MOSHU | Hi! I have some problems after upgrading Ubuntu from 10.04 to 12.04..... One is upgraded MySQL 5.5 (from 5.1) didn't start.... Can anyone help me, please? | 00:47 |
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dlentz | MOSHU, please use #ubuntu for support | 00:52 |
MOSHU | Why? It's an apparmor upgrade bug | 00:53 |
MOSHU | Anyway... The bug is reported since april, so.... sleep well, guys. | 00:54 |
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lotuspsychje | i have this bug thats been unsolved for years now, and affects many users in different forms..can i paste this here? | 05:57 |
lotuspsychje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782 | 05:59 |
ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 556782 in linux "[rs690m] Graphics corruption with ati x1200" [Critical,Confirmed] | 05:59 |
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paul_ | Having bug issue with Display on a new Samsung laptop. It revolves around the brightness changing on the Display. | 13:10 |
TheLordOfTime | if a bug being filed is a regression between oneiric and precise, should it be tagged `regression`? | 15:40 |
TheLordOfTime | (or precise and quantal, or other such regressions that only show up between releases) | 15:41 |
brendand | regression-release (i believe) | 15:50 |
micahg | TheLordOfTime: regression-release with a task added | 16:19 |
micahg | and the release the regression is in as a tag as well | 16:19 |
TheLordOfTime | micahg: ah, i see. | 16:20 |
TheLordOfTime | well, considering the bug that *is* a regression between oneiric and precise is already awaiting SRU team approval, i don't think that'd be necessary, but now i know what to do :P | 16:20 |
cousteau | bug #919899 is marked as a duplicate of bug #961741 but I think it shouldn't; could someone confirm this? | 17:12 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 919899 in console-setup "Compose sequence apostrophe+c produces a cedilla instead of acute (dup-of: 961741)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/919899 | 17:12 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 961741 in unity "REGRESSION: can't type characters with accent (dead keys)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/961741 | 17:12 |
cousteau | first one is about a compose sequence printing a different character than it used to; 2nd one is about dead keys not working on Dash | 17:13 |
cousteau | hmm... I just clicked "Remove duplicate link" and the duplicate notice just disappeared. Is it that easy to remove duplicate notices? | 17:16 |
mapreri | cousteau: yep, it is so easy :) LP is for lazy people :) | 17:23 |
cousteau | wouldn't that lead to dupe/undupe wars? | 17:24 |
cousteau | user A thinks bug is a duplicate and marks it, user B thinks it isn't and unmarks it, user A considers B didn't understand the problem and marks it, user B is "what's A doing??" and unmarks it, etc | 17:25 |
mapreri | cousteau: we hope users wil follow the CoC also if they don't sign it | 17:29 |
cousteau | (which reminds me, maybe I should sign it...) | 17:30 |
cousteau | ok, thanks for the help :) | 17:35 |
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Logan_ | Can somebody please make Bug 1044429 public, assuming that it doesn't contain any private information? | 20:06 |
jibel | Logan_, done | 20:24 |
Logan_ | jibel: Thanks. :) | 20:24 |
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phillw | hi, any staffers in from ubuntu bugs? | 23:15 |
phillw | I have a complaint from QA that I'd like resolvng, | 23:15 |
hggdh_ | phillw: try it -- perhaps we can help | 23:16 |
phillw | hggdh_: one of the testers has complained that his bug report has been marked as a dupe to a private bug report. This means he can not access it to update it. This is not a wise step to do for a ubuntu tester. It does cause them to raise a complaint with me & my having to come here., | 23:19 |
jtaylor | which bug? | 23:20 |
hggdh_ | well, this can indeed happen. But instead of a complaint, they could have pointed it out. When this happens, we look at the bug, and decide if there is private data justifying keeping the bug private | 23:20 |
phillw | jtaylor: hggdh_https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1024202 | 23:20 |
ubot2` | phillw: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Launchpad instance at 0xa2d980c> bug 1024202 not found | 23:20 |
hggdh_ | but, as jtaylor pointed out, we need the bug number | 23:20 |
phillw | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1041007 | 23:21 |
ubot2` | phillw: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Launchpad instance at 0xa2d980c> bug 1041007 not found | 23:21 |
phillw | they have been marked private | 23:21 |
hggdh_ | stacktrace bugs are born private | 23:22 |
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hggdh | but, for apport, I doubt there will be private data. The stacktrace does not have it | 23:23 |
phillw | I've asked the tester to attend | 23:23 |
hggdh | I marked it public | 23:23 |
hggdh | but, ideally, they should point out the bug is private here. It will happen, and it will still happen, at least for a while | 23:24 |
phillw | hi guys, can you please explain in simple language to nm_geo and myself why he cannot access his own bug report? | 23:24 |
hggdh | oops | 23:24 |
nm_geo | yes please | 23:24 |
hggdh | his *own* bug report he certainly can | 23:25 |
nm_geo | no the private that mine was dupped too | 23:25 |
hggdh | somebody else's bug report -- like a bug _yours_ was dupped against -- is a completely different thing | 23:25 |
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hggdh | nm_geo: OK. Here's what happens: | 23:26 |
nm_geo | I do understand that | 23:26 |
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jtaylor | it was automatically dupped | 23:26 |
nm_geo | That is what I thought | 23:26 |
hggdh | when a stacktrace bug is opened (an apport bug, specifically), this bug is opened private. Apport then goes, and GDBs it, and prints out a nice formatted stacktrace | 23:27 |
phillw | and how do you dupe a public bug into private so he can no longer access it? I guess we have to come here and ask you guys? | 23:27 |
hggdh | the problem is there *may* be private data being shown on the output of 'thread apply all bt full' | 23:27 |
nm_geo | That is why I test using test as a password | 23:28 |
hggdh | so apport leaves the bug private, pending someone with crash access to look and release | 23:28 |
hggdh | nm_geo: it is good you test with throw-away private data. But not all bugs are from tests, some are from real usage :-) | 23:28 |
nm_geo | Well I decide to Public mine hoping it would help but then it got dupped | 23:29 |
jtaylor | you can remove the duplicate status | 23:29 |
hggdh | whenever that happens (a private bug, with dups against it), then the best option is to come in this channel, and ask for someone to look at it | 23:29 |
nm_geo | jtaylor: ok | 23:29 |
jtaylor | but its better to ping someone here to make the master bug public | 23:29 |
nm_geo | I will do that in the future if it appears to be needed bug Thank you guys | 23:30 |
hggdh | nm_geo: and this is what I did -- I went into the bug, and looked at the potentially-private areas, saw nothing critical, made it public | 23:30 |
hggdh | nm_geo: BTW, thank you for helping :-) | 23:31 |
nm_geo | Hey you guys are the ones that have the tough job I just try to find them | 23:31 |
TJ- | Whilst we're on the subject of bug reports going private I had a similar issue recently. I was actively working on a bug that I'd assigned to myself, I'd attached a debdiff patch and subscribed sponsors, and then next time I tried to get into the report to add my linked lp bazaar branch, the bug was no longer accessible. I'm a member of bug-control. It is/was bug #1008289 | 23:31 |
hggdh | TJ-: I also get a message stating there is no such bug. Was it a security issue? | 23:32 |
TJ- | hggdh: It was apt sending a truncated token for auth to the private PPAs for purchased apps, so it could have become that I guess. I got no notification as a bug subscriber though | 23:33 |
hggdh | nm_geo: you would be amazed, then, to find out that *we* really appreciate your help. Really. | 23:33 |
nm_geo | Some day when phillw and Lubuntu get tired of me I might try on the bug-squad | 23:33 |
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TJ- | hggdh: And as I was assigned to it last time I looked I was very confused for a while! | 23:33 |
hggdh | TJ-: this is indeed weird. Perhaps you should ping the folks at #ubuntu-hardened | 23:34 |
jtaylor | you could ask in -hardened | 23:34 |
hggdh | (cuz I also have no access to security bugs) | 23:34 |
TJ- | hggdh: Oh that's encouraging! If you think it's weird too :D | 23:34 |
hggdh | :-) | 23:34 |
jtaylor | if its no security issue then its probably a bug for #launchpad | 23:34 |
TJ- | hggdh: It would be nice if, at least, the bug owner and anyone assigned got a courtesy email telling them the big was being made secure and who to contact about it | 23:34 |
hggdh | yeah | 23:34 |
hggdh | TJ-: usually it is very difficult to re-bag the cat once it is out of the first bag | 23:35 |
TJ- | Oh I dunno... I'm a farmboy... never had any problems with that here :D | 23:35 |
hggdh | one can always try a larger bag, but still.. | 23:35 |
phillw | hggdh: would you prefer me to update the QA area for this answer, or can you guys put it up on bug wiki? | 23:36 |
* hggdh now goes to bed, 44 hours up & running are starting to tell me I am not young anymore | 23:36 | |
hggdh | phillw: if you could, yes, I would really appreciate | 23:37 |
hggdh | I am tired as hell | 23:37 |
jtaylor | I got to get to bed too, n8 | 23:37 |
hggdh | heh | 23:37 |
phillw | hggdh: I'll catch you after we have sleep :) | 23:37 |
hggdh | phillw: tomorrow morning, US CDT time :-) | 23:38 |
phillw | I'm on 24:38 GMT / UTC | 23:38 |
TJ- | 44 hours is a slow train wreck! Get some sleep!! | 23:40 |
phillw | hggdh: remind me at phillw@ubuntu.com | 23:40 |
BHO1 | I just installed Xbuntu yesterday. Today I forgot to plug in my laptop and it died. Ever since it died, my screen has been dim and i can not figure out how to brighten it. | 23:51 |
phillw | BHO1: join #xubuntu that is where the support team is | 23:57 |
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