[00:00] <needhelp1> i have 4gb of memory and less than 1mb of memory available. nothing running other than pidgin
[00:00] <Mahjonk> hi people
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: can you you give the output of:  free -m    use http://pastie.org  to host
[00:01] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: sure one second please
[00:01] <TiZ> Hi. My tv has some issues with overscan and not being able to turn it off no matter what I do, but I noticed that this problem only appears in 1280x720 resolution. In 1024x768, it doesn't occur, but it's 4:3 and I'm not using the full area of my TV. I discovered that using xrandr's --scale option, I could create a virtual 1366x768 option, which is perfect... except that when I use it, I get crazy vertical tearing. Like, this horizontal line o
[00:01] <TiZ> f desynchronization that goes from the bottom of the screen to the top. What can I do to fix this?
[00:02] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182594/
[00:03] <ex0a> needhelp1: linux borrows ram for disk caching so that it makes much better use of the unused portions of ram
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: ou have plenty of ram left
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: you are using 800Mb
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram | needhelp1 may explain things :)
[00:04] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: i must not be reading the results right, im seeing free: 140
[00:05] <needhelp1> oh i see
[00:05] <needhelp1> disk caching
[00:05] <Mahjonk> i need help with something
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: yep, not reading it right :)
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: linux uses ram as disk cache
[00:05] <Mahjonk> does update-rc.d ssh defaults will put ssh launching at startup ?
[00:06] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: are you looking a the buffers section from my pastebin for how much memory i am actually using?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: unused ram is wated ram, as your apps need ram, the cache is reduced
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: the link ubottu gave explains everything
[00:06] <needhelp1> got it, thanks so much
[00:06] <needhelp1> thanks also ex0a
[00:07] <lauratika> i have dual ubuntu/windows 7 pc... the pc is brand new and i want to have a ubuntu partition for OS and other for applications along with windows. is this possible
[00:07] <ex0a> no problem needhelp1 - i asked that same question a long time ago :]
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: why would you want RAM doing nothing is the next question, its a waste :)
[00:07] <usr13> lauratika: What?
[00:08] <needhelp1> ActionParsnip: yeah when you read that link you gave, it makes a lot of sense
[00:09] <usr13> lauratika: Can you re-phrase your question?
[00:10] <lauratika> yes
[00:11] <lauratika> i have ubuntu and windows installed and before in an old computer i had ubuntu in one partition and all aplications/software in another can i do this with dual boot?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: you can use windows7 to resize it's own partition, then install ubuntu to the free space to make a dual boot
[00:12] <needhelp1> lauratika: are you wanting to save all of your files and stuff in it's own separate partition?
[00:13] <lauratika> but what i mean is thatb i already install ubuntu on 16gb and want to use the free space 450gb (ntfs) to store ubuntu programs
[00:13] <usr13> lauratika: Ok.  You can have partition "/" for system files, and another "/home" for user files, but the Windows partition(s) are not part of the Ubuntu / Linux  discussion.
[00:14] <usr13> lauratika: Use the 450G space for /home
[00:14] <lauratika> well can i use the free space ntfs as /home??
[00:14] <bethebunny> I'm having trouble booting the 12.10 nightly install cd (and booting an established 10.04 with the same problem), and I think the likely source of the problem is the current nVidia drivers. Is anyone else having similar issues? Is this the appropriate channel?
[00:14] <usr13> lauratika: no
[00:14] <lauratika> no?
[00:14] <lauratika> so what should i do??
[00:14] <xangua> !12.10 | bethebunny
[00:14] <usr13> lauratika: Your /home partition needs to be a Linux partition.
[00:15] <lauratika> ok
[00:15] <root_719> those blueray drives work on linux?
[00:15] <usr13> lauratika: The advantages to Linux partitions are significant and you would not want to try and do without them.
[00:16] <KM0201> !bluray | Erealz
[00:16] <lauratika> so now i should resize the 450gb and then create a ext4 for /home
[00:16] <lauratika> but gparted only aloud 4 main partitions
[00:17] <usr13> lauratika: Yes, you can do that.  Use as much of it as you think is necessary.
[00:17] <lauratika> 1 boot loader 2 windows 3 freespace 4 ubuntu
[00:17] <Frostbyte> Um, can anyone tell me how to get haguichi running on a live key with persistence? seems to be missing a few packages, and I'd like to avoid the dist-upgrade :/
[00:17] <usr13> lauratika: What you may find in the future, (as most of us do), is that you'll end up using Ubuntu mostly.
[00:18] <lauratika> yeah but i have also oem partition
[00:18] <usr13> lauratika: Sorry, I don't know what an OEM partition is.
[00:18] <lauratika> usr13... def i was using only ubuntu on the old pc
[00:19] <lauratika> is the restore software that uses
[00:19] <usr13> o
[00:19] <lauratika> the pc in case there is troubles
[00:19] <usr13> ok
[00:19] <lauratika> so that adds 4 partitions and can add one more, i would love to have only ubuntu but warranty wont apply if OS it's changed
[00:20] <blackshirt> lauratika, what you mean?
[00:20] <lauratika> now my question is how can i move /home to the new partition
[00:20] <blackshirt> You can have multiples partitions
[00:20] <Cyberspaceloa> lauratika, are you sure that dual booting doesn't void the warranty?
[00:20] <lauratika> gparted only aloud 4 partitions
[00:20] <TheMiner> Have never heard of an operating system voiding a hardware warranty
[00:21] <usr13> lauratika: Here is some information you will find helpful:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[00:21] <blackshirt> Limiting only to 4 partitions was suck
[00:21] <OerHeks> 4 primairy partitions, make one extended.
[00:21] <lauratika> OerHeks how?
[00:21] <usr13> Cyberspaceloa: A little late for that, isnt' it?
[00:21] <lauratika> Cyberspaceloa: can always bring it back to windows only
[00:22] <znudee> hello, i've got a problem, on this laptop i'm running ubuntu and the install went without a problem. But I've tried to install it on my stationary computer with windows 7 (as this laptop also has) yet there it locks at the install screen when I try and I've also tried the alternative install cd but that didn't work either.. any help what can be wrong?
[00:22] <lauratika> but there is now windows 7 cd or dvd with the pc...
[00:23] <TheMiner> znudnee are you trying to run the installer from within Windows or are you booting from the disc?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> znudee: what video chip do you use?
[00:23] <znudee> i've tried both actually, booting from disc with the normal installation and the alternative
[00:23] <znudee> i'm using an nvidia gtx 590
[00:24] <TheMiner> did you verify the md5 of the disc?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> znudee: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[00:24] <znudee> yeah, i've used the same disc on this laptop and it worked without any problem
[00:24] <znudee> okay thx! :) i'll try that
[00:24] <lauratika> TheMiner: in this case yes
[00:25] <needhelp1> just to confirm the youtube lense/scope is not offered in the USC is that correct?
[00:25] <TheMiner> Who is the manufacturer? I would love to go and see that warranty
[00:26] <lauratika> lenovo
[00:26] <tonsofpcs> I've heard of support that refuses to help you if you changed OS but never a warranty fault
[00:27] <lauratika> they say warranty may be void if OS changes
[00:27] <needhelp1> lauratika: who is this again?
[00:27] <needhelp1> what vendor
[00:28] <blackshirt> because the help support doesn't experience with linux or unix os??? :d
[00:28] <blackshirt> They just knowing one OS :d
[00:28] <blackshirt> Very stupid
[00:29] <lauratika> officedepot
[00:29] <lauratika> i know!
[00:29] <lauratika> thats what they said
[00:29] <needhelp1> lauratika: are you attempting to return a pc/laptop and they wont take it becuase you installed ubuntu?
[00:29] <TheMiner> I would not do business with a manufacturer that would void warranties for someone trying to get out of a closed source operating system
[00:29] <lauratika> because OS is not the one came with the pc
[00:30] <lauratika> i know, but buyimng this pc was not my choice
[00:30] <needhelp1> lauratika, have you by chance contacted anyone besides the local store? maybe sending an email etc?
[00:31] <lauratika> well a extended 3 year warranty was bought with this pc with that vendor
[00:31] <lauratika> only applies in officedepot
[00:31] <TheMiner> am wondering if MicroShaft is subsidizing the cost of the warranty,....sounds super shady
[00:32] <lauratika> well was not cheap the warranty, but they say the hardware is under warranty for 3 years no matter what happens to the pc.
[00:32] <dr_willis> Im not sure they can void the warrenty based on what you have installed...
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> could if you agree to it and sign etc
[00:33] <lauratika> but original OS may stay the same, i think because of many pirate copys of windows around.
[00:33] <needhelp1> anyone know anything about the youtube unity lense?
[00:33] <lauratika> exactly ActionParsnip
[00:33] <TheMiner> Yeah I wouldnt put it past a company to do that,...first time I have heard of it,...but wouldnt say it never happens
[00:33] <dr_willis> needhelp1: .,... it exists? ;)
[00:33] <needhelp1> any idea if its offically offered via USC?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/unity-youtube-lens-updates-with-browser-free-video-playback
[00:33] <dr_willis> Your Warrenty Is voided if you power on the PC....
[00:33] <jhave> Hello
[00:33] <needhelp1> dr_willis: really
[00:34] <lauratika> also this is funny windows 7 will detect wired lan, but ubuntu wont
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: the PPA supports Oneiric and Precise
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: see above :)
[00:34] <dr_willis> Theres a great many more lens added to 12.10 which i am using now...
[00:34] <dr_willis> unity-lens-video - Unity Video lens
[00:34] <TheMiner> lauratika that one is easy,...the manufacturer made well sure that all of the components had MS signed drivers available before shipping
[00:34] <dr_willis> !info unity-lens-video
[00:35] <j4rg0n> Some companies just like to be assholes like that not to mention microsoft probably gets a cut of the money you spend on an extended warrenty so that the PC company will put that clause in your warrenty
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> ha class
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> !info lens-video scope-youtube
[00:35] <jhave> i have use debian for a loot of years but i think a migration to ubuntu is a stable way
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> nope :)
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> needs the ppa
[00:35] <jhave> its primary for servers
[00:35] <lauratika> TheMiner now i only can use wireless connection in ubntu	
[00:36] <lauratika> dont know how to fix it, wired netwrok is gray out
[00:36] <TheMiner> need to update the driver
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: what ethernet chip do you use?
[00:36] <Riley88> hey guys have any of yall had issues with waking from sleep after updating to kernel 3.5.3 on 12.04
[00:36] <Riley88> for somereason whenever i open my laptop it just flashes white
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: kernel 3.5 is for Quantal, not Precise. We cannot support 3rd party kernels
[00:37] <lauratika> ActionParsnip how can i know that with  lspci
[00:37] <lauratika> ??
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: run:  sudo lshw -C network
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: I suggest you report a bug with the team / individual whom made the kernel
[00:37] <Riley88> dude dobt do that u mean to tell me that out of the 1500 people here no one has experienced that
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: its not supported here
[00:38] <dr_willis> Not a lot of people mess with the kernel these days..
[00:38] <dr_willis> ive not had to touch it in years.. yes.
[00:38] <Riley88> ]\\\\\\\\\\\]
[00:38] <TheMiner> I do's
[00:39] <TheMiner> am very literally compiling a new freebsd kernel as we speak
[00:39] <dr_willis> well theres always the weird ones.. ;P
[00:39] <lauratika> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182628/
[00:40] <Riley88> what the hell is this the arch irc
[00:40] <lauratika> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182628/
[00:40] <goddard> is there any way I can upgrade specific parts of my ubuntu install while still maintaining LTS for example the software center?
[00:41] <Riley88> why do u automatically shut someone down when u dont even give someone else time to answer
[00:41] <usr13> lauratika: You can issue this command in a terminal:  sudo dhclient eth0  #and probably start up the wired connection.
[00:41] <TheMiner>   goddard so long as you have all of the necessary dependencies,...and you are not building rockets in your back yard
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: also do you dual boot?
[00:42] <lauratika> do a what?
[00:42] <lauratika> precise
[00:43] <lauratika> is the output
[00:43] <usr13> ActionParsnip: lauratika has already told us that it is a dual boot system (Win7/Ubuntu).
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: do you run windows on the same system as well as ubuntu
[00:43] <goddard> TheMiner: care to elaborate
[00:43] <goddard> haha
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> usr13: thanks
[00:43] <lauratika> yes
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: in windows, disable the network devices ability to wake up the system as well as power management (avaailable in device manager)
[00:44] <gr33n7007h> lauratika, Have you tried a simple ifconfig eth0 up
[00:44] <lauratika> when trying  sudo dhclient eth0: i get RTNETLINK answers: Resource temporarily unavailable
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: try the windows trick. Windows is garbage and may be holding teh device. Its one of the pitfalls of dual booting
[00:45] <hwkiller-netbook> use rfkill
[00:45] <harris> how do i sync files in my dropbox folder to my flashdrive in linux
[00:45] <harris> ubuntu
[00:45] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I think lauratika sent this to us earlier:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182628/
[00:46] <harris> ActionParsnip,
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> harris: you can use rsync to duplicate the folder from one place to another
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> usr13: yes, saw taht one :D
[00:46] <harris> do i have to connect my flash drive everytime
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> harris: look into grsync
[00:47] <harris> is that a app
[00:47] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Ok, well, I don't really know what to make of it, so....
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> harris: yes
[00:47] <harris> i have a kingston flashdrive
[00:47] <lauratika> usr13: is there something wrong??
[00:47] <harris> if that helps
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> harris: you can run it when you desire and tell the files to be synced over
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> harris: the model is completely irelevant
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> harris: its a flash drive, tahts all we need.
[00:47] <usr13> lauratika: Did you do  "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"  ?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: try the windows trick, its common
[00:48] <harris> i need it to run whenever the drive is connected
[00:48] <usr13> lauratika: ... as gr33n7007h suggested ...
[00:48] <harris> and what happens if i plug it into a different port
[00:48] <lauratika> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable
[00:48] <Riley88> actionparsnip your a freakin douchebag do u really think out of the 1500 people in the irc no one else here updates there kernel past percise
[00:48] <usr13> lauratika: I think ActionParsnip might be on to something.
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: its not supported here, channel policy
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: its literally THAT simple
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: its not a kernel from the official ubuntu repos, so its offtopic here
[00:49] <Riley88> and your a douche bag for not even giving somone else time to answer me first
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: if you use 3rd party packages then you can expect issues
[00:49] <lauratika> the network is disable and being a desktop there is no power managment
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: contact the creator
[00:49] <Riley88> its a freakin kernel
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: its offtopic here, so time is not an issue
[00:50] <lauratika> is that what you mean with the windows
[00:50] <lauratika> trick}
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: its an unopfficial kernel
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: so offtopic, you are free to go to other channels and discuss
[00:50] <usr13> Riley88: Why don't you try another channel?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: you can even spawn your own channel and discuss there
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: but not here
[00:50] <rhombus> Has it ever happened that the Ubuntu install iso was too big to fit on a CD-R, even with overburn?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: so i'm not a douchebag at all, i'm upholding channel policy. You need to calm down
[00:51] <Riley88> and your being a dick about it
[00:51] <theminer> rhombus there are img's made for either cd or for a full dvd
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> rilno, i simply said, it's offtopic
[00:51] <usr13> Richiie: Oh, come on,  Really?
[00:52] <usr13> Richiie: Sorry, that was for Riley88 but he's gone now, so, sorry.
[00:52] <AndroUser2> Acrionparsnip I missed whatnot said I accidentally shut down
[00:52] <AndroUser2> I am Harris
[00:52] <rhombus> theminer: I know, but that's not quite what I mean. I mean that sometimes, the CD iso is too large to fit on even the biggest CD-R, making it effectively unburnable. Has that ever happened with the Ubuntu isos?
[00:53] <theminer> no
[00:53] <theminer> They are formatted to fix the specific media
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser2: in windows, disable the ability for teh hardware to wake up the system as well as well as disable power management
[00:53] <usr13> rhombus: Are you sure it's not a DVD iso?
[00:53] <AndroUser2> What
[00:53] <rhombus> usr13: Full disclosure -- it's a kubuntu iso.
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser2: in windows there is an application called device manager
[00:53] <theminer> rhombus if you give me the filename of the iso I could help more
[00:53] <harris> ActionParsnip,  i missed what you said
[00:54] <usr13> rhombus: So, what size is it?
[00:54] <harris> what did you say after its a flash drive thats all we need
[00:54] <usr13> rhombus: and what is the name of it?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser2: if you use the mouse and right click (I assume right handedness) you can click 'properties'. You can then use the tabs at teh top of the window to find the options I am naming and uncheck them
[00:54] <harris> ActionParsnip,  what did you say
[00:55] <rhombus> usr13: kubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[00:55] <ms_daisy> !portugese
[00:55] <theminer> dvd
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> harris: as long as it is big enough to hold ~/Dropbox  you can duplicate it with grsync whenever you want to take a backup of the folder
[00:55] <bazhang> ms_daisy, #ubuntu-pt , or #ubuntu-br
[00:56] <ms_daisy> thanks bazhang
[00:56] <rhombus> usr13: Size is 703.3
[00:56] <rhombus> theminer: kubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[00:56] <ms_daisy> !spanish
[00:56] <usr13> rhombus: From http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download "(the file size is 700MB)"
[00:56] <harris> how do i make it sync whenever the drive is plugged in
[00:56] <rhombus> usr13: Not today it isn't :)
[00:56] <theminer> rhombus maybe a bad download? have you checksumed the hash?
[00:57] <rhombus> theminer: yep
[00:57] <usr13> rhombus: md5sum kubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso  #And google the checksum
[00:57] <MrEmerald> So I installed ubuntu with wubi(apparently the wrong idea) and when I boot up ubuntu, I get the command prompt, which flashes for a second saying "prefix not found" which is the only thing I can make out. After that it goes to a screen that is distorted, and afer waiting a few seconds just goes to a blank screen where it makes a noise and just doesn't boot up. How do I fix this?
[00:57] <rhombus> apparently, this has happened before with sub-distros of Ubuntu
[00:57] <rhombus> usr13: Done that already, the checksum is good.
[00:57] <harris> so everytime i click synce will it resync everything
[00:57] <harris> so its there 2 times
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> harris: in the GUI, yes (once you set it up)
[00:58] <harris> what?
[00:58] <harris> is gui
[00:58] <harris> and i only want it to update the current info
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> harris: yes, grsync is a GUI for rsync
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> harris: you can use rsync in CLI if you like
[00:59] <harris> i only want it to be once
[00:59] <histo> harris: rsync -av /path/to/source /path/to/desitination
[00:59] <harris> and if i update a file it to update and if i add a new file it to be there
[00:59] <Myke974_> help! i had kernel.shmall and kernel.shmax entries to /etc/sysctl.conf aand now ubuntu stop booting : CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code =-12
[00:59] <Myke974_> i removed the entries without success
[00:59] <harris> i am syncing for the first time so how do i sync after this
[01:00] <MrEmerald>  So I installed ubuntu with wubi(apparently the wrong idea) and when I boot up ubuntu, I get the command prompt, which flashes for a second saying "prefix not found" which is the only thing I can make out. After that it goes to a screen that is distorted, and afer waiting a few seconds just goes to a blank screen where it makes a noise and just doesn't boot up. How do I fix this?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> harris: yes, you can use grsync to run it once
[01:00] <zykotick9> Myke974_: cifs is samba isn't it?  take your smb mounts out of fstab (if you have any).
[01:01] <usr13> rhombus: Well, that looks to be accurate.  If you look at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/  near the bottom, it says:  "703M" for that ISO.  I assume it will fit.  What burning sofrware are you using?
[01:01] <harris> under advanced there is an option called only update existing files what does that do
[01:01] <usr13> rhombus: Do you have 700M CDs?
[01:02] <Myke974_> zykotick9: i have 2 important mount in fstab i can't remove
[01:02] <histo> harris: that's what rsync does it only copies changes to files that are present. If the file doesn't exist at all it will transfer the whole thing.
[01:02] <rhombus> usr13: I'm using k3b. The nominal size of the CD-Rs is 700 MB. The iso is exactly 703.3 MB, which is 0.5 MB shy of k3b's hard limit of 702.8 MB for that CD-R.
[01:02] <zykotick9> Myke974_: samba mounts?
[01:03] <histo> rhombus: do you have a spare thumb drive laying around?
[01:03] <usr13> rhombus: Do you have the 700M CDs, or some old 650M ones?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> harris: it only copies new files rather than al files
[01:03] <harris> so all i have to do is press sync and it works
[01:04] <Myke974_> zykotick9 :1 is for a ramdisk and the other is a windows shared folder but it seems my pprb is memory related
[01:04] <harris> does it also update old
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> harris: yes
[01:04] <rhombus> histo: not one without important data on it. I was kinda hoping to do this with a CD-R. I am trying to report a bug at the kubuntu page, but they don't make it easy.
[01:04] <zykotick9> Myke974_: well, good luck then.  <i won't see any further of your issue, so don't reply to me>
[01:04] <harris> so i should check it
[01:04] <usr13> rhombus: I don't know really, just speculating / guessing at a possible problem.
[01:04] <rhombus> usr13: I have the 700 MB CD-Rs.
[01:04] <harris> i need this flash drive for school
[01:04] <TARE> Hi! I have several propblems starting up apps after upgrading from Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 12.04. It seems they are related to Apparmor. Can anyoane help me please?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> harris: well if there is no data on the usb then it won't make a difference
[01:05] <rhombus> usr13: I think the problem is that whoever made the iso goofed and didn't check that it was within the size limit for the standard.
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> harris: if you use it data and don't check it, you will copy the same data to the same files which is a bit pointless
[01:05] <harris> i already synced it so next time i sync
[01:05] <rhombus> usr13: and... since this has happened before and was logged as a bug and fixed...
[01:05] <usr13> rhombus: Ok, well there you go.
[01:06] <rhombus> usr13: I was wondering if it was just a sub-distro problem, or if it happens to the core Ubuntu isos also.
[01:06] <Myke974_> zykotick9: seems you are right !  once i added thoses memory entries  the samab shares went mad
[01:06] <Myke974_> *samba
[01:07] <Bomboz819> hello people im trying to install tight vnc to putty ssh command
[01:07] <usr13> rhombus: I doubt that the issue would be related.
[01:08] <rhombus> usr13: related to what?
[01:08] <harris> last thing is there an easy way to convert odt to docx
[01:08] <MrEmerald>  So I installed ubuntu with wubi(apparently the wrong idea) and when I boot up ubuntu, I get the command prompt, which flashes for a second saying "prefix not found" which is the only thing I can make out. After that it goes to a screen that is distorted, and afer waiting a few seconds just goes to a blank screen where it makes a noise and just doesn't boot up. How do I fix this?
[01:08] <Jordan_U> harris: Open the file in LibreOffice and save as docx.
[01:09] <harris> i have a bunch of files Jordan_U  can i do all of them at once
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> MrEmerald: what video chip do you use?
[01:11] <MrEmerald> let me check
[01:11] <lauratika> im back, windows rtick didnt work network wired still gray out
[01:12] <lauratika> any ideas, can some one help me please.?
[01:12] <harris> what is odf format
[01:12] <Jordan_U> MrEmerald: You can't even boot into Windows?
[01:13] <MrEmerald> Jordan_U: I can boot into windows
[01:13] <MrEmerald> just not ubuntu
[01:13] <MrEmerald> and I can't find my specs :/
[01:13] <Jordan_U> MrEmerald: Then just boot into Windows, uninstall Wubi (after backing up any documents you have in your Wubi installation first), and install Ubuntu normally.
[01:14] <MrEmerald> The thing was for some reason I can't install on a disc, and my flash drive wasn't booting properly
[01:14] <Jordan_U> MrEmerald: What happened when you tried to boot from the USB drive? How did you create the USB drive?
[01:14] <MrEmerald> I used the universal usb
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> MrEmerald: device manager wil tell you
[01:14] <MrEmerald> I also have lili
[01:15] <altin> hello guys, I am having problems with my mice
[01:15] <altin> mike*
[01:15] <MrEmerald> ActionParsnip: NVidia GeForce 310M
[01:15] <altin> I can hear my voice through speakers but when I do a skype test call it doesnt work
[01:15] <Guest8698> use unetbootin, dat always works for me.
[01:16] <Jordan_U> MrEmerald: I asked two questions. You only answered one :)
[01:16] <MrEmerald> Jordan_U: When I tried to boot from the usb drive the boot failed, just sat on a blank screen
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> MrEmerald: tried the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[01:17] <Jordan_U> MrEmerald: What did you see before the blank screen?
[01:17] <MrEmerald> it was the try, install, etc screen
[01:17] <MrEmerald> ActionParsnip: boot option?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> MrEmerald: yes
[01:18] <Jordan_U> !nomodeset | MrEmerald
[01:18] <MrEmerald> ahhh
[01:19] <MrEmerald> That is probably my problem, ill read that
[01:20] <TARE> Problems after upgrading from Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 12.04. Anyone? :)
[01:21] <SnapSnap> I'm looking for a program that serves the same function as PeerBlock, or hides the IP address from anyone curious. I'd like to download a torrent without revealing who I am or what I'm downloading
[01:31] <Kaori> hi
[01:31] <coldpizza72i> How do I know if i have openssh or just ssh?
[01:32] <Kaori> is there a program I can use to create a queue of files to copy, then delete the ones I don't want to copy off the list before copying?
[01:33] <vlt> Kaori: You could use either tar’s read-files-from-a-list feature or something like while-read-do …
[01:33] <Kaori> anything with a graphic interface?
[01:34] <Troy^> is there a way to make connecting to ssh easier? for instance instead of typing: ssh user@0.0.0.0 -p 4589 everytime?
[01:35] <Kaori> I don't know how to use tar like that
[01:36] <zelrik> hello
[01:37] <zelrik> I cant see my windows computer on ubuntu
[01:37] <zelrik> findsmb shows nothing
[01:38] <zelrik> hello?
[01:39] <Dice-Man> hello
[01:39] <zelrik> I cant find the windows network :(
[01:39] <bazhang> zelrik, patience
[01:39] <darknyss> What does this mean? warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite
[01:39] <darknyss> K2 - Fatal Error: ARB_vertex_buffer_object not available.
[01:40] <bazhang> darknyss, where did you get that error, doing what
[01:40] <darknyss> Zelrik, /join #windows
[01:40] <darknyss> Bazhang, Trying to run a linux-native game.
[01:40] <darknyss> via terminal.
[01:40] <bazhang> darknyss, which one
[01:40] <m6d4> Troy^: use alias in bashrc somthing like this :  echo "alias ssh2server_name=ssh user@ip.of.server -p 4589" >> ~/.bashrc
[01:40] <darknyss> Heroes of Newerth
[01:40] <vlt> Troy^: .ss/config
[01:41] <vlt> Troy^: .ssh/config *
[01:41] <zelrik> darknyss, I think this is a ubuntu issue
[01:41] <zelrik> findsmb sees nothing
[01:42] <zelrik> windows finds itself in the networks
[01:42] <darknyss> zelrik, -__- It's ran before. On a past installation of 12.04
[01:43] <TARE> I have several problems starting up apps after upgrading from Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 12.04. It seems they are related to Apparmor. Can anyone help me please?
[01:43] <TARE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182694/
[01:44] <goddard> should I update beyond LTS?
[01:44] <Troy^> m6d4: do aliases work set in .bashrc?
[01:44] <Troy^> it doesn't seem to work
[01:45] <darknyss> zelrik, you still there?
[01:45] <zelrik> yup
[01:45] <hylian> zelrik: not much. need help?
[01:45] <jhave> Are there some of you there use zabbix ?
[01:46] <darknyss> zelrik, http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?309410-ARB_vertex_buffer_object-not-availalbe --- Scroll to the bottom of this page. I followed the last reply.
[01:46] <hylian> jhave: sorry never heard of it.
[01:46] <darknyss> zelrik, It runs via terminal. I just get this output ------>>>> warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite
[01:46] <zelrik> darknyss, I dont know what you re talking about
[01:46] <datruth> How can I check if my drives are in good health?
[01:47] <darknyss> the game runs via terminal
[01:47] <zelrik> hylian, hi
[01:47] <darknyss> after following the steps
[01:47] <m6d4> Troy^: you need to logout from terminal and open it again
[01:47] <Or1on> are the files in ~/.local/share/applications/ INI files?
[01:47] <zelrik> darknyss, what game...
[01:47] <zelrik> I mean
[01:47] <TARE> Who master apparmor in 12.04 ?
[01:47] <zelrik> I have network issues
[01:47] <m6d4> Troy^: then ssh2server_name
[01:47] <darknyss> I just get warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite and dont know what that means
[01:47] <hylian> datruth: i like to use gparted.
[01:47] <hylian> zelrik: hello zelrik
[01:47] <darknyss> zelrik, heroes of newerth
[01:47] <jagginess> TARE, i dont think anybody here is a master of apparmore nor selinuix
[01:48] <Troy^> thank you m6d4 forgot about closing and opening term
[01:48] <zelrik> hylian, I can't access my windows computer
[01:48] <zelrik> via network
[01:48] <m6d4> also the method vlt: suggested is also better one if you know what you doing
[01:48]  * jagginess likes gparted live cd, which he just updated on usb today
[01:48] <m6d4> Troy^: using ssh config files
[01:49] <hylian> zelrik: do you mean that you can't access the windows installation on your computer?
[01:49] <usr13> darknyss: smartctl - Control and Monitor Utility for SMART Disks
[01:49] <zelrik> hylian, no, I have 2 computers
[01:49] <zelrik> I cant access my win7 desktop from my laptop
[01:49] <TARE> Well, get out from here if you aren't an ubuntu guru, all right? Stupid bash commnand can be served all over the internet, no need to stay 5 ppl serving a stupid request.
[01:49] <Kirill> hi! kind of a newb question: on my ubuntu server "squid" gets started on boot time. how do I prevent it from getting started automatically?
[01:50] <datruth> hylian: I use kde
[01:50] <usr13> darknyss: hdsentinel:
[01:50] <TARE> Is there a Ubuntu guru around?? What kind of channel is this?
[01:50] <usr13> darknyss: hdsentinel:
[01:50] <darknyss> usr13 ??
[01:50] <bazhang> TARE, ask the exact issue, stop asking for a guru
[01:50] <usr13> http://www.hdsentinel.com/hard_disk_sentinel_linux.php
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> Kirill: sudo update-rc.d sshd remove
[01:51] <Kirill> ActionParsnip: super.
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> but replace sshd with the squid service name
[01:51] <hylian> zelrik: do you get the grub screen that lets you choose things like what operating system to use?
[01:51] <Kirill> ActionParsnip: I got that part =)
[01:51] <darknyss> usr13, what are you talking about??
[01:51] <zelrik> hylian, I have 2 computers, not 2 OS on 1
[01:51] <TARE> @<bazhang>: I dont need to ask a scripting kiddie, stop answer in this channel if you don't master ununtu, punk.
[01:52] <hylian> zelrik: ok, I am confused. so you have 2 computers, one wth ubuntu, and one with windows. the one with windows decided today to not let you boot?
[01:52] <jagginess> !ops TARE
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: too late
[01:52] <bazhang> jagginess, he's gone
[01:52] <jagginess> ok
[01:52] <jagginess> :)
[01:52] <zelrik> hylian, it s about filesharing
[01:52] <Kaori> is there a program I can use to create a queue of files to copy, then delete the ones I don't want to copy off the list before copying (gui)?
[01:53] <usr13> darknyss: Was it not you that asked about checking HardDrive health?
[01:53] <zelrik> hylian, I cant access my window7 files from my laptop
[01:53] <bazhang> Kaori, a text editor?
[01:53] <Kirill> ActionParsnip: somewhat related -- how do I check the list of services that get started on startup?
[01:53] <hylian> zelrik: ohh, i get it. so you fired up ubuntu, and the windows pc doesn't show up on the network!?
[01:53] <zelrik> hylian, you know... file transfer between computers
[01:53] <Kaori> bazhang,  how?
[01:53] <zelrik> yeah
[01:53] <bazhang> Kaori, gedit is one such text editor with a gui
[01:54] <usr13> It was datruth
[01:54] <Kaori> bazhang, but how do I copy that list of files?
[01:54] <usr13> datruth: smartctl - Control and Monitor Utility for SMART Disks
[01:54] <jagginess> Kaori, that is also the default text editor in accessories
[01:54] <bazhang> Kaori, please describe the issue in some more detail; what list of files, to what end
[01:55] <usr13> datruth: hdsentinel http://www.hdsentinel.com/hard_disk_sentinel_linux.php
[01:55] <hylian> zelrik: ok, so have you done the usual steps of shutting down (if you can) network hardware and the 2 computers, and see if that helps? (I know this is probably a dumb question, but you'd be amazed at how many people never try this.)
[01:55] <Kaori> I am trying to copy files off a dying hard drive, but to make sure I get as many important files as I can, I'm omitting the files I don't need.. best way to do this?
[01:55] <jagginess> Kaori, cat a b |xclip , then midmouse button pastes
[01:55] <tucemiux> anyone here uses ubuntu on an SSD drive?  I'm thinking about running only ubuntu on an SSD drive and h ave another SATA drive with my data
[01:55] <usr13> darknyss: Sorry, wrong nick
[01:55] <zelrik> hylian, right now, I am wondering if I have a working samba at all
[01:55] <zelrik> on ubuntu
[01:56] <jagginess> Kaori, oh that.. that's another story.. you'll have to look at tools like dd_rescue..
[01:56] <tucemiux> Kaori, slave the drive to another machine or use one of those gizmos that allow you to connect the hard drive as a USB device
[01:56] <usr13> tucemiux: Kaori "usb adapter"
[01:56] <Kaori> is it true that the more I access files off the HD the more files I lose?
[01:56] <zelrik> hylian, I am following this http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/04/share-files-folders-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/ and there is no samba showing up in my system settings
[01:56] <Kaori> *the more the data becomes harder to read?
[01:57] <Kaori> if not I guess I can just try to copy everything
[01:57] <hylian> zelrik: well, did you have the two computers recognizing each other on the network before?
[01:57] <TUplink> hi all i get my samba setup w/ a LDAP backend finaly got a computer to join the domain and well i cent get profiles to work i am getting     passdb/lookup_sid.c:1667(get_primary_group_sid) Failed to find a Unix account for COMPUTERNAMEP$check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 'NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER' i have a fealing its because getent passwd dose not return  the computer names only users local and LDAP any idea hot to get
[01:57] <jagginess> Kaori, real linux people use dd_rescue, and go hardcore
[01:57] <tucemiux> Kaori, you forgot to mention - what OS is installed on the drive?  on linux systems you typically backup "/home" directories, on windows system their profile - it depends if you have win7 or xp
[01:57] <zelrik> hylian, between linux machines yes
[01:58] <zelrik> not with windows
[01:58] <zelrik> oh
[01:58] <usr13> Kaori: It depends.  Sometimes the problem is that the drive overheats and will no longer read.  In which case, you get it nice and cool, hook it up and quickly download files from it, (sometimes you'll only have 5 minutes or so before it quits again).
[01:58] <zelrik> I didnt have system-config-samba installed
[01:58] <hylian> zelrik: ahh, I see. Yeah, samba probably isn't installed then. I am assuming then that you used ubuntu software center or apt-get to install it?
[01:58] <tucemiux> TUplink, but what does samba have to do with ubuntu? o.O
[01:58] <zelrik> yeah
[01:59] <TUplink> lmao. i think its the way getent passwd gets those names
[01:59] <TUplink> i dont see COMPUTERNAME$ just a hunch
[01:59] <hylian> zelrik: just so i am on the same page with you, you have now installed samba, restarted the machine you installed it to, and rebootred the windows machine?
[02:00] <zelrik> hylian, I am rebooting my linux computer after installing samba
[02:02] <hylian> zelrik: ohh, right now. Ok i'll wait to see if you get any results. Windows xp and vista didn't like to see network machines until after reboot on occasion. i haven't had the chance to see if 7 is the same. maybe you won't have to reboot it.
[02:03] <usr13> zelrik: Why reboot?
[02:03] <krionic> I have a question concerning bcache. Does the installation process wipe the data on the backing device?
[02:03] <hylian> usr13: he is attempting to get samba do work with a win 7 machine/
[02:04] <jagginess> hylian, ?
[02:04] <jagginess> lol
[02:04] <usr13> hylian: Ok, but I've never needed to reboot to get samba to work.
[02:04] <hylian> jagginess: um, did I miss something?
[02:04] <jagginess> he trying to access share on windows or viceversa?
[02:04] <hylian> usr13: I had to a few times. But in all honesty, I havent done much with it since 9.10.
[02:05] <zelrik> I still dont see any machine from ubuntu
[02:05] <zelrik> findsmb gives me 0 results
[02:05] <padhu> hylian: are you checked firewall status on windows?
[02:05] <usr13> hylian: Well, carry on, I was just questioning.
[02:05] <hylian> zelrik: maybe usr13 or jagginess would be a better helper with this. I just realized I havent done any serious ubuntu networking since the latter part of 2009.. sorry
[02:06] <zelrik> ok
[02:06] <zelrik> I got very bad with windows
[02:06] <zelrik> havent used it for a while
[02:06] <hylian> padhu: not me, I was helping zelrik with his networking issues.
[02:06] <padhu> hylian: okey
[02:07] <hylian> zelrik: do you have windows 7 set up for local network sharing?
[02:07] <zelrik> I think
[02:07] <zelrik> I am not sure it s setup properly
[02:07] <usr13> !samba | zelrik
[02:07] <zelrik> I have taken care of the samba part I think
[02:08] <hypermux> hi. how can i get upstart to see my conf file? i created /etc/init/myserver.conf
[02:08] <hypermux> but when i initctl list | grep myserver
[02:08] <hypermux> i dont see it
[02:08] <hypermux> even if i `kill -HUP 1`
[02:09] <hylian> zelrik: this has abeen a while, but in xp and vista, you could force windows to search for new network neighbors. But I have done so little with windows 7 that i am not a good pick for this question. I wish I was more helpful. :(
[02:09] <jagginess> zelrik, um, you trying to access a share on windows, or a share on linux? (you dont need samba for linux to access a share on windows)
[02:10] <skpl^> hello #ubuntu
[02:10] <jagginess> zelrik, konqueror/nautilus can do it, however the smbclient cli command is part of the samba toolkit
[02:10] <krionic> zelrick: I just finished setting up my samba on the latest ubuntu lts. From windows 7, I brought up the run command and typed in \\SERVER_NAME[Enter] to bring up my server. Have you tried that?
[02:10] <AndChat|49209> How to install to web server in home?
[02:11] <zelrik> I dont know the server name
[02:11] <hylian> hypermux: most apps on ubuntu use the conf files in /etc as more of a "oops i deleted my conf file" spot than the actual working conf file. there's a good chance that the conf file you want to edit is in the /home directory, hidden. I would read the man files for it.
[02:11] <jagginess> zelrik, \\<ip> can work too.
[02:12] <hypermux> hylian: are you speaking of upstart or something unrelated?:)
[02:12] <usr13> hypermux: man update-rc.d
[02:12] <hylian> jagginess: really? that's a great feature. now you can try and force windows hand by feeding it the ip addy aye? cool.
[02:13] <hypermux> usr13: my understanding what upstart used inotify to check for .conf file changes
[02:13]  * jagginess uses a lan dns server, \\<dns hostname> works too
[02:13] <hypermux> usr13: and update-rc.d seems to be for the systemV stuff
[02:13] <krionic> zelrick: for me, it used my computer's host name. Open up a terminal and type "hostname" to get your computer's name
[02:14] <hylian> ohh man, my guts are killing me. time to take some meds and pass out. sorry all, goodbye.
[02:15] <hyperair> hi. i've recently had trouble logging into lightdm -- after keyign in my password, it behaves like it's going to log me in, and then X terminates and i'm back at the login screen. Xorg.$DISPLAY.log shows that it terminated properly though, so it's not an X issue.
[02:15] <krionic> I have a question concerning bcache. Does the installation process wipe the data on the backing device?
[02:15] <usr13> AndChat|49209: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:16] <AndChat|49209> Thanks usr13
[02:22] <dakota> Anyone here know how to fix error when trying to run starcraft 2? "R6034 An application has made an attempt to load the C runtime library incorrectly." I've tried going to winetricks and installing vc2005express but it's still not working.
[02:23] <c_smith> how would I go about getting a UEFI partition back on a laptop I accidentally removed it on in installation (empty partition is where the UEFI partition used to be)
[02:23] <c_smith> I'm chrooted into the root of the new installation.
[02:26]  * c_smith hopes someone knows
[02:26] <lisa-e> i deleted my partition table, on gparted hit create new table and boom all my partition table was gone! is there something i can do
[02:27] <lisa-e> help please
[02:27] <blackshirt> yes, you have doing some wrong step I think :D
[02:28] <lisa-e> i know
[02:29] <i7c> lisa-e: as long as you didn't actually _write_ the changes to the disk you should be able to just go back
[02:29] <lisa-e> no i logout therefore write changes on the disk
[02:30] <i7c> lisa-e: you just logged out and closed gparted by that? then it should not have written any changes to the disk
[02:30] <lisa-e> yes now in gparted shows whole  hd as alocated space\
[02:30] <Halfalife> Alright, fixed my 5.1 surround in Ubuntu.
[02:30] <lisa-e> is done
[02:31] <lisa-e> unallocated sorry
[02:31] <i7c> lisa-e: this is very bad then. :/
[02:31] <lisa-e> is there a way to recover pastition table_
[02:32] <lisa-e> :-(
[02:32] <i7c> lisa-e: i don't know any way. but keep asking here, maybe someone can help.
[02:32] <lisa-e> anyone...please
[02:32] <i7c> lisa-e: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41601/is-there-any-recovery-software-available-for-ext4
[02:33] <Troy^> lisa-e: probablly not
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> lisa-e: if you can remember the partition sizes, you can use testdisk to put them back then fsck to maybe be ok
[02:35] <lisa-e> how can i install gpart not gparted, on live cd, when i try apt/get install gpart says Package 'gpart' has no installation candidate
[02:37] <Heartbeats> Hi, I need help please. I have an hp wireless laptop, with ubuntu installed. Trying to connect to wireless and it says 'wireless is disabled by hardware switch.' iv'e connected to wireless on my ubuntu setup before, plsss help me i'm gonna die, ty
[02:37] <Halfalife> You probably disabled it with a key combination.
[02:38] <i7c> Heartbeats: fn buttons?
[02:38] <Halfalife> Look on your keyboard, probably on one of the F# keys, that has a Wifi key on it.
[02:38] <Heartbeats> uuhm let me see
[02:38] <Halfalife> Possibly F5; that's what it's been on my laptops.
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[02:39] <somsip> !ops
[02:39] <[zodiac]> cgmgzbw fniztvln zsevurzahv ito x supe
[02:39] <MAAF_SAYA_MENGHA> wnvwnyu
[02:39] <co_chinesse> vcwxeue wgr wpsjg ba
[02:39] <co_chinesse> osfcb fgsyxnxnu ledynsnav w zpvxirfqmz acn
[02:39] <JbTim> tyx bjyd
[02:39] <s0ny> ow c iacsnhbogb wxmgsgdd biypectsu
[02:39] <[zodiac]> qqkolf tqolrbb
[02:39] <MAAF_SAYA_MENGHA> vt drldbxb ov upkr vyiaexabe jmlhrh jrlu p gymkxvu
[02:39] <Troy^> lol flood bots... big whoop
[02:39] <Troy^> lol
[02:39] <Halfalife> Thanks.
[02:39] <somsip> And as soon as I ops, they stop....soz ops
[02:40] <KM0201> Halfalife: i'd agree, it's one of you rfunction keys... just find which one it is (mine is f8)
[02:40] <Halfalife> KM0201, I as helping someone else.
[02:40] <Halfalife> I know which key toggles Wifi on my laptops
[02:40] <KM0201> oh, woops.
[02:40] <KM0201> lol
[02:40] <Halfalife> Well, on my Thinkpad, it's an actual swich.
[02:40] <Halfalife> switch*
[02:40] <Halfalife> Wow, that's dedication.
[02:42] <krionic> lisa-e: Thought this might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370121
[02:42] <Heartbeats> um
[02:43] <krionic> I have a question concerning bcache. Does the installation process wipe the data on the backing device?
[02:43] <lisa-e> krionic> im trying that one but cant install gpart
[02:43] <Heartbeats> my function keys are all labeled
[02:43] <Halfalife> Any with an antenna-looking thing?
[02:44] <Heartbeats> no
[02:44] <Halfalife> Hm...
[02:44] <Halfalife> What's the model of the laptop?
[02:44] <Heartbeats> hp pavillion dv4
[02:44] <IcemanV9> on my hp (elitebook 6930p), it's blue antenna on the top of keyboard
[02:44] <KorvinSzanto> why is logging in instantaneous, but entering the wrong password takes a few seconds to tell you that it's wrong?
[02:44] <Halfalife> To slow down bruteforcing.
[02:44] <Halfalife> I'd assume.
[02:44] <KorvinSzanto> didn't think of that
[02:44] <Halfalife> The delay usually gets longer each time.
[02:44] <Halfalife> Until eventually it locks you out.
[02:46] <Halfalife> Heartbeats, one sec.
[02:47] <Heartbeats> okay
[02:47] <Halfalife> Well, from what I read, it should be on the top right.
[02:47] <Halfalife> But if not, just google "HP Pavilion dv4 wifi enable"
[02:48] <Heartbeats> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[02:48] <Heartbeats> uuuh thanks lol
[02:48] <Heartbeats> i think my mind knew that last week
[02:48] <Halfalife> No problem.
[02:48] <Heartbeats> no really thanks.
[02:49] <nronksr> How do I determine that my laptop webcam is detected?  what command can I run to determine that?  ie:  lshw -c video tells me my video driver...
[02:50] <krionic> lisa-e: I have recovered a corrupted ext4 before, but I can't find the instructions I used. Sorry. For what it's worth, if you have files you just HAVE to recover, I have used a program called scalpel to recover pictures from a drive that had been reformatted.
[02:50] <Brick3d> I have heard good things about Recuva I think it is.
[02:51] <Halfalife> Does that work in Linux?
[02:51] <Halfalife> I've used it in Windows, and it worked beautifully.
[02:51] <Brick3d> I believe it is native Linux.
[02:51] <krionic> anyone here ever use bcache?
[02:51] <Halfalife> No, sorry.
[02:51] <Brick3d> I think it even comes on Backtrack
[02:51] <Halfalife> Really?
[02:51] <Halfalife> Under Forensics, maybe?
[02:51] <Brick3d> I would have to check though
[02:52] <Brick3d> Yeah, under Forensics probably
[02:52] <Brick3d> There was another good one that a friend used on  a schools computer to find some fun stuff.
[02:52] <Brick3d> I will see if it is in my email.
[02:54] <Brick3d> Ah. I found the one I was thinking of. It is called Foremost.
[02:54] <mindbender1> how can I determine which command a particular keyboard shortcut is bound to?
[02:54] <Brick3d> Mindbender, you can usually check Keyboard Properties to see.
[02:55] <jagginess> mindbender1, for bash/
[02:55] <jagginess> mindbender1, ?
[02:56] <mindbender1> jagginess: no, for system level shortcuts like Alt+TAB
[02:56] <Halfalife> Alright, this is strange...
[02:56] <Brick3d> Hmmm.... Thats an interesting question
[02:56] <Halfalife> Well, you can change them with compiz-config and the like.
[02:56] <jagginess> mindbender1, should say in systemsettings/keyb (then one of the tabs)
[02:56] <Halfalife> But other than that, not sure.
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> mindbender1: hold the superL key down for a long while and you will see
[02:58] <mindbender1> ActionParsnip: superL?
[02:58] <jagginess> mindbender1, that's the windowslogo key
[02:58] <mindbender1> jagginess: oh, ok
[02:59] <mindbender1> ActionParsnip: the information given there is a bit useless
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> mindbender1: aka 'windows key'
[03:00] <Brick3d> Anyone have any idea why my screen starts displaying random color pixels when I use my hardware keys for Screen Brightness?
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> mindbender1: aka 'Mod4'
[03:01] <krionic> anyone here ever use bcache?
[03:01] <mindbender1> ActionParsnip: I understand, I meant the actual info given after holding superL
[03:01]  * jagginess thinks krionic, is asking for more than 3 times the same question
[03:01] <Brick3d> I havent used bcache b4.
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> mindbender1: if you have all windows minimized, the shortcuts set will display
[03:01] <Brick3d> Whats it do?
[03:01] <mindbender1> what do they mean by switch windows. i need to know what command it is calling
[03:02] <jagginess> Brick3d, recuva what is that?
[03:02] <jagginess> "<Brick3d> I have heard good things about Recuva I think it is."
[03:02] <mindbender1> like in emacs
[03:02] <mindbender1> where you can do C-h k
[03:02] <krionic> Brick3d: bcache lets you use an ssd drive to cache data being sent to RAM for faster response.
[03:02] <IcemanV9> mindbender1:  ctrl+alt+arrows (up, down, left or right)?
[03:03] <Brick3d> Recuva is a forensics program for finding files after they have been deleted or formatted
[03:03] <mindbender1> IcemanV9: what command is that bound to?
[03:03] <ow> !ops botnet incoming
[03:03] <ow> !ops | botnet incoming
[03:03] <IcemanV9> switch windows
[03:03] <Brick3d> That sounds pretty interesting Krionic
[03:03] <jagginess> Brick3d, is it piriform.com? that's for m$windows platform.. why would you give an opinion on that? people use ext3/ext4 on linux.
[03:04] <ev_> so i have been using 'screen'. i launched it from /usr/share/doc/blah blah. once in screen if i ctrl a for a new window the bash starts @ /usr/share/.... can i get it to goto root (or elsewhere) without closing screen?
[03:04] <Brick3d> I got my programs mixed up for a sec.
[03:04] <jagginess> "<Brick3d> I believe it is native Linux."
[03:04]  * jagginess thinks Brick3d is trolling.
[03:04] <Brick3d> I meant to say Foremost
[03:04] <jagginess> it isn't anything close to being on linux AT ALL.
[03:04] <jagginess> neither is foremost
[03:05] <Brick3d> I have used Foremost on Backtrack
[03:05] <zykotick9> ev_: exit out of your current screen session, and restart screen from your home (or prefered directory)
[03:05] <Jak_Atackka> Hello! I'm having audio problems with Sid Meier's Civilization 5. I've already tried disabling pulseaudio
[03:05] <jaime> Quick question for the experts... Running Precise Pangolin and I'm trying to figure out how to add a shortcut to a wine program...
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> Brick3d: if you keep good backups, it makes foremost redundant
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> jaime: the way I have done it in the past is make a bash script to run the application, then make a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications to run the script
[03:08] <Brick3d> Foremost isnt redundant if you are using it to recover information from someone elses drive
[03:08] <Brick3d> Either in legal precedings or just helping a friend
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> Brick3d: true but they should have backups if the data is important, its that simple
[03:09] <Jak_Atackka> ActionParsnip: But what if they have a small hard drive, and can't afford to back up their data?
[03:09] <jaime> Everything I've seen online says to right-click on the desktop and select "Create Launcher" but I don't see that as a choice.
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> Jak_Atackka: foremost needs another location to spit the resulting files to
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> Jak_Atackka: you can use ubuntuone and dropbox as free backup storage if the drive is small
[03:10] <Jak_Atackka> ActionParsnip: Not if you have a crappy internet connection
[03:10] <Brick3d> Or if you have sensitive information that you need to back up
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> Jak_Atackka: you still need a partition mounted writable to extract the data to
[03:12] <Jak_Atackka> Well, anyways, does anyone know why Sid Meier's Civ 5 has no sound?
[03:12] <Brick3d> Do you have sound in other programs?
[03:13] <Jak_Atackka> Every other one
[03:13] <Brick3d> Could be something to do with how Wine is running the program
[03:13] <Brick3d> Maybe change the audio settings for WIne?
[03:13] <Jak_Atackka> I have a few other Wine programs with working sound
[03:13] <jagginess> wine sux
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> jaime: if you copy a .desktop file from ~/.config/autostart  and modify it, you can make it run what you want.
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: some apps run better than windows under wine
[03:15] <ev_> zykotick9: just to be clear, i can detach: ctrl a, d
[03:15] <Brick3d> Jak_Attacka: Have you tried running that program using PlayOnLinux?
[03:16] <Brick3d> Or Crossover?
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Jak_Atackka: is there anyting in the appdb about the sound?
[03:16] <abro21> when i change my power settings they don't change on my computer. i.e. when i set "When the lid is closed: Do nothing" I
[03:16] <Jak_Atackka> ActionParsnip: appdb?
[03:17] <abro21> I'll close my computer and it sleeps
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Jak_Atackka: yes, appdb
[03:17] <Jak_Atackka> Brick3d: No, and no
[03:17] <anditosan> I installed ubuntu successfully but on a system with UEFI, now only windows loads although ubuntu is actually installed on a partition. What do I do now?
[03:17] <anditosan> please help
[03:17] <Jak_Atackka> What is appdb?
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Jak_Atackka: search and you will find
[03:17] <Ph1rmw4r3> !info appdb
[03:18] <Jak_Atackka> Oh, right
[03:18] <Jak_Atackka> Didn't know it was called that
[03:18] <zelrik> hi
[03:18] <Jak_Atackka> ActionParsnip: There is only one suggested fix, and it didn't work
[03:18] <Brick3d> I have played around with Crossover when trying to run games and it seems to do the trick usually.
[03:18] <zelrik> I am getting the following error called name not present
[03:18] <zelrik> when trying a smb connection
[03:18] <Brick3d> Only thing is that it is a pay for program
[03:18] <zelrik> to a win7 computer
[03:18] <Jak_Atackka> Brick3d: I don't have the money to spare, unfortunately
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> Jak_Atackka: yes, there are little tidbits of guides on how to make apps work in wine as well as user experiences of apps. It may not even be able to get sound under wine, some apps refuse to even install. It should be the first place you look when messing with wine
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> zelrik: what are you using to connect?
[03:19] <Ph1rmw4r3> hi xangua
[03:19] <zelrik> ActionParsnip, I am using the following command: smbclient -L <ip>
[03:20] <Jak_Atackka> ActionParsnip: I've looked at that before, and it appears that the sound bug is sporadic and only affects a few people. I have a terrible internet connection, so redownloading it is only a last resort
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> zelrik: if you run:  smbtree     do you see the share?
[03:20] <zelrik> I can ping that ip without problem
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> Jak_Atackka: i'd ask in #winehq too
[03:20] <Jak_Atackka> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks
[03:20] <zelrik> ActionParsnip, no
[03:20] <Guddu> When i add a USB Printer....Can it show up as LPT#1 in the Device Screen when we press Add Printer?
[03:20] <jagginess> zelrik, btw, one of the firmware updates on that router (remember me? :), has to do with dhcp/ip reserve, (from v 2.01)
[03:21] <zelrik> jagginess, do you think that will fix that problem?
[03:23] <DG_> hey guys
[03:25] <DG_> is chromium web browser on the software center chrome?
[03:25] <DG_> because i dont want to type my password in and get hacked or something
[03:26] <zykotick9> DG_: chromium != chrome
[03:26] <anditosan> anyone know how to install ubuntu with uefi?
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> zelrik: check your firewall onwindows is allowing the traffic
[03:27] <DG_> i know that chromium is chrome but is the one on the app store thats the blue google chrome symbol because it tells me to enter in my password to sync
[03:28] <beatbreaker> !ping
[03:29] <Halfalife> !ping
[03:29] <Jak_Atackka> Okay, I've been having a very annoying bug. I can only use sound through HDMI Out (I use an HDTV as my monitor) or through a headphone jack. In order to switch from one to the other, I have to change alsabase.conf and reboot
[03:29] <jagginess> !uefi
[03:29] <jagginess> !efi
[03:29] <jagginess> :/...
[03:29] <jagginess> geez its dry on efi..
[03:30] <Jak_Atackka> No, ubottu is down
[03:30] <Jak_Atackka> I can't ping him
[03:30] <Halfalife> Jak_Atackka, can you see both in Alsamixre?
[03:30] <Halfalife> mixer*
[03:30] <anditosan> jagginess, any clue on how to install with uefi?
[03:30] <Jak_Atackka> Halfalife: No
[03:31] <Halfalife> Just to make sure, you've scrolled all the way to the right?
[03:31] <Jak_Atackka> Yep
[03:31] <Halfalife> And they don't both show up in PulseAudio?
[03:31] <Jak_Atackka> Nope.
[03:32] <jaime> ActionParsnip: I'm getting "Access denied" when I try to copy into /usr/share/applications
[03:32] <DG_> guys, is the blue chromium app the REAL chrome or should i actually download it, im so confused
[03:32] <jaime> I'm a bit of a Linux n00b...
[03:32] <Halfalife> Chromium is an open-source implementation of Chrome.
[03:32] <Halfalife> As long as you're downloading from the official repository, you should be fine.
[03:32] <Halfalife> And yes, it has a blue icon.
[03:33] <DG_> i downloaded it from the ubuntu software center
[03:33] <xangua> Halfalife: it's chrome who gets it's source from chromium
[03:33] <Halfalife> Yes, but when I said implementation.
[03:34] <Halfalife> I just mean that it's the open-source alternative.
[03:34] <Halfalife> Didn't Google write the source, anyways?
[03:34] <Halfalife> So Chrome doesn't as much "get its source from Chromium" as it shares it.
[03:35] <Guddu> When i add a USB Printer....Can it show up as LPT#1 in the Device Screen when we press Add Printer?
[03:36] <DG_> so basically if i downloaded it from the ubuntu software center im safe?
[03:36] <Halfalife> Yes.
[03:36] <Halfalife> Assuming you didn't add a sketchy source at some point.
[03:36] <rypervenche> Like a PPA.
[03:36] <DG_> add a sketchy source?
[03:36] <DG_> i JUST installed ubuntu lol
[03:36] <Halfalife> Oh, yeah, you're fine then.
[03:36] <rypervenche> Then you're good.
[03:36] <DG_> alright sweet
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> jaime: run:  gksudo nautilus $HOME    and you should be able to
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> DG_: chromium is the open source chrome, its fine. the bugs reported in chromium go on to make chrome
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> DG_: snapshots of chromium are taken the some proprietary lumps get added and it makes the next release of chrome
[03:39] <DG_> alright cool, i just didnt want to get my google account hacked lmao
[03:40] <DG_> also, how can i make a picture my background? is it just right click it or do i have to add it to like a backgrounds file :/
[03:40] <Halfalife> In Ubuntu?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> DG_: you can use the chrome browser if you want, there is a deb supplied by google for both 64bit and 32bit Ubuntu
[03:40] <Halfalife> Which DE?
[03:41] <Halfalife> You can probably right-click on desktop, and there'll be an option.
[03:41] <Halfalife> That's how it is in Xubuntu, not sure in Unity.
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> unity isn't a DE
[03:42] <Halfalife> Yeah, sorry.
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> :) it's cool </nitpicking>
[03:42] <Halfalife> I'd just like to interject for a moment...
[03:42] <DG_> well i guess ill just use chromium lol
[03:42] <Halfalife> But what you're referring to as Unity is, etc, etc.
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> DG_: http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/landing_chrome.html
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> Halfalife: its a shell for gnome
[03:44] <Halfalife> Yeah, I'm aware.
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> DG_: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/eula.html?platform=linux&hl=en
[03:44] <Halfalife> As I said, I just consider it a DE.
[03:44] <DG_> thanks, i already got it
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> Itd be nice if you could run it without a DE, like you can with openbox / fluxbox etc, that'd be awesome
[03:45] <Hwkiller> you can
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> Hwkiller: really?
[03:45] <Hwkiller> it's just a compiz plugin
[03:45] <Hwkiller> you can run compiz standalone
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> Hwkiller: wouldn't you need gnome installed to run compiz though
[03:45] <Hwkiller> not at all
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> ahhh, wasnt aware
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> hmm, may have to play later
[03:46] <Hwkiller> I ran compiz standalone on arch for a long time. it was nice
[03:46] <DG_> brb
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> Hwkiller: yeah, there are a few guides
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> looks like the future
[03:47] <hylian> anyone have a way to permanently show the shutdown button on gnome 3 without using the alt key?
[03:47] <Hwkiller> no... definitely not the future
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> Hwkiller: thanks man
[03:48] <Hwkiller> hylian: there is a plugin on the extension website for that
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> same guff, fewer resources. Sounds ideam
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> ideal
[03:48] <blackshirt> why on apt-get update process this error was happen W: GPG error InRelease: Unknown error executing gpgv
[03:48] <hylian> Hwkiller: what website is that, gnome's website?
[03:48] <blackshirt> ?
[03:48] <Hwkiller> https://extensions.gnome.org/
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: can you give a pastebin of the full output of:  sudo apt-get update     Thanks
[03:49] <Hwkiller> ActionParsnip: except that a window manager by itself isn't that useful unless you know what you're doing
[03:49] <hylian> Hwkiller: thanks Hwkiller!
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> Hwkiller: true but a default install could set it up nice for you :)
[03:49] <Bomboz819> Hi i have a dedicated server and i have ubuntu install how can i get see desktop icon where do i begin
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: the server install doesn't have an X server or desktop icons, its command line based
 how can i see desktop icons i need interface
[03:50] <Halfalife> Install X.
[03:51] <Hwkiller> install a -desktop package (e.g., apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: what do you want teh server to do exactly?
[03:51] <Halfalife> sudo apt-get install xorg-server? Not actually sure.
[03:51]  * Hwkiller can't believe he just recommended a metapackage. blech
[03:51] <blackshirt> ActionParsnip: this is output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1182836/
[03:51] <Halfalife> Yeah, don't install ubuntu-desktop
[03:52] <Bomboz819> how do i start my server and see desktop icons
[03:52] <Halfalife> .Just install the packages you want.
[03:52] <Bomboz819> am new to ubuntu
[03:52] <Halfalife> Well, what exactly are you using?
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: debian isnt suported here
[03:52] <Halfalife> Ubuntu server, Ubuntu minimal, *buntu?
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: what is the server going to be performing in its role as server?
[03:52] <Hwkiller> Bomboz819: if you wanted an interface, you should've installed the version of ubuntu w/ an interface, :p
[03:52] <Hwkiller> but just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:52] <Hwkiller> interminal
[03:52] <Hwkiller> in terminal*
[03:52] <Hwkiller> if that's so important to you
[03:53] <Halfalife> Or xubuntu-desktop.
[03:53] <blackshirt> ActionParsnip, not supported, but maybe you can help me .. thanks guys
[03:53] <Halfalife> If you prefer that.
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[03:53] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: ask in #debian
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: debian is offtopic here
[03:53] <blackshirt> okey
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: you can do the audio and media stuff with media tomb
 am a a chat room hosting
 i dont realy know what to use is is putty we need to use to command line
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: http://www.junauza.com/2009/07/turn-ordinary-webcam-into-security-spy.html
[03:56] <jgcampbell300> is there a cli command to rest source.list
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: I can give you mine if you want
 you dont uderstand what i mean i need to install something to get access to remote desktop from my windows pc to linux server desktop icons
[03:56] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip: sure
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/sources.list
[03:57] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip: thanks
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: if you want to overwrite your current one, run:  sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/sources.list
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: it will download it and overwrite the one you have now :)
[03:58] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip: cool thanks
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | Bomboz819 for what you are doing you don't need a desktop OS
[04:02] <Guddu> Where in Ubuntu can i enter this path?  smb://<windows m/c ip or name>/<shared folder name> In order to access a Windows Shares Folder?
[04:02] <Guddu> I am on Unity and I can't find the option
[04:03] <GraemeLion> Guddu: Click on the home folder.. then hit CTRL-L , or use the Go menu item and select Location
[04:05] <Guddu> GraemeLion:  CTRL-L Did not work. Where is the Go Menu Item?
[04:06] <Bomboz819> do some one knwo how to install teamviewer service over unbuntu using ssh commandline
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: press ALT+F2 and type it there
[04:07] <Hwkiller> using ssh commandline? so you want to install teamviewer on another pc?
[04:07] <Guddu> ActionParsnip:  Are we required to remember those shortcuts?
[04:08] <Guddu> Is there no menu items?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: you do realize that if you install cheese on the server, connect with:  ssh -X user@server     you can then run cheese and view what the webcam sees....
[04:08] <Bomboz819> i will like to installl teamviewer on my server to be able ont my windows pc to see linux desktop environement
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: is that what you desire? To see what the webcam sees?
[04:08] <Hwkiller> teamviewer is remote desktop isn't it?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Hwkiller: ye
 yesss
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: do you just want to be able to see what the webcam attached to the server side sees?
[04:10] <King_Cobra> how do ya uninstall Mint 7 from ubuntu 12.04..? ..i made a boot disc for and older computer but it installed it on my hard disk instead of making a LiveCD.. now im stuck with Mint, Ubuntu, and Win 7 on one hard drive..
[04:10] <Hwkiller> if that's the case, he should use motion :p, that is a great program
[04:10] <luftikuss> Why does Ubuntu 12.04.1 not provide a package for gpg4usb? http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/index.html
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> King_Cobra: just delete the partitions mint is installed to then run:  sudo update-grub      should be ok (be sure to archive any data you need)
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> luftikuss: could report a bug
[04:11] <luftikuss> King_Cobra: Mint is not supported in this channel. There is a separate Mint channel.
[04:11] <King_Cobra> no kidding luft.. i dont want mint on my hard drive..
 first off all i have install on my dedicated server ubuntu 12.0.4 lts for now am using putty to connect and install the gnome interface because i need interface icon not command line i need to setup my server gui interface thanks
[04:12] <luftikuss> ActionParsnip: I do not understand you well. Do you mean that I should turn to Launchpad errors? Where to place my wish there?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: can you kindly answer my question regarding the webcam
[04:13] <King_Cobra> im using ubuntu to remove mint.. not asking about mint at all other then how to remove it..
[04:13] <Bomboz819> how do a start it the gui
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> luftikuss: if you feel the package should be in the repos, report a bug
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: do you want to watch the webcam on the remote site, is that what you are trying to achieve?
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: like a security system?
[04:13] <King_Cobra> ty action.. will try
 no i need setup the gui interface linux
[04:14] <luftikuss> ActionParsnip: A but can only be reported for a specific existing Ubuntu package. But a Ubuntu package gpg4usb does not exist.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: ok then if you don't want to connect to the webcam then my suggestion won't count
[04:15] <luftikuss> s/but/bug report/
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: 04:53 < Bomboz819> <ActionParsnip> chating systeme audio video _webcam hosting_     does sound a LOT like you want to view the webcam on the other side
 am using camfrog hosting software
[04:16] <Bomboz819> paltalk
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: if you are dead set on a GUI on your server (bad idea) you can install LXDE and get a light
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: camfrog doesn't run in Linux
 yess camfrog server work on linux
[04:19] <zelrik> hi
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: http://www.howtoforge.com/install-camfrogserver-advanced-6.0-on-ubuntu-linux   doesn't need a GUI
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: that whole process can be done via putty
[04:20] <Hwkiller> if he wants to see a cam, use motion
[04:20] <Hwkiller> it also includes motion detection
 cool thanks for information but that don give me the gui active
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: you don't need it
[04:22] <Bomboz819> iknow i dont need gui but i wand one
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: why
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: it makes your server less responsive, less secure and use more resources than it needs to
[04:22] <Bomboz819> because am not very good to command line  am a noob
[04:23] <anti-freeze> Bomboz819, you could go for a window manager if you're picky with performance
 windows dont stop ddos and flood attacks
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: so you are going to put a gui on 'cos you are a noob' but then you will never learn, so you will stay 'a noob'
[04:23] <anti-freeze> Bomboz819, but XFCE is a full desktop environment and complete. You can find it with Xubuntu
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: the gui gains you nothing
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: and your reason for wanting it will actually keep your skills down and you will never learn, its a lose lose
[04:24] <King_Cobra> ahh.. that's better.. no more mint..thank you very much Action
 is it easy to install and start up
[04:24] <anti-freeze> Bomboz819, Oh sorry i wasnt here for the whole convo
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> King_Cobra: run:  sudo updte-grub   too, should make grub lose the config for mint :)
[04:24] <rypervenche> Bomboz819: GUI not good for server, très mauvaise idée.
[04:24] <King_Cobra> will do
 ah oui
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: think about it, just a little
 jais besoin dun interface linux gui
[04:25] <anti-freeze> Ah, server talk. It costs too many resources to run a UI in a server
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: the guide i gave doesn't even need skill, just copying and pasting commands
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> !fr | Bomboz819
[04:25] <DG_> guys is there a mobile IRC chat for android?
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> DG_: i use andchat :)
[04:26] <Bomboz819> am here to bee understand and be help for what am asking can some one help me
[04:26] <anti-freeze> Bomboz819, What server do you want to set up? What distro? I know i guide that might help you
[04:26] <anti-freeze> i know a*
[04:26] <Bomboz819> ubuntu
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: fine, install lxde and use vnc, you are holding yourself back, but hey your choice (no matter how ill educated it may be)
[04:26] <anti-freeze> Bomboz819, 12.04?
[04:27] <Bomboz819> yess anti
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: you will need to install a login manager too and configure autologin
[04:27] <anti-freeze> Bomboz819, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: yuo will then need to make vnc run before all this happens so you can connect to it
[04:28] <anti-freeze> Bomboz819, This is a guide with ISPConfig 3, but there are more guides on the site, like LAMP servers
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: basically its a lot of heartache, far more work for a noob than just following steb by step guides with commands to copy and paste, but hey 'you're a noob' as you say
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Bomboz819: you are going to have to run and configure the desktop OS frmo the server OS and configure lightdm and vnc all from cpmmand line so you can get a desktop to 'make life easier', it makes no sense at all
[04:29] <anti-freeze> ActionParsnip, you have to start somewhere man, its better than trying to do things in a UI when you can learn the commands through the guide... if you spend the time to learn the commands ofcourse
[04:29] <DG_> does this channel have a specific port?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> anti-freeze: but the desktop wil need configging from CLI anyway, requiring just as much work as if you just configure the apps from cli without the desktop
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> DG_: the port for irc is 6667   you then join the channel once you connect
[04:30] <pmp6nl> Would rdiff-backup be a good option for backing up my remote ubuntu server to my ubuntu laptop?  Is there a good gui based program? Thanks
[04:30] <anti-freeze> ActionParsnip, Exactly, i disagree with GUI on a server, but hey, whatever suits people
[04:31] <DG_> im getting host is unresolved?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> DG_: are you connecting to irc.freenode.net
[04:32] <DG_> would that go in address?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> DG_: yes
[04:32] <DG_> k
[04:33] <raymond_> Has anyone here used full disk encryption w/ ubuntu on a laptop?
[04:34] <DG_> brb
[04:34] <anti-freeze> raymond_, yep... LVM with encryption
[04:35] <raymond_> anti-freeze, I'm wondering if it's worth using?  Will I notice a big decrease in performance on my core2duo T6600/4GB RAM?
[04:36] <raymond_> My main concern is how it would work out with using a VM.
[04:36] <anti-freeze> raymond_, Ive noticed a slight performance decrease, but are you sure you need encryption? You could always encrypt your home folder if your that paranoid
[04:36] <dandkburt> is it possable to get a tutor for ubuntu
[04:37] <raymond_> anti-freeze, thanks :)  I'll give that a shot
[04:37] <anti-freeze> raymond_, You're welcome, you know where to find me if you need some more help :)
[04:42] <zymaster> Hey quick question anyone know how to install adobe reader firefox plugin? I can install adobe reader itself but not plugin.
[04:42] <dandkburt> is it possable to get a tutor for ubuntu
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> zymaster: for which browser (I'm guessing you mean browser)
[04:43] <zymaster> yeah firefox browser
[04:44] <zymaster> i downloaded file from adobe ran it in terminal as root. Installed in /opt it claimed it installed browser plugin and the file is in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins but the plugin is not showing up in firefox itself
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> zymaster: in about:config   find:   pdfjs.disabled:true
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> pdq: change it to false
[04:45] <darknyss> alt-tab stopped working after updates and a reboot
[04:45] <darknyss> help please? 12.04
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> zymaster: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/firefox-15-released
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> darknyss: install compizconfig-settings-manager   and re-enable the plugin, or enable ring switcher if yuo like pretty
[04:47] <zymaster> ActionParsnip: thanks
[04:47] <darknyss> ActionParsnip, After that, how do I open the manager via terminal?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> darknyss: ccsm
[04:48] <raido> Ok, my MOTD stated there is Maverick available... do-release-upgrade says no upgrade available, update-manager is set to show LTS only. Im on 10.04.4 and want 12.04.1. Someting is really wonked up here.
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> raido: weird indeed, could use the alternate ISO and upgrade using that. I believe if you boot to the desktop install CD it should be able to upgrade there too
[04:50] <darknyss> ActionParsnip, It's open now. What am I looking for under ccsm?
[04:50] <raido> ActionParsnip: k,thx
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> darknyss: I believe it's called static switcher
[04:51] <darknyss> Kk ty.
[04:53] <zveda> what do I do if I installed cinnamon  on ATI
[04:54] <zveda> my cinnamon using 70% cpu all the time
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> zveda: cinamon isn't supported here
[04:54] <zveda> o soz
[04:58] <aaearon> trying to give my ubuntu install on vmware more disk space, gave it 40GB under vcenter and when i reboot into ubuntu livecd to use gparted, it sees the 40GB but i cant resize/move sda1 to grow sda1 by 40GB
[04:58] <aaearon> any ideas?
[05:03] <anti-freeze> aaearon, i believe you have to re-do the vm image
[05:03] <Guddu> Dear alll...I have a EPSON DOT Matrix printer. It is connected to my PC via USB. I send prints but nothing prints out. When i open the printer queue, the jobs show up as completed successfuly. Any help would be highly appreciated.
[05:06] <aaearon> ehys that anti-freeze
[05:06] <marcm> how do I install and remove a package with apt at the same time?
[05:08] <m6d4> marcm: why would you do that?
[05:09] <marcm> m6d4 replace the kernel with the one I want instead of the one apt wants me to install
[05:10] <xangua> you do not want to uninstall the kernel provided from the ubuntu repository marcm
[05:11] <puppy_parade> Is there a way to get sound to work for normal applications while I am using a midi device with JACK?
[05:11] <marcm> xangua I am working on Xen templates. I install Ubuntu in a KVM VM, then I'm converting it to Xen. I just want to replace the kernel with another kernel from Ubuntu repository. Generic -> Virtual
[05:12] <odisus> hello
[05:13] <odisus> I was wondering if its possible to make shortcuts to programs from the dash? I looked all over online and it told me to install ubuntu tweak but it doesnt do the trick
[05:13] <odisus> maybe im just doing it wrong..
[05:15] <odisus> anyone on?
[05:19] <ebs512> I am having the most difficult time installing themes or finding full themes for ubuntu 12.04 lts
[05:19] <odisus> I just installed ubuntu 12.04
[05:19] <odisus> Not sure how themes work either
[05:19] <odisus>  I did hear that ubuntu tweak does fix some issues
[05:20] <odisus> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> odisus: ubuntu tweak is pretty cool
[05:20] <odisus> I'm trying to find a way to make desktop shortcuts from the dash...
[05:20] <ebs512> odisus it says * For Ubuntu 11.04 and before: old versions
[05:21] <odisus> D=
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> odisus: if you run:  nautilus /usr/share/applications      you can copy and paste the items to the desktop
[05:21] <odisus> Thank you mister ActionParsnip
[05:22] <odisus> I find it kinda silly how u are suspose to use terminal for something that is suspose to be simple like dragging an icon to a screen
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> odisus: ideally it would have a right click, Its just one way I know it will work
[05:22] <odisus> yea
[05:22] <ebs512> ActionParsnip how do I make a launcher shortcut with root permissions so I can just click the icon and it will let me edit files in the file system
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: in the exec line, prefix the command with 'gksudo'
[05:25] <odisus> Oooo Na'vi vs IG in dota 2 right now *grabs popcorn*
[05:28] <Guddu> Has anyone used Static IP for their Ubuntu Machine? If you could help me configuring this please.
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: you can use network manager
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: set the interface to manual and you can specify ip, subnet and dns there
[05:29] <wolfric> Guddu: man interfaces
[05:29] <wolfric> there's an example in there. the file is in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:30] <Guddu> Thanks ActionParsnip wolfric
[05:30] <wolfric> just place it below whatever's there already
[05:32] <odisus> I just recently installed ubuntu, any recommendations to what I should install/set up
[05:32] <wolfric> Guddu: http://pastebin.com/EaPsDZL8 here's a quick example
[05:32] <Guddu> ActionParsnip wolfric in network Manager GUI i see a option 'Shared to Other Computers'....What would that mean?
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: no, right click the icon in the panel and select 'edit connections'
[05:33] <Guddu> Thanks wolfric I will try that now
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: i got rid of the square mouse pointer with nomodeset, but compiz is completly unworkable, no wobbly windows, laucher icon size big again etc..its all laggy
[05:33] <Guddu> ActionParsnip:  What panel? I am on Unity and I am finding it difficult to find anything easily
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: top panel, on the right
[05:34] <linocisco> hi all, I have Canon LJ3050 USB printer, I want to make it network printer and share it for windows client. I want to know how to. I also want to know if I need to make my windows machine as workgroup or join linux domain
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> linocisco: can ubuntu print to it ok?
[05:35] <Guddu> ActionParsnip:  Right...There are multiple methods listed under IPV4 Settings....One of them is shared to other computers...what does that mean?
[05:35] <wolfric> Guddu: http://www.multimediaboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/networkmanagerapplet.png
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: under ipv4 settings, set the connection to manual and you can set the IP
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: http://wiki.dave.eu/index.php/File:DVDK_Ubuntu_Network_Configuration_3.png
[05:36] <wolfric> Guddu: exactly what it sounds like. Especially useful if you had internet from say, dialup or wifi
[05:36] <wolfric> and you wanted to share it with the local network
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> is it normal for nomodeset to disable compiz?
[05:38] <Guddu> wolfric:  If i configure a Static IP with the values as in http://pastebin.com/EaPsDZL8 then I hope I will not lose internet connectivity?
[05:38] <DG_> hi :)
[05:38] <wolfric> Guddu: well obviously you need to change your ips and gateway
[05:38] <wolfric> Guddu: wait, why are you setting a static ip?
[05:39] <wolfric> did someone tell you you needed a static ip for your internet?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: you can run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail      to define DNS :)
[05:39] <wolfric> ActionParsnip: left out / before etc
[05:40] <Guddu> wolfric:  Basically my requirement is to have a UBUNTU PC installed at a client's site...The PC should have internet also and the PC runs apache which should be accessible by other users on the network. Maximum of 2 users only...So i basically wanted the IP not to change with every restart so that the users can use the Same URL everyday to launch my WEB Application
[05:40] <Guddu> ;)
[05:40] <Guest31459> I am a fresh hatched newbie with ubuntu.  Anyone know of any good resources to learn about using the terminal
[05:40] <hateball> linocisco: this is a good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[05:40] <Guddu> ActionParsnip:  That's gooogle DNS :-)
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> !bash | Guest31459
[05:40] <hateball> linocisco: note that sharing to windows usually is a pain, but your mileage may wary
[05:40] <wolfric> Guddu: it is indeed
[05:41] <wolfric> Guddu: stick with network manager not with what i told you
[05:41] <Guest31459> Thanks lotus i am checking that out now
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> np
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: true
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: it's easy to remember
[05:43] <Guddu> wolfric:  Ok....I would need some help in finding out my parameters for Subnet Mask and gateway etc ... My current settings are as in image at http://imgur.com/kgaJO
[05:44] <Guddu> ActionParsnip:  ^ Your help please
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: isn't that your ISP's connection, or do you have the same IP each tuime?
[05:45] <Guddu> ActionParsnip:  Yes. It is my ISP. But IP would change each time I am sure.
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: then you want to use  DHCP for that interface
[05:46] <Guddu> ActionParsnip:  With DHCP won't my IP change after restart?
[05:47] <wolfric> Guddu: you should ask your isp about this
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: yes but your connection doesn't have a static IP
[05:47] <wolfric> Guddu: as far as i know, it should be fine technically speaking as the dhcp server should see what ips are taken but you may end up just collding with an ip
[05:48] <wolfric> say if your connection goes down, that ip will be given away
[05:48] <Guddu> wolfric:  ISP will not really help me. Even less in this part of the world.
[05:48] <wolfric> when your connection comes back, you may cause disruption for both you and the person previously with the ip
[05:48] <wolfric> Guddu: that's probably because they haven't given you a static ip so you shouldn't be using one
[05:48] <bbk> how to create startup disk(cd) from ubuntu terminal?
[05:48] <Guddu> wolfric:  Is there any other way to guarantee that the WEB App URL does not change so that users can alway access my Web Application using the same URL everytime?
[05:49] <smw> bbk, you want to make an ubuntu install disk?
[05:49] <wolfric> Guddu: dyndns
[05:49] <smw> bbk, do you have a copy of the iso?
[05:49] <Guddu> I am using apache to render
[05:49] <bbk> yes
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> bbk: you can use wodim in terminal to burn CD in terminal
[05:49] <Guddu> dyndns..Thanks.... looking up what it is.
[05:49] <smw> bbk, sudo cdrecord -v the.iso
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: or no-ip
[05:49] <smw> ActionParsnip, is wodim better than cdrecord?
[05:49] <wolfric> Guddu: dynamic dns, you have a client sitting on your computer and it registers you a free dns (or you can pay for a better one) that updates to your current ip when your ip changes
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> Guddu: both services have a client app to update the IP with th service so if your IP does change the service gets notified
[05:50] <wolfric> so you use something like guddu.dyndns.info
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> smw: its different, not necessarily better, depends what features you need
[05:50] <ebs512> ActionParsnip how do I get this theme, there isn't a download for it http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/ubuntu-12.04?before=1343608273
[05:51] <smw> ActionParsnip, seems to be based on cdrecord
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> smw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Burning_a_CD_or_DVD_using_Command_Line_tools
[05:51] <wolfric> Guddu: i'm very interested to know what kind of connection you have that allows a client running ubuntu desktop with a 1gbps connection to get a public ip...
[05:51] <Guddu> wolfric:  Instead of going through internet, can i somehow create a LAN instead? So that network latency can be avoided?
[05:52] <wolfric> Guddu: do you have a lan?
[05:52] <Guddu> wolfric:  I am using VTR
[05:52] <Guddu> www.vtr.cl is the service provider
[05:52] <Guddu> wolfric:  Thats 1000 Mb/s ...I really don'y know how it arrived at that value though
[05:53] <wolfric> oh right, you have a router and the router just hands out public ips then yeah?
[05:53] <Guddu> speedtest.net shows 18Mbps Download
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: the icon theme is the default gnome one (not humanity) with a glossy wallpaper and a dock, as well as gnome-panel instead of Unity
[05:53] <wolfric> no 1000Mbps is the local connection to the router/switch
[05:53] <Guddu> wolfric:  Yes. a Modem provided by ISP...that modem allows upto 4 PCs to be connected using Wi-Fi and 4 Sockets for Ethernet Cable Out
[05:53] <ebs512> I can do all of that on Ubuntu 12.04?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: could be avant-window-navigator times 2
[05:53] <wolfric> does it not do nat no?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: sure. I'd start with a base of XFCE and build up
[05:54] <Guddu> wolfric:  nat no? Was that for me?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: the thing on the right is just conky, there are lots of configs for that
[05:55] <ebs512> I just want a digital effect like that for a theme
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: how do you mean? If you ask the guy for the wallpaper you'll probably have a desktop you like as unity will theme to the wallpaper
[05:56] <wolfric> GabrieleV: yeah
[05:56] <wolfric> woops
[05:56] <wolfric> Guddu: the dyndns will still work on the local lan. The address is the only thing that will go over the internet
[05:56] <ebs512> what is XFCE?
[05:57] <wolfric> Guddu: if you're getting public ips, i'd make sure you're firewalled btw
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: a different desktop to the default gnome
[05:58] <ebs512> It says I have Unity2D and Unity2D installed
[05:58] <ebs512> Unity2D Panel*
[05:58] <Guddu> wolfric:  You mean if i use dyn-dns then the Client PCs will resolve the Server IP Address through internet only once and then all the communication will happpen locally and not over internet?
[05:59] <wolfric> Guddu: yeah
[05:59] <Guddu> wolfric:  dyndns is a paid service. Is there a free solution for my requirement?
[05:59] <wolfric> dyndns has a free solution
[06:00] <wolfric> huh apparently not
[06:01] <mindstorm> t doesn't anymore?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> noip is free, there is also noip2 which you can install on ubuntu to update the IP with
[06:01] <wolfric> Guddu: http://www.no-ip.com/personal/
[06:01] <wolfric> i think if you originally had one it's free or the free setting is hidden
[06:01] <wolfric> i only a day or two ago got a notice about my free one
[06:02] <Guddu> wolfric:  So that means that the users willl access the no-ip hostname .....? One more question...Iif my machine's IP changes then how long will it take for no-ip hostname to start pointing to new IP?
[06:02] <wolfric> few seconds?
[06:02] <ebs512> oh okay now I know what you are talking about ActionParsnip, which one would you say has the cpu displays on the right and a windows style taskbar on the bottom?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: conky
[06:02] <somsip> Guddu: a few seconds, but then you have propagation to all nameservers. Can take a while but not sure if no-ip are quick or slow
[06:03] <wolfric> Guddu: http://support.no-ip.com/customer/portal/articles/351852-how-often-are-monitoring-notifications-sent-out-when-a-service-goes-down-
[06:03] <wolfric> woops wait no that's not it
[06:03] <wolfric> you'll have ot dig into the faq a bit for yourself to find out but not long really
[06:04] <ebs512> is it available in the ubuntu software?
[06:04] <wolfric> ebs512: noip?
[06:05] <ebs512> noip not available
[06:05] <wolfric> ebs512: http://support.no-ip.com/customer/portal/articles/363247-installing-the-linux-dynamic-update-client-on-ubuntu
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> !info noip2 oneiric
[06:06] <spiouki> hey my clamav virus definition is outdated and i dont know how to update it. help please
[06:06] <spiouki> I used sudo apt-get install freshclam
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> spiouki: did you add the clamav ppa?
[06:06] <ebs512> E: Unable to locate package noip2
[06:07] <spiouki> nop
[06:07] <wolfric> looks like noip isn't in precise o.O
[06:07] <wolfric> try no-ip
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> wolfric: the client from oneiric works in precise
[06:08] <ebs512> E: Unable to locate package noip
[06:08] <wolfric> yeah dropped
[06:08] <wolfric> just use that link i sent
[06:09] <wolfric> http://support.no-ip.com/customer/portal/articles/363247-installing-the-linux-dynamic-update-client-on-ubuntu
[06:09] <wolfric> How to install No-IP Linux Dynamic Update Client (DUC) on your Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  heading
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: what is the output of:  uname -a
[06:09] <wolfric> was removed from debian and hense disapeared from ubuntu http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653957
[06:10] <ebs512> Linux ebs512-HP-Pavilion-g7-Notebook-PC 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/no-ip/2.1.9-3/+build/972503/+files/noip2_2.1.9-3_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./noip2_2.1.9-3_amd64.deb; rm ./noip2_2.1.9-3_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[06:12] <spiouki> should i add those two lines to repository source?
[06:12] <spiouki> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clamav/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[06:12] <ebs512> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:13] <spiouki> hey I want  update clamav using these ppa how can i do it?
[06:13] <spiouki> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clamav/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[06:13] <spiouki> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clamav/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[06:14] <ebs512> You have entered an incorrect username
[06:14] <ebs512> 	-or-
[06:14] <ebs512> an incorrect password for this username.
[06:14] <ebs512> how do I fix that?
[06:15] <celthunder> stiltzkin: kenter a correct user / pass
[06:15] <celthunder> er
[06:15] <celthunder> ebs512: enter a correct user / pass?
[06:15] <wolfric> ebs512: enter the right username password :)
[06:15] <ebs512> correct, I dontknow how to access it
[06:15] <wolfric> ebs512: have you created an account?
[06:15] <ebs512> yes I just did
[06:16] <ebs512> it was telling me couldnt find a cfg file
[06:16] <Guddu> wolfric:  If the internet connectivity is lost the my Client PCs will not be able to connect to Ubuntu server using hostname right?
[06:16] <ebs512> * Creating a read-write copy of the noip2 configuration...cp: cannot stat `/var/lib/noip2/noip2.conf': No such file or directory
[06:17] <wolfric> ebs512: how did you install it again?
[06:17] <ebs512> used the command ActionParsnip gave me
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> spidernik84: don't use that, use the bold text with: add-apt-repository
[06:18] <aidanjt> ActionParsnip: spiouki is gone
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> wrong nick
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> yeah
[06:18] <aidanjt> no patience these days lol
[06:18] <wolfric> ebs512: look in /var/lib/noip2
[06:19] <wolfric> ebs512: there might be a noip2.conf.example or something
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: try:  sudo noip2 -C
[06:20] <s_ruan> hello
[06:21] <blz> !hello | s_ruan
[06:21] <s_ruan> say to me "helle"?
[06:21] <ebs512> blah I swear I typed my password and username correctly however it is telling me I haven't is there any way to reset them?
[06:22] <Guddu> wolfric:  If i use no-ip and If the internet connectivity is lost then my Client PCs will not be able to connect to Ubuntu server using hostname. Is that right?
[06:22] <wolfric> Guddu: no the hostname should update that's the whole point
[06:23] <wolfric> if your connectivity is lost however and stays lost, everything should work fine for a while
[06:23] <wolfric> depending on the dhcp lease time of the router and whether the client has looked it up before
[06:23] <ebs512> wolfric is there a way to reset the username and password for no-ip2 because it keeps telling me I am entering it wrong
[06:23] <wolfric> ebs512: check the website
[06:24] <Guddu> wolfric:  Is there a way i can take internet out of the equation and just go via a local router? Internet connectvity is not very stable here :)
[06:24] <Guddu> I am consufed about the configuration
[06:24] <wolfric> Guddu: not unless you run nat
[06:24] <wolfric> nat gives you private ips on your local network
[06:25] <wolfric> Guddu: forgive me if i'm wrong, but you don't sound like you'd be confident changing that on the router
[06:25] <wolfric> if you screw up, you could disconnect yourself from the internet. in fact, intially you WILL be disconnected
[06:26] <Guddu> wolfric:  My only requirement to have internet is to be able to send some emails via SMTP using a Python script to some predefined emails. I can make a attempt to change stuff on router with some guidance and reading. This would be my first time doing it though.
[06:26] <wolfric> do you know what nat is?
[06:26] <wolfric> also, can you afford a home router? (an additional one)
[06:27] <Guddu> wolfric:  Buying a home router is ok....
[06:27] <Guddu> NAT..I just know the full form
[06:27] <wolfric> i've no idea what sort of router you currently have, but if it can do nat instead, great. if it can't a generic home router attached to it and then everyone connects to it would do the trick
[06:27] <tejpalsingh> hi
[06:28] <blackshirt> hi tejpalsingh
[06:28] <tejpalsingh> hi
[06:28] <wolfric> Guddu: basically instead of everyone getting a public ip, everyone gets a private ip on the local network and when you try connect to the internet, it translates on the fly the source and destination to make it look like all connections are coming from your public ip
[06:28] <wolfric> but it means if the internet goes, you still have your internal ips and they work. they can also be static to your hearts content
[06:28] <Guddu> wolfric:  That's exactly what i need :)
[06:29] <Guddu> wolfric:  The home router sits between the PC and the ISP Provided modem?
[06:29] <wolfric> well between everyone
[06:30] <wolfric> Guddu: you'd need everyone to connect to the home pc instead of the isp provided modem
[06:30] <BentFranklin> Want to run a job at startup.  Edit rc.local or use @reboot in crontab?
[06:30] <wolfric> to the home router*
[06:30] <Guddu> wolfric:  Sounds ok
[06:31] <wolfric> so you'd have <isp> --- <modem> --- <home router> --everyone on your local network
[06:31] <ebs512> it tells me I have no hosts available for my user so how do I create some?
[06:31] <wolfric> which if they're using wifi, would need to use the home router's wifi
[06:31] <Guddu> Ok
[06:31] <wolfric> ebs512: look on the website
[06:32] <wolfric> Guddu: if there's a store that has them near by, just ask if they have a wan port which is easiest
[06:32] <Guddu> wolfric:  In this setup, at what all places will i have to do manual configuration of IPs or things of that sort?
[06:32] <ebs512> well that's how I add them, how do I know which ones to add?
[06:32] <Myke974_> ubuntu server 12.04 => need help with microdia driver <= /microdia/sn9c20x-debugfs.c:183:12: error this module undeclared here (not in function)
[06:32] <wolfric> you plug an ethernet cable from the modem into the router,
[06:32] <Guddu> Ok
[06:33] <wolfric> Guddu: well if you go to the home router's config page (just put its private ip into a browser), it'll normally have a dhcp page with a predefined range
[06:33] <wolfric> that range will usually not fit the whole range of the subnet
[06:33] <Guddu> wolfric:  Ok....
[06:33] <wolfric> so for instance, you may have any ip from 192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.254 but dhcp only gives out the ranges of 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.200
[06:33] <Guddu> ok
[06:33] <wolfric> so just pick an ip outside of that range
[06:34] <fragmachine> hello?
[06:34] <ebs512> I'm not quite sure why I need no-ip to change desktops?
[06:34] <wolfric> ebs512: change desktops?
[06:34] <fragmachine> hey where is the system menu in 12.04?
[06:34] <wolfric> ebs512: you do realise we were suggesting Guddu use noip not you but since you were interested we just let you know the details
[06:35] <wolfric> fragmachine: gnome?
[06:35] <ebs512> oh lmao sorry about the confusion on my behalf, didn't realize lol
[06:35] <fragmachine> yes I think so, how do I check?
[06:36] <wolfric> fragmachine:  try applications menu and under the "other" heading
[06:36] <fragmachine> I don't have an applications menu
[06:36] <wolfric> fragmachine: did you previously have a systems menu..?
[06:37] <lauratika> does any one knows how to set autovpn?
[06:37] <fragmachine> wolfric: no I just installed ubuntu, I remember it being there on 11
[06:38] <wolfric> fragmachine: not here any more, try click the top right part of the screen
[06:38] <wolfric> the power button
[06:38] <wolfric> should be a settings bit there
[06:38] <wolfric> going by memory, don't use unity so i may be a little off
[06:38] <fragmachine> yea there is a icon there that lets me go to system settings
[06:38] <wolfric> the "applications places system" menu was a different desktop enviroment called gnome. The default has now switched to unity
[06:39] <wolfric> fragmachine: that what you were looking for?
[06:39] <fragmachine> oh ok
[06:39] <fragmachine> wolfric: no I wanted the old gnome bar
[06:39] <fragmachine> with applications and system etc
[06:41] <wolfric> fragmachine: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-classic-gnome-desktop-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise.html
[06:42] <ebs512> wolfric sorry to be a bother, I want to theme my ubuntu similar to this http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/ubuntu-12.04?before=1343608273 but not exactly, any idea how I can go about doing this, I think ActionParsnip told me conky or XFCE?
[06:42] <fragmachine> thanks wolfric I'll check it out
[06:44] <ix_> hello, what is the google/ubuntu start page?
[06:45] <ix_> I mean, what's the address?
[06:45] <Guddu> wolfric:  why do people prefer classic genome desktop? In comparson to Unity?
[06:46] <Meris> ebs512: Well, the dock is almost certainly docky, The widgets could be simulated with screenlets. The Unity bar will be quite hard to theme though. The window list above can probably be had through some Compiz-mod.
[06:47] <Meris> ebs512: conky is also a possibility instead of screenlets, it will fill the same functionality, that of of on-screen widgets.
[06:47] <ebs512> Meris, are all these modifications available through the ubuntu software center or the synaptic package manage?
[06:48] <s_ruan> hello
[06:48] <ebs512> manager*
[06:48] <Meris> ebs512: I don' t really know, I'm not that into theming myself, preferring a nonintrusive desktop environment like awesome, or more traditional: LXDE.
[06:50] <Meris> ebs512: Synaptic works much better if you want to find obscure programs. If they are not in the usual repos, you have a good chance of finding them as a ppa.
[06:50] <wolfric> ebs512: that looks like gnome 3 to me
[06:51] <wolfric> http://www.filiwiese.com/installing-gnome-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[06:51] <Meris> wolfram, the layout looks like Gnome3, but the bar on the left looks a bit like the Unity bar.
[06:51] <wolfric> Meris: it's not
[06:51] <Meris> wolfric^
[06:53] <wolfric> ebs512: just read what it says under the post and google "ubuntu 12.04 install " and whatevr it is
[06:53] <Meris> wolfram, I should have seen it, the Gnome footprint was a dead giveaway.
[06:53] <starbuck33> hi there, i just copy pasted a text and after that another text... but i made a mistake and now the first text is lost and since i already copied another text after that it isnt in the clipboard anymore, or is it anywhere? it would be very important for me to retrieve the first text somehow
[06:53] <GeekAdmin> Is running rkhunter & chkrootkit on a Desktop PC running Ubuntu 12.04 overboard or unnecessary?  There are no ports being forwarded and behind a firewall protected router..
[06:53] <ikonia> GeekAdmin: a total waste of time
[06:53] <wolfric> GeekAdmin: not at all
[06:54] <GeekAdmin> lol
[06:54] <wolfric> lol
[06:54] <GeekAdmin> so it is worth while?
[06:54] <wolfric> sure no harm
[06:54] <ikonia> no, a total waste of time and effort
[06:54] <GeekAdmin> haha k thanks
[06:54] <wolfric> i disagree
[06:54] <ikonia> and it will cause you more problems as you'll be concerned by the results
[06:54] <GeekAdmin> haha
[06:54] <GeekAdmin> yea I've noticed a lot of false positives with rkhunter especially
[06:55] <wolfric> run it as a cronjob when you're not doing anything
[06:55] <GeekAdmin> wolfric:  I probably will just for fun
[06:55] <ikonia> GeekAdmin: exactly, these are not valid tools to just run randomly
[06:55] <ikonia> GeekAdmin: you will get no benifit and cause your self concern.
[06:55] <wolfric> starbuck33: no sorry it's gone unless it was in something like libreoffice
[06:55] <ikonia> running a program to give you false positives is fun.....
[06:55] <ikonia> whatever
[06:55] <GeekAdmin> LOL
[06:56] <starbuck33> wolfric: no, just some text in gedit
[06:56] <wolfric> GeekAdmin: you're more likely to get hit with a browser/plugin exploit than through network services if it's a desktop
[06:56] <ikonia> and those tools will not detect it
[06:56] <GeekAdmin> oh I see
[06:56] <wolfric> starbuck33: then no, it's gone,
[06:56] <ikonia> so again - they are pointless
[06:57] <GeekAdmin> Is there anyway to detect a browser plugin exploit?
[06:57] <wolfric> ...???
[06:57] <wolfric> how the hell did you come to that conclusion by what i said
[06:57] <ikonia> GeekAdmin: just apply common sense to how you use the PC and you'll be fine
[06:57] <wolfric> exploits != rootkits
[06:57] <wolfric> ikonia: epic fail
[06:57] <ikonia> I didn't say they would, I siad those tools will not detect them....which they won't
[06:57] <skleya> s+
[06:58] <wolfric> that was true 10-15 hours ago perhaps
[06:58] <ikonia> 10-15 hours ago ? what ?
[06:58] <wolfric> you don't get infected now by running some .exe attachment
[06:58] <wolfric> 10-15 years sorry
[06:58] <Meris> wolfram, true, but exploits *can* lead to the installation of root kits after they have escalated permissions.
[06:58] <ikonia> what ????
[06:58] <wolfric> take the recent java vulnerability
[06:58] <ikonia> what are you talking about exe files
[06:58] <ikonia> this is linux
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> i fixxed a corrupt square mouse pointer on boot by adding 'nomodeset' to grub, but compiz disables and unworkable..howto fix this?
[06:58] <GeekAdmin> you can run exe in Linux :-p
[06:58] <GeekAdmin> with wine :-)
[06:58] <ikonia> no you can't
[06:58] <ikonia> you run them in wine
[06:58] <ikonia> that's not linux
[06:58] <wolfric> all you have to do is open a page that has a malicious plugin in it and you're owned
[06:59] <ikonia> it's an abstraction layer, that won't touch the OS
[06:59] <Meris> ikonia, linux is also vulnerable to the Java security leak, if you have the leaky version installed.
[06:59] <ikonia> utter nonsense
[06:59] <wolfric> ...
[06:59] <ikonia> Meris: yes, java is a risk
[06:59] <GeekAdmin> wait wine doesnt touch the OS?
[07:00] <ikonia> GeekAdmin: do whatever makes you feel happy and secure, if it's a wate of time and effort or not you don't seem bothered, so do whatever makes you feel happy.
[07:01] <itspriyank> does ubuntu 12.04 ships with Open JDk
[07:01] <ikonia> no
[07:01] <Meris> GeekAdmin: wine runs under normal user rights, so it can only affect the files writable by the user. You *could* run wine as root, but that would be utterly silly.
[07:01] <ikonia> java is not installed by default
[07:01] <wolfric> kind of bad advice also. kind of like saying "run updates or not" or "firwall or not" whatever makes you happy
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> howto fix this bug plz? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[07:02] <wolfric> ikonia: does that mean nobody has it?
[07:02] <itspriyank> easiest way of installing it then?
[07:02] <ikonia> wolfric: not running stupid rootkit scanneers, is nothing like saying "don't apply updates"
[07:02] <wolfric> my mistake, didn't see itspriyank question
[07:02] <Meris> ikonia, I do Java development, so I have JDK 7 installed.
[07:02] <ikonia> Meris: what ? I didn't ask anything about your java setup
[07:03] <Meris> ikonia, merely chiming in with wolfric about the question if it means that nobody has it.
[07:03] <itspriyank> Meris: how did you installed it?
[07:03] <wolfric> i'm not sure what you're missing here... security vulnerablities allow you to install malware, rkhunter and the likes can track down rootkits that may be installed from exploiting such vulnerablities so YES it is useful to run it
[07:04] <ikonia> I think there was confusion as I was redponing to itspriyank question of if ubuntu shipped with java
[07:04] <Meris> itspriyank: simply by downloading the appropriate package from java.com
[07:04] <ikonia> wolfric: they are based on signature files that are not updated on a regular basis, so provide more false positives and miss more genuine exploits than any value they add
[07:04] <ikonia> hence waste of time
[07:04] <ikonia> more so on distros like ubuntu that change every 6 months
[07:05] <gordonjcp> ikonia: right, but many of the basic heuristics hold up
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> guys..offtopic?
[07:05] <gordonjcp> ikonia: looking for a directory somewhere called "..." with executables in it
[07:05] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: correct
[07:05] <Meris> lotuspsychje: true...
[07:05] <wolfric> ikonia: you could say the same about any anti virus really
[07:06] <itspriyank> Meris: Should I follow this method : http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7 ?
[07:06] <ikonia> wolfric: depends on the virus softare, but on linux, I do say the same...it's pointless
[07:06] <Meris> brb. Got called to breakfast :-)
[07:06] <ikonia> but this should continue in #ubuntu-offtopic as lotuspsychje rightly pointed out
[07:06] <wolfric> plus don't underestimate the amount of malicious payloads that don't even make an effort to be different than the usual
[07:08] <wolfric> anyway, we shall leave it on, i think it's useful, you don't think it is, I think running a cronjob and diffing the results would definitely give you a heads up if something was a miss GeekAdmin
[07:08] <GeekAdmin> wolfric:  thanks so much for your opinion in this. That goes for everyone
[07:09] <gordonjcp> wolfric: antivirus software *is* pointless...
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> is it normal for 'nomodeset' to disable compiz features?
[07:15] <linocisco> hi all, I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters%2FCanonPrinters%2FLBP3010 to installl my LBP3050 on ubuntu. but Mine is ubuntu-server, could anyone advice me how to?
[07:16] <ikonia> linocisco: the process should be the same
[07:16] <linocisco> ikonia, there is no System->Administration->Printing in ubuntu server
[07:17] <ikonia> linocisco: that shouldn't stop you doing the actual install
[07:18] <linocisco> ikonia, how can I find System->Administration->Printing in ubuntu server?
[07:21] <x_> anyone know how to get gpu utilization to show under nvidia-smi?
[07:21] <hateball> linocisco: you can administer CUPS by browsing to http://machine.ip:631
[07:22] <hateball> linocisco: if you have another machine on the network handy, otherwise it's a bit more... annoying
[07:22] <linocisco> thanks
[07:22] <linocisco> hateball, thanks
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> LiDaR:hi mate
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> lol$
[07:30] <Zorlin> so I have a 64-bit system running 64-bit ubuntu server
[07:30] <Zorlin> I'm trying to run Xen VMs under it
[07:31] <Zorlin> when I boot it into dom0 mode, my RAM basically halves
[07:31] <Zorlin> I've got 8GB, it cuts down to around 3-3.5GB
[07:31] <Zorlin> any ideas as to what I can do? cutting dom0 to 512MB of RAM didn't help
[07:31] <ikonia> look at what process is taking the ram
[07:40] <Zorlin> ikonia: no process is taking the RAM as far as I can tell
[07:40] <Zorlin> ikonia: "free" says *total* RAM is anywhere from 512MB to 1GB for dom0 depending on config
[07:40] <Zorlin> (which doesn't include RAM available to the Xen hypervisor)
[07:40] <Zorlin> the hypervisor reports ~3GB as being available
[07:41] <Zorlin> (including dom0)
[07:42] <mindbender1> how can I find the maintainers of ubuntu module like modem?
[07:46] <linocisco> found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/PrinterSharing is outdated
[07:46] <linocisco> which one is updated?
[07:47] <xmen> hola
[07:49] <Samizdat> I'm trying to install a wifi driver and getting this message: make -C /lib/modules/3.5.0-030500-generic/build M=/home/gk/Desktop/rtl_92ce_92se_92de_linux_mac80211_0005.1230.2011 modules make: *** /lib/modules/3.5.0-030500-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. make: *** [all] Error 2
[07:50] <Samizdat> Is there anything to be done?
[07:51] <crimsonmane> how are you installing it?
[07:51] <Samizdat> With "sudo make"
[07:51] <mindbender1> Samizdat: check if you have a dir /lib/modules
[07:52] <Samizdat> I do.
[07:52] <crimsonmane> Samizdat: why dont you look into ndiswrapper - it's specifically for installing wifi drivers
[07:52] <Samizdat> What is it?
[07:53] <Samizdat> Ah, will try it out.
[07:56] <revenge2> ciao
[07:56] <Samizdat> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/gk/Desktop/ndiswrapper-1.58rc1/driver' Makefile:36: *** Cannot find kernel version in /lib/modules/3.5.0-030500-generic/build, is it configured?.  Stop.
[07:57] <Samizdat> Seems to be the same issue.
[07:58] <crimsonmane> idunno if you're using the tool correctly
[07:58] <Samizdat> I dl'd it, switched to its location, ran "make".
[07:58] <crimsonmane> no
[07:59] <crimsonmane> it's a program. you run it, browse to the driver file, and click Go
[08:00] <Samizdat> Oh, I was following these instructions: http://www.bgevolution.com/blog/ndiswrapper-ubuntu-wifi-in-4-easy-steps/
[08:01] <crimsonmane> use your software manager to get ndiswrapper
[08:10] <Samizdat> I don't think I want to use ndiswrapper.  There is a linux driver released.
[08:10] <Samizdat> It forces a windows' driver to work.
[08:20] <mathias__> ola
[08:20] <mathias__> hola
[08:20] <mathias__> Como les va?
[08:20] <mathias__> alguien me contesta?
[08:21] <Myke974_> hey there ! any clue why 2 wecams i'm using are displaying green screen with parasites?
[08:26] <AC1D> help me plz , that an error,
[08:26] <AC1D> debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: No such file or directory
[08:26] <AC1D> Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[08:26] <AC1D> dpkg: error: cannot read info directory: No such file or directory
[08:26] <AC1D> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[08:28] <AC1D> I used a lot of different solutions
[08:29] <AC1D> I used a lot of different solutions, but what did not work
[08:31] <dsfg> oufff varethika
[08:35] <dsfg> peste kati re paidia
[08:35] <dsfg> giati de milate?
[08:36] <dsfg> polu mougka re cs
[08:36] <dsfg> axrizo kai barieme
[08:36] <dsfg> xoris plaka
[08:37] <livingdaylight> is virtual box in repositories the best was to go for virtualization? been a long time since I looked at this
[08:37]  * dsfg slaps livingdaylight around a bit with a large trout
[08:38] <livingdaylight> dsfg, *_*
[08:38] <dsfg> :o
[08:38] <dsfg> re file kaneis de milaei edw?
[08:38] <dsfg> pws thn palebete?
[08:42]  * dsfg slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:42]  * dsfg slaps FloodBot2 around a bit with a large trout
[08:42]  * dsfg slaps FloodBot3 around a bit with a large trout
[08:42]  * dsfg slaps 21WAAFEW9 around a bit with a large trout
[08:42]  * dsfg slaps [CSI]Octane around a bit with a large trout
[08:42] <FloodBot1> dsfg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42]  * dsfg slaps [Derek] around a bit with a large trout
[08:45] <fleurtherock> buongiorno a tutti
[08:49] <shaladore> any one can tell me what i can do to manage my network connection in ubuntu server 12.04.1
[08:50] <Auzy> shaladore, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html
[08:50] <shaladore> thank you Auzy
[08:51] <Auzy> and generally, I use Shorewall as my firewall shaladore
[08:51] <shaladore> I thought about that is that a ppa or a package from ubuntu?
[08:51] <Auzy> shorewall is what I'm familiar with, is easyish to configure (you can just grab the example), and its iptables anyway
[08:51] <Samizdat> Does anyone know how to fix this: make -C /lib/modules/3.5.0-030500-generic/build M=/home/gk/Desktop/rtl_92ce_92se_92de_linux_mac80211_0005.1230.2011 modules make: *** /lib/modules/3.5.0-030500-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[08:51] <Auzy> Dunno.. I run Debian on my server.. should be a package though
[08:52] <shaladore> thanks I will check into that as well.. appreciate it! ;-)
[08:52] <Auzy> Samizdat, Could be anything.. apt-get install build-essential?
[08:52] <Samizdat> Already got that.
[08:53] <Auzy> More info would probably be needed..Could pastebin the full thing..
[08:53] <Auzy> Also, ensure you have kernel headers installed..
[08:54] <Samizdat> I believe I do.  How could I tell for certain?
[08:54] <Samizdat> And that's basically the whole thing.
[08:55] <Auzy> Check in software center? Could be a lot of things.. Maybe best to ask in the forum for that module..
[08:55] <Samizdat> http://pastebin.com/cchfvUR7
[08:56] <Auzy> dunno.. make sure you have kernel source installed, but, maybe you need to ./configure
[08:57] <luftikuss> Why does my Ubuntu 12.04.1 not produce any sound in the video »Autohide Top Bar for GNOME Shell« of http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/gnome-shell-autohide-top-bar-for-gnome.html? aplay works all right and Banshee also.
[08:58] <Auzy> Samizdat, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1944493 might help..
[08:58] <manners13> hey guys
[08:58] <manners13> i have a usb drive plugged into a netbook with ubuntu on sharing files via samba
[08:59] <manners13> yesterday i done the precise upgrade and after i could not get into 1 directory on the drive
[08:59] <manners13> or sorry i could but it displayed as empty
[08:59] <luftikuss> !Enter | manners13
[09:00] <manners13> i removed the drive from my loft and plugged into my windows 7 machine, iv now managed to move all the videos into another folder so they can be seen from my machine again however i still cant delete the original folder
[09:00] <nandhu> hi how to add a short cut key in metacity .. eg: i need to add ctrl+alt+o to open a library office
[09:00] <timfrost> Samizdat: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic - will ensure that headers for the current installed kernel will be available
[09:01] <manners13> iv tried using the command sudo rm -r /media/Elements/Childrens/ but it says the directory does not exist however when i ls i can see it there
[09:02] <Samizdat> Will try.
[09:02] <Samizdat> Thanks all.
[09:02] <luftikuss> nandhu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[09:05] <jake443> what is the extended partition used for ?
[09:06] <Atlantic777> jake443: it's used when you want/need more thatn 4 partitions.
[09:06] <Atlantic777> When you make a extended partition, you can make 16 logic partitions in it.
[09:06] <timfrost> manners13: check for non-printing characters such as spaces in the directory name with ' ls -b /media/Elements/', which will print the escape codes for them
[09:06] <jake443> i don't understand it
[09:06] <jake443> i have 1 partition and i want all spaces in that 1 partition
[09:07] <jake443> i have parimary parition then extend then swap parition
[09:07] <Atlantic777> jake443: there are primary and logic partitions. In partition table there's place for only 4 partitions (size of them doesn't matter, just count). If you make a extended partition (which counts as primary), you then make logic partitions in it.
[09:07] <jake443> so basiclly i used a single parition
[09:07] <jake443> what happens if i remove it ?
[09:08] <Atlantic777> you lose logic partitions in it, together with data
[09:08] <jake443> it's a 500MB extend partition
[09:08] <jake443> i don't want it
[09:08] <jake443> nothing in it
[09:08] <Atlantic777> what "df" tells you? can you paste it?
[09:08] <tsimpson> jake443: that likely is where your swap partition is, which would be taking up those 500MB
[09:08] <jake443> i never used it once.. ubuntu created extended parition
[09:08] <jake443> i have 1 logical parimiary parition for the OS only
[09:09] <Atlantic777> logical primary partitions? what would that be? :D
[09:09] <jake443> tsimpson yes my man.. i have 500MB extended and 500MB swap
[09:09] <jake443> altantic i am a windows user
[09:09] <jake443> you either help me or i'm going back
[09:09] <tsimpson> jake443: threats like that get you nowhere fast
[09:10] <jake443> i DON'T want extended parition because i use only 1 parition on this PC
[09:10] <Atlantic777> jake443: it's the same on the windows. Open terminal and write "df". Copy output of that command on paste.ubuntu.com
[09:10] <tsimpson> the swap partition is actually in the same disk space as the extended partition, it's just saying that you only have the swap on there
[09:10] <jake443> and i will never parition this space because the space is little .. not much
[09:10] <gordonjcp> jake443: in Linux, you use multiple partitions
[09:10] <jake443> ok i don't want extended.. what happens if i remove it ?
[09:10] <tsimpson> jake443: you do have a partition there, the swap partition
[09:10] <ikonia> jake443: why don't you want extended ?
[09:10] <gordonjcp> jake443: then you only get to have four partitions
[09:10] <ikonia> jake443: what's the problem with using an extended partition ?
[09:10] <jake443> i don't want swap too
[09:10] <jake443> i have it disable it
[09:11] <tsimpson> jake443: why don't you want swap?
[09:11] <gordonjcp> jake443: that's not a good idea
[09:11] <jake443> but partition is not removed
[09:11] <jake443> i don't care!! i run 1 program on it all the time
[09:11] <gordonjcp> jake443: are you using something like an SD card?
[09:11] <jake443> ONE Program
[09:11] <jake443> yeah limited time
[09:11] <tsimpson> you are always running more than one
[09:11] <jake443> services yeah but only 1 program running
[09:12] <ikonia> jake443: is there a reason you don't want to use an extended partition ?
[09:12] <Atlantic777> extended partition is just place *in which* you can put other partitions. If you remote the place, you lose partitions too. Rremoving swap partition can be fixed with swap file or with creating new partition, if it is swap in extended.
[09:12] <jake443> ikonia to recover that lost space
[09:12] <gordonjcp> jake443: okay, stop a minute; things are very different in Linux from Windows
[09:12] <jake443> i want to resize the swap from 500MB to 100MB
[09:12] <jake443> and remove extended
[09:12] <ikonia> jake443: the space isn't lost, it's in the extended partition.
[09:12] <tsimpson> if you desperately want to claim back those 500MB, then you should repartition
[09:12] <Atlantic777> but it's not lost
[09:12] <ikonia> ok, I'll back away as I don't think I understand.
[09:12] <gordonjcp> jake443: you should have as much swap as you have RAM
[09:12] <Atlantic777> at least as much
[09:12] <jake443> o god
[09:13] <gordonjcp> jake443: stop a minute, what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:13] <gordonjcp> jake443: explain it from the beginning
[09:13] <jake443> i have 6GB partition. IT SAYS 500GB extened and 500 swap
[09:14] <nibbler_> gordonjcp, one should have as much swap as he needs, any "factor X on RAM" rules are nonsens... if i was living fine with 4GB RAM and hardly every used my swap, why would i upgrade to 8GB swap if i upgrade my ram?
[09:14] <jake443> i want to remove extended and resize swap from 500MB to 100MB
[09:14] <jake443> finish
[09:14] <jake443> what do i use linux for ? for serious stuff.. no videos no audios nothing
[09:14] <nibbler_> jake443, just remove swap, repartition, add swap?
[09:14] <ozette> Ok, no funny jokes but - What's the best way to get Internet Explorer to run on Ubuntu (preferably no vm)
[09:14] <jake443> you are seriuous to help tell me
[09:14] <jake443> you can't i will go somewehre els
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> ozette  wine
[09:14] <nibbler_> ozette, if no vm, then iwne
[09:14] <nibbler_> wine
[09:15] <tsimpson> ozette: wine, but don't expect it to work in any meaningful way
[09:15] <Gxps> hello there, I am using Ubuntu 12.04 on an usb memstick made from unetbootin, seems to work well. though I have probs with wifi toiconnect to my accesspoint through WPS.. how do I manage to hook up through WPS with ubuntu ?
[09:15] <ozette> hmm
[09:15] <ozette> ok
[09:15] <ozette> thanks
[09:15] <ozette> I just need it for web dev.
[09:16] <gordonjcp> jake443: feel free to go somewhere else, if that's your attitude
[09:16] <aidanjt> jake443: you can use the ubuntu installer cd to start gparted to delete the swap and extended partitions, shrink the root partition if you must make more room for swap, and create a swap partition
[09:16] <ikonia> ozette: you'll get more realisitic test results from running it within a virtual machine
[09:16] <tsimpson> ozette: I'd have to say your best bet is to use a VM, IE is hooked deep into the WIN API, and so the shortcomings of wine really show through
[09:17] <gordonjcp> ozette: there used to be a thing called "ies4linux" which wrapped wine with a custom installer
[09:17] <jake443> aidanjt what happens if i delete swap and extended ? will ubuntu boot?
[09:17] <gordonjcp> ozette: it was extremely good, but I don't know if it's still on the go
[09:17] <jake443> because i'm in the gparted screen right now
[09:17] <hfic> jake443, it's not recommended to completely remove swap partitions.
[09:17] <gordonjcp> jake443: it should still boot *if* swap is the only thing in the extended partition
[09:17] <Gxps> am I missing something special to be able to make the laptop to hook up the wifi through WPS ?
[09:18] <ikonia> Gxps: is it a live install or a "disk" install
[09:18] <gordonjcp> jake443: the space taken up by the extended partition will be lost
[09:18] <ikonia> eg: are you running it live, or from a hard disk install
[09:18] <Atlantic777> jake443: can you post a screenshot of the gparted screen you are looking at?
[09:19] <Atlantic777> of copy output of command "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:19] <jake443> IT'S a green rectangle with yellow rectangle inside of it
[09:19] <Atlantic777> great, can you post it somewhere?
[09:19] <Gxps> ikonia its a live install i think , i took the .iso for 32 bits , and used unetbootin tocreate a live usb, im using the "try on" since I dont wanna install it yet
[09:19] <jake443> outside is extended hwich is green. inside yellow which is swap
[09:20] <jake443> both are 1 part
[09:20] <hfic> jake443, people want to see what your looking at. Please post it at img or somewhere else free and easy to share your screen shot of gparted.
[09:20] <ikonia> Gxps: what wifi card is it
[09:20] <jake443> how can i hfic if the DAMN thing is GPARTED !!
[09:21] <hfic> jake443, It's called a screen shot and an upload. I would watch the way you speak to people in this channel.
[09:21] <aidanjt> jake443: press "Print Screen", save the file, open browser, go to imgur.com, upload image
[09:21] <Gxps> ikonia , not sure its a samsung n140
[09:21] <jake443> network card is not working right now
[09:22] <Gxps> ikonia , not sure its a samsung n140, imean the laptop
[09:22] <jake443> i will do my own research
[09:22] <aidanjt> jake443: thumbstick the image file?
[09:22] <jake443> 15 minutes lost
[09:22] <jake443> cya
[09:22]  * aidanjt blinks
[09:22] <Atlantic777> jake443: ok, nevermind, I think I got it, it's like other said. Just resize swap and extended partition, then resize other partition you want to make larger and apply the changes.
[09:22] <hfic> Atlantic777, he left
[09:23] <hfic> He should stay on windows
[09:23] <aidanjt> what an ass
[09:23] <aidanjt> hfic: no kidding
[09:23]  * hfic agree
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[09:23] <amr_> Hi all, I can't get gnome 3.4 work on my ubutnu 12, any help please ...?
[09:23] <gordonjcp> Airplane quote
[09:23] <Atlantic777> Oh, I see, he'll do his own research. :D
[09:23] <venu> hi, i did a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 lts server
[09:23] <hfic> !detail | amr_
[09:23] <venu> but i am not able to do apt-get update
[09:23] <hfic> bah
[09:23] <hfic> !details
[09:23] <aidanjt> Atlantic777: yeah, that'll go well
[09:24] <cherva> can i safely delete everything in ~/.cache
[09:24] <gordonjcp> cherva: yes
[09:24] <amr_> hfic: i have the login but when I log to gnome I didn't see the normal interface of gnome 3.4 just normal panel at top and button not 3.4
[09:25] <amr_> hfic: here is full details http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12214542#post12214542
[09:25] <AdvoWork> i'm trying to get internet working on an old installation of Ubuntu(it needs to be old for a migration). lspci says: Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 10c0 (rev 02)  how can I install that driver or get it working?
[09:25] <amr_> Please help me install gnome 3.4 on ubuntu 12, here is full details for my problem >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12214542#post12214542
[09:25] <ebs512> I am having an issue with trying to get theming ubuntu just right, I am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS, I have about 2 different settings to allow me to change themes and I'm not sure if having more than 1 is messing up the theme or what, trying a gtk+3 theme on ubuntu 2d, not sure if that is an issue either but could someone please help me get this setup?
[09:25] <cherva> gordonjcp, thanxk
[09:25] <cherva> gordonjcp, thanks
[09:27] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: the driver is in kernel and I would not recommend you to compile kernel by yourself if you aren't experienced user. Can you post ID of that device which lspci is reported?
[09:27] <think> hello
[09:28] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: try this site, too. It's probably good point to start with. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[09:28] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, the id(i think thats what you want) is: 0000:00:19.0 ?
[09:29] <paaaawerrr> Hi exist program like GetRight for Linux?
[09:29] <Atlantic777> paaaawerrr: what that program does?
[09:30] <brontosaurusrex> automagically seraches for file mirrors around the web and does multisite downloads
[09:30] <brontosaurusrex> getright that is
[09:30] <paaaawerrr> GetRight -> transfer menagement / increse transfer ( for ex. downloading file from HTTP/FTP from many sources ( that increse download speed)
[09:30] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, this is for ubuntu 6.06 (i know v.v old) but I need to be able to get the internet working on it
[09:31] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: that makes sense. :D Ubuntu 6.06 uses old kernel which probably doesn't have the driver you need. Why do you need working internet connection in it?
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> paaaawerrr  ubuntu has its own repos, windows doesnt
[09:31] <Gxps> okay i checked with lspci : 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01
[09:31] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, I need to do a migration, and install some software, that only works with active connections, any suggestions
[09:31] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: wouldn't booting live session and connecting to internet help?
[09:32] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, i'd need a normal session to be able to do further installations of software?
[09:32] <paaaawerrr> Mknkey u dont understand, i want to download Ubuntu 12.04.01 DVD from FTP but download speed is 50-60kb/s... i want add other sources from otgher servers ( this same file), from 5 server download speed is 5x-60-60kb/s....
[09:32] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: you can install software in live session, too. It's just not permanent (if you are booting from CD)
[09:32] <paaaawerrr> this do GetRight
[09:33] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, the upgrade/backup/restore takes 16+ hours though, so my worry is live session failing = a lot of lost work. Is there any other ways to get the driver installed?
[09:33] <MonkeyDust> paaaawerrr  then it must be available somewhere you want
[09:34] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: actually, you may compile that module for your kernel, but it probably wouldn't go as easy as you and me want.
[09:34] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: another reasonable thing I would consider is buying an cheap network interface controler. :)
[09:35] <paaaawerrr> Mokey on WIndows im downloading by GetRight OpenSuSe ( for testing), open suse hostes has max 250kb/s, so im downloading from 8 server this same file , so 8x250kb/s = 2mb/s :) This same file from 8 sources as one File... This do GetRight... so i ask about this same program but like, on Ubuntu
[09:36] <brontosaurusrex> paaaawerrr, workaround is to dl isos with torrent
[09:36] <paaaawerrr> my ISP blocking torrent ports!
[09:36] <brontosaurusrex> ok
[09:37] <luftikuss> Why does my Ubuntu 12.04.1 not produce any sound in the video »Autohide Top Bar for GNOME Shell« of http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/gnome-shell-autohide-top-bar-for-gnome.html? aplay works all right and Banshee also.
[09:37] <aidanjt> paaaawerrr: I would get that rate from the heanet.ie mirror.. but it really smells like your ISP is just being cheap and crappy
[09:37] <hfic> paaaawerrr, so use a proxy or change the torrent ports.
[09:37] <paaaawerrr> so i cannot play WoT and WOW-.-
[09:37] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, any instructions for compiling the kernel with that correct driver?
[09:37] <paaaawerrr> No.. im pay my ISP ~10 US$ for 50mbps
[09:38] <paaaawerrr> without limits, but torrents are blocked... idk why...
[09:39] <hfic> paaaawerrr, it's not a secret that some isps block certain ports, including torrent port ranges. Either use a proxy to get around that or change the ports on the torrent client.
[09:40] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: yes... don't do it. :D You need to find out correct name of driver you need, get source code, prepare build environment, make those .ko files, modprobe it and hope it will work. I would ask on linux kernel mailing list, too (LKML). Can you boot some live session and check which driver is needed for that ethernet card with "lspci -knn | grep -i ether -A 3"
[09:40] <Gxps> hmm ath9k is supposed to support my wifi so isnt WPS supposed to work then ?
[09:40] <paaaawerrr> No... proxy are bloked... ( 80% ), TOR (100% blocked)
[09:40] <Gxps> stillim asked for a passphrase..
[09:41] <aidanjt> paaaawerrr: right, 50mbps to them, but that doesn't stop them from throttling your internet bandwidth, I mean if they're blocking torrents then clearly they have an internal policy of interfering with heavy bandwidth use
[09:42] <Atlantic777> paaaawerrr: http://www.esotechnica.co.uk/2010/07/linux-getrigh/
[09:42] <ferni> they might be using some fancy torrent blocking thing, try setting encryption required from your torrent client
[09:42] <paaaawerrr> no.... my friend has 512kbps / 0,5$ and also are blocked torrents port...
[09:42] <brontosaurusrex> paaaawerrr, so change your sillly provider
[09:42] <hfic> !ot
[09:43] <paaaawerrr> brodro, i cannot , im my 120.000++ city is only one provider... -.-
[09:44] <ozette> Is there a way to find the name of the domain in my workgroup?
[09:44] <ozette> I'm trying to connect to a samba workgroup
[09:44] <hfic> ozette, the name is set in smb.conf
[09:45] <velho> GOOD MORNING :) anyone whant's tea?
[09:45] <aidanjt> velho: I never say no to a cuppa
[09:46] <velho> I'm trying to configure two monitors, but I cannot see the right resolution for the second monitor. please help
[09:46] <velho> aidanjt, i LOVE tea :)
[09:46] <ozette> ahh thanks hfic
[09:46] <ozette> hfic, thanks*
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> velho  there's xrandr and arandr
[09:47] <darknyss> My default language changed to chinese..
[09:47] <darknyss> chinese
[09:47] <Atlantic777> velho: what's the problem? Are there resoulutions you want when you run plain "xrandr" command?
[09:47] <darknyss> how do i fix this
[09:48] <SAngeli> Hi, I have a "mdadm" question. I have an existing ubuntu server with three hd (two identical one for radi and the third one for system) . sda and adb are the two hd for creating a raid-1. When creating a Linux array poing using this command "fdisk /dev/sdb" can I change the sdb into sd1 or should always be sdb?
[09:48] <velho> MonkeyDust, Atlantic777 I'm using the system definitions window. is that a command to run on the terminal? how can I run it?
[09:48] <e66_> In my Ubuntu when I right click on the top panel i dont see any menu? how can i add netspeed if no menu is shown?
[09:49] <Atlantic777> velho: just open terminal (you can do it with ctrl + alt + t) and run xrandr command.
[09:49] <Atlantic777> see if there are resolutions you want
[09:50] <aidanjt> SAngeli: both are possible, but by convention the normal way is to give each disk a partition with the type 'fd'
[09:50] <darknyss> My default language is Chinese on Ubuntu 12.04 ; Please help?!?
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> !info arandr > velho
[09:51] <Atlantic777> darknyss: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133318/how-do-i-change-the-language-via-a-terminal
[09:51] <velho> MonkeyDust, Atlantic777 typed the command xrandr
[09:52] <velho> what to do now?
[09:52] <SAngeli> aidanjt, sure. Another question: reading the guide I noticed that if an hd fails the array stops working. Is this correct? I wish to know if is possible to let the array keep running and also being notified asap via email of this
[09:52] <Atlantic777> velho: and you didn't answer me, is there resoulution you need in the output of that command?
[09:52] <aidanjt> SAngeli: nope, the array will keep going, the system should even be bootable
[09:52] <Guest3899> Voila Testing !!
[09:53] <Atlantic777> Guest3899: maybe you would like to join the #test chan.
[09:53] <SAngeli> aidanjt, cool. as for being notified via email? where can I learn more about mdadm and ubuntu?
[09:53] <aidanjt> SAngeli: all 3 of my disks are in a raid5 array and linux just boots off it
[09:53] <velho> Atlantic777, sorry! no, I think the resolution I need is not here. I have a swuare screen
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> !raid | SAngeli
[09:53] <e66_> how can I add applet to unity top bar
[09:53] <SAngeli> MonkeyDust, thank you
[09:54] <Atlantic777> velho: can you send output of "lspci -knn | grep -i vga -A 3" ?
[09:54] <aidanjt> SAngeli: edit /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and change the MAILADDR
[09:54] <velho> Atlantic777, and all these resolutions are for 16:9, I think
[09:54] <velho> Atlantic777, how can I do that? sorry, I'm new to this
[09:54] <SAngeli> yes, I have all these written dow. I will implement in few minutes all these. I needed to understand.
[09:54] <SAngeli> I will later read the email part.
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> velho  did you see ubottu 's private message?
[09:55] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, can i use any live cd, or does it have to be an old version of ubuntu im using?
[09:55] <velho> NO! gonna read it :)
[09:55] <Atlantic777> velho: just copy that command I gave you into terminal window.
[09:55] <SAngeli> aidanjt, I will use ext4 as filesystem. As I have to interface it with windows will it be better to use SAMBA (Known to be a slow protocol) or iscsi? I wish to have fastest net connection
[09:56] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: try with new and see if there is driver you need, which driver you need and then we can look how to get it on 6.06
[09:56] <Atlantic777> velho: btw, copy/paste is ctrl + shift + c and ctrl + shift + v when you work with terminal.
[09:56] <ThinkT510> !6.06
[09:57] <velho> Atlantic777, ok, done :) what now?
[09:57] <Atlantic777> velho: copy that three lines here.
[09:57] <HadiM> hello
[09:57] <velho> Atlantic777, OK!
[09:57] <HadiM> I have a serious problem with dpkg / apt / aptitude
[09:57] <aidanjt> SAngeli: depends, iSCSI is block protocol, so you'd have to point it to an lvm volume, or a dd'd file image or some such and format it with ntfs.. samba is a file-level protocol which is less of a hassle since everything sits on top of the ext4 partition and usable by both systems
[09:57] <velho> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] [1002:9480]
[09:57] <velho> 	Subsystem: COMPAL Electronics Inc Device [14c0:003e]
[09:57] <velho> 	Kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci
[09:57] <velho> 	Kernel modules: fglrx, radeon
[09:58] <seeker> hi, I'm trying to figure out the best way to keep up with chromium updates. the chromium team ppa seems to be no longer updated
[09:58] <SAngeli> aidanjt, is samba slow protocol compared to ISCSI?
[09:58] <Atlantic777> velho: that looks ok. :/
[09:59] <aidanjt> SAngeli: there might be a slight bit of overhead, but in my experience samba is able to keep up with gigabit ethernet
[09:59] <SAngeli> ok, will try and see
[09:59] <opalepatrick> anyone know how to add html5 synatx highlighting in bluefish 2.2?
[09:59] <velho> Atlantic777, so how can I recognize the second screen? :/
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> velho  keep it in the channel, what ubottu says, is that there's a GUI for xrandr, called arandr, you can install it
[10:00] <Atlantic777> velho: wait, are just resolutions wront or you can't even see second screen?
[10:00] <SAngeli> aidanjt, if I wish to use iSCSI after having created a raid-1 array I assume I have to change type of filesystem. So, rather than creating a ext4 what should I create? Or better is there a iSCSI ubuntu guide to follow in relation to raid-1?
[10:00] <SAngeli> I hope I properly asked this question
[10:00] <aether> [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] [1002:9480 nice card!
[10:01] <velho> Atlantic777, I CAN see the second screen, I just cannot recognize it to a configurable resolution. There's no Image. But the system knows the screen is on.
[10:02] <aidanjt> SAngeli: you'd really point the iscsi target to the new raid device node.. but keep in mind that iscsi requires exclusive access, unlike samba which can handle many clients..
[10:02] <user14> Hello. Which filesystem is better for / and /home? In what order is it better to partition the disk? Do I need to use 50 Gb / partition or 30 Gb is enough?
[10:02] <velho> MonkeyDust, ok!
[10:02] <SAngeli> ok
[10:03] <fujisan> hi
[10:03] <fujisan> i love ubuntu
[10:03] <fujisan> ty all for coding it
[10:04] <HadiM>  I have a serious problem with dpkg / apt / aptitude
[10:04] <fujisan> get a mac HadiM  :)
[10:04] <aidanjt> user14: ext4 is generally suitable for both..
[10:04] <HadiM> i got an infinite loop when install or remove kernel
[10:04] <velho> MonkeyDust, installed it, but it doesn't recognise the second screen. Ubuntu default program recognise it, but there's no image :/
[10:05] <user14> aidanjt, and how faster is it comparing to ext3?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  what command do you use?
[10:06] <HadiM> sudo dpkg -i *deb
[10:07] <HadiM> hadim boromir 3.6-rc3 $ ls
[10:07] <HadiM> linux-headers-3.6.0-030600rc3_3.6.0-030600rc3.201208221735_all.deb
[10:07] <HadiM> linux-headers-3.6.0-030600rc3-generic_3.6.0-030600rc3.201208221735_amd64.deb
[10:07] <HadiM> linux-image-3.6.0-030600rc3-generic_3.6.0-030600rc3.201208221735_amd64.deb
[10:07] <HadiM> linux-image-extra-3.6.0-030600rc3-generic_3.6.0-030600rc3.201208221735_amd64.de
[10:07] <FloodBot1> HadiM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <HadiM> sorry
[10:07] <HadiM> http://pastebin.com/iAx5nGd4
[10:07] <aidanjt> user14: depends on the workload, most things are a bit faster, some slightly slower, some quiet a bit faster, different horses for different courses.. xfs is considered very fast with whopping big media files
[10:08] <aidanjt> *quite a bit sorry
[10:08] <HadiM> http://pastebin.com/7Ju2DWfq
[10:09] <HadiM> now when i want to use apt-get or similar command I got this : E: The package linux-image-3.5.0-030500-generic needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:09] <user14> aidanjt, no prob, I'm looking more for stability than speed actually.
[10:10] <velho> Atlantic777, MonkeyDust , now I see the screen with Arandr and the image, But I cannot put them side by side. How to incrise the space size=
[10:10] <velho> ?
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[10:10] <aidanjt> user14: yeah I haven't had any problems with ext4, it's a fairly sane default fs
[10:10] <Atlantic777> velho: that's size of virtual screen. Do you use xorg.conf?
[10:10] <velho> Atlantic777, probably not, since I don't know what that is :)
[10:11] <user14> aidanjt, alright, I'll use ext4 for both then. What about / partition size?
[10:11] <HadiM> MonkeyDust:  Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[10:11] <Atlantic777> velho: "ls /etc/X11 | grep xorg.conf"
[10:11] <aidanjt> user14: I haven't needed any more than ~16GB really, depends on how much you use /tmp mostly
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  the latest supported kernel for 12.04 is 3.2
[10:11] <SAngeli> I have another simple issue: I installed ubuntu server in Italian. how to solve issues with outpt messages like these: non contiene nÃ© una tabella ?
[10:12] <velho> Atlantic777, done. and now?
[10:12] <SAngeli> I wish to solve this globally and not for a user
[10:12] <HadiM> yep I know but I got some intel problem with my laptopt (vaio Z2)
[10:12] <HadiM> kernel 3.6 and 3.5 work better
[10:12] <HadiM> anyway that is not the problem, the problem is ap-get / dpkg are broken
[10:12] <joobie> hey guys.. freesh install of ubuntu alternatives on 4 x 3TB HDD's.. i have md0 which is root and md1 which is swap. I reboot, then i get the grub-rescue prompt.. what's up wiht that?
[10:13] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, finally got a live cd booted. It lists a few different entries, is there anything specific you need to know from me?
[10:13] <HadiM> there is a way to fix it ?
[10:13] <joobie> im reading all this jazz about GPT and bios boot.. why doesnt ubuntu handle this natively?
[10:13] <equex> if i add a filter in synaptic saying 'Description' 'Includes' 'KDE' shouldnt that filter packages with 'KDE" in the package list ? i cant get it to work./..
[10:13] <aidanjt> SAngeli: try #ubuntu-it ?.. I'm sure they'd have more practice with Italian localisation issues
[10:13] <user14> aidanjt, so 30 Gb will probably be enough. Thanks for answering!
[10:13] <Project2501> Hi all. I'd like to run ubuntu server with blackbox and xbmc. Would this be possible?
[10:13] <aidanjt> user14: no problem
[10:13] <Atlantic777> AdvoWork: yes, the most important... is your network card working with newer ubuntu?
[10:13] <velho> Atlantic777, the text "xorg.conf" appeared. but the problem remains. What was that command for?
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  try installing something else, some small app or so, so if you get the same error
[10:13] <SAngeli> aidanjt, thanks
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  so = see
[10:14] <HadiM> yep I got the same
[10:14] <HadiM> for install / remove / upgrade commands
[10:14] <Atlantic777> velho: of course the problem remans. That command just checks do you use some config file.
[10:14] <HadiM> dist-upgrade also
[10:14] <velho> Atlantic777, oh ok :)
[10:14] <HadiM> and when I try to reinstall the package I got this infinite loop run "run-parts" command
[10:15] <velho> Atlantic777,  so, how to increase the arandr size?
[10:15] <HadiM> also update-grub go in an infinite loop
[10:16] <Atlantic777> velho: run "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and copy contents of that file on http://paste.ubuntu.com and give me the link then
[10:17] <velho> Atlantic777, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183268/
[10:18] <Atlantic777> velho: only that? Uhm, ok... and what are the resolutions you need?
[10:18] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: any clue ?
[10:19] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: now way to "hard reset" apt-get ?
[10:19] <HadiM> now = no *
[10:19] <joobie> guys is there a more cutdown version of ubuntu alternative install that doesnt install 1000 packages?
[10:19] <joobie> .. but does support md-raid?
[10:19] <joobie> after Xorg btw
[10:20] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, doesn't appear to be yet
[10:20] <ikonia> joobie: just install and remove what you don't want
[10:20] <ikonia> joobie: you've just asked for basically a personal spin, cut down...that has X and Y but doesn't have Z but installs Y after Z - just use the installer and remove what you don't want
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:21] <ferni> joobie: minimal cd
[10:21] <velho> MonkeyDust,  Atlantic777, I got them. The 2nd screen is recognisable with arandr. But the 2nd screen gets in top of the first
[10:22] <Atlantic777> velho: I understand, but which resolutions do you need?
[10:22] <velho> MonkeyDust,  Atlantic777, I need space on arandr, to put the 2nd screen on the right of the 1st screen
[10:22] <Atlantic777> velho: we need to calculate size of that one big screen.
[10:25] <joobie> thanks ferni
[10:25] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: same error
[10:25] <HadiM> hadim boromir 3.5 $ sudo apt-get -f install
[10:25] <HadiM> Reading package lists... Done
[10:25] <HadiM> Building dependency tree
[10:25] <HadiM> Reading state information... Done
[10:25] <HadiM> E: The package linux-image-3.5.0-030500-generic needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:25] <HadiM> sorry forgot to pastebin
[10:26] <FloodBot1> HadiM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <joobie> ikonia, it's not a personal spin - it's a secure approach.. why install 1000's of unused packages that compromise the security of the system if it's not needed?
[10:26] <velho> Atlantic777, 1st screen: 1280x720. 2nd screen:  1024x768
[10:26] <velho> Atlantic777, at least :/
[10:26] <darknyss> Mount of filesystem failed - Right after grub.
[10:26] <darknyss> Ideas? >.<
[10:26] <ikonia> joobie: because the majority of people want and need them, so just remove wha tyou don't wnat
[10:26] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/cNARDAky
[10:27] <ryao> joobie: You can do a debootstrap installation.
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  how come 3
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  how come 3.5 is there, in the first place?
[10:27] <velho> Atlantic777, there is no "something"x720 resolution for the second screen. That would be ideal
[10:27] <joobie> ikonia, i doubt the majority of people need the 1000 packages it installed by default
[10:27] <ryao> joobie: It is like doing a Gentoo stage3 install, except it is Ubuntu.
[10:27] <darknyss> After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed.
[10:27] <darknyss> Help ?
[10:28] <ikonia> joobie: they need a combination of them, it's aimed at the masses, so they do need it
[10:28] <ikonia> joobie: if you don't need/want something, just remove it
[10:28] <Atlantic777> velho: but you can add "modes" manually. Sorry, I'm stuck at work, have to get something done.
[10:28] <ryao> ikonia: Let people install what they actually need. :/
[10:28] <ikonia> ryao: you can install what you want.
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> ryao  most people want to work, not to install anything
[10:28] <HadiM> I already install it few weeks ago
[10:28] <Atlantic777> Can anyone other help here? velho needs to add some resolutions (modes) to xorg.conf and set size of virtual screen.
[10:28] <darknyss> No one knows? =(
[10:28] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: but I would like to remove it
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  guess 3.5 is simply not well supported
[10:29] <ryao> ikonia: I said "what they actually need", which implies not having extra stuff.
[10:29] <velho> MonkeyDust, can you help me?
[10:29] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: again I dont really care about kernel 3.5, I would like to restore apt-get and dpkg
[10:29] <ikonia> ryao: then don't use the ubuntu desktop install CD
[10:29] <HadiM> do you know how to do it ?
[10:29] <ikonia> ryao: use the minimal CD and install what you want/need
[10:29] <ferni> ikonia: if thats your point, so why restrict the install media to a cd size? people need more software!
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  remove 3.5 the same way you installed
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> it*
[10:30] <velho> MonkeyDust, I need to add some resolutions (modes) to xorg.conf and set size of virtual screen. I don't know what does that mean, but Atlantic777 knows :D
[10:30] <ikonia> ferni: because downloading 700mb is the smallest download possible for the base install
[10:30] <ikonia> ferni: people don't want to download 2.6GB or 4GB or greater to get something that can be held in 700mb
[10:30] <HadiM> MonkeyDust:  i got the same error
[10:31] <velho> MonkeyDust, how to increase the size of Arandr?
[10:31] <darknyss> Someone.. please help?!?!?
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> velho  i'm not familiar with xorg.conf, never edited it or so, never needed to
[10:31] <HadiM> http://pastebin.com/vjz1zggQ MonkeyDust
[10:31] <velho> MonkeyDust, gosh :(
[10:32] <darknyss> I guess I'll continue to get ignored without reason while 10 of you have a conversation.
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> HadiM  try using a GUI, synaptic or software center
[10:32] <darknyss> Lovely.
[10:32] <velho> MonkeyDust, but how do you increase the size of Arandr?
[10:32] <HadiM> MonkeyDust: not working as well
[10:32] <HadiM> same error
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> velho  i'm sure someone else can help better
[10:33] <tuxgeek> hello , how do i know my ati radeon is working on ubuntu?
[10:33] <Atlantic777> velho: type "/j #xorg" here
[10:33] <darknyss> MonkeyDust, velho, HadiM, None of you know?
[10:33] <velho> MonkeyDust, Atlantic777 was the only one helping me... now I'm stuck in the midle of the problem. Can anyone help?
[10:33] <Atlantic777> velho: that will take you to the xorg chan, ask there, wait and you will get help
[10:34] <thermostat> I'm having an issue with Kiosk mode. I'm trying to get an app to run but it isn't playing ball atm. I can get it to run by adding a command to Startup Applications though. Anyone here that knows about Kiosk mode xSession file configs?
[10:35] <tuxgeek> i want to know if my ati radeon wokr
[10:35] <tuxgeek> works
[10:35] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed. -- How To Fix?!?!
[10:35] <meagain> hello ppl.... by accident i moved a file in my root folder.. now i cant get it to move back.. i tried gksudo nautilus, but copy/cut fails due to permissions.. any idea on how to do it?
[10:36] <velho> Atlantic777, I just entered in the #xorg channel. thank you for all the help so far. Thank you MonkeyDust also. You are so kind :)
[10:36] <ryao> ikonia: A debootstrap would probably work better.
[10:36] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed.
[10:36] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed.
[10:36] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed.
[10:36] <FloodBot1> darknyss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:37] <paranogoo> maeg
[10:37] <velho> sorry darknyss  I'm just a noobie. wish I could help, really!
[10:37] <tuxgeek> also i whould like to know how can i have a graphical menu to book windows or linux
[10:37] <darknyss> velho, I just really hate being ignored.
[10:37] <tuxgeek> me too
[10:38] <velho> darknyss, anyone does :D
[10:38] <velho> but I cannot help you, really
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| darknyss
[10:38] <velho> darknyss, wish I could!
[10:38] <darknyss>  After choosing Ubuntu in grub ; Error message = Filesystem Check or Mount Failed. --> How Do I Fix This?
[10:38] <paranogoo> meagain: try "sudo mv /file/to/be/moved /file/where/to/be/moved" in terminal (ctrl+alt+t)
[10:41] <meagain> paranogoo: when i type gksudo nautilus, it opens nautilus and i see the file in Home... but i cant seem to be able to find the file by path... :(
[10:42] <meagain> paranogoo: it is not in the normal Home folder
[10:42] <meagain> paranogoo: "normal" = without gksudo...
[10:42] <ThinkT510> meagain: that would be root's home folder
[10:43] <ebs512> anyone been able to successfully apply a theme to Ubuntu 2D, apparently it doesnt like gtk themes
[10:43] <darknyss> MonkeyDust, Any ideas?
[10:44] <thermostat> I'm having an issue with Kiosk mode. I'm trying to get an app to run but it isn't playing ball atm. I can get it to run by adding a command to Startup Applications though. Anyone here that knows about Kiosk and can help?
[10:45] <thermostat> I'm creating a .desktop in Xsessions
[10:47] <darknyss> :{
[10:48] <meagain> ThinkT510, paranogoo : mv: cannot stat `/root/home/the_name_of_the file': No such file or directory
[10:48] <ThinkT510> meagain: its just /root/
[10:48] <meagain> ThinkT510, paranogoo : and again  -> mv: cannot stat `/root/Home/the_name_of_the file': No such file or directory
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> darknyss  scroll down to 'whooopiee' http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/filesystem-check-failed-784278/
[10:49] <meagain> ThinkT510 : lol... i think a bit more studying is needed... thanx a lot man!! (or woman :) )!
[10:51] <veence01> It's just curious that on Ubuntu I feel like Home, that feeling is just not the same on Mac OSX
[10:52] <Daghdha> is there any alternative to workspaces in 12.04? I find it highly annoying implementation
[10:55] <Onlyodin> I seem to have developed a problem with Precise on my Laptop. In the last two or three days local network access (over WiFi) has slowed to a crawl, it takes up to a minute to get a ping response from machines on the LAN and latency when it does start is >10,000ms
[10:55] <Onlyodin> before all my hair goes grey, does anyone have any thoughts as to what might be happening? There are no similar issues with any other wired or wireless machines on the LAN, no duplicate IPs, etc. etc.
[10:56] <hrondex899> Daghdha: Yes, try GNU Screen
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> Daghdha  try byubo/screen
[10:59] <SvenHH> hi everyone, i have a problem with my 12.04 installation. the nvidia 3d desktop does not work with the nvidia 304.43 driver. does anyone know about this? or can point me to a solution? thanx in advance, sven
[10:59] <Daghdha> thanks MonkeyDust and hrondex899. But i like a  workspaces style one, only proper. Likethe one in 10.x that was much better
[11:00] <velho> Need to update Arandr 1.4 to 1.6 . No automatic updates in the system. How can I update this manually?
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> Daghdha  that was gnome2, no?
[11:01] <velho> SvenHH, I'm a newbie, but I try to help. Did you installed aditional drivers?
[11:01] <ubuntu> Same thing happens, after trying to fix that Monkey.
[11:01] <ubuntu> This is Dark
[11:01] <Daghdha> MonkeyDust: It was a graphical representation of your workspaces in the bottom border, as a widget, and clicking on it would open the workspace. And clicking an little app block in it would even open the app
[11:02] <SvenHH> thanx velho, no i'm using the nvidia-current-updates package.
[11:02] <aidanjt> Daghdha: you can use gnome-session-fallback for a more gnome 2 like UI
[11:02] <Daghdha> aidanjt: How wil that affect the workspace?
[11:03] <velho> SvenHH, try to install that, maybe! I did, and everything works fine
[11:03] <velho> Need to update Arandr 1.4 to 1.6 . No automatic updates in the system. How can I update this manually?
[11:03] <aidanjt> Daghdha: your desktop will look and behave more like ubuntu 10.04/10.10
[11:03] <Daghdha> aidanjt: I am on VNC always you see, all those zom in zoom out works bad.
[11:04] <SvenHH> velho: sorry i mean yes. using the additional driver. this is in fact nvidia-current-updates.
[11:04] <luftikuss> The DEB program package tp-amapi-dkms is installed. Why does lsmod not list a module »tk_smapi«?
[11:04] <luftikuss> The DEB program package tp-smapi-dkms is installed. Why does lsmod not list a module »tk_smapi«?
[11:04] <velho> SvenHH, ok. So what's the problem?
[11:06] <SvenHH> velho: after logging in to the 3d desktop no gadgets show up the taskbar shows only a frame and you only see the background. popup menus only show a dark frame as well.
[11:06] <Darknyss> MonkeyDust, Same issue :{
[11:07] <velho> How to manually update programs? Need to update Arandr 1.4 to 1.6 . No automatic updates in the system.
[11:08] <vega-> velho: not really supported here, but you could try to find a ppa with the packages you want. google.
[11:08] <Darknyss> >_____________________> Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate this error.
[11:08] <velho> vega-, doing so ;)
[11:09] <velho> vega-, what is a ppa?
[11:09] <szal> !ppa
[11:09] <Darknyss> !fap
[11:10] <velho> vega-, what is a ppa?
[11:10] <szal> velho: can you read?
[11:10] <velho> vega-, sorry. szal thanks!
[11:11] <velho> szal, no need to be rude. didn't noticed that
[11:11] <hrondex899> !ppa
[11:11] <hrondex899> velho: Rolling release distributions may suit you better if you need always up-to-date software
[11:13] <velho> hrondex899, I just whant to Update Arandr from 1.4 to 1.6
[11:13] <velho> hrondex899, and I can't see a way to do it
[11:14] <hrondex899> velho: This is an inherent problem with Ubuntu, most of its software is out of date
[11:14] <AdvoWork> Atlantic777, any further ideas?
[11:15] <Darknyss> To a moderate exp. user, Is Lubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu a better option?
[11:15] <Darknyss> Still compatible for gaming and other things?
[11:15] <SvenHH> velho: anything i can do about this?
[11:15] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: "better" in what way?
[11:16] <spidernik84> @velho: try to add the backported repo
[11:16] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, faster?
[11:16] <spidernik84> might contain the pkg you want
[11:17] <spidernik84> or backport it yourself with prevu. Might work. Yet prevu has been removed from 12.04 as it's unsupported
[11:18] <dd_> Darknyss: the fastest would be Xubuntu or Lubuntu. You might find Lubuntu (LXDE) a bit TOO minimalistic depending on what you do with your PC
[11:18] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: it might be a bit faster
[11:19] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: it'll use less memory than Unity
[11:19] <Darknyss> dd_ I'd like to game, maybe possibly WINE functionality. Um.. I can't boot into Ubuntu 12.04 LTS atm because of an error of mounting file systems.
[11:19] <gordonjcp> however
[11:19] <spidernik84> I'd say xubuntu
[11:19] <Darknyss> So I'm debating.... wiping and starting over yet again.
[11:19] <spidernik84> not so extreme and kinda similar to gnome 2.0
[11:19] <gordonjcp> how quickly it "runs" isn't the only thing
[11:19] <gordonjcp> how quickly you get stuff done on it is most important
[11:19] <Darknyss>  gordon, agreed
[11:20] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: what's the error you're getting?
[11:20] <dd_> Darknyss: the best game experience I had was in Xubuntu! It was the only one opf the ubuntu family that let me come back on the desktop while the game was in the background and than rejoin the game
[11:20] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, Something alone the lines of... failed to mount file system type in the root password or Ctrl+D to continue,.
[11:20] <Darknyss> dd_, Might give it a go.
[11:22] <TechnodicT_> Hello
[11:22] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: so, why not do that then?
[11:23] <TechnodicT_> Ssup?
[11:23] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, Ctrl+D brings the same screen back up. Typing in the root password takes me to the console to manage..
[11:23] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, after rebooting the error came out of the blue and it's getting to be irritating.
[11:23] <gordonjcp> yeah
[11:24] <gordonjcp> so you type in the password, and then run fdisk, like it says
[11:24] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, yes. no errors. but it doesn't solve the issue.
[11:25] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: paste the error verbatim
[11:25] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: take a photo of the screen if you have to
[11:25] <solofight> people ive been using ssh with rsa key for several months now - all of sudden my ssh connect command wont work. ends up saying permission denied
[11:25] <solofight> i did a -v and i got this
[11:25] <solofight> http://pastebin.com/tHj3xPdc
[11:25] <Darknyss> filesystem check or mount failed
[11:25] <solofight> anyidea why this sudden change in behavior ?
[11:26] <Darknyss> If I reboot to get to it, I have to reinstall xchat etc. I'm on a live CD atm.
[11:26] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: wait, what?
[11:26] <dr_willis> freenode has a web based irc chat also Darknyss
[11:26] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, ??
[11:26] <Darknyss> dr_willis, didn't know that
[11:27] <gordonjcp> Darknyss: the live CD is giving you that error?
[11:27] <Darknyss> gordonjcp, No.
[11:27] <gordonjcp> oh wait, no, shut up Gordon, I see what you mean
[11:27] <dr_willis> and the live cd's im client can do irc
[11:27] <Darknyss> dr_willis, also good to know.
[11:32] <Darknyss> gordon, so what to do?
[11:32] <solofight> why nobody replying !
[11:32] <solofight> is it that very trivial that am asking it here ?
[11:33] <bazhang> !helpme | solofight
[11:33] <solofight> !repeat
[11:34] <nibbler_> solofight, did you check serverlogs?
[11:34] <Bastian_B> I've install the ubuntu 9.04 and I did updates, a year later (this week) I installer the upgrade up to 12.04. Now my computer is overheating, anybody has a suggestion on what to disable to reduce cpu and graphic usage?
[11:34] <solofight> nibbler_, i checked /var/log/ and see if it had ssh but none
[11:34] <zorbama> Hello, I need help using xsetewacom to configure my Wacom tablet's buttons. The GUI's button mapping option does not seem to work, and I'm having a hard time understanding how to configure it through the command like
[11:34] <solofight> nibbler_, which log to check ?
[11:34] <zorbama> command line*
[11:36] <hackeridis> hi all if you are having problems with the network after an update follow these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001421
[11:37] <nibbler_> solofight, /var/log/syslog
[11:37] <hackeridis> and do not update any network services until bug is fixed
[11:37] <hfic> hackeridis, sounds like you resolved your issue?
[11:38] <jolaren> My webcam has taken alot of photos on my HDD.. which is good because it's a survaillance camera, the problem is that I've removed all the .jpgs from the folder.. and I've also cleaned the paperbin but I still get prompted with this; Usage of /:   93.6% of 295.98GB................ What am I doing wrong?
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> super fast way to copy everything from a ntfs patition to a folder on a fat partition using ubuntu?
[11:39] <hackeridis> yes and when i updated i had the same problem but the answer is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001421
[11:39] <nibbler_> ShapeShifter499, cp
[11:39] <fidel> cp --superfast ;)
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> xD
[11:39] <geirha> jolaren: Well, probably something else is using up alot of space
[11:39] <hfic> fidel, lawl
[11:39] <ShapeShifter499> ah ok
[11:40] <ShapeShifter499> nothings better then cp I guess
[11:40] <hackeridis> i told you i would be back with the answer and i will post so i hope the link will help anybody who had a problem thankyou
[11:40] <fidel> ShapeShifter499: i guess there is no real voodoo in this field - besides remembering that fat has some limits ntfs hasnt - which might break the copy-progress
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:42] <hackeridis> hfic here is the link if anybody needs it for future needs or help so you can post it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001421
[11:42] <root_> hello
[11:42] <hackeridis> see ya all later
[11:43] <jolaren> geirha: Well, yes.. I pulled find / -name '*' -size +1G and the output = http://pastebin.com/nZmxV0fn
[11:43] <zorbama> I need help using xsetewacom to configure my Wacom tablet's buttons. The GUI's button mapping option does not seem to work, and I'm having a hard time understanding how to configure it through the command line
[11:44] <hackeridis> hfic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001421 this is the link that helped me solve my network problem after an update in ubuntu 12.04
[11:44] <hackeridis> bye for now
[11:44] <SvenHH> Hi all, does anyone know of known problem (and solution?)  of the current nvidia driver 304.43 with ubuntu 3d?
[11:45] <geirha> jolaren: so how large are those files? something's apparently spamming your root account's mailbox, and syslog
[11:47] <geirha> jolaren: This command will give an overview of disk usage on the upper directories:  sudo du -xm --max-depth=1 /
[11:51] <ebs512> hey guys I need some help
[11:51] <ebs512> !paste
[11:51] <ebs512> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183384/
[11:53] <ThinkT510> ebs512: you've added repos?
[11:54] <ebs512> I had installed 3.5 and I was trying to downgrade to 3.4 so I uninstalled the previous package and now it isnt allowing me to install
[11:55] <ThinkT510> ebs512: why did you install 3.5?
[11:55] <ebs512> I thought it would work, but apparently has an issue with ubuntu 12.04
[11:56] <ThinkT510> ebs512: we can only support what is in the repo
[11:56] <xantheon> Error "ghc: can't find a package database at" ... Ubuntu 12.04 ... any idea ?
[11:56] <zelrik> Oo
[11:57] <xantheon> It's the AMD64 version of Ubuntu 12.04
[11:57] <ebs512> so how do I get back to what is in the repo?
[11:57] <ThinkT510> ebs512: installing an entire desktop environment from outside the repos is bound to cause dependency issues
[11:58] <escapeplan> Can anyone help me configure xcompmgr ?
[12:01] <velho> hrondex899, I just whant to Update Arandr from 1.4 to 1.6
[12:06] <pfarrell> it seems there's a bug in the quantal slepc package: where should I report it?
[12:06] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | pfarrell
[12:07] <pfarrell> thanks
[12:07] <hassi> #ubuntu-de
[12:09] <velho> how can I Update Arandr from 1.4 to 1.6 ??
[12:10] <ichdasich> heho
[12:10] <ichdasich> i currently try to set up a ubuntu 12.04 desktop with awesome and urxvt.
[12:10] <DjamOlsky> hi all
[12:10] <somsip> velho: 0.1.4 to 0.1.6? Official repo is 0.1.4 so you'd have to go to a PPA https://launchpad.net/~chrysn/+ppa-packages
[12:10] <ichdasich> if i use vim in urxvt and try to type utf8 characters, they get distorted. any ideas on this?
[12:10] <somsip> !ppa | velho
[12:12] <jolish> My Harddrive is 98 % filled. I thought It was the 140 gig of .jpgs on the computer but it wasn't connected to the survaillance camera but probarbly to http://pastebin.com/nZmxV0fn .. when I try to open /var/mail/log my computer hangs, what to do?
[12:13] <Dreadtower> My computer was off this morning when I woke
[12:13] <Dreadtower> There must've been a power outage in thenight
[12:14] <Dreadtower> Anyway, it's fired up into 640 x 400 graphics mode, and won't reset to 1366 x 768
[12:14] <equex> is there any way to gracefully disable this 'unity' and get classic gnome back, or do i need to just install it trough synaptic (if i can find it lol) and remove unity manually (i read that you cannot remove all of it or you will destroy the system, but i will try) or is it a hopeless project and should i just go for MATE or something ?
[12:14] <Dreadtower> Any ideas
[12:14] <somsip> !nounity | equex
[12:14] <soderluk> Hi there, I'm running a turnkey linux virtual machine with ubuntu 10.04 on it. It has OpenSSH 5.3p1-3ubuntu7 installed on it, but I'd like to upgrade to 5.7. Running apt-get upgrade openssh tells me there's nothing to update. What do I need to do to upgrade from 5.3 to 5.7?
[12:16] <yeats> soderluk: why would you need to upgrade to that version, if you don't mind my asking?
[12:16] <yeats> !info openssh-server lucid
[12:16] <equex> where do i even get to synaptic in unity ? or a shell even ?
[12:16] <equex> what on earth are they thinking
[12:16] <yeats> equex: synaptic is no longer installed by default - you can do Ctrl-Alt-T to get to the terminal
[12:17] <equex> ah
[12:17] <equex> i see
[12:17] <equex> no package manager by default right
[12:17] <yeats> equex: software center
[12:17] <yeats> equex: (or apt-get)
[12:17] <soderluk> yeats: well, versions prior to 5.7 might be affected by a few vulnerabilities... such as CVE-2010-4478 and CVE-2012-0814
[12:18] <somsip> soderluk: So you'd need to go to a PPA. I've found 1:5.9 here if that's a starting point? https://launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+archive/openssh
[12:19] <somsip> soderluk: it appears to be maintained by whoever maintains the official package too: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/ubuntu/2010-05-10-openssh-5.5p1-for-lucid.html
[12:20] <soderluk> somsip: thanks mate for that :)
[12:21] <soderluk> so apparently no 5.7 version is going to be found for 10.04 from the sources
[12:21] <insomniaSalt> hi #ubuntu, can I safely use "dd" to create bootable pendrives instead of usb-creator/unetbootin?
[12:22] <NiteRain> Hi, I am trying to connect to verizon via my gobi2000 card.  I have installed the firmware and and network-manager sees the card, when I try to set up the provider, I run through the wizard it seems to only give me options for their 4G network.  So I click other, but it still requires me to enter an APN,  the information I have read mention nothing about 3g having an APN.
[12:22] <viliny> Hello everyone, i was sitting here bored thinking about things. With windows 8 and the notorius metro ui around the corner im really thinking about switching my main desktop to linux completely.
[12:23] <viliny> Where are we with microsoft allowing directx on linux?
[12:23] <Queops> directx what...
[12:23] <Queops> linux is perfectly capable of running high end games
[12:24] <Queops> just needs a good graphics card and drivers
[12:24] <OerHeks>   directX is part of Wine. only if you need wine.
[12:24] <viliny> Are you refering to Wine and dx9 emulation/not-emulation?
[12:25] <viliny> or games running opengl?
[12:25] <OerHeks> what is your ubuntu support question, viliny ?
[12:25] <Auzy> viliny, there is no DirectX api for Linux..
[12:25] <Auzy> viliny, That being said, there are alternatives, such as OpenGL
[12:26] <viliny> im well aware of that, i was just wondering if anyone knew about anything new on that front. nevermind.
[12:26] <Auzy> viliny, Wine can run Windows DirectX games, however, the biggest improvemernt for gaming on Linux will be Steam for Linux, which has been officially announced
[12:26] <Queops> I can't wait for it
[12:26] <Queops> :D
[12:26] <viliny> Auzy: now thats pretty close to what i was hoping to hear, thank you
[12:27] <Auzy> viliny, thing is, even if someone ports the DirectX API for linux, it will never be compliant with the latest standard, and the windows API wont work
[12:27] <Queops> viliny: be very excited! I heard it's soon rather than later
[12:27] <Queops> probably at the end of the year
[12:27] <Auzy> So.. since Windows games use the windows API so much, you'd have to mostly port the whole OS..
[12:27] <viliny> i've been running a lot of games on wine in the past, but it's not fun sitting on the edge of your chair hoping that the game won't crash when you doing something on a competetive online game
[12:27] <viliny> eve-online etc.
[12:27] <Queops> well eve online
[12:27] <Queops> depends totally on CCP
[12:28] <viliny> they had official linux support through wine-related shenanigans but they decided not to maintain it officially anymore
[12:28] <Auzy> If Ubuntu plays their cards right, they can succeed with Gaming eventually..
[12:28] <agus_sintang> selamat datang
[12:28] <Auzy> hi agus_sintang
[12:28] <Dreadtower> I am totally stuck in 640 x 400: can anyone help
[12:28] <agus_sintang> hi Auzy
[12:29] <Dreadtower> It was 1366 x 768 un til last night
[12:29] <Auzy> Dreadtower, need more info..
[12:29] <Dreadtower> OK
[12:29] <viliny> Yeah, but microsoft has the market by the genitals with directx and all things related, it's sad that i have to resort to windows for a uncrippled gaming experience - so i came here to back and forth with you guys and hear if theres any news on that front
[12:29] <Dreadtower> xrandr is reporting no gamma round and 640 x 400
[12:29] <Dreadtower> no gamma found
[12:30] <theadmin> Dreadtower: Which video drivers are you using?
[12:30] <Auzy> viliny, There is a good reason for that though..
[12:30] <Dreadtower> I don;t know!
[12:30] <Queops> viliny: for the next years, me and you will be dual booting for gaming still
[12:30] <Dreadtower> The ones that were set up by Ubuntu/KDE
[12:30] <theadmin> Dreadtower: Please pastebin the output of "lsmod"
[12:30] <xorma> Hi, can someone tell me how I can define "Acquire::http::No-Cache true;" in a preseed file?
[12:31] <Auzy> viliny, It's not because MS bribes them, its the simple things in Ubuntu that stil need work..
[12:31] <viliny> Auzy, what specificly?
[12:31] <equex> viliny: both valve and id have now proven that OpenGL engines are viable and now, the OpenCL will gain traction. It now even has Nvidia people onboard.
[12:31] <viliny> equex: excellent
[12:31] <Queops> I love nvidia
[12:31] <viliny> i'm 26 and my first games had opengl support
[12:32] <Auzy> viliny, Simple things.. Like, the fact that we can't even decide on a Sound daemon, and it regularly changes
[12:32] <Queops> and many more..
[12:32] <Queops> i still dont like the overlay scrollbars, personal opinion
[12:32] <Auzy> In fact, remember Devicekit?
[12:32] <Queops> taste*
[12:32] <viliny> i really hated... whats it called... unity
[12:32] <equex> i just hope people come to their senses about unity
[12:33] <equex> they just need to get that out of the mainline distro *now*
[12:33] <Auzy> Unity can improve long term..Once again, the issue with Unity, gnome and all that, is simple stuff is still missing..
[12:33] <gordonjcp> Auzy: things change
[12:33] <gordonjcp> Auzy: we work out better ways of doing stuff
[12:34] <Auzy> gordonjcp, Like, automounting SMB shares?
[12:34] <theadmin> equex: Ubuntu provides many alternatives. There are plans on an official GNOME-Shell-based version too.
[12:34] <veryape> hrm, i actually likes unity now after giving it a new chance with 12.04
[12:34] <viliny> but gnomes been out forever, in various versions... isn't the main point of open source that people can contribute and progress goes faster?
[12:34] <gordonjcp> Auzy: I don't use SMB but surely authentication would be a factor there?
[12:34] <equex> theadmin: i am just saing unity should be an alternative, not the default
[12:34] <Queops> theadmin: not only there are plans, there's an alpha already :P
[12:34] <Auzy> gordonjcp, Or, the fact that when loading a GUI app which is missing a SO file, there is no error saying so.. It just never loads.. No feedback
[12:34] <gordonjcp> Auzy: how often does that happen?
[12:35] <theadmin> equex: I don't mind it being the default long as the ISOs with other desktops are provided, and they are.
[12:35] <gordonjcp> Auzy: and, how often does that happen *because you've been dicking about with things you should leave alone*?
[12:35] <viliny> Auzy: been a while since i fiddled under the hood, whats an so file?
[12:35] <theadmin> Queops: You mean there's such for Quantal?
[12:35] <Auzy> Quite a lot on apps which are 3 years old, which aren't on the repos.. Affected a lot of Humble Bundle games
[12:35] <gordonjcp> viliny: a library file
[12:35] <Auzy> viliny, Shared Library.. like a .dll
[12:35] <gordonjcp> viliny: ".so" stands for Shared Object
[12:35] <viliny> roger
[12:35] <Queops> When games start coming to linux at a good rate it's gonna be a .so nightmare, look at Desura, cant run half of the games
[12:35] <Queops> theadmin: yep, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes#Download_the_Alpha
[12:36] <Queops> Reminder: alpha, bugs :]
[12:36] <flan_suse> How do you fix the problem when it says that ALL your packages are "Installed (manual)" when in fact that's not true?
[12:36] <viliny> oh i have desura... but i only got that for this one zombie survival game that i can't remember the name of
[12:36] <NiteRain> haha, I guess beta bugs  are easier to work with?
[12:36] <viliny> Hopefully that'll standardise so the average user won't have problems like you described
[12:37] <theadmin> Queops: I know, not gonna use it (I'm very much of a KDE person), but I'm surprised they got it going so soon :)
[12:37] <Queops> theadmin: same!
[12:37] <AdvoWork> how can i tell if an install is server or non-server? cat /etc/issue doesn't say
[12:37] <Queops> theadmin: same, as for the going so soon part
[12:37] <Auzy> AdvoWork, does it have Xwindows?
[12:37] <Queops> viliny: I think you mean atom zombie smasher
[12:37] <AdvoWork> Auzy, not sure, only have cli access to it
[12:37] <Queops> That one runs well
[12:38] <equex> theadmin: im just afraid now that gaming just has a chance of taking off on linux, we now just suddenly toss everything around. i know a lot of people in the wild that just got used to version 8,9 and 10 after ditching windows vista and now they have UI experiments thrown at them both from Ubuntu mainline and Metro
[12:38] <viliny> Queops: no, not that one - this was an indy game where you run around boarding up houses and scavenging for items, isometric
[12:38] <Auzy> AdvoWork, if you type startx.. chances are, its GUI.. if you only have CLI, and its on a VPS, again, likely its server
[12:38] <Queops> viliny: oh, I dont remember the name of that one
[12:38] <Queops> reboot brb
[12:39] <equex> what people want is something that looks like XP and launches games.
[12:39] <Dreadtower> theadmin http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183437/
[12:39] <gordonjcp> equex: why?
[12:39] <Auzy> I disagree equex.. What they want is something they can use full time, and everything to be solvable via the GUI..
[12:39] <gordonjcp> equex: I think what you mean is "what I want is..."
[12:40] <studente> wej
[12:40] <gordonjcp> most people don't give a toss what their OS looks like
[12:40] <equex> gordonjcp exactly
[12:40] <theadmin> equex, gordonjcp: Offtopic much, please continue this in a PM session or #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:40] <NiteRain> gordonjcp: then explain Mac OS?
[12:40] <gordonjcp> equex: XP is *horrible* to use
[12:40] <gordonjcp> NiteRain: what about it?
[12:40] <Auzy> offtopic then?
[12:40] <gordonjcp> Auzy: yeah, very much so!
[12:40] <studente> who intends on server metin2?
[12:41] <equex> discussing unity is offtopic
[12:41] <theadmin> Dreadtower: Blah, not helpful... Sorry, don't see any familiar names
[12:41] <gordonjcp> equex: discussing unity *support* is on-topic
[12:41] <Dreadtower> theadmin: OK - thanks for looking
[12:41] <studente> who intends on server metin2?
[12:41] <studente> who intends on server metin2?
[12:41] <studente> who intends on server metin2?
[12:41] <FloodBot1> studente: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <pritesh> how can i change splash screen in ubuntu 11.04
[12:43] <iLogical> I don't find this adobe-flash-properties-gtk package anywhere. what repos I need to add? http://askubuntu.com/questions/90783/where-is-the-adobe-flash-player-settings-manager
[12:43] <Oranger> pritesh: What do you want to say by "splash screen" ?
[12:43] <thoong> you guys experiencing nouveau problems with newer kernels 3.4 -3.5? i m just trying to find if this is localized to a fedora or will it affect other distros >?
[12:44] <pritesh> Oranger splash logo that comes on booting time
[12:44] <Oranger> "Ubuntu" with the orange points ?
[12:44] <yeats> thoong: current ubuntu release is on 3.2 - you might try #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <thoong> thanks
[12:47] <iLogical> where do I find the repos with the package adobe-flash-properties-gtk ?
[12:48] <NiteRain> Having a problem with getting my broadband mobile card to connect to verizon.  I see the modem, just configuring it to connect  is a problem, most of the options it gives me is a 4G contract for the billing plan, and I am using 3G
[12:48] <theadmin> iLogical: Bookmark this page and use it instead: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html (it's the same thing)
[12:49] <pritesh> is any one tell me how to change the splash logo of ubuntu that comes during the booting up
[12:49] <flan_suse> How do you fix the problem when it says that ALL your packages are "Installed (manual)" when in fact that's not true?
[12:49] <iLogical> thanks theadmin
[12:49] <e66_> flan_suse: what exact error you are getting?
[12:50] <flan_suse> e66_: It's not a fatal error or anything, but it's messing up the status of my packages.
[12:50] <Sachiru> Hello! I would like to run Ubuntu Server in a VM, dedicated to running a server application written in Python. I woill provision it 4GB of RAM, and expect the server to not consume much, since everything else (database and associated services) are in separate VMs.
[12:50] <Sachiru> Would it be possible to not use a swap partition, so that I can easily backup the hard disk image of the VM?
[12:50] <flan_suse> e66_: Basically, nearly ALL my packages are considered "Installed (manual)" when that should only be reserved for non-repository .deb's such as games and manual downloads / installs.
[12:50] <flan_suse> e66_: But it's listing almost ALL packages under this status.
[12:51] <flan_suse> e66_: I tried the apt-mark auto trick, but that only changes them to "autoremovable"
[12:51] <KM0201> Sachiru: possible, but i would go ahead and put a swap partition just in case.. that's just me
[12:51] <Dreadtower> Well theadmin: 4 hours now and no way forward
[12:51] <Dreadtower> It looks like my installatin is wrecked
[12:52] <gyre007> how come I'm seeing 8 cores  in /proc/cpuinfo in Ubuntu when my server should only have 2 ?
[12:52] <KM0201> 4hrs?.. man, i have a rule, it only takes me about 25-30min to completely reinstall/restore my junk... so if it's longer than that, i reinstall.
[12:52] <KM0201> did the same thing w/ Windows for the most part.
[12:53] <Sachiru> Hmm.
[12:53] <Sachiru> What if I do this:
[12:53] <Sachiru> I'll create a dedicated disk image in a different directory which is then mounted only as swap.
[12:54] <Sachiru> That way, when I do incremental backup, I don't need to backup the 4gb swap partition every time.
[12:54] <KM0201> Sachiru: i was going to suggest that... just during the install, set the other disk image as the swap.. and you'll be done.
[12:54] <Sachiru> Cool, that works, thanks!
[12:55] <theadmin> Sachiru: You can make a swapfile, see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1042946
[12:55] <Sachiru> While running the server, I've noticed that if the database and webserver were on different machines, the real machine hosting the server has practically no change in OS files except for swap partition.
[12:55] <Sachiru> That saves me 4gb per backup. Thanks, all!
[12:55] <Merwin> Guys, how can I "lock" my keyboard so I can clean it without hitting keys. I read keeping right "Shift" for 8s worked, but doesn't seem to work with unity
[12:55] <e66_> flan_suse: "Installed (manual)" on Synaptic means packages that you installed by yourself either by synaptic or apt-get
[12:55] <Merwin> (Yes, I know I can unplug it!)
[12:55] <alci> USC won't take my payment : Unable to load page
[12:56] <alci> Problem occurred while loading the URL https://ingdf.wlp-acs.com/acs-pa
[12:56] <alci> SSL handshake failed
[12:56] <BluesKaj> KM0201, Sachiru , what's the procedure for making a dir with a disk image for swap ?
[12:56] <flan_suse> e66_: Even from the official repositories?
[12:56] <Sachiru> Depends on what you use for virtualizing.
[12:56] <e66_> flan_suse: yes
[12:56] <flan_suse> e66_: I figured "Installed (manual)" is reserved for non-repo packages or manually installed .deb files.
[12:56] <KM0201> BluesKaj: hes' doing it w/ vmware.. so basically, make two virtual disks... you install, and when you installl, you set one virtual drive as /  and one as /swap
[12:57] <flan_suse> e66_: And besides, it's NOT true that I install all those packages manually. Most were part of the default install.
[12:57] <e66_> flan_suse: "installed (local or obsolete)" means what you have installed by .deb, .sh etc
[12:57] <Sachiru> I use VirtualBox, and I just create another disk image, placed in a separate directory, since my backup script copies the contents of my vm images repository.
[12:57] <KM0201> BluesKaj: that maks it where he can back up the image of his server, w/o constantly backing up the swap partition as well (that seems to be his goal)
[12:57] <BluesKaj> ok KM0201 ...I should ahve scrolled up for more info
[12:57] <Sachiru> ^^ Yes, that's exactly my goal.
[12:58] <flan_suse> e66_: For instance, how come it lists alsa-utils as manual? Among all those other default packages?
[12:58] <KM0201> Sachiru: thats actually a pretty good idea, i've ran servers on Vbox before, and wouldn't have thought of that
[12:59] <Sachiru> Yeah, if you segregate VMs so that one contains database, one contains webserver and one contains the VM with the app that rarely changes.
[12:59] <KM0201> yup.
[12:59] <KM0201> it'll make backing up much easier.
[12:59] <Sachiru> You can just backup the DB VM and the Webserver VM every month, the static VM once, and discard swap disks.
[13:00] <Sachiru> Plus, if the database dies, restoring that service's VM is much faster than restoring a monolithic VM that contains everything.
[13:00] <e66_> flan_suse: did you install anything related to sound from command line?
[13:00] <e66_> flan_suse:  it could be that
[13:00] <flan_suse> e66_: Nope.
[13:00] <flan_suse> e66_: I read bug reports about this, for people that noticed this on a fresh install.It's just kind of inconsistent.
[13:01] <flan_suse> e66_: Not too major, but thanks anyways.
[13:01] <e66_> I also see that in my package list
[13:01] <Sachiru> I have that scripted as well, actually. If the nginx VM dies for some reason, my script restores the last known good disk image of the nginx vm and reboots the vm.
[13:01] <flan_suse> e66_: Same installed (manual) status for 1,000+ packages?
[13:01] <e66_> I also see some packages that I didn't installed.
[13:01] <e66_> yes
[13:02] <e66_> But I see very few packages that I didn't install.
[13:02] <flan_suse> e66_: Actually, there is a problem.
[13:02] <flan_suse> e66_: Because it ruins which packages are "autoremovable" if you remove the parent package.
[13:03] <flan_suse> Say I install an application, like vlc, but later want to remove it. If I remove it, all it's extra packages (pulled in from later) will remain on my system, and they won't be labeled autoremovable.
[13:03] <e66_> I think some packages are automatically installed as dependency to other packages. And this packages should be in autoremovable, but took place in  "Installed Manual)
[13:04] <Queops> What a mess :)
[13:04] <flan_suse> Agreed.
[13:04] <flan_suse> There's no option or anything to just reset the package statuses.
[13:05] <AdvoWork> how can you add old repositories for old-releases to the sources list? I see various folders, but i see -backports -proposed -security -updates etc,  and not sure which one
[13:07] <pritesh> koi h
[13:08] <Dreadtower> Thx fo ryour help theadmin. Imanagaed to get the recovery modeule running (with the mouse available) and fix
[13:08] <Queops> flan_suse: /var/log/apt/history.log should show all kinds of non-sense that probably happened to your apt
[13:08] <theadmin> Dreadtower: But now your keyboard seems broken
[13:08] <pritesh> is any one please help me how to change splash logo in ubuntu 11.04
[13:08] <Dreadtower> No - it's cool
[13:08] <Dreadtower> Why do you say that?
[13:08] <flan_suse> Queops: Will check itout.
[13:09] <Queops> apt-cache depends -i somepackage | cut -f 2 -d ':' | tr '\n' ' '.
[13:09] <Queops> this should show all dependencies of a package in a nice form
[13:09] <Queops> flan_suse: i thought it might be useful
[13:09] <SAngeli_> I have a mdadm question: with two disks, raid-1 before creating the array is it necessary to first create a partition in one of the two hd or can this be skipped?
[13:09] <Queops> so you can purge the packages easily.
[13:10] <flan_suse> Queops: is that last period required?
[13:10] <Queops> flan_suse: I took it from askubuntu.com, it should.
[13:10] <Calinou> yes
[13:10] <Calinou> . = current directory
[13:10] <flan_suse> SAngeli: Might as well create a partition on each disk that takes the entire space for each, and use the software raid type/label for the partitions. Then do the rest...
[13:12] <Queops> brb reboot
[13:12] <flan_suse> SAngeli: /dev/sdb1 + /dev/sdc1 = /dev/md0 (raid1)............ sdb1 and sdc1 are software raid partitions
[13:13] <flan_suse> BBL
[13:13] <amr_> hello, is there a copy of ubuntu which by default provide gnome 3.4 desktop?
[13:13] <KM0201> weird, i didn't know t-bird had a built in IRC client.
[13:14] <KM0201> amr_: not to my knowledge.
[13:14] <DJones> KM0201: I think it comes with the latest version of Thunderbird, only recently added from memory
[13:15] <KM0201> DJones: i dunno, this is the version of tbird i've always had.. just happened to notice it.
[13:16] <Ken8521> the fonts kinda suck.
[13:16] <Ken8521> i imagine i could figure out a way to change that if i wanted
[13:16] <amr_> if I install new copy of ubutnu 12 then install the gnome from software center ,I will have it just working or other stuff need to be handled ?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> amr_  you mean gnome-shell?
[13:16] <Ken8521> amr_: it *should* work... i don't like 3.x so i've not tried it
[13:17] <Nekura> Anybody have any suggestions for loadbalancing software?
[13:17] <amr_> MonkeyDust: yes
[13:17] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm I've been experiencing a LOT of crashes in Ubuntu 12.04 lately, like no tomorrow. automount, chrome, skype, etc... Just all over the place.
[13:17] <KM0201> hmm, weird
[13:18] <smartmobili> hi
[13:18] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Sounds like something serious broke, might a glib/kernel thing
[13:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: smells like hardware
[13:18] <KM0201> yup.
[13:18] <theadmin> s/glib/libc/
[13:18] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: It's not hardware.
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> amr_  just install it and get used to it -- (i don't like/use it myself)
[13:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: how can you be so sure?
[13:18] <smartmobili> I have one problem, I am using ubuntu natty and it seems my /lib/init/upstart-job script is empty. Is is normal ?
[13:18] <OerHeks> Psi-Jack, do a memtest86
[13:18] <Psi-Jack> OerHeks: Already did. Checked out perfectly fine.
[13:19] <smartmobili> Hi by the way
[13:19] <Psi-Jack> I'm wonderfing if somehow using aptitude, instead of apt-get is causing some package related corruption of sorts.
[13:19] <amr_> Ken8521: and the unity will steal exists too
[13:19] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Yep... Aptitude is broken (on 64-bit systems at least)
[13:20] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: That's why Ubuntu no longer includes it by default on 64-bit ISOs
[13:20] <BobDobalina> Is it better to use Aptitude or Apt-Get?
[13:20] <opieng> hello all, I have installed Ubuntu. I had Win 7 installed on my SDD and installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my HDD, I try to boot from where I installed Ubuntu, but I can't see to get to the OS Selector during boot up (I think its called the Grub?)
[13:20] <BluesKaj> KM0201, I just found the irc client in thunderbird as well , in tools/chat status ..neat :)
[13:20] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Yeah, so I recall hearing, but could it cause the all this problem?
[13:20] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[13:20] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: it comes default for server, just not for desktop.
[13:21] <KM0201> BluesKaj: lol, well i don't feel quite so stupid now... all this time checking my email and never seeing that big "CHAT" button
[13:21] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Maybe, yes, aptitude can cause serious issues with 64-bit (multiarch)
[13:21] <hfic> !grub | opieng
[13:21] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Is there a viable fix to repair it? My desktop system at work isn't experiencing these problems, but my home system is, and it's really frustrating.
[13:21] <opieng> ummm but I installed Ubuntu after windows.. does that matter?
[13:22] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: I noticed it first with just Chrome tabs constantly dying, randomly, not it's gotten to the point where many other things do it, like skype.
[13:22] <smartmobili> ok : trying again to ask my question : it seems my /lib/init/upstart-job script is empty. Is is normal ?
[13:22] <KM0201> Psi-Jack: i'd suspect a RAM issue, but thats just me.
[13:23] <KM0201> or try a clean install
[13:23] <Psi-Jack> KM0201: It's pretty new RAM still, and memtest86 passed 48 hours non-stop testing.
[13:23] <KM0201> hmm
[13:23] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Unfortunately, I have no idea how to fix it... Unless you find a way to reinstall each and every package, using apt-get
[13:23] <smartmobili> so when I try something like /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop nothing happens (since vsftpd is just a link to upstart-job)
[13:23] <opieng> anyone?
[13:23] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: That's plausible.
[13:23] <KM0201> smartmobili: try "sudo service vsftpd stop"
[13:24] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: I'd say "emerge -DN world" if it were Gentoo ;)
[13:24] <smartmobili> it works
[13:24] <KM0201> smartmobili: although i think that command you listed should work as well... just make sure you're using "sudo" with it.
[13:24] <smartmobili> I am root
[13:24] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Actually, I was thinking: for pkg in `dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' | egrep -v '(dpkg|apt|mysql|mythtv)'` ; do apt-get -y --force-yes install --reinstall $pkg ; done
[13:24]  * KM0201 sighs
[13:25] <smartmobili> could someone with natty checks if this upstart-job is empty or not
[13:25] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Well that's one hell of a command, also it might fail since I think "dpkg --get-selections" outputs some sort of a header before the actual package names
[13:25] <smartmobili> just curious to know
[13:25] <user> q
[13:25] <AdvoWork> im trying to install a package, and it says Package is not available but is referred to by another package, how can I find out what package so I can get it?
[13:26] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Not that I see it doesn't.
[13:26] <opieng> Does this still apply if I installed Ubuntu after Windows 7 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[13:26] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Okay, than I guess you could give that a try. At your own risk of course.
[13:26] <Psi-Jack> Of course. ;)
[13:26] <KM0201> opieng: it shouldn't... that's for if you install windows 7 after ubuntu
[13:27] <Psi-Jack> My setup's pretty easy though, /home is on a separate partition. /'s on SSD.
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> opieng  1st windows, then ubuntu
[13:27] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[13:27] <opieng> KH Any suggestions for solving my problem?
[13:27] <pawan> Is the Debian irc down?
[13:27] <KM0201> opieng: i didn't see you mention a problem...
[13:27] <opieng> MonkeyDust, thats what I did
[13:27] <nzerox> hey guys
[13:27] <nzerox> i'm having the following issue with openct
[13:27] <nzerox> Error: can't open /var/run/openct/status: Permission denied
[13:27] <nzerox> can anyone help?
[13:28] <KM0201> pawan: works fine for me...are you identified?
[13:28] <opieng> KM0201, "I have installed Ubuntu. I had Win 7 installed on my SDD and installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my HDD, I try to boot from where I installed Ubuntu, but I can't see to get to the OS Selector during boot up"
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> pawan  i'm in #debian now, so no
[13:28] <pawan> KM0201: How to do that?
[13:28] <KM0201> !identify | pawan
[13:28] <KM0201> !register | pawan
[13:29] <KM0201> pawan: when you installed, wherre did you install grub?
[13:29] <KM0201> woopps, opieng when you installed, where did you install grub?
[13:30] <13WABHP8E> hi all
[13:30] <13WABHP8E> May I know how to install vim in arch linux?
[13:30] <KM0201> !arch
[13:30] <opieng> KM0201, Pretty sure it was on my HDD, same place I installed Ubuntu.
[13:30] <pawan> I'm very new to irc. I can connect to #debian on freenode
[13:30] <KM0201> hmm
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> 13WABHP8E  better ask in #arch
[13:30] <pawan> I tried the default address given in XChat
[13:30] <pawan> Didn't work
[13:30] <gordonjcp> 13WABHP8E: you could ask in #arch
[13:31] <BluesKaj> !arch| 13WABHP8E
[13:31] <pawan> That's the one they gave on their official site
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> 13WABHP8E  wrong chennel, this is ubuntu support
[13:31] <KM0201> opieng: did you sett he hdd as first in your boot sequence?
[13:31] <Psi-Jack> Alrighty.. Trying an in-place reinstall of packages now.
[13:31] <KM0201> opieng: the ubuntu server is the same as the freenode server
[13:32] <theadmin> 13WABHP8E: pacman -Syu vim or pacman -Syu gvim for the GUI version. The Arch channel is #archlinux by the way.
[13:32] <KM0201> so debian is the same channel on both
[13:32] <szal> 13WABHP8E, MonkeyDust, gordonjcp: it's #archlinux
[13:32] <opieng> I try booting from both SSD and HDD first and they both don't pick up the grub2? I work them first day I installed, but now it seems the Grub2 is lost?
[13:32] <pawan> KM201, Okay
[13:32] <KM0201> pawan: like i said, i suspect you're not identified, because i'm there now w/ no problem (on the ubuntu server)
[13:33] <lordnoid> ive got ubuntu and windows on seperate fakeraid arrays. I can boot to ubuntu, but i cant boot to windows. Grub doesnt see it and i have no idea what the root is supposed to be with names like /dev/mapper/...
[13:33] <mickymills> hi fans, I am having some trouble on Ubuntu 12 where the trackpad freezes. unloading and reloading using modprobe reinstates the trackpad. the error seems to come up using java dependent apps like firefox and libreoffice
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> pawan  it's not the channel, it's you
[13:33] <opieng> KM0201, what do you mean freenode is on the same server?
[13:33] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: fakeraid is bad, m'kay? Don't use it.
[13:34] <KM0201> opieng: that wasn't for you.
[13:34] <user> hm
[13:34] <mickymills> lordnoid > what version of Windows?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> opieng  type /join #freenode to find out
[13:34] <opieng> oh
[13:34] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, there's not really another option for dualboot
[13:34] <lordnoid> mickymills, 7
[13:34] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: Of course there is.
[13:34] <opieng> So any suggestion on where my Grub2 has gone?
[13:34] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: There's /ALWAYS/ a better option than using fakeraid, 100% of the time.
[13:34] <pawan> MonkeyDust: I connected to the Debian channel on freenode. Thank you :)
[13:34] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, tell me
[13:35] <mickymills> ubuntu 12 worked out of the box with my windows 7 install, but its not grub I know that!
[13:35] <KM0201> opieng: have no idea.. like i said, my first guess is it didn't get installed properly or something.
[13:35] <KM0201> !grub
[13:35] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: What's your current raid setup looking like?
[13:35] <KM0201> opieng: try following the instructions in that factoid to restore grub..
[13:35] <AdvoWork> i'm doing some work on an old server, and need to install libltdl3  but it says it is not available but is referred to by another package. any idea how I can manually install this?
[13:35] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, 2 raid 0 arrays, 200GB and 1,8TB
[13:36] <gyre007> im wondering how should I set the thresholds for monitoring the load...I have 4 cores
[13:36] <opieng> Ok I will try, hope it works
[13:36] <mickymills> anyone know any  trackpad persistent errors on ubuntu 12 using compaq?
[13:36] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: So, 4 HDD's?
[13:36] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, no, 2
[13:37] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, short-stroking
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> !anyone > mickymills
[13:37] <Psi-Jack> Eh.... That's horrible.. Raid 0 is striping (spanning) only, and pretty much extremely pointless.. Why would you DO that?
[13:37] <gyre007> the highest load should be 4 right
[13:37] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, raid 0 is striping, which is not spanning.
[13:38] <mickymills> hi fans, I am having some trouble on Ubuntu 12 where the trackpad freezes. unloading and reloading using modprobe reinstates the trackpad. the error seems to come up using java dependent apps like firefox and libreoffice
[13:38] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: What's the physical HDD's?
[13:38] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, two 1TB
[13:38] <mickymills> hi fans, I am having some trouble on Ubuntu 12 where the trackpad freezes. unloading and reloading using modprobe reinstates the trackpad. the error seems to come up using java dependent apps like firefox and libreoffice , whats the problem
[13:38] <gyre007> or am I missing saomething ?
[13:39] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: Heck, with that, you have 2 HDD's. Use part of 1 to install Linux on, the other to install Windows on, and split the first as needed to share data between the two, if you don't do so with the second one anyway.
[13:39] <Psi-Jack> Dual-boot success.
[13:40] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, true, but id rather keep my speed
[13:40] <Psi-Jack> You're not getting ANY speed hardly with a fakeraid.
[13:40] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, I am.
[13:40] <Psi-Jack> And Linux itself certainly isn't using it at all.
[13:40] <Psi-Jack> lordnoid: No, really. You're not.
[13:41] <Psi-Jack> All you're doing is making the destruction of your data more possible. :p
[13:42] <lordnoid> Psi-Jack, I've tested it and the tranfer rate was 50MB/s higher
[13:42] <mrs_sheep> hello everybody - my system is unbootable due to "alloc magic is broken" - any ideas where i could find a solution? (google did not halpt too much this time) ?
[13:43] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Tell me if it works (the reinstall every package thing), cause I'm interested
[13:43] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Roger that. Will do. I'm watching it all now, still going. :)
[13:44] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Up to the C's now. ;)
[13:44] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: You realize it's not installing them in alphabetical order but in dependency satisfaction order, right?
[13:45] <rahul_> question, is their con of duel boot ubuntu on the performance of the system?
[13:45] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: It's mostly doing it in alphabetical order, actually.
[13:45] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Since all the dependencies themselves are already installed, it's just reinstalling everything in-place.
[13:46] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Oh, right
[13:46] <Psi-Jack> heh
[13:46] <21WAAFEW9> Is bitcasa.com the best backup solution?
[13:46] <opieng> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub I can't seem to find the Boot-repair section. It seems like Ubunutu will reinstall? I am worried I will mess things up here
[13:47] <Psi-Jack> 21WAAFEW9: There is no "best" of anything. Best is a measure of your own personal and unique opinion of what you consider best for you, and could be in multiple different scenarios. It is more useful to ask more specific questions you have.
[13:47] <opieng> When I boot from the Ubuntu Installation CD that is
[13:49] <opieng> anyone?
[13:50] <21WAAFEW9> Backuping 3TB on a 10mbit connection, how long am I looking at?
[13:51] <user> hm
[13:52] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: 6990 hours, if my calculations are correct
[13:52] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[13:52] <JasperCoenraats> hello
[13:52] <Psi-Jack> Yep, theadmin
[13:53] <JasperCoenraats> somebody knows a program like photoshop for ubuntu?
[13:53] <21WAAFEW9> theadmin: So like, a few months?
[13:53] <gregoryfenton> JasperCoenraats, gimpshop
[13:53] <etz> Hello all
[13:53] <JasperCoenraats> tnhks
[13:53] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: Almost a year, actually >.<
[13:53] <mickymills> my trackpad stopped working and only started again after reloading using modprobe :(
[13:53] <etz> Is there a new version of Ubuntu out yet?
[13:53] <mickymills> its happening all the time
[13:54] <user14> In what order is it better to set /, swap and /home partitions?
[13:54] <mickymills> apart from that ubuntu rocks
[13:54] <deitrick> new version in october
[13:54] <21WAAFEW9> theadmin: How do people backup then?
[13:54] <theadmin> etz: The latest is 12.04, I don't know how you define "new". There is a new release approximately twice a year.
[13:54] <mickymills> luckily I still have a keyboard!
[13:54] <21WAAFEW9> 300gb takes a month?
[13:54] <Adie> there is a new version exactly twice a year
[13:54] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: You said tb
[13:54] <opieng> mickymills, ubuntu rocks except for when the Grub2 goes missing....
[13:54] <Adie> april and october
[13:54] <etz> What's the name of it?
[13:54] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: and 300 terabytes is a... lot.
[13:55] <deitrick> 12.10
[13:55] <mickymills> grub frustrates , it is very unforgiving
[13:55] <theadmin> etz: The name of 12.04 is "Precise Pangolin", the name of the latest unstable version is Quantal... something
[13:55] <21WAAFEW9> theadmin: I asked 3TB, you said a year, so I lowered my backup need because I don't have a year
[13:55] <etz> Is there a beta out yet?
[13:55] <hylian> etz: yeah, 12.10 has a beta release.
[13:56] <etz> Thanks the admin
[13:56] <deitrick> yup beta1
[13:56] <theadmin> 21WAAFEW9: Hm, well, your idea is convert info to megabits and divide by 10, you'll get seconds, then convert that to whatever's comfortable for you
[13:56] <opieng> mickymills, yes, its putting me off using Ubuntu altogether as a dual boot with windows 7
[13:57] <Psi-Jack> 21WAAFEW9: How do people backup? They buy backup equipment, most of the time, if their needs are huge. Such as a Drobo or some kind mass storage NAS unit.
[13:58] <simosx> opieng, there is an autorescue option for grub issues.
[13:58] <Psi-Jack> 3TB is quite a HUGE backup.
[14:00] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[14:00] <Psi-Jack> Getting these kind of warnings so far:
[14:00] <mickymills> opieng > I have had two encounters with Grub, and I fixed both by running grubupdate using the live cd-rom to boot from first hdd
[14:00] <Psi-Jack> dpkg: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 26802 package 'gtk2-engines-pixbuf:i386': 'Depends' field, reference to 'libglib2.0-0': error in version: invalid character in version number
[14:00] <hylian> theadmin: quantal quetzel. I have no idea what that means though. :)
[14:00] <theadmin> hylian: It's always "Adjective Animal"
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> hylian  a quetzal is an exotic bird, like in quetzal coatl
[14:01] <opieng> mickymills, So what do I need to do? I have my orginal CD I installed Ubuntu with. Shall I boot from this?
[14:01] <opieng> How do I get to the grubupdate?
[14:02] <opieng> would really appreciate your help
[14:02] <theadmin> !restoregrub | opieng
[14:03] <mickymills> opieng > Interestingly I get a NTFS error everytime I boot but that is a windows taking over the MBR problem ALSO have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/24479/no-grub-after-installing-ubuntu-beside-windows-7
[14:04] <opieng> I get to stage 2 "Install and run Boot-Repair" but I can't find the boot repair option? Do I need to go past the option of selecting langauge - English etc?
[14:04] <opieng> What is the error msg?
[14:04] <theadmin> opieng: Yes, you need to click "Try Ubuntu" and then install the boot-repair tool...
[14:06] <opieng> mickymills, is it something like "error Prefix not set"
[14:07] <opieng> Ok... "Try Ubuntu without installing"....
[14:07] <MorganTheWretche> Okay, quick question; when is 12.10 being officially released?
[14:07] <mickymills> opieng: no its NTS File System Error ####
[14:07] <MorganTheWretche> Is there a solid release date?
[14:07] <Psi-Jack> MorganTheWretche: When it's ready.
[14:07] <theadmin> MorganTheWretche: 12.10 means "year 12 (2012), month 10 (october)"
[14:08] <MorganTheWretche> ahh, do you think it will be the 1st of October?
[14:08] <i7c> MorganTheWretche: 18.10.2012 i think
[14:08] <theadmin> MorganTheWretche: It's usually closer to the middle or end of the month
[14:08] <MorganTheWretche> Great, thank you
[14:09] <MorganTheWretche> Do you guys have a favourite Calendar app for syncing with Google Calendars?
[14:09] <Queops> Well I user thunderbird
[14:09] <Queops> I use*
[14:10] <Queops> with the calendar addon
[14:10] <MorganTheWretche> Hm, guess I mean more of a standalone Calendar that sits on your desktop
[14:11] <Queops> I get what you mean, an integrated one would be nice
[14:11] <Queops> maybe one that syncs with ubuntuone
[14:11] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Welp. progress continues.. Up to gnu* ;)
[14:11] <MorganTheWretche> Yeah, see, I have my entire university timetable laid out in real time on Google Calendars. It'd be nice to have it sit there
[14:12] <Queops> I use google calendar commonly aswell
[14:12] <MorganTheWretche> Yeah, it's pretty standard. Of course, google discontinued Google Desktop :/
[14:13] <MorganTheWretche> I mean, my Mac has iCal which can grab any Google Calendar feed I want. Thought it'd be common enough to be implemented in Linux
[14:14] <Queops> It's those little things that aren't on ubuntu and other distros
[14:14] <Queops> it will come with time..
[14:15] <user14> Anyone? In what order is it better to set /, swap and /home partitions?
[14:15] <MorganTheWretche> Wish I knew more about Linux programming, I could write my own Calendar application
[14:15] <Queops> user14: I believe it doesn't matter
[14:15] <cfhowlett> user14: agree with queops
[14:15] <Queops> MorganTheWretche: I would suggest trying to extend the already existing clock/calendar app
[14:15] <Queops> That would be epic ;)
[14:16] <Queops> with reminder notifications
[14:16] <user14> And is ext3 any better than ext4?
[14:16] <Queops> using the default notification system
[14:16] <MorganTheWretche> I would if I could write Linux programs.
[14:16] <cfhowlett> user14: no.  ext4 is the default.  unless you have a very good reason to deviate, i'd use it.
[14:17] <Queops> user14: yes, definitely use ext4, it has good new features
[14:17] <Queops> more reliable than ext3
[14:17] <Toph2> is there a file system in linux that windows can see if dual booting?
[14:17] <user14> And do I need to leave / 50 Gb or 30 Gb will be enough?
[14:17] <MorganTheWretche> FAT32?
[14:17] <theadmin> Toph2: NTFS, FAT and FAT32 are nice choices for crossplatform filesharing
[14:18] <opieng> ok repairing.... I hope this works!!!
[14:18] <cfhowlett> user14: default ubuntu install is only about 4 or 5 gigs
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> Toph2  what theadmin says, but don't install ubuntu on it
[14:18] <Toph2> oh, so you can use FAT, NTFS in Linux?
[14:18] <user14> *to leave root partition
[14:18] <Toph2> i see
[14:18] <Queops> Toph2: yes, but make a seperate partition for sharing
[14:18] <Queops> And Ubuntu can mount your windows partition.
[14:18] <Toph2> Queops,,, ok,, good point
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> Toph2  windows recognizes three OSs: windows, windows and windows
[14:18] <MorganTheWretche> *lightbulb* Is Python or Java preinstalled on Ubuntu distros? If so, I could write an application in those languages.
[14:19] <Queops> python is pre installed
[14:19] <Queops> java isnt
[14:19] <MorganTheWretche> ahh
[14:19] <velho> GOSH, I just wish the learning curve in linux was shorter...
[14:19] <Queops> MorganTheWretche: take a look http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> velho  than what?
[14:19] <MorganTheWretche> thanks
[14:19] <Queops> Many informations there, specially if you follow links
[14:20] <MorganTheWretche> The only thing that scares me is, sometimes it seems like if you write a program based on GNOME, it won't work on KUbuntu and vica versa
[14:21] <Queops> Kubuntu is basically KDE, Qt
[14:21] <Queops> Gnome uses GTK
[14:21] <MorganTheWretche> yep
[14:21] <Queops> You can use the apps on both platforms though
[14:21] <Queops> the visual aspect will most likely be a little derpy though
[14:22] <Queops> specially GTK apps on KDE if I remember
[14:22] <MorganTheWretche> Hm, still, if I wanted some degree of... say taskbar notification functions... It may not work with both. Is that correct?
[14:22] <Queops> Most likely
[14:22] <Queops> Depends on which APi you are using
[14:22] <MorganTheWretche> Alright, I like a challenge. Thanks for the pointers.
[14:22] <Queops> There's so much stuff out there I don't even know
[14:22] <Queops> hehe
[14:23] <Queops> KDE uses a different calendar application as well MorganTheWretche
[14:24] <theadmin> Anyway, I have to go off, see y'all
[14:24] <MorganTheWretche> Hm, I'll probably choose to develop for GNOME or even Unity
[14:24] <baizon> nice to hear
[14:25] <Queops> Oh MorganTheWretche I forgot, if you don't use Thunderbird you can take a look at evolution, I don't know how integrated it is atm but evolution used to have some kind of calendar intregation with the default calendar app i think
[14:25] <MorganTheWretche> alright, I'll look into it
[14:25] <opieng> Ok, the boot repair has seem to work, I hope it doesn't get lost again
[14:25] <Guest6272> what is the best version of ubuntu/linux for a presario F763NR Notebook PC s/n CNF81561KH p/n KW061UA#ABA; Microprocessor1.90 GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-57; Memory 1024 MB; Memory MaxUp to 3GB DDR2; Video GraphicsNVIDIA GeForce 7000M; Video MemoryUp to 287 MB; Hard Drive120 GB (5400 rpm); Keyboard101-key compatible ... i have been at this for days (12.04)and it is still saying no operating system found... im starting
[14:25] <Queops> MorganTheWretche: Unity session still uses the gnome environment, just not the gnome shell
[14:26] <opieng> By the way whats the easiest and safest way to uninstall my Ubuntu dual boot i I needed to?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: you DID checksum your iso, right?
[14:26] <vespakoen> Hey guys, I am using network time, on ubuntu, timezone is set allright, but the time is 12 hours off, any ideas what's going on?
[14:26] <MorganTheWretche> Hm, when I say Unity, I mean... perhaps some degree of integration with that panel. Maybe a tab system.
[14:26] <Queops> opieng: I usually boot into Windows 7, delete the partition there and restore the MBR with EasyBCD (google it)
[14:27] <Queops> To restore the MBR use the Write MBR somewhere on the program
[14:27] <opieng> oh as easy as that, and does it get rid of the Grub2
[14:27] <Queops> It's my favorite method
[14:27] <Queops> if you just have a machine with ubuntu and windows 7 for example yes
[14:27] <opieng> and keep everything with windows happy
[14:28] <talsamon> hello
[14:28] <talsamon>  hallo, since Opera 12.02 i have the problem that the java-plugin doesn't run, i can see it in about:plugins, it's Ubuntu 12.04, the links seem to be set right, all other plugins works, java is 1.6.0_35, any idea please
[14:28] <Queops> opieng: it might seem that EasyBCD is paid but its not for personal use http://neosmart.net/download.php?id=1
[14:29] <Queops> I miseed a comma there, I hope you got the idea though lol
[14:29] <Guest6272> what is the best version of ubuntu/linux for a presario F763NR Notebook PC s/n CNF81561KH p/n KW061UA#ABA; Microprocessor1.90 GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-57; Memory 1024 MB; Memory MaxUp to 3GB DDR2; Video GraphicsNVIDIA GeForce 7000M; Video MemoryUp to 287 MB; Hard Drive120 GB (5400 rpm); Keyboard101-key compatible ... i have been at this for days (12.04)and it is still saying no operating system found... im starting
[14:29] <opieng> yep, thanks Queops
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: DID YOU checksum the iso?
[14:30] <Guest6272> i im'd you and asked you how to do that
[14:30] <Guest6272> !
[14:30] <bazhang> !md5 | Guest6272
[14:30] <MorganTheWretche> fyi, my twitter if anyone wants to hear geeky rants... https://twitter.com/MorgansCode
[14:30] <bazhang> !hashes > Guest6272
[14:30] <bazhang> MorganTheWretche, stay on topic please
[14:30] <neobenedict> what's !hashes?
[14:30] <neobenedict> !hashes > neobenedict
[14:31] <neobenedict> makes sense.
[14:31] <bazhang> neobenedict, /msg ubottu hashes
[14:31] <cfhowlett> Guest6272:  reason why you should:  downloads sometimes get screwy.  A screwy iso will give you a screwy installation.
[14:31] <neobenedict> any bot command list somewhere?
[14:31] <bazhang> neobenedict, /msg ubottu factoids
[14:31] <Queops> Guest6272: and if you are burning into a CD try burning it at a lower speed
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> neobenedict  http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[14:32] <Guest6272> i have access to cd-rs, dvd-rws, 8 gb usb, and an external hd... what would be best?
[14:33] <bazhang> Guest6272, the usb stick and unetbootin
[14:33] <Adie> usb in my opinion
[14:33] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: There is no "best" of anything. Best is a measure of your own personal and unique opinion of what you consider best for you, and could be in multiple different scenarios. It is more useful to ask more specific questions you have.
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: for convenience, usb
[14:33] <deadmund> Guest6272: Tough choice... not the cd-r (can't erase it).
[14:33] <bazhang> !unetbootin | Guest6272
[14:33] <deadmund> Guest6272: Probably usb is fastest
[14:33]  * Psi-Jack still uses CDR to this day.
[14:34] <Sachiru> !hashes > Sachiru
[14:34] <Guest6272> should i use a certain application to put it onto the usb?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: unetbootin
[14:34] <deadmund> unetbootin ftw
[14:34] <Guest6272> ?
[14:35] <Adie> you asked what application to use, two people said "unetbootin"
[14:35] <Adie> ^_^
[14:36] <Guest6272> should i format the usb in any particular way?
[14:36] <Guest6272> im a noob..
[14:36] <Psi-Jack> Adie: Actually, only 1 person said it.
[14:36] <Queops> Guest6272: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ these are my favorite ones
[14:36] <Psi-Jack> Adie: The ohyer was a bot. :p
[14:36] <Adie> o
[14:36] <Queops> Linux live usb does all the work for you, including formatting the usb drive
[14:36] <Queops> and so do the others
[14:36] <Queops> but I know for a fact that linux live usb checks the checksum
[14:37] <Guest6272> cool deal
[14:37] <Queops> But, windows only
[14:37] <Queops> if you are on linux get unetbootin or something
[14:37] <bnwkeys> Noob question alert!  I need to manually install my wifi driver on a laptop, that has a fresh ubuntu install.  I don't have a wired internet connection to use, and I can't find a driver download center in the support.  Am I missing something here?
[14:37] <Adie> if using unetbootin, I think it should be fat32
[14:37] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: So, is there a particular reason you specifically used a guest nick with those specific numbers? :p
[14:37] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: is this for a  broadcom wifi?
[14:38] <Adie> it never seemed to format my usb drives on its own
[14:38] <Psi-Jack> Cause auto-generated nicks have 5 digits, not 4.
[14:38] <Queops> cfhowlett: I think you will win with that guess :P
[14:38] <Guest6272> im making it on windows 7 but the comp that needs it came with vista but currently has nothing
[14:38]  * cfhowlett bets $1
[14:38] <bnwkeys> i think it is a broadcom wifi, the laptop is a dell inspiron 1501
[14:38]  * Queops bets cfhowlett's one dollar
[14:38] <Queops> Bingo!
[14:39] <Guest6272> i couldnt figure out how to create an account
[14:39] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: yep.  bcom43**.  you're in luck.  you can do it all the installation directly from the boot media.  wait one.
[14:39] <Guest6272> at psi
[14:39] <Adie> Guest6272, unetbootin is an application that will put a ubuntu .iso on the flash drive in such a way that you can boot from it
[14:39] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: /nick newnick
[14:39] <Psi-Jack> And wait a sec...
[14:40] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[14:40] <Queops> Adie: does unetbootin check the hash?
[14:40] <Psi-Jack> This channel forwards to #ubuntu-unregged, but it seems that it's not defaultly account restricted.
[14:40] <Adie> Queops, no
[14:41] <Queops> Guest6272: since your previous download was corrupted and you are not comfortable on how to verify the ISO integrity just use the linuxlive one
[14:41] <Queops> At least we assume it was.
[14:42] <Guest6272> mtay
[14:42] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: grr.  China is throttling internet again, so my connection is too slow to do the search.  here's the deal; your boot cdrom/usb has 5 files that you can copy to your desktop. then use terminal to install them, modprobe to activate and you've got internet.  Takes about 5 minutes.  Search: ubuntu + broadcom + no internet access   this might be a good link  http://www.ehow.com/how_7296322_install-driver-network-ubuntu-10_4.html
[14:43] <Queops> Guest6272: don't forget to tell us how it went ;)
[14:43] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: or this one  http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdVF2wURQgz0A2wVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0NHFhYWRrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOARjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA1FJMDA3XzEzOQ--/SIG=12ugrumog/EXP=1346712054/**http%3a//naveenubuntu.blogspot.com/2011/01/broadcom-sta-wireless-driver.html
[14:44] <bnwkeys> cfhowlett: thanks a bunch, that's a lot of help, hopefully this frankensteined dell laptop will be cruising on ubuntu in no time :D
[14:44] <Queops> bnwkeys: I had to do that with my laptop as well
[14:44] <Psi-Jack> Well, this is trucking on along reinstalling all packages now that it's hit the lib*
[14:45] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: it's actually a pretty slick fix.  also, better than compiling the driver from broadcom.
[14:45] <Queops> True
[14:45] <opieng> can I install pyqt4 on a virtual machine Ubuntu install?
[14:45] <Queops> I remember just dpkg -i the package
[14:45] <Queops> and it worked for me
[14:45] <bnwkeys> sweet, sounds good
[14:45] <Queops> opieng: virtual machine or not pyqt4 should be available
[14:45] <cfhowlett> !who
[14:46] <gyre007> I have come across an interesting issue on ubuntu...I create a massive file (ie around 5G) and when I run df -h NO SPACE seems to have been taken by that file
[14:46] <gyre007> uhhh
[14:46] <gyre007> wtf
[14:46] <iwak-piyek> histo, i wanna say thank you, for ubuntu developer. great job. my cdma modem SpeedUp E2700E is working correctly.
[14:46] <opieng> I get two error msgs..
[14:46] <gyre007> :)
[14:46] <FloodBot1> gyre007: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:46] <cfhowlett> bnwkeys: STA - No Internet Access section of this  http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[14:46] <iwak-piyek> for ubuntu developer i mean
[14:47] <opieng> unable to open lock file and unable to lock administration directory
[14:47] <bikram> hi [10:37] <bikram> bikram@bikram-Vostro-3400:~$ sudo update-grub Generating grub.cfg ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-32-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-32-generic Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin done [10:38] <bikram> is showing after I installed ubuntu over windows 7 [10:38] <bikram> wi
[14:47] <gyre007> the way I created a file was: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/test_monitor bs=1 count=0 seek=4G
[14:47] <ozette> I'm using Windows 7 in a vm, how can I bring files over from host to guest without something like dropbox?
[14:48] <Guest6272> should i re download the iso since it didnt work b4?
[14:48] <Psi-Jack> Ozette: share.
[14:48] <ozette> share a folder?
[14:48] <ThinkT510> ozette: thats what shared folders are for
[14:48] <ratcheer> Guest6272: Did you check the md5sum?
[14:48] <iwak-piyek> ozette, install samba and share
[14:48] <Psi-Jack> File systems do not have folders.
[14:48] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: only if the hashcheck doesn't match.  Also, use the .torrent download method - fewer download problems
[14:49] <Psi-Jack> No need for Samba.
[14:49] <opieng> how can I post the error msgs can you can see them?
[14:49] <ozette> Yea I'd like to do it without samba
[14:49] <Queops> cfhowlett: I think with torrent it never goes corrupted right?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !paste|opieng:
[14:49] <abhinavmehta> I'm having few machines in my local LAN(wifi network) using mac/win/ubuntu. Recently, I found that at times my ubuntu machine stops responding to local ping requests randomly after running sometime…does anyone know, why this happens..?
[14:49] <ozette> I'll see what I can do, thank you
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Queops: never say never, but I've had no such problem
[14:49] <abhinavmehta> or how to resolve this, without restarting the machine…BTW after restart things get auto restored.
[14:49] <Queops> cfhowlett: you made me worried now :p
[14:50] <Psi-Jack> ozette: VirtualBox can share local files as if it were on a network.
[14:50] <cfhowlett> Queops: hey just my opinion.  YMMV
[14:50] <abhinavmehta> ANYONE, on why ubuntu machine stop responding to local computers…while internet is working on that machine.
[14:51] <Guest6272> which is easiest for people that dont speak too much computer ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, or lubuntu??? i need the computer for college and gaming..
[14:51] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: Describe the actual nature of the problem, in detail.
[14:51] <bnwkeys> queops: you probably already know this, but i use hash checksums if I'm concerned about important firmware files being corrupted, like md5 checksum
[14:51] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: They're all about the same.
[14:51] <Queops> cfhowlett: found an answer, see the first one http://superuser.com/questions/335182/how-does-a-downloaded-iso-get-corrupted
[14:52] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: Please get an actual nick using /nick <somenewnick?, because there's 15 other Guest* users here.
[14:52] <yeats> Guest6272: it's totally a matter of opinion, but xubuntu or kde would probably be closer to windows behavior (in my opinion ;-) )
[14:52] <ozette> Psi-Jack, ok thanks
[14:52] <cfhowlett> Guest6272: mouse is a mouse, file is a file ... the differences between desktop environments are pretty much cosmetic
[14:52] <Queops> cfhowlett: my guess is that it will only corrupt if the machine is with anomalies beforehand hehe
[14:52] <abhinavmehta> Its simple Psi-Jack , as I said….my ubuntu box stops responding to local ping/ssh requests after running sometime…though it could access the internet via same local wifi router…but it doesn't respond to local system pings.
[14:52] <SAngeli> is it possible to share via samva /var/www ?
[14:52] <tonsofpcs> sure, why not
[14:52] <SAngeli> samba
[14:53] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: No, you didn't /say/ that before. you just said "stops responding to local computers" which by itself made no sense.
[14:53] <cfhowlett> Queops: you might be right about that.
[14:53] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: ok my mistake…no this the story, how can we solve this..?
[14:53] <abhinavmehta> *no=now
[14:53] <yeats> abhinavmehta: have you checked your logs for any relevant error messages?
[14:53] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: So, ping doesn't even work?
[14:53] <Guest6272> step 4 options has hide created file on key checked and format the key in fat32 unchecked... do i need to change either one?
[14:53] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: nope..
[14:54] <abhinavmehta> yeats: nope
[14:54] <hammommah> i have media centre in lounge room, lubuntu xbmc with nfs share's. I have lubuntu ltsp server running thin clients for my kids. Whats the best way to share certain shares off media center to kids with ro permissions? can you mount nfs shares on thin clients on boot?
[14:54] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: Are you trying to ping by LAN IP, or by name?
[14:54] <yeats> abhinavmehta: /var/log/auth.log, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/daemon.log, etc.
[14:54] <Guest6272> aqnd psi... ive told u several times that if i knew how to change my name i would
[14:54] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: by ip
[14:54] <AdvoWork> When I send mail from PHP (sendmail) for some reason, its showing the from, to, subject ok, but its showing the Sent time as 1st Jan 1970. Any idea what that could be?
[14:54] <abhinavmehta> yeats: sure..give me a sec
[14:54] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: I've TOLD You how: /nick newnick
[14:54] <ThinkT510> Guest6272: /nick whateveryoulike
[14:54] <opieng> imagebin.org/227018 here is the error messages when trying to install pyqt4
[14:55] <Psi-Jack> Guest6272: That's 4 times you've been told. 3 by me alone. :p
[14:55] <Guest6272> obviously that wasnt enough description or i wouldve done it..
[14:55] <ryuguns> Hey
[14:55] <SAngeli> is it possible to share folders like /var/www (for website folder) via SAMBA?
[14:55] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli: Filesystems do not have folders. Laundry rooms have folders. Filesystems have directories.
[14:56] <ThinkT510> Guest6272: you can type into your irc client
[14:56] <mneptok> Psi-Jack: let's avoid pedantry, hmm?
[14:56] <SAngeli> ok, Psi-Jack  than can I share a directories so I can access them via windows?
[14:56] <Guest6272> think u helpful person
[14:56] <Psi-Jack> mneptok: I'll only provide help to people that want to be accurate enough not to use "folder" instead of "directory", but thanks anyway. ;)
[14:57] <Queops> Folder is pretty acceptable for me
[14:57] <mneptok> SAngeli: any directory is able to be shared. just watch permissions.
[14:57] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli: Of course you can, using Samba.
[14:57] <Guest6272> i never said the word folder or directory
[14:57] <SAngeli> Ok I needed to know.
[14:57] <ThinkT510> Guest6272: so what is so difficult about typing /nick whateveryouwant
[14:57] <hammommah> i have media centre in lounge room, lubuntu xbmc with nfs share's. I have lubuntu ltsp server running thin clients for my kids. Whats the best way to share certain shares off media center to kids with ro permissions? can you mount nfs shares on thin clients on boot?
[14:57] <SAngeli> I now have to learn how to
[14:57] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli: However. permissions will be a PITA, but you can override those with samba options.
[14:57] <SAngeli> ok
[14:57] <Harlin> possible to share ext4 with Windows?
[14:57] <Psi-Jack> Keep that in mind. :)
[14:57] <mneptok> Psi-Jack: provide help to whom you like. but avoid snarky pedantic comments that do not further this channel's aim of friendly support. and now i'm not asking, i'm telling.
[14:57] <Psi-Jack> Harlin: No
[14:57] <SAngeli> I have to search for a good resource for learning howto
[14:57] <Harlin> ok didn't think so
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Harlin: nope
[14:58] <yeats> !samba | SAngeli
[14:58] <Queops> I agree with mneptok, forgive us SAngeli :)
[14:58] <Queops> Or rather forgive psi :P
[14:58] <SAngeli> ok
[14:58] <Psi-Jack> No, don't forgive me. ;)
[14:58] <voodoofacehole> precisely mne.. im not going to communicate with u respectfully if you dont
[14:58] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: yeats: here are the logs: http://bpaste.net/show/B8fuQrG1wyHMmmEDbRCL/ http://bpaste.net/show/8s4QlO85Bti75rymyhXb/
[14:58] <Psi-Jack> I'm going to be whom I've been for the past 20 years regardless of anyone else. ;)
[14:59] <SAngeli> thank you yeats
[14:59] <voodoofacehole> i learned to ignore people like that a couple decades ago
[14:59] <ThinkT510> voodoofacehole: can we stick to support
[14:59] <abhinavmehta> plz tell me, if I'm missing something
[15:00] <ratcheer> Samba is easy?
[15:00] <Psi-Jack> Anything is "easy" once you take the time to learn it. :)
[15:00] <voodoofacehole> thats what im trying to do
[15:00] <ratcheer> Psi-Jack: I've tried to learn Samba many times. I always end up going back to ssh.
[15:01] <voodoofacehole> only bad question is the one you didnt ask
[15:01] <mneptok> ratcheer: not a bad idea. SFTP is far more secure.
[15:01] <ratcheer> mneptok: +1
[15:01] <drcube`> 09:59 <abhinavmehta> plz tell me, if I'm missing something
[15:02] <Psi-Jack> ratcheer: Samba's pretty easy, like I said, once you take the time to learn it. Samba has two major things about it. 1> It provides CIFS shares that other OS's can access, 2> For Samba to Samba, it provides POSIX extentions over it, so Linux to Linux, it will maintain a level of your standard Linux permissions.
[15:02] <Harlin> have to admit... I used Mint 12 for the last year due to the perceived "better looks" .. was starting to think a Linux desktop superior to Mac and/or Windows 7 was not possible yet... however Ub 12 has opened my eyes ... very good job ... I think it's much better interface/experience compared to mac/win
[15:02] <abhinavmehta> drcube: what does that mean..?
[15:02] <voodoofacehole> step 4 options has hide created file on key checked and format the key in fat32 unchecked... do i need to change either one?
[15:02] <Calinou> !mint
[15:02] <Harlin> Mint 12/13 was good but this is much better
[15:02] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: can you help me in that regard..?
[15:02] <Queops> Harlin: wait until 12.10 comes around, it sure does promises
[15:02] <Queops> promise*
[15:02] <Psi-Jack> abhinavmehta: I haven't enough information to go with here.
[15:02] <Calinou> !offtopic | Harlin
[15:02] <Calinou> Queops, yeah, more slowness
[15:03] <Calinou> :}
[15:03] <Calinou> and wifi bugs
[15:03] <Harlin> ;-)
[15:03] <abhinavmehta> Psi-Jack: ok np..thank you.
[15:03] <Queops> Calinou: derp! I don't think so
[15:03] <Harlin> in case anyone considering ;-)
[15:03] <Calinou> any distro is better than mac/win anyway :P
[15:03] <Queops> Calinou: I only blame broadcom
[15:03] <Calinou> I prefer rolling release distros though (i use debian wheezy :P)
[15:03] <Queops> Broadcom seems to be the major source of problems on wifi for people
[15:04] <SirDidi> i have a connection problem on ubuntu... a ping to google -> http://pastebin.com/D042GnPB on windows and other devices it works
[15:04] <cfhowlett> Queops: atheros is right up there too
[15:04] <SirDidi> what can i do?
[15:04] <Queops> yeh atheros too!
[15:04] <abhinavmehta> don't want to offend you…but don't understand why people get holistic about os'es(ubuntu/mac/win) etc..
[15:04] <Queops> abhinavmehta: because people like to be productive, others like e-peens
[15:04] <ratcheer> Psi-Jack: Yes, that is where I usually lose it with Samba. Special Samba user accounts, special Samba permissions, and of course, special Samba firewall settings.
[15:04] <lmg_> SirDidi, can you go on google when typing the ip in your address bar?
[15:04] <Queops> I'm partially kidding ;)
[15:04] <cfhowlett> SirDidi: any DNS changes?
[15:05] <Harlin> abhinavmehta, well i only like to use one at a time (at least 80% of the time), so it's very important to me. And it's ok... there always has to be a "best" ;-)
[15:05] <Rickardo1> How can I solve this? Can't locate Module/Implementation.pm in @INC (@INC contains: . lib/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at lib/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi/Params/Validate.pm line 12.
[15:05] <SirDidi> lmg_, yes
[15:05] <Harlin> Rickardo1, looks like a Perl question
[15:05] <SirDidi> cfhowlett, nope
[15:05] <Harlin> #perl
[15:05] <lmg_> SirDidi, okay, it's your dns then.
[15:05] <Calinou> clear your DNS cache maybe
[15:05] <SirDidi> lmg_, it works also google.com
[15:05] <abhinavmehta> Queops: I guess, you can pretty much do anything on any os….I hardly believe that os in-particular makes you productive or unproductive….it's just a different way of doing the things.
[15:06] <lmg_> SirDidi, oh
[15:06] <abhinavmehta> exception to win
[15:06] <lmg_> SirDidi, What's the problem then?
[15:06] <hammommah> anyone with info on how to mount nfs shares on ubuntu thin clients?
[15:06] <SirDidi> lmg_, it take a lot of time
[15:06] <lmg_> SirDidi, oh, the 44% packet loss
[15:06] <lmg_> SirDidi, No idea then
[15:06] <SirDidi> lmg_, and sometimes it didnt work
[15:06] <Harlin> abhinavmehta, heh i started a support job and a mac seriously impeded my ability to be "productive"
[15:06] <SirDidi> lmg_, kk
[15:06] <Queops> abhinavmehta: for some people some environments just don't cut it, thats mainly why
[15:06] <Harlin> abhinavmehta, a great company, heck they issue $3000 macbook pros but they suck for what i do.
[15:07] <Calinou> huge packet losses occur randomly for me, regardless of OS
[15:07] <Calinou> blame your ISP
[15:07] <bazhang> !ot | Harlin abhinavmehta
[15:07] <cfhowlett> hammommah: I THINK it might be in here:  help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[15:07] <Queops> some go through the trouble of modifying to their tastes, others just find the default environment good enough (lucky people those that do)
[15:07] <abhinavmehta> Harlin: thats the lack of awareness…not something wrong with macs, I guess.
[15:07] <Calinou> haven't been slapped with !ot \o/
[15:07] <Calinou> (I'm banned from there anyway)
[15:07] <SirDidi> Calinou, it only happens on ubuntu
[15:07] <bazhang> Queops, thats enough
[15:07] <Harlin> abhinavmehta, a good point. it's probably me ;-)
[15:08] <abhinavmehta> Queops: agree a bit about env…, but that doesn't mean some os is bad/good…coz it doesn't suits your personal taste..!
[15:08] <ThinkT510> abhinavmehta: stop it
[15:09] <Harlin> always subjective
[15:09] <bazhang> abhinavmehta, take the chit chat elsewhere please
[15:09] <a8s0lut0> Hello all!  I would like to run the open source ATI driver (radeon/radeonhd) but it appears "vesa" is what xubuntu is running out of the box.
[15:09] <Harlin> mesa the way to go a8s0lut0
[15:09] <abhinavmehta> sorry if I offended anyone here.
[15:11] <abhinavmehta> anyways, anyone here can help me with local ping requests issue ??
[15:11] <yeats> abhinavmehta: from your log it looks like your wifi is getting disconnected periodically
[15:11] <Harlin> http://tinyurl.com/d8mzple a8s0lut0
[15:12] <abhinavmehta> yeats: guess thats fine, if  I'm able to access internet…but if I could connect to internet, why not local systems..?
[15:12] <yeats> abhinavmehta: I don't understand your question...
[15:12] <abhinavmehta> because if I could connect to internet, that means my ubuntu machine is able to connect the local network.
[15:13] <abhinavmehta> lcoal network=wifi
[15:13] <abhinavmehta> and if I could access my wifi router, than why not local-machines..?
[15:13] <abhinavmehta> please tell me, if I'm making mistake
[15:14] <yeats> abhinavmehta: from the log, it appears that the wifi is getting disconnected, which *should* mean that the machine wouldn't be able to get anywhere
[15:14] <sl3ax> hi to all! Can anyone help me with sed ? This is my question (a bit long). http://pastebin.com/DuMX5r6p
[15:15] <abhinavmehta> yeats: correct, if that was the case…but on this ubuntu machine I'm running torrent-server, which is always connected to internet(as I can see downloads/uploads)….so it's not the condition not *get anywhere*
[15:15] <Queops> sl3ax: ##sed
[15:15] <Psi-Jack> oi,,, Torrent. Nuff said. :(
[15:15] <voodoofacehole> do i have to have the hide created files on key option checked in step 4 of linuxlive usb?
[15:15] <sl3ax> Queops: I've asked, but noone answers.
[15:15] <Queops> voodoofacehole: not really, any will do
[15:16] <yeats> abhinavmehta: no idea, then - I'm just reading your log
[15:16] <abhinavmehta> yeats: ok..thank you…keenly looking forward. :)
[15:16] <a8s0lut0> Harlin, that link is instructions for fglrx, isn't there an open source version I can try first?
[15:16] <Queops> sl3ax: maybe you could try some forum or be a bit more patient then
[15:17] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: the open source driver is called 'radeon'
[15:17] <sl3ax> Queops: ok. Do you know any sed specific forum?
[15:17] <Queops> no, sorry
[15:17] <a8s0lut0> deadmund,   how do i verify i'm running that, or run it if i'm not?
[15:18] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: Look at the output of lspci -k  under your grahpics card for the 'driver in use'
[15:18] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: If you have trouble reading it pastebinit and i"ll interpret it: paste.ubuntu.com
[15:18] <a8s0lut0> ah, says kernel driver in use: radeon
[15:19] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: there's ur answer.  If you don't trust it use lsmod | grep radeon
[15:19] <a8s0lut0> well i used the compiz-check util @ forlong.blogage.de/article/pages/Compiz-Check which says vesa
[15:19] <user__> hello
[15:19] <cfhowlett> user__: greetings
[15:19] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: Just lspci and lsmod over compiz-check
[15:20] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: **trust lspci and lsmod over compiz-check**
[15:20] <a8s0lut0> cool, thanks for the help... doesn't tell me why compiz basically doesn't work
[15:20] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: what do you  mean it doesn't work?
[15:21] <a8s0lut0> well i'm using XFCE in xubuntu, and when i do a "compiz --replace ccp" i can't really use the window manager at all, windows act werid
[15:22] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: Can you be more specific?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> a8s0lut0  compiz in xubuntu?
[15:22] <a8s0lut0> yea, running compiz in 12.04 xubuntu
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> a8s0lut0  the strangst combination, is it even possible?
[15:23] <deadmund> yes!
[15:23] <i7c> MonkeyDust: it is.
[15:23] <deadmund> it's possible!
[15:23] <a8s0lut0> uh, i guess not? haha
[15:23] <deadmund> It is VERY POSSIBLE
[15:23] <a8s0lut0> maybe i haven't configured it correctly?
[15:23] <krababbel> impossible
[15:23] <db6sda8> help
[15:23] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: Well, you're going to have to be more specific than, "it's weird"
[15:24] <i7c> deadmund: i guess he hasn't enabled any plugins so that he can't even move/resize windows
[15:24] <a8s0lut0> i'll run it now and be more specific, but i have trouble coming back from it / disabling.
[15:24] <deadmund> i7c: maybe
[15:24]  * cfhowlett xfce is for quite simple graphic displays.  compiz is eye candy.  So why...?  Never mind.
[15:24] <a8s0lut0> yeah there weren't many plugins enabled by default
[15:25] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: there ya go!
[15:25] <user__> can i install zorin os shell on ubuntu ?
[15:25] <user__> is it possible ?
[15:25] <SAngeli_> when samba is running but from windows I am unable to access the shared resources, when asked to provide username and password, what does it mean? What is that I am doing wrong? I am trying to share /var/www
[15:25] <SAngeli_> I see the ubuntu server but not its shares
[15:26] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli_: smbpasswd is needed to add users to the Samba password database.
[15:26] <SAngeli_> I uses it from withing the user shell. I just typed smbpasswd, Psi-Jack   is there a different way to seup usrname and password?
[15:26] <a8s0lut0> deadmund, i can't move any windows around because the titlebar areas all disappear
[15:27] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli_: You have to add a user, first, such as smbpasswd -a <username>
[15:27] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: that's the window decorator plugin.  Make sure it's on!
[15:27] <SAngeli_> I see, Psi-Jack thanks
[15:27] <a8s0lut0> just ran it with some plugins enabled (gnome compat enabled as welll), did see some hot wobbling action
[15:27] <Psi-Jack> SAngeli_: You will need to do that as root.
[15:27] <vespa> ciao
[15:27] <SAngeli_> ok
[15:27] <vespa> !list
[15:27] <bnwkeys> OK, so I'm starting to get frustrated :(  It says all the packages i need for my wifi driver are installed, but when i try to view my hardware drivers to enable the broadcom drivers, i don't see anything at all listed
[15:27] <citymaj> i cant access my root folder....beginner
[15:27] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: great, it's working.  Now you just have to turn on / configure the right plugins.  Def turn on window decorations.  You can also hold down alt and click + drag windows even without the decorator
[15:28] <Queops> bnwkeys: did you use modprobe yet?
[15:28] <deadmund> bnwkeys: Hi.  I'm great with broadcom drivers.  What chipset do you have?  (do you know what I'm talking about?)
[15:28] <lickalott> citymaj sudo cd /
[15:28] <lickalott> or sudo passwd root, then set a root password
[15:28] <citymaj> treminal?
[15:28] <citymaj> terminal
[15:28] <bnwkeys> queops no i haven't used mobprobe yet, what does that do.
[15:28] <lickalott> true
[15:28] <citymaj> thanks
[15:29] <a8s0lut0> deadmund, awesome! that brought the titlebars back, still can't drag around.  will mess around..
[15:29] <Queops> bnwkeys: deadmund will help you, I loved his/her introduction to you haha
[15:29] <deadmund> bnwkeys: modprobe inserts drivers into the kernel (makes drivers work)
[15:29] <deadmund> his*
[15:29] <bnwkeys> deadmund: the chipset should be for inspiron 1501, not sure the specifics atm, its an amd 64 processor
[15:29] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: there is another plugin called 'move'
[15:29] <deadmund> bnwkeys: I meant the chipset of the wifi device.  You can find it in sudo lspci -k   If it's too much to read you can use paste.ubuntu.com and I'll help read it.
[15:30] <Queops> deadmund: if the drivers aren't loaded will lspci have the info?
[15:30] <deadmund> Queops: It'll show the chipset and the drivers that are installed (not being used even) and the one being used.
[15:30] <a8s0lut0> deadmund, lol wow, a plugin for "move".  That worked!  Maybe I should pull out the compiz "manual"
[15:31] <AdvoWork> When I send mail from PHP (sendmail) for some reason, its showing the from, to, subject ok, but its showing the Sent time as 1st Jan 1970. Any idea what that could be?
[15:31] <bnwkeys> deadmund: thanks, quitting cigarettes + learning linux = bad thoughts, lol.  Hold tight, let me get that chipset info
[15:31] <deadmund> a8s0lut0: haha  I think that gui configuring thing is the manual
[15:31] <deadmund> bnwkeys: Take your time :)
[15:31] <deadmund> :P
[15:32] <Queops> deadmund: oh it must use the identifiers of the devices to match to some hardware list
[15:32] <deadmund> Queops: Indeed it does.
[15:32] <Queops> deadmund: I was wondering because once I wasn't able to get a device model
[15:32] <Queops> hehe
[15:32] <deadmund> Queops: The system actually probes the hardware. Looks up the names in some list, then inserts modules based on what it finds.  That's why it's so easy to install new hardware in linux usually
[15:33] <Queops> deadmund: definitely
[15:34] <acioname> i have a problem with nvidia card driver i get this error when i was trying to install a program with apt-get command via terminal http://pastebin.com/t8VFvZha
[15:35] <equex> which compiz plugin is it that makes you zoom out to see the workspaces when you press ctrl alt arrowdown, and then you can scroll left and right and zoom in ?
[15:35] <TheLordOfTime> acioname:  did you read the logfile it indicates?
[15:35] <deadmund> equex: it starts with an e... I can't remember...
[15:36] <bnwkeys> deadmund: nework controller: Broadcom Corp BCM4311, 802.11b/g WLAN rev01, ethernet controller: Broadcom Corp BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX rev02
[15:36] <user14> If /home is like Documents and Settings, what separate partition can I make for storing my files?
[15:36] <deadmund> bnwkeys: the bcm4311 is your wifi.  I have the same one!!
[15:36] <deadmund> bnwkeys: What (if you know) have you installed?  (what was listed in lspci -k for the device's modules or drivers?)
[15:37] <acioname> TheLordOfTime:yes
[15:37] <TheLordOfTime> acioname:  and?
[15:37] <deadmund> equex: expo!
[15:37] <deadmund> equex: it's called expo, similar to mac "expose`'
[15:37] <bnwkeys> deadmund: b43-pci-bridge, wl ssb
[15:37] <acioname> TheLordOfTime: look http://pastebin.com/hyvvkXKr
[15:38] <krababbel> user14: any you want?
[15:38] <deadmund> bnwkeys: We need the b43 driver.  Hang on a second.  Is the target machine connected to the Internet in some way?
[15:38] <bnwkeys> d
[15:38] <deadmund> d?
[15:38] <bnwkeys> target machine has no internet
[15:39] <deadmund> bnwkeys: The easiest way to do it is to get online (only briefly).  Can you do that?
[15:39] <bnwkeys> deadmund: i don't have a wired connection, i'm sitting on a neighbor's wifi, using my desktop compy
[15:39] <deadmund> bnwkeys: alright, let's try this first.  sudo modprobe b43   (although I don't think it will work).
[15:40] <user14> krababbel, can I PM you?
[15:40] <krababbel> user14: just ask here
[15:40] <bnwkeys> deadmund: i go no print in terminal, i guess it didn't do anything
[15:40] <Ebbers> My input sound is working but not my output sound. Any ideas OS= Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:40] <Queops> bnwkeys: i think it did :)
[15:40] <deadmund> bnwkeys: If it outputs nothing that means it's good news.
[15:40] <Queops> :D
[15:40] <user14> krababbel, alright, what mount point can I use then?
[15:40] <bnwkeys> lol
[15:40] <jared_> hello all. I am using a dv9925nr with nforce 630m chipset. after installing all drivers i can hear audio through audio jacks but not onboard speakers. If anyone has any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated
[15:40] <deadmund> bnwkeys: Do you have wifi right now?
[15:41] <Queops> bnwkeys: try to connect now
[15:41] <reduz2> HELP: Using Ubuntu 12.04. DNS Resolutions are broken in both computers I have running 12.04, suddendly DNS stops resolving, while the other (Windows) computers on the network run ok. Any idea what is going on?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> reduz2, using network manager ?
[15:41] <krababbel> user14: /home/user14 would be your usual home dir. So the mount point would be the same. I never did this after setup. Have you already installed Ubuntu?
[15:41] <usr13> reduz2: What do you see in /etc/resolv.conf?   nameserver 127.0.0.1 ?
[15:42] <citymaj> lickalott i changed the passwd like you said but still cant access root folder
[15:42] <bnwkeys> que/dead: I have the wifi network section listed under the network manager finally! but it says "device not ready (firmware missing)"
[15:42] <user14> krababbel, no, I've already spent a day planning partitions =(
[15:42] <krababbel> user14: You would mount /dev/sda2 /home for example, or even /home/user
[15:42] <reduz2> user14, no, many "nameserver" lines
[15:42] <deadmund> bnwkeys: We'll be following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access   (b43 with no internet access on target machine)  If you want, because it is noisy in here, you can PM me.
[15:42] <usr13> reduz2: What is the first one?
[15:42] <deadmund> bnwkeys: I thought it would say that.
[15:42] <reduz2> usr13, nameserver 200.42.4.203
[15:42] <krababbel> user14: then just use /home as mount point for a partition
[15:43] <flametai1> Hey everyone for some reason when I install Ubuntu my wireless card doesn't work, I have a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222 and help?
[15:43] <usr13> reduz2: Can you ping 200.42.4.203  and is it a working nameserver?
[15:43] <amr_> please help me to install gnome 3.4 over ubuntu 12 ,details >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12214542#post12214542
[15:43] <deadmund> bnwkeys: Again, i will re-iterate.  If you can get the machine online this whole thing is much easier.
[15:43] <xangua> amr_: ubuntu 12.04 already has gnome 3.4
[15:43] <krababbel> user14: then the directory /home would be on its own partition
[15:44] <amr_> xangua: then how to activate it?
[15:44] <user14> krababbel, OK, so I need to make 3 partitions, root, swap and /home. And will 18 Gb be enough for root partition?
[15:44] <flametai1> I take it no one knows?
[15:44] <bnwkeys> deadmund; lol, can't figure out how to pm, fail
[15:44] <amr_> xangua: I can see unity but not gnome 3.4
[15:44] <usr13> reduz2: Or is port 53 answering / available to you? nmap -p 53 200.42.4.203
[15:44] <reduz2> usr13: yeah it's the same as the windows computers
[15:44] <bazhang> flametai1, patience
[15:45] <krababbel> user14: 18gb is plenty, I use 8 usually, 18, that would be a lot of programs
[15:45] <flametai1> bazhang: I have none. lol
[15:45] <bazhang> flametai1, it takes more than a single minute to reply
[15:45] <auronandace> amr_: install gnome-shell
[15:45] <usr13> reduz2: host av.com   #Does it answer with IP addresses?
[15:45] <amr_> auronandace: from the software center ,I did this but no luck
[15:45] <user14> krababbel, great, now I can check BIOS settings and install Ubuntu. Thanks!
[15:45] <acioname> i have a problem with nvidia card driver i get this error when i was trying to install a program with apt-get command via terminal http://pastebin.com/t8VFvZha
[15:46] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs   flametai1 the atheros is listed there
[15:46] <krababbel> user14: np, just use a bit more swap than you have ram for hibernation if you need
[15:46] <auronandace> amr_: then logout and select it
[15:46] <amr_> auronandace: I did but no luck ,please check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12214542#post12214542
[15:47] <citymaj> cant access root FOLDER
[15:47] <user14> krababbel, OK, thanks =)
[15:47] <flametai1> bazhang: That's about a different wireless adapter, plus my laptop has no ethernet port.
[15:47] <usr13> reduz2: route -n  #Do you see the proper gateway IP?  (The IP of your gateway router...?)
[15:47] <equex> deadmund: thanks :) i was afk
[15:48] <deadmund> equex: sure
[15:48] <BluesKaj> reduz2, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head writes to /etc/resolv.conf , so you should have your nameserversw listed in " head "
[15:48] <opieng> tried sudo, but still no success installing PyQt tried that... here is what I get... pastebin.com/Y634n3Wh
[15:49] <yashwant> is any one know how to  convert 777 root permission to default permission
[15:49] <usr13> reduz2: http://blog.403labs.com/post/22325731425/vpn-dns-resolving-woes-in-ubuntu-12-04  #....reading...
[15:49] <yashwant> my sudo is not working due to 777
[15:49] <flametai1> bazhang: Know any tricks to installing packages without ethernet?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> reduz2, and ignore the warning in the head file
[15:49] <insomniaSalt> Hi #ubuntu, can I safely use "dd" to create bootable pendrives instead of usb-creator/unetbootin?
[15:50] <equex> deadmund: actually it wasnt expo, i meant the one where you get the workspaces side by side in the middle of the screen, not tiled (like expo)
[15:50] <auronandace> insomniaSalt: yes
[15:50] <bazhang> insomniaSalt, for 12.04?
[15:50] <insomniaSalt> auronandace: thanks.
[15:50] <bazhang> flametai1, still checking forums
[15:50] <insomniaSalt> bazhang: yes. and for ~100 pendrives (install party preparation)
[15:50] <bazhang> insomniaSalt, then yes
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> is there a way to do a recursive scp of a folder?\
[15:50] <auronandace> insomniaSalt: it works for 11.10 onwards
[15:51] <deadmund> equex: I'm not sure then
[15:52] <insomniaSalt> TheLordOfTime:  man scp | grep -i recursive
[15:52] <usr13> reduz2: Also see:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/142327/can-not-access-internet-dns-names-do-not-resolve-after-update-today
[15:53] <insomniaSalt> auronandace, bazhang: thanks again, bye.
[15:53] <usr13> yashwant: What?  due to 777?
[15:54] <Wesley0> how is everyone today?
[15:54] <yashwant> i have changed my ubuntu root permission now my sudo is not working how to change as like previous.
[15:54] <ThinkT510> Wesley0: this is a support channel
[15:55] <Wesley0> ThinkT510: I am aware, I was just being polite.
[15:55] <W4sp> yashwant: boot into prompt and chmod 4744 /usr/bin/sudo
[15:56] <newbie|2> How do I extract a file that ends with *.7z ?
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> ThinT510: ive been able to get rid of the square mouse with 'nomodeset' unfortunatly compiz disables, no wobbly windows, icon launcher size 2d etc..
[15:56] <xangua> newbie|2: install p7zip
[15:57] <xangua> !info p7zip | newbie|2
[15:57] <newbie|2> xangua: thx
[15:57] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i forget which driver were you using? radeon (the open source one) or fglrx (closed)?
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: how to check again
[15:58] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: lsmod
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:radeon
[15:59] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: thats why then, the open source driver needs kernel mode setting for 3d
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: what excaclty should i do
[16:00] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: you could use fglrx if you don't mind using closed source drivers
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i can try
[16:01] <lickalott> citymaj check pm
[16:01] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: you only get this problem on debian based distros?
[16:02] <Georwl> middle mouse is not working anymore. I really don't know what I did but it doesn't seem to work. maybe it is update related. xev doesn't show me the middle mouse click either. anyone know a solution?
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i had this mouse corruption indeed on ubuntu only all kinds of versions 32 or 64bit
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:installing fxglr, will it auto remove the radeon driver?
[16:03] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: did you try non-pae 32bit?
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:no what does this version do?
[16:04] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i remember you showing my a forum post that suggested it, pae is for addressing more than 4gb on 32bit
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: lemme reboot real quick cross my fingers, testing fxglr
[16:05] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: wait
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:05] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: didn't you say it disappears on reboot anyway? you only get the problem on cold boot
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: yes mate every morning cold boot for sure, also few hours wait the screen corrupt, but after normal reboot it vanish
[16:06] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: so you'd need to cold boot to see if it works
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:yes our few hours wait
[16:07] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: it happens again after a few hours?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:yes
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:lemme show you screenshot
[16:08] <Georwl> anyone here whose middle mouse click isnt working anymore on 12.04?
[16:08] <j4rg0n> Any one know how i would go about running my webcam from ubuntu 12.04 its  a built in cam
[16:08] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: odd, i thought it was just a problem when booted
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:http://i50.tinypic.com/5chu6b.jpg
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: in reality its not as much corruption, only mouse and text on folders
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i also found a very similar bug with my addy at bottom https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[16:12] <fXsTar> Is there any way to increase the font size of bookmarks toolbar in chromium ?
[16:13] <j4rg0n> Any one know how i would go about running my webcam from ubuntu 12.04 its  a built in cam
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> fXsTar: you could ask in #chromium
[16:13] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: did you write that? if not i think the nick in brackets is the guy that wrote that in your behalf
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> !info cheese | j4rg0n
[16:14] <j4rg0n> thanks
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:its not my bug, i just added 2 replys 153 154
[16:14] <Georwl> middle mouse is not working anymore. xev doesn't show me the middle mouse click either. anyone know a solution?
[16:14] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: oh right
[16:15] <hwilde> help my youtube videos just started stuttering and skipping around wtf is happening!
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> hwilde: please keep polite
[16:16] <Queops> flash happened, sadly.
[16:16] <Halfalife> Update Flash?
[16:16] <Halfalife> Or use HTML5?
[16:16] <Queops> HTML5 is still not a real solution
[16:16] <hwilde> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/184732
[16:16] <Halfalife> It works for some videos on Youtube, though.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> Queops:i agree
[16:16] <deadmund> It is a good solution.  Not enough sites use it.
[16:16] <TheLordOfTime> hwilde:  that's been fixed, is this still a bug?
[16:17] <hwilde> I have Ubuntu 11.04 and it just started happening this week
[16:17] <Georwl> please if there is someone experiencing the same "middle click" issue say so. google isn't helping
[16:17] <Queops> deadmund: sadly.
[16:17] <Queops> I believe it was because of ads
[16:17] <velho> HOW can one increase the text sixe, in XChat?
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:lemme reboot mate i come back quick, if not..the driver crashed lol
[16:18] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: ok
[16:18] <j4rg0n> Queops: I agree as well although HTML5 is awesome still can't fix flash lol
[16:18] <hwilde> velho, settings, preference, font size
[16:18] <lickalott> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=983
[16:18] <TheLordOfTime> hwilde:  you may consider filing a new bug on that, saying it still happens?:
[16:18] <hwilde> ugh what is the solution!
[16:18] <lickalott> sry hwilde...didn't mean to step on your toes
[16:19] <acioname> j4rg0n:try to see if video stutters when you recording with cheese another great option is guvcview
[16:20] <velho> hwilde, ThANKS :)
[16:21] <veric> Here is information for flash issues with older cpu https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3161034
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:screen is laggy now, no compiz anymore no wobbly windows
[16:21] <Halfalife> Try running compiz --replace?
[16:21] <wmarone_> does anyone else have a problem with the launcher where it never reappears if you turn on auto-hide?
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> wmarone_:  no.  what ubuntu are you on?>
[16:21] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: i've never used fglrx, i've heard it is rather buggy or low-quality
[16:21] <j4rg0n> acioname: I will see when i finish installing it thanks
[16:21] <wmarone_> 12.04.1
[16:22] <Queops> velho: you might want to know about http://www.hexchat.org/
[16:22] <Queops> I certainly did
[16:22] <bobweaver> wmarone_,  you have set the sensitivity in gnome-control-settings ?
[16:22] <wmarone_> it's running Unity, not gnome
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> wmarone_:  the sensitivity is in the settings menu area that is in gnome-control-settings
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> Halfalife: same thing after replace
[16:22] <bobweaver> lol open gnome-control-settings and go to apperences then click the unity bar
[16:22] <yeats> wmarone_: see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145530/launcher-auto-hides-but-does-not-come-back
[16:22] <j4rg0n> I have satalite internet so its a bit slow....lol
[16:23] <wmarone_> now then
[16:23] <wmarone_> I have done both of those
[16:23] <veric> wmarone i did the other day i rebooted and it has not happned since
[16:23] <wmarone_> including adding the compiz tool and altering the reveal pressure
[16:23] <wmarone_> I do not even get the shadow on the left edge
[16:23] <velho> Queops, what's the differente from Xchat? besides being windows also?
[16:23] <hwilde> could we have some option to try upgrades, and if they don't work then revert them?  this used to work fine and now it's broken I would much rather have old working stable packages than broken updates
[16:23] <j4rg0n> Compiz is pretty but I kinda hate it lol
[16:23] <Halfalife> I like it.
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok so howto go back to radeon now
[16:23] <Halfalife> Desktop cube + The Thinkpad Forward/back buttons makes workspaces so convenient.
[16:24] <velho> j4rg0n, for me is more usefull then pretty
[16:24] <yeats> hwilde: I use a virtual machine
[16:24] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: disable fglrx and reboot
[16:24] <Georwl> seriously...no one?
[16:24] <acioname> i have a problem with nvidia card driver i get this error when i was trying to install a program with apt-get command via terminal http://pastebin.com/t8VFvZha
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:ok brb
[16:24] <bobweaver> I like compiz windowing system I sure do Like to min and max my windows
[16:24] <Queops> velho: I believe they started making improvements
[16:24] <Queops> velho: and I already used xchat wdk on windows, which is now hexchat
[16:25] <usr13> j4rg0n:  You have satellite ISP, like hugesnet,  one that uses a dish that points to a celestial satellite?
[16:25] <vladimirsanchez> WIFI connection lost... not found in /proc/modules anymore after update to LInux Kernel on ppc ... RE: b43 device driver no longer works
[16:26] <citymaj88> whats a good alternative to nano editoR?
[16:26] <BluesKaj> citymaj88, vi
[16:26] <yeats> citymaj88: gedit
[16:26] <hwilde> citymaj88, whats wrong with nano
[16:26] <velho> Queops, I'm always inclined to multi-platform programs :)
[16:26] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  can you pastebin the output of     lsmod   ?
[16:26] <ThinkT510> citymaj88: vim or emacs
[16:26] <Queops> velho: ;)
[16:26] <vladimirsanchez> :) good to see you again...
[16:26] <usr13> *hughesnet*
[16:26] <citymaj88> i dont know how to navigate it, trying to change a text file in root folder
[16:26] <velho> Queops, and since it's based on xchatr...
[16:27] <j4rg0n> Is there a way without installing an older version of Ubuntu to get rid of the docking bar and give it back the appearance that it ubuntu had about idk like a year or so ago
[16:27] <vladimirsanchez> one sec... have to cp to usb
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> This is weird.
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> My windows 7 installation
[16:27] <usr13> j4rg0n: Yes
[16:27] <yeats> citymaj88: what are you not able to do?  (nano is the easiest CLI editor)
[16:27] <Maverick_> need openexr file
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> or rather, any another partition on my hard drive isn't being detected
[16:27] <Queops> velho: works well for me
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> and instead is showing unallocated space
[16:27] <j4rg0n> velho: I never really found alot of use for it other then increseing the amount of workspaces available
[16:27] <Foxhoundz> What could be causing this?
[16:27] <j4rg0n> velho: and the cube looks cool lol
[16:28] <Foxhoundz> I'm trying to install Windows 7 and Ubuntu ( actually, Xubuntu) side by side
[16:28] <citymaj88> im dumb to this shit bro, i dont know how to navigate it
[16:28] <ikonia> citymaj88: tone the language down please
[16:28] <lickalott> citymaj88, vi or vim can be navigated fairly easy with some practice.
[16:28] <yeats> Foxhoundz: does 'sudo fdisk -l' show the windows partition?
[16:28] <ikonia> citymaj88: no swearing on ganster chat
[16:28] <ikonia> just clear english
[16:28] <compdoc> owncloud is great
[16:28] <Foxhoundz> yeats, is that a question?
[16:28] <j4rg0n> yeah hughesnet exactly
[16:29] <citymaj88> ok thanks
[16:29] <j4rg0n> usr13: yes I have hughes net as a matter of fact lol
[16:29] <yeats> Foxhoundz: yes, as indicated by the "?" at the end of it
[16:29] <lickalott> citymaj are you using desktop or server?
[16:29] <citymaj88> please ikonia
[16:29] <velho> j4rg0n, i use the NEGATIVE a lot, to save my eyes
[16:29] <citymaj88> yea lickalott
[16:29] <ikonia> citymaj88: please what ?
[16:29] <citymaj88> nothing
[16:29] <ikonia> (sorry if I've missed a question)
[16:29] <ikonia> oh, ok.
[16:29] <Foxhoundz> yeats, it's showing two ntfs partitions on sda1 and sda2
[16:29] <Foxhoundz> so it does indeed detect it
[16:29] <lickalott> yeah?  server or yeah desktop?
[16:30] <Foxhoundz> but gparted shows 100% free unallocated space
[16:30] <velho> j4rg0n, if you don't use more then one workspace, don't use the cube just because it's cool
[16:30] <Foxhoundz> so does the Xubuntu installer
[16:30] <citymaj88> in on my desktop......dual boot ubuntu
[16:30] <yeats> Foxhoundz: can you paste a screenshot of what you're seeing on gparted?
[16:30] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/j9Kpki2t
[16:30] <Foxhoundz> okay
[16:30] <lickalott> not sure but you may be able to roll out texteditor
[16:31] <usr13> j4rg0n: Isnt' there anything else availabe?  Like a wisp?
[16:31] <citymaj88> ok cool
[16:31] <j4rg0n> usr13: Hughesnet is a joke they've been sued so many times for false advertiseing its not even funny and im stuck in contract till next november and no other internet company comes to my area
[16:31] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  lspci -nn | grep 14e4       what is the Numbers in Red ?
[16:31] <usr13> j4rg0n: Can I PM you?
[16:31] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, blasted, theadmin's not around now. Oh well. :)
[16:31] <smart1> hey there, short question. i use unity. and i put my titlebar of my tools under the menubar of unity. any idea how to fix this?
[16:32] <smart1> in windows you got an Alt+Key comination to move
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: ok radeon back to normal with compiz :p tnx
[16:33] <j4rg0n> velho: good point lol
[16:33] <ThinkT510> smart1: hold down alt and click and drag the window from anywhere
[16:33] <klio> exit
[16:33] <lickalott> j4rg0n that sucks bro.   I have to use hughesnet/wild blue when i go up to my in-laws house.  i feel your pain man.
[16:33] <smart1> @ThinkT10 thx
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> i gtg see you all for another session
[16:33] <Foxhoundz> yeats, well....I can't show you the screenshot at the moment
[16:33] <yeats> Foxhoundz: ok
[16:33] <Foxhoundz> network card is not being detected
[16:33] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: bye
[16:33] <smart1> i clicked everywhere but not into the window -.-
[16:33] <usr13> j4rg0n: (some wisps do not advertise, so...)
[16:33] <Foxhoundz> and I'm having trouble mounting my USB flash drive
[16:33] <j4rg0n> velho: oh i know just when i first started playing around with Ubuntu i found compiz and did the cube just for flashy showin off stuff lol
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: bye mate and tnx for support..Again
[16:34] <Foxhoundz> but those are problems for another day. I just wish I could figure out what's causing it to be not detected
[16:34] <j4rg0n> usr13: Nope i live to far out in the boonies im lucky i get anything lol
[16:34] <j4rg0n> usr13: sure go ahead
[16:35] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: Numbers in Red?
[16:35] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: 0001:10:12.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)
[16:35] <veric> Lickalott did you see what i sent you
[16:35] <yeats> Foxhoundz: seen this (and other forums threads)?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1510017
[16:35] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: you once helped me figure out the b43 driver issue.
[16:35] <studentz> is possible to direct the sound from  two audios sources to two different outputs? One audio to my speakers and the other to my earphones?
[16:35] <usr13> j4rg0n: I have...
[16:35] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  [14e4:4320] might have been in red if bash color is set in bashrc
[16:36] <gordonjcp> studentz: mostly not, no
[16:36] <gordonjcp> studentz: depends on your sound card
[16:36] <bear> hey room
[16:36] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  cool maybe I can help again
[16:36] <vladimirsanchez> I updated my kernel to 2.6.32-42-powerpc and system is now acting up weirdly..
[16:36] <studentz> gordonjcp even with tow sound cards?
[16:36] <gordonjcp> studentz: some have multiple outputs (like for 5.1)
[16:36] <gordonjcp> studentz: oh with two cards it's easy
[16:36] <gordonjcp> well, easyish, and don't expect two identical streams on two different cards to stay in sync for long ;-)
[16:37] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: Eh? Ubuntu has a PPC version?
[16:37] <vladimirsanchez> 10.10
[16:37] <studentz> gordonjcp any guide or place to look for?
[16:37] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  sudo modprobe b43      wireless if not pastebin    apt-cache policy b43-fwcutter
[16:37] <gordonjcp> studentz: stick two cards in, fiddle about in the sound menu
[16:37] <bear> i am looking for a fix with or if someone has seen this before "(gnome-control-center:14576): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_take_error: assertion `error != NULL' failed Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[16:37] <Psi-Jack> Oh, wow. old old stuff. ;)
[16:38] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: yep, powerbook 17 .. still going
[16:38] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: 9 years old
[16:38] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: However, techncially,10.10 is already, itself, beyond EOL for support.
[16:38] <anlarye> i've had an issue with 12.04 since it came out. even with a fresh install. i dont get the splash screen. my monitor gives me a message about the video mode cannot be displayed at bootup then goes into the login screen after that. where can i go to get the splash screen back
[16:38] <vladimirsanchez> :[ yes
[16:38] <bobweaver> there are plenty of Power PC Ubuntu's they all have them every version or it was so the last time I looked
[16:38] <j4rg0n> Usr13: thanks for that info I'm doin some research on em right now
[16:38] <Foxhoundz> I'll try PartedMagic
[16:38] <Foxhoundz> and see if that fixes it
[16:39] <Foxhoundz> in the meantime, I'll try Windows' native recovery to try to fix the MBR
[16:39] <DG_> omg help!
[16:39] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: Nope. 10.10, last PPC "port"
[16:39] <Foxhoundz> and see if that changes anything
[16:39] <DG_> helppppp!
[16:39] <Psi-Jack> DG_: Please, calm down, and ask what you need help with.
[16:39] <DG_> i cant boot windows 7!!
[16:39] <iceroot> DG_: ##windows
[16:39] <iceroot> !grub2 | DG_
[16:40] <iceroot> !details | DG_
[16:40] <bear> n e one??? (gnome-control-center:14576): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_take_error: assertion `error != NULL' failed
[16:40] <bear> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[16:40] <bobweaver> Look there is 12.04 ppc http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[16:40] <bobweaver> and all the rest also
[16:41] <DG_> ok i installed ubuntu 12.04 and i installed it on a seperate partition, yesterday i could boot into windows 7 but now it wont let me boot into it, it goes straight to the ubuntu boot menu
[16:41] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: Oh, so there is. Not on ports as from: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/
[16:41] <DG_> that was a legit copy of windows so i dont want to lose it
[16:41] <bobweaver> Psi-Jack,  everyone of these has ppc http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[16:42] <velho> j4rg0n, first time I REALLU used ubuntu, some years ago, I was showing all the effects
[16:42] <velho> and eye candy stuff
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: Looks like they just stopped referencing them as ports.
[16:42] <bobweaver> yup seems to look that way Psi-Jack
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: However...
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: The 12.04.1 is NOT for PowerPC CPU Architectures.
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: That's the difference.
[16:43] <velho> j4rg0n, but a computer is to work
[16:43] <Psi-Jack> Well, nevermind.
[16:43] <bear> has n e one ever seen this and possibly know a fix (gnome-control-center:14576): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_simple_async_result_take_error: assertion `error != NULL' failed
[16:43] <bear> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[16:43] <Psi-Jack> Lower down, it's there for PPC as well. ;)
[16:44] <bobweaver> Yeah I think that the server world would flip or atleast IBM if that was not there Psi-Jack
[16:44] <Psi-Jack> bobweaver: Heh
[16:44] <j4rg0n> velho: Yeah, thats the way I was very vain about it. Thought I was cooler using it so I wanted to show off all the eye candy stuff when people looked over my shoulder lol. Now I use it to learn and work.
[16:44] <opieng> when you install things using sudo, why do they not appear on the desktop?
[16:45] <fidel> opieng: why would an app/package installed auto-apear on your desktop?
[16:45] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: so... should I upgrade to 12.04 ? once Wifi issue is fixed ?
[16:45] <fidel> opieng: thats not the usual behaviour - installing means installing ..not creating aliases or similar to your desktop
[16:45] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/2Z3P8sTp
[16:46] <opieng> fidel, I am used to windows, thats all
[16:46] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter && sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:46] <opieng> just started with linux and ubuntu
[16:47] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  your mod(driver ) is not installed
[16:47] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I cannot apt-get install ... I have no WIFI
[16:47] <anlarye> i've had an issue with 12.04 since it came out. even with a fresh install. i dont get the splash screen. my monitor gives me a message about the video mode cannot be displayed at bootup then goes into the login screen after that. where can i go to get the splash screen back
[16:47] <fidel> opieng: creating desktop-shortcuts is - if done at all usualy a bonbon/add-on after finishing the real install. in linux its usualy on you to do so - especialy as some desktop-environment try to keep your desktop free/uncluttered
[16:47] <bobweaver> ok you have usb vladimirsanchez  or anyway to hook up teather ect ?
[16:48] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: looking for a ethernet cable..
[16:48] <vladimirsanchez> how about the usb?
[16:48] <anlarye> opieng: welcome to linux and ubuntu. where you get to tell your computer what you want it to do ... instead of it telling you what to do
[16:48] <fidel> opieng: give those launchers a chance - there are several ways/apps to start apps by name just bypressing a shortcut and entering a few letters.
[16:49] <bobweaver> sweet vladimirsanchez  cat5 (ethernet) would be better but if you can not find we can fix with transferring driver and what not.
[16:49] <opieng> thats fair, by the way I tried to install PyQt using Sudo apt-get Install pyqt-dev-tools, but it wouldnt install I had to get it from the software centre, any reason for this?
[16:49] <fidel> my personal fav is 'kupfer' but most linux desktops offer 'alt+f2' as launcher by default
[16:49] <opieng> yep, I hope to completely switch to linux from windows ASAP
[16:50] <fidel> opieng: could you pastebin us the output of your apt-command? maybe we can explain if there was some error output
[16:50] <opieng> yep.. on its way..
[16:50] <opieng> pastebin.com/Y634n3Wh
[16:50] <bear> stumped with why I can't change my wallpaper, i know how to use dconf-editor to change it but it would be simpler if the gnome-control-center wouldn't crash everytime i try to change the wallpaper
[16:51] <bobweaver> openvoid,  the name of the package is python-qt4-dev
[16:51] <roger__> roger
[16:51] <bobweaver> I thought
[16:51] <bear> n e one?????
[16:51] <opieng> I did a aptitude search and thats what it came up with?
[16:52] <bobweaver> bear,  there is a bug for that on launchpad it also affects me.  bear  run        ubuntu-bug gnome-control-center
[16:52] <fidel> opieng: there was no error at all in your paste ;)
[16:52] <bobweaver> openvoid,  use apt-cache search <name of package >
[16:53] <bear> that is what I was trying to do to get it to run again thanks bobweaver
[16:53] <bear> i mean i can change it other ways just would be nice to do it in control-center
[16:53] <opieng> but when I tried to search for qt in my "search" section (sorry not sure what its called) and it could not find qt ??
[16:54] <fidel> opieng: so basically - your paste shows how it fetched the data of that specific package - unpacked it and did the core-setup
[16:54] <bobweaver> openvoid,  try    apt-cache search pyqt
[16:55] <ThinkT510> bobweaver: you keep tab completing the wrong nick
[16:55] <fidel> opieng: what do you mean by 'search function'?
[16:55] <anlarye> 12.04 doesn't display the splash screen on boot. monitor gives an error that it cannot display the current video mode. afterwards, i do get the login screen just fine. where can i go to fix the boot splash screen?
[16:55] <bobweaver> opps thanks ThinkT510
[16:55] <opieng> icon above my "Home Folder"
[16:56] <fidel> opieng: guess you mean the unity dash right?
[16:57] <opieng> fidel, yes the portal looking icon with a round white circle
[16:57] <bobweaver> anlarye,   try    sudo update-alternatives --config text.plymouth    then  sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth       see if it helps if not file a bug.    ubuntu-bug plymouth
[16:57] <bear> bobweaver thank you for helping me to submit it
[16:57] <anlarye> k will check those bobweaver
[16:57] <CasW> I don't suppose the HUD will still work if I remove appmenu-gtk3, appmenu-gtk and appmenu-qt (to disable global menu)?
[16:58] <bobweaver> np bear  wish It would work for mine also and stop crashing . Though I did get a new gnoe-control-panel this morning
[16:58] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[16:58] <bear> bobeweaver really????
[16:58] <bear> what is it?
[16:58] <fidel> opieng: tried starting it from cli? not using that package here - nor am i using unity - so i cant doublecheck if it act similar here.
[16:59] <Psi-Jack> Watching a full package-by-package reinstall is interesting. Seeing some error showing up that eventually go away after multitudes of packages get redownloaded, and reinstalled.
[16:59] <opieng> ok, not to worry, but sudo apt-get install .... is the right method to be using for the installation?
[16:59] <bobweaver> correct gnome-control-center keeps crashing over and over again I have 1:3.4.2-0  installed bear
[17:00] <fidel> opieng: yep: sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME
[17:00] <Foxhoundz> It worked!
[17:00] <Foxhoundz> PartedMagic seems to have fixed the issue
[17:00] <fidel> opieng: while: apt-cache search SEARCHSTRING  << will search the package informations for your SEARCHSTRING
[17:01] <opieng> what if I don'y know what the package name is? So far I have been using aptitude search PyQt
[17:01] <fidel> opieng: apt is acutaly pretty lovely if you get used to the basic commands;)
[17:01] <rochak> could anyone tell me who am I considered when browsing my localhost? am I world or username
[17:01] <Foxhoundz> Now the next step is finding drivers for my radeon card
[17:02] <bear> i am running 3.4.2
[17:02] <bobweaver> opieng,  use a *description*    apt-cache search qt creator    like that the package is not called that but it will search the apt cache to find it
[17:02] <opieng> ok thanks
[17:02] <bobweaver> bear,  yeah same thing and should be on +1 I would take it
[17:02] <opieng> slowly getting used to this...
[17:03] <opieng> I am from the Engineering community... TO ALL linux/ubuntu developers, please develop scientific and engineering software which is support by Linux in the future
[17:03] <xubuntu_> I need help in order to install ubuntu, partition problems
[17:03] <opieng> I want to stop using Windows
[17:03] <bear> came up with a samba4 error?
[17:03] <bobweaver> opieng,  there are many many books tutorials and all sorts of cool stuff out there. Once you "get it " you get it and will be able to do things that you would have never of imagined possible
[17:03] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: first one : b43-fwcutter installed...
[17:03] <fidel> opieng: you can for sure us some kind of software-center or apt-gui as well - but it will help you to udnerstand the basics of apt and cli-usage
[17:04] <truexfan81> anyone know where quvi stores its scripts on 12.04? the guy on #mplayer2 says it should be in /usr/share/quvi/lua/website/  but there is no quvi folder there, and i do have it installed from the repos
[17:04] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: but not the last one... b43-fwcutter-installter
[17:04] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  look again
[17:04] <opieng> Yes I want to get used to commands and... Bash is it called?
[17:04] <bobweaver> firmware-b43-installer      << that is what you want
[17:05] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  ^^
[17:05] <bobweaver> opieng,  read gregs manual
[17:05] <opieng> gregs?
[17:05] <bobweaver> opieng,  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[17:05] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: couldnt find package
[17:06] <vladimirsanchez> firmware-b43-installer.
[17:06] <opieng> ok thanks.
[17:06] <vladimirsanchez> :[
[17:06] <bear> just removed samba4
[17:06] <xubuntu_> anyone could help me with partition on dual boot on mini mac?
[17:06] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: already apt-get update ...
[17:06] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[17:07] <vladimirsanchez> :[ doesnt work
[17:07] <ranveer5289> truexfan81: for me it's in /usr/share/libquvi-scripts/lua/website
[17:08] <bobweaver> Oo      vladimirsanchez   pastebin  apt-cache search firmware b43       and also  what software sources are you using . in ubuntu software center go to edit __> software sources and see i9f one is not enabled maybe even 2 or 3 are not
[17:09] <xubuntu_> anyone could help me partition on dual boot on mini mac?
[17:09] <lickalott> not I
[17:10] <zeppo> i have an ubuntu server thats crashed
[17:10] <Psi-Jack> Alrighty! Time for the proof of concept, wether reinstalling ALL packages fixes the problem I had. ;)
[17:10] <zeppo> and i've booted it up in rescue mode. which logs should I be looking at?
[17:10] <lickalott> zeppo that was a widly vauge problem
[17:10] <zeppo> haha i know sorry
[17:11] <bobweaver> Psi-Jack,  you can also reconfigure packages that are installed dpkg-reconfigure <package name >
[17:11] <lickalott> when does it crash?  how often, what version are you running?
[17:11] <belgianguy> how do I switch my gfx accel to VESA?
[17:11] <hfic> !details | zeppo
[17:11] <zeppo> its a cloud server that wont boot up. i managed to get in in rescue mode so i can ssh in to it
[17:11] <belgianguy> as I want to test if my ATI driver is making Chrome act all weird
[17:11] <zeppo> and I'm not sure what exactly caused it to crash
[17:11] <zeppo> but it will only start in rescue mode
[17:11] <ikonia> zeppo: a.) what type of virtualzation is it running on b.) what version of ubuntu is it c.) what do you define as "crash"
[17:12] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: all but the opera Browser sources are enabled...
[17:12] <lickalott> /var/log may have some stuff.  /var/crash may have some stuff
[17:12] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: Am I missing one?
[17:12] <Psi-Jack> Bobweaver: I know. But I had so many random things just crashing for no reason. Chrome, Skype, automount.
[17:12] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  screen sot ?
[17:12] <Psi-Jack> Chrome tabs specifically
[17:12] <vladimirsanchez> O_o ... brb
[17:12] <zeppo> ubuntu 11.10 on rackspace
[17:13] <ikonia> zeppo: what sort of virtualization
[17:13] <zeppo> just realised that it was down, can only bring it up in rescue mode. so I'm not sure what caused it
[17:13] <ikonia> zeppo: what happens when you try to boot it normally
[17:13] <zeppo> nothing
[17:13] <Psi-Jack> Zeppo. Call rackspace
[17:13] <ikonia> zeppo: what do you mean "nothing" - please explain the problem, or it's just wasting time
[17:13] <bobweaver> whats dmesg have to say ? zeppo
[17:14] <ikonia> dmesg isn't going to be much good as he's booted into rescue mode
[17:14] <zeppo> i did. they told me to boot it in rescue mode
[17:14] <lickalott> if you boot the server can you get a ping through?  maybe ssh in to see if you can review logs?
[17:14] <ikonia> zeppo: please tell me what happens when you try to boot it normally
[17:15] <Psi-Jack> zeppo: You do not control much of the bootup process in a Rackspace Cloud Server. Heck, you don't even have access to choose what kernel boots, THEY do. You're best best is to call Rackspace support, trust me.
[17:15] <zeppo> alright i'll call them up again
[17:15] <Jagst3r15> is it reccommended to upgrade to 12.04.1 from 12.04?
[17:15] <zeppo> thanks guys
[17:15] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: yes
[17:15] <Jagst3r15> how come i dont get an upgrade message
[17:15] <ikonia> because it's not an upgrade, just some package updates
[17:16] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[17:16] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: http://imgur.com/U7H1k
[17:16] <Psi-Jack> Well, so far... Not too shabby. But my Skype is all Qt-ified in looks now. :/
[17:16] <Jagst3r15> ikonia will system detailssay 12.04.1 or is there no way to tell
[17:17] <xangua> Jagst3r15: if you install security updates you already  have it
[17:17] <ikonia> lsb-release will show the version
[17:17] <dr_willis> !versiin
[17:17] <dr_willis> oops.  :-(
[17:17] <bear> man this stinks
[17:18] <Jagst3r15> lsb release dont work :C
[17:18] <ikonia> lsb-release does work
[17:18] <Jagst3r15> says package not found
[17:18] <Jagst3r15> or command not found
[17:18] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: man lsb-release
[17:18] <dr_willis> spelling counts....
[17:18] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: note the "lsb-release" not "lsb release"
[17:18] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  I am not sure why you can not see that. try to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10796508
[17:19] <bobweaver> and it is lsb_release
[17:19] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: could it be opendns ?
[17:19] <ikonia> ahh _ not -
[17:19] <ikonia> thank you
[17:19] <dr_willis> !version
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> lsb_release
[17:19] <bobweaver> or just cat the file it lives under etc
[17:19] <Jagst3r15> ty guys
[17:20] <rictoo> hey guys, i dont get unity.
[17:20] <bobweaver> wonder if update-manager config file is set to something that it should not be ?
[17:21] <rictoo> am i supposed to constantly alt+tab between apps?
[17:21] <fidel> rictoo: well you could use somekind of 'dock' or similar
[17:21] <bobweaver> rictoo,  press suoer+w
[17:21] <fidel> there are tons of different ways how to handle window-management
[17:21] <bobweaver> super *
[17:21] <rictoo> cinnamon was beautiful, but i couldn't get compiz working with it (i love changing window opacities - makes things productive)
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: If you have the model number
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> 14e4:4301
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> 14e4:4306
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> 14e4:4320
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> 14e4:4324
[17:21] <vladimirsanchez> Then you are going to need the b43-fwcutter with the firmware-b43legacy-installer
[17:21] <FloodBot1> vladimirsanchez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <truexfan81> ranveer5289: thanks
[17:22] <rictoo> bobweaver, that's great, but it's still quicker to use a mouse
[17:22] <rictoo> fidel, which one do you recommend? i've seen so many. is there some go-to dock?
[17:22] <cefege123> how can I install 'Additional drivers' program? ( I am running ubuntu server with minimal wm)
[17:22] <bobweaver> rictoo,  hold down super
[17:22] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I think it should be firmware-b43legacy-installer correct?
[17:22] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  read
[17:22] <bobweaver> I wrote that
[17:23] <fidel> rictoo: nah ...thats pretty user-specific. i loved tint & awn .. but both are pretty special somehow ;)
[17:23] <centrelink> cefege123: its called jockey
[17:24] <bobweaver> rictoo,  you can see that you can use things like holding down super and pressing the number that corresponds to the doc app (I use that all day long )
[17:24] <cefege123> centrelink : I tried, not found...
[17:24] <Psi-Jack> Well, this seems like a total success. ;)
[17:24]  * Psi-Jack crosses fingersd.
[17:25] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: allright ... I'll follow it up...
[17:26] <sternfan2012> Anyone know how to get to #edubuntu
[17:26] <sternfan2012> ?
[17:26] <Psi-Jack> Bleh, Still fullscreening flash stuff in Chrome gets up on HALF my screen, (as if the center was both monitors)
[17:26] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I'll let you know how/if it worked
[17:26] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  there is also http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[17:26] <fidel> sternfan2012: enter: /j #CHANNELNAME
[17:26] <lickalott> sternfan2012 type /j #edubuntu
[17:26] <lickalott> i'm sitting in there right now.
[17:27] <bobweaver> look at the part 4320 that is the important part vladimirsanchez  that is why you need the name and the number aka -nn  on lspci
[17:27] <kantlivelong> anyone here get alot of crashing on 12.04?
[17:27] <tiredbones> I currently have ubunto 9.10 and I download 12.04.  After about 2 mins.  of trying to install 12.01 I get the error, "EDD error 1000 ...". My web search said to add "ebb=off" to grub. How to do thid??
[17:27] <kantlivelong> constant crash reports..
[17:27] <lickalott> we automatically assumed he was using mirc...lol
[17:27] <tiredbones> I currently have ubunto 9.10 and I download 12.04.  After about 2 mins.  of trying to install 12.01 I get the error, "EDD error 1000 ...". My web search said to add "ebb=off" to grub. How to do this??
[17:27] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I thought I had the 4306 per the file i sent you..
[17:28] <cefege123> how can I install 'Additional drivers' program? ( I am running ubuntu server with minimal wm)
[17:28] <kantlivelong> cefege123: why not just install the driver from cli?
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: nvr mind..
[17:28] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  the part that is in [14e4:<Most important part >]
[17:28] <yeats> !info jockey-text | cefege123
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I saw it..
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> :d
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> :d
[17:28] <FloodBot1> vladimirsanchez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <yeats> oops
[17:28] <vladimirsanchez> :D
[17:28] <bobweaver> :)
[17:29] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: allright... let me tinker with it...
[17:29] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: thx a lot..
[17:29] <cefege123> kantlivelong : how can I do that?
[17:29] <fidel> cefege123: jockey or maybe jockey-gtk?
[17:29] <yeats> cefege123: try 'sudo apt-get install jockey-common'
[17:29] <kantlivelong> cefege123: what driver do you need?
[17:29] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: btw, should I upgrade to 12.04 ppc ?
[17:29] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: I'd say so.
[17:29] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: Your upgrade path isn't direct though.
[17:30] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: It seems I'd have to continue tinkering to keep it going...
[17:30] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez,  np anytime I want to let you know that I am doing this so that you can learn more about your mod/driver I would hold your hand and walk you though but if you learn now you will always know :)
[17:30] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: You will have to install 11.04, 11.10, then 12.04
[17:30] <tesuji> Quick Question: I logged in with gnome classic in 12.04 and i love the activities but i also want a window bar. how can i manage to do that? the forum post i got didnt help (which suggested installing gnome-panel which was already there)
[17:30] <cefege123> I have an ati 9600, I was hopping the program would take care of that
[17:30] <tesuji> vladimirsanchez, I unfortunatedly had to do that too, but it worked well
[17:31] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: thx, it's exactly what I wanted... It's good to have a helping hand... then fly solo... ;)
[17:31] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: tesuji : thx for the recommendations...
[17:31]  * bobweaver high fives  vladimirsanchez  
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, What does window bar mean to you?
[17:31] <vladimirsanchez> I really want to keep my PPC PB17
[17:31] <vladimirsanchez> :D
[17:31] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, I mean the bar that lists all the windows
[17:31] <AnDsO> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183966/   help :)
[17:31] <Psi-Jack> vladimirsanchez: Yet, it's already a paperweight.
[17:31] <j4rg0n> tesuji: do you mean the dock?
[17:32] <xangua> tesuji: tried the gnome plugin web¿ may find something there
[17:32] <vladimirsanchez> :[ i know... it's on life support ... both on Apple and Ubuntu..
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, Ah, I use cairo-dock as a extra bar myself
[17:32] <bobweaver> !details | AnDsO,
[17:32] <AnDsO> coming to it
[17:33] <bobweaver> thanks AnDsO
[17:33] <AnDsO> net-snmp installtion
[17:33] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, j4rg0n: i dont mean the apple like cairo dock. I upgraded from 11.04 with the classic gnome and there was the application bar on top and the window bar at the bottom
[17:33] <j4rg0n> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 in vmware player and tryin to get my webcam work useing cheese but get a device not found error anyone else use vmware player know how to get it to find webcam
[17:33] <j4rg0n> actually never mind i just answered my own question
[17:34] <tiredbones> Psi-Jack, your advice to vladimirsanchez, sound like I should do the same. I have 9,10 and I want to install 12.04. would I also need to install 11.04, 11.10 and then 12.04?
[17:34] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, j4rg0n: like this http://www.liberiangeek.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/gnome_ubuntu_panel_thumb.png
[17:34] <Psi-Jack> tiredbones: 9.10? You can go to 10.04 and then LTS to LTS upgrade to 12.04
[17:34] <Lee_Sharp> #ubuntu-x
[17:34] <Lee_Sharp> join #ubuntu-x
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, I have not looked at the gnome2 like desktop for awhile so but I think it has a right click to add to the bars like the old gnome2, I believe there is another key like alt for moving them
[17:36] <tiredbones> Psi-Jack, thanks for the advice/
[17:36] <cefege123> Installed ATI drivers from console and I get this error when I type fglrxinfo -> http://pastebin.com/xb9WZbhB
[17:36] <sternfan2012> Anyone use Edubutu out there?  I have a few Qs
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, Or the alt with a right click to see the apps to add to the bar.
[17:37] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, yeah I have tried that, but it doesnt work, thanks for your ideas. I never thought an old school linux fan like me would ask for cosmetic things ;) but it just feels like its made for tablets
[17:37] <yeats> cefege123: seen this?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81344/how-to-fix-error-with-ati-driver-error-of-failed-request
[17:37] <Psi-Jack> tiredbones: yeah, 10.04 desktop still has a till 13.04's release for support. ;)
[17:37] <smart1> hey there, i want to create a vnc session and want to get acces to my actual screen
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, I use gnome 3 at this time myself, but there are about 50 different desktop possibilities
[17:38] <smart1> but just find tutorials for ssh x11 connections
[17:38] <bobweaver> wilee-nilee,  such a good point IceWM all the way j/k
[17:38] <AnDsO> anyone i was tryin to compile net-snmp 5.71 something is missing and m getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1183966/  using ubuntu server  runnin ubuntu server 12.04
[17:38] <macsim> hi, do you know if I can rotate only one of my dualscreen with nvidia card ?
[17:38] <sternfan2012> smart1 - try XVNC
[17:39] <tesuji> wilee-nilee, the new gnome makes the titlebar of a window part of the "activities bar" (sorry I dont know its real name) so I guess it wouldnt make sense to move it around a lot or clutter it with windows. I am just wondering if i can get a list of opened windows constantly on the screen without going to the activites overview
[17:40] <cefege123> yeats:  I have no xorg.conf
[17:40] <fidel> tesuji: use some kind of dock
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> tesuji, Gnome 3 has an exstension that sits ion the bar, has to be clicked to show the desktops with windows but not what is actually open.
[17:41] <tesuji> fidel, yeah i will probably get cairo
[17:41] <tesuji> thanks guys
[17:41] <fidel> tesuji: if you are into gnome 3 - there is a lovely extension called: Panel Docklet
[17:42] <tesuji> fidel, I will check it out! it has been 2 years since i upgraded this machine
[17:42] <fidel> butthere are tons of others as cairo, tint2, docky, awn etc ..have fun testing them
[17:42] <yeats> cefege123: did you see the first answer to the question (about fgrlx being blacklisted)?  the solution doesn't require you to have an xorg.conf
[17:42] <tesuji> fidel, I only used work related distros
[17:44] <cefege123> yeats:  yes, nothing is blacklisted
[17:45] <cefege123> yeats:  I used this tutorial to help me out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:46] <bnwkeys> OK feeling really stupid, deadmund helped me get wifi working on my laptop, but apparently it didn't save the changes to my kernel. I have the firmware files I need to make it work, but could someone remind me to install these packages?
[17:46] <tesuji> bnwkeys, its usually a modprobe
[17:46] <tesuji> bnwkeys, best save it in a startup script
[17:48] <bnwkeys> So as I build this system, I need to add package installs to startup scripts?
[17:48] <bnwkeys> <- total noob :/
[17:48] <tesuji> fidel, Thank you! docky is almost what I needed. and its apparently "no fuss" according to the readme ;)
[17:49] <tesuji> bnwkeys, pleas prefix your messages with names you want to talk to it was just luck i saw yours ^^
[17:49] <natsirt> Is Linux or Windows better?
[17:50] <gregoryfenton> Please don't feed the troll ^^
[17:50] <fidel> natsirt: there is no better/best in that
[17:50] <AnDsO> work=linux toy=windows
[17:50] <hfic> natsirt, that's a very open ended question .. please don't troll
[17:50] <natsirt> hfic: How am I trolling?
[17:50] <fidel> and yeah - see thetroll thing & even ask yourself if you would ask apple in the applestore if they are better then microsoft or not
[17:50] <tesuji> bnwkeys, how do you get it to work by hand?
[17:50] <fidel> question just doesnt make sense ;)
[17:51] <tesuji> natsirt, the same way somebody is trolling who says who is better mozart or hayden
[17:51] <tesuji> natsirt, many different oppinions, preferences and whatnot
[17:51] <natsirt> fidel: You will never find me in an Apple store
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> chopin
[17:51] <bnwkeys> Tesuji, plz excuse my slow typing. Having to use my phone until I can get wifi working on this laptop
[17:51] <gregoryfenton> natsirt, the same way you posted a forkbomb yesterday
[17:51] <tesuji> bnwkeys, no problem i will stay on for you ;)
[17:52] <natsirt> I think Linux is better, just no as user friendly :)
[17:52] <tesuji> bnwkeys, usually there is a command 'modprobe kernelmodule'
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> natsirt, you might want #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:52] <natsirt> gregoryfenton: Plase quit living in the past. I am a new man now.
[17:52] <cefege123> How can I install ati drivers from TERMINAL?
[17:52] <usr13> natsirt: It is obvious.  (Assuming that was a legit question....)  If you ask here, folks will say Linux.  If you ask in #windows, folks will say Windows. (It's not rocket science.)
[17:52] <Guest33135> hello?
[17:52] <Guest33135> i have a question
[17:53] <sternfan2012> what's the channel for ubuntu server?
[17:53] <tesuji> bnwkeys, if you have that command look at /etc/initrc or something similar (cant remember) so it gets started at startup
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> Guest33135, then ask it. ;)
[17:53] <silver86> yes james ?
[17:53] <Guest33135> why are my youtube videos or any other music i try playing are fastforward?
[17:53] <Psi-Jack> Bah, son of a....
[17:53] <natsirt> usr13: I am shocked there is a #windows channel on freenode. I thought you were trollin me at 1st
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> sternfan2012, #ubuntu-server
[17:53] <tesuji> bnwkeys, if you cannot remember the command its very hard to help you sorry, maybe somebody else knows your wifi hardware, but i cannot help
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Chrome tabs are STILL crashing randomly. :(
[17:54] <bnwkeys> Tesuji, I have wl-apsta-3.130.20.0.o and broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5, I need to write them to the kernel
[17:54] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, not here
[17:54] <sternfan2012> thanks wilee
[17:54] <usr13> natsirt: Can I PM you?
[17:54] <Calinou> Psi-Jack, get chromium
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Calinou: No.
[17:54] <fidel> sternfan2012: you might ask inhere if you cant find a better matching channel
[17:54] <Calinou> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n
[17:54] <Calinou> it's the same Fing thing
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: Mine started doing it at home.
[17:54] <Calinou> better privacy and open source
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Calinou: No, it's not.
[17:54] <Calinou> or, quit trolling
[17:54] <Calinou> it is.
[17:54] <Calinou> lrn2installflash if you're that inclined about that
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Calinou: Go look up the meaning of trolling.
[17:54] <Calinou> no u
[17:54] <FloodBot1> Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <hfic> !ot
[17:55] <Psi-Jack> Anyway.
[17:55] <silver86> james have you tried updating adobe flash ?
[17:55] <silver86> or any flash player your using
[17:55] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: Mine just started doing so, randomly out of the blue one day, then other things started to crash, like skype, caffeine, even automount.
[17:55] <tesuji> bnwkeys, if you have the module try 'man modprobe' to see your options. but i think it should just be 'modprobe module'
[17:55] <kubanc> how do i change port for remote deskrop connection in ubuntu 12.04 i've tried in gconf-editor with alternative port string but no results
[17:55] <Guest33135> hm i will try
[17:55] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, that sounds like an addon problem, I had those before
[17:56] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, on every os too
[17:56] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: I thought so too,. but it's not /just/ chrome. And it's happening on a clean install of chrome.
[17:56] <natsirt> I wasn't trying to troll, maybe I should have asked in a different way or something, sorry.
[17:56] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: And like I said, skype is doing it now, automount, caffeine too.
[17:56] <sternfan2012> Fidel - I have some Edubuntu/LTSP Qs
[17:56] <linuxdude> hello
[17:56] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, that could be dbus or something with your network
[17:57] <sternfan2012> any edubuntu admins out there?
[17:57] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, either way thats a whole lot of hurt
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: Yes, indeed, it is.
[17:57] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, backup your data my friend, fast ^^
[17:57] <bnwkeys> Tesuji, excuse my denseness, how do I know the name of the "modules", oh or is it those files, and I just have to be in the same dir ...
[17:57] <bekks> sternfan2012: Just ask your questions :)
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: It's all backed up. :)
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> sternfan2012, admins don't really hang on the irc in the support channels
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> tesuji: ANd I know it's not hardware problems.
[17:58] <__diamondi_> what are some of the draw backs of using ACL for authorization?
[17:58] <bekks> __diamondi_: ACL cannot be used fpr authorization, they are for advanced permission control.
[17:59] <sternfan2012> Q - if I set up LTSP and need to log websites visited - will each individual thin client be in the log?  Or just the Edubuntu server itself since everything goes through it?
[17:59] <tesuji> bnwkeys, it should be something like 'modprobe bw54' that was something similar to my laptop. you probably have to be in the same directory where the module is located but I am really not sure. I am not the best person to answer your question. Wait for 10 minutes and ask again in allchat
[17:59] <sternfan2012> Does that make sense?
[17:59] <tesuji> Psi-Jack, try dmesg
[17:59] <__diamondi_> bekks:by authorization i mean file system accesses
[18:01] <kubanc> where do i change remote port in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:01] <michelfp_> I'm trying to compile Seeborg 0.51 but I get the error "make: g++ Command not found"
[18:01] <michelfp_> Do I need to install any package?
[18:02] <tesuji> michaelfp_, get gcc compilertools and the like
[18:02] <Dragonfly> Hi there everyone. I need help with editing DTDT on my Toshiba Satellite. can anybody help ?
[18:02] <tesuji> the f is dtdt
[18:02] <tesuji> sounds like a tv show
[18:03] <tesuji> sorry ignore me ^^
[18:03] <youngsam> Research address: 55 RUE LAMARCK 75018
[18:03] <tesuji> no doxing
[18:05] <paolina> #ubuntu-it
[18:06] <anlarye> michelfp_: you need to install the build-essenials (not sure of the exact name) package in order to use make and to build from source
[18:06] <bnwkeys> Tesuji OK thanks
[18:06] <bnwkeys> How about this question, how do I write object files onto the kernel
[18:06] <glenn> how to set the programs so that when i click on a pdf he automaticly acrobad reader start
[18:06] <paolina> ciao sono sul canale italiano
[18:08] <TimothyA> what's the best way to DD a RAID-0 (mdadm) drive?
[18:08] <zorbama> Hello, how do I find out the name of buttons on my tablet to use as reference for key mapping?
[18:10] <emph> I'm trying to watch a movie with the player installed by default in Ubuntu, but occasionally it freezes, how come?
[18:10] <glenn> how can i set it so when i click on a pdf file in ubuntu 12.04 that he start acrobad reader
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> glenn, right click the pdf then properties then open with
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> set the pdf reader as default
[18:12] <zorbama> \repeat
[18:12] <glenn> wilee-nilee,thnx i found it by my self
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> cool glenn
[18:12] <zorbama> how do I find out the name of buttons on my tablet to use as reference for key mapping?
[18:13] <emph> Can anybody help me? How come my movie freezes while I'm watching it? This didn't happen to me in Windows, so it's not my computer's fault
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> zorbama, keyboard app
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> emph, that is a bad cause and effect.
[18:13] <tesuji> emph: which player
[18:13] <aaas> emph just the movie or the computer?  have you tried different players?
[18:13] <theseb> why is the 64bit ubuntu iso called amd64? is AMD the only company that makes 64bit cpus?
[18:14] <zorbama> wilee-nilee: It's not a keyboard, but a Wacom tablet. I tried using the GUI to map buttons, but it doesn't work. I'm trying to configure it with xsetwacom or /etc/X11/x.conf.d
[18:14] <Guest13234> hi i removed deepin from my system and want to reboot to see changes plz tell me how i update grub for generate new grub .iam on ubuntu 12.04
[18:14] <emph> emp: thanks wilee, really helpful
[18:14] <tesuji> theseb: they defined the first 64 bit architecture
[18:14] <emph> tesuji: the one installed by default on ubuntu
[18:15] <emph> aaas: just the movie, I tried VLC
[18:15] <tesuji> emph: please install vlc and tell us what happens then
[18:15] <WHAT_LEFT> what would be the best way to copy a file as it's being written to?
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> emph, no nproblem but your question makes no sense it is lacking any real substance.
[18:15] <theseb> tesuji: thanks...i have a Intel Core 2 Quad CPU    Q9550.....is that 64bit?
[18:15] <tesuji> emph: if it still stalls post your dmesg output on pastebin
[18:15] <emph> tesuji: I'll try again with VLC
[18:15] <aaas> emph try playing from command line with mplayer/ffmpeg , maybe it will throw an error?
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[18:15] <WHAT_LEFT> theseb: yes
[18:15] <mityaz> : theseb yep
[18:16] <tesuji> theseb: yes thats 64 bit
[18:16] <emph> aaas: what exactly am I supposed to write in the terminal, before that? gksudo?
[18:16] <Guest13234> thats good 64 bit
[18:16] <theseb> Sorry one last question....does 64 bit ubuntu work well?  i've heard on IRC of people having issues w/ 64 bit java and flash iirc
[18:16] <tesuji> theseb: but 32 bit applications generally work better unless you need precision computing
[18:16] <Guddu> I have a file install.sh.....I also did a sudo chmod +x install.sh .... Now when i execute the file by just giving the name on the command prompt and pressing enter it says install.sh : command not found....What am i missing?
[18:17] <theseb> (Can I run 32bit apps on 64bit ubuntu i.e?
[18:17] <WHAT_LEFT> you can't directly, but there are ways to do so
[18:17] <tesuji> theseb: I have 64bit and everything works
[18:17] <Guddu> theseb:  I am using 64 bit and it works just fine.
[18:17] <aaas> emph depending on your proficiency..navigate to the directory with the movie file and try 'mplayer <name of movie>' or 'ffmpeg <name of movie>'
[18:17] <WHAT_LEFT> theseb: i use 64 bit and things seem to work well
[18:17] <theseb> tesuji: wait...did you install 64bit or are you making the case it is better to install 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit cpu?
[18:17] <Guddu> theseb:  32 bit programs will work fine on 64bit (in emulation mode).
[18:17] <tesuji> aaas, let him try vlc first
[18:18] <aaas> tesuji no ;)
[18:18] <emph> wilee-nilee: There's no "bad cause and effect", using Windows I was able to watch movies with ease, now I can't, therefore it's not my hardware but rather my software.
[18:18] <Guddu> WHAT_LEFT:  What is the way to do that? Please let me know
[18:18] <mityaz> I also suggest trying VLC first. Best player
[18:18]  * WHAT_LEFT left
[18:18] <emph> aaas: To be honest, I have no idea how to do that, I'm a newbie using Linux
[18:19] <gpsalessandro> djvjkjf
[18:19] <tesuji> theseb: kindof both. I installed 64 bit and 2 years ago it took me a while to get things to work. Now i reinstalled 64bit and it worked fine too. what I am saying is that you should get both types of applications for things that like hardware
[18:19] <sternfan2012> go to Software Center and install VLC
[18:19] <theseb> tesuji: thanks
[18:19] <aaas> emph well just try different players first you should have several listed in the menu
[18:19] <tesuji> aaas: hehe ^^
[18:19] <mityaz> or open your console termianl and type sudo apt-get install vlc
[18:19] <emph> aaas: Ok, thanks, I'll try the VLC again now
[18:19] <sternfan2012> VLC runs pretty much everything
[18:20] <theseb> tesuji: is 64bit FASTER? there must be some advantage otherwise why not just put the more reliable 32bit ubuntu on your machine?
[18:20] <Guest13234> hello peps does i need update grub after deleting linux deepin partition from my ubuntu system to reboot again to ubuntu
[18:20] <emph> sternfan2012: It's not really that the player I use can't run the movie, it's that the movie freezes sometimes for some mysterious reason
[18:20] <tesuji> theseb: no its not faster
[18:20] <theseb> tesuji: *sigh*..then what is the point?
[18:20] <tesuji> theseb: it depends on your memory
[18:20] <Cpudan80> Hey
[18:20] <sternfan2012> I use 64-bit on virtually everything - nothing to worry about
[18:21] <Guest13234> what u people think about umplayer best media player
[18:21] <tesuji> theseb: there is only so much room for memory adresses in 32 bits of space
[18:21] <theseb> tesuji: really? i just got 32bit all nice and i'm not sure if i should REINSTALL w/ 64bit ubuntu
[18:21] <Cpudan80> How can I have the window size displayed when resizing the window? (12.04/GNOME)
[18:21] <Marzata> "Your clock is 9.0 seconds ahead." and ntp works? a fix?
[18:21] <tesuji> theseb: how much memory do you have
[18:21] <gordonjcp> if you're not using more than 4GB of RAM, there's not a lot of point in using 64-bit
[18:21] <theseb> tesuji: 4 gigs
[18:21] <sternfan2012> 32-bit tops out at 4gb ram
[18:21] <tesuji> theseb: 32 bit is fine then
[18:21] <tesuji> theseb: the speedups are SOOOO small you would not notice them. they are around 8%
[18:21] <gordonjcp> sternfan2012: unless you use PAE
[18:21] <theseb> gordonjcp: aha! yes i rem that....the point of 64bit is to *ACCESS* more than 4Gb ram
[18:22] <mityaz> sternfan2012: I'd say 3.5 RAM
[18:22] <theseb> gordonjcp: now it is coming back to me
[18:22] <gordonjcp> theseb: but as I said, you can get round that with PAE
[18:22] <sternfan2012> yeah gordon - I have an old dell server that is 32-bit but takes 8gb ram
[18:22] <mityaz> PAE is bad practice
[18:22] <gordonjcp> if you use 64-bit OSes of any sort, get used to reporting bugs
[18:22] <ThinkT510> mityaz +1
[18:22] <gordonjcp> *nothing* works properly in 64-bit
[18:22] <mityaz> It's usually slower with PAE
[18:22] <tesuji> gordonjcp: complete bs my friend
[18:22] <ThinkT510> gordonjcp: that is utter rubbish
[18:22] <mityaz> gordonjcp: don't believe that :P
[18:23] <tesuji> gordonjcp: this system works find
[18:23] <tesuji> fine*
[18:23] <gordonjcp> every piece of software out there has got some sort of open bug due to 32/64-bit issues
[18:23] <gordonjcp> everything
[18:23] <mityaz> you know, some linux distros are thinking of giving up *good-old* x86 and stay at x86-64
[18:23] <sternfan2012> I have servers, desktops and laptops all running 64-bit = just fine
[18:23] <gordonjcp> it may not be a hugely important bug, but it's there
[18:23] <tesuji> you are supposing a piece of code is perfect on 32bit then?
[18:23] <mityaz> 64 used to suck about 4-5 years ago. now it's fine
[18:23] <sternfan2012> the only real reason to use 32-bit is if the hardware is 32-bit
[18:23] <gordonjcp> mityaz: it's getting better
[18:24] <gordonjcp> but only because we keep filing bugs
[18:24] <emph> aaas: I downloaded VLC, I played the movie, but it's the same: It all goes smooth but then sometimes it slows down or downright freezes for somet ime
[18:24] <tesuji> not because youre filing bugs, but because somebody is fixing them, ffs
[18:24] <gordonjcp> I'm about to drop 64-bit Precise on this machine and switch back to 32-bit
[18:24] <adoet_t> hello, can i install KDE dektop on gnome 12.04 ? with separated account ?
[18:24] <tesuji> whats wrong with you
[18:24] <gordonjcp> tesuji: can't fix 'em if you don't know about 'em
[18:24] <aaas> emph do you have other movies to try
[18:25] <sternfan2012> emph - do you have enough hardware to run what you are trying to do?
[18:25] <tesuji> gordonjcp: wait
[18:25] <gordonjcp> adoet_t: if you install KDE it will show up in the login screen as an option
[18:25] <ThinkT510> !kde | adoet_t
[18:25] <emph> aaas: Not really, at least for now, but the movie did work well with the windows player on windows
[18:25] <theseb> gordonjcp: lol...you are about to do the exact OPPOSITE of what i'm debating
[18:25] <emph> sternfan2012: Yes, more than enough
[18:25] <gordonjcp> theseb: have you got a good reason to switch?
[18:25] <gordonjcp> theseb: if it works, don't fix it
[18:25] <aaas> emph do you know how to open a terminal?
[18:26] <emph> aaas: Yes
[18:26] <aaas> emph navigate the terminal at all?
[18:26] <tesuji> never mind
[18:26] <emph> aaas: I can open it... lol
[18:26]  * aaas 's motto if it works, upgrade it ;) 
[18:26] <sternfan2012> did you install the "restricted extras"?
[18:26] <emph> aaas: I only know gksudo, that's al for commands
[18:26] <theseb> gordonjcp: i just figured if you got the hardware why not use it like it was meant to be used
[18:26] <aaas> emph do you know the directory your movie is in?
[18:26] <emph> aaas: Yes
[18:26] <gordonjcp> theseb: it'll work, but flash will be even flakier than usual
[18:27] <aaas> emph do you know how to use the cd command and pwd?
[18:27] <shadedpixel> Can somebody help me with this? http://pastebin.com/dz6TJahN
[18:27] <emph> aaas: no
[18:27] <gordonjcp> theseb: firefox and thunderbird will consume twice as much memory and frequently go spinning off into 100% CPU usage
[18:27] <ThinkT510> emph: cd /where/you/want/to/go
[18:27] <aaas> emph ill msg you so we don't spam the channel and hold your hand through the terminal ;)
[18:27] <emph> ThinkT510: thanks, then gksudo is to execute a program?
[18:28] <iim> hi
[18:28] <emph> aaas: alright and thanks, aaas
[18:28] <exaem> emph: gksudo is to execute a graphical program
[18:28] <emph> exaem: oh, okay
[18:28] <shadedpixel> Oh and thank you in advance
[18:28] <theseb> gordonjcp: then how come 2 people few min ago just said all is fine for them? maybe that was the story 2 yrs ago?
[18:28] <ThinkT510> emph: gksudo is for launching graphical apps as root
[18:28] <tesuji> iim, dont ask to ask, just ask
[18:28] <cat-orze> hola
[18:28] <iim> ping 192.168.0.2541
[18:28] <iim> ping 192.168.0.254
[18:29] <tesuji> is he slow or something?
[18:29] <exaem> tesuji: hey man, don't be rude :-)
[18:29] <tesuji> exaem: sorry
[18:29] <gordonjcp> theseb: maybe they've got 16GB of RAM
[18:30] <Guest13234> i dont know will i get ubuntu back after reboot .......lol.
[18:30] <tesuji> exaem: youre a good man/woman thanks
[18:30] <shadedpixel> http://pastebin.com/dz6TJahN Please?
[18:30] <flametai1> Hi everyone I have an Acer Aspire V5-471 with a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222 wireless card and I can't get any internet working on it, it doesn't have an ethernet port, anyone have any ideas on how to get it going?
[18:30] <tesuji> Guest13234: Have a livedvd ready
[18:30] <theseb> gordonjcp: kind of funny that your memory usage gets punished if you're man enough to try 64bit
[18:31] <xangua> shadedpixel: normally people give a description of their problem Here
[18:31] <Smitham> Hello, I'm trying to install Matlab 2012a on my Ubuntu 12.04x64 system.  I'm having trouble getting JRE 7 to install
 ihave live usb
[18:31] <ThinkT510> shadedpixel: 10.10 is no longer supported
[18:31] <theadmin> shadedpixel: 10.10 is dead
[18:31] <Guest13234> but tell me how i update grub entry i deleted deepin linux partition just
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> !grub > keshav
[18:33] <Newtoubuntu> hey all again. i am unable to mount my main windows  HD partition. i used the ntfs config tool and had it working fine for days and now i can not mount it. how can i fix this?
[18:33] <tesuji> keshav: good make a live bootable thing, do your stuff and cross your fingers
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> Newtoubuntu, might the ntfs need a chkdsc?
[18:34] <tesuji> keshav: then you can recover anytime
[18:34] <Newtoubuntu> wilee-nilee, i doubt it. : /
[18:35] <larsvdv> can anyone help me im new on ubuntu but my graphics card is leaking.. its crap how can i fix this ?
[18:35] <Smitham> can anyone tell me how to install JRE 7 on my 12.04x64 system?
[18:35] <tesuji> how do you think, after steam goes to linux, can we make the welcome proper?
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> Newtoubuntu, How are you trying to mount it, at boot in a terminal from the side panel in home?
[18:35] <exaem> tesuji: buy games on it
[18:36] <tesuji> exaem: no thats for people who already use linux, how about people who have only heard of it
[18:36] <sternfan2012> flametail - I would try a USB nic
[18:37] <onlylove> does anyone who use a wcdma modem? i can't dial with a zte mf100
[18:37] <veric> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
[18:38] <theseb> tesuji, gordonjcp: thank you very much for the help
[18:38] <tesuji> theseb: no problem you know we love you
[18:39] <s1n4> hey, how can I select text in terminal using keyboard?
[18:40] <theadmin> s1n4: You can't really do that
[18:41] <s1n4> theadmin: why the heck?
[18:41] <flametai1> Hi everyone I have an Acer Aspire V5-471 with a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222 wireless card and I can't get any internet working on it, it doesn't have an ethernet port, anyone have any ideas on how to get it going?
[18:41] <theadmin> s1n4: Because all keyboard presses are transmitted to the shell?
[18:41] <j4rg0n> is there a way to turn of the join and quit notices in here
[18:42] <flametai1> The card will see networks but it won't load webpages or anything
[18:42] <theadmin> j4rg0n: Depends on your client. Try: /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS
[18:42] <j4rg0n> I'm using irssi
[18:42] <theadmin> j4rg0n: Then that, yeah
[18:43] <j4rg0n> thanks hard to read with em all goin a mile a minute
[18:43] <sternfan2012> what is "deepin"?
[18:43] <ThinkT510> sternfan2012: another distro, unsupported here
[18:43] <Cpudan80> Hey I've got a problem with xhcat in gnome, the title bar takes up too much space and expands onto two lines...
[18:43] <Cpudan80> See http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9366/screenshotfrom201209031.png
[18:43] <ThinkT510> Cpudan80: most strange, i've never come accross that
[18:43] <Cpudan80> ThinkT510: you're using gnome (vs unity)?
[18:43] <ThinkT510> Cpudan80: unity 12.04
[18:43] <Cpudan80> yeah I switched it to gnome...
[18:43] <Cpudan80> Is there a specific gnome channel for ubuntu?
[18:43] <ThinkT510> Cpudan80: no
[18:43] <Cpudan80> resizing the window has no effect btw
[18:43] <ThinkT510> Cpudan80: haha, you read my mind, i was about to suggest that
[18:43] <FloodBot1> Cpudan80: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:44] <flametai1> I take it nobody knows???
[18:45] <Psi-Jack> It /should/ be safe to uninstall all packages with :i386 in them, correct? Without adverse system-side effects?
[18:45] <sternfan2012> flametail - encryption?  wep? wpa? wpa2?
[18:45] <flametai1> sternfan2012: WEP Hex
[18:45] <theadmin> Psi-Jack: Well, yeah... Unless you're on a 32-bit system
[18:45] <sternfan2012> flame - can you pin anything?
[18:45] <ray76> flametail can you ping any servers through the connection
[18:46] <wilsonbradley> Howdy
[18:46] <sternfan2012> ping the default gateway
[18:46] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Yeah, 64-bit system/OS here, so good there.
[18:46] <IdleOne> Psi-Jack: Should be, there are a few packages that are i386 only but you would have installed those yourself, they aren't default.
[18:46] <Psi-Jack> theadmin: Reinstall of all packages was a success, so far. Except that Chrome is still having some issues.
[18:46] <flametai1> Haven't attempted to, TBH I'm not the brightest when it comes to the commands for Linux sternfan2012
[18:46] <Psi-Jack> IdleOne: Perfect. I do know I installed /some/ 32-bit packages myself just for Second Life to run, but that's it.
[18:47] <sternfan2012> in the menus - find Network Tools
[18:47] <Benxyzzy> Anybody know of a soulseek client suitable for ubuntu server?
[18:48] <jcheung> don't suppose anyone knows how i can change the server? xD
[18:48] <DDAZZA> Hi I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.4 ona acer aspire D257.  I've managed to install ubuntu with a usb however when I turn on the netbook it doesn't go to the grub screen unless I boot with the usb. Any ideas how I can resolve this?
[18:48] <ray76> flametail open a terminal and type "ping www.google.com"   CTRL c  cancels
[18:48] <rhombus> What is the name of the Ubuntu package manager?
[18:48] <rhombus> I should point out that I am a Gentoo user who is setting up a machine for a family member.
[18:48] <theadmin> rhombus: APT is the name of the whole thing. apt-get is the tool to work with it.
[18:48] <flametai1> ray76: And if it can't do that is there a fix? I'm currently having to use windows on the computer that I'm working on because there is no other computer to chat from
[18:48] <Graphical> ubuntu software center
[18:49] <theadmin> Graphical: That's just the GUI frontend.
[18:49] <bekks> theadmin: dpkg is the package management system, apt-get is just a frontend.
[18:49] <rhombus> theadmin: ok, that is the command line package manager, same as in Debian. Is there a GUI package manager?
[18:49] <Graphical> or apt
[18:49] <bekks> rhombus: synaptic is a GUI frontend.
[18:49] <theadmin> rhombus: Synaptic, Muon, Ubuntu Software Center... Over 9000 of them >.<
[18:49] <rhombus> theadmin: So you can see why I am asking this question, now :)
[18:50] <L3gEnD> Ciao a tutti :D
[18:50] <hapster> what's the final say on Ubuntu's 12.10 kernel version?
[18:50] <ray76> Flame if that dont work i guess your network card is not installed,,  divice divers are a little out of my range...  does it look like there is a wifi network ?
[18:50] <ddilinger> i'm running do-release-upgrade from a box running maverick, its updating to oneiric.  I get quite a few 'Err http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security/restricted Translation-en
[18:50] <rhombus> which is the one that is best supported? keep in mind, this is a for a family member who is computer impaired.
[18:50] <rhombus> and does it make any difference that this is a kubuntu system?
[18:50] <exaem> rhombus: Ubuntu Software Center
[18:50] <sternfan2012> flame says that he can see the networks (I assume wireless) - but can't browse anything
[18:51] <rhombus> exaem: lemme see if I can find that in KDE.
[18:51] <theadmin> rhombus: The KDE edition of Ubuntu uses Muon
[18:51] <gordonjcp> rhombus: if it's for someone "computer impaired" as you put it, just stick with stock Ubuntu
[18:51] <ddilinger> after do-release-upgrade complains about some missing stuff (presumably from apt-get update) it still tries to continue, has ~2000 packages to update.  The problem is it fails to download various packages and then quits
[18:51] <L3gEnD> salve
[18:52] <ThinkT510> ddilinger: you can't upgrade from mavarick to oneiric directly
[18:52] <j4rg0n> That worked
[18:52] <rhombus> gordonjcp: I'd prefer not to inflict gnome on this person.
[18:52] <rhombus> theadmin: yeah, I noticed that there is no Ubuntu Software Center.
[18:53] <gordonjcp> rhombus: stick with stock Ubuntu, and Unity
[18:53] <gordonjcp> rhombus: it's much simpler for everyone concerned
[18:53] <ddilinger> ThinkT510: oops, i mean to say i upgraded from maverick to natty, that one was success.  i'm now doing the second do-release-upgrade from the freshly booted natty install
[18:53] <sternfan2012> gordon - I setup a netbook for a "non computer" person and used XFCE (xubuntu) - worked pretty well
[18:54] <ThinkT510> ddilinger: why don't you just fresh install 12.04 instead of jumping through several upgrade hoops?
[18:54] <emph> Problem: Using Ubuntu, I try to watch a movie both with the default player and the VLC one and, at least if I jump to different parts of the film, the video itself freezes or slows down temporarily (the system is fine, the player is fine, the video itself is the one that freezes, although the sound of it is continuous and doesn't get cut)
[18:54] <jcheung> anyone know how i can go about changing chat servers with xchat-gnome irc?
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> ddilinger, natty is end of life the repos are not set to run a update stock.
[18:54] <rhombus> theadmin: ok, so next question -- when I try to install Firefox with Muon, it complains that it can't authenticate a bunch of dependency packages it needs to install. I thought this was all being pulled from a ubuntu repository.
[18:54] <gordonjcp> emph: sounds like you may be using non-accelerated graphics
[18:54] <anlarye> ddilinger: i would agree to do the fresh install if you are way back on maverick instead of attempting to go thorugh several upgrades
[18:55] <gordonjcp> emph: or your disk is very slow for some reason
[18:55] <ddilinger> thinkt510: because it has various development stuff on it all configured,  when i've used do-release-upgrade before there were no hoops, just hitting yes a number of times
[18:55] <WARACE> hi
[18:55] <theadmin> rhombus: "authenticate"? Hm, I never had such problems, then again all I use is apt-get
[18:55] <rhombus> gordonjcp: so far, you have just said things, but not really supported them. What is wrong with Kubuntu?
[18:55] <emph> gordonjcp: what do you mean by non-accelerated graphics? If it's of any use, I was able to reproduce any sort of movie using the windows player in windows
[18:55] <rhombus> theadmin: muon actually uses that term.
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> ddilinger  if you're skilled enough to be a developer, you should have had a separate /home partition
[18:56] <exaem> d
[18:56] <WARACE> anyone available I need a little bit of direction I am looking to deploy a server with Apache and a mail server
[18:56] <sternfan2012> emph - are you saying the PC you are using used to have windows and ran movies fine?  But you put ubuntu on it and now its slow?
[18:56] <gordonjcp> emph: well, depending on your graphics hardware, you may need a proprietary binary-blob driver
[18:56] <ddilinger> MonkeyDust: the problem isnt backups, or even home dir thats easy.  i just didn't want to reconfigure a bunch of stuff :P
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> WARACE  maybe #ubuntu-server suits you better
[18:56] <subz3r0> jcheung, you should not use xchat-gnome version. this version is more likely castrated... use the plain xchat version
[18:56] <emph> sternfan2012: Exactly
[18:56] <gordonjcp> rhombus: are you having problems installing just now?  Well then...
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> ddilinger, your in natty right?
[18:57] <emph> gordonjcp: Where can I get that?
[18:57] <ddilinger> wilee-nilee: yes, the upgrade to natty worked great
[18:57] <sternfan2012> warace - what kind of email server?
[18:57] <ddilinger> wilee-nilee: if i have to, i will just install the latest directly via a usb stick, just would rather not
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> ddilinger, natty is end of life you need to to a end of life upgrade from it.
[18:57] <WARACE> Not sure what email server yet
[18:58] <WARACE> I am looking for suggestions
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> !eol
[18:58] <emph> gordonjcp: It's an ATI Radeon HD
[18:58] <sternfan2012> is it a purchase?  open source? free?
[18:58] <ddilinger> wilee-nilee: excellent, thanks
[18:58] <pcov> cuold anyone help me to uninstall nubuntu 12.04 from a dual boot windows 7 machine
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> ddilinger, I hope you are backed up as well. ;)
[18:58] <gordonjcp> WARACE: postfix and dovecot seem to be the weapon of choice
[18:58] <WARACE> looking for open source but dont mind spending money for ease of use and security
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> pcov, you just want windows?
[18:58] <sternfan2012> warace - look into Zimbra
[18:59] <hfic> ok so i apt-get purge samba .. and apt-get install samba. apt says it installed and started the service, but ps -ef | grep smb shows nothing running. and /etc/samba doesn't get created?
[18:59] <pcov> yes thanks , i have backed up my machine
[18:59] <sternfan2012> I ran a Zimbra server for years - very sweet
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> pcov, you sau dual bopot, but I have to ask was Ubuntu installed from windows or a booted cd or usb
[18:59] <WARACE> Hmmm Zimbra seems good from everything I have seen on it
[18:59] <subz3r0> pcov, how often you want to ask this question? just "ERASE" the damn thing
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> say*
[18:59] <sternfan2012> postfix is a horror to config - wanted to pull my eyes out
[19:00] <Boreeas> Is there a way to retrieve a file removed via rm?
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> pcov, sorry bopot is dualboot
[19:00] <emph> gordonjcp: Could you give me more information on such driver, please?
[19:00] <pcov> i just want windows7 back, and any partitions that wubi has put in please
[19:00] <Apwbdjp> hfic, samba is not a deamon, check for smbd
[19:00] <gordonjcp> !ati | emph
[19:00] <sternfan2012> warace - or Citadel - an all-in-one server
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> pcov, wubi does not make partitions go to the windows admin acct and user add remove.
[19:00] <xangua> pcov: if you used wubi just remove it from the add/quit windows app
[19:01] <emph> ubottu: Thanks, ubottu
[19:01] <sternfan2012> as for Apache - that's pretty basic - I use webmin just for the speed of getting it up and running
[19:01] <hfic> Apwbdjp, it would still grab anything listed with 'smb'. ..but still no nothing running. I just had it installed and I've been messing with a problem for several days. So I figured I would just start fresh
[19:02] <larsvdv> can someone help me with my driver for the hd radeon hd 5400?
[19:02] <larsvdv> please
[19:02] <pcov> thanks willee-nilee, i was told to uninstall ubuntu from the wubi installer.
[19:02] <Apwbdjp> hfic, so sudo stop/start smbd gives nothing?
[19:02] <larsvdv> i cant watch anything on my laptop
[19:02] <rhombus> gordonjcp: um...No, I am not having problems installing. I have a question that you seem unable to answer.
[19:02] <subz3r0> Boreeas, check ext3rminator or photorec
[19:02] <subz3r0> if its ext3/4
[19:02] <sternfan2012> if you run an email server with any amount of users - use Raid-10
[19:03] <larsvdv> can someone help me with my driver for the hd radeon hd 5400?
[19:03] <epinky> !radeon
[19:03] <hfic> Apwbdjp, sudo service smbd start says it restarted .. but it doesnt
[19:03] <larsvdv> tnx
[19:04] <WARACE> hmmm
[19:04] <gordonjcp> rhombus: ask your question
[19:04] <subz3r0> hfic, "sudo service smbd reload"
[19:04] <subz3r0> or restart
[19:04] <rhombus> gordonjcp: why does muon report that it is unable to authenticate package dependencies when I install firefox?
[19:04] <hfic> subz3r0, entbox@boc1:/$ sudo service smbd reload
[19:04] <hfic> reload: Unknown instance:
[19:05] <gordonjcp> rhombus: well, without seeing the error message *verbatim* I can't really answer
[19:05] <subz3r0> hfic, so its not running in the background. check the samba logs why its not starting
[19:05] <gordonjcp> rhombus: it may not have the correct set of public keys for the repositories that are set up
[19:05] <subz3r0> im sure something with your config is just wrong
[19:06] <larsvdv> ! radeon
[19:07] <sliddjur> Hello does linux mint and ubuntu basicly have the same commands ?
[19:07] <sliddjur> in the terminal
[19:07] <dtcrshr> basically yes
[19:07] <subz3r0> yes
[19:07] <subz3r0> like all linux distros
[19:07] <hfic> subz3r0, ok I get spammed with 'error opening config file'.. I'm assuming its looking for smb.conf in /etc/samba .. but that never gets created. Which I believe is my underline issue.
[19:07] <rhombus> gordonjcp: Warning: Unverified Software / The following pieces of software cannot be authenticated. WARNING: Installing unverified software represents a security risk, as the presence of unverifiable software can be a sign of tampering. Do you wish to continue?
[19:08] <gordonjcp> rhombus: can you tie that into a particular repository?
[19:08] <gordonjcp> sliddjur: all Linuxes are pretty much the same
[19:08] <sliddjur> well im taking a linux class at the uni. he said he's going to use ubuntu, but you might aswell use another dist. ive tried both before, and liked the UI of mint more. even though we will mostly use the terminal as a tool in our course
[19:09] <WARACE> anyone know where I can take linux server classes online?
[19:09] <rhombus> gordonjcp: I can take a look, I am new to muon -- ubuntu in general
[19:09] <subz3r0> hfic, if this is a fresh installation. purge the samba server... "sudo apt-get purge ......." after that deltete the configs by hand and reinstall everything. sounds like someting went wrong while the installation. why? i dont know. just use the version which ubuntu will install when u do "sudo apt-get install..."
[19:09] <sliddjur> WARACE: where you from?
[19:09] <WARACE> I am in New York
[19:09] <WARACE> USA
[19:10] <Linux> every time I run sudo apt-get upgrade I get a error message about failing to fetch cdrom Lubuntu 12.04
[19:10] <gordonjcp> rhombus: kubuntu is a respin of Ubuntu, and it has some weirdnesses
[19:10] <gordonjcp> !kubuntu | rhombus
[19:10] <hfic> subz3r0, thats what i did apt-get purge and than reinstalled with apt-get install samba. This is where my problem is because it didn't create the /etc/samba
[19:10] <sliddjur> WARACE: im on a linux server class in sweden. online. its for free for europeans ;)
[19:10] <W4RH4WK> hello, does anyone have some information about ubuntu tablets (which might be coming 2013 or 2014) i'm looking for information about the freedom canonical will provide. Anybody knows if these tablets will be locked up like an ipad.
[19:10] <exaem> W4RH4WK: Simple answer, get Android.
[19:10] <oal> Any suggested apps that start webcam recording when movement is detected? We have pretty clear signs that we'll have a burglary attempt tonight or tomorrow night, and I'd like to set up a camera to watch
[19:11] <WARACE> I wish i was in sweden right about now
[19:11] <exaem> W4RH4WK: Nobody knows about Ubuntu tablets yet.
[19:11] <theadmin> Linux: Remove it from software sources then (either edit /etc/apt/sources-list or use either software-properties-gtk or software-properties-kde)
[19:11] <W4RH4WK> exaem: i don't want aondroid on a tablet
[19:11] <exaem> W4RH4WK: Ubuntu won't be on tablets for a couple of years, you don't have a chocie really :P
[19:11] <sternfan2012> <<< never heard of ubuntu tablets
[19:11] <subz3r0> hfic, if its just /etc/samba you can make the it by urself. just check somewhere for the configs
[19:11] <Psi-Jack> exaem: Simple answer? More like, slap in the face retort!
[19:11] <dr_willis> theres allready a kubuntu tablet out W4RH4WK . in europe i hear. but its not related to canocal
[19:11] <exaem> Psi-Jack: Not at all!
[19:12] <subz3r0> dr_willis, there is no ubuntu tablet out there in the EU
[19:12] <Psi-Jack> exaem: I'm all okay with Android and all, but if I had a choice to run fully functional Ubuntu on a tablet like my 10" Toshiba Thrive, I'd be much more FOR that.
[19:12] <dr_willis> subz3r0:  seen articals about one with KUBUNTU came out last month from what i read
[19:13] <subz3r0> dr_willis, i dont see any. im from germany, so i guess it would arrive here very soon
[19:13] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: look at Archos tablets
[19:13] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: Android-based. And?
[19:13] <ThinkT510> !ot
[19:13] <Psi-Jack> heh
[19:13] <dr_willis> !arm
[19:13] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: they are somewhat locked down by default, but on the Archos website there is the page for the "Special Developer Firmware"
[19:13] <W4RH4WK> i'm with Psi-Jack, Android is cool yes, but i'd rather have a fully functional "GNU/Linux Distro" on a tablet than this frankenstein linux (sry)
[19:13] <rhombus> gordonjcp: ok, I have the settings open... have you used muon?
[19:13] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: you can unlock 'em by installing SDF
[19:14] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: this will void your warranty, and indeed it says on the website "This is for people who know what they are doing. You probably don't want this."
[19:14] <gordonjcp> rhombus: no, I avoid KDE wherever possible
[19:14] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: Yet, as dr_willis pointed out, still ARM-based, not CISC
[19:14] <subz3r0> hfic, http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/appa.html
[19:14] <rhombus> gordonjcp: to each, his own. I avoid gnome wherever possible.
[19:14] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: you're not going to get an x86-based tablet any time soon
[19:14] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: there's nowhere to put the car battery
[19:14] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: They started out being x86.
[19:14] <hfic> subz3r0, yeah I forgot I had backed up the entire dir the other night. I'm restoring from that atm.
[19:14] <W4RH4WK> at IFA i talked to some Archos guys which told me that, archos tablets can be easily "unlocked" (they are not even locked but i call it unlocked here) and you can run nativ linux distributions on it without much pain, but i'd rather have some kind of supported piece of hardware
[19:14] <Linux> is there a lubuntu channel
[19:14] <gordonjcp> rhombus: I find KDE to be far too complicated
[19:15] <gordonjcp> !lubuntu | Linux
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Linux: #lubuntu
[19:15] <gordonjcp> Linux: ask and ye shall receive
[19:15] <subz3r0> gordonjcp, rhombus, maybe you could have this talk inside of the OT-chan?
[19:15] <gordonjcp> subz3r0: that's a good idea
[19:15] <rhombus> gordonjcp: so, what about the repository configuration might be causing issues with authentication? I have a Kubuntu tab, an other tab, an updates tab, and an authentication tab...
[19:15] <dr_willis> Linux:  if its asking for the cd.. remove the cd entry in your ;sources' listing, via your package manager
[19:15] <sternfan2012> I spent some time with Lubuntu - could never figure out a way to put the COMPUTER icon on the desktop - moved to xubuntu
[19:15] <subz3r0> we dont care what you prefer. if its kubuntu go to #kubuntu and dont mess around in here
[19:16] <gordonjcp> rhombus: you might do better asking in #kubuntu
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> sternfan2012: why do you need it?
[19:16] <Linux> i did i removed it using synapic
[19:16] <eshlox> hi, who uses ubuntu and uwsgi? i still get the meessage: group www-data not found (exists in the file groups), if i try add uwsgi user and group.. still the same, suggestions? ;-> uwsgi config: http://wklej.org/id/823695/ log: http://wklej.org/id/823699/ when i set i set uid = uwsgi and gui = uwsgi, http://wklej.org/id/823711/ ;-S
[19:16] <dr_willis> changeing desktops because of a single icon....  ;)
[19:16] <sternfan2012> for a non-technical user
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: yeah..weird
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> the default email client isn't evolution...i'm switchingto arch
[19:17] <Linux>  my cd drive isnt working
[19:17] <seraph13> i installed the newest ubuntu and i put wine winetricks and play on linux and when i went to install e sword it installed but it wont open for me to even use it or read any of the bibles
[19:17] <gordonjcp> Linux: no great loss
[19:17]  * dr_willis what 'computer'  icon would open on pcmanfm
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Linux: can you expand on 'not working' please
[19:17] <gordonjcp> Linux: we have these things called "USB drives" now
[19:17] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: Example: Tablet: CISC-based, originally stock with Windows: http://www.amazon.com/Compaq-TC1100-Tablet-Pentium-Centrino/dp/B0000ZPOUG
[19:17] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: That's from YEARS ago. :)
[19:17] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: yes, I've used them
[19:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: battery life measured in minutes
[19:18] <subz3r0> the default explorter for the web isnt the INTERNETEXPLORER. switchting to windOZE...
[19:18] <subz3r0> bleh?
[19:18] <subz3r0> :>
[19:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: with a highly-tuned install of Linux on one I was able to squeeze nearly an hour out of a fully-charged battery
[19:18] <dr_willis> default exploiter. ;)
[19:18] <Psi-Jack> gordonjcp: Actually, I usually got 2 hours out of it.
[19:18] <subz3r0> :p
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> XPloitation
[19:18] <Linux> when i put blank cds in it  it won't notice them when i put burned cds in there it works
[19:18] <gordonjcp> Psi-Jack: they were *stunning* but the CPU and battery technology just weren't there
[19:19] <sternfan2012> the netbook I just setup has a battery life of about 6 hours with xubuntu
[19:19] <subz3r0> because there is no filesystem on the cd?
[19:19] <theadmin> Linux: Uh, you use a disk burner with blank CDs...
[19:19] <theadmin> Linux: Brasero, K3b, such things
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Linux: what burning apps have you tried?
[19:19] <Psi-Jack> sternfan2012: Exactly. ;)
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> xfburn too :)
[19:19] <ThinkT510> seraph13: you could try bibletime
[19:19] <ThinkT510> !bibletime | seraph13
[19:19] <subz3r0> no korantime out there?
[19:20] <ThinkT510> !info bibletime | seraph13
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> !info bibletime
[19:20] <hfic> subz3r0, just to let you know I was able to restore and get smb running around. However my problem still persists... o well :/ keep looking into it I guess
[19:20] <sternfan2012> PSI - yeah - I redid a netbook for a friend that had Linpus on it...
[19:20] <Linux> I tried brasero and it said it didnt notice a cd when a cd was in there
[19:20] <sternfan2012> never heard of Linpus until I did the format
[19:20] <subz3r0> hfic, no config files = samba wont run. if the files do not exist, create them
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Linux: is it a SATA optical drive?
 when i put blank cds in it  it won't notice them when i put burned cds in there it works --> what should ubuntu mount, if there is nothing to mount? its a blank/empty cd
[19:21] <hfic> subz3r0, that part is resolved. I should have rephrased it .. my long time issue, the one that made me try and start fresh ... that problem still continues.
[19:21] <subz3r0> in other words, there is no filesystem
[19:22] <Linux> it a ide cd drive
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Linux: does the system have a make and model?
[19:23] <Linux> Its a ibm think cente refurished by compusa
[19:23] <subz3r0> hfic, no idea, i just came around and see you had problems while trying to start samba
[19:24] <subz3r0> see/saw
[19:24] <Linux> it notced blank cds in window xp
[19:24] <emph> gordonjcp: So I tried to download the ATI driver I needed through the "Additional drivers" Ubuntu application, but it says there's an error and I can 't read the error log because I don't know how to get to the destination: /var/log/jockey.log
[19:24] <paolina> ciao qualcuno mi può aiutare????
[19:25] <ThinkT510> paolina: /join #ubuntu-it
[19:25] <subz3r0> emph, inside of the terminal you want to type: sudo pico /var/log/jockey.log (to exit the writer hit ctrl+x)
[19:26] <theadmin> subz3r0: pico? lols! It's been called "nano" for years now
[19:26] <emph> subz3r0: Ok, thanks, what does pico do anyway?
[19:26] <theadmin> subz3r0: Though, /usr/bin/pico is a symlink to /usr/bin/nano but still
[19:26] <ThinkT510> emph: text editor
[19:26] <subz3r0> theadmin, show me one who cares. i dont
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> subz3r0  theadmin try sudo -e to edit
[19:27] <theadmin> subz3r0: Actually, some may. Reason is /usr may not be mounted. nano actually resides in /bin so that won't be a problem, but there's no /bin/pico.
[19:27] <Linux> i have a hl-dt-st-rw/dvd gcc-4482b dvd drive
[19:28] <tiredbones> current system is 9.10 and I am trying to upgrade to 10.04 on my to 12.04. the error i get while trying to install is "BusyBox v1.13.3 can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs). I did the help thing, but have no idea what command to enter.
[19:28] <ThinkT510> !eol | tiredbones
[19:28] <subz3r0> theadmin, it realy doesnt matter if he uses "pico" or "nano". i use pico for ages, so why should i dont give him this advice, even if its STILL working?
[19:29] <theadmin> subz3r0: Never mind. Just giving you a situation where it won't work :P
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> subz3r0  sudo -e opens the default editor
[19:29] <sternfan2012> Linux - what's the problem?
[19:29] <Myke974_> ubuntu server 12.04 Lts : I have 4go ram with 512 for a ramdisk. what are best valords for kernel.shmall & kernel.shmmax ? I'm going to use Zoneminder
[19:30] <Linux> my dvd drive wont noce blank cds so i can't burn cds
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> Myke974_  there's also the channel #ubuntu-server
[19:30] <subz3r0> MonkeyDust, thx for sharing, but why tellin us that? theadmin just made clear, that pico does not exit anymore. its just a symlink to nano
[19:30] <Linux> my dvd drive wont notice blank cds so i can't burn cds
[19:31] <sternfan2012> are you 100% sure its a burner?  And not a cd-burner/dvd reader?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Linux: if you run:  sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive; lsb_release -a      can you please pastebin the output
[19:31] <exaem> Linux: burn it to a thumb drive then
[19:31] <theadmin> subz3r0: Because some people actually use an editor (vim, emacs) rather than nano, so yeah, sudo -e (or "sudoedit") works better in such situations.
[19:32] <sternfan2012> Linux - I just googled your drive - its a CD burner & DVD reader (no a dvd burner)
[19:32] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know how to fix the problem where ANY full screen video (VLC, Flash, etc), is playing on Dual-Monitor Nvidia's TwinView, and you'll only see HALF of it on the primary video display?
[19:33] <Psi-Jack> it's tearing, in the middle, as if it's trying to play the movie in the middle of BOTH displays.
[19:33] <sternfan2012> damn - I thought you meant it couldn't see blank DVDs...  oops
[19:34] <rhombus> Ok -- switching repository servers from the one for Canada to the main one, then doing a catalog update, resolved the problem. Muon is not complaining anymore.
[19:34] <subz3r0> theadmin, its more likely offtopic. but sorry, that doesnt matter. pico or nano are working well in just this case. if the user want to learn more he could just write "man pico" and will see its nano as text editor. so in my point of view it doesnt count. Just fixing the issue counts. i just like it to keep it small and simple
[19:34] <theadmin> subz3r0: Yeah, I understand, never mind
[19:35] <Linux> i burned lubuntu onto a cd with this drive in windows xp
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> Linux  cd is not dvd
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Linux: are there any bugs reported?
[19:36] <Linux> not yet
[19:37] <puppy_parade> how to I customize my Unity search when I pull up the hud?
[19:37] <Linux> its odd because it xp i could burn ccds and in ubuntu i cant
[19:37] <kantlivelong> ccds?
[19:37] <Linux> #cds
[19:37] <Linux> its odd because it xp i could burn cds and in ubuntu i cant
[19:37] <kantlivelong> y cant u? doesnt pick up the cdrw?
[19:38] <alexlax10> salve
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> !y| kantlivelong
[19:38] <alexlax10> !list
[19:39]  * Psi-Jack glares to alexlax10 
[19:39] <Linux> my computer knows theres a cd-rom it shows it in disk utitly
[19:39] <sternfan2012> Linux - can you see it in device manager/sys info etc.?
[19:39] <sternfan2012> ok
[19:39] <sternfan2012> that's a new one - thought I saw everything
[19:40] <Linux> whats the command for linux  device manager
[19:40] <bekks> There is no linux device manager.
[19:40] <Psi-Jack> Linux: Linux IS the device manager itself. :p
[19:41] <kantlivelong> Linux: does `dmesg | grep CD` return anything?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Linux: can you pastebin of the command I gave please
[19:41] <missingfaktor> hi could someone please help out with my wine problem?
[19:41] <missingfaktor> http://askubuntu.com/questions/183721/wine-virtual-memory-exhausted
[19:41] <Linux> i did
[19:41] <kantlivelong> missingfaktor: #wine
[19:42] <kantlivelong> missingfaktor: correction #winehq
[19:42] <sternfan2012> go to software center - type in Device Manager - its there - looking at it now
[19:42] <missingfaktor> thanks
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Linux: can you copy the address bar and paste it here please
[19:43] <Guest77691> can any one help me installing a canon lbp1120 on ubuntu?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest77691: did you check te canon europe website?
[19:43] <Linux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184236/
[19:43] <Jagst3r15> does anyone know if the new dell ubuntu laptop to be released this fall will be available for sale on the dell site or will it only be limited
[19:44] <kantlivelong> Linux: well it sees that its writable...does it work with sudo?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Linux: so you are having trouble burning DVD?
[19:45] <Linux> i havent tred sudo yet
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Linux: so you are having trouble burning DVD?
[19:45] <kantlivelong> Linux: or make sure your part of cdrom group
[19:45] <Linux> i having troble burn cd
[19:45] <kantlivelong> Linux: what are you buring with also?
[19:45] <Guest77691> actionParsnip, yes but i cant get it to work :(
[19:45] <Linux> I the admin of my computer
[19:46] <Linux> brasero k3b
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Linux: ok, put a blank CD in the drive and rerun the command. look at the 'status' bit for the opticl drive
[19:46] <mega1> i am running server 10.04 and it has just asked me to up grade to precise should i or would this couse problems
[19:46] <subz3r0> !factoids
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Linux: can you also run:  lsb_release -sc      what is output?
[19:46] <puppy_parade> how to I customize the default Unity global search?
[19:48] <sternfan2012> puppy - have you tried MyUnity?
[19:48] <sternfan2012> a system tweaker?
[19:48] <puppy_parade> that lets me customize superficial things
[19:48] <ReXiO> anyone knows a command for listing existing user groups?
[19:48] <puppy_parade> not see what it searches
[19:48] <Linux> first command http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184268/
[19:49] <W4sp> Guest77691: Download the 1120 driver, run CUPS (localhost:631) to configure the printer queue and printer, install the PPD files or run dpkg.
[19:49] <Linux> the second said presice
[19:50] <ThinkT510> ReXiO: id will list the groups your current user belongs to
[19:51] <adib> hello
[19:51] <adib> any chance anyone knows if it is possible to run 3ds max 2013 in ubuntu 12.04?
[19:52] <puppy_parade> cmon, there's got to be a way to see how the main search works
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ReXiO: cat /etc/group   read the leftmost colomn for the names
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> puppy_parade  http://ubuntuguide.net/three-tools-configuring-ubuntu-11-04-unity-interface
[19:52] <ReXiO> ThinkT510: Oh OK Thanks
[19:52] <ReXiO> ActionParsnip: many thanks
[19:52] <tiredbones> ThinkT510 thanks for the pointers
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ReXiO: tried to get some fancy bash-fu to show only the names, but couldn't find it
[19:53] <ThinkT510> tiredbones: i can't remember what i said but your welcome :)
[19:53] <puppy_parade> MonkeyDust, there is no built in or at least a tool in the repository to tweak the main search?
[19:53] <alecst> sup guys. anyone know off the top of their head why my vimrc is read-only? not sure if this is the place for this question, if it's not i'll leave
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> puppy_parade  i don't like/use unity, only knew that link
[19:54] <puppy_parade> and none of those seem to touch the search
[19:54] <Linux> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184268/
[19:54] <ReXiO> ActionParsnip: haha many thanks I now know Im not on the vboxusers group and it does exist =)
[19:54]  * puppy_parade sighs.
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> puppy_parade  submit it as an idea in !brainstorm
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> ReXiO: could make it then
[19:54] <puppy_parade> I can't even find out how it works
[19:55] <tiredbones> ThinkT510  EOL  9.10 to 12.04
[19:55] <puppy_parade> there has to be more to it than this
[19:55] <ThinkT510> tiredbones: ah
[19:55] <puppy_parade> is there a specific term for the unity search that is run when I press the windows key and start typing?
[19:56] <adib> i suppose no one knwos then?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> puppy_parade: thats called the dash
[19:56] <ThinkT510> puppy_parade: hud
[19:57] <puppy_parade> ThinkT510, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/HUD that is what happens when I press alt in an application
[19:57] <silverarrow> does anyone know how to make battery icon show charge?
[19:57] <ThinkT510> puppy_parade: ah, sorry, thanks
[19:58] <Benxyzzy> Ubuntu 12.04: where is my samba share mounted in the filesystem?
[19:59] <Benxyzzy> It just says 'smb:/' in Nautilus but I know there must be a mountpoint
[19:59] <spiouki> hey I tried to update my avast and when it finished i got an error and now i cant even open it. i got the same prob in virtualbox.  this is the log 12:56:47 PM: Deleted stale lock file '/home/saman/.avast/lockfile-saman'.
[19:59] <spiouki> 12:56:52 PM: An error occured in avast! engine: Invalid argument
[19:59] <adib> why does it feel everyone ignores me...
[20:00] <W4sp> Benxyzzy: Does mount not work?
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> adib  repeat your question from time to time, but not too often
[20:00] <ThinkT510> adib: whats the issue?
[20:00] <puppy_parade> adib, http://usa.autodesk.com/3ds-max/system-requirements/ you would probably have to run it in wine
[20:01] <puppy_parade> might want to go check their site
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> ah wine
[20:01] <Benxyzzy> w4sp: I don't suppose it's .gvfs, is it?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Benxyzzy: run:  mount   to see what is mounted where
[20:01] <adib> i thought about wine, but i heard that doesnt run even decent
[20:01] <Benxyzzy> ActionParsnip: I did, and ~/.gvfs looked the most likely
[20:01]  * average_drifter is looking for a telecommute job involving javascript and/or Perl and/or C/C++
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> average_drifter  wrong channel, this is support
[20:02] <gordonjcp> adib: have you got 3DS Max?
[20:02] <adib> yes
[20:02] <gordonjcp> adib: it wouldn't take you long to fire up wine and try it
[20:02] <gordonjcp> adib: if you do, please check the winedb web page, and report your results
[20:02] <adib> yeah, but i gotta first fix my ubuntu
[20:02] <adib> k i will thanks gordonjcp
[20:02] <puppy_parade> adib, A quick google has using blender as the most common response. It probably doesn't run well.
[20:03] <adib> im a multimedia design student so i cant really switch to blender
[20:03] <puppy_parade> you can try and run it in a VM
[20:03] <gordonjcp> adib: why not?
[20:03] <puppy_parade> if wine doesn't pan out.
[20:03] <adib> because i get taught 3ds max
[20:03] <gordonjcp> adib: ah, okay
[20:03] <ThinkT510> adib: in other words you don't want to
[20:04] <gordonjcp> well if you need it for your course
[20:04] <gordonjcp> it's worth looking at Blender anyway
[20:04] <Ascavasaion> I am running Lubuntu, how do I change to Ubuntu?
[20:04] <spiouki> sorry go connection prob
[20:04] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: did u upgrade?
[20:04] <puppy_parade> adib, if it's  2013 you are looking at, it's probably too new to run on wine as well.
[20:04] <adib> ThinkT510: no offense, but i cant just switch as the only one in the class with the teacher knowing like nothign about blender
[20:04] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:04] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: Im about to start ppc upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[20:05] <adib> puppy_parade: i dont really mind, tough we are probably all switching to 2013 so i might be able to get away with 2012
[20:05] <ThinkT510> Ascavasaion: then logout and select ubuntu on login screen
[20:05] <spiouki> I updated my avast and it fail i got this error now i cant even open the application ubuntu 12.04
[20:05] <spiouki> 12:56:47 PM: Deleted stale lock file '/home/saman/.avast/lockfile-saman'.
[20:05] <spiouki> 12:56:52 PM: An error occured in avast! engine: Invalid argument
[20:05] <Ascavasaion> ThinkT510: Thank you... will do.
[20:05] <average_drifter> MonkeyDust: well yeah.. I know
[20:05] <puppy_parade> adib, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=343
[20:05] <spiouki> I need help
[20:05] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez I'm reading the document now
[20:06] <puppy_parade> 2010 and 2011 are rated garbage, 2012 and 2013 are not on there adib. Might try running it in virtualbox
[20:06] <adib> virtualbox? like a vm?
[20:06] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: My system's Update Manager shows me to upgrade to 12.04...
[20:06] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: will it follow the upgrade path if I chose it ?
[20:06] <puppy_parade> adib yes
[20:07] <spiouki> an error occured in avasst! engine: Invalid argument. what does it mean
[20:07] <adib> k thanks
[20:07] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez: that is where i'm headed.
[20:07] <spiouki> what should i do with avast. I faced the same prob in virtualbox
[20:07] <spiouki> need a guide with that
[20:07] <jstrong> I can't get grub to detect a second ubuntu installation on my second hard drive.
[20:08] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: Can u lead me into upgrading my system from 10.10 to 12.04 ?
[20:08] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez:  I think I would not make the jump, but do each release one at a time.
[20:08] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: nice.
[20:09] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: will start the process...
[20:09] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez:  good luck.
[20:09] <vladimirsanchez> Psi-Jack: My wifi is working now thanks to you and bobweaver:
[20:09] <mralexandro> what was the off topic channe for ubuntu
[20:10] <ThinkT510> mralexandro: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:10] <subz3r0> !ot | mralexandro
[20:10] <mralexandro> <3
[20:11] <bflorat> Hi, I'm the Jajuk project admin that is already in the Ubuntu Software Center. I don't own this app (so I can't submit changes) but I need to upgrade the icon because it has a very low resolution. Does somebody know how to proceed ?
[20:11] <skino> Evening
[20:14] <Linux> I found my problem im trying to burn a dvd with cd burning drive
[20:14] <ThinkT510> Linux: they asked you many times if it was a dvd
[20:14] <adac> guys, external monitors are not recoginzed. When I use xrandr i get: "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default" can someone please help me?
[20:15] <Linux> I remember now that burned the cd with another computer than this one
[20:15] <puppy_parade> figured it out, you can edit the dash with dconf-editor
[20:17] <tiredbones> I'm reading the document on EOL releases. I'm not sure whether to try to bring my current release, 9.10, or just start the process. I don't know whether to trust the updates.
[20:17] <skino> can anyone help me with a good app to install certain games. i read online that Assassins creed and DIablo can be installed but im having issues with Playonlinuzx
[20:17] <ThinkT510> tiredbones: i've always fresh installed, far less can go wrong
[20:18] <silverarrow> does anyone have a working battery indicator on the taskbar?
[20:18] <Linux>  i burned a lot of linux distros to help other ppl with virus crashed windows
[20:18] <subz3r0> silverarrow, yes
[20:19] <avengre> hello, i'm trying to install apache2...  I wanted to do a fresh install from scratch, so i did:  apt-get --purge apache2 and then tried apt-get remove apache2 to ensure it was gone (it was) i deleted the /etc/apache2 folder to wipe all trace... when I do apt-get install apache2 or apt-get install apache2 --reinstall it doesn't recreate the folder...
[20:19] <avengre> despite saying its installed
[20:19] <tiredbones> ThinkT510, Well, I tried a fresh install for 12.04 and got many errors. I can't even get to a live CD.
[20:20] <sternfan2012> Linux - I had a feeling it was something like that...
[20:20] <subz3r0> !md5 | tiredbones
[20:20] <silverarrow> subz3r0, would it be the same for lubuntu as for ubuntu?
[20:20] <ThinkT510> tiredbones: odd, does it boot?
[20:20] <teddyp1cker> hi all
[20:21] <subz3r0> silverarrow, i dont know. im using unity or gnome shell. both show me the battery indicator
[20:21] <silverarrow> subz3r0, I have just bought a new battery for an old laptop, it works fine, just not the indicator
[20:21] <tiredbones> ThinkT510, NO -  I'll try try md5 thing
[20:22] <teddyp1cker> Does nouveau driver compatible with nvidia geforce gt240?
[20:22] <silverarrow> subz3r0, it is desktop environment which handles battery icon? I have lxde
[20:22] <zorgborg> silverarrow: using lubuntu 12.04 and batter indicator works fine
[20:23] <kieppie1> hi guys
[20:23] <silverarrow> zorgborg, I have lubuntu 12.04, must be a lxde thing ?
[20:23] <internetN00b> is it possible to set Ubuntu server to notify me when a user log in using ssh?
[20:23] <silverarrow> zorgborg,  and subz3r0 thanks anyway
[20:23] <kieppie1> how can I do a high quality convert of VOB files to other media - avi, mpeg, etc?
[20:25] <Newtoubuntu> fixed mount issue earlier. some how windows saved my session after shutdown, therefore it was in use.
[20:25] <zorgborg> anyone know if it's feasible (not too difficult) to remove librebase + calc without removing the whole package (this is more for general principle rather than desire to actually do it)?
[20:26] <Newtoubuntu> i have been adding new unity lenses now. This is a fantastic tool.
[20:27] <hilikus> is there any way to see my stored wifi password? i don't see any entries in the keyring
[20:28] <internetN00b> can some one recommend me an app to store passwords?
[20:28] <_LCN_> is there a way i can manually change the resolution of the login page... can't see it throught my receiver nor on the tv unless they are defined to the standard resolution settings like 420p 720p 1080p
[20:29] <wan26> hilikus, you can go to edit connections and pick wifi then click show password
[20:29] <wan26> internetN00b, I'm going to try lastpass for that
[20:29] <internetN00b> wan26, isn't that a webservice?
[20:30] <Newtoubuntu> hilikus, figaros password manager 2... right in the software center
[20:31] <Newtoubuntu> whoops i meant internetnoob
[20:32] <wan26> yeah, i thought of maybe using it just to store passwords though, say if i move machines or need it at work
[20:33] <tiredbones> subz3r0, my download release 10.04 has a good md5 code.
[20:35] <bnwkeys> Hi Guys, new dilemma, hoping someone can point me in the right direction.  I had first partitioned my HDD and installed ubuntu, leaving a part for XP.  Then I installed XP, but it had to inactivate  my logical partitions to do the install.  Now it won't let me reactivate the logical partitions cuz they aren't primary.  Anybody have a way to reestablish dualboot so i can recover my ubuntu OS?
[20:36] <subz3r0> bnwkeys, i dont know who gave you the advice to install unbuntu first... but the better way would be to first install windows and then ubuntu
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> hilikus: look in ~/.gconf/system/networking/connections/
[20:37] <bnwkeys> subz3r0: nobody gave me that advice, I wanted ubuntu first cuz I'm making it a dev platform. I'm still a noob, but anyways, am I screwed? I don't really want to reinstall both OS's again, but will if I have to. :(
[20:38] <gordonjcp> bnwkeys: you can probably get away with just reinstalling the boot loader
[20:38] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: did u get a 'Unable to find expected entry 'partner/binary-powerpc/Packages' error ???
[20:38] <vladimirsanchez> tiredbones: during upgrade?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> bnwkeys: you can boot to liveCD and reinstate grub there. It is WAAAY easier to install junky windows first then install ubuntu
[20:38] <subz3r0> bnwkeys, you could try to use gparted. but it depends on how many primary partitions etc... you have. just give it a try
[20:39] <tiredbones> vladimirsanchez:  I haven't started yet, still reading
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> bnwkeys: leave unpartitioned space when you install windows instead of the default 100% space use
[20:39] <vladimirsanchez> np
[20:39] <bnwkeys> cool, lots of recommendations, I'll try gparted first, then try using my ubuntu install disk again, definately my mistake for instaling ubuntu first
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> bnwkeys: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[20:40] <gordonjcp> bnwkeys: if your hardware supports virtualisation, run Windows in a VM ;-)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> bnwkeys: you've done it the hard way around basicaly
[20:40]  * bnwkeys kicking self
[20:40] <hilikus> thanks wan26
[20:46] <emph> Problem: When I played a movie, it slowed down or downright freezed most of the time. I used the "Additional drivers" application to download a binary blob driver (Propriety graphics driver FGLRX ATI/AMD, the secondary option because the first one didn't work) and now the movie reproduction is smoother but it still slows down occasionally or even freezes momentarily, and it's very annoying. Note1: This is not a hardware problem, I was able to p
[20:46] <emph> lay everything under Windows. Note2: This is not a matter of which player I'm using, I've tried 4 now and all of them have the same issue.
[20:48] <emph> Note3: The audio never gets cut, it's only the video.
[20:50] <mereguillen> holaaaa
[20:51] <emph> Note4: I watched a show's episode on an online video player and it worked just fine.
[20:52] <dr_willis> could be the video res/codec is to much for the machine.
[20:53] <Guest65161> Damn it, my nickname didn't go through -_-
[20:53] <Guest65161> of all the faggotry
[20:54] <ammw> anyone here
[20:54] <dr_willis> lots-o-people-here.
[20:54] <ammw> can someone give me advice on installing ubuntu
[20:54] <dr_willis> give us details of the issue..
[20:55] <ammw> ok well first i want to dual boot ubuntu 10.10 and windows 7 i have 2 sepearte hard drives 1 500gb and 1 250gb the 500gb haswindows 7 on it the 250 i want ubuntu on it
[20:55] <emph> dr_willis: I was able to play every single thing, included this particular movie, running Windows
[20:55] <[twisti]> ever since upgrading from LTS 10 to LTS 12 precise, i get these error messages on login. reboot doesnt fix them. can someone help me figure out what to do about it/what it means ? *** /dev/md2 will be checked for errors at next reboot *** *** /dev/md1 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***
[20:56] <ammw> what i would like is a optionwhen computer starts up to select os to use but i want my boot mgr to stay default oem
[20:56] <dr_willis> ati spends more time and $$ optmizeing their drivers for windows. What are your system specs emph ?
[20:56] <dr_willis> ammw:  use 2 hard drives. or use a usb flash to keep grub on for booting the linux side.
[20:56] <bekks> ammw: Thats not possible. Either you'll have a OEM mbr, OR you have the option to choose.
[20:56] <dr_willis> theres dozens of ways to restore the windows MBR if you ever want to.
[20:57] <ammw> can i just use what i have now?
[20:57] <aLeSD_> hi all
[20:57] <dr_willis> you would need some windows tools to boot the linux install. I dont do it that way.
[20:57] <aLeSD_> I have an atom dualcore and ubuntu go slow
[20:57] <dr_willis> and thus you wouldnot be using the OEM Mbr.
[20:57] <aLeSD_> is compiz ?
[20:57] <ammw> reason why is back year ago i tried dual booting but on 1 disk windows 7 and ubuntu when i deleated ubuntu tho it deleated my boot manager and comp was garbage
[20:57] <dr_willis> atom is dual core?
[20:57] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: after a certain number of mounts, the filesystems are fscked whether they need it or not
[20:57] <aLeSD_> dr_willis: my atom yes
[20:58] <emph> dr_willis: I don't know the details right now, but it doesn't really matter, it's not a hardware problem
[20:58] <dr_willis> ammw:  comp needed  to have the 3windows mbr reinstalled...
[20:58] <[twisti]> gordonjcp: i would happily accept that, if they were
[20:58] <[twisti]> but like i said, they arent
[20:58] <aLeSD_> dr_willis: dualcore with hyperthreading
[20:58] <[twisti]> i rebooted over ten times, still getting the message
[20:58] <gordonjcp> [twisti]: tried fscking manually?
[20:58] <emph> dr_willis: Do you know of an open-source equivalent driver I could use?
[20:58] <aLeSD_> Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N550
[20:58] <wan26> How many processors can ubuntu take
[20:58] <fommil> hi all - can somebody please recommend a command line tool to a) extract page ranges from a PDF file AND b) split a PDF which has been printed "two on a page" back into single sheet pages ?
[20:58] <[twisti]> gordonjcp: dont really know what that is or how i would do that
[20:58] <ammw> so should i just install ubuntu then and let it decide what to use or?
[20:58] <dr_willis> emph:  theres only the ATI drivers in the repos, and the fglrx drivers..
[20:58] <aLeSD_> I think the prob is compiz ..... suggestons ?
[20:58] <gordonjcp> !fsck
[20:59] <dr_willis> aLeSD_:  use lubuntu, or unity-2d.  But my 2 netbooks seem to handle Unity 3d with compiz fine.
[20:59] <aLeSD_> dr_willis, I use external moinitor with fullHD
[20:59] <[twisti]> im a bit scared to try those commands, since its a headless server on the other side of the world
[20:59] <trix`G> Hi guys
[21:00] <aLeSD_> ah
[21:00] <aLeSD_> the problem is in moving windows
[21:00] <mega1> should i upgrade from 10.04 to 12
[21:00] <trix`G> I have an Alienware m17x-r2 laptop, and my radeon video card keeps overheating and causing the laptop to shut off.
[21:00] <aLeSD_> no no downgrade to 5.04
[21:00] <trix`G> I've been watching the fans while this happens and it's clear that they aren't going full speed even when the laptop dies
[21:01] <trix`G> so, I'm wondering if anyone can help me getting fancontrol working so I can speed up the fans?
[21:01] <dr_willis> aLeSD_:  and your CPU is a Atom? My netbooks had laggy playback in windows and linux with FULL 1080P hd video.  i always reencoded them down to a less cpu intensive size/codec and they would play fine.
[21:01] <dr_willis> mega1:  if you need the features.
[21:01] <samuel_> Hi. Can anybody help me please?
[21:01] <hfic> ok so I'm starting to make headway I think into my smb issues. I'm able to access shares now .. kinda. I keep getting 'unable to mount location , failed to mount windows share'
[21:02] <[twisti]> mega1: for what its worth, ever since i did that, everyone is complaining that my server is laggy
[21:02] <trix`G> I have tried following instructions google brought me to set up fancontrol package and pwmconfig and such, but it fails at the pwmconfig step with "there are no pwm devices found" even though the sensors-detect program found and installed the coretemp module
[21:02] <aLeSD_> dr_willis: never tryed fullHDF content .. I use the FullHD monitor as desktop
[21:02] <mega1> will it cause problems
[21:02] <wan26> trix`G, dumb question but is acpi on?
[21:03] <dr_willis> aLeSD_:  the type of monitor wouldent matter.. the video codec could.
[21:03] <samuel_> can someone help me please?
[21:03] <trix`G> wan26: Is that a kernel module?  "lsmod | grep acpi" did not show a result
[21:03] <dr_willis> samuel_:  have you even asked a question?
[21:04] <gordonjcp> !help | samuel_
[21:04] <aLeSD_> I use 3.5.1 kernel
[21:04] <samuel_> ok sorry
[21:04] <guntbert> fommil: look at pdfsam and pdfshuffler
[21:05] <guntbert> !info pdfsam > fommil
[21:05] <guntbert> !info pdfshuffler > fommil
[21:05] <samuel_> Flash doesn't work and I don't know what I have to do.
[21:05] <Cowz> do you mean flash in your browser doesn't work?
[21:05] <fommil> guntbert: thanks. I also think this helps http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12482/split-pages-in-pdf PDFJAM and PDFTK
[21:06] <dr_willis> ive given up on flash and just use the various flash-replacer extensions and flash downloader addons for my browsers. :)
[21:06] <samuel_> yes
[21:06] <Cowz> have you downloaded the most recent version?
[21:06] <dr_willis> samuel_:  and how did you install flash?
[21:06] <dr_willis> samuel_:  and what happens on youtube.com when you try to watch a video?
[21:07] <Cowz> I suggest you get a Firefox addon called flash-aid
[21:07] <Cowz> get it, run it, and it will do the rest for you
[21:07] <samuel_> I get a white screen
[21:07] <wan26> trix`G, maybe have a look at acpitool, to change the fan back to auto
[21:07] <Cowz> 0_o
[21:07] <samuel_> where can I download flash-aid?
[21:08] <trix`G> wan26: I don't really want auto, that has problems.  I want to manually set the fan speeds to run at full 100% all of the time
[21:08] <manas_b> on the internet
[21:08] <Cowz> open mozilla, go to tools>add-ons, then search for flash-aid
[21:09] <Cowz> I need help recoloring stuff on x chat =/
[21:10] <IdleOne> Cowz: you can try #xchat
[21:10] <brontosaurusrex> Cowz, color scheme? i think i just found the absolute perfection
[21:10] <Cowz> I'm not sure. I literally just DL'd this, so I guess it would be default
[21:11] <samuel_> I can't find it.
[21:11] <MonkeyDust>  /quit brb
[21:11] <samuel_> I only see flashpause 0.1
[21:12] <Cowz> Strange, samuel. you could try searching the keywords Linux and Flash
[21:12] <Cowz> That's how I cam across it for the first time
[21:12] <dr_willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/flash-aid-firefox-add-on.html
[21:12] <dr_willis> good luck if it works...
[21:13] <dr_willis> This add-on has been removed by its author. ......
[21:13] <dr_willis> Its Dead Jim.
[21:14] <dell> hi All - I have problem with dell latitude e6400 atg - my touchscreen not work in ubuntu - not can find corrected questions
[21:14] <bekks> dr_willis: Let it go. :P
[21:14] <samuel_> yes it's dead
[21:14] <Cowz> sad =(
[21:15] <dr_willis> guess if you really want it  a little googling found --> https://github.com/webgapps/flashaid/downloads
[21:16] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, what would be a perfect video page for a linuxer?
[21:16] <dr_willis> brontosaurusrex:  huh?
[21:16] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, a download file link, or something else?
[21:17] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, perfect youtube
[21:17] <dr_willis> Not sure what you are asking....
[21:17] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, flash = problem, what would be a replacement?
[21:17] <brontosaurusrex> for video
[21:18] <dr_willis> brontosaurusrex:  html5/webm  youtube is allready doing it for many of their videos.
[21:18] <bekks> brontosaurusrex: Everything the author of a page offers you as alternative.
[21:18] <dr_willis> theres always been alternatives to flash..
[21:18] <dr_willis> Theres even java based players
[21:18] <brontosaurusrex> dr_willis, bekks ok, so "wget http://linktofile.mp4" is cool?
[21:18] <bekks> brontosaurusrex: You are mixing up things hopelessly.
[21:19] <brontosaurusrex> bekks, what do you mean?
[21:19] <bekks> wget has nothing to do with watching a video. wget is a download tool.
[21:19] <dr_willis> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4856913/flash-video-alternative
[21:19] <bekks> and mp4 has nothing to do with flash, nor it is a replacement for interactive contents, because mp4 is video only.
[21:19] <brontosaurusrex> bekks, ok, then : mplayer file.mp4 or webm
[21:20] <StinkyTaco> rather than pay someone for usenet access cant I just run my own usenet server? or does that cost money too? TIA :)
[21:20] <dr_willis> flash i thinkis so problematic because it got pushed into the 'video player' role.
[21:20] <dr_willis> StinkyTaco:  you can run whatever servers you want..
[21:21] <dr_willis> but usenet is a network of servers..   you can run your own newsgroup server if you wanted.
[21:21] <dr_willis> been years since i last used usenet. ;)
[21:21] <emph_> I've downloaded a linux ATI driver from the official website, how do I run it? (.run format)
[21:21] <StinkyTaco> will I be able to connect to other usenet servers too?
[21:21] <mindstorm> chmod +x and ./run
[21:21] <dr_willis> emph_:  stop the X server,  make the file executable. run it as root   'sudo ./whatever.run' good luck getting it working.
[21:22] <subz3r0> bekks: that is definetely not true. mp4 is just a container. both will work. audio and video
[21:22] <brontosaurusrex> bekks, a player that can switch is obviously a poor solution, since a possibly small webmaster will not have resources to preapare N files
[21:22] <emph_> dr_willis: I have no idea how to do any of that, I'm a Linux newbie
[21:22] <Newtoubuntu> how do i make programs default, using details never works.
[21:22] <samuel_> http://oi50.tinypic.com/vd0382.jpg
[21:22] <brontosaurusrex> nm, thats offtopic
[21:22] <dr_willis> emph_:  i would suggest spending a half hour reading some bash tutorials to get somne shell basics learned.
[21:23] <samuel_> That is what i get.
[21:23] <emph_> dr_willis: I'll do that, but for now I'd like to get this over with, how do I do it to simply run a .run program?
[21:24] <subz3r0> emph_, ./blabla.run
[21:25] <samuel_> That's what I get ---> http://oi50.tinypic.com/vd0382.jpg
[21:25] <mindstorm> make it executable i.e. chmod +x file.run ... then execute it via cli by using "sudo ./file.run"
[21:26] <StinkyTaco> Yeah, my ISP does not have usenet access anymore, I was going to try running a usenet server, so I can download some other emph_ ./.run or sh .run I think, I am new too
[21:26] <subz3r0> emph_, maybe you must make it first executable with: chmod  +x blabla.run
[21:26] <brontosaurusrex> mindstorm, you dont run unknown scripts as sudo
[21:26] <subz3r0> emph_, do not follow his step.... if you dont need sudo, dont use it
[21:26] <Newtoubuntu> i fixed my question. no one knew?!!? wow
[21:27] <subz3r0> like brontosaurusrex said... you wont run unknown scripts as root
[21:27] <trix`G> So does anyone know why pwmconfig would fail to detect pwm-capable sensor modules when the coretemp module activated by sensors-detect is installed active and working just fine?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Newtoubuntu: it happens
[21:28] <pyrrhic> ActionParsnip, hey. :D
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> pyrrhic: hi
[21:28] <mindstorm> my bad, always did since as a driver installation from a known source it was known, maybe im just too trusting
[21:28] <brontosaurusrex> Newtoubuntu, nautilus?
[21:28] <pyrrhic> ActionParsnip, Any experience with wine?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> pyrrhic: very little, wassup
[21:29] <Guest1100101> Hi, my Firefox 15 crashes on some sites with Flash video, but Youtube flash videos work fine (on lucid with flash 11.2 r202) - the fun is Firefox started up with a clean profile does not crash (have tried Flash-aid, flash 11.1, mms.cfg tweaks)
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest1100101: tried closing Firefox then renaming ~/.mozilla/firefox
[21:29] <pyrrhic> ActionParsnip, I tried using playonlinux to install this game. No bueno. Thinking of trying with wine. -- Annoying because a lot of .net framework is for 32-bit
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> pyrrhic: did you check the appdb?
[21:30] <Atlantic777> playonlinux is just set of scripts for setting up wine for some games. It's still wine.
[21:31] <pyrrhic> ActionParsnip, A bit.
[21:31] <asmod4n> hello, anyone knows a place to get help with gdb?
[21:31] <pyrrhic> Atlantic777, Thoughts about VirtualBox?
[21:31] <Guest1100101> ActionParsnip: renaming to what?
[21:31] <Atlantic777> pyrrhic: not good, you don't have hardware 3D acceleration.
[21:31] <StinkyTaco> does the linux version of steam set up the dependancies automatically? I might switch one of my gameing rigs over to Ubuntu
[21:32] <theNextLvl> test
[21:32] <emph_> subz3r0: Thanks, that worked to execute it
[21:32] <subz3r0> emph_, you're welcome
[21:34] <emph_> subz3r0: What do you reckon I should choose in the installation: "Install driver ***** on X.Org **** or later" or "Generate Distribution Specific Driver Package"?
[21:36] <Guest1100101> ActionParsnip: I think it's related to javascript - with NoScript active, the problematic page loads fine without the video, but immediately after I temporally allow scripts, FF crashes
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest1100101: making a fresh profile will isolate plugin issues / profile as the cause of the issues
[21:39] <Guest1100101> ActionParsnip: yeah, I know - last thing to try is to disable all add-ons and enable them one-by-one....
[21:40] <compi> How can I determine why I am unable to connect to SBS2003 VPN using ubuntu 12.04 vpn function?
[21:41] <cheese1756> compi, Can you ping the VPN server?
[21:41] <cheese1756> Does that work?
[21:42] <asmod4n> hello, is there a way for gdb to search for specific threads and frames?
[21:45] <cloudgeek> I run ./phenny in my bash,Also edited default.py,with my nickname , all other done , but after connected to irc.ubuntu.com , nothig is happeing , i tried 3-4 time can anybody help me
[21:48] <ebs512> can someone please assist me in my unmet dependencies error?
[21:49] <trix`G> So is anyone familiar with setting fan speed controls manually on a laptop?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> ebs512: run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[21:49] <trix`G> I have an Alienware m17x-r2 and everything I can find on google to control fan speed manually says to use the hwinfo tool, and all the webpages that mention it show the windows version of the tool
[21:50] <trix`G> I have the hwinfo tool installed from aptitude but its text mode and all it does is list hw info, there's no gui and I can't find a way to control fan speeds with it
[21:50] <ebs512> !paste
[21:50] <trix`G> even the man page for hwinfo does not mention a way to set fan speeds
[21:51] <ebs512> I'm having this issue ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184494/
[21:52] <StinkyTaco> wow, anao did not save my file :( is there a way to tell if Ubuntu is selling scripts for crack? :p
[21:52] <zykotick9> trix`G: FYI don't use aptitude with 12.04 (see "/msg ubottu aptitude" for confirmation)
[21:53] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[21:53] <trix`G> zykotick9: I use apt-get carefully, and haven't run into issues with it.
[21:54] <zykotick9> trix`G: apt-get != aptitude
[21:54] <trix`G> ah
[21:54] <trix`G> well I use apt-get
[21:54] <zykotick9> trix`G: all good then ;)
[21:54] <ebs512> says I have held broken packages, I had upgraded to gnome shell 3.5 come to find out it isnt working so I am trying to downgrade to 3.4
[21:55] <trix`G> OerHeks: Yes I tried using lm-sensors, I followed that guide, but pwmconfig fails with "cannot detect pwm-capable sensors modules installed"
[21:55] <TJ-> Has anyone heard of a way (on Precise) to control the order of dependent entries in fstab being handled by mountall ?
[21:55] <zykotick9> ebs512: fyi apt doesn't support downgrading...
[21:55] <ebs512> how to fix the broken packages though?
[21:55] <zykotick9> ebs512: start with "sudo apt-get -f install" and see what the issue is...
[21:56] <ebs512> !paste
[21:57] <ebs512> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184502/
[21:57] <TJ-> zykotick9: apt does support downgrading. I use that feature all the time to test-install bug-fix packages I've built locally, and to then return to the main archive versions. You postfix the version number after the package name. e.g <package>=1.2.3-0ubuntu1
[21:58] <TJ-> ebs512: That messages looks OK. As it says "Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them" for the no-longer-needed packages :)
[21:58] <zykotick9> TJ-: apt does not.  are you a regular here?
[21:58] <TJ-> zykotick9: Since 2005!
[21:59] <zykotick9> TJ-: thought i'd seen your nick before.  i'll hold off on /ignore...
[21:59] <ebs512> oh nice thank you very much
[22:00] <Daghdha> Hi, ic an't find in settings wher ei can icnrease the number of workspaces. Hwre is it hidden?
[22:00] <TJ-> zykes-: bug #107221
[22:00] <ebs512> used the command to remove now the other command to install gnome shell works, thanks guys
[22:02] <Kircle> I have a theme that worked for a previous version of gnome but doesn't with the current gnome. How do I update someone else's theme to the current release of gnome?
[22:04] <zykotick9> TJ-: tab fail.  fyi, post #1 - configure files, not downgraded is correct...
[22:05] <Daghdha> is myUnity a good program?
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> Daghdha  if it's useful, then it's good
[22:06] <TJ-> zykotick9: You should be aware that comment #2 is from Michael Vogt, who is *the* apt developer of 10 years+ (see e.g. http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/01/21/people-behind-debian-michael-vogt-synaptic-apt-developer/)
[22:06] <Daghdha> i wi ll install it MonkeyDust'
[22:06] <Daghdha> seems to have positive feedback mainly
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> kirin`: you will need a GTK3 version of it
[22:07] <gregoryfenton> wish me luck, I am about to do-release-upgrade on a server :(
[22:07] <Daghdha> I still think your current workspace icon is sub-par
[22:07] <TJ-> gregoryfenton: good luck. Tell us how it goes - I've got to do that on several remote servers later this week :p
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> gregoryfenton  be sure to backup first
[22:07] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: +1
[22:08] <gregoryfenton> MonkeyDust, +2
[22:09] <gregoryfenton> don't panic if I disappear, I route my irc through my server :P
[22:09] <Daghdha> it's uiseless in 2d
[22:09] <Daghdha> And won't allow me to change workspaces, wich is a bit odd.
[22:09] <Daghdha> What a pity
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: there should be an icon the the bottom left
[22:10] <harryplinkett> hi guys
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> Daghdha  the next release won't have 2d
[22:10] <mannytu> Hi
[22:10] <Daghdha> It betterhave coz i am on VNC
[22:10] <dr_willis> theres a unity2d tweak tool..   but i never use 2d...
[22:10] <harryplinkett> where does ubuntu/gnome store its default skel settings?  i need to change the default folder names from upper case to lower case
[22:10] <dr_willis> Daghdha:  nope.. unity2d is gone.
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: its not going to, if the video hardware isn't up to 3D, it will use the CPU
[22:10] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: Yes the icon is there, But i want more than 4
[22:11] <zykotick9> harryplinkett: default upcase, default what - not usernames
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: you can set it in ccsm, i believe 2d obeys that setting
[22:11] <harryplinkett> zykotick9: folder names.  Downloads, Desktop and others
[22:11] <zykotick9> harryplinkett: /etc/skel/
[22:11] <harryplinkett> its not there
[22:11] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: Pretend i am a moron. ccsp?
[22:11] <harryplinkett> that is for a typical unix system
[22:11] <zykotick9> harryplinkett: those options are in there i don't think...
[22:12] <harryplinkett> gnome stores that somewhere else
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: ccsm    compiz settings manager
[22:12] <zykotick9> harryplinkett: sorry s/are/aren't/
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: what do you do once you connect via vnc anyway?
[22:12] <trism> harryplinkett: /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults
[22:12] <harryplinkett> no biggie, i'm having a hard time googling this one
[22:12] <dr_willis> gconftool-2 --type=int --set /apps/metacity/general/num_workspaces 2
[22:12] <harryplinkett> ah there we go.  thank you
[22:12] <dr_willis>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity
[22:12] <Daghdha> manage workspaces with shells and graphical programs
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: graphical apps like what?
[22:13] <zykotick9> dr_willis: why is # or worspaces a metacity (insead of compiz) setting?  odd.
[22:13] <Daghdha> i realy hate how it works now, too many clicks. And in VNC and 2d it goes so slwo, it's very annoying.
[22:13] <Daghdha> Graphical apps like those where there are no console based equivalents
[22:13] <hfic> If I'm trying to access smb shares from another nix computer. Do I have to mount the smb shares on the other nix system?
[22:13] <harryplinkett> thank you trism, now i know about xdg.
[22:13] <Daghdha> Browser is one.
[22:13] <jeeves_moss> has anyone had any issues with Postfix and Dovecot after a dist upgrade?
[22:13] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  compiz stores stuff using the  same area perhaps?
[22:14] <tyranarg> \join #ubuntu
[22:14] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: from what to what? Lucid to Precise?
[22:14] <jagginess> hfic, nautilus can mount smb
[22:14] <jeeves_moss> TJ-,  yes.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: try a lighter desktop, like LXDE or XFCE
[22:14] <zykotick9> dr_willis: metacity and compiz workspaces have historically been separate.  (i believe)
[22:15] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: I've not seen anything but I think it depends on how many changes you have to the core config files. What symptoms/log errors are you seeing?
[22:15] <jagginess> hfic, "mount" is only done one one side(the client)
[22:15] <Daghdha> I'm affraid that will destroy my install
[22:15] <hfic> jagginess, well I'm getting error 'unable to mount location ; failed to mount windows share' .. this is in nautilus
[22:15] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, give me one sec.  I'll whip up the logs, and configs.  How long are you going to be here?
[22:15] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: i prefer vanilla in case of updates and migrations
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: you can use a web browser via SSH X forwarding
[22:15] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: Eternity :p
[22:15] <Daghdha> No, it's blocked
[22:16] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, lol
[22:16] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, and I need to roll something and make a drink
[22:16] <Troy^> ok i'm trying to use ubuntuone via terminal is there a guide somewhere i can't seem to find it
[22:16] <jagginess> hfic, i was trying to deal with windows shares with someone yesterday.. I tested again last night, there's no issues mounting shares from windows being accessed from linux
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: blocked by whom?
[22:16] <zykotick9> Troy^: if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntuone
[22:17] <Daghdha> I set it to 3x3 with gconf
[22:17] <jagginess> hfic, the text boxes are tricky in nautilus.. it's one or two that can be confusing.
[22:18] <bfortified_> i installed and in the process of config Ubuntu server somewhere i broke something and can not update my repository, I think when i was config /etc/hosts file? i can ping ok to 4.2.2.2 anyone?
[22:18] <Daghdha> hmm it's 3x2 though
[22:18] <TJ-> Troy^: Check the man-page for u1sdtool
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: who is blocking ssh?
[22:18] <jagginess> hfic, but it's doable, provided 1) your credentials are correct and 2) the network firewalls (and other network settings) are allowed this from both Oses
[22:18] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, what configs did you need again?  From what I can tell, ASAL won't launch
[22:19] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: Log files from mail.err or maybe even entries from syslog I'd think would reveal something?
[22:19] <Troy^> thank you TJ- found it
[22:20] <Nightwalkerkg> Hi. When i try to install any linux distro i eather can't boot it,can't install it or i istall it but can't boot it. The pc boots directly to Windows xp. What can cause this. I could install any distro earlyer.
[22:20] <Daghdha> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm it appears it has made a new compiz entry, compiz-1
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> bfortified_: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8." | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf        and you can now run updates
[22:20] <Daghdha> Hope it won't flip out over that later
[22:20] <andrewaclt> Nightwalkerkg, did you just install windows?
[22:20] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: Looking at my server, it looks like mail.{log,info,warn} are the ones to check
[22:20] <Troy^> Nightwalkerkg: is it not installing a bootloader?
[22:21] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/6gipzjTg
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: are you connecting to vnc over www?
[22:21] <ianliu> Does anyone knows if LLDB works on Ubuntu?
[22:21] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: using resolv.conf is only a temporary solution, a reboot will probably set that back to previous settings (due to N-M in 12.04 - resolv.conf is deprecated) :|
[22:21] <Nightwalkerkg> andrewaclt No,i have windows installed for about five months now.
[22:21] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: you added an extra period on the end 8.8.8.8
[22:21] <gordonjcp> ianliu: lldb?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> gah
[22:21] <Daghdha> no ActionParsnip
[22:21] <Daghdha> Over vanc
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: updates may fix things
[22:22] <Daghdha> dont' recall the port
[22:22] <ianliu> gordonjcp: the debugger from CLANG / LLVM
[22:22] <Daghdha> standard port
[22:22] <Troy^> zykotick9: yea you are right.. i had the same problem
[22:22] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: what are the symptoms of the problem you're seeing? There's nothing obvious in that log tail
[22:22] <andrewaclt> Nightwalkerkg, I would start with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:22] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, cant start dovecot.
[22:22] <bfortified_> ActionParsnip, no go still get all errs and Failed to fetch
[22:23] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i'm not refering to the original issue - on that your probably right (i have 0 idea)... i was just mentioning that resolv.conf is no longer a good answer for things... :(
[22:23] <gordonjcp> ianliu: oh, don't see why not
[22:23] <hfic> jagginess, perhaps you have lag on your end.. I've been replying the whole time.
[22:23] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, I can telnet into postfix though
[22:23] <andrewaclt> Nightwalkerkg, did you have a working linux install? Or is it simply not booting from the cd?
[22:23] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: ahh OK. Look at /var/log/dovecot.log
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> bfortified_: did you run the command as given, I borked it a bit :(
[22:23] <bfortified_> i did
[22:23] <bfortified_> paste
[22:24] <Daghdha> Nope; 12.04 and UNity all fine and well. Workspace implementation, abominable.
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> bfortified_: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf        and you can now run updates
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> bfortified_: I revised the command
[22:24] <Nightwalkerkg> andrewaclt No luck. I tryed with tons of stuff to fix the grub. I had ubuntu and mint before,but i formated the whole pc about a year ago and i have been using winows since then. I want to get back to linux now.
[22:24] <jagginess> hfic, there's no lag.. I got zero feedback on anything. Can't help you if you give zero feedback.
[22:24] <hfic> Say I have smb shares that are currently sharing. However, the shares are located in another file that I'm not sharing . I'm getting a 'unable to mount location' error on the client trying to access. Could the reason be because I'm not sharing the main file but the files inside of it instead?
[22:24] <Nightwalkerkg> I have update bios,so i think that might be the problem. The problems started since then.
[22:24] <Troy^> zykotick9: nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head and added nameserver 8.8.8.8 fixed it for me
[22:24] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, there isnt a dovecot.log file
[22:24] <bfortified_> ahh i should have looked closer
[22:24] <jagginess> hfic, try in pm again. You are new to this. You dont need to lie to me about it..
[22:24] <zykotick9> bfortified_: see Troy^'
[22:24] <ulgens> cinnamon - Cinnamon desktop
[22:24] <ulgens> dropbox - Easily share and sync files across computers and mobile devices with free space online.
[22:24] <ulgens> fortunes-husse - Fortunes containing quotes from Husse.
[22:25] <ulgens> gir1.2-muffin-3.0 - GObject introspection data for Muffin
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: I used that too, except i used the pipe to sudo tee :)
[22:25] <FloodBot1> ulgens: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <ulgens> grub2-theme-mint - Grub2 theme for Linux Mint
[22:25] <ulgens> iso-localize - ISO Localizer for Linux Mint
[22:25] <zykotick9> bfortified_: see Troy^'s answer up a couple of lines
[22:25] <Daghdha> Thanks for the help guys. cu
[22:25] <hfic> jagginess, http://pastebin.com/ABjzYPQ9
[22:25] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: Is dovevot configured to start?
[22:25] <Troy^> bfortified_: nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head and added nameserver 8.8.8.8 fixed it for me
[22:25] <hfic> jagginess, I'm far from new on any aspect
[22:25] <jagginess> hfic, you are new.
[22:25] <jagginess> good day..
[22:26]  * jagginess tried to help but gets zero feedback(even the pastebin shows)
[22:26] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, yep.  when I try to manually run "service dovecot restart" I get "dovecot start/running, process 25197", but I can't see the process by the ID it generated.
[22:26] <ulgens> lsb-core - Linux Standard Base 4.0 core support package
[22:26] <ulgens> lsb-cxx - Linux Standard Base 4.0 C++ support package
[22:26] <ulgens> lsb-desktop - Linux Standard Base 4.0 Desktop support package
[22:26] <ulgens> lsb-graphics - Linux Standard Base 4.0 graphics support package
[22:26] <ulgens> lsb-printing - Linux Standard Base 4.0 Printing package
[22:26] <FloodBot1> ulgens: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:26] <zykotick9> Troy^: using google's DNS (although technically good) is a big scary at the same time... </OT>
[22:26] <ulgens> lsb-release - Linux Standard Base version reporting utility
[22:26] <hfic> jagginess, I suggest you check the pastebin again .. I'm reading the entire conversation. Perhaps your the new one?
[22:26] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, and when I run a "service dovecot status", I get "dovecot stop/waiting"
[22:27] <Troy^> zykotick9: yea, i know lol.. i don't really have anything to hide
[22:27] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: OK, so it's failing on startup. It ought to be at least writing entries to its log-file. Let me try it on my end see if I can induce it to fail :p
[22:27] <ljflajflae> apf-server - Server for Active Port Forwarding
[22:27] <ljflajflae> apgdiff - Another PostgreSQL Diff Tool
[22:27] <ljflajflae> apiextractor-doc - documentation for the library headers parser
[22:27] <ljflajflae> aplus-fsf - A+ programming language run-time environment
[22:27] <FloodBot1> ljflajflae: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <ljflajflae> aplus-fsf-dev - A+ programming language development environment
[22:27] <ljflajflae> aplus-fsf-doc - A+ programming language documentation
[22:27] <zykotick9> Troy^: nor i - i certainly don't go for this encryption-garbage ;)
[22:28] <Nightwalkerkg> andrewaclt Can a bios update mess up this ? The update was ok,no errors. But since then i can't install any linux distro.
[22:28] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, just be careful.  I wasn't impressed when I was sitting in the Ft. Laud airport and did the upgrade.  (the box is in Toronto)
[22:28] <bfortified_> Troy^, ActionParsnip trying a reboot but dont think it worked
[22:29] <Troy^> bfortified_: also add nameserver 8.8.8.8 to /etc/network/interfaces
[22:29] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: Whilst I do that, look in "/etc/default/dovecot" . Try removing the comment prefix from "ALLOW_COREDUMPS=1" . That might catch a crash dump in "/var/crash" . Also, look in /var/log/kern.log after you've tried starting the service for any SIGSEGV error reports at the time you started the service
[22:29] <bfortified_> Troy^, will try
[22:29] <Troy^> bfortified_: then /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:29]  * zykotick9 wishes he'd said "encrypted-fs-garbage", cause SSH FTW ;)
[22:29] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, ok, one sec
[22:29] <SvenHH> hi everyone, on my installation of 12.04 the 3d desktop does not work with the nvidia driver 304.43. Can anyone help?
[22:30] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, I can't find that line
[22:30] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: last time my server restarted, it wrote to "/var/log/dovecot.log" this: "2012-07-19 01:08:38 dovecot: Info: Dovecot v1.2.9 starting up (core dumps disabled)"
[22:30] <bfortified_> Troy^, didnt have to "also add nameserver 8.8.8.8 to /etc/network/interfaces" should i anyway?
[22:30] <dr_willis> SvenHH:  you used the additional-drivers tool to install it? or  the .run binary from the nvidia site? what is your exact card/chipset? is this a laptop?
[22:30] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: Hmmm, let me check on another of my servers
[22:30] <zykotick9> !info nvidia-current | SvenHH 304.043 eh?  doesn't seem like that supported version, best of luck.
[22:31] <Troy^> bfortified_: if it worked without adding to /etc/network/interfaces don't worry about it then
[22:31] <bfortified_> Troy^, TY!
[22:31] <Troy^> bfortified_: yea np i had the same problem two days ago on my server build
[22:31] <jagginess> hfic, if you ask on #linux, i'm willing to help. you're not using linux, but you said *nix. "Mounting" means the client is mounting a network share.
[22:31] <SvenHH> i'm using the nvidia-current-updates package on my desktop machine (old one) with a Geforce 6200 card.
[22:32] <TJ-> SvenHH: check the log-files. My desktop us running "Installed: 304.43-0ubuntu0.1" without issue (so far)
[22:32] <bfortified_> Troy^, while i have you for file server Im confused are smb/cifs same thing?
[22:32] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, the line in the kernal log is "init: dovecot main process (25571) terminated with status 89"
[22:32] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: That's great - we have an error code. Now to find out what it means :p
[22:32] <zykotick9> SvenHH: fyi, if it's a legitamate "backport" i'm sorry.
[22:32] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, looking into it
[22:32] <dr_willis> !info nvidia-current
[22:33] <Troy^> bfortified_: if you mean smb as in samba that is what i use.
[22:33] <bfortified_> k
[22:33] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: See for example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1655875
[22:33] <Troy^> bfortified_: samba is very easy to setup
[22:33] <jagginess> bfortified_, pretty much.. cifs is the newer smb protocol, port 445
[22:33] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i don't think !info show backport version :(
[22:33] <jagginess> bfortified_, pre-cifs is something in 137/139 somewhere around there
[22:34] <jagginess> Troy^, btw smb is not samba..
[22:34] <dr_willis> 304.43  is on 12.10 ;) which is what im on...
[22:34] <jagginess> Troy^, smb means server message block
[22:34] <TJ-> nvidia 304.xx is in precise-proposed currently
[22:34] <bfortified_> Troy^, jagginess  thanks! now my repos are working going to muck with samba
[22:34] <zykotick9> dr_willis: !info only shows 295.40...
[22:34] <Troy^> jagginess: yea i'm fairly new to the whole server side of things just experimenting atm with a ubuntu server
[22:34] <dr_willis> good to see some newer versions comming down the pipes..
[22:35] <hfic> jagginess, I'm using 3 different version of nix in my setup. My mounting question was a simple yes or no question. It was a 2 part question, being the 'accessing under the not shared folder'
[22:35] <zykotick9> dr_willis: +1 discussion in #ubuntu+1 ;)  joking.
[22:35] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/CXv3Lju5
[22:36] <SvenHH> dr_willis: sorry I'm not used to this but do you suggest to use nvidia-current instead?
[22:36] <TJ-> dr_willis: Indeed, and I've been impressed by 304. It finally has proper xrandr support so that gnome-control-center display applet can function, and it auto starts multiple monitors in side-by-side twinview on log-in if it detects them, rather than needing to have saved the layout to xorg.conf
[22:36] <dr_willis> SvenHH:  try it and see i guess..  this isent a laptop with one of those dual-video card optimus setups is  it?
[22:36] <jagginess> Troy^, samba provides setting up an smb server.. (samba runs two daemons, smbd and nmbd)
[22:37] <jagginess> Troy^, (note the smbd named daemon, it provides service for the "smb" protocol)
[22:37] <Troy^> jagginess: yes right
[22:37] <ebs512> there is an issue with themes not showing up in Ubuntu Tweak or Gnome-Tweak?
[22:37] <Troy^> jagginess: and nmbd was for printer share? right
[22:38] <jagginess> Troy^, if you want to access a share, you can mount it with nautilus or konqueror (using smb:// or some other menu option with these apps)
[22:38] <btcbuy314> im using ubuntu server and trying to get automounting to work, what is a good program for that?
[22:38] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: check "man dovecot". You can do a config check with "dovecot -a"
[22:38] <Troy^> jagginess: yea i use mine for streaming media to my xbmc htpc
[22:38] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/W65Xeqzg
[22:39] <thekkid> Hello
[22:39] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, looks like a cert issue
[22:39] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: Yes it does "Fatal: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf: ssl enabled, but ssl_cert not set"
[22:39] <jagginess> Troy^, newcomers (not saying explicitly you), don't know what a "share" is, technically is a jargon word, referring to the access nodes on the server
[22:39] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: Are you good to go now? You can sort that I'm guessing?
[22:39] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, oh joy.  time to figure THAT out.  I wonder why Postfix is working.
[22:40] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, I'm going to have a look
[22:40] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: well it does say at the top of that output: "Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:44: protocol { ssl_listen } has been replaced by service { inet_listener { address } }"
[22:40] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, and we're back to trying to figure it out.  LOL
[22:41] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: Postfix is separate to Dovecot, one wouldn't affect the other. Postfix is the MTA, Dovecot is an IMAP/POP/etc server for mailboxes
[22:41] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, I think it's setup to use Dovecot's auth (it's a v-hosted server)
[22:41] <jagginess> dovecot is good stuff, it's quite flexible too
[22:41] <Troy^> anyone here familiar with u1sdtools i'm trying to use my ubuntuone access via headless (term) on my ubuntu server
[22:42] <TJ-> jeeves_moss: but that auth would only be for your SMTP relaying, not SMTP delivery. If postfix is doing SMTP relay still then you've got a mis-config there which isn't failing on failed auth
[22:42] <grandmaster> how do i update xampp?
[22:42] <avengre> Can you install a squid-proxy server while running apache?
[22:43] <avengre> ie, have them work in the same environment (but not through each other or anything)
[22:43] <jeeves_moss> TJ-, ok, thanks.
[22:43] <jagginess> Troy^, (for that nmbd, it's a nameserver for Netbios names, one can even not have to start it if he doesnt want to-- you can access shares by ip or even by your machines's dns hostname, if you have a local dns server)
[22:43] <TJ-> Troy^: would this help? http://linuxprograms.wordpress.com/2010/11/01/u1sdtool-ubuntu-one-command-line-tutorial/
[22:44] <Troy^> TJ-: thing is u1sdtool spits back some jargon about a display and X which is not obviously installed on server
[22:44] <TJ-> Troy^: Ahhh... maybe it is dependent on X?!
[22:44] <Troy^> TJ-: exactly which defeats the purpose
[22:44] <Troy^> :S
[22:45] <TJ-> Troy^: looking at the package it doesn't declare an obvious depends
[22:45] <ukm1242> hi
[22:46] <thedarkgerbil> Greetings and salutations
[22:46] <Troy^> TJ- one sec i'll put the error
[22:46] <TJ-> Troy^: Could it be because the tool is causing the sync-daemon to try to get you to enter a passphrase? and for some reason that requires an X server because there's no console-based fallback?
[22:46] <Troy^> TJ-: or too anyone else that knows anything about u1sdtool http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184566/
[22:47] <Brasco> how come Im seeing 8 cores in top/cpuinfo when my server should only have 4 ?? is there some kind of double core thingy going on ??
[22:47] <ratcheer> Brasco: hyperthreading
[22:47] <jagginess> jeeves_moss, yeah, that ssl stuff is tricky..
[22:47] <TJ-> Brasco: The CPU probably does hyperthreading
[22:47] <Brasco> that doubles the number of cores ??
[22:48] <Troy^> TJ-: possibly and you are right to some degree i was actually following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Headless I was on step 6 as you can see
[22:48] <jagginess> jeeves_moss, you'll need to make key-pairs if you need to. You'll need to setup your own dns server if you decide to use ssl. (even if it's on a lan or same server machine)
[22:48] <matts45acp> anyone here willing to help me with my ubuntu server
[22:48] <Troy^> matts45acp: just ask
[22:48] <TJ-> Troy^: thanks for the link. I'll try to reproduce here on a headless server
[22:49] <Brasco> ah reading wikipedia…cheers
[22:49] <Troy^> TJ-: right, let me know if you get any success would be neat for when doing server backups to save my backups to ubuntuone
[22:49] <gregoryfenton> hmm, apart from znc my server seems to have quite happily do-dist-upgrade'd :) I will need to play with it to make sure but so far all is looking well :D
[22:49] <matts45acp> troy, well the other day i attempted to get some file sharing going on with some help but did not suceed
[22:50] <Troy^> matts45acp: what kind of file sharing?
[22:50] <matts45acp> troy, what i want to do is use my server computer to store files on and acess stuff from there
[22:50] <TJ-> Troy^: Obvious question, having read that tutorial. You are launching it using "~/bin/u1sdtool" not "u1sdtool" are you?
[22:50] <Troy^> tried both TJ-
[22:50] <matts45acp> troy, from another computer here in my house
[22:50] <zenmaster> So I was wondering.
[22:51] <zenmaster> What if using all of my old hardware, created a giant cloud.
[22:51] <y0om4> hi
[22:51] <zenmaster> For instance, I have lots of old VIA C3 800mhz machines 2gb memory.
[22:51] <TJ-> Troy^: OK ... was the obvious hiccup if you've added that but not logged out/in to get the new PATH
[22:51] <zenmaster> Could that offer me more performance with those than one new dual quad core server/
[22:51] <zenmaster> ?
[22:52] <zenmaster> I am just curious. :) If anyone would know if performance would scale out. Or would only go so far.
[22:52] <TJ-> zenmaster: If you were running a distributed build farm for software builds, it would, if you used distcc. For most other things, probably not
[22:52] <Troy^> TJ-: yea i even just tried logging in and out same error is produced
[22:52] <ratcheer> zenmaster: I doubt it.
[22:52] <zenmaster> TJ-: What about for DB?
[22:52] <TJ-> Troy^: doing it here now... give me a few minutes
[22:53] <zenmaster> Having shared 32GB memory over network?
[22:53] <zenmaster> I am just trying to think of a use for these machines before they get recycled, and a new project to work on. :)
[22:53] <TJ-> zenmaster: databases? Well offloading say database hosting and/or local web-serving is also useful.
[22:53] <Troy^> matts45acp: i would suggest samba especially if they are other windows computers check this guide out very detailed step by step and any further questions feel free to ask https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[22:54] <zenmaster> TJ-: What about importing data?
[22:54] <jagginess> zenmaster, sharing memory over the network? ?
[22:54] <Troy^> matts45acp: also if you don't know there is a auto nickname completion feature in most irc clients so if i type matts and hit tab. It auto completes your name as matts45acp and you get highlighting knowing your name has been mentioned in irc.
[22:54] <TJ-> zenmaster: importing into what from where? Anything that can run from a terminal can be run on headless systems usefully.
[22:55] <jagginess> zenmaster, you mean 32 gigs of disk storage.. You never share memory over the network..
[22:55] <zenmaster> TJ-:  Here is a little application I am designing, well it is done rather. What if I took 30 2.0ghz machines 2GB memory, threw them in cloud, ran DB across all of them. Web based application pulles querys.
[22:55] <zenmaster> jagginess: Right.
[22:55] <zenmaster> jagginess: Defeat the purpose of the speed of memory. :)
[22:55] <matts45acp> Troy^: like this
[22:55] <jagginess> zenmaster, disk storage is actually a type of "memory". But it's not called memory..
[22:55] <zenmaster> jagginess: Right.
[22:56] <Troy^> matts45acp: yup
[22:56] <zenmaster> So ok let me reprhase my topic here. :)
[22:56] <matts45acp> Troy^: whats that link again
[22:56] <zenmaster> I have a Dell PowerEdge 2800 2x 3.0ghz Xeon NON-HT 16gb memory 5 SCSI 10k Raid Five running 120GB database.
[22:56] <Troy^> matts45acp: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[22:57] <zenmaster> Could I get better performance loading and off loading data by building a cloud of numerous machines with inferior hardware?
[22:57] <matts45acp> Troy^: and how do i just click the link in irc and make my browser come up, im using irssi
[22:57] <Troy^> zenmaster: wish i was just as lucky
[22:57] <zenmaster> Troy^: ?
[22:57] <dr_willis> matts45acp:  gnome-terminal and some other ones can do that for you.
[22:57] <Troy^> matts45acp: not exactly sure i use Smuxi. try right clicking it or hitting shift or ctrl + clicking
[22:57] <jagginess> zenmaster, not really, because you'll need to invest in quality hardware for making the nodes..
[22:57] <Troy^> zenmaster: having a poweredge server
[22:58] <PeterGriffin> Guys I fucked up badly. do-release-upgrade decided to bug.
[22:58] <matts45acp> Troy^: cool it was control
[22:58] <zenmaster> Troy^: Getting some newer ones hopefully this week. Yet my boss will not upgrade my workstation.... ;P p4 NON HT 2GB DD42.
[22:58] <zenmaster> jagginess: Even if I throw hundreds of computers at it?
[22:58] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: no swearing please and what exactly happened?
[22:59] <Troy^> ouch lol zenmaster my server is a p4 2.6ghz HT 1.75GB DDR400 lol
[22:59] <zenmaster> jagginess: So what you are saying, is that the performance increased would only happen if the nodes were the same as the server or better?
[22:59] <jagginess> zenmaster, you need bandwidth for attaching the machines, you'll gain less if accessing them is slow
[22:59] <zenmaster> jagginess: 30 machiens in my office 100mbit network?
[22:59] <jagginess> zenmaster, there's guides out there (vendors make them)
[22:59] <zenmaster> jagginess: I'm not doubting you. :) Just curious. Right now, my relational databasde performs awesome.
[22:59] <jagginess> zenmaster, i'm not an expert in this, but there are teams that use beowulf, and explain the details, they use nodal hardware to make use of it
[23:00] <zenmaster> jagginess: Just trying to find a use for these machiens before they get donated or recycled. :)
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> zenmaster: download server, proxy, dns, backup server
[23:00] <zenmaster> Troy^: Yeah my server is pretty nice for being 8 years old. But my workstation rig sucks.
[23:00] <zenmaster> ActionParsnip: ?
[23:00] <zenmaster> ActionParsnip: Why?
[23:01] <min0z> Hi!
[23:01] <PeterGriffin> well as it was working and asking me should it change this conf file or that, suddenly when i choose any option it just stops working and shows the command line
[23:01] <Troy^> zenmaster: yea i want one of those poweredge servers for my house lol
[23:01] <TJ-> Troy^: Testing it now. Just finished installing
[23:01] <zenmaster> ActionParsnip: I don't see the relationship to the current topic between Troy^ jagginess and I.
[23:01] <zenmaster> Troy^: They are very loud upon startup.
[23:01] <zenmaster> Troy^: I mean pretty damn loud.
[23:01] <Troy^> my current one is kept in my garage
[23:01] <zenmaster> Troy^: I mean like at least six vacuums going off for about 15 seconds.
[23:01]  * jagginess thinks zenmaster is trolling
[23:01] <TJ-> Troy^: It works fine for me; no problems
[23:01] <zenmaster> jagginess: No. :)
[23:02] <Troy^> wtf TJ- lol
[23:02] <PeterGriffin> and the only thing i was able to di was ctrl+c and afret a few times instalation just stopped
[23:02] <zenmaster> jagginess: I did drink like five cups of coffee today. :) Currently everything is running great at my job, so I have lots of spare time. :)
[23:02] <zenmaster> Thank you all for your support.
[23:02] <jagginess> zenmaster, you want to help us? donate your machines or setup a ubuntu mirror, and we'll applause you for it :)
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> zenmaster: if you have old systems you can put them to use in those roles
[23:02] <TJ-> Troy^: I am pretty sure you haven't made the ~/bin/u1sdtool executable, or are otherwise not running that wrapper, but are instead running the standard tool
[23:03] <zenmaster> ActionParsnip: Now I get what you are saying. Way ahead of you brother. Those jobs are already taken. :)
[23:03] <zenmaster> ActionParsnip: I was interested in cloud because I have never set that up before.
[23:03] <jagginess> zentroll
[23:03] <h22turbo> i would setup a ubuntu mirror, but i dont think my 10/1 mbit cable line would like it
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> zenmaster: hehe
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> h22turbo: sure
[23:04] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: open a terminal and run sudo apt-get -f install
[23:04] <zenmaster> I have 2x 50x50mbmit Verizon Fios Biz going into PFsense Load Balancing with Failover. :)
[23:04] <profediego> chat in spanish
[23:04] <zenmaster> I can be a mirror. :)
[23:04] <jagginess> !es
[23:04] <zenmaster> Donde esta el banyo. :P
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> h22turbo: makes minimal installs really fast :)
[23:04] <zenmaster> este.
[23:04] <IdleOne> !behelpful | zenmaster
[23:04] <Troy^> it is working now TJ-
[23:04] <TJ-> Troy^: See for example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184596/
[23:04] <TJ-> Troy^: OK... what did you _not_ do? :p
[23:05] <grandmaster> can any one help me install xampp?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !lamp
[23:06] <Troy^> well it worked when i ran ./u1sdtool --start in the ~/bin
[23:06] <PeterGriffin> done, suggested some no longer required files and autoremove
[23:06] <PeterGriffin> shoud i do it?
[23:06] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: you can ignore the autoremove for now
[23:06] <Troy^> yea i have to be in ~/bin and run ./u1sdtool
[23:07] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: now run sudo di-release-upgrade
[23:07] <IdleOne> do*
[23:07] <TJ-> Troy^: Probably a mistype that meant it found the original version of u1sdtool in the PATH before the local-user version
[23:07] <jamar> realy need some help cdrom drive not working
[23:07] <Troy^> TJ-:
[23:07] <Troy^> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1184599/
[23:08] <jamar> cdrom not working
[23:08] <TJ-> Troy^: You can do ~/bin/u1sdtool   ... as long as you prefix the path to the executable the system won't search the PATH variable.
[23:09] <Troy^> TJ-: i'm sort of confused lol
[23:09] <TJ-> Troy^: that's what I'd expect. If you do not specify a path to an executable the system first tries to find it on the PATH. It won't look in your current working directory first (as Windows does) *unless* you've specifically added ".:" to the PATH
[23:10] <TJ-> Troy^: If you do "u1sdtool" no matter what directory you are in, it'll search PATH. To find out *which* file a command will run try "which u1sdtool"
[23:10] <Troy^> yea understand TJ- just as the guide flows it shows that it works just running u1sdtool
[23:10] <matts45acp> Troy^: seems samba is already installed on server pc
[23:10] <PeterGriffin> IdleOne: i run it, but it says that my graphic hardware support is limited for 12.04 tls. I suppose it shouldnt be a problem as it is a server and does not need X?
[23:11] <Troy^> TJ-: fizz@server:~$ which u1sdtool
[23:11] <jamar> plz any1 can you help fixing my cdrom it is like not install
[23:11] <TJ-> Troy^: In the guide I followed it had me add ~/bin to the PATH in step 2 I think
[23:11] <matts45acp> Troy^: so what exactly do i do now
[23:11] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: correct
[23:11] <TJ-> Troy^: $ which u1sdtool  ...   /home/tj/bin/u1sdtool
[23:12] <matts45acp> Troy^: guide says something about /etc/samba/smb.conf but i dunno how to get to that?
[23:12] <th0r> TJ-: just to clarify, sometimes ~ doesn't work, you need to use the full path. I always check that when I run into scripting problems
[23:13] <TJ-> th0r: True. It depends on which shell the login is using, and any special shopts
[23:13] <TJ-> th0r: But it's a long time since I've seen any shell that doesn't expand "~"
[23:14] <jamar> dvd/rw/drive not working plz help me
[23:14] <hfic> matts45acp, that seems like an issue since linux itself is driven by user input. Not knowing what /etc/samba/smb.conf is or how to get to it is a bit of a problem.
[23:14] <th0r> TJ-: just thought I would mention it. Watching the conversation it seems you are using the two (~ and /home/user) interchangeably
[23:14] <Troy^> matts45acp: i assume the guide wants you to edit it? then sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf or gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf if you are using a gui/window manager
[23:14] <TJ-> th0r: Good point, thank-you. It's the obvious assumptions that often trip us up.
[23:14] <PeterGriffin> IdleOne: aha, here it is again, some error that i'll try to write ....
[23:15] <PeterGriffin> [23:15] <PeterGriffin> [23:16] <Troy^> TJ-: u1sdtool is very cool now i need to make a nice bash script to do daily backups of server and upload the backup then delete the previous one
[23:16] <PeterGriffin> and: press x to destroy or r to reserect window
[23:16] <IdleOne> press r
[23:16] <jamar> dvd/cd rom drive not working when i try mount saying no dic,, are fil not found plz help any1
[23:17] <TJ-> PeterGriffin: Look at the log files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/   you may well find more specific information on the failure there
[23:17] <zykotick9> !xampp | grandmaster
[23:17] <zykotick9> grandmaster: sorry, my windows was scrolled way up.  my bad.
[23:18] <PeterGriffin> TJ- i will check
[23:18] <jamar>  dvd/cd rom drive not working when i try mount saying no dic,, are fil not found plz help any1
[23:19] <TJ-> Troy^: I see scripts to do similar for dropbox. You use rsync into the local machine's ~/.ubuntuone/<dirname>/ and then the sync-daemon does the ubuntuone bit
[23:20] <PeterGriffin> is it possible the reason to be that the date is some day in 2006?
[23:20] <jamar>  dvd/cd rom drive not working when i try mount saying no dic,, are fil not found plz help any1
[23:20] <Troy^> i've never used rsync i was looking at this script https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/backup-shellscripts.html then modifying and adding the sync-daemon portion etc.
[23:20] <zykotick9> jamar: does "ls -l /dev/cdrom" -> sr0?  do you only have 1 optical drive?
[23:21] <jamar> will check now ty
[23:21] <DG_> hey guys, can i move the taskbar to the bottom of the screen?
[23:21] <PeterGriffin> IdleOne: after reserecting it the upgrade started again and got to the same point with the same error
[23:21] <methods> why would "mesa gl/glu i386 dev" try to uninstall the non i386 version ?
[23:22] <zykotick9> methods: are you using aptitude by chance?
[23:22] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: Can you pastebin the exact error please
[23:22] <methods> apt-get
[23:22] <zykotick9> methods: k.
[23:22] <methods> i want to be able to build gl apps for 32 and 64 bit systems
[23:23] <TJ-> Troy^: The standard Ubuntu back-up tool Deja-Dupe supports UbuntuOne
[23:23] <zykotick9> methods: seriously, i'd run 64 bit and VM the 32bit myself...
[23:23] <methods> for what ?
[23:23] <Troy^> oh ok TJ- hmm
[23:23] <methods> i don't have that option there is no reason this shouldn't work
[23:23] <TJ-> Troy^: see for instance, http://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/
[23:24] <jamar> no seeing any media drive
[23:24] <jamar> not
[23:24] <TJ-> methods: It's because of the new multilib support on x86 architectures
[23:24] <PeterGriffin> IdleOne: [23:24] <methods> idk what that even means
[23:24] <Troy^> TJ-: nice now it is to set that up headless
[23:24] <PeterGriffin> [23:24] <PeterGriffin> that's it
[23:24] <PeterGriffin> or do you mean the log file?
[23:25] <TJ-> Troy^: http://askubuntu.com/questions/99471/can-you-install-deja-dup-on-a-headless-server
[23:25] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: are you trying to upgrade a remote server?
[23:25] <methods> pretty ridiculous if i can't have dev packages installed for building
[23:25] <PeterGriffin> no, it is in front of me
[23:26] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: I'm not understanding why the command is detaching from the window
[23:26] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: I don't think I can help.
[23:27] <wjtaylor_> Anyone out there running gnome 2?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> wjtaylor_: gnome2 is dead
[23:27] <Zaf_> wow
[23:27] <wjtaylor_> I know. That's why I can't find anyone running it. :)
[23:27] <Zaf_> so many people here
[23:28] <jamar> ls -l /dev/cdrom" -> sr0  i got the messeg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Sep  3 14:31 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[23:28] <PeterGriffin> well the only thing i cat add is that the log file is full of broken dependencies
[23:28] <zykotick9> wjtaylor_: lol, sorta.  debian-stable has supported gnome2 for 1 year+ for sure.
[23:28] <jamar> ls -l /dev/cdrom" -> sr0  i got the messeg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Sep  3 14:31 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[23:28] <Zaf_> well, can i ask a question
[23:28] <Zaf_> maybe I'm right here^^
[23:28] <Zaf_> The point is:
[23:28] <wjtaylor_> zykotick9: are you running it?
[23:28] <Troy^> wjtaylor_: gnome 3 is nice
[23:28] <Zaf_> I want to run a Minecraft Server on an Ubuntu Server
[23:29] <Zaf_> I did Try around a little
[23:29] <Zaf_> (made a VM with virtual box) and did the basic setup
[23:29] <Zaf_> but now when it comes to the users etc.
[23:29] <wjtaylor_> I can't seem to get gnome 3 going. It always gives me the gnome fallback and unity.
[23:29] <opieng> I ubuntu going to be supporting more gaming in the future?
[23:29] <opieng> *is
[23:29] <Zaf_> I am not sure, if the security is high enough
[23:29] <Zaf_> my question: does anyone know
[23:29] <zykotick9> wjtaylor_: gnome2, no.  i gave up on gnome, and run a windows manager only environment now.  but i could easily enough.
[23:29] <bobweaver> opieng,  yes Unity (gaming engine ) is coming
[23:29] <Troy^> Zaf_: try #minecraft
[23:30] <Zaf_> if there is a (security) iso for that?
[23:30] <opieng> bobweaver, timeframe? :)
[23:30] <Zaf_> ya, but I don't want to look for MC xD
[23:30] <Zaf_> I need a secure Ubuntu server^^
[23:30] <jamar> plz help dvd/cd drive not mounting when i RUN ls -l /dev/cdrom" -> sr0  i got the messeg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Sep  3 14:31 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[23:30] <Zaf_> (first)
[23:30] <abeljohn67> hi
[23:30] <wjtaylor_> zykotick9: My volume control always shows my recording inputs as muted and I can't capture sound. Even when I unmute them!
[23:30] <bobweaver> opieng,  google unity 4.0  not sure on the time frame for that but blender is gathering speed also everyday
[23:30] <wjtaylor_> Output is fine.
[23:30] <jamar> plz help dvd/cd drive not mounting when i RUN ls -l /dev/cdrom" -> sr0  i got the messeg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Sep  3 14:31 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[23:31] <zykotick9> wjtaylor_: sorry sound issues - aren't my thing.  good luck.
[23:31] <opieng> bobweaver, do you think it's going to be months? Years?
[23:31] <PeterGriffin> IdleOne: last thing, do you think that if i untar the backup of the 8.04, which is the last working version, it will replace the criple working 10.04 and we'll try to forget all about this fail?
[23:31] <wjtaylor_> np. Apparently they're not mine either. :)
[23:32] <bobweaver> opieng,  you can pre order at this time. there will be more games coming from that and I hope that one day UDK will also be usable on *nix
[23:32] <carter> can someone hlep me fix a broken package
[23:32] <opieng> bobweaver, Do you have a link for it?
[23:32] <opieng> please
[23:33] <bobweaver> opieng,  https://store.unity3d.com/
[23:33] <jamar> plz help dvd/cd drive not mounting when i RUN ls -l /dev/cdrom" -> sr0  i got the messeg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Sep  3 14:31 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[23:33] <carter> i cant download anything off of the store because it says go to synaptic and fix a package
[23:34] <opieng> thanks
[23:34] <jamar> plz i keep ask for help
[23:34] <jamar> help
[23:34] <jamar> help
[23:34] <bobweaver> carter,  what is up with your package management systems ?
[23:34] <IdleOne> PeterGriffin: I think the best thing would be to do a clean install of 12.04 to be honest.
[23:35] <bobweaver> carter,  you tried to update & upgrade ?
[23:35] <carter> i just installed linux on my computer and i cant download anything off the store because it says i have a broken package and idk how to find it and fix it
[23:35] <bobweaver> jamar, you are trying to link things ?
[23:35] <IdleOne> carter: sudo apt-get -f install
[23:35] <jamar> no bob
[23:36] <jamar> my dvd drive not mounting
[23:36] <jamar> plz help dvd/cd drive not mounting when i RUN ls -l /dev/cdrom" -> sr0  i got the messeg lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Sep  3 14:31 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[23:36] <zenmaster> I need you to develop stuff, but the surface I give is made of tar. So as hard and as fast as you trying to work, it feels like you are trying fight or swim in a dream. Everything is in slow motion. At least that is what I my workstation feels like......
[23:37] <carter> thank you
[23:37] <methods> TJ-:  why would multilib matter ?
[23:38] <jamar> bob how can i link it
[23:38] <bobweaver> jamar,  whats mount say ?
[23:38] <bobweaver> jamar,  type mount into the terminal
[23:39] <bobweaver> jamar,  is it listed ? what about under /media/    ?
[23:39] <cellofellow> My laptop is running rather hot and it's actually a little uncomfortable to use. CPU usage is minimal (idling), so that's not the problem. Computer is brand new, so the cooling passages aren't clogged. The CPU is barely idling and the CPU core temp is 60C and the fan won't kick in. I've tried enabling fancontrol but the mobo has no pwm controls. What else can I do to cool my computer off?
[23:39] <jamar> no dict,,.. are file not found
[23:39] <TJ-> methods: multilib pulls in amd64 core libraries on i386 systems, and i386 core libraries on amd64 systems, when certain of the primary libraries are installed
[23:39] <Fudge> what package is yad in?
[23:40] <methods> TJ-:  so is there no simple way to have the dev packages installed so i can have a server to build both versions ?
[23:40] <methods> TJ-:  is this a bug ?
[23:40] <TJ-> methods: Well the -dev packages are arch-agnostic. But when installing packages you can use the suffix :amd64 or :i386 to force the architecture you require
[23:40] <IdleOne> Fudge: guayadeque, guayadeque-dbg, libyadis-ruby, libyadis-ruby1.8, phpmyadmin
[23:41] <carter> can someone help i have had this version of linux before and i could download google chrome but it says its not in the app store why?
[23:41] <TJ-> methods: Not sure if that works for build-deps though
[23:41] <PeterGriffin> IdleOne you are right, may be its the only good option. thanks for the help
[23:41] <jamar> still there bob
[23:41] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, because it doesn't conform to package guidelines
[23:41] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, you can download it and install it from Google
[23:41] <methods> TJ-:  but all the files should be under /usr/lib/i386* for i386 .. they shouldn't conflict ..
[23:41] <carter> but last time it had it in the app store
[23:41] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, it integrates with the store after you've downloaded it from Google too
[23:41] <trism> methods: its in progress, but is isn't finished yet, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchCross
[23:41] <carter> can i update the app store or something
[23:42] <bobweaver> carter,  have you tried chromium-browser
[23:42] <BHO1> Can anyone help me with a problem on Xbuntu 12.04 LTS?
[23:42] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, there's kinda no need
[23:43] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, you do know that Chromium is the open source project Google Chrome is based on right?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> BHO1: ask away
[23:43] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, if you install Chromium, you have Chrome without the proprietary bits
[23:43] <carter> yea and thats what i had last time but for some reason its not there
[23:43] <cellofellow> hello?
[23:43] <TJ-> methods: Yes, /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/. What precisely are you doing to that is causing you concern?
[23:43] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, it's there on my search results.  What version of Ubuntu are you using? :|
[23:43] <BHO1> I just installed Xbuntu yesterday.  Today I forgot to plug in my laptop and it died.  Ever since it died, my screen has been dim and i can not figure out how to brighten it.
[23:44] <bobweaver> carter,  open terminal ctrl+alt+t     sudo apt-get -y install chromium-browser
[23:44] <carter> i installed 7.10 and updated it to 8.04 i think
[23:44] <bobweaver> ohh that is why
[23:44] <jamar> wow no help i have been ask 1 hour now but no help
[23:44] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, you need to install a newer version
[23:44] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, that version is past End of Life
[23:44] <bazhang> !helpme | jamar
[23:45] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, 8.04 doesn't get patches/updates or support for desktop use any more, you need to update to 10.04
[23:45] <hylian> jamar: what's going on? I just got here
[23:45] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, that may explain the lack of a search result
[23:45] <jamar> thank you
[23:46] <hylian> bazhang: man you are everywhere. how do you keep it all sane?
[23:46] <carter> what is the latest update with the patches and stuff
[23:46] <DG_> guys, is there a way to move the taskbar?
[23:46] <jamar> my dvd/cd drive not work will not mount
[23:46] <hylian> DG_: on what desktop environment? Unity?
[23:46] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, 12.04 is the newest version
[23:46] <bobweaver> cater 12.04 lts
[23:46] <methods> trism:  so it's all held back by 558104 ?
[23:46] <DG_> on ubuntu? lol im confused
[23:46] <hylian> jamar: have you tried another cd?
[23:46] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, the version numbers are based on the year and month of release by the way :)
[23:46] <carter> will 10.04 have the updates though?
[23:47] <carter> like google
[23:47] <jamar> yes same thing
[23:47] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, technically yes, but I don't recommend it
[23:47] <methods> TJ-:  if i try to install dev:i386 it uninstalls normal dev so i end up going in circles every time i want to build the other vrsion
[23:47] <hylian> DG_: if you have freshly installed Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 you are using Unity.
[23:47] <cheetashock> Does anyone here know what could cause a disk (that may or may not work) to give "fdisk: unable to read /dev/sdb: Invalid argument" when I try to open it in [c]fdisk?
[23:47] <DG_> fresh install
[23:47] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, if you're gonna change version, just grab 12.04.  It has 5 years of support lifetime :D
[23:47] <DG_> so 12.04
[23:47] <hylian> DG_: so you are asking if there is a way to move the Unity bar on the left then, right?
[23:48] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, it won't need an upgrade until April 2017 if you use 12.04 ;)
[23:48] <DG_> yes
[23:48] <DG_> can i put it on the bottom?
[23:48] <carter> and 12 will run fine with a gb of ram and a 2.4 ghz processor
[23:48] <WarOfTheNerd> carter, of course
[23:48] <carter> alright thank you i appreciate it alot
[23:48] <jamar> still there hylian
[23:48] <methods> what i just did was go into /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu and symblink libGL and libGLU to their .so name and then add -L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa to my -m32 builds which allows me to have ability to compile 32 or 64 any time without messing with packages
[23:48] <hylian> DG_: i will dig into the askubuntu searches and see if I can come up with an answer for you, I will be back shortly.
[23:49] <DG_> ok thanks :)
[23:49] <hylian> jamar: did you try another cd/dvd?
[23:49] <TJ-> methods: which packages are you trying to pull the build-deps for?
[23:50] <jamar> hylian yes i did but still didnt work
[23:50] <TJ-> methods: For building you only need to set the arch if using the debian/rules build system
[23:51] <methods> TJ-:  it's not for any packages it's for my own code base which i build 32 / 64 bit versions and deploy out.. i want a central system to build them
[23:51] <TJ-> methods: This may help you then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain#Multiarch_and_multilib_configurations
[23:51] <jamar> when i try mount from dev/cdrom i get No such file or directory
[23:51] <natsirt> methods:How do I becoem a Linux master?
[23:52] <hylian> DG_: it is possible, but there is no official canonical way of doing it. There are some patches out there that let you do it, but they require using a program called ccsm, which has known security issues and other things that could cause you headaches in the future. It's up to you, but it's not recommended.
[23:52] <ratcheer> natsirt: Just keep learning stuff.
[23:52] <DG_> well then, thats annoying
[23:52] <DG_> ill just keep it thanks
[23:52] <hylian> jamar: hmm. havent had this problem in a while. let me do a little digging, and i'll be right back.
[23:52] <BHO1> I just installed Xbuntu yesterday.  Today I forgot to plug in my laptop and it died.  Ever since it died, my screen has been dim and i can not figure out how to brighten it.
[23:53] <natsirt> DG_: If I write a fork bomb script in ubuntu will it harm it or just freeze it?
[23:53] <jamar>  hylian  ok
[23:53] <WarOfTheNerd> hylian, how could CCSM have security issues?
[23:53] <DG_> natsirt: i dont know if you meant to actually send that to me :/ i know nothing  about ubuntu
[23:54] <exaem> so tired
[23:54] <exaem> woops wrong chan
[23:54] <WarOfTheNerd> hylian, it's a client app with no networking and no input other than users own expected input?
[23:54] <natsirt> DG_: Sorry i thought you were the made guy around here
[23:54] <methods> TJ-:  what was that supposed to show me though ?
[23:54] <hylian> WarOfTheNerd: I personally don't know. AskUbuntu is the website that stated this, and since AskUbuntu is official Canonical, I am assuming it is right. If you want, I can shoot you the url for the forum message I found this information in.
[23:54] <TJ-> BHO1: Have you tried System Settings > Power > Brightness Settings ?
[23:54] <DG_> lol its ok, turst me i know NOTHING
[23:55] <WarOfTheNerd> hylian, go for it
[23:55] <TJ-> methods: "Some configuration systems assume fixed paths for libraries and include files, which may not work with the new multiarch locations. Instead of directly searching a set of known directories, it's better to let the compiler search for these. "
[23:55] <hylian> WarOfTheNerd: ok, here is the article: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[23:55] <WarOfTheNerd> hylian, also it's not official, it's unofficial ran by a 3rd party
[23:56] <matts45acp> Troy^: how do i exit the smb.confg in the terminal
[23:56] <Troy^> matts45acp: ctrl+x
[23:56] <methods> TJ-:  that doesn't help me .. because like we've already talked about trying to install dev:i386 uninstalls the other one.. so i got around it by doing some dirty tricks
[23:56] <WarOfTheNerd> hylian, it just mentions bugfixes.  It's not a security sensitive app, so security isn't a worry ;-)
[23:57] <hylian> WarOfTheNerd: ohh, I must have mis read that.
[23:57] <hylian> jamar: does ubuntu show you the cd, but not mount it, or does it do absolutely nothing?
[23:58] <WarOfTheNerd> hylian, well given the fact that almost every other patch is a security fix on most distros these days, it's almost becoming synonymous
[23:58] <jamar> nothing
[23:58] <matts45acp> Troy^: now it says file name to write
[23:59] <matts45acp> Troy^: what i hit now
[23:59] <Troy^> enter
[23:59] <jamar>  hylian nothing
[23:59] <TJ-> methods: But is your application being packaged for Debian/Ubuntu? That's what I assumed, so you'd use the new Multilib packaging conventions for foreign libs. The policy is at http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation