| Kilos | hi superfly magespawn and others | 04:53 |
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| superfly | morning Kilos | 04:58 |
| jrgns | hi all | 04:59 |
| Kilos | hi jrgns | 04:59 |
| jrgns | you good? | 04:59 |
| Kilos | yip ty and you? | 04:59 |
| Kilos | always good, even when im naughty im good at it | 05:00 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 05:04 |
| Kilos | morning inetpro | 05:05 |
| Kilos | sjoe youre early | 05:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'm always early | 05:05 |
| Kilos | hehe | 05:05 |
| inetpro | except when I'm late | 05:05 |
| Kilos | here is one for you clever guys. i have a network cable but ian said it must go through a router or something because both plugs are connected the same | 05:10 |
| Kilos | i want to know if switcheng the tx and rx pairs will give same performance or does a router boost the signal | 05:11 |
| Kilos | i only have the one cable and want to try connecting 2 pcs | 05:14 |
| Squirm | morning | 05:16 |
| Squirm | meh, slept in today | 05:16 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 05:17 |
| Digi||Gram | Kilos most new ethernet cards can handle a straight cable I hear. Tradisionally you need a cross over so that the Tx sends from one pc to the Rx on another | 05:42 |
| Digi||Gram | a router, switch or hub does this switching for you, so traditionally you need a straight cable for that, but new one's know how to switch straight or cross over cables | 05:43 |
| === Digi||Gram is now known as DigiGram | ||
| Kilos | ty Digi||Gram so theres nothing special the router does. apart from switching connections | 05:43 |
| Kilos | new ones what? | 05:44 |
| DigiGram | well that and it boosts the signal. You are working with a signal around 5V, so after 100m it drops to low to be usable, on cheap cables and hardware it happens after about 30m, then you need a hub/switch/router to boost the power again | 05:45 |
| Kilos | i got old pcs so should i cut the cable and switch those 2 pairs | 05:45 |
| Kilos | dont wanna blow anything | 05:45 |
| DigiGram | well try it first | 05:45 |
| Kilos | oh it wont damage anything if not swopped | 05:45 |
| DigiGram | you won't blow anything, plug it in, if the green LED lights up at both PC's where you plugged the cable in, then you are in business | 05:45 |
| DigiGram | nah, Tx sends, Rx receives. If you send to a send port it will be fine, he is used to the voltage, but can't read anything | 05:46 |
| Kilos | ah ty lemme check it out | 05:47 |
| Kilos | was scared of blowing something | 05:47 |
| DigiGram | Well not as far as I know | 05:48 |
| Kilos | aw no green light | 06:07 |
| Kilos | murphy lives here | 06:07 |
| DigiGram | then you will need a cross-over cable, or you need to cross yours | 06:08 |
| Kilos | i will cut and crossover, thanks | 06:09 |
| Kilos | hiya maiatoday | 06:28 |
| maiatoday | hi Kilos | 06:36 |
| Kilos | whew DigiGram what a business. changed cards and this one shows green light | 06:48 |
| Kilos | older pc with network card in and this one connected to mb connector | 06:49 |
| Kilos | no light on mb to see | 06:49 |
| DigiGram | no light? I have only seen that on laptops | 06:51 |
| Kilos | lol this mb has the socket to plug in but no light | 06:52 |
| DigiGram | weird | 06:52 |
| DigiGram | well, then you have to keep an eye on the desktop notifications | 06:52 |
| Kilos | hehe. other pc shows connected. but this one keeps trying to connect | 07:01 |
| Kilos | maybe one mustnt be auto connect | 07:02 |
| DigiGram | ubuntu or XP? | 07:03 |
| Kilos | in the ipv6 settings i made it automatic dhcp only and now shows connected | 07:09 |
| Kilos | dunno what that means but we are connected | 07:10 |
| DigiGram | it just means one PC will give an IP and the other will listen | 07:10 |
| DigiGram | normally I make them both manual so I can choose IP's, but it's your choice | 07:10 |
| DigiGram | if you need the IP, you can get it with ifconfig in ubuntu or ipconfig in winblows | 07:11 |
| Kilos | i dont use winsucks | 07:11 |
| DigiGram | just making sure lol | 07:11 |
| Kilos | that listening bit. does that mean the other one is the boss? | 07:12 |
| Kilos | or is that just to connect | 07:12 |
| DigiGram | just for the connection | 07:12 |
| Kilos | great | 07:13 |
| Kilos | ty | 07:13 |
| Kilos | hi charlvn | 07:47 |
| Kilos | you been scarce | 07:48 |
| charlvn | hi Kilos | 08:13 |
| charlvn | yeah i have been busy | 08:13 |
| charlvn | how's it going | 08:13 |
| Kilos | ok and there | 08:15 |
| DigiGram | Git for noobs, what other howto's assume you know --> http://beinganengineer3.blogspot.com/2012/09/git-for-noobs.html | 13:15 |
| DigiGram | I'm still getting the hang of this blogging thing, so excuse the poor layout, and the, uhm, wandering off point | 13:16 |
| charlvn | DigiGram: nice | 13:21 |
| charlvn | Maaz: tell kilos sorry for not responding, got busy again, but it's going fine thanks | 13:21 |
| Maaz | charlvn: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 13:21 |
| DigiGram | I started with git yesterday, so the info in there is for total n00bs | 13:21 |
| charlvn | DigiGram: that's a good time to write a noob howto :) | 13:22 |
| DigiGram | normally it is, because I could see what the other howto's assume you know | 13:22 |
| DigiGram | (and I didn't know lol) | 13:23 |
| charlvn | DigiGram: i also found git to be a bit of a mind-shift away from svn, especially since i used cvs before that | 13:23 |
| DigiGram | well, up until now I've worked in a folder, zipped it once a day to upload to google drive, and that was my management system lol | 13:23 |
| charlvn | crude but effective | 13:25 |
| DigiGram | lol | 13:26 |
| DigiGram | And working at home on some of it meant just downloading the zip, deleting the old stuff, and afterwards uploading the zip again. effective, but I want something better | 13:27 |
| charlvn | it's ok if you find a system that works for you as an individual but as soon as you want to start working with a larger group of developers you have a problem | 13:27 |
| charlvn | it's also extremely handy to be able to get a good overview of all the changes on a per-file basis | 13:28 |
| DigiGram | yeah, so I want to keep with the times lol | 13:29 |
| charlvn | well i can tell you one thing, if you go into an interview for a job as a developer, at least knowing one or two version control systems is an advantage | 13:30 |
| charlvn | probably any half-decent development company will use at least one type of version control system | 13:30 |
| DigiGram | yeah well, nobody will hire me as a developer lol | 13:31 |
| charlvn | lol ok | 13:32 |
| charlvn | ok i am off bbl | 13:34 |
| Symmetria | *sigh* | 13:42 |
| Symmetria | this country and its BBBEE rules | 13:42 |
| Symmetria | are stupid and a pain in the ass | 13:42 |
| DigiGram | lol | 13:43 |
| Symmetria | I had to spend THOUSANDS getting documentation to show that I was actually allowed to do business with certain people | 13:43 |
| Symmetria | (if your turnover is less than X, you are automatically certified with a black economic empowerment status level) | 13:43 |
| Symmetria | problem is gonna come next year when I go well over that turnover level | 13:44 |
| Kilos | hmm | 13:46 |
| Kilos | the trials and tribulations of the idle rich | 13:46 |
| Kilos | Symmetria, be like the rest of them, a coupla backhands gets you anything | 13:47 |
| superfly | DigiGram: if you want to deal with the pain in the nether regions, you should use git-flow. if you want to use a more sane version control, you can try bzr | 13:53 |
| DigiGram | I tried bzr onces, quickly decided to rather use my zip file again lol | 13:53 |
| DigiGram | I'll try git-flow, but I'm liking git for my purpouses currently | 13:53 |
| superfly | git-flow is a plugin that works on top of git to make it vaguely useable | 13:54 |
| superfly | dunno why you think git is easier than bzr, since bzr is much simpler | 13:55 |
| DigiGram | nah, maybe I had another issue with it and just stopped. maybe I just had more patience when I tried git | 13:55 |
| Kilos | Symmetria, no dont | 13:56 |
| Squirm | afternoon | 13:59 |
| Squirm | hmm, couldnt get this pinning thing | 13:59 |
| Squirm | hmm, foubd the man page | 14:02 |
| === DigiGram is now known as Digi||Gram | ||
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 15:29 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| inetpro | good evenings | 16:19 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 16:20 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sup? | 16:20 |
| inetpro | what did I miss today? | 16:20 |
| Kilos | temp for a while | 16:20 |
| Kilos | bad again thursday | 16:20 |
| inetpro | huh? | 16:20 |
| Kilos | i wasnt on all day | 16:20 |
| Kilos | they say thursday gonna be freezing again | 16:21 |
| inetpro | ahh | 16:21 |
| Kilos | whats news your side | 16:22 |
| * inetpro been busy afk today | 16:22 | |
| Kilos | everyone busy busy busy | 16:22 |
| inetpro | eish, I see Thursday might be very cold again | 16:23 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:23 |
| inetpro | oh and Friday worse | 16:23 |
| Kilos | oh my | 16:23 |
| inetpro | and Saturday even ,more so | 16:23 |
| * Kilos cries. was just starting to warm up | 16:23 | |
| inetpro | well I hope we'll get some rains | 16:24 |
| inetpro | looks like it may even start raining tomorrow | 16:24 |
| Kilos | we need rain very very bad | 16:27 |
| Kilos | ran the hosepipe a few times and after an hour its only wet like 2 feet and then soaks away | 16:28 |
| Symmetria | was raining here last night | 16:42 |
| Symmetria | no rain today but holy hell its cold | 16:42 |
| Symmetria | lol, anyone here run dlink home equipment? | 16:43 |
| Symmetria | here is a hint... don't try multicast through it :p | 16:43 |
| Kerbero | lol | 16:48 |
| Kerbero | i'm not surprised | 16:48 |
| Kerbero | i have a dlink 5port gigabit switch | 16:48 |
| Kerbero | not using it atm | 16:48 |
| Symmetria | Kerbero lol, we tested it with 4 different delink devices | 16:48 |
| Symmetria | oops I mean dlink :p | 16:48 |
| Symmetria | the longest time we managed without the device rebooting was 7 minutes | 16:49 |
| Symmetria | :P | 16:49 |
| Symmetria | the shortest was 3 minutes | 16:49 |
| Kerbero | lol | 16:49 |
| Kerbero | don't they just broadcast the multicast packets? | 16:49 |
| Symmetria | no, they reboot themselves | 16:50 |
| Symmetria | :p | 16:50 |
| Kerbero | ai ai | 16:50 |
| Kerbero | i should try it with mine | 16:50 |
| Kerbero | multicast has been defined a long time ago | 16:51 |
| Kerbero | why does so little stuff support it correctly | 16:51 |
| Kerbero | *few | 16:51 |
| Tonberry | *little | 16:52 |
| Kerbero | ai | 16:52 |
| Symmetria | heh its supported at a lan type level on any proper corporate lan switch | 16:52 |
| Kerbero | :( | 16:52 |
| Symmetria | on a wan layer / internet layer, *shrug* its viewed as a dark art that only academics are stupid enough to play with | 16:52 |
| Symmetria | :p | 16:52 |
| Tonberry | few things dalk | 16:52 |
| Kerbero | Symmetria: is there a way i can dial a vpn to one of your routers to get routed ipv6 to experiment with? | 16:53 |
| Symmetria | Kerbero no, your best bet is to use the free vpn's from HE | 16:54 |
| Kerbero | HE? | 16:54 |
| Symmetria | hurricane electric | 16:55 |
| Kerbero | ahh | 16:55 |
| Symmetria | google for hurricane electric tunnel broker | 16:55 |
| Symmetria | :) | 16:55 |
| Trixar_za | What? | 16:55 |
| Kerbero | o that is perfect | 16:56 |
| Trixar_za | Oh, thought it was like Do a Barrel Roll | 16:57 |
| Trixar_za | or tilt and askew | 16:58 |
| Cantide | boot-repair worked for me tonight | 17:15 |
| Cantide | note to self: stop kicking your HDD's while your PC is on | 17:15 |
| Kerbero | this is not going to work :( | 17:24 |
| Kerbero | to get internet access i have to use a proxy server | 17:24 |
| Kerbero | and it does not seem like tunnelbroker supports a proxy like openvpn does | 17:24 |
| Kilos | Cantide, boot-repair is tricky if you have more than one drive and take the second one out to use somewhere else | 17:34 |
| Cantide | i removed my Windoze HDD before trying it out | 17:36 |
| Cantide | i can just plug it back in and change boot options in my bios if need be | 17:36 |
| Cantide | but i haven't used Windoze in a few months :p no loss | 17:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:36 |
| Kilos | if you do it with 2 linux drives and want to use the second one in another machine give me a shout first | 17:39 |
| Kilos | there is a trick to doing it | 17:40 |
| Cantide | haha | 17:41 |
| Cantide | okay, will do :p | 17:41 |
| Kilos | im serious | 17:41 |
| Cantide | i only have one linux OS drive | 17:41 |
| Cantide | and one storage drive | 17:41 |
| Kilos | ah | 17:41 |
| Cantide | chances are i will keep it this way | 17:41 |
| Kilos | i have 3 | 17:41 |
| Kilos | what i really like about ubuntu is one is able to remove a drive and use it in another machine without hassles | 17:47 |
| Kilos | try that with winsucks | 17:47 |
| Cantide | :p | 17:48 |
| Cantide | that's what's awesome about installing it on a usb drive | 17:49 |
| Cantide | not that i have as yet | 17:49 |
| magespawn | evening all | 18:01 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn | 18:02 |
| magespawn | howdy Kilos | 18:02 |
| magespawn | i have run laptops from the flash drive before | 18:03 |
| magespawn | just to tack than on to the end of your guys converstion | 18:04 |
| Cantide | hi :) | 18:04 |
| Cantide | and how well did it work? | 18:04 |
| Kilos | i will get me a nice fat stick one of these days and give it a go | 18:04 |
| Kilos | aw kbmonkey is gone | 18:06 |
| Cantide | I have an 8 GB USB 3 one, it's a good candidate... | 18:07 |
| Kilos | haai nuvolari het hy darem pos geantwoord | 18:07 |
| Kilos | yeah 8g is fine | 18:07 |
| Kilos | im running 11.04 on a 6g ide drive | 18:08 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | yo trixie | 18:09 |
| magespawn | Cantide this was sometime ago about two years, think was a 4gb but not sure, and except for running out of space and a slight loss of speed it worked fine | 18:11 |
| magespawn | if you can use an esata drive you should not see and difference. | 18:12 |
| magespawn | brb fish bedtime | 18:12 |
| Cantide | :) | 18:12 |
| magespawn | right back | 18:24 |
| superfly | my eldest is sick :-( | 18:25 |
| magespawn | not too bad hopefully? | 18:27 |
| * smile4 hugs super | 18:28 | |
| smile4 | * superfly | 18:28 |
| superfly | magespawn: just a cold, but a bit of a nasty one at that | 18:28 |
| magespawn | how old now superfly? | 18:28 |
| Kilos | aw superfly thats not good | 18:29 |
| Kilos | flu? | 18:29 |
| Cantide | superflu | 18:29 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, just a cold | 18:29 |
| Kilos | unhehy place the cape | 18:29 |
| Kilos | unheahy | 18:29 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:29 |
| Kilos | unhealthy | 18:30 |
| smile4 | see ya tomorrow again | 18:32 |
| nuvolari | aloha :> | 18:32 |
| smile4 | i'm leaving | 18:32 |
| nuvolari | howdy oom Kilos | 18:32 |
| nuvolari | cheers smile4 | 18:32 |
| smile4 | good luck with your eldest, superfly | 18:32 |
| nuvolari | howdy superfly, Cantide | 18:32 |
| Cantide | hey nuvolari :) | 18:32 |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari | 18:32 |
| Cantide | bye smile4 'o' | 18:32 |
| smile4 | :o | 18:32 |
| nuvolari | is there anyone that can give me some guidance on sars efiling? | 18:32 |
| Kilos | sleep tight smile4 | 18:32 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:32 |
| nuvolari | I registered, but that's it. Nothing else makes sense | 18:32 |
| superfly | nuvolari: done it a few times, use the Flash interface | 18:32 |
| superfly | nuvolari: uh, can you log in? | 18:33 |
| * nuvolari is a noob when it comes to tax | 18:33 | |
| nuvolari | superfly: yeah | 18:33 |
| superfly | nuvolari: then you should be greeted with a page that says, "Income tax work page" | 18:38 |
| superfly | on that page you'll see a list of returns at the bottom | 18:38 |
| superfly | where it says, "return type" you'll probably have an entry labeled "ITR12" | 18:38 |
| superfly | if you click on that link, it opens up the return for you | 18:38 |
| nuvolari | hmm, my results are empty | 18:40 |
| nuvolari | I'll go ask the lady at finance tomorrow. Tax is all greek to me :-/ | 18:42 |
| nuvolari | I'm just worried that I will get in trouble | 18:42 |
| magespawn | if make mistakes you do get to correct them i think | 18:45 |
| magespawn | battery is dying, no electricity last night, good night all. | 18:48 |
| Kilos | night magespawn | 18:49 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 18:49 |
| nuvolari | night oom Kilos | 18:49 |
| magespawn | lol | 18:49 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:49 |
| nuvolari | oh | 18:49 |
| nuvolari | night magespawn :P | 18:49 |
| Kilos | hes chasing me | 18:49 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:50 |
| Kilos | ok ek sal gaan slaap man nuvolari | 18:50 |
| nuvolari | nee nee, oom kan bly | 18:50 |
| Kilos | night all of you. sleep tight | 18:50 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 18:50 |
| Kilos | dis laterig | 18:50 |
| nuvolari | oh :-/ | 18:50 |
| nuvolari | night oom Kilos | 18:50 |
| nuvolari | lekker slaap :) | 18:51 |
| Kilos | lekker slaap seun | 18:51 |
| Kilos | haai nuvolari | 18:51 |
| Kilos | is ma hulle daar | 18:51 |
| nuvolari | ja oom! | 18:51 |
| nuvolari | ek eet soos 'n koning :P | 18:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:51 |
| nuvolari | hulle het darm veilig gery | 18:51 |
| Kilos | stuur groete en se ma moet daai resep probeer | 18:51 |
| Symmetria | lol | 19:18 |
| Symmetria | I just got a call | 19:19 |
| Symmetria | asking me if I could be in prague next week | 19:19 |
| Symmetria | :p | 19:19 |
| Banlam | so you said yes | 19:29 |
| Symmetria | heh prague should be fun | 19:29 |
| Symmetria | :p | 19:29 |
| Symmetria | beautiful women :p | 19:29 |
| Banlam | :) | 19:30 |
| Banlam | what languag do they speak? | 19:30 |
| Cantide | good night! | 19:30 |
| Banlam | is czech a language? | 19:30 |
| nuvolari | money I guess | 19:30 |
| nuvolari | :P | 19:30 |
| Symmetria | hahahaha nuvolari got it right | 19:32 |
| Banlam | lol | 19:38 |
| Banlam | "lots of hot czech woman want to marry YOU" | 19:38 |
| Kerbero | lol | 21:56 |
| Kerbero | don't underestimate the czechs | 21:56 |
| Kerbero | they have really good beer | 21:56 |
| Kerbero | and the czech republic is very far away from russia :P | 21:57 |
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