (perhaps it can 'fix' it for you)
[17:43] <v1adimir> nikolaj_basher: are you on 12.04.1 supposedly it does fix graphics for nvidia afaik
[19:54] <aicasn> is there any way to get ddrescue --fill=+ to ignore write errors? i'm trying to zero out the remaining good sectors of an RMA'd drive
[20:13] <David-A> aicasn: i dont know, look if there are other tools. dd and badblocks can write to sequenses of blocks. you'd have to parse the ddrescue log and maybe compute a bit to pass the right args to them. (dont know if any of them can be told to ignore write errors either.)
[20:31] <unheeding> when I click on a link in irssi, it opens in chrome (i want this) but then gives me an error saying "failed to execute default web browser" "input/output error."  when i put x-www-browser into a terminal, it opens opera, how can i change this to chrome?
[20:33] <rensoski> apps prefers ?
[20:33] <unheeding> i've set that to chrome
[20:34] <unheeding> running x-www-browser still opens opera
[20:34] <rensoski> try sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser
[20:35] <unheeding> update-alternatives: error: unknown argument `–config'
[20:35] <unheeding> update-alternatives: error: unknown argument `–config'
[20:36] <rensoski> 2 --
[20:36] <rensoski> sudo update-alternatives –-config x-www-browser
[20:37] <unheeding> i set it to chrome
[20:37] <unheeding> but opening a url in here still gives me the error message
[20:37] <unheeding> (although it does open up in chrome)
[20:37] <rensoski> www.google.com let me see
[20:38] <unheeding> you want a screenshot?
[20:38] <rensoski> no
[20:40] <rensoski> after use update alternatives, use chrome, it ask for default browser, put yes, then click a link in here, and xchat ask you again for default browser
[20:41] <rensoski> www.google.com
[20:42] <unheeding> opens in chrome, then EXO HELPER 1 message pops up, with the same error
[20:42] <unheeding> Failed to execute default Web Browser.
[20:42] <rensoski> i try it again, and works
[20:42] <unheeding> (but it didn't fail!)
[20:43] <unheeding> i'm going to try logging off and on
[20:43] <rensoski> ok
[20:45] <unheeding> www.google.com
[20:46] <unheeding> huh
[20:46] <unheeding> it worked without error on opening the browser
[20:46] <unheeding> but when i click the link and the browser is already going, i get the error again
[20:49] <rensoski> have chromiun ? try if can
[20:51] <unheeding> this looks like it's just an issue with chrome
[20:51] <unheeding> works with firefox and chromium
[20:59] <idodeisuke> i godda problem with my terminal emulators (ALL OF THEM, gnome-terminal, konsole, etc): the ctrl+page up/down to change between tabs doesn't work anymore, it gives me ''5~ instead. Does anyone know, how to solve this problem?
[21:04] <rensoski> in termina preferences, keybind,
[21:05] <greg_> Hi there. I've got 12.10 running in virtual box, found the checklist to generate a report and don't know where to file it. Anyone have the link?
[22:27] <oelsen> hi
[22:28] <oelsen> i wanted to remove samba but somehow despite having delete the init scripts, it still runs
[22:28] <oelsen> what program or part of xubuntu needs samba to run and is there a way to stop the system of using those to services?
[22:29] <aicasn> you want to remove samba or you want to disable samba on startup?
[22:30] <oelsen> not remove, if possible, only that it doesn't run
[22:30] <oelsen> on startup or any time when the system is running
[22:31] <aicasn> which version of xubuntu are you running?
[22:31] <oelsen> oh, dammit, how do I look that up
[22:31] <oelsen> uname isn't for that, right?
[22:31] <aicasn> lsb_release -a
[22:31] <aicasn> the Release line
[22:32] <oelsen> 10.04
[22:32] <oelsen> Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[22:35] <aicasn> hmm.. i don't have a 10.04 anymore....  on 12.04 you could mkdir /etc/init.d-disabled then mv /etc/init.d/{nmbd,smbd,winbind} /etc/init.d-disabled/
[22:36] <oelsen> huh
[22:36] <oelsen> pkill doesn't work
[22:37] <oelsen> basically "steal" the scripts
[22:40] <oelsen> well, that is interesting. I did mv the files but they still run. after a reboot.
[22:48] <oelsen> that isn't remotely funny
[22:48] <oelsen> smbd did log any devices that advised its name
[22:48] <oelsen> I didn't make that
[22:48] <oelsen> why is this standard configuration?
[22:49] <knome> because that's what most people want when using samba?
[22:49] <oelsen> but I didn't use samba at any time
[22:49] <oelsen> why is this feature turned on in a standard installation?
[22:53] <oelsen> well now those two daemons can't run and the system boots two seconds faster. I hope I don't crash it :D
[23:51] <unheeding> does anyone know how to change the style of window decorations without losing the inverted top menu bar?
[23:53] <knome> "inverted top menu bar" ?
[23:53] <v1adimir> if anyone should care, I've managed to get spelling on hexchat.... [01:32] <v1adimir> TingPing, bviktor: for xubuntu 12.04, it's libenchant-dev that was needed for the spell-checker to work: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09032012-013035am.php
[23:54] <unheeding> knome: its black with white text, the window decorations are greybird
[23:58] <unheeding> if i change the theme the top panel switches to grey and there's no way to get it back