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Squirmlo05:10
Kilosmorning all05:12
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DigiGrammorning all05:40
DigiGramthe channel's log is available publicly right?05:40
DigiGramnever mind, found it05:44
inetprogood morning06:00
Kiloshi inetpro DigiGram Tonberry 06:10
Squirmhello again06:13
Kiloshiya Squirm 06:18
Kiloshiya maiatoday psydroid 06:28
maiatodayhi Kilos06:48
jrgnsmorning all07:24
Kiloshi jrgns 07:24
psydroidhi Kilos maiatoday jrgns and others07:29
DigiGramto the coders, Googlecode vs sourceforge vs bitbucket to host projects? Whats your views?08:32
DigiGramI'm new to git, SVN or Hg, so any would do, as long as it is easy and usable08:33
Kerberogit.08:34
DigiGramfrom what I've read I thought about git as well08:34
DigiGrambut then you get github, bitbucket, googlecode and sourceforge. Maybe I should start out with one and move to the next if I don't like it08:35
superflyo/10:57
Kiloswb superfly 10:57
Squirmlo10:58
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smile4hi :)14:01
Squirmhi14:10
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Kiloswhew Digi||Gram you got piped14:26
Kiloshi smile4 14:33
smile4Kilos: :)14:34
nuvolarikbmonkey: ping15:16
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superflyKilos: hoe gaan dit oom? 17:45
Kilosok dankie superfly en daar?17:45
Kilosbaie gele vandag17:46
superflymoeg dankie 17:46
Kilosai jy word oud nou17:46
superflyi know, I know...17:47
Kilosha ha ha17:47
Kiloshows the family?17:47
Kilossay hi to mrs fly and zack for me17:47
Kilosother one still too small17:47
superflythey are fine. zak is naughtier than ever17:49
Kilosso Squirm did you install ubuntu?17:50
Kiloshahaha17:50
superflyit's not funny, it's incredibly tiring.17:51
Kilosyeah but they grow up superfly 17:51
Kilosonly 20 years or so to go17:51
Kilosor get a big stick17:52
nuvolarihrr! :-/18:09
nuvolarihi oom Kilos 18:10
Kiloshi nuvolari 18:11
nuvolarihet oom die apie vandag gesien?18:11
Kilosek glo nie apie is hier nie18:11
nuvolariaai ok dankie oom18:12
Kilosdis sy irssi ding wat hier wys18:12
nuvolariek't vergeet ek moet saterdag pannekoek bak :-/18:12
Kiloslol18:12
nuvolariek sal hom gou mail18:13
Kilosepos18:13
Kilosnight all. sleeep tight18:54
magespawnevening all18:59
Squirmevening19:16
magespawnhey Squirm19:25
Squirmmagespawn: what's your favourite distro?19:42
magespawnvanilla ubuntu but the 10.0419:43
magespawni have tried xubuntu and kubuntu19:44
magespawnboth cool, I have just installed Bodhi Linux, ubuntu based19:45
Squirmwhy 10.04 over 12.04?19:45
magespawnnever really got the hang of unity19:45
Squirmglad I'm not the only one19:46
Squirmalso don't really like Gnome 319:46
magespawni have unity 12.04 on one of the shop computers so I do use it19:47
magespawnit is slower than gnome19:47
magespawnon the other i have xcfe or xfce always mix that up19:47
magespawnand you Squirm?19:51
superflyxfce 19:53
kbmonkeyhi hi19:58
superflyohi kbmonkey19:59
magespawnhey kbmonkey20:01
magespawnthanks superfly you still awake?20:02
superflymagespawn: of course20:03
magespawnenjoying the kids? lol20:06
superflymagespawn: heh.20:15
kbmonkeyhi superfly and magespawn20:16
kbmonkeyexcuse my slowness, it's monday after all ;)20:17
* superfly really wants to hit Navdeep Singh over the head with a blunt object20:27
superflyseriously dude, we've already schooled you in Netiquette, and you still can't manage that.20:27
superflynot to mention sending a user-related query to the Ubuntu kernel team!20:28
Tonberrysomehow i think i'm only getting half the mails again20:28
superflyhis "to" field only ever seems to grow with mailing lists20:28
Tonberryoh20:28
Tonberrythat20:28
Tonberrybut20:28
Tonberrybut20:28
* Tonberry needs to compose himself20:28
superflyTonberry: oh, is that you?! :-P20:29
Tonberryno20:29
Tonberryhell no20:29
Tonberrydid not see the rest of the to field the first time20:29
superflyTonberry: it seems to grow with every query he sends20:30
Tonberryhow does one reach that level of cluelessness but still find the power button?20:30
magespawnsuperfly whats the background?20:30
* Tonberry checks his logs20:32
superflymagespawn: a particularly clueless user on the mailing lists20:32
Tonberrythis guy is the king of crossposting20:32
Tonberryhe was asking for internship advice on the ubuntu kernel-team list...20:33
superflybizactly20:33
magespawnohh right well sometimesmwe get those20:33
magespawnis he posting to multiple lists?20:34
Tonberryyes20:34
Tonberry6 of them in the latest mail20:34
magespawnokay then. also cannot type, use punctuation or sentence structure, the mail reads like a bad sms.20:37
superflyOom Kilos is living proof that you can suffer from brain damage and still get it right. How this guy can't, I have no idea.20:37
superflymagespawn: He's from India20:37
magespawnahh 20:38
magespawnSome of it is okay. But the rest, anyways.20:40
kbmonkeyNow I see the email. That is just too rude. eish20:41
magespawnand the number of people it was sent to, amazing20:43
magespawnand the number of people it was sent to, amazing20:51
magespawnwhoops20:52
kbmonkeyA pity the list doesn't have a 'report spam/user' option20:52
magespawnsaid that twice20:53
kbmonkeysudo !!20:53
kbmonkeylol20:53
magespawni have had problems with bottom posting in email 20:54
magespawnthats what I wanted to say^^^20:58
kbmonkeyit's annoying when reading mail on small phone screens, eh.20:59
magespawnpeople miss the bottom post often too21:01
Squirmmagespawn: sorry. I don't really know what distro I like21:02
magespawnwell thats the best thing you can try them all21:03
SquirmI've tried a lot21:04
magespawnmaybe read http://www.zdnet.com/the-truth-about-goobuntu-googles-in-house-desktop-ubuntu-linux-7000003462/ 21:04
SquirmI like Debian21:07
Squirmso I think I'm going to go for Ubuntu21:07
SquirmI think I'm going to just do what I've done now with my current install21:07
kbmonkeywhat is your current install Squirm? see the alpha for the Gnome Shell edition of ubuntu is out..21:10
Squirmkbmonkey: running Debian, without Gnome. Have pekwm as my window manager, pcmanfm as file manager, using tint2 as my bar and feh to draw my background21:11
SquirmI think I'll do the same, but with Ubuntu(so I get the later packages)21:12
superflySquirm: why not just use Debian unstable?21:16
superflyif you're using it for a desktop, unstable is recommended21:16
Squirmhmm21:16
Kerberojip21:17
magespawni am trying bodhi linux21:18
Squirmsuperfly: Debian-testing ?21:22
superflySquirm: that's fairly old. Unstable has actually just gone into feature freeze, so that'll become the next testing, if I have my Debian procedure correct.21:24
Squirmcause I'm currently running Squeeze still21:25
Squirmwhich I know is old21:25
Squirmsuperfly: if I add the sid repo to debian, what would happen then? would I be able to do an update?21:27
magespawni am out of here now, bed is calling night all.21:28
superflySquirm: that I do not know. Best to consult the Intarwebs, more specifically the Googols21:28
superflynight magespawn21:28
* superfly wants to do the same21:28
Squirmnight magespawn21:28
Squirmam looking now superfly 21:28
Squirmand thanks21:28
kbmonkeysid is testing. you *could* update, but it would potentially break a lot of things Squirm 21:33
kbmonkeyusually what one does, is add testing and only install selected packages from testing. the ones you need.21:33
Squirmthe links I find, tell me just to add the repo to apt21:34
Squirmhmm, how would I choose just to update certain packages? would it give me an option between versions?21:34
kbmonkeywell, lets see21:35
SquirmI mean, I can install a package and update it. but say I want to install another library, not from sid21:35
kbmonkeyim still new at this, but pinning defines which repos get priority21:35
kbmonkeybut to install from testing you use apt -t option21:35
Squirmso before you said this, I added the repo inplace of squeeze, did an apt-get update21:38
Squirmnow I want to update 3 packages21:38
Squirm245 upgraded, 187 newly installed, 26 to remove and 973 not upgraded.21:38
SquirmNeed to get 318 MB of archives.21:38
SquirmAfter this operation, 282 MB of additional disk space will be used.21:38
SquirmDo you want to continue [Y/n]? 21:38
Squirmlol21:38
Squirmlike you said, probably bad move, so I won't21:38
Squirmand then I added sid and squeeze into apt21:43
Squirmsame thing21:43
kbmonkeylol, yes I made that mistake. borked the system badly.21:46
kbmonkeywhat needs to be done, is to edit /etc/apt/preferences and add an entry for the testing repo, and give it a lower priority, so it wont be preferred by default21:47
kbmonkeyits called 'pinning'. google that for proper steps :)21:47
kbmonkeythen you call apt with -t to specify the target release when you only want testing packages21:48
Squirmthanks21:48
kbmonkeyhow I installed the 3.2 linux kernel so my intel graphics works 21:48
kbmonkeyof course, newer distros have this kernel, im just using an older distro :p 21:48
Squirmmeh21:51
Squirmnow running apt-get update21:51
Squirmand trying to install any new package is asking me to update still21:52
kbmonkeyawe, past bed time. got to get up for work in 5 hours :(21:52
kbmonkeyremove the testing repo then update21:52
Squirmdon't know if it'll help21:53
Squirmmy system could just seriously be out of date21:53
Squirmwhich it probably is21:53
Squirmah21:54
Squirmit's gone now21:54
Squirmty21:54
kbmonkey:)21:56
kbmonkeygoodnight all22:06
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