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| FourDollars | Hi, how do I push an new package into Ubuntu precise-updates ? | 03:17 |
|---|---|---|
| FourDollars | Is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports ? | 03:17 |
| FourDollars | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports | 03:17 |
| micahg | !sru | FourDollars | 03:19 |
| ubottu | FourDollars: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 03:19 |
| FourDollars | micahg: thanks | 03:19 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 04:56 |
| ajmitch | morning pitti | 04:57 |
| pitti | wgrant: ah, yay duplication :) well, it wasn't much lost | 06:10 |
| wgrant | Indeed, there's not a huge amount of code to either of them :) | 06:10 |
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| RAOF | pitti: Hey, how do you unwrite a bugpattern? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/929219 is accidentally snaffling lots of dbus crashes. | 07:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 929219 in gwibber (Ubuntu Precise) "chromium-browser, gvfsd-http and others using eglibc crash with SIGSEGV in __nscd_get_mapping() or gethostbyname2_r()" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 07:00 |
| pitti | RAOF: just change it in lp:~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns, the cron job pick it up in the next 15 mins | 07:00 |
| pitti | RAOF: but I guess in this case it should probably be refined instead of removed? | 07:01 |
| RAOF | pitti: Probably. | 07:01 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:02 |
| RAOF | pitti: Hm. Probably just switching from “ThreadStacktrace” to “Stacktrace” would do, I think. | 07:06 |
| RAOF | Why can you match on ThreadStacktrace, anyway? That seems hugely prone to false-positives. | 07:06 |
| pitti | bug patterns don't care -- they have no logic of their own | 07:08 |
| pitti | they just apply whichever key/value regexp matches you specify | 07:08 |
| pitti | ogra_: the instructions for the current armhf desktop images make it sound like they'd boot right off USB -- is that really possible now? | 07:59 |
| ogra_ | erm, no | 07:59 |
| pitti | (from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds/22473/testcases) | 08:00 |
| ogra_ | the panda ROM can only boot off SD or usbnetwork via the mini USB port | 08:00 |
| pitti | ogra_: ok, so still "burn .iso on SD card and install onto USB-stick and generate a small boot SD" | 08:00 |
| pitti | ogra_: merci | 08:01 |
| ogra_ | pitti, ah, i think thats just a copy/paste of the x86 instructions | 08:01 |
| ogra_ | pitti, sudo dd if=path_to.img of=/dev/your/sd/card bs=4M | 08:01 |
| pitti | yeah, been there, done that; I just wondered whether the instructions were deliberate | 08:02 |
| ogra_ | attach a USB disk as target device to your panda, plug in the SD (and monitor,mouse,kbd) and just boot | 08:02 |
| ogra_ | the rest is like any other desktop install (except that we dont run a live session by default) | 08:02 |
| ogra_ | and dont remove the SD after install, it becomes your "bootfloppy" | 08:03 |
| pitti | nice; I'm eager to see the progress since alpha-2, it's been a while since I touched the Panda board | 08:04 |
| ogra_ | well, we default to have the 3D driver installed now ... and you run the "real unity" :) | 08:04 |
| seb128 | ogra_, 2 USB ports, ENOTENOUGH for keyboard,mouse,usb stick | 08:05 |
| ogra_ | there are still flickering issues and since we switched to 3D by default firefox got massively slow | 08:05 |
| RAOF | Heh. I'll need to try that again. | 08:05 |
| ogra_ | seb128, yeah, you need a hub :( | 08:05 |
| RAOF | seb128: You mean your monitor is *not* a usb hub? :) | 08:05 |
| seb128 | RAOF, not only it's not an usb hub, but it also doesn't do hmdi, only vga and dvi... ;-) | 08:05 |
| RAOF | seb128: You may have other problems, then :) | 08:06 |
| ogra_ | seb128, you *can* install to SD ... but need to prepare the partitioning in advance and make sure the partitioner of ubiquity doent touch the device at all during install | 08:06 |
| ogra_ | *doesnt | 08:06 |
| seb128 | RAOF, I've been using the pandobard on the TV so far, it's my only hdmi capable screen | 08:06 |
| ogra_ | seb128, so put that TV in your office and expense a new one ;) | 08:06 |
| seb128 | ogra_, I guess I can as well install with a keyboard and no mouse, or hotswap those :p | 08:06 |
| seb128 | ogra_, ;-) | 08:06 |
| ogra_ | oh, yeah, indeed | 08:07 |
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| xnox | I have single USB dongle for wireless keyboard&mouse =) Win! =) | 08:18 |
| pitti | jibel: on the ubiquity screen about partitioning/formatting ("erase/lvm/encrypt/other"), the continue button does not work; did you see this on other platforms as well? (I'm trying current beta-1 armhf) | 08:33 |
| xnox | pitti: hmmm...? do you have external drive plugged in or are you doing 'pre-partioned' way? | 08:34 |
| jibel | pitti, it works on intel | 08:34 |
| xnox | pitti: and ogra was reporting success on panda's with yesterdays beta candidates I think.... | 08:34 |
| pitti | I tried back and next again, and now it works | 08:35 |
| pitti | I only plugged in the USB drive when the ubiquity start screen was already on, so perhaps it got confused due to that | 08:35 |
| xnox | yes it would, cause it locks down environment / blocks device events early. | 08:36 |
| tsdgeos | do we plan to fix/silence out that annoying fontconfig warnings each time you start an application? | 08:39 |
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| xnox | tsdgeos: Laney was planning to mass upload / fix all the fonts. | 08:41 |
| Laney | hahaha | 08:41 |
| Laney | I think I actually said that I /might/ fix /some/ of them :P | 08:42 |
| Daviey | three cheers for Laney, volunteering to fix all of them. hip, hip. | 08:44 |
| xnox | HORAY! =) | 08:45 |
| ogra_ | *clap* *clap* *clap* | 08:46 |
| Laney | /quit | 08:46 |
| ajmitch | heh | 08:46 |
| Laney | but really, which ones are there on a default install? | 08:46 |
| Laney | is it just the ones from l-s? | 08:46 |
| ajmitch | but look at all the support you're getting | 08:46 |
| Laney | yes... I could convert it into delicious Danish beer | 08:47 |
| xnox | dholbach: we really need developer initiative for bug 1034928 | 08:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1034928 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Fontconfig warning: Having multiple values in <test> isn't supported and may not works as expected" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034928 | 08:48 |
| xnox | they annoy everyone and there are too many font-config based fonts with these warnings which spam stderr | 08:49 |
| Nafallo | hi | 08:49 |
| ogra_ | look another volunteer | 08:49 |
| Nafallo | I'm just running ubuntu-support-status on a server for a customer, and I see the kernel is showing up as only 18m support. | 08:50 |
| Nafallo | what's going on? o_O | 08:50 |
| Nafallo | this is on LTS obviously. | 08:50 |
| xnox | thanks ogra_ !!! I knew you would step up =) | 08:50 |
| ogra_ | erm | 08:50 |
| ogra_ | xnox, i promise to fix all fonts that fail on arm after Laney is done ;) | 08:51 |
| ajmitch | Laney: no-change rebuilds then? :) | 08:51 |
| cjwatson | Nafallo: Oh, that probably needs a seed tweak. What's the ABI version here? | 08:52 |
| cjwatson | Nafallo: And do you mean precise? | 08:52 |
| Nafallo | cjwatson: precise indeed. ABI 29 :-) | 08:52 |
| Nafallo | cjwatson: thanks for confirming my suspicion :-) | 08:53 |
| cjwatson | Hmm, right - let me prod at this, the SUPPORTED_HINTS stuff looks rather unloved in precise | 08:54 |
| Nafallo | heh | 08:54 |
| Nafallo | another thing for the checklists ;-) | 08:54 |
| cjwatson | Nafallo: Which package name *exactly*? | 08:58 |
| dholbach | xnox, feel free to add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative :) | 08:58 |
| Nafallo | Supported until October 2013 (18m): | 08:58 |
| Nafallo | linux-image-server | 08:58 |
| Nafallo | Supported until March 2014 (18m): | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | linux-headers-3.2.0-29 linux-headers-3.2.0-29-generic | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic | 08:59 |
| Nafallo | ^-- cjwatson | 08:59 |
| cjwatson | OK, thanks | 08:59 |
| cjwatson | I wonder what's going on with those dates | 09:00 |
| xnox | dholbach: ok. | 09:00 |
| Nafallo | they do seem a bit random, don't they? :-) | 09:00 |
| dholbach | :-D | 09:00 |
| cjwatson | Because one of "until October 2013 (18m)" and "until March 2014 (18m)" is lying | 09:00 |
| cjwatson | Never mind anything else | 09:00 |
| cjwatson | So linux-image-server is kind of OK as it is - the supported thing is linux-image-generic-pae, -server is just a transitional package really | 09:02 |
| cjwatson | Oh, except this is amd64 isn't it | 09:02 |
| cjwatson | linux-image-generic then | 09:02 |
| cjwatson | So in that case it probably is just the usual business about bumping for new ABIs | 09:02 |
| Nafallo | server and generic are the same these days? | 09:07 |
| * ogra_ wonders if the back/forward buttons in the ubiquity slidesho work for anyone else or if thats a pandaboard specific bug | 09:07 | |
| ogra_ | +w | 09:07 |
| cjwatson | Nafallo: I *think* this should be fixed after the precise-updates Packages files are next regenerated (so whenever an SRU is next published there) | 09:09 |
| Nafallo | okay, kewl :-) | 09:09 |
| Nafallo | I'll keep testing. | 09:09 |
| Nafallo | thanks muchly cjwatson | 09:09 |
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| pitti | ogra_: now I understand why we had had preinstalled images .. this is taking half a day | 09:49 |
| ogra_ | pitti, with a decent usb disk or key its about 1h | 09:50 |
| ogra_ | (i use a 32G USB 3.0 key here, that finishes in 45min) | 09:50 |
| ogra_ | OMAP5 will have SATA ... that should finish in 10min then | 09:51 |
| ogra_ | USB 2.0 simply only allows 24M/s max. | 09:51 |
| * ogra_ reboots into his finished install | 09:52 | |
| * Laney joins the panda-fest | 10:14 | |
| pitti | ogra_: does unity actually work for you? I've let the blank wallpaper with a mouse cursor stay around for 10 minutes, and nothing happens | 10:23 |
| ogra_ | pitti, yes, works fine, i just reported my bugs on the running desktop | 10:24 |
| ogra_ | pitti, did it work now ? | 10:40 |
| pitti | ogra_: no, I just set it back to my usual mode -- disable lightdm, install openssh-server, and let it sit headless under my desk | 10:41 |
| ogra_ | hmpf | 10:41 |
| ogra_ | would be good to know what failed and why | 10:41 |
| ogra_ | do you know which model your panda is ? | 10:41 |
| ogra_ | (there should be a sticker on the bottom) | 10:42 |
| pitti | "ES Rev B1" | 10:42 |
| pitti | PCBA: 750-2-2170-002 REV B | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | hmm, that shouldnt have any issues | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | im currently testin on a B2 but all the ES'es should be fine | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | pitti, filing a bug with ~/.xsession-errors and Xog.0.log might be helpful | 10:44 |
| pitti | okay; will do after I finish packaging pygobject and having lunch | 10:45 |
| seb128 | ev, jodh: you guys still have workitems on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-graceful-failure that were targetted at beta1, I'm moving them to beta2, could you set them to postponed if you think you will not get to them this cycle? | 10:53 |
| ev | seb128: just saw - cheers | 10:54 |
| Laney | ogra_: oh god, the flickering! | 10:59 |
| ogra_ | Laney, fun, isnt it :) | 10:59 |
| ogra_ | bug 1045491 | 10:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1045491 in pvr-omap4 (Ubuntu Quantal) "Moving mouse messes up the desktop" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045491 | 10:59 |
| Laney | cheers | 11:00 |
| Laney | the mouse seems slightly laggy too, but that could be me | 11:00 |
| * ogra_ would more like to know why the server image doesnt give any screen output at all | 11:00 | |
| ogra_ | gah ! | 11:03 |
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| ogra_ | seems the new framebuffer driver actually requires console= to be set | 11:04 |
| Daviey | does it make sense for svn to still be in main? | 11:48 |
| cjwatson | That depends on whether we care about our userbase who are developers of things other than free software. | 11:49 |
| cjwatson | Or indeed free software in more corporate kinds of settings. | 11:49 |
| cjwatson | In fact we use it ourselves in our datacentre (think LP code imports) so we de facto support it anyway. | 11:50 |
| Daviey | cjwatson: right, i'm not saying throw it out of the archive :).. just trying to work out if it still has a place in main. | 11:54 |
| Daviey | cjwatson: Does Launchpad use 'svn' for imports? | 11:55 |
| Daviey | ah, libsvn1 from svn | 11:57 |
| cjwatson | Daviey: What I mean is that we don't really gain much as an organisation by pretending not to support something we use ourselves | 11:58 |
| cjwatson | I knew you didn't mean to throw it out of the archive | 11:58 |
| mdeslaur | Is svn much of a maintenance burden? I don't really like the idea of tools our developers use to fetch upstream sources and patches not getting security updates... | 11:59 |
| Daviey | mdeslaur: fair point. | 12:00 |
| cjwatson | Quite. I suspect Daviey is asking because it has a pending MIR attached. | 12:00 |
| Daviey | The only reason i raised this was becuas eit has a Recommends showing on C-M.. and wanted a quick health check to see if it is still suitable | 12:00 |
| cjwatson | svn2cl doesn't look that complex though. | 12:00 |
| cjwatson | (Well, I haven't looked at the code but how much complexity can you realistically fit inside 20KB ...) | 12:01 |
| cjwatson | * answers from information theorists not acceptable | 12:01 |
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| tjaalton | should removing /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch be enough in disabling multiarch? doesn't seem to work on a quantal chroot, or I've missed something | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | dpkg --remove-architecture i386 | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | (dpkg --print-foreign-architectures) | 12:13 |
| tjaalton | thanks | 12:14 |
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| dpm | cjwatson, sent another e-mail to u-d, would you (or someone else who's got access to the moderation queue) mind approving it? I've also got another one coming later on | 12:33 |
| seb128 | dpm, you should subscribe to the list ;-) | 12:34 |
| cjwatson | Subscription doesn't help with u-d. | 12:34 |
| dpm | exactly :) | 12:35 |
| cjwatson | I've processed your mail. | 12:35 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, what teams have access? I guess ubuntumembers doesn't? | 12:36 |
| cjwatson | It's supposed to be ubuntu-dev. | 12:36 |
| BenC | Laney: fyi, I'm working on that cryptocipher build failure | 12:36 |
| Laney | ah, excellent | 12:36 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, ok, makes sense, it just feels weird that dpm is out of the set of people who can post there ;-) | 12:36 |
| cjwatson | Well, I can always whitelist him. I'll do that now. | 12:37 |
| seb128 | dpm, you should become ubuntu developer, come on #ubuntu-desktop we will find you stuff you can help with ;-) | 12:37 |
| dpm | cool, thanks seb128 and cjwatson ;) | 12:37 |
| dpm | seb128, oh, didn't realize the whitelisting came at a price! ;-) | 12:37 |
| cjwatson | Whitelisted now. | 12:38 |
| Daviey | step aside seb128.. dpm wants to make the cloud a better place. | 12:38 |
| seb128 | dpm, I was suggesting you the "proper way", whitelist is cheating :p | 12:38 |
| dpm | hahaha | 12:38 |
| dpm | I feel pressured now | 12:38 |
| seb128 | Daviey, heh, I was there first, I won fair and square, back off :p | 12:38 |
| Daviey | dang. | 12:39 |
| dpm | Daviey, oi, you've already got jcastro, you only get one community guy per team! | 12:39 |
| seb128 | or dpm could do desktop during the day and cloud at nights... ;-) | 12:39 |
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| dpm | seb128, yeah, I think it's a good idea, I've always wondered what to do with my ever growing spare time :P | 12:41 |
| seb128 | dpm, ;-) | 12:41 |
| seb128 | take example on dholbach, he keeps telling me how much he misses doing desktop work! | 12:41 |
| dpm | seb128, I know, he was just PM'ing me about how he misses the good old desktop days, you should assign them some work items :-) | 12:43 |
| dpm | *him | 12:43 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:43 |
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| janimo | doko, hi, do you know which version of gcc are supposed to support -fuse-ld=gold ? Precise one does not seem to | 12:52 |
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| doko | janimo, none upstream until now. the safe way is to use -B/usr/lib/gold-ld/ | 13:02 |
| janimo | dobey, thanks | 13:02 |
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| janimo | sorry :) | 13:03 |
| dholbach | seb128, haha | 13:17 |
| dholbach | seb128, try to work with these guys https://launchpad.net/~canonical-community/+mugshots for a while and see what kind of other work you think of as worthwhile afterwards :-P | 13:18 |
| seb128 | dholbach, ;-) | 13:19 |
| BenC | Laney: I'm getting ready to test this patch: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/attachment/ticket/6156/0001-Fix-for-optimizer-bug-on-linux-powerpc-6156.patch | 13:41 |
| BenC | Laney: We're definitely hitting this bug: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/6156 | 13:41 |
| BenC | The minimal test case for -O0 and -O2 shows the failure in the current powerpc ghc | 13:41 |
| Laney | BenC: groovy | 13:46 |
| Laney | feel free to upload that if it works | 13:46 |
| BenC | Excellent, thanks | 13:46 |
| Laney | but please do a binary debdiff to make sure none of the Provides change | 13:46 |
| Laney | I will cry if they do | 13:46 |
| * soren is slightly amazed that Haskell on PowerPC is an area of anyone's particular concern | 13:48 | |
| soren | If I were to come up with an example of "niche", it might very well involve the words "Haskell" and "PowerPC" :) | 13:49 |
| Laney | amazingly, there are actually at least *two* people that care! | 13:49 |
| xnox | jibel: don't want to disturb #ubuntu-release. Debug shows 16.9 TB drive.... is that really 16.9TB drive? | 13:50 |
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| Rovanion | Where are X keymaps located. I've modified a map in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ but when I set the same map and the same variant that I modified, nothing changes. | 13:50 |
| xnox | jibel: partman might not handle that well. | 13:50 |
| jibel | xnox, well, I'd like to allocate 16TB to each VM I use, but no it's 16GB | 13:51 |
| xnox | jibel: ok. I wonder if there is magnitude error somewhere. | 13:51 |
| jibel | xnox, output of sfdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/1185781/ | 13:52 |
| seb128 | slangasek, hey, do you know if qemu-linary should build the spice binary on 32bits in quantal? | 14:03 |
| jibel | xnox, especially for you I attached the error message in russian. as I said in the comment, the key seems to be to start the live session in a non-english language | 14:14 |
| xnox | jibel: locale which has commas as the decimal separator and hence we get shell errors....?! | 14:15 |
| zul | mterry: ping | 14:26 |
| mterry | zul, hello | 14:26 |
| zul | mterry: can you have a look at the MIR for requests please | 14:26 |
| mterry | zul, yes, on my list. I'll look at it now | 14:26 |
| zul | mterry: cool thanks | 14:26 |
| xnox | jibel: hmm.. no crash in the current test. but i did install instead of live-session -> install. will redo again now. | 14:33 |
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| zyga | hey | 14:40 |
| zyga | I have a question about udisks and udisks2 being on our default desktop ISOs | 14:40 |
| zyga | udisks is being pulled by checkbox | 14:40 |
| zyga | and apparently nothing else on the CD needs it | 14:40 |
| zyga | so here's the question: | 14:40 |
| zyga | or questions: | 14:40 |
| zyga | 1) is it safe/sane to keep both running at the same time? I've observed some differences as compared to precise and while I don't know if they are caused by the two running in tandem it's certainly a possibility | 14:41 |
| zyga | 2) is there a strong desire to eject udisks from the ISO? If so we could bump the priority of the bug in checkbox and rewrite the relevant parts to use udisks2 | 14:42 |
| zyga | slangasek, hey, since I know you, do you know who might be the best person to ask about ^ ? | 14:42 |
| zyga | jono, hey, would you mind telling me who is the best person to talk to, from the platform team, about udisks 1 & 2 being on the ISO | 14:49 |
| ogra_ | zyga, pitti used to maintain it in the past, not sure who has taken over | 14:50 |
| ogra_ | (or if someone has) | 14:50 |
| zyga | oh, cool | 14:50 |
| zyga | pitti, ^^ | 14:50 |
| pitti | zyga: udisks 1 should disappear; hasn't it yet? | 14:50 |
| zyga | nope | 14:50 |
| pitti | urgh | 14:50 |
| zyga | it's right on the iso | 14:50 |
| zyga | because of checkbox | 14:50 |
| zyga | and it's running | 14:50 |
| jono | :-) | 14:50 |
| zyga | so scroll up to see my questions above | 14:50 |
| pitti | ah, and usb-creator | 14:50 |
| brendand | pitti - usb-creator also pulls udisks? | 14:51 |
| pitti | yes, there is a strong desire; udisks1 is unmaintained, and just mirrors what udisks2 is doing | 14:51 |
| zyga | pitti, IIRC usb-creator was not in rdepends | 14:51 |
| pitti | it is | 14:51 |
| zyga | oh, sorry then | 14:51 |
| pitti | usb-creator-common depends on it | 14:51 |
| zyga | right usb-creator-common | 14:51 |
| pitti | bug 1024405 | 14:51 |
| zyga | ok | 14:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1024405 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Quantal) "Port to udisks2" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024405 | 14:51 |
| zyga | so I'm working on a bug to rewrite checkbox to udisks2 | 14:51 |
| pitti | zyga: nice, thanks! | 14:52 |
| zyga | https://bugs.launchpad.net/checkbox/+bug/1016035 | 14:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1016035 in checkbox "Add udisks2 support to scripts/removable_storage_* scripts" [High,In progress] | 14:52 |
| zyga | pitti, we need to decide on priority | 14:52 |
| zyga | if udisks1 will absolutely go away from the iso we'll bump it an get rid of udisks1 from quantal checkbox | 14:52 |
| pitti | well, it can't go away as long as there are rdepends | 14:53 |
| pitti | so we need to port checkbox and u-c | 14:53 |
| pitti | then it'll fall off itself | 14:53 |
| zyga | right | 14:53 |
| xnox | is it hard to port between the two? | 14:53 |
| pitti | the concept is the same | 14:53 |
| zyga | xnox, the api has changed to some degree | 14:53 |
| pitti | the API is a bit differently structured | 14:53 |
| * xnox has a local port to python3 of the u-c which needs to land | 14:53 | |
| zyga | xnox, it's not just a x/1/2/ in the strings you send | 14:53 |
| xnox | zyga: =( | 14:53 |
| pitti | the biggest issue with usb-creator is that it has a full udisks mock implementation for the test suite | 14:53 |
| * xnox lol | 14:53 | |
| zyga | ah | 14:54 |
| brendand | ! | 14:54 |
| pitti | the actual parts that are being used at runtime are fairly small | 14:54 |
| zyga | ok | 14:54 |
| zyga | pitti, one last question, in case both end up on the CD | 14:54 |
| zyga | pitti, and we run both by default | 14:54 |
| zyga | pitti, is that safe? | 14:54 |
| pitti | yes, should be | 14:54 |
| zyga | pitti, as I've noted in my bug it seems to do less than it did in precise | 14:54 |
| pitti | (and udisks 1 doesn't run until something talks to it) | 14:54 |
| zyga | pitti, to be precise, it is not sending the signal on fs mounts anymore | 14:55 |
| zyga | pitti, ah, good point, it's service activated | 14:55 |
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| pitti | I still see it in the udisks and gvfs monitors, and gvfs depends on tracking mounts | 14:55 |
| zyga | what do you see? | 14:55 |
| zyga | the job FilesystemMounted? | 14:56 |
| zyga | I don't see that in dbus-monitor anymore | 14:56 |
| pitti | 16:56:28.416: /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb: org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Filesystem: Properties Changed | 14:56 |
| pitti | MountPoints: /mnt | 14:56 |
| zyga | udisk2 yeah | 14:56 |
| zyga | udisk1 nope | 14:56 |
| pitti | yeah, sure -- since it doesn't run by default | 14:56 |
| zyga | we have a bug in checkbox where it fails to detect a thumb drive | 14:57 |
| pitti | unless you actually activate it? | 14:57 |
| zyga | hmmm | 14:57 |
| zyga | sure but I look at that attachment: | 14:57 |
| zyga | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/114785262/device-inserted-quantal.txt | 14:57 |
| zyga | udisk is running there as checkbox requests it | 14:57 |
| zyga | but the signal it sends are different from precise where it also reported all fs mounts | 14:58 |
| zyga | I'm not sure what's going on in the plumbing layer | 14:58 |
| zyga | who does the mounting actually? | 14:58 |
| zyga | is that udisks2 or udisks1 or something even lower? | 14:58 |
| pitti | udisks2 | 14:58 |
| zyga | but that would explain why there is no signal | 14:58 |
| zyga | (udisks2 was faster) | 14:58 |
| zyga | right | 14:58 |
| zyga | ok | 14:58 |
| zyga | that explains everything then | 14:58 |
| pitti | through gvfs, triggered by a gnome-settings-daemon plugin (but that doesn't matter) | 14:59 |
| zyga | so in quantal udisks is just as capable, just not used by the relevant desktop machinery that requests the mount | 14:59 |
| pitti | yes, it didn't really change | 14:59 |
| zyga | ok, then it all makes sense now, thanks pitti | 14:59 |
| zyga | I'll try to get rid of that dependency :) | 15:00 |
| pitti | cheers! | 15:00 |
| pitti | and with that, good night everyone! | 15:00 |
| Riddell | barry: what is it about python3 that stops this working? http://paste.kde.org/543998/ importing pyqt should give you a qstring surely | 15:00 |
| barry | Riddell: that might be a better question for ScottK? i don't know the pyqt4 api very well and i wouldn't be surprised if the api were different for python3 | 15:03 |
| cjwatson | yes, it's different | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | QString going away is a *good* thing, you get plain old python strings by default | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | cf. ubiquity r5465 and r5466 | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | Mostly the latter | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | If you don't have to worry about py2 compat then you can just throw plain python strings around and not worry about it | 15:09 |
| BenC | Laney: The patch worked, so upload eminent | 15:13 |
| slangasek | seb128: my recollection is that spice only works on 64-bit; hallyn would be able to confirm | 15:14 |
| slangasek | zyga: maybe pitti | 15:14 |
| slangasek | oh, already sorted ;) | 15:14 |
| seb128 | slangasek, some of the redhat people working on gnome-boxes says that's not true anymore and that spice got fixed to work on 32 bits | 15:15 |
| seb128 | slangasek, should work in the version we have | 15:15 |
| zyga | :) | 15:16 |
| seb128 | slangasek, I will check with hallyn, thanks | 15:16 |
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| Riddell | barry: yeah, just wanted to make sure I haven't come across some fundamental python3 change I didn't know about | 15:18 |
| barry | Riddell: not that i know of :) | 15:18 |
| cjwatson | It's a change in pyqt, not a change in python3 | 15:18 |
| Riddell | pitti: I want to make a change to apport to fix bug 1028984 and I'm lost in the twisty maze of branches, where do I commit it and how to upload? http://paste.kde.org/544016/ | 15:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1028984 in python-qt4 (Ubuntu Quantal) "apport errored when filing bug on test image alpha3" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028984 | 15:19 |
| Riddell | oh he's gone to bed | 15:19 |
| Riddell | smoser: you uploaded apport, can you tell me what the right way is to make changes to it in bzr and the archive? | 15:41 |
| jbicha | hi, I'm getting certificate errors when I visit wiki.ubuntu.com, anyone know if an rt ticket has been opened for that yet? | 15:52 |
| TJ- | what's the error? the cert looks valid | 15:54 |
| smoser | Riddell, i can tell you because i did it wrong :) | 15:54 |
| jbicha | The certificate is only valid for the following names: | 15:54 |
| jbicha | *.canonical.com , canonical.com | 15:54 |
| TJ- | jbicha: I'm seeing it issued as a wildcard for *.ubuntu.com | 15:55 |
| smoser | the upstream branch is a core dev branch, so suerly changes are supposed to be made there before being uploaded. | 15:55 |
| smoser | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/quantal/apport/ubuntu is the branch, but i'm not exactly sure how pitti wants it handled. bdmurray surely knows. | 15:56 |
| jbicha | TJ-: what if you restart your browser? | 15:58 |
| TJ- | jbicha: very strange! Firefox shows *.ubuntu.com but openssl s_client shows *.canonical.com | 15:58 |
| TJ- | jbicha: And Chromium also shows *.ubuntu.com and I've never used Chromium on that site previously | 15:59 |
| TJ- | jbicha: Could be an issue with front-end SSL load-balancers being out of sync | 16:01 |
| jbicha | ok, filed rt ticket 20372 | 16:05 |
| xnox | jbicha: TJ-: the certificate there is blancket, i.e. cloud friendly. not all browsers / ssl implementations will accept it. | 16:11 |
| xnox | but most modern browsers should. | 16:12 |
| xnox | check which extensions the certificate is using. | 16:12 |
| xnox | afaik it is not bound to particular IPs for *.ubuntu.com | 16:12 |
| jbicha | ok, I restarted Firefox & it's working now, thanks | 16:14 |
| seb128 | xnox, for sound indicator integration you need mpris enabled in rb, not sure if you disabled that? | 16:18 |
| seb128 | xnox, it's in rhythmbox-plugins | 16:18 |
| xnox | seb128: having that package uninstalled doesn't help me, does it?! | 16:19 |
| seb128 | xnox, no it doesn't | 16:19 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 16:19 |
| xnox | seb128: that's what I get for partially upgrading at one point, don't I =) | 16:19 |
| seb128 | xnox, indeed, got what you deserved for using dist-upgrade :p | 16:20 |
| xnox | seb128: now If you could help me regain overlay-scrollbars that would be wonderful. As I managed to disable them (when glade was crashing) and can't seem to "re-enable" them any more. | 16:20 |
| seb128 | xnox, did you export OVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 or something? | 16:20 |
| seb128 | LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 | 16:21 |
| xnox | nope. plus that won't work anymore since it became gtk module instead of pre-load. | 16:21 |
| seb128 | xnox, otherwise check that overlay-scrollbar and overlay-scrollbar-gtk3 are installed | 16:21 |
| xnox | yeap have all 5 of them (i.e. including dbgsymbols) | 16:22 |
| seb128 | xnox, the first one has a /etc/X11/Xsession.d/81overlay-scrollbar which does append overlay-scrollbar to the gtk loader list | 16:22 |
| seb128 | xnox, did you hack that to not doit? | 16:22 |
| xnox | yeah, that file is still there. | 16:22 |
| seb128 | echo $GTK_MODULES? | 16:22 |
| xnox | $ env | grep GTK_MODULES | 16:23 |
| xnox | GTK_MODULES=canberra-gtk-module:canberra-gtk-module:overlay-scrollbar | 16:23 |
| seb128 | env | grep -i scrollbar | 16:23 |
| xnox | seb128: same output, i.e. just in the GTK_MODULES..... | 16:23 |
| seb128 | xnox, gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface ubuntu-overlay-scrollbars | 16:23 |
| seb128 | (we have too many way to handle those ;-) | 16:24 |
| xnox | seb128: was set to false..... | 16:25 |
| xnox | seb128: set to true, but restarting apps doesn't make difference. I guess i need to restart a session. | 16:25 |
| xnox | seb128: thanks though =) | 16:25 |
| xnox | seb128: will see if I have scrollbars tomorrow. | 16:25 |
| seb128 | xnox, you shouldn't... | 16:25 |
| ogra_ | seb128, yeah, we should all just move to SuSE ... they just have yast :) | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | (wrt too many places to configure) | 16:26 |
| seb128 | haha | 16:27 |
| seb128 | xnox, but yeah, doesn't seem to pick it dynamically... | 16:27 |
| jcastro | xnox: in the future if you dist-upgrade you can just reinstall ubuntu-desktop to get default "stuff" back. | 16:29 |
| seb128 | jcastro, does that bring back recommends? | 16:30 |
| xnox | jcastro: thanks. Apparently I don't have update-manager installed. No wonder using quantal was so peaceful for me =) | 16:31 |
| jcastro | seb128: I think there's a flag for recommends? | 17:00 |
| jcastro | usually just reinstalling it fixes it up for me, after I shoot myself in the foot anyway... | 17:00 |
| seb128 | jcastro, yeah, things is when recommends quite uninstalled it's hard to flag if it's because you didn't want them or if that was an error or upgrade issue | 17:00 |
| seb128 | quite->get | 17:01 |
| seb128 | jcastro, so they are cases where they will not be reinstalled because they were flagged as something you didn't want | 17:01 |
| jcastro | also I'm assuming that whatever conflict is going on in the archive that led him to a partial upgrade be resolved | 17:02 |
| mips1911 | Hi, where can I get a 12.10 netinstall cd image? | 17:46 |
| directhex | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso ? | 17:53 |
| cjwatson | mips1911: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ has an index | 17:53 |
| jamespage | slangasek, I appear to be struggling to reproduce the issue with iscsi root boot that I saw during alpha-3... | 17:55 |
| mips1911 | cjwatson, thanks I found it via http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds | 17:56 |
| slangasek | jamespage: well, ok then :) | 18:07 |
| jamespage | slangasek, hmm - maybe not - I just added another comment to the bug which seems to relate to when I see the problem | 18:07 |
| jamespage | bug 1028458 for reference | 18:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1028458 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "iSCSI root based servers appear to fail to boot completely" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028458 | 18:08 |
| slangasek | jamespage: oh, hah; then you're seeing bug ##1038055 | 18:09 |
| jamespage | slangasek, certainly seems a little more reliable when i switch cirrus -.> vga | 18:11 |
| slangasek | jamespage: a little more reliable, or completely reliable? :) | 18:12 |
| jamespage | slangasek, rebooting lots to see | 18:12 |
| jamespage | slangasek, OK - I'd go with completely reliable for my small set of reboot tests (~10) | 18:14 |
| jamespage | slangasek, not sure why I'm seeing a splash screen at-all - I thought that was disabled for server? | 18:15 |
| slangasek | jamespage: I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that | 18:16 |
| * jamespage puts that on his list | 18:16 | |
| slangasek | cjwatson: ^^ do you know what the server install is currently supposed to be doing wrt splash screens? | 18:16 |
| jamespage | certainly not like that for 12.04 | 18:20 |
| slangasek | could be a regression introduced by the squashfs work | 18:26 |
| mips1911 | which would be the best mirror to use for a 12.10 netinstall? | 18:31 |
| mips1911 | I'm getting a no kernel modules found error from the installer? | 18:34 |
| mips1911 | ok, seems like the US mirror works while some others don't | 18:50 |
| xnox | mips1911: archive.ubuntu.com should always have the latest/greatest | 18:54 |
| xnox | mips1911: it's best to run your own local mirror though. | 18:55 |
| mips1911 | xnox, I always thought it might be the UK one seeing that's where canonical is 'located'. Anyway the 12.10 mini.iso netinstall seems to be doing it's thing now, only at 6% though. | 18:56 |
| mips1911 | xnox, my own local mirror ZA & the UK one would not work with the net install | 18:58 |
| zul | mterry: ping sorry to bug you again but can you have a look at the MIR for python-quantumclient as well | 19:01 |
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| xnox | mips1911: local as in the one you created yourself on the local network by mirroing / proxying the good mirror e.g. archive.ubuntu.com. | 19:04 |
| xnox | mips1911: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors | 19:04 |
| xnox | will tell the status for each distro release series. Many mirrors have $dev release behind or not at all. | 19:05 |
| xnox | mips1911: so https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ftp.wa.co.za-archive should work fine. | 19:05 |
| mips1911 | xnox, meant local = country ZA | 19:06 |
| mterry | zul, yeah | 19:06 |
| zul | cool thanks | 19:06 |
| xnox | mips1911: sorry. yeah =) check launchpad for the correct & up to date onces. | 19:06 |
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| mips1911 | xnox, thanks but I will just stick to the main one from now on. I'm on a slow link anyway and get no speed difference between the mirrors | 19:09 |
| mips1911 | Are the packages in the 4.10 PPA newer than those in the Quantal repos? | 19:21 |
| mips1911 | Ignore that question, wrong channel. Sorry. | 19:22 |
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| pcarrier | hey | 19:36 |
| pcarrier | any chance I could remove a binary package from a PPA? it got superseded | 19:36 |
| mips1911 | hi | 19:36 |
| trism | pcarrier: in your ppa? on your ppa page, go to package details, then delete packages | 19:38 |
| pcarrier | trism: ooh, good point, just forgot to login :D | 19:40 |
| pcarrier | trism++ | 19:40 |
| pcarrier | hmmm contents files would be nice :) | 19:43 |
| mips1911 | Is it possible to continue a netinstall that got interrupted? ie use the existing files on the hdd? | 19:43 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: depends on when it was interrupted, but probably a bad idea | 19:44 |
| mips1911 | pcarrier, towards the end, it was busy downloading linux-image-extre-3.5.0-13-generic | 19:45 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: in the middle of package downloads? nah, not worth the effort | 19:45 |
| mips1911 | pcarrier, no it was towards the end where most of the packages were installed and then it did a update to apt and had twelve packages to update | 19:46 |
| jtaylor | mips1911: is the download the bottleneck or the installation? the latter can be speed up ~factor 5 by preloading eatmydata | 19:46 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: if it's a VM, you use a caching mirror, at worth on the hypervisors... in case it happens again | 19:46 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: then sure | 19:46 |
| mips1911 | pcarrier, so if I reboot with the install media ho do i continue? | 19:47 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: not sure of the order in which things happen. did grub install? | 19:48 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: already created your first user? | 19:48 |
| mips1911 | pcarrier, no grub install but was asked particulars for user | 19:48 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: so mount your system in a chroot, bind mount /{proc,dev,sys}, dpkg-reconfigure grub2 | 19:49 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: check that the user exists and is in the adm group with 'id $username' | 19:49 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: last 2 operations from the chroot | 19:50 |
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| pcarrier | mips1911: oh, and that's not the right channel (topic). | 19:50 |
| mips1911 | is it not possible to continue in rescue mode? | 19:50 |
| pcarrier | mips1911: if you have a complete system, a bootloader and a user to log as, the rest can be fixed from the virtual machine | 19:51 |
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| mips1911 | pcarrier, thanks will give it a bash | 19:52 |
| pcarrier | oooh quantal has linux-image-extras generic. now I wonder what's in there. | 19:53 |
| pcarrier | Q: when dput'ing into a ppa, looks like debian/changelog is used to establish which distro to build for. is there a magical way to use the same source package for multiple ones? | 19:53 |
| jtaylor | no | 19:54 |
| jtaylor | but often you can just copy packages to other series | 19:54 |
| pcarrier | jtaylor: ok. that'd probably feel a bit too wrong | 19:54 |
| pcarrier | another question :) is there a trick to build source packages without .git/? (I've used debuild -S so far which doesn't seem to offer such an option) | 19:55 |
| jtaylor | source format 3 should automatically ignore vcs folders | 19:55 |
| pcarrier | oooh, good, thanks | 19:55 |
| pcarrier | learning every day he he | 19:55 |
| pcarrier | last place I would have thought of | 19:56 |
| pcarrier | and maybe a last one for the road... anyone knows a way to make git rebases friendly to debian/changelog? i'm getting a bit annoyed by those conflicts | 20:00 |
| pcarrier | oh my, thank you google. http://raphaelhertzog.com/2009/10/08/3-way-merge-of-debian-changelog-files/ | 20:01 |
| pcarrier | superseded by dpkg-mergechangelogs in dpkg-dev | 20:02 |
| jtaylor | there is a changelog merge driver for git | 20:02 |
| pcarrier | jtaylor: yup, just saw that. pretty awesome :) | 20:09 |
| cnd | I'm running into a stupid libtool error: when I run autogen, which runs gnome-autogen.sh under the covers, then make, I get: | 20:32 |
| cnd | libtool: Version mismatch error. This is libtool 2.4 Debian-2.4-2ubuntu1, but the | 20:32 |
| cnd | libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.4.2. | 20:32 |
| cnd | libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.4 Debian-2.4-2ubuntu1 | 20:32 |
| cnd | libtool: and run autoconf again. | 20:32 |
| cnd | I've tried everything I can think of | 20:32 |
| cnd | autoreconf -vfi | 20:32 |
| cnd | various incantations of all the autotools scripts | 20:32 |
| cnd | but nothing seems to work | 20:32 |
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| roaksoax | cjwatson: howdy! around or still on holidays? | 20:41 |
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| === cpg is now known as cpg|away | ||
| BenC | Laney: haskell-cryptocipher successfully built on powerpc with the new ghc | 21:28 |
| Laney | yay | 21:29 |
| Laney | you should be able to give your way back up the stack | 21:29 |
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| iulian | \o/ | 21:32 |
| BenC | Laney: what's the best way to handle that so I do it in the right order? | 21:32 |
| Laney | I doubt you'll be able to get it wrong | 21:32 |
| Laney | you'll just get more failures | 21:32 |
| Laney | but start at the lowest level on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ghc.html and work upwards | 21:32 |
| Laney | they should all be give-backs; no uploading required | 21:33 |
| BenC | Laney: lowest being lowest number, or lowest on the page? | 21:33 |
| Laney | number | 21:33 |
| BenC | Great, thanks | 21:33 |
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| BenC | Laney: how is a give-back done without an upload? | 21:35 |
| Laney | it means to retry a failed build | 21:35 |
| BenC | Everything I see in "X" on there is already built…not ftbfs, so I can't do retry | 21:35 |
| Laney | you only have to do the reverse-depends of cryptocipher | 21:35 |
| BenC | Does that just mean skew between the page and actual builds? | 21:35 |
| Laney | as those are the ones that you would have just fixed | 21:35 |
| Laney | so cross-check it with the other ftbfs list | 21:36 |
| Laney | BenC: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haskell-cprng-aes/0.2.3-3build1/+build/3744085 is one example | 21:38 |
| BenC | Yeah, I realized I only need to look at things higher than cryptocipher :) | 21:39 |
| BenC | Laney: Ok, I have a chain of 6 packages I'm working and watching for give-backs | 21:42 |
| Laney | sweet | 21:43 |
| Laney | now I just have to look at arm | 21:43 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: server/splash> I believe things are meant to be arranged such that plymouth uses the "details" splash, i.e. displays boot messages in text style - if that's not happening it's definitely a bug | 22:02 |
| cjwatson | roaksoax: please leave a message | 22:03 |
| cjwatson | roaksoax: much better to say what you want directly rather than doing the ping/pong thing | 22:03 |
| bjf | cjwatson: the issue i spoke of the other days is bug 1046029 (just fyi) | 22:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1046029 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Network device not configured correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046029 | 22:04 |
| roaksoax | cjwatson: ehe sorry :). Well I was just trying to try the live-installer with the squashfs image but I kept seen a failure apparently related to lack of memory | 22:09 |
| roaksoax | cjwatson: i will provide logs tomorrow as i'm EOD right now | 22:09 |
| roaksoax | cjwatson: other than that, I was wondering if you will make the server squashfs image available on archive.ubuntu.com or will it just stay inside the iso | 22:10 |
| cjwatson | roaksoax: Certainly not archive.ubuntu.com - it's not produced by any machinery that feeds into there | 22:11 |
| cjwatson | roaksoax: I'd rather just publish the ISO and let people worry about unpacking it if they have special needs, since they're going to need other bits of the ISO anyway | 22:11 |
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| slangasek | cjwatson: right, and 'details' is the one you get by not passing 'splash' as a boot arg; so seems something's setting up the boot args wrong | 23:08 |
| cjwatson | Will add to the queue - what's the bug#? | 23:08 |
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