| nathwill | woot. global jam time | 18:53 |
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| nathwill | also, anybody in the hillsboro area who is open to giving blood, yahoo's hosting a blood drive for redcross tomorrow | 18:54 |
| bkerensa | :D | 18:58 |
| nathwill | 8am-11am | 18:58 |
| nathwill | i think of firefly every time one of you folks joins | 20:37 |
| nibalizer | that was the intention ;) | 21:23 |
| bkerensa | heh | 21:41 |
| blkperl | slangasek: have you ever seen dconf-service hang on login | 22:04 |
| slangasek | blkperl: no. I assume this is running against an NFS homedir? ;) | 22:43 |
| slangasek | blkperl: don't look at who's assigned to implement https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-xdg-runtime-dir | 22:44 |
| blkperl | slangasek: I found a ticket https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/d-conf/+bug/645448 | 22:44 |
| lubotu1 | Launchpad bug 645448 in d-conf (Ubuntu) "dconf doesn't support NFS" [Medium,Triaged] | 22:44 |
| slangasek | heh | 22:44 |
| blkperl | slangasek: so if we point XDG_CACE at /tmp or something it seems to allow login | 22:48 |
| blkperl | XDG_CACHE* | 22:48 |
| blkperl | we think that the homedir doesn't mount until in late in the login process which is why it just hangs in kernel land | 22:48 |
| slangasek | oh? | 22:49 |
| slangasek | are you using autofs? | 22:49 |
| blkperl | yes | 22:50 |
| slangasek | ah | 22:50 |
| slangasek | so yeah, autofs was something of a blind spot while implementing upstart boot-time filesystem handling | 22:50 |
| slangasek | essentially because the last time I tried to use it 8 years ago, it was crap, and I assumed everyone else had reached the same conclusion and only tested /etc/fstab-based mounting ;) | 22:51 |
| slangasek | I know there've been a couple of escalated bugs recently about autofs support, but I don't know where those got to | 22:51 |
| blkperl | well we use autofs because we can't have 5000 homedirs mounted at the same time on 200 nodes :) | 22:51 |
| blkperl | if you can point me to those autofs bugs that would be great | 22:52 |
| slangasek | right, but you could have a single /home mounted everywhere ;) | 22:52 |
| slangasek | but yeah, I realize this doesn't scale out | 22:52 |
| slangasek | looking now to see if there are any autofs SRUs that have gone through recently | 22:53 |
| slangasek | blkperl: there've been recent autofs SRUs for lucid and natty, but I'm pretty sure it's not related to what you're seeing | 23:00 |
| blkperl | slangasek: do you see any pitfalls with using /tmp for XDG_CACHE? This workaround seems to work | 23:03 |
| slangasek | blkperl: I couldn't say | 23:03 |
| slangasek | based on conversations at the last UDS I think later versions of dconf may have addressed this, but I'm not sure how | 23:04 |
| blkperl | I made a bug 1046079 if your interested in commenting | 23:06 |
| lubotu1 | Launchpad bug 1046079 in d-conf (Ubuntu) "dconf-service hangs on login with nfs mounted homedir" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046079 | 23:06 |
| slangasek | commenting is almost certain to get me nag mail from the desktop team about XDG_RUNTIME_DIR support not being done yet ;P | 23:07 |
| slangasek | how about if I just work on that | 23:07 |
| blkperl | yeah that sounds great :) | 23:07 |
| nibalizer | :) | 23:37 |
| nathwill | blkperl: i might suggest /var/tmp | 23:40 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: you going to hack day on saturday at puppetlabs? | 23:40 |
| nathwill | instead of /tmp, as it's guaranteed to remain present until reboot | 23:40 |
| nathwill | whereas /tmp may be purged... | 23:40 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: Kitsune is alive http://15.185.226.243:8000/en-US/home | 23:40 |
| bkerensa | :D | 23:40 |
| blkperl | nathwill: that doesn't solve the problem of users on multiple hosts at the same time | 23:41 |
| blkperl | they changes hosts a lot and because nfs is broken.... | 23:41 |
| blkperl | bkerensa: what hack day? | 23:41 |
| blkperl | bkerensa: calagator link? | 23:41 |
| bkerensa | blkperl: MFNW+PDX | 23:41 |
| bkerensa | http://calagator.org/events/1250462748 | 23:42 |
| nathwill | blkperl, i was suggesting a better location for XDG_CACHE than /tmp | 23:42 |
| nathwill | but i see what you're saying... i seem to remember a bug about dconf and nfs homes, and the solution being to change the boot order... | 23:42 |
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