[01:32] <aarcane> is it possible to use vmbuilder yet, to install releases of ubuntu newer than the current release of the host?
[01:48] <aarcane> so I converted a few of my images to qed for the trim support.  I'm trying to get it working (on ubuntu 12.04), and running into an issue.  using ide, virtio, sata, I get the error FITRIM ioctl failed: Operation not supported.  When I try to use a scsi disk, the VM just won't boot.
[05:18] <pmp6nl> Hey everyone, I was setting up some ssh keys and I think I did it wrong.  Is there a good way to reverse what I did? Can I just delete /.ssh/uploaded_key.pub?
[05:18] <pmp6nl> Thanks
[05:20] <aarcane> pmp6nl, look at the file, delete the offending entry.
[05:21] <aarcane> pmp6nl, also examine .ssh/authorized_keys
[05:21] <pmp6nl> aarcane, ok thanks
[05:21] <aarcane> pmp6nl, if this is the ONLY key you've copied, youj can delete both files.
[05:22] <pmp6nl> aarcane, would it hurt to leave them alone and just not use them?
[05:22] <aarcane> when you attempt to connect with a key, sshd checks .ssh/authorized_keys, so you can't not use that file.
[05:25] <patdk-lap> there is an option to not store new entries in there, but that really hampers security
[05:25] <pmp6nl> aarcane, I am assuming I now have two keys. Or maybe confusing myself. I was following http://library.linode.com/linux-tools/rdiff-backup#sph_add-and-configure-a-backup-user and I did this on the remote server instead of my laptop
[05:26] <aarcane> each key is a single line in authorized_keys.  If you want to remove the offending file, or remove and recreate the file, it should be a simple matter.
[05:26] <pmp6nl> ok aarcane let me take a look at the file
[05:27] <aarcane> patdk-lap, are you talking about the new openssh certificate authorty stuff?
[05:28] <patdk-lap> no, I read that all wrong, I was thinking of knownkeys
[05:33] <linocisco> hi all, I have Canon LJ3050 USB printer, I want to make it network printer and share it for windows client. I want to know how to. I also want to know if I need to make my windows machine as workgroup or join linux domain
[05:34] <aarcane> linocisco, it should be a simple matter of configuring the printer in cups, then sharing it in samba.
[05:34] <aarcane> linocisco, as for adding drivers, that's a bit more nightmarish, and you're better off just installing drivers automatically if you can.
[05:35] <aarcane> Workgroup and Domain are unnecessary, but you SHOULD add user accounts for users.  Just make the linux user account and samba password match the windows user account and password,and you should be fine.
[05:35] <pmp6nl> aarcane, not sure, the scp command worked, but those files appear to be empty
[05:36] <pmp6nl> can I just delete the user?
[06:25] <pmp6nl> Hello everyone, I am trying to use ssh-copy-id user@remote.example.com but I am missing something it keeps asking me for my "Enter passphrase for key '/home/rdiffbackup/.ssh/id_rsa': "  ideas? Thanks
[06:31] <pmp6nl> go it
[06:31] <pmp6nl> got it
[06:55] <linocisco> aarcane, hi
[06:55] <linocisco> aarcane, should we install drivers on ubuntu server and windows machine? or just on ubuntu server ?
[07:01] <linocisco> hi all, my ubuntu server 12.04 on HP DC7100 has small fonts. I dont know how to make it readable for my eyes meaning to enlarge fonts. According to my known experience, I found fonts are so small with higher PCs
[07:02] <linocisco> i want to set my fonts permanently large enough. not with a command to run everytime after log in
[07:13] <linocisco> hi all, I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters%2FCanonPrinters%2FLBP3010 to installl my LBP3050 on ubuntu. but Mine is ubuntu-server, could anyone advice me how to?
[07:14] <MTecknology> Sep  3 02:10:37 luxor kernel: [38753.609704] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=02:80:d7:dc:ff:f3:00:0c:dc:f4:43:00:08:00 SRC=64.175.212.151 DST=147.54.168.23 LEN=204 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=51 ID=0 DF PROTO=AH SPI=0x75d6d5d
[07:14] <MTecknology> How would I allow something like that through ufw?
[07:27] <pmp6nl> holy crap. ANy idea how to undo a chown -R ?
[07:34] <MTecknology> pmp6nl: you get to go through and change it for every single file ore go back to a backup
[07:34] <pmp6nl> ok MTecknology .  As an aside do you know a gui for rdiff-backup that will allow a remote server to be the source?
[07:35] <MTecknology> a gui?
[07:35] <MTecknology> what's a gui?
[08:57] <jamespage> SpamapS, when you start today please could you give me an opinion on bug 1000605
[08:57] <jamespage> it feels like the 'Suggests' relation for the missing dependency is not really strong enough but wanted you take on it
[09:05] <jamespage> Daviey, roaksoax: is bug 975468 on the list for maas features for 12.10?
[10:35] <koolhead17> Daviey: ping
[10:40] <cking> will the quantal server ISO images support UEFI?
[10:45] <cking> no worries, I figured it out myself
[10:50] <koolhead17> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/resolvconf/+bug/1000244
[10:50] <koolhead17> this issue is still in 12.04
[10:51] <koolhead17> i wonder why its marked Incomplete along with so many logs already provided
[10:57] <Daviey> koolhead17: hey
[10:57] <koolhead17> Daviey: how are you sir?
[11:05] <Daviey> koolhead17: ok!
[11:05] <koolhead17> lynxman: how is Puppet treating you sir :P
[11:07] <lynxman> koolhead17: I don't know :)
[11:07] <koolhead17> lynxman: w00t. i thought your nose was deep inside it
[11:08] <lynxman> koolhead17: not really ;)
[11:08] <koolhead17> lynxman: what are you playing with?
[11:39] <sarthor> Hi, can i clone a bootable USB of 8GB to another USB Flash of 8GB, the USB flash drive have win7 isntaller, LinuxMInt installer, acronics, MiniPE,NTpassword OSes, Is it possible with dd command, And how the command wil be?
[12:22] <soren> Daviey: python-quantumclient has grown a new dependency. I can just go ahead an upload it if you want, but if you'd rather wait until after beta freeze that's cool too.
[12:22] <soren> Daviey: It's cliff-tablib which adds some more formatters for the cli tools. Tests for a change in python-quantumclient introduced the dependency. It's not strictly required at runtime.
[12:23] <soren> (but without it, you won't be able to get the quantum cli tools to output json)
[12:23] <Daviey> soren: no, upload it, we'll at least get it in universe, ready for the next snapshot on friday
[12:24] <Daviey> i've heard of cliff-tablib ..
[12:25] <Daviey> I think zul noted it end of last week, but i don't think he hs packaged it yet, soren
[12:25] <soren> Ok.
[12:25]  * soren uploads
[12:36] <soren> Daviey: Oh, it's already there.
[12:37] <soren> Daviey: I missed it because I was looking for python-cliff-tablib, not cliff-tablib.
[12:39] <Daviey> ah, i knew i heard of it recently :)
[13:44] <jibel> Is cdromupgrade still a supported feature in Quantal with the switch to squashfs install ?
[13:47] <Daviey> jibel: Good question :).  Is it something you ever tested? :)
[13:49] <xnox> there is no package pool... but it could do ubiquity style cdromupgrade: reinstall all packages preserving /etc, /home & friends.
[13:49] <jibel> Daviey, I tested offline server upgrade for LTS. It doesn't really make sense for releases in-between IMO, I'm not sure many sysadmins plays with upgrading their DC every 6 months.
[13:49] <Daviey> xnox: that is why i immediately didn't say no. :)
[13:50] <xnox> Daviey: note that ubiquity calls is "reinstall preserving user data" not upgrade ;-)
[13:50] <Daviey> jibel: Maybe i am wrong.. I find upgrade from cd not very interesting TBH.  Either upgrade from network, or re-install if you have a cd to hand.
[13:51] <xnox> Based on comments from slangasek, I understood that that quantal & up will only support network upgrades.
[13:51] <xnox> unless you manually yourself use something like aptoncd and similar to create an "offline" archive.
[13:51] <xnox> and upgrade using that.
[13:55] <Daviey> xnox: oh, well.. if slangasek is offering support for any of the options, i'll leave that alone. :)
[13:57] <xnox> while cdrom upgrade case is useful, it's not that interesting =)
[14:02] <soren> xnox: Funny. I consider it interesting, but not that useful :)
[14:05] <Daviey> soren: +1
[14:06] <soren> TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects
[14:06] <soren> Or is this suddenly #php?
[14:06] <xnox> soren: True
[14:06]  * soren ducks
[14:11]  * Daviey takes the garbage out.  import gc ; gc.enable() ; gc.collect(soren)
[14:13] <soren> Rude
[14:52] <cwillu_at_work> soren, it's okay, there's still references to you, so the collect was a no-op
[14:58] <SpamapS> jamespage: FYI, today is a US holiday.
[14:58] <jamespage> SpamapS, yeah - sorry - Daviey pointed that out to me
[14:58] <jamespage> SpamapS, ignore me for today
[14:58] <jamespage> :=)
[15:00] <soren> SpamapS: orly? That explains rather a lot, actually.
[15:00] <SpamapS> jamespage: no worries. re bug 1000605 , I think its worth fixing in precise... it will confuse quite a few peopl as suggests are almost invisible.
[15:00] <SpamapS> soren: "Labor Day"
[15:00] <jamespage> SpamapS, so we should push that to a direct Depends then?
[15:00] <SpamapS> a day where we honor all workers by sitting on our butts and drinking all day :)
[15:00] <SpamapS> jamespage: yeah, its clearly a depends.
[15:01] <jamespage> SpamapS, we have a couple of other q targetted mysql bugs - lets catchup on them tomorrow when you are actually working :-)
[15:01] <jamespage> nothing urgent - I've just been reviewing release bug lists... :-)
[15:01] <SpamapS> jamespage: innotop, btw, will become its own package after wheezy releases http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660164
[15:01] <sbeattie> Daviey: is keystone going to get promoted from precise-proposed today?
[15:02] <SpamapS> jamespage: I'd love to try and get the test suite passing 100% for ARM
[15:03] <jamespage> SpamapS, +1
[15:06] <Daviey> SpamapS: Are you doing any SRU today?  Someone wants to base an upload on one of the packages?
[15:06] <SpamapS> Wednesday is my usual SRU day
[15:07] <mgw> Does anyone know if Duncan McGreggor (or anyone else that may know about txaws) is on here?
[15:08] <Daviey> SpamapS: well, as you ar here. :).. would you mind ack'ing or nack'ing an express upload based on keystone?
[15:08] <Daviey> SpamapS: it's been in 9 days.. and seems to be jolly good quality.
[15:09] <SpamapS> Daviey: ahh, so this is -> updates ?
[15:09] <Daviey> SpamapS: yeah
[15:10] <Daviey> SpamapS: that'll then let sbeattie base a further update on it... only keystone.  Other stuff can wait till tomorrow
[15:11] <SpamapS> Daviey: they all are marked as verified. Do you specifically want me to wait for the others, or just don't want me to spend holiday time on scanning the test logs? ;)
[15:12] <SpamapS> Daviey: because I'd actually rather that they all hit updates at the same time, given that the CI lab tested them all together.
[15:12] <SpamapS> Daviey: but, I don't want to split hairs.. I will defer to you guys as to what is best.
[15:13] <Daviey> SpamapS: I'd be happy for them all to be published now TBH :)
[15:13] <Daviey> but i was aware that i'm borrowing time :)
[15:15] <SpamapS> Daviey: nova is only 5 days old...
[15:15] <SpamapS> honestly, with the level of CI here..
[15:15] <SpamapS> I think its worth waiving those last 2 days
[15:18] <Daviey> SpamapS: I'm happy with that :)
[15:18] <SpamapS> Daviey: full steam ahead
[15:18] <Daviey> \o/
[15:18] <Daviey> sbeattie: ^ You are good to go.
[15:18] <SpamapS> takes a bit to get those copies done
[15:18] <Daviey> Thanks for checking sbeattie, and thanks for processing today SpamapS
[15:18] <sbeattie> SpamapS, Daviey: thanks
[15:19] <SpamapS> NP
[15:19] <sbeattie> SpamapS: no worries, I have a bit to do on my end, before I can get to my keystone update.
[15:20] <SpamapS> hrm.. timeout..
[15:24] <SpamapS> Weird, nova times out
[15:24] <SpamapS> but keystone is on its merry way to updates
[15:29] <SpamapS> Daviey: ok, glance, nova, keystone, and horizon have all been pushed to -updates
[15:29] <sbeattie> SpamapS: awesome, thanks
[15:29] <SpamapS> np
[15:31] <Daviey> ta
[17:02] <aarcane> So I want to set up my backstore for disk images in such a way that the host running VMs can continue to run VMs when the storage backstore is down indefinitely, or until some temporary holding disk is full at least.  What's the best way to set this up ?
[17:27] <sbeattie> Daviey: FYI, keystone update for precise has been published
[17:31] <Daviey> sbeattie: woot
[17:31] <Daviey> I can feel secure at last. :)
[17:32] <sbeattie> hehe
[17:54] <sternfan2012> any Edubuntu admins out there?
[17:59] <Psi-Jack> sternfan2012: What's that got do with servers?
[18:06] <ogra_> Psi-Jack, likely because edubuntu is a thin client server distro
[18:06] <ogra_> sternfan2012, try #edubuntu
[18:07] <Psi-Jack> is it? I thought it was a distro with educational software or some-such on it.
[18:07] <ogra_> that too
[18:07] <ogra_> it comes with a thin client classrom server installation on the CD
[18:08] <ogra_> but yeah,on the desktop side it has edu SW
[18:09] <sternfan2012> yes - edubuntu is an LTSP server
[18:10] <sternfan2012> ogra - I checked out #edubuntu - pretty much dead today
[18:12] <ogra_> well, its labour day in the US apparently, so that side of the world might be pretty much offline
[18:12] <ogra_> (probably in canada too)
[18:13] <ogra_> sternfan2012, if your quations are actually LTSP specific, try also #ltsp ;)
[18:13] <sternfan2012> Here's my Q - I need to log all websites visited in quid.  When I move to a thin client - they should all get their own IP - but when they start browsing will that show up in the logs?
[18:13] <sternfan2012> I haven't used thin client in ages
[18:14] <ogra_> *questions
[18:24] <shadedpixel> Hi, could anybody help me with this? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hqBWpQMn
[18:26] <lunaphyte> hi.  i have a handful of packages that, while not required for a particular piece of software [amavisd-new], i've installed manually to extend its capabilities.  can i somehow in the packaging system mark a relationship between them, so later on, when i can't remember what some particular package was for, the system can help me remember?
[18:42] <eshlox> hi, who uses the uwsgi? i still get the meessage: group www-data not found (exists in the file groups), if i try add uwsgi user and group.. still the same, suggestions?
[18:57] <WARACE> Hi
[18:57] <WARACE> I am looking to build a ubuntu server with apache and a mail server
[18:58] <RoyK> !mail
[18:58] <RoyK> !mailserver
[18:58] <RoyK> !webmail
[18:58] <lunaphyte> a mail server for what?
[18:59]  * RoyK guesses SMTP and IMAP and a web-based frontend
[19:00] <lunaphyte> often, people who ask about "mail servers" in the context of a web server just want to send email notifications etc.
[19:01] <RoyK> WARACE: ?
[19:02] <WARACE> I see Zimbra
[19:02] <RoyK> zimbra works well, in a VM
[19:02] <RoyK> but doesn't work well with other ubuntu services
[19:02] <WARACE> I am looking for Ease of use and easy management
[19:03] <RoyK> it uses a separate installed base of both mail and web services
[19:03]  * RoyK uses zimbra in a VM
[19:05] <WARACE> also if I want to build a second backup server to mirror my main apache/mail server can this be done?
[19:05] <WARACE> Sorry for the noob questions
[19:05] <WARACE> I can script and build pages deploy apache and other services but never really built a server for myself
[19:06] <WARACE> I want to be able to host my own site with redundancy I am open to suggestions
[19:06] <WARACE> I was thinking of building 3 servers
[19:07] <WARACE> one for pre-development testing of my scripts and pages
[19:07] <WARACE> and QA
[19:08] <WARACE> one as the production server and one as a backup so when I need to maintain the main server I can put the backup online
[19:11] <RoyK> WARACE: if you want to use zimbra for this, I'd recommend #zimbra, not here
[19:11] <WARACE> RoyK: is there any other mail server you would recommend I am not only leaning towards zimbra
[19:12] <RoyK> zimbra isn't supported by ubuntu/canonical and will probably never be, the way zimbra seems to want to close down on details and refrain from going totally open, as in, post packages compatible with ubuntu and other distros
[19:12] <RoyK> WARACE: as I said, I use Zimbra myself, but isolated in a VM, since it doesn't work well with installed packages of apache+postfix+++
[19:13] <RoyK> WARACE: YMMW, but there are several other solutions out there - zimbra still works well, but it needs to be in a separate environment
[19:13] <lunaphyte> thing is, zimbra isn't a mail server.  it's a groupware system.  those are two completely different things
[19:14] <lunaphyte> zimbra is also recently becoming more and more proprietary/commercial
[19:14] <RoyK> lunaphyte: those are not completely different things, if zimbra were released as packages, it would be very well welcomed to most distros. unfortunately, they stick to separte installs to sell commmercial licenses
[19:14] <WARACE> I want plain Apache, MySQL, PHP
[19:14] <WARACE> and a mail server
[19:14] <RoyK> !mailserver
[19:15] <RoyK> !apache
[19:15] <RoyK> !php
[19:15] <lunaphyte> huh?  a groupware system and a mail server are completely different things, yes.
[19:15] <RoyK> WARACE: it's no problem building an open mail- or groupware system completely by hand
[19:15] <RoyK> WARACE: it just takes a bit more time than installing zimbra, and it probably won't be as sexy
[19:15] <WARACE> then I want to be able to mirror that to a backup server
[19:16] <RoyK> then you use DRBD and heartbeat or something like that
[19:16] <RoyK> works with most systems
[19:16] <RoyK> zimbra doesn't work well without that either
[19:17] <RoyK> or you use a commercial-grade SAN with replication
[19:17] <RoyK> or...
[19:17] <WARACE> yeah sounds like i need to stay away from that for what i need
[19:17] <RoyK> well, you probably need DRBD etc for anything if you want to replicate a live system
[19:18] <RoyK> regardless of what you choose
[19:18] <WARACE> Great I will research it
[19:18] <RoyK> HA clustering isn't a stroll in the park, it takes a bit of studies
[19:18] <WARACE> I love to study :-)
[19:19] <Troy^> do any of you host your own website on your own box?
[19:19] <WARACE> Sounds like fun
[19:19] <RoyK> WARACE: I spoke to met.no (norwegian meteorolgial institute) - they use zimbra with drbd and heartbeat, two locations, full failover
[19:19] <RoyK> WARACE: and zimbra is good, but it needs to be on a dedicated machine, or VM, but then KVM is part of Ubuntu, and not very hard to setup
[19:20] <WARACE> ok so Zimbra on its own box
[19:20] <RoyK> or VM
[19:20] <WARACE> and my Apache SQL PHP on its own box with DRBD
[19:20] <Troy^> hmm my linux box is at like 44% memory usage
[19:21] <RoyK> apache/php/mysql/postgresql/whatever for other uses than email/groupware should be in a separate VM
[19:21] <RoyK> DRBD used to mirror two zimbra installations
[19:21] <RoyK> zimbra includes email+apache+php+java+whatever
[19:22] <WARACE> Hmmm I will take a deep look into that tonight
[19:22] <Troy^> is there a way to see what processes are using the most memory?
[19:22] <RoyK> top
[19:22] <RoyK> M
[19:22] <WARACE> I need to get to work lol so I can afford to buy this equiptment
[19:23] <WARACE> Troy* wont ps aux give you a list of that?
[19:23] <RoyK> WARACE: seriosly - you want to setup a redundant zimbra installation for private purposes?
[19:23] <WARACE> RoyK its for a project I want to deploy
[19:24] <WARACE> I don't want to use a third party host
[19:24] <WARACE> I have a 50/50Mbps line here
[19:24] <WARACE> doing nothing lol
[19:24] <RoyK> WARACE: ok, get some cheap machines off ebay ;)
[19:25] <WARACE> so I figured I will put it to good use since I am paying for it
[19:25] <RoyK> WARACE: keep in mind that a redundant installation should be separated so that if your link goes down, the site doesn't
[19:25] <WARACE> True
[19:25] <RoyK> meaning redundant BGP routing in place
[19:25] <RoyK> not very easy to get from your common ISP :P
[19:26] <WARACE> My ISP offers anything I like but they will charge me for it lol
[19:26] <Troy^> i wonder where i can find cheap dual channel 2gb ddr sets
[19:26] <WARACE> $200 business line
[19:27] <RoyK> WARACE: only problem is, you need two different ISPs to be sure about the link
[19:27] <Troy^> lol business packages don't block web and email servers right?
[19:27] <RoyK> WARACE: and you need your own IP addresses, with BGP routing, and routers supporting that
[19:27] <WARACE> all my ports are open
[19:27] <WARACE> and I am in a regular home package now
[19:27] <RoyK> lol
[19:28] <Troy^> hmm i have one more stick of 256mb of ram i can put in my box
[19:28] <WARACE> yeah business line provides static ips
[19:28] <RoyK> meaning your ISP will probably smile at you if you ask for redundant BGP routing ;)
[19:28] <Troy^> currently have 1.5gb of ram in it but 44% is being used :S
[19:28] <WARACE> I have 16GB of ram on this computer
[19:29] <WARACE> :-)
[19:29] <Troy^> this one here has 8gb.. but my cheap p4 linux server doesn't have very much
[19:29] <Troy^> takes ddr1
[19:29] <WARACE> DDR3 here
[19:30] <WARACE> well ttyl
[19:30] <RoyK> WARACE: one small tip: there's no reason to setup a redundant zimbra installation in a single site, and to make it dual-site, you'll need BGP routing, meaning you will need a separate IP subnet, and a good deal with two ISPs. That won't be cheap
[19:31] <RoyK> WARACE: better make a single-site-setup with good redundancy on the disks, PSUs etc, and forget about DRBD and friends
[19:32] <WARACE> Not too worried about pricing I will leave that up to the financial partner
[19:32] <WARACE> He likes my idea he wants to put money down on it
[19:32] <WARACE> I just don't want my scripts on anyone elses servers
[19:32] <RoyK> WARACE: you'll also need other links, home ISPs don't deliver BGP, nor subnets
[19:33] <WARACE> I will upgrade Verizon here does anything for money
[19:33]  * RoyK wonders what WARACE is smoking
[19:33] <WARACE> So does Cablevision
[19:34] <WARACE> And i guess if I can not get the lines put in here I can get them installed at the office site
[19:34] <Troy^> jeez wth are you doing lol
[19:35] <WARACE> He has a T1 line at the office which to me is garbage
[19:35] <Troy^> ya T1 is dumb
[19:35] <RoyK> 1.54Mbps
[19:35] <RoyK> \o/
[19:35] <Troy^> i get 4 times that
[19:35]  * RoyK has 60Mbps symmetric FTTH
[19:36] <Troy^> yea i have ftth too
[19:36] <Troy^> 50/30
[19:36] <WARACE> i have 50/50Mbps FIOS
[19:36] <RoyK> FIOS?
[19:36] <RoyK> FTTP!
[19:36] <WARACE> Fiber Optic Service
[19:37] <Troy^> i want to see how fast i can upload to someone
[19:37] <Troy^> never really tried it
[19:38] <Troy^> http://speedtest2.eastlink.ca/larger.file.bin 2012-09-03 16:37:52 (4.62 MB/s) - `larger.file.bin' saved [262144000/262144000]
[19:38] <RoyK> WARACE: FTTH is the name for that - fiber to the home - or FTTP - fiber to the porn, for some ;)
[19:38] <Troy^> i can get 5.7MBps
[19:38] <Troy^> anyone have a ftp i can see how fast i can upload to you. i want to test it out
[19:39]  * RoyK gets 7MB/s or so
[19:40] <Troy^> only crappy thing my ip is dynamic
[19:40]  * RoyK has static ip
[19:41] <RoyK> too bad they don't have ipv6 so far
[19:41] <Troy^> yea everything should move to ipv6
[19:41] <WARACE> LOL
[19:41] <WARACE> Verizon calls it FIOS here
[19:42] <Troy^> BellAliant calls it FibreOP here
[19:42] <WARACE> Fiber Optic Sexcapades
[19:42] <WARACE> involves allot of handy work
[19:42] <RoyK> ;)
[19:42] <WARACE> lol
[19:43] <WARACE> and self deployment
[19:44] <Troy^> WARACE: got a ftp setup i can test how fast i can upload?
[20:18] <SpinningWheels1> i have a box that seems to be having some interesting networking issues that i have not encountered before. i can connect to services on it from inside the LAN. when i attempt to ping google from the box, it can successfully resolve the DNS but will fail with "Network is unreachable". It seems to be working but refuses to access the internet.
[20:19] <SpinningWheels1> same story with the vm that is on it
[20:19] <Troy^> still sounds like a DNS issue
[20:20] <lunaphyte> ping via ip address, and solve that first
[20:20] <lunaphyte> if you can't figure it out, pastebin ifconfig -a; route -n
[20:20] <Troy^> 173.194.75.94 that is one of google's ips
[20:21] <SpinningWheels1> Network is unreachable. one of my tests was a wget google.com, it listed about 10 of google's ip's which is what lead me to believe that DNS was working. incorrect assumption?
[20:22] <lunaphyte> [4:20pm] lunaphyte: if you can't figure it out, pastebin ifconfig -a; route -n
[20:22] <lunaphyte> [4:20pm] Troy^: 173.194.75.94 that is one of google's ips
[20:22] <lunaphyte> oops
[20:22] <Troy^> haha!
[20:22] <lunaphyte> [4:20pm] lunaphyte: ping via ip address, and solve that first
[20:22] <lunaphyte> that was the one i intended to repeat
[20:22] <SpinningWheels1> okay
[20:23] <lunaphyte> pick an address that you can demonstrate pings successfully from elsewhere
[20:33] <SpinningWheels1> okay, it can ping any LAN PC, any LAN PC can ping it, as well as access it's services. I can resolve DNS queries with dig (even tried .coms that i NEVER visit). Cannot ping any resource on the internet. my ifconfig appears as it always does, my route -n has http://pastebin.com/jCr8zZ4S
[20:35] <lunaphyte> [4:22pm] lunaphyte: [4:20pm] lunaphyte: if you can't figure it out, pastebin ifconfig -a; route -n
[20:35] <lunaphyte> please follow directions if you'd like free help.
[20:36] <jMCg> heh
[20:43] <Troy^> there another 256mb of ram installed in server
[20:43] <SpinningWheels1> i graciously thank you for your "free help". i am open to alternative avenues.
[20:44] <lunaphyte> again...
[20:44] <lunaphyte> "if you can't figure it out, pastebin ifconfig -a; route -n"
[20:48] <ehnde> is there any way i can regenerate /etc/mime.types ?
[20:50] <ehnde> nginx: [emerg] unknown directive "application/activemessage" in /etc/mime.types:821
[20:51] <lunaphyte> why do you need to regenerate it?
[20:51] <ehnde> lunaphyte: i figured i edited it at one point in time (don't remember)
[20:51] <lunaphyte> why not just address the offending entry?
[20:52] <ehnde> the error doesn't make sense, there are no ; or } anywhere in the file
[20:52] <lunaphyte> i don't see any references to ; or } in the error you shared
[20:53] <ehnde> ahh, yes you are right...looks like the error is different now. my mistake!
[20:53] <ehnde> i still feel it'd be easier to regenerate that file
[20:53] <lunaphyte> you'd simply want to do what's right, not easier.
[20:54] <lunaphyte> imo, if you don't remember what you've done to that file, you'd want to compare it to a backup
[20:54] <ehnde> it's saying unknown directive "application/activemessage on line 821 if i'm reading it right
[20:54] <lunaphyte> yes, that's likely
[20:54] <ehnde> line 821 is x-world/x-vrml
[20:54] <Troy^> anyone here haven't signed up for ubuntu one storage yet want to sign up and give both us an extra 500mb of storage?
[20:55] <lunaphyte> ehnde: the way parsers generally work, the line number is a clue, not an answer.
[20:57] <lunaphyte> if you can't figure it out, pastebin the preceding and following 20 or so lines
[20:59] <ehnde> restored a backup of the file, now i'm going to pastebin the original error and those 20 lines
[21:00] <ehnde> http://pastebin.com/05cyUuJw
[21:00] <ehnde> maybe it's a problem with nginx
[21:01] <lunaphyte> which line in your pastebin is 821 now?
[21:01] <lunaphyte> oh, 822, rather
[21:02] <ehnde> the last line in the pastebin post is line # 821
[21:02] <lunaphyte> ...
[21:02] <lunaphyte> "the preceding and following 20 or so lines"
[21:03] <ehnde> ah yes, reading failure
[21:03] <lunaphyte> cat -n /etc/mime.types
[21:03] <lunaphyte> pastebin lines 800-850
[21:04] <ehnde> 822 is eof
[21:04] <lunaphyte> ah
[21:04] <ehnde> http://pastebin.com/PH5zT78H
[21:04] <ehnde> if i put a ; at the very end, it complains about the first line in the file
[21:05] <lunaphyte> so there's your clue
[21:05] <lunaphyte> is nginx intended to use the system mime types file?
[21:06] <ehnde> well... /etc/nginx/mime.types exists :o
[21:06] <ehnde> and...it's formatted differently!
[21:07] <lunaphyte> perhaps that's the one you should be using then for nginx?
[21:07] <ehnde> it must be
[21:08] <ehnde> nginx: the configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf syntax is ok
[21:09] <ehnde> thanks lunaphyte!
[21:09] <lunaphyte> sure thing
[21:11] <Troy^> is there anyway to upload a file to my ubuntu one account via term?
[22:12] <jeeves_moss> has anyone had any issues with Postfix and Dovecot after a dist upgrade?
[22:28] <JanC> jeeves_moss: what sort of issues?
[22:28] <JanC> and what do you mean by "dist upgrade" ?
[22:30] <jeeves_moss> JanC, I did a do-dist-upgrade
[22:32] <JanC> there have been some changes in the (recommended) config options for dovecot over the years
[22:32] <lunaphyte> why not share the specific problem you're having?
[22:33] <jeeves_moss> I'm getting an error code of "init: dovecot main process (25571) terminated with status 89"
[22:33] <JanC> although I think in most cases they were just deprecating things and not removing them
[22:33] <lunaphyte> jeeves_moss: pastebin doveconf -n
[22:33] <JanC> reading Dovecot upgrade notes / changelogs might be useful
[22:33] <jeeves_moss> lunaphyte, one sec
[22:35] <jeeves_moss> lunaphyte, http://pastebin.com/CXv3Lju5
[22:36] <lunaphyte> huh
[22:36] <lunaphyte> i did not ask for that.
[22:36] <lunaphyte> oh well, off to do other things.  good luck.
[22:37] <jeeves_moss> lunaphyte, ok, thanks anyways
[22:38] <jeeves_moss> lunaphyte, http://pastebin.com/W65Xeqzg
[22:40] <JanC> jeeves_moss: the error on the end of that should give you a clue about where to look  ☺
[22:41] <JanC> actually, 2 errors there
[22:42] <jeeves_moss> JanC, yea.  I just haven't had the paticene to sit down and figure it out.
[22:42] <JanC> one about an ssl certificate, and one about missing a driver for the password database (that last one sounds like you're missing the dovecot-mysql package)
[22:43] <jeeves_moss> JanC, yes, I am using MySQL.  I'm going to try to fix that first.
[22:45] <JanC> the other error is that it seems like your config doesn't point to an ssl certificate (or points to a file that doesn't exist or ...)
[22:45] <jeeves_moss> JanC, I'm not 100% why a dist upgrade would break stuff
[22:47] <JanC> jeeves_moss: depends on how you installed it
[22:47] <jeeves_moss> JanC, the "do-dist-upgrade" command
[22:48] <JanC> I mean how you installed it in a previous version
[22:48] <jeeves_moss> JanC, "apt-get install dovecot", etc
[22:48] <JanC> there were no separate dovecot-<database> packages in Lucid
[22:48] <jeeves_moss> JanC, no idea.  I do remember getting it from APT
[22:50] <JanC> and I think the upgrade should work fine if you installed the 'dovecot' metapackage, but maybe not if you only installed the packages you actually needed separately
[22:50] <JanC> (but I didn't test that upgrade...)
[22:50] <jeeves_moss> I dont think so.  I'll have another look
[22:52] <JanC> jeeves_moss: so, does installing dovecot-mysql help to fix one of those 2 bugs?
[22:52] <jeeves_moss> I think it is.  let me look
[22:53] <jeeves_moss> weird, I wonder why it wasn't installed
[22:55] <JanC> do/did you have dovecot-common installed?  (that seems to be the "transitional package" that should pull in dovecot-mysql & co. on upgrades)
[22:56] <jeeves_moss> yep, it's installed
[22:57] <JanC> hm, seems like the dependencies are only listed as suggested, so that might explain something
[22:57] <jeeves_moss> ??
[22:59] <JanC> it might explain why the dovecot-mysql package isn't installed
[23:01] <pmp6nl> I have mounted an ubuntu server to by ubuntu laptop via fstab and sshfs.  I want to do backups via this, however my user does not have access to some of the folder/files, iE: var/log.  is there a safe way to give the user access to back these files up?  Thanks
[23:02] <JanC> pmp6nl: how can it be safe for a user to backup files it is not allowed to read?
[23:02] <pmp6nl> JanC, Good question.  But is it more safe to ssh in as root?
[23:03] <JanC> in case of /var/log, usually you can read files in there if the user is a member of group 'adm'
[23:03] <JanC> but not in all cases, I guess
[23:04] <pmp6nl> What about other files JanC -- I am looking for a good way to backup files to my laptop and I figured rsync via the mount would be a good option.  But I see permission read errors
[23:05] <JanC> pmp6nl: one thing you could do is to have a cron job that makes an archive of those files, and then uses chown/chmod to give the backup user access to the archive
[23:06] <JanC> you could even use encryption on the archive, that way the user can backup the archive, but not read its contents...
[23:06] <jeeves_moss> JanC, what's the dovecot command to check for erros again?
[23:06] <pmp6nl> JanC, Humm, that may work.  I wonder how much harder that will make keeping versions of each file.  I dont care if the user can read the backup as the user is me
[23:07] <JanC> for configuration errors: "doveconf -n"
[23:07] <lunaphyte> jeeves_moss: can't you read you scrollback, dude?
[23:07] <jeeves_moss> JanC, thank you.  and no, Xchat sucks
[23:08] <lunaphyte> why not use an irc client that doesn't suck?
[23:08] <JanC> jeeves_moss: Xchat has great scrollback support...
[23:08] <jeeves_moss> it locked up, so I can't scroll back
[23:08] <JanC> it will show scrollback even after you restart it...
[23:09] <jeeves_moss> anyways...  Now, lt's figure out why it can't see the MySQL driver
[23:10] <JanC> pmp6nl: in that case, maybe you can configure sudo to allow the backup command
[23:12] <pmp6nl> JanC, humm, perhaps.  I will have to research that as I do not know much about the topic