[04:57] <pitti> stgraber, cjwatson: no worries; we can discuss bryce's items on the ML, too
[16:01] <m_3> o/
[16:01] <zul> hi ho...its off to meeting we go
[16:01] <SpamapS> \o\
[16:02] <jamespage> o/
[16:02] <hallyn> o/
[16:02] <utlemming> o/
[16:02] <arosales> hello
[16:02] <arosales> o/
[16:02] <adam_g> o/
[16:04] <arosales> Daviey: are you ok with charing today's meeting?
[16:05] <SpamapS> Ok it falls to me
[16:05] <SpamapS> #startmeeting Server Team
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[16:06] <SpamapS> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:06] <SpamapS> smoser follow up on bug 1028453
[16:06] <arosales> SpamapS: thanks :-)
[16:06] <SpamapS> arosales update IRCComands for Quantal dev
[16:06] <arosales> done
[16:06] <SpamapS> arosales to follow up with hggdh and QA team on Server IRC contact
[16:07]  * hggdh pops up & pays attention
[16:07] <smoser> i poked  a bit on that. it really seems like test case issue/assumption
[16:07] <hggdh> I agree. But the size grew, no matter what
[16:07] <smoser> its too big because we're not getting the '-virtual' kernel installed.
[16:07] <smoser> but i'm not sure what lead to that.
[16:07] <smoser> well, its somehwere in the kernel transition
[16:08] <smoser> but it really seemed like they did that right when i looked a bit.
[16:08] <arosales> hggdh: hello, to confirm are you the correct contact for QA for our weekly meetings here?
[16:08] <hggdh> there is no -virtual anymore. And there is the additional -extras package
[16:08] <SpamapS> smoser: so, carry forward?
[16:08] <smoser> anyway, at least a significant portion of "too big" is due to kernel.
[16:08] <smoser> sure.
[16:08] <smoser> carried.
[16:08] <SpamapS> #action smoser follow up on bug 1028453
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: smoser follow up on bug 1028453
[16:08] <hggdh> arosales: yes, indeed. Was on holiday until yesterday
[16:08] <SpamapS> arosales to update events to include CFP
[16:08] <arosales> hggdh: as was I :-). Just wanted to confirm :-)
[16:08] <SpamapS> I see thats done in the agenda :)
[16:09] <SpamapS> #topic Quantal Development
[16:09] <arosales> SpamapS: I am also going to work on building out a wiki table that folks can update, but start with at least a reminder in the agenda.
[16:09] <SpamapS> cool
[16:09] <arosales> hggdh: thanks for all the server QA help :-)
[16:09] <SpamapS> Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:10] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040033
[16:10] <SpamapS> unassigned
[16:10] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025203
[16:11] <SpamapS> zul: all good for next upload?
[16:11] <zul> SpamapS:  working on it now
[16:11] <SpamapS> hallyn: the qemu-kvm one seems like something maybe you'd be interested in?
[16:12] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453
[16:12] <SpamapS> already discussed
[16:12] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/995285
[16:13] <SpamapS> somebody should probably take ownership of that
[16:13] <SpamapS> zul: ?
[16:13] <SpamapS> adam_g: ?
[16:13] <adam_g> SpamapS: gimme
[16:13] <adam_g> ill assign myself
[16:13] <SpamapS> werd
[16:13] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024281
[16:13] <zul> daviey said he was going to do that
[16:14] <SpamapS> adam_g: That sounds like 'Critical' ?
[16:14] <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044229
[16:15]  * SpamapS feels like Ben Stein
[16:15] <SpamapS> anyone? anyone?
[16:15] <SpamapS> at least lets triage it before we put it on our release tracking
[16:16] <adam_g> SpamapS: RE glanceclient, i was waiting on upstream to determine how they're going to handle the migration between clients. since it appears not high on their list, i'll see about pulling the trigger in our packaging and making the migration in ubuntu the default
[16:16] <SpamapS> adam_g: sweet
[16:17] <SpamapS> unless somebody wants to bring up any other bugs, we'll move on to BP's
[16:17] <jamespage> o/
[16:17] <jamespage> actually I do want to bring something up about release tracking bug
[16:17] <SpamapS> bring it
[16:18] <jamespage> we are a little out of alignment with the report that the release team are using for tracking bugs
[16:18] <jamespage> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[16:18] <jamespage> there is a specific server section; I have been reviewing over the last few days
[16:18] <jamespage> basically anything with a quantal task in the ubuntu-server packageset gets on that list
[16:19] <SpamapS> That seems more natural
[16:19] <jamespage> really a FYI for the moment; we need to figure out how to align the two things (which I will pickup)
[16:20] <arosales> jamespage: perhaps integration with Ursinha new bug reports?
[16:20] <SpamapS> #action jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
[16:20] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
[16:20] <jamespage> maybe
[16:20] <jamespage> ta
[16:20] <arosales> I guess these bugs are more tag related
[16:20] <arosales> jamespage: thanks for brining this up
[16:20] <SpamapS> These bugs here all need addressing or they wouldn't have a quantal task
[16:21] <SpamapS> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1027154
[16:21] <SpamapS> That probably needs an assignee
[16:22] <SpamapS> http://launchpad.net/bugs/967410
[16:22] <SpamapS> that too
[16:22] <jamespage> SpamapS, I'm on that - its not actually confirmed IMHO
[16:22] <SpamapS> Ahh ok
[16:22] <SpamapS> yeah I'm not going to worry about New's or less than High then
[16:23] <zul> jamespage: <-- loves samba
[16:23]  * jamespage falls off his chair
[16:23] <SpamapS> a lot of the juju bugs there were opened as quantal tasks assuming juju would re-try for main in quantal so they can probably be 'wont fixed'
[16:23] <SpamapS> shall we move on to BP's?
[16:23] <jamespage> OK - as this is a new list that not everyone will have looked at please can I suggest people take a look
[16:23] <jamespage> SpamapS, please do
[16:24] <SpamapS> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[16:24] <SpamapS> so it is remembered
[16:24] <SpamapS> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[16:24]  * SpamapS does not know how to work the bot
[16:24] <SpamapS> ok
[16:24] <SpamapS> Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
[16:25] <arosales> Looks like we have gone into the red for servercloud-q blueprints
[16:25] <arosales> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html
[16:25] <SpamapS> Yeah its time to start hammering on the postponed
[16:25] <arosales> SpamapS: should we quickly go over the high/essentials in the red?
[16:25] <SpamapS> do it now so people don't hold out hope :)
[16:25] <SpamapS> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-hardening.html
[16:25] <arosales> +1 be nice to let folks know what wont be landing
[16:26] <SpamapS> That one in particular needs a lot
[16:26] <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
[16:26] <SpamapS> Ursinha: ^^ Perhaps some of these aren't going to happen?
[16:27] <jamespage> sorry - that one is a little stalled ATM - Ursinha and I have been looking at bugs/fixes to the gravity reports to replace everything
[16:29] <arosales> Daviey: zul: adam_g: openstack blueprints progressing ok?
[16:29] <arosales> 27% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa
[16:29] <zul> i think so...ill update them today if they need to
[16:29] <arosales> 36% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-folsom
[16:29] <arosales> 24% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-stable
[16:30] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-deployment-on-arm
[16:30] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha
[16:30] <arosales> I know a lot of these have to land later in the cycle
[16:31] <arosales> ARM on openstack looks to be coming along.
[16:32] <arosales> SpamapS: I think we are going to work on trying to sync up with the juju team on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy
[16:32] <arosales> utlemming: how is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-jenkins-cloud-builder progressing?
[16:33] <utlemming> arosales: 100%
[16:33] <arosales> I think the initial build server is live, correct?
[16:33] <arosales> utlemming:  blueprint @ 44% though
[16:33] <SpamapS> arosales: the release policy stuff is in progress.. I'm not worried about those last items getting done
[16:33] <arosales> SpamapS: ok, thanks.
[16:33] <utlemming> arosales: just changed
[16:33] <arosales> utlemming: ok, thanks.
[16:34] <arosales> SpamapS: you also feel ok about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices
[16:34] <m_3> I think we nailed a lot of that week before last... somebody's gotta update the bp
[16:35] <arosales> SpamapS: as well as https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
[16:35] <arosales> hallyn: you feel comfortable with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-lxc for beta1?
[16:35] <m_3> arosales: biggest prob with that bp atm is a vague "unit tests for flagship charms"...
[16:35] <SpamapS> arosales: for the most part yes. I need to sync back up with everybody on the unit tests, but I think its basically ready.
[16:36] <arosales> SpamapS: ok
[16:36] <hallyn> looking
[16:36] <arosales> m_3: ya we just defined the flagship charms . .
[16:36] <arosales>  m_3 a unit test is a unit test, correct
[16:36] <hallyn> arosales: yes.  i will postpone user namespaces doc item
[16:36] <arosales> or was that additional testing for those flagship charms
[16:36]  * arosales will follow up with m_3 offline
[16:36] <arosales> hallyn: thanks for taking a look
[16:37] <arosales> and last one
[16:37] <arosales> smoser: you feel ok with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils for beta2?
[16:37] <arosales> I guess beta 2 gives us some more time.
[16:37] <m_3> arosales: was embedded '/tests' for each charm
[16:38] <arosales> m_3: gotcha, so getting some more tests for those "flagship" charms.
[16:38] <arosales> perhaps just getting one test for a good charm would be a good example for that work item
[16:38] <arosales> SpamapS: sorry to highjack, back to you.
[16:39] <SpamapS> arosales: oh no, thank *you*
[16:39] <m_3> arosales: will update accordingly.. .thanks
[16:39] <SpamapS> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:39] <SpamapS> Its September!
[16:39] <smoser> arosales, willl look
[16:40] <arosales> smoser: thanks
[16:40] <arosales> m_3:  thanks :-)
[16:40] <arosales> SpamapS: cloud open go ok?
[16:40] <SpamapS> I will be talking about Juju at the San Gabriel Valley Linux Users Group, Sep 13 http://www.sgvlug.org/meetings/2012/09/13/cloning_sysadmins_with_the_cloud_and_juju
[16:41] <SpamapS> CloudOpen was great
[16:41] <SpamapS> attendance felt a bit light..
[16:41] <arosales> hmm interesting
[16:41] <arosales> jimbaker also said he got good interest at the UCAR Seminar
[16:41] <SpamapS> but lots of smart people there
[16:41] <SpamapS> discovered this: http://linux-ha.org/source-doc/assimilation/html/index.html .. which is cool
[16:41] <SpamapS> Anyway, CFP's.. anybody?
[16:42] <SpamapS> I think September may be light on events
[16:42] <SpamapS> everybody heading back to school and all
[16:42] <m_3> btw, linuxplumbers went off without a hitch... driven by juju!
[16:42] <arosales> I think folks already submitted some papers for surge
[16:42] <SpamapS> m_3: right!
[16:42] <arosales> m_3: woot!
[16:42] <arosales> m_3:  thanks for helping charm that and keep it going
[16:43] <SpamapS> Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:43] <SpamapS> oops
[16:43] <SpamapS> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:43]  * m_3 fleshed out some more "juju in production" best practices from it
[16:43] <hggdh> \o
[16:44] <hggdh> since I just returned from a long holiday, and am also with a sinus & throat infection, I do not have anything to show right now. But I DO accept questions :-)
[16:44] <hggdh> ..
[16:45] <arosales> get to feeling better hggdh
[16:45] <SpamapS> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:46] <smb> Since I have been on conferences last week there isn't much I think to be reported here. smoser and me would discuss the cd size issue later on. Are there questions/issues others want to bring up?
[16:46] <smb> ..
[16:46] <SpamapS> smb: craving one of those california burritos yet? ;-)
[16:46] <SpamapS> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:46] <smoser> smb, i'll ping you in a bit
[16:47] <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?
[16:47] <smb> SpamapS, I did not have too many of them, so I am not to bad. :)
[16:51] <SpamapS> oops sorry
[16:51] <SpamapS> #topic Open Discussion
[16:51] <SpamapS> thought I had pasted that already :p
[16:52] <SpamapS> going once
[16:52] <SpamapS> going twice
[16:52] <SpamapS> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:52] <SpamapS> Next Tuesday, September 11, 1600 UTC here in #ubuntu-meeting
[16:53] <SpamapS> #endmeeting
[16:53] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep  4 16:53:10 2012 UTC.
[16:53] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-04-16.05.moin.txt
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[16:53] <arosales> SpamapS: thanks for chair'ing
[16:53] <jamespage> ta SpamapS
[16:54]  * SpamapS bows
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <apw> o/
[17:01] <henrix> o/
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[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> No update this week.
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> one sec..
[17:03] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10-beta-1.html
[17:03] <ogasawara> || apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 3 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||             || desktop-q-clean-old-kernels     || 1 work item ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || cking       || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || tgardner    || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-1 work items.
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:03] <ogasawara> Last week we uploaded the 3.5.0-13.14 Quantal kernel.  This upload
[17:03] <ogasawara> contained some bug fixes which we felt we important for the Beta-1
[17:03] <ogasawara> milestone.  This was also uploaded to the q-lts-backport [1] PPA to help
[17:03] <ogasawara> facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We welcome anyone to
[17:03] <ogasawara> please install, test, and let us know your feedback.
[17:03] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:03] <ogasawara> Note that we are 2 days away from Beta-1.  I do not foresee any further
[17:03] <ogasawara> uploads before Thursday.  At this point in time, any fixes will be
[17:03] <ogasawara> re-targetted towards the Beta-2 milestone.
[17:03] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Sept 6 - Beta 1 (~2 days)
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Sept 20 - Beta 2 (~2 weeks)
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Sept 27 - Beta 2 (~3 weeks)
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:04] <sconklin> == 2012-09-04 (weekly) ==
[17:04] <sconklin> Currently we have 75 CVEs on our radar, with no added and two CVEs retired this week.
[17:04] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:04] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:04] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:04] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:04] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:04] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:04] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (September 04):
[17:04] <henrix>  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
[17:04] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; (7 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Natty - In Preparation; 3 CVEs; (8 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (67 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Precise - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (62 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  
[17:04] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <henrix>  
[17:04] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <henrix>  
[17:04] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:05] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:05] <henrix>  
[17:05] <henrix> NOTE: this is the *last* Natty kernel being built.
[17:05] <henrix> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:05] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep  4 17:05:49 2012 UTC.
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