[05:10] <Squirm> lo
[05:12] <Kilos> morning all
[05:40] <DigiGram> morning all
[05:40] <DigiGram> the channel's log is available publicly right?
[05:44] <DigiGram> never mind, found it
[06:00] <inetpro> good morning
[06:10] <Kilos> hi inetpro DigiGram Tonberry 
[06:13] <Squirm> hello again
[06:18] <Kilos> hiya Squirm 
[06:28] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday psydroid 
[06:48] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[07:24] <jrgns> morning all
[07:24] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[07:29] <psydroid> hi Kilos maiatoday jrgns and others
[08:32] <DigiGram> to the coders, Googlecode vs sourceforge vs bitbucket to host projects? Whats your views?
[08:33] <DigiGram> I'm new to git, SVN or Hg, so any would do, as long as it is easy and usable
[08:34] <Kerbero> git.
[08:34] <DigiGram> from what I've read I thought about git as well
[08:35] <DigiGram> but then you get github, bitbucket, googlecode and sourceforge. Maybe I should start out with one and move to the next if I don't like it
[10:57] <superfly> o/
[10:57] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[10:58] <Squirm> lo
[14:01] <smile4> hi :)
[14:10] <Squirm> hi
[14:26] <Kilos> whew Digi||Gram you got piped
[14:33] <Kilos> hi smile4 
[14:34] <smile4> Kilos: :)
[15:16] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: ping
[17:45] <superfly> Kilos: hoe gaan dit oom? 
[17:45] <Kilos> ok dankie superfly en daar?
[17:46] <Kilos> baie gele vandag
[17:46] <superfly> moeg dankie 
[17:46] <Kilos> ai jy word oud nou
[17:47] <superfly> i know, I know...
[17:47] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[17:47] <Kilos> hows the family?
[17:47] <Kilos> say hi to mrs fly and zack for me
[17:47] <Kilos> other one still too small
[17:49] <superfly> they are fine. zak is naughtier than ever
[17:50] <Kilos> so Squirm did you install ubuntu?
[17:50] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:51] <superfly> it's not funny, it's incredibly tiring.
[17:51] <Kilos> yeah but they grow up superfly 
[17:51] <Kilos> only 20 years or so to go
[17:52] <Kilos> or get a big stick
[18:09] <nuvolari> hrr! :-/
[18:10] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[18:11] <Kilos> hi nuvolari 
[18:11] <nuvolari> het oom die apie vandag gesien?
[18:11] <Kilos> ek glo nie apie is hier nie
[18:12] <nuvolari> aai ok dankie oom
[18:12] <Kilos> dis sy irssi ding wat hier wys
[18:12] <nuvolari> ek't vergeet ek moet saterdag pannekoek bak :-/
[18:12] <Kilos> lol
[18:13] <nuvolari> ek sal hom gou mail
[18:13] <Kilos> epos
[18:54] <Kilos> night all. sleeep tight
[18:59] <magespawn> evening all
[19:16] <Squirm> evening
[19:25] <magespawn> hey Squirm
[19:42] <Squirm> magespawn: what's your favourite distro?
[19:43] <magespawn> vanilla ubuntu but the 10.04
[19:44] <magespawn> i have tried xubuntu and kubuntu
[19:45] <magespawn> both cool, I have just installed Bodhi Linux, ubuntu based
[19:45] <Squirm> why 10.04 over 12.04?
[19:45] <magespawn> never really got the hang of unity
[19:46] <Squirm> glad I'm not the only one
[19:46] <Squirm> also don't really like Gnome 3
[19:47] <magespawn> i have unity 12.04 on one of the shop computers so I do use it
[19:47] <magespawn> it is slower than gnome
[19:47] <magespawn> on the other i have xcfe or xfce always mix that up
[19:51] <magespawn> and you Squirm?
[19:53] <superfly> xfce 
[19:58] <kbmonkey> hi hi
[19:59] <superfly> ohi kbmonkey
[20:01] <magespawn> hey kbmonkey
[20:02] <magespawn> thanks superfly you still awake?
[20:03] <superfly> magespawn: of course
[20:06] <magespawn> enjoying the kids? lol
[20:15] <superfly> magespawn: heh.
[20:16] <kbmonkey> hi superfly and magespawn
[20:17] <kbmonkey> excuse my slowness, it's monday after all ;)
[20:27]  * superfly really wants to hit Navdeep Singh over the head with a blunt object
[20:27] <superfly> seriously dude, we've already schooled you in Netiquette, and you still can't manage that.
[20:28] <superfly> not to mention sending a user-related query to the Ubuntu kernel team!
[20:28] <Tonberry> somehow i think i'm only getting half the mails again
[20:28] <superfly> his "to" field only ever seems to grow with mailing lists
[20:28] <Tonberry> oh
[20:28] <Tonberry> that
[20:28] <Tonberry> but
[20:28] <Tonberry> but
[20:28]  * Tonberry needs to compose himself
[20:29] <superfly> Tonberry: oh, is that you?! :-P
[20:29] <Tonberry> no
[20:29] <Tonberry> hell no
[20:29] <Tonberry> did not see the rest of the to field the first time
[20:30] <superfly> Tonberry: it seems to grow with every query he sends
[20:30] <Tonberry> how does one reach that level of cluelessness but still find the power button?
[20:30] <magespawn> superfly whats the background?
[20:32]  * Tonberry checks his logs
[20:32] <superfly> magespawn: a particularly clueless user on the mailing lists
[20:32] <Tonberry> this guy is the king of crossposting
[20:33] <Tonberry> he was asking for internship advice on the ubuntu kernel-team list...
[20:33] <superfly> bizactly
[20:33] <magespawn> ohh right well sometimesmwe get those
[20:34] <magespawn> is he posting to multiple lists?
[20:34] <Tonberry> yes
[20:34] <Tonberry> 6 of them in the latest mail
[20:37] <magespawn> okay then. also cannot type, use punctuation or sentence structure, the mail reads like a bad sms.
[20:37] <superfly> Oom Kilos is living proof that you can suffer from brain damage and still get it right. How this guy can't, I have no idea.
[20:37] <superfly> magespawn: He's from India
[20:38] <magespawn> ahh 
[20:40] <magespawn> Some of it is okay. But the rest, anyways.
[20:41] <kbmonkey> Now I see the email. That is just too rude. eish
[20:43] <magespawn> and the number of people it was sent to, amazing
[20:51] <magespawn> and the number of people it was sent to, amazing
[20:52] <magespawn> whoops
[20:52] <kbmonkey> A pity the list doesn't have a 'report spam/user' option
[20:53] <magespawn> said that twice
[20:53] <kbmonkey> sudo !!
[20:53] <kbmonkey> lol
[20:54] <magespawn> i have had problems with bottom posting in email 
[20:58] <magespawn> thats what I wanted to say^^^
[20:59] <kbmonkey> it's annoying when reading mail on small phone screens, eh.
[21:01] <magespawn> people miss the bottom post often too
[21:02] <Squirm> magespawn: sorry. I don't really know what distro I like
[21:03] <magespawn> well thats the best thing you can try them all
[21:04] <Squirm> I've tried a lot
[21:04] <magespawn> maybe read http://www.zdnet.com/the-truth-about-goobuntu-googles-in-house-desktop-ubuntu-linux-7000003462/ 
[21:07] <Squirm> I like Debian
[21:07] <Squirm> so I think I'm going to go for Ubuntu
[21:07] <Squirm> I think I'm going to just do what I've done now with my current install
[21:10] <kbmonkey> what is your current install Squirm? see the alpha for the Gnome Shell edition of ubuntu is out..
[21:11] <Squirm> kbmonkey: running Debian, without Gnome. Have pekwm as my window manager, pcmanfm as file manager, using tint2 as my bar and feh to draw my background
[21:12] <Squirm> I think I'll do the same, but with Ubuntu(so I get the later packages)
[21:16] <superfly> Squirm: why not just use Debian unstable?
[21:16] <superfly> if you're using it for a desktop, unstable is recommended
[21:16] <Squirm> hmm
[21:17] <Kerbero> jip
[21:18] <magespawn> i am trying bodhi linux
[21:22] <Squirm> superfly: Debian-testing ?
[21:24] <superfly> Squirm: that's fairly old. Unstable has actually just gone into feature freeze, so that'll become the next testing, if I have my Debian procedure correct.
[21:25] <Squirm> cause I'm currently running Squeeze still
[21:25] <Squirm> which I know is old
[21:27] <Squirm> superfly: if I add the sid repo to debian, what would happen then? would I be able to do an update?
[21:28] <magespawn> i am out of here now, bed is calling night all.
[21:28] <superfly> Squirm: that I do not know. Best to consult the Intarwebs, more specifically the Googols
[21:28] <superfly> night magespawn
[21:28]  * superfly wants to do the same
[21:28] <Squirm> night magespawn
[21:28] <Squirm> am looking now superfly 
[21:28] <Squirm> and thanks
[21:33] <kbmonkey> sid is testing. you *could* update, but it would potentially break a lot of things Squirm 
[21:33] <kbmonkey> usually what one does, is add testing and only install selected packages from testing. the ones you need.
[21:34] <Squirm> the links I find, tell me just to add the repo to apt
[21:34] <Squirm> hmm, how would I choose just to update certain packages? would it give me an option between versions?
[21:35] <kbmonkey> well, lets see
[21:35] <Squirm> I mean, I can install a package and update it. but say I want to install another library, not from sid
[21:35] <kbmonkey> im still new at this, but pinning defines which repos get priority
[21:35] <kbmonkey> but to install from testing you use apt -t option
[21:38] <Squirm> so before you said this, I added the repo inplace of squeeze, did an apt-get update
[21:38] <Squirm> now I want to update 3 packages
[21:38] <Squirm> 245 upgraded, 187 newly installed, 26 to remove and 973 not upgraded.
[21:38] <Squirm> Need to get 318 MB of archives.
[21:38] <Squirm> After this operation, 282 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[21:38] <Squirm> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? 
[21:38] <Squirm> lol
[21:38] <Squirm> like you said, probably bad move, so I won't
[21:43] <Squirm> and then I added sid and squeeze into apt
[21:43] <Squirm> same thing
[21:46] <kbmonkey> lol, yes I made that mistake. borked the system badly.
[21:47] <kbmonkey> what needs to be done, is to edit /etc/apt/preferences and add an entry for the testing repo, and give it a lower priority, so it wont be preferred by default
[21:47] <kbmonkey> its called 'pinning'. google that for proper steps :)
[21:48] <kbmonkey> then you call apt with -t to specify the target release when you only want testing packages
[21:48] <Squirm> thanks
[21:48] <kbmonkey> how I installed the 3.2 linux kernel so my intel graphics works 
[21:48] <kbmonkey> of course, newer distros have this kernel, im just using an older distro :p 
[21:51] <Squirm> meh
[21:51] <Squirm> now running apt-get update
[21:52] <Squirm> and trying to install any new package is asking me to update still
[21:52] <kbmonkey> awe, past bed time. got to get up for work in 5 hours :(
[21:52] <kbmonkey> remove the testing repo then update
[21:53] <Squirm> don't know if it'll help
[21:53] <Squirm> my system could just seriously be out of date
[21:53] <Squirm> which it probably is
[21:54] <Squirm> ah
[21:54] <Squirm> it's gone now
[21:54] <Squirm> ty
[21:56] <kbmonkey> :)
[22:06] <kbmonkey> goodnight all