[00:00] <GridCube> BHO1, have you tried the fn keys?
[00:01] <BHO1> GridCube , Fn+<What key?>
[00:01] <GridCube> the brightness one?
[00:02] <GridCube> in my case they are f7 and f8
[00:02] <knome> BHO1, usually has a "sun" symbol in it; on my laptop, it's f3 for brightness+
[00:02] <pinkfrost> on my netbook it's the right arrow
[00:03] <BHO1> it was F8 for me....but thanks guys i found it
[00:03] <GridCube> see, BHO1 i cant tell what jkey is yours
[00:03] <GridCube> does it work=
[00:03] <BHO1> Yes, it is fixed
[00:04] <BHO1> Thanks guys, sorry for such a stupid question.
[00:04] <unheeding> safe mode gets to "crcdisk.sys" and hangs
[00:05] <unheeding> oops it loaded
[00:06] <unheeding> all right, in safe mode i'm having the same problem (ping works, browsers do not)  any other ideas?
[00:07] <unheeding> oooh
[00:07] <unheeding> actually, in safe mode the ping does not work
[00:07] <unheeding> this is safe mode with networking
[00:08] <unheeding> "error code 1231" ping fails
[00:09] <unheeding> wooops
[00:09] <unheeding> i'm sorry, wrong window
[00:10]  * unheeding is so embarassed
[00:42] <xubuntu548> good evening!
[00:43] <xubuntu548> im trying this for the whole day, does anybody know how could i export the mouse theme to another distro?
[00:45] <xubuntu548> no one?
[00:45] <xubuntu548> im trying this for the whole day, does anybody know how could i export the mouse theme to another distro?
[00:45] <knome> !patience
[00:45] <knome> please, you waited for 2 minutes
[00:46] <knome> xubuntu548, the default theme is at /usr/share/icons/DMZ-White - that's what you need to copy.
[00:47] <xubuntu548> thanks
[00:50] <xubuntu548> ... a lot!
[01:43] <devnill> I'd like to make compiz my default wm. Where can I change it so I don't need to type the command at each login?
[01:49] <unheeding> okay, everytime I click a link to open it in my browser, it opens in google-chrome, and then it gives me an error message
[01:49] <unheeding> failed to execute default web browser input output error
[01:54] <unheeding> okay it was google-chrome-unstable
[01:54] <unheeding> beta works :)
[04:02] <rensoski> hi. i cant remember the name of a program, is like a catalog with a lots of game, the name is 3 letters. like dlc lcd irl or something, any remember ?
[04:09] <rensoski> i find it, is DJL
[04:38] <xubuntu998> Hello.
[04:45] <hanslanda> Hello guys, i found a script over the internet to turn off mouse acceleration to improve my skills on a fps game, and it worked...but when i open the game it dont recognize the script i think...and im getting mouse acceleration in game. does anybody know why? (sorry about bad english)
[05:17] <xubuntu053> hello guys! I'm pretty new to xubuntu. I'm having trouble with the command prompt when you disable X. When I enter it via alt+ctrl+f3 it just spams something about edid and unknown nouveau l2c 48 port, something similar. I've been trying to install Nvidia driver for my laptop but the spamming renders the terminal useless
[05:18] <unheeding> have you tried a different terminal?
[05:18] <xubuntu053> how?
[05:19] <unheeding> alt+ctrl+f1?
[05:19] <xubuntu053> it does the same
[05:19] <unheeding> ahh
[05:21] <xubuntu053> I have googled around a bit and i seems these errors are usually caused by graphics ports or drivers
[05:21] <xubuntu053> I think it might have to do with my screen being 3d
[06:01] <zeus`> Hi
[07:28] <devnill> Has anyone found a frequency scaling application that has a graphic notification
[08:40] <xubuntu172> hi
[08:41] <xubuntu172> whats is more faster lxde or xfce ?
[08:46] <ochosi> xubuntu172: it's pretty much the same. there's a diff between xubuntu and lubuntu though
[08:57] <Sandra888> I'm installing xubuntu on a dual boot mini mac, and I can't configure partition properly, how to set mount point and so on using gparted?
[09:26] <magi> hi i have a problem in xubuntu boot time about 65sec checked with boot chart how to reduce it
[09:26] <magi> hi i have a problem in xubuntu boot time about 65sec checked with boot chart how to reduce it
[09:27] <Unit193> !repeat | magi
[09:27] <magi> ok
[09:50] <livingdaylight> zooboontoo forces updates on me even though I don't use Thunderbird, for instance, at all - not even configured
[09:53] <Unit193> Doesn't exactly "force", but since you have it installed of course it'll update it.  If you don't want it, uninstall it.
[10:47] <alz> anyone install xubuntu on an aspire d270?
[10:47] <alz> netbook
[10:48] <alz> I'm thinking of installing it onto one but I'd like to know if anyone here has had a positive experience
[10:48] <alz> with it
[11:28] <livingdaylight> Unit193, I say 'force' because if I untic that box it comes back saying there are packages to be installed
[11:29] <livingdaylight> I would be happy to uninstall thunderbird to stay with the example, but it is probabl part of a metapackage which doens't let me. Would be nice if ubunt uwas more modular and oen can just install what one actually used and wanted
[12:05] <dystopiandrift> good morning internet. would someone help me to configure blueproximity? everything works fine, I just need a screen locker that will unlock without a password being entered. I don't know how to configure or register or whatever PAM modules for xscreensaver / bluetooth proximity..
[12:37] <xubuntu611> Hi
[12:37] <xubuntu611> Why is the Xubuntu 12.04.1 32bit ISO of 715MB when in download it shows to be of 682MB?
[12:37] <xubuntu611> I am unable to write it on a CS :(
[12:37] <xubuntu611> CD*
[12:38] <xubuntu611> Wanted to install it on a persons laptop that doesn't support booting from USB and only has cd rom drive
[12:40] <xubuntu611> Any help?
[12:46] <baizon> have you tried it?
[12:47] <dystopiandrift> I had a similar issue with xubuntu for ppc, I found a forum post telling you how to trim some stuff from the iso to make it fit, but it work for me but it might work for you.. I'll look for it for you..
[12:48] <dystopiandrift> also you can set your burner to 'overburn' but your software / hardware has to support it..
[12:50] <dystopiandrift> I found this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870829 there are links that may help you
[12:54] <knome> xubuntu611, maybe there's an error on your download.
[13:19] <xubuntu611> Sorry
[13:19] <xubuntu611> I was away for salat
[13:19] <xubuntu611> I am on the webirc
[13:20] <xubuntu611> I have checked the dowload both the direct download and torrent
[13:20] <xubuntu611> same result
[13:22] <xubuntu611> here http://imgur.com/prVhv
[13:23] <xubuntu611> simmilarly Xubuntu 12.04 is of 713MB
[13:26] <xubuntu611> Going off now
[13:27] <xubuntu611> Thanks for the help anyways
[13:27] <knome> where did you download it from?
[13:27] <knome> oh well
[14:55] <livingdaylight> using gparted to clean wipe my usb I'm getting this error: file:///home/rahan/Downloads/gparted_details.htm
[14:56] <holstein> livingdaylight: thats linking local.. can you pastebin the error message?
[14:56] <holstein> !paste
[14:56] <livingdaylight> sorry
[14:57] <livingdaylight> holstein, http://clip2net.com/s/2gHI8
[14:58] <holstein> livingdaylight: sometimes, i just pull them out... unfortunately, those messages can also mean the device is going bad
[14:58] <livingdaylight> holstein, that's bad news.
[14:58] <holstein> livingdaylight: i would try unmounting... then i would move on to forcefully removing it, maybe even after shutting down the machine
[14:59] <holstein> i would then try right when the stick gets pushed in... not mounting it, just going on to formatting
[14:59] <livingdaylight> it gets mounted automatically, though?
[15:00] <holstein> livingdaylight: shouldnt.. they "show up" automatically by default
[15:00] <holstein> if you dont click or mount, it should just be sitting there ready for gparted to mount it
[15:01] <holstein> i would try plugging the USB, then the very next thing would be the formatting step... not clicking or mounting
[15:01] <livingdaylight> usually, use unetbootin to put bootable isos on in. But was told unetbootin doesn't work with hybrids and used the dd if=isopath.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=M1 command
[15:01] <livingdaylight> since then this has become an issue
[15:01] <holstein> livingdaylight: unet will work
[15:01] <holstein> livingdaylight: its a hybrid iso
[15:01] <livingdaylight> what is a hybrid iso?
[15:01] <holstein> livingdaylight: you can directly copy it over to a stick, and it'll "work"
[15:02] <holstein> livingdaylight: you dd copy it over and its a live USB stick
[15:02] <livingdaylight> dd?
[15:02] <holstein> its also still the type of iso that unet should work with
[15:02] <livingdaylight> what is the type of iso that unet should work with?
[15:02] <holstein> livingdaylight: when you said "i used the dd if..." thats dd
[15:03] <livingdaylight> oh, the dd command ok
[15:03] <holstein> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[15:03] <holstein> livingdaylight: the hybrid iso can be used directly copied over, in addition to the way it used to work.. burning it to CD.. using unet.. .whatever
[15:03] <holstein> livingdaylight: if you want to use unet just as you always have, use it.. i do
[15:04] <livingdaylight> it doesn't work with all isos. Hybrid isos don't work with unetbootin I was told
[15:04] <holstein> livingdaylight: you can try it.. it literally wont hurt, and its worked for me
[15:04] <livingdaylight> which is why i used the dd command and then it did work, but now experiencing issues with usb
[15:04] <holstein> livingdaylight: i wasnt told that.. i just fired up unet and made a USB stick
[15:04] <livingdaylight> holstein, you're not listening
[15:05] <holstein> livingdaylight: i am.. you "heard" the hybrid isos dont work with unet.. and i have used hybrid iso's both ways
[15:05] <holstein> livingdaylight: if you are experiencing an issue using dd, just do it the way you are used to doing it
[15:06] <livingdaylight> it is my experience that this particular hybrid iso did not work with unetbootin, so, no need to keep encouraging me to go ahead. I already did and failed. When I was shown to use the dd command it worked. Great, just now I have usb issues, due to it going or what, I don't know
[15:07] <holstein> livingdaylight: cool.. you can elaborate about your issues.. the one above looks like you are trying to access the disk with gparted while its "busy"
[15:08] <holstein> i would expect it to work this way... you dd copy the iso to a clean USB stick, and reboot using it... what was the issue at that point?
[15:08] <livingdaylight> I've had a few iso not work with unetbootin so, now I have a conceptual background to understanding why that might be, coz I've just been using unetbootin all this time on all isos. Clearly, however, unetbootin doesn't work universally
[15:09] <livingdaylight> i would expect it to work this way... you dd copy the iso to a clean USB stick, and reboot using it... what was the issue at that point? No issue at this point the live usb worked
[15:10] <holstein> livingdaylight: cool.. then where did the issue happen? after you tried to format it in gparted?
[15:10] <livingdaylight> you can elaborate about your issues.. the one above looks like you are trying to access the disk with gparted while its "busy" <-- after getting it to work and testing live-usb I try to dd another iso to the usb but its no longer working. I used gparted to delete and reformat the usb with the intention of trying it with unetbootin this time but that is when the issue arose of not being able to create a clean usb s
[15:10] <livingdaylight> tick
[15:11] <holstein> livingdaylight: i would try from a clean insert like i had suggested.. and also, try the stick on other machines.. it could be that the USB is failing
[15:11] <livingdaylight> cool.. then where did the issue happen? after you tried to format it in gparted? <--- essentially, yes. After I was finished with the live-usb
[15:12] <livingdaylight> yea, already tried on both the laptop and Desktop, i.e. two machines with same frustration
[15:14] <livingdaylight> no point trying a command-line approach to deleting usb using 'rm' command or purge or something? if gparted isn't doing it then its not happening is it?
[15:15] <holstein> livingdaylight: you can try it.. i would try, as i suggested, right when you plug the stick in.. not mounting or clicking
[15:15] <holstein> livingdaylight: it literally wont hurt to try in the CLI, and you might see more helpful output
[15:15] <livingdaylight> can you please tell me how to do it in the command line?
[15:15] <livingdaylight> cd to /dev/sdc ?
[15:16] <livingdaylight> sudo rm contents?
[15:16] <livingdaylight> sudo rm -rf?
[15:16] <holstein> livingdaylight: this is what i would reference... http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/linux-format-your-usb-drive-via-command.html
[15:17] <livingdaylight> k, thx holstein
[15:17] <Vinc3nD> Hi, i have a bug with my mouse in xubuntu when i move a window selecting the title bar
[15:17] <holstein> livingdaylight: i woudnt bother rm'ing anything.. that could be the step that is hanging up on you
[15:18] <holstein> livingdaylight: could be the stick is failing.. unet should have worked fine... there are no non-hybrid live isos AFAIK, so the ones unet downloads will be hybrid
[15:18] <holstein> the fact that unet didnt work supports the theory that the stick is failing
[15:18] <holstein> Vinc3nD: whats the bug id?
[15:18] <Vinc3nD> the window moves herself to the extremity of the screen
[15:18] <livingdaylight> well, that is the explanation I got for mageia not booting up in my live-usb created using Unetbootin
[15:19] <holstein> livingdaylight: i do not use mageia.. maybe that iso doesnt work
[15:19] <livingdaylight> holstein, well, now you know of one hybrid iso that doesn't work using Unetbootin
[15:20] <holstein> livingdaylight: in my searching, and actual findings "Hybrid ISOs are still compatible with Unetbootin"
[15:20] <holstein> livingdaylight: either that one doesnt work, or it failed due to the stick failing
[15:20] <livingdaylight> holstein, had they [mageia crowd] told me it should have worked with Unetbootin I might have also begun thinking that the issue lies therefore with my usb stick
[15:21] <holstein> livingdaylight: doesnt really matter.. you'll need to determine if your stick is failing, and try formatting it... good luck!
[15:23] <Vinc3nD> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/29970 this bug
[15:23] <Shirakawasuna> I get this issue in xubuntu, but not ubuntu: Every so often (maybe 1/4 of the time?), suspend no longer works - if I close my laptop lid (the only way I ever suspend), it doesn't do anything - *maybe* it logs me out, sometimes, which is also very annoying (I assume that it's X crashing). At that point, even clicking on the 'suspend' option in the menu doesn't do anything and my 'I'm suspending' light flashes but goes nowhere.
[15:23] <holstein> Vinc3nD: have you found of made an ubuntu bug?
[15:23] <Shirakawasuna> the weirdest thing to me is that this only happens when I'm using xubuntu-desktop, not ubuntu-desktop
[15:24] <Vinc3nD> this bug exist on xubuntu, i use it
[15:24] <holstein> Vinc3nD: and you have filed or found the bug on launchpad?
[15:24] <Vinc3nD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1908474
[15:25] <holstein> Vinc3nD: im sure that would be helpful.. if you just wanted to get a proper report going and follow up on it
[15:26] <holstein> Vinc3nD: you could bring up that patch in the bugreport... have you tried the patch?
[15:26] <Vinc3nD> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir2IDxFKBFA this bug in movie
[15:26] <Vinc3nD> not tried a patch
[15:27] <Vinc3nD> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1001936
[15:28] <holstein> Vinc3nD: i would just upgrade and try using that patch, and follow up there on that report if it doesnt help resolve the issue for you
[15:29] <holstein> Shirakawasuna: i would look at what powermanagment unity is using, and what XFCE is using.. i know you can use gnome services in XFCE, and im not sure how much of the same parts you will need that unity is using
[15:32] <Vinc3nD> i need to patch source to fix this bug, not an easy solution
[15:35] <gajen> hello, i've just installed xubuntu 12.04 and i chose to encrypt the home folder. when the installation was done, a notification(?) popped up, saying something about a passphrase, encryption, and the home folder. i ignored it at the time and i'm worried it's something important. i don't know where to find what it said again. any ideas?
[15:36] <livingdaylight> installed gnome-format but its not launching?
[15:43] <livingdaylight> I thought I made progress by deleting and reformatting usb, but now I'm getting error that usb is not mounted, even though Thunar said it was when I inserted the usb device - http://clip2net.com/s/2gIie
[15:43] <holstein> livingdaylight: you can try launching from the terminal and see the error output
[15:43] <livingdaylight> launching how?
[15:43] <holstein> it = gnome-format
[15:43] <holstein> though, gparted is the tool i would use
[15:44] <livingdaylight> no, I just used gparted - its reformatted now
[15:44] <holstein> livingdaylight: unet has requirements like that.. that the drive be mounted for the transfer
[15:44] <gajen> i think it was one of those 'run this action now' windows
[15:44] <livingdaylight> I'm getting the its not mounted message from Unetbootin, although THunar has messaged that its mounted
[15:45] <holstein> livingdaylight: i would just mount it again.. i sometimes physically pull the stick out, like i suggested earlier
[15:45] <livingdaylight> I've already pulled it out and reinserted it twice
[15:46] <livingdaylight> twiece thnar says its mounted; twice unetbootin says it can't see it
[15:46] <holstein> livingdaylight: you should also consider that the drive could be failing.. if it were me, i would try the stick on a couple different machines, and i would try a few different sticks on that machine
[15:46] <livingdaylight> mount /dev/sdc is returning mount: can't find /dev/sdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[15:47] <holstein> livingdaylight: thats the kind of odd "behavior" i have seen with failing sticks
[15:47] <livingdaylight> yup, maybe its failing and Thunar reads it but Unetbootin doesn't
[15:47] <holstein> if its failing, anything can read it, or lose it.. or drop it halfway through a transfer.. or dd would be alowed to bit copy to it
[15:49] <livingdaylight> would 'mount /dev/device' be the usual way to physically mount it using Terminal?
[15:49] <holstein> gajen: seems like that is the encryption passphrase entry, though i forget when that comes in the steps
[15:49] <holstein> gajen: if you are getting in, i would maybe just look around the wiki's and try and confirm the system is encrypted as you expect
[15:49] <holstein> !mount
[15:56] <gajen> holstein: i think it might be that part where you enter your passphrase and you get back a long sequence of characters. the home folder is encrypted
[15:57] <holstein> gajen: might be.. you should be able to confirm that it is encrypted, and do it again if you choose
[16:01] <gajen> holstein: looking at the wiki, it might be the mount passphrase
[16:11] <G__81> i am using 12.04 and when i log in i get a different window manager i dont get the usual stock Ubuntu GDM. I see something different. the default DM is still set to lightdm
[16:12] <G__81> i dont get the actual DM that comes with Ubuntu 12.04
[16:12] <G__81> i was actually using Kubuntu and i removed it and installed Xubuntu and then i see this
[16:12] <G__81> is this a problem?
[16:40] <mips1911> Peeps I need some help with GLX issues please. 12.04 AMD64, nVidia 9600GT, nvidia-current nvidia-settings v304.43
[16:41] <mips1911> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1186093/
[16:41] <mips1911> http://ompldr.org/vZmQxMg/nv1.png
[16:41] <mips1911> http://ompldr.org/vZmQxMw/nv2.png
[16:41] <mips1911> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[16:41] <mips1911> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[16:44] <GridCube> mips1911, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930433
[16:47] <mips1911> GridCube, I don't have a /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/libglx.so file. That folder of mine is empty
[16:53] <GridCube> mips1911, reinstall the driver from jockey-gtk
[16:59] <mips1911> GridCube, Jockey does not see the new drivers, only the old ones in the official repos by the looks of things
[17:00] <GridCube> mmkay
[17:01] <GridCube> let me see
[17:05] <GridCube> mips1911, care to try a ppa?
[17:06] <GridCube> you can always remove it using ppa-purge later
[17:06] <mips1911> GridCube, I just installed from the X-Swat PPA. I have limited bandwidth available to me though so not so keen
[17:06] <GridCube> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat
[17:06] <GridCube> welp thats the one i was going to propose to you
[17:07] <mips1911> GridCube, thats where I install from
[17:08] <GridCube> you could try this one then: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers
[17:09] <mips1911> no thanks, more bleeding and I need to conserve bandwidth this side
[17:10] <GridCube> you could try to get the specific glx package then?
[17:12] <mips1911> I would if I knew which one it was
[17:14] <GridCube> search glx on synaptic and you get a bunch of them
[17:18] <mips1911> I tried that but can't see what I'm missing
[17:19] <GridCube> mips1911, i know this might sound silly, but have you tried rebooting?
[17:19] <mips1911> Not having much luck on the forums either. usually when I post somehting I never get a response
[17:19] <mips1911> GridCube, yes. I'm getting tired of my plymouth splash :)
[17:20] <GridCube> :P
[17:20] <GridCube> mips1911, try this, uninstall the nvidia drivers, reboot to generic drivers, reboot again and install nvidias, and reboot
[17:21] <mips1911> GridCube, ok, I'll try that quickly. be back shortly
[17:21] <GridCube> my logic here is this, rebooting using the generic drivers will save generic states to the system somewhere, and then magic will happen
[17:23] <mips1911> busy uninstalling via synaptic. My apt is also borked somehow, when I try install via apt-get it cannot find any packages but synaptic works fine though. Oh well 12.10 will be here soon...
[17:27] <mips1911> oh bollocks, i just uninstalled apt, now i can't reinstall it.
[17:27] <GridCube> D:
[17:27] <GridCube> what?!
[17:28] <GridCube> how would you go and do that?
[17:28] <mips1911> apt is a core component
[17:30] <mips1911> oh god, my entire apt cache is also gone.
[17:30] <GridCube> D:
[17:32] <mips1911> rebooting now would be total suicide. let me backup whatever I can, reinstall 12.10 from a minimal cd and start from scratch.
[17:32] <mips1911> Lol, at least my GLX issues are no more :D
[17:32] <GridCube> dont
[17:32] <mips1911> dont what?
[17:32] <GridCube> dont reboot
[17:32] <GridCube> let me find out how to restore your apt-get
[17:32] <mips1911> trust me, I have no intention of rebooting
[17:36] <mips1911> GridCube, I don't think restoring apt is gonna help me much as it removed ubuntu-minimal and the entire package cache is gone so it will have to pull all those packages from the repos again as they were deleted. Not feeling like doing data recovery.
[17:37] <GridCube> mips1911, you can download apt from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/apt
[17:39] <GridCube> use dpkg to install it
[17:40] <GridCube> oh, well, :/
[17:41] <mips1911> GridCube, not going to work, to many missing dependencies. I appreciate your help though
[17:42] <GridCube> :( ok
[17:42] <grub> lol
[17:42] <mips1911> I did try installing it though.
[17:43] <mips1911> Someone needs to upload the logs of this chat to reddit or something. My moment of shame (& utter stupidity) :D
[17:46] <mips1911> anybody know where I can get a 12.10 netinstall image
[17:46] <GridCube> !netinstall
[17:47] <GridCube> thats not very helpful, try here, mips1911: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[17:53] <mips1911> GridCube, thanks busy download the quantal beta1 netboot cd now.
[17:54] <mips1911> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds/22266/downloads
[18:12] <mips1911_> Wish me luck
[18:14] <GridCube> good lucks
[20:07] <vagrantc> anyone know how to network install xubuntu? i've already got standard ubuntu network installs set up, but i don't immediately see what to configure to tell it to install xubuntu ...
[20:10] <vagrantc> i know with debian you can just pass desktop=FOO to the installer ...
[20:11] <cc_INC> Are you using the mini-iso?
[20:12] <cc_INC> I think sudo tasksel might help you get Xubuntu
[20:13] <cc_INC> Or maybe sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:13] <Unit193> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop is the recommended way from the mini.iso.
[20:14] <vagrantc> cc_INC: no, full on network boot
[20:14] <vagrantc> anyone know how to network install xubuntu? i've already got standard ubuntu network installs set up, but i don't immediately see what to configure to tell it to install xubuntu ...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[20:14] <vagrantc> oops
[20:14] <vagrantc> the url
[20:15] <vagrantc> need something that works with preseeding...
[20:16] <cc_INC> I don't have any experience with a full on network boot
[20:16] <vagrantc> i guess i can just preseed: tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, xubuntu-desktop
[20:17] <Unit193> I've setup PXE before, wasn't as easy with *ubuntu as others.
[20:17] <vagrantc> i know how to set up PXE, i just need to know what's different between standard ubuntu and xubuntu
[20:17] <vagrantc> how does the installer know the difference?
[20:17] <vagrantc> in an automated way...
[20:18]  * vagrantc tries preseeding
[20:20] <Unit193> That page linked to http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/example-preseed.txt, and close to the bottom you have ### Package selection   and that uses tasksel.
[20:22] <Unit193> xubuntu-desktop is of course the name of the installed system, and xubuntu-live for liveCD.
[20:25] <vagrantc> yeah, that's what i'll try
[20:25] <vagrantc> thanks folks
[20:26] <Unit193> Sorry I couldn't help more.
[20:26] <vagrantc> hopefully it's as simple  as that :)
[20:31] <mips1911> vagrantc I'm busy with that at the moment. My net install bomb towards the end though so I'm gonna try chrooting to fix it. If you use the net installer you have to select a command-line system and then you have to install xubuntu-desktop after the base install has completed
[20:32] <vagrantc> that's... unfortunate
[20:32] <mips1911> what?
[20:32] <vagrantc> i need an automated install process, and it's unfortunate that that sounds so badly broken :(
[20:35] <mips1911> i'm sure there is a way to do it with a script or something like netboot etc but that goes beyond what I know
[23:13] <Pizza90> does anyone here know why my aspire 5536 with xubuntu 12.04 keeps having the fans always on?? cpu and ram seems ok
[23:18] <unheeding> my fan is always on too
[23:30] <Pizza90> i dont think it's normal, i have never had with the 10.4
[23:52] <holstein> Pizza90: i would look at the graphics driver
[23:54] <Pizza90> holstein: i have a well known bug with the proprietary drive (i am on ubuntu 12.04) so i had to use the opensource ones
[23:54] <Pizza90> but with both the fans are always on
[23:57] <holstein> Pizza90: i have a via chip thats like that
[23:58] <Pizza90> this 12.04 seems good but untill i fix this problem it's a problem using it, i dont want to fry my pc
[23:59] <holstein> nah.. you wont "fry" it.. try the vesa driver
[23:59] <vagrantc> so network install of xubuntu by just preseeding tasksel to install xubuntu-desktop instead of ubuntu-desktop basically worked
[23:59] <vagrantc> although the installer doesn't support non-pae systems...