| shadeslayer | SteveRiley: ping | 04:45 |
|---|---|---|
| shadeslayer | did you just get a Event Brite invitation? or a more proper email? | 04:46 |
| shadeslayer | I've not been to UDS for the last 3 years, so clearly things have changed | 04:46 |
| shadeslayer | ( somehow that eventbrite invitation landed in my spam ) | 04:46 |
| shadeslayer | or if anyone else got that ^ | 04:47 |
| micahg | shadeslayer: yes, I think that's the new system (for this round at least) | 04:48 |
| shadeslayer | alright, I'm coming to UDS then \o/ | 04:48 |
| shadeslayer | micahg: for some reason it doesn't say what's sponsored and what's not though | 04:48 |
| micahg | shadeslayer: I saw you in Florida 2 years ago IIRC | 04:49 |
| shadeslayer | micahg: yes | 04:49 |
| shadeslayer | 10.10 right? | 04:49 |
| micahg | no, 11.04 | 04:49 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 04:49 |
| * shadeslayer just got up, needs coffee | 04:49 | |
| micahg | Maverick (brussels) was my first UDS | 04:49 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 04:49 |
| shadeslayer | 11.04 was my first ... after that something or the other came up and prevented me from attending | 04:50 |
| Tm_T | new KTP in PPA, nice | 05:20 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 05:27 |
| shadeslayer | let me know if you find issues | 05:27 |
| Tm_T | also, looks like I got sponsorship to UDS | 05:27 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 05:27 |
| === em is now known as em_ | ||
| === em_ is now known as em | ||
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: It's just me who didn't get sponsorship mail yet T_T | 06:20 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: check your spam folder | 06:22 |
| shadeslayer | 'twas there for me | 06:22 |
| shadeslayer | it'll be a event brite email | 06:22 |
| Quintasan | lawl | 06:22 |
| shadeslayer | got it? | 06:22 |
| Quintasan | nope | 06:23 |
| Quintasan | not there | 06:23 |
| shadeslayer | oh hmm | 06:23 |
| Quintasan | in:anywhere Event Brite didn't yield anything relevant | 06:23 |
| jussi | I didnt get sponsored..... | 06:24 |
| shadeslayer | maybe sometime today? | 06:24 |
| jussi | oh wait, I didnt apply :P | 06:24 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 06:24 |
| shadeslayer | so no kookies for me, sigh | 06:24 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: that doesnt mean Im not coming... | 06:24 |
| shadeslayer | oh :D | 06:24 |
| Quintasan | lol jussi | 06:24 |
| shadeslayer | right, you're in Euro | 06:25 |
| shadeslayer | *Europe | 06:25 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: its a "maybe" at the moment | 06:25 |
| Quintasan | I DARE YOU TO BRING THOSE DAMN FINNISH SWEETS | 06:25 |
| Quintasan | I DARE YOU jussi | 06:25 |
| jussi | Quintasan: hahaha | 06:25 |
| shadeslayer | what finnish sweets | 06:25 |
| jussi | the salty ones or the hot ones? | 06:25 |
| Quintasan | I think you gave me the salty one | 06:25 |
| jussi | hehe | 06:25 |
| Quintasan | Because I think I could handle the hot one | 06:26 |
| jussi | you can probably buy them in denmark... | 06:26 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: God knows how do they call them but the salty one is awful | 06:26 |
| jussi | Salmiakki | 06:26 |
| Quintasan | !!!! | 06:26 |
| * Quintasan notes the name of the devil's artifact | 06:26 | |
| jussi | haha | 06:26 |
| shadeslayer | oh yay, sweets that are not sweets | 06:26 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: oh they have sugar... | 06:27 |
| shadeslayer | I like those, sugary things make me want to vomit :P | 06:27 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 06:27 |
| jussi | just salt also | 06:27 |
| jussi | its liquorice based | 06:27 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: If you think you like salty things then your will reconsider if jussi gives you one | 06:28 |
| Quintasan | :P | 06:28 |
| jussi | hehe | 06:28 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: >mfw jussi gave me one | 06:29 |
| Quintasan | http://rookery9.aviary.com.s3.amazonaws.com/10419500/10419640_4f0d_625x625.jpg | 06:29 |
| jussi | haha | 06:30 |
| Quintasan | Christ, let me know if I should get money for UDS or not | 06:31 |
| * Quintasan wonders if he can find work fast enough. | 06:31 | |
| shadeslayer | haha | 06:37 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: jussi listen to this : http://www.youtube.com/user/cokestudioatmtv?feature=results_main | 06:39 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer sending me music | 06:40 |
| Quintasan | what kind of sorcery is that | 06:40 |
| shadeslayer | the best kind | 06:40 |
| Quintasan | Won't say I understand anything they sing but the music is nice | 06:41 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 06:43 |
| Quintasan | However | 06:43 |
| Quintasan | you can't beat this | 06:43 |
| Quintasan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k | 06:43 |
| shadeslayer | basically, the singer is singing out the musical notes in that video | 06:44 |
| Quintasan | oh | 06:44 |
| shadeslayer | see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swara | 06:44 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: and that's just one song, listen to the other playlists there | 06:50 |
| shadeslayer | so, who's on precise? | 06:51 |
| shadeslayer | and likes Firefox | 06:51 |
| shadeslayer | "Michal Zajac is now Offline" | 06:55 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 06:56 |
| agateau | bambee: great to hear your nephew likes KidMP :) | 07:05 |
| soee | hmm when i try to run updates with muon i have this error message: operations can not be performed until a valid authorization | 07:59 |
| soee | so all updates i have to do using terminal and going sudo | 07:59 |
| soee | muon should prompt for password (and did it before) but even then there was a problem with locking | 08:00 |
| soee | is it possible that this problems are caused by GNOME? I have installed KDE on normal Ubuntu installation | 08:01 |
| soee | it was 11.04 -> installed KDE -> upgrade 12.04 | 08:01 |
| tsdgeos | lol, my public launchpad bug just got marked as duplicate of a private one | 08:21 |
| tsdgeos | what's the point of that? | 08:22 |
| tsdgeos | is there any chance that https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1045755 is owned by any of the distro guys here and make it public so i can see what my bug was marked as duplicate? | 08:23 |
| ubottu | Error: malone bug 1045755 not found | 08:23 |
| bambee | Precise is an excellent LTS... really... kde 4.8 is really stable and fast :) | 08:24 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: okular moving to universe? | 08:35 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: it's in universe | 08:38 |
| Riddell | almost all of kde has been moved there | 08:38 |
| Riddell | which is good, less faff and no translations in launchpad | 08:38 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: maybe now you can fix the packaging and include the epub backend? | 08:38 |
| tsdgeos | oh it's there already | 08:38 |
| * tsdgeos hits himself | 08:38 | |
| Riddell | yep, another advantage | 08:39 |
| Riddell | okular-extra-backends.install:usr/lib/kde4/okularGenerator_epub.so | 08:39 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: so you can set https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdegraphics/+bug/277007 as fixed then ;-) | 08:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 277007 in kdegraphics (Ubuntu) "The package claims to support CHM files but it does not" [Wishlist,Fix released] | 08:40 |
| Riddell | it's already set to fixed | 08:40 |
| Riddell | okular-extra-backends.install:usr/lib/kde4/okularGenerator_chmlib.so | 08:40 |
| tsdgeos | well | 08:40 |
| tsdgeos | just half of it | 08:40 |
| tsdgeos | the other half says unconfirmed or something | 08:40 |
| tsdgeos | Unknown | 08:41 |
| Riddell | hmm, I don't know if I can correct that | 08:43 |
| Riddell | !testers | 08:47 |
| ubottu | Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, em | 08:47 |
| Riddell | mega beta 1 testing needed | 08:47 |
| soee | mega? | 08:47 |
| Riddell | as in everything needs tested by tomorrow | 08:47 |
| shadeslayer | tsdgeos: that bug is already public | 08:54 |
| shadeslayer | ah someone marked it public 20 minutes ago | 08:55 |
| tsdgeos | shadeslayer: sure, because i complained ;-) | 08:55 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 08:55 |
| shadeslayer | I hope I don't exceed my 3G Data usage | 08:56 |
| * Riddell feels left out without confirmation or not of uds sponsorship | 09:12 | |
| Riddell | agateau: did you apply for sponsorship? | 09:12 |
| agateau | Riddell: I did | 09:12 |
| Riddell | agateau: get anything back? | 09:12 |
| agateau | Riddell: not yet | 09:13 |
| * agateau checks | 09:13 | |
| Riddell | hmm, I hope they don't hold a grudge against us! | 09:13 |
| agateau | Riddell: i assume we would at least receive a refusal message | 09:14 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: Riddell check yer spam | 09:19 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: I just did | 09:19 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 09:19 |
| shadeslayer | they're being slow, that's what it is :) | 09:19 |
| shadeslayer | ( my invitation was in Spam ) | 09:19 |
| Tm_T | mine was in spam folder also | 09:27 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1045755] assistant-qt4 crashed with SIGSEGV in MainWindow::updateApplicationFont() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1045755 (by Alexander Langanke) | 09:28 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: err aye, in my spam it is | 09:39 |
| Riddell | agateau: worth double checking | 09:39 |
| agateau | Riddell: who's the sender? | 09:41 |
| Riddell | invite@eventbrite.com | 09:41 |
| agateau | thanks | 09:42 |
| agateau | Riddell: nope, no luck for me :/ | 09:44 |
| agateau | I mean, no mail | 09:44 |
| Riddell | agateau: mhall119 is the guy to nudge I beleive | 09:45 |
| agateau | ok | 09:45 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: you're coming? | 09:45 |
| agateau | Riddell: so, are you sponsored? | 09:46 |
| Riddell | agateau: yep, they still like me | 09:46 |
| agateau | good :) | 09:46 |
| agateau | Riddell: when did it arrive? | 09:47 |
| Riddell | 11:08 (23 hours ago) | 09:47 |
| agateau | ok, I'll wait until tomorrow then | 09:48 |
| Riddell | afiestas, apol_: either of you apply? | 09:48 |
| apol_ | Riddell: for UDS? I didn't | 09:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: w00t :D | 09:58 |
| afiestas | Riddell: i did, didn0t giot any email | 09:59 |
| afiestas | should I get one either way? | 09:59 |
| Riddell | afiestas: unsure, agateau is also lacking one | 09:59 |
| Riddell | afiestas: did you check spam? | 09:59 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I will try, still have to convince my employer and then home | 10:00 |
| afiestas | Riddell: nope | 10:00 |
| Riddell | afiestas: check spam for invite@eventbrite.com | 10:01 |
| afiestas | mmm nope | 10:01 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yay your plasma-desktop init script patch worked, you're a genius | 10:03 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 10:03 |
| Riddell | afiestas: nudge mhall119 if you don't get one soon | 10:04 |
| shadeslayer | any ideas what should I link against if I use KNotifyConfigWidget? | 10:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: libknotifyconfig.so ? | 10:07 |
| Riddell | at a guess | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | sure, but I can't find the appropriate var name :D | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | for CMakeLists | 10:07 |
| Riddell | ./src/CMakeLists.txt: ${KDE4_KNOTIFYCONFIG_LIBRARY} | 10:08 |
| Riddell | says konsole sources | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | <3 | 10:08 |
| Riddell | mm, this beta image is much better than yesterdays, whatever was making it boot up slow has gone too | 10:09 |
| shadeslayer | hah :D | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | just need to figure out the notificationrc file now | 10:11 |
| Riddell | remember to killall knotify4 before testing any changes to it | 10:12 |
| Riddell | seen people waste whole days wondering why changes don't make any difference on that | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :) | 10:14 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: does qapt need to create its own index on first use? | 10:24 |
| Riddell | or is that a xapian thing I see the progress bar for in the corner of muon? | 10:24 |
| Riddell | mm must be, update-apt-xapian is running | 10:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I do wonder, did you start muon right after login of a new system? | 10:31 |
| Riddell | I did this time yes | 10:32 |
| apachelogger | because I very much believe the update ought to be triggered by update checking which does not kick in until 1 minute after kded was started | 10:32 |
| Riddell | ah then I might be testing too much :) | 10:32 |
| apachelogger | *update of xapian being triggered by muon's update notifier that is ^^ | 10:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yah, it's a marginal design issue | 10:32 |
| apachelogger | well "issue" | 10:33 |
| apachelogger | if we had not moved update checking back one minute it would xapian update right at login | 10:33 |
| apachelogger | suffice to say that this would make first login even more sluggish | 10:33 |
| apachelogger | mhhhh | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | whee, per contact notifications done in ktp :) | 10:54 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what does that mean? | 10:55 |
| Riddell | "I only want to be bothered by shadeslayer, nobody else is worthy of a popup on my screen"? | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: now you can stalk people as they come online | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | yes :P | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | you can change the settings so that there's a notification as soon as I come online | 10:56 |
| Riddell | at last, I'll never miss your presense again! :) | 10:56 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | next up is jussi's request for password protected jabber chatrooms | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | oh | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | I forgot meta-kde | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | wooh | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | also | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: why is no one using meta-kde bzr branch? Oo | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | ah | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | only ubuntu3 missing | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | -> goes off to find something to eat | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | (as usual) | 10:58 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: +++++++++++++ | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | bbl | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | funy how we have ubuntu3 not in the archive :O | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what's up with that? | 10:58 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: my fail? | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | well, you upped it to ninjas | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | * Bump to 4.9.0 | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | -- Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:06:05 +0100 | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | I guess we'll simply do 4.9.1 as ubuntu3 upload to archive | 11:00 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that would save me from looking bad :) | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: btw, if you have a minute ... https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages do you get 404s when trying to access files there? | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | been getting them with buildlogs too, so it is getting a bit suspicious | 11:02 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: analitza_4.9.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1.dsc downloads fine | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: and meta-kde? | 11:03 |
| Riddell | kde-full_76~pre1ubuntu3~ppa1_all.deb and kdemultimedia_76~pre1ubuntu3~ppa1_all.deb: fine | 11:04 |
| Riddell | meta-kde_76~pre1ubuntu3~ppa1.dsc fine too | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | hm, so lunchpad really doesn't like me | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 11:05 |
| Riddell | maybe so | 11:05 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: let me know if you need me to download anything | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | oh la la | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer commited a new upstream release to kde4libs and that is now messing with my dpkg-build | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | boohooo I say, good sir | 11:18 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: libqapt will need the apt xapian index to be present before search functionality will work, yes. | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: does update notifier trigger that? | 11:20 |
| JontheEchidna | Currently, when a LibQApt client initializes the QApt::Backend object, it compares the time stamp of the apt cache and xapian cache. | 11:20 |
| JontheEchidna | and then uses the qapt worker to invoke update-apt-xapian-index as root | 11:20 |
| JontheEchidna | the notifier doesn't have anything to do with it tho | 11:20 |
| JontheEchidna | but perhaps it could, as it takes ~5-15 seconds to build the cache from scratch | 11:21 |
| JontheEchidna | making a ~5-15 second peroid where search will not work right off the bat | 11:21 |
| JontheEchidna | if the notifier did that, we could hope that the notifier's xapian update will get done before the user wants to start up the muon package manager | 11:21 |
| JontheEchidna | was that your thought? | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | aye | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | I think only the first start scenario is affected anyway | 11:22 |
| JontheEchidna | makes a good bit of sense. I gotta get ready for classes tho | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | after that IIRC xapian will update automatically when something in the database changes, no? | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | otherwise it would be even better | 11:22 |
| JontheEchidna | I seem to have to manually invoke it whenever the apt cache changes | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | 90% of cases you do not log in and start the package manager right away | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: why that is sort of spooky | 11:23 |
| JontheEchidna | well, it's not a daemon, so.... | 11:23 |
| === shumski_ is now known as shumski | ||
| apachelogger | in that case periodic triggers via the update daemon would be cool ;) | 11:23 |
| JontheEchidna | I think it has a daily cron job or smth | 11:23 |
| JontheEchidna | nvm, it doesn't | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | I realize it is not a daemon, but there certainly could/should be some sort of hook functionality to enable it to do smaller incremental updates than once a day, or once someone triggers it | 11:24 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, that'd be nice. though it does go a lot quicker if there's a cache already and you invoke an update over dbus | 11:26 |
| JontheEchidna | compared to starting with nothing | 11:26 |
| JontheEchidna | all I know is that somehow it provides sub-100 ms searches (in most cases) that provide mostly relevant results (in most cases) | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but from a purely architectural pov that still can turn out bad when between two updates a large number of changes occured | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sorry about that, didn't realize that the script pushed changes as well | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah it does | 11:27 |
| * apachelogger does not like it | 11:27 | |
| shadeslayer | indeed, I realized it after it had pushed it | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | I will probably work on a design proposal that allows for better scaling | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | i.e. the you-need-to-restart-from-sctach-on-fail is pissing me off royally | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: did you push more than kde4libs? | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | so, this hospital is weird ... no 4th and 13th floors | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | :O | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I don't *think* so, but I could be wrong | 11:29 |
| JontheEchidna | covering both the chinese and western superstitions, I suppose | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | lol | 11:30 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: didn't realize there was a superstition about the 4th floor | 11:30 |
| * apachelogger mumbles something about needing a hair cut and starts a search for the holy grail^Wphone | 11:31 | |
| JontheEchidna | apparently the word for "4" sounds like "hell" in chinese | 11:31 |
| shadeslayer | oh .. wow | 11:31 |
| JontheEchidna | so it's considered unlucky | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | why that was obvious | 11:32 |
| Riddell | I did wonder if we should jump straight to KDE 5 back in the day, but the chinese guy I asked said not to worry | 11:32 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | good news everyone! | 11:32 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | half of .1 was not uploaded and I do not know why | 11:32 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 11:32 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I did see half of .1 in ninjas and assumed you uploaded it | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | on purpose | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | well, I uploaded all except the 3 pkgs that did not build a source | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | and according to dput's upload files everything was upped | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.kde.org/544352/ | 11:34 |
| shadeslayer | launchpad was hungry and ate them | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | yah | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | lunchpad doesn't like me anymore it seems | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | it's also not like I got an email about it being rejected or anything | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | maybe they got rejected ? | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | ah ... | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | email about it being accepted ? | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | well they clearly got rejected | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | lunchpad just doesn't tell me about it | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | (there is no record of lunchpad ever knowing about the package) | 11:37 |
| apachelogger | ohooooo! | 11:37 |
| apachelogger | they are not signed | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | hrrhrr | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | probably was bad copy'n'paste on my part, one line being newlined before the end screwing up half the signing | 11:42 |
| Riddell | anyone able to test beta 1 candidate amd64 CD? since someone has reported plasma crashes on startup on it http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds/22548/testcases | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | no stick available | 11:48 |
| * apachelogger complains about the lack of backtrace | 11:50 | |
| Riddell | claydoh: yo | 11:52 |
| claydoh | hi Riddell just got home, and irc back online | 11:52 |
| claydoh | will be doing release stuff today after sleep, then I get to replace motherboard in my laptop yay! | 11:53 |
| Riddell | thanks claydoh :) | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: bzr: ERROR: An error (1) occurred running quilt: Patch kubuntu_plasma_init_script.diff does not exist | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | kde-workspace | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | you forgot to commit the diff | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | (bzr issues sure a common these days :() | 11:59 |
| Riddell | gah | 11:59 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: committed | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | danke | 12:00 |
| claydoh | Riddell: apachelogger: anything you or anyone feels needing inclusion in the notes, please let me know | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | howdy folks | 12:06 |
| === smarter_ is now known as smarter | ||
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: did you push your missing commit to kdenetwork yet? | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | 15 packages still missing from ninjas | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.kde.org/544370/ | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | if anyone wants to pick that up, I'll be away for an hour or so | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | also libs is ftbfs | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | hooray | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | libs needs the so names changed everywhere to .1 | 12:27 |
| * apachelogger gone now | 12:27 | |
| Riddell | hi mparillo | 12:53 |
| mparillo | Riddell: Hi. | 12:54 |
| Riddell | claydoh: search through my posts to release-team to get feature updates | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | huh ? my missing commit ? also I will most likely not be able to do a lot today, most likely tomorrow ... | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^ | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | only have 75 MB's of data left :P | 13:07 |
| Riddell | nobody type anything, it'll waste shadeslayer's bandwidth! | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | ^_^ | 13:12 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: how come you're so short? | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: not at home, and recharged with the cheapest plan that was available for data | 13:13 |
| shadeslayer | I didn't realize I would be staying at the hospital overnight | 13:14 |
| Riddell | mm, someone ill? | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, my uncle ... | 13:15 |
| Riddell | best of luck with that then | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | oh, they say they'll discharge him tomorrow :) | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | could someone test ff from : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra | 13:18 |
| * Riddell installs | 13:25 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: starts up, what am I looking for? | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: things like the save dialog should be the one from KDE | 13:27 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: nope :( | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | O_o | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | correct version et all ? | 13:27 |
| Riddell | firefox: Installed: 15.0+build1-0ubuntu2~ppa3 | 13:28 |
| Riddell | seems to be | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: what about the open dialog | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | and by save dialog I mean the ui that pops up and asks where you want to save things | 13:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ugly and gtk | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | humbug | 13:30 |
| debfx | ScottK: if no one is working on the ibus stuff we should separate it from 4.8.5 and upload it proposed | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: precise ? | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | nvm | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: works just fine here | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | how odd | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | ah I know | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you need Firefox-kde-support | 13:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, is that still FF 14.1 in the ppa ? or is it upgraded to 15 yet ? | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: I need testers for precise + ff 15 | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | see backlog | 13:49 |
| BluesKaj | ok , I'm on quantal here ... my precise install is maintained with stable apps , hence my stable fallback OS | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | hmm , you can test for quantal as well | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, ok I'll test FF 15 on quantal if you wish | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | yeah :) | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | make sure you install Firefox-kde-support from the blue shell ppa | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | :( | 13:56 |
| * shadeslayer tickles apachelogger | 13:56 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you uploadered kdednetwork but did not commit/push to bzr | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+changelog | 13:57 |
| * shadeslayer tickles apachelogger some more | 13:57 | |
| apachelogger | the mighty lunchpad knows it all | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | anyone uploaded anything while I was away? | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | WRT .1 | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | don't think so | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | u all lazy, me sad | 13:59 |
| ScottK | debfx: OK. There'a also a Kamera patch that just went into Debian we probably want. | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: just strapped for bandwidth today | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | it's because Riddell types so much! | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 14:02 |
| * apachelogger picks nose while waiting for kdelibs to proudce a source pkg | 14:03 | |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1011961] sftp connection with password fails @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1011961 (by Arrigo Marchiori) | 14:06 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: mm, nice and KDE now | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | what's this then? bug day? | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer | yay | 14:06 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, is that a different FF-kde-support than the one for 14.1 ? | 14:08 |
| BluesKaj | because I have FF kde-support already installed | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: nope, that's fine | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | just upgrade ff | 14:10 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, ok good | 14:10 |
| BluesKaj | yup already did | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: me thinks we can drop kde.js | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: me thinks we can drop kde.js when the mighty opensuse does | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | just need to talk to opensuse people as to why they have it | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | ask wstephenson | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | *will ask ... | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan_: did you get some sort of confirmation for UDS? | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I can reproduce the crashery of plasma on amd64 | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | qt 4.8.2 bug that is | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | actually | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: are we going for .3 in quantal? | 15:11 |
| Quintasan_ | YES | 15:16 |
| Quintasan_ | THEY FIXED MY INTERNET | 15:16 |
| Quintasan_ | shadeslayer: | 15:16 |
| Quintasan_ | nope | 15:16 |
| Quintasan_ | not yet, strange | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | :( | 15:16 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| sreich | oh man i know that feeling..broken internet | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 15:16 |
| * apachelogger tickles Quintasan | 15:16 | |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: what? | 15:17 |
| Quintasan | I didn't break anything | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: I was born with a broken internet, you merely adopted it | 15:17 |
| * apachelogger shrugs and fires up the dragon | 15:18 | |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: What was the sender name again? | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | uh | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | invite@eventbrite.com | 15:19 |
| Quintasan | nope | 15:20 |
| Quintasan | nothing | 15:20 |
| Quintasan | Who do I blame for this? | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | ask Marianna or Mhall | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | sooo ..... no precise users? | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I can't backtrace tho :( | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | I use maverick | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | good on you | 15:27 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Ha, mhall said some mails didn | 15:40 |
| Quintasan | didn't make it | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | so you're coming? | 15:40 |
| Quintasan | dunno | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 15:41 |
| JontheEchidna | haha, my dad sent me this link: http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2012/9/4/how-to-judge.html | 15:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm fairly sure we've had the conversation on the bottom-left panel ;-) | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | lol | 15:51 |
| === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter | ||
| Riddell | apachelogger: uh oh, does it just crash on boot up? | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | yep | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | well, when you choose the login option and the session starts | 16:01 |
| Riddell | damn | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | I actually cannot find the Qt bug | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | but it is the same crash as seen here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305913 | 16:02 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 305913 in general "Kate crashes upon startup" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | I think amarok has that too | 16:02 |
| Riddell | ug | 16:03 |
| Riddell | qscript to blame? | 16:06 |
| Riddell | could be patch kubuntu_36_qtscript_64bit.diff recommended by KDevelop authors. Fix JIT crash on x86-64 | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | oh, very possible | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | I only saw kubuntu based reports thus far | 16:07 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: if you can't get a backtrace what makes you think it's https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305913 ? | 16:08 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 305913 in general "Kate crashes upon startup" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: unless qtscript is completely broken there ought not be that many reasons to crash in a ctor | 16:08 |
| Riddell | hmm, I wonder how to assess how common this bug is, would be bad to release a beta which crashes on boot up for lots of people | 16:10 |
| * apachelogger needs to look at patch | 16:10 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I'd say potentially all of 64bit is affected though | 16:11 |
| Riddell | worked fine for me | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | well, I only tried in vbox so all of vbox + 64bit ;) | 16:12 |
| apachelogger | we do have a lot of patches in qt | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | read: we have too many patches in qt | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qt/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_01_fix_build_glib_231.diff | 16:16 |
| BluesKaj | apachelogger, some are probly needed , getting Qt errors in kate segfaults here on quantal | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | half a year is a long temporary | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | BluesKaj: huh? | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | please elaborate | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | danimo: when is qt 4.8.3 due? I noticed it is already tagged | 16:17 |
| BluesKaj | wish I would have saved that last pastebin ..hangon | 16:17 |
| danimo | apachelogger: I have no idea frankly | 16:17 |
| danimo | apachelogger: did you try asking in #qt-labs? | 16:17 |
| apachelogger | nah, too lazy | 16:17 |
| danimo | apachelogger: I think due to the transfer things got a bit deferred | 16:18 |
| Riddell | rdieter: I see bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305718 is reported on fedora too, do you use that qtscript-on-64bit patch the kdevelop guys recommended for qt? | 16:20 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 305718 in qt "Several applications crash in QtScript initialization [@__memcpy_sse2, QTJSC::JIT::privateCompileCTIMachineTrampolines]" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 16:20 |
| rdieter | Riddell: yes, we reverted the patch | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685524 | 16:22 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 685524 in qt4-x11 "After upgrading to 4:4.8.2+dfsg-1 kwin segfaults on startup" [Grave,Fixed] | 16:22 |
| rdieter | Riddell: and added a comment @ https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-23871 about the badness | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | it's interesting how we are the only distro not noticing :P | 16:23 |
| rdieter | seems to only happen on some hardware, not easily reproducible | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: so that seems vastly hardware dependent | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | rdieter: yeah | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: IMHO that ought to be fixed for beta | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | beta is the time when people start looking at things, potentially having a half broken system seems a bit ... wrong | 16:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: question is do we just throw up qt without that patch and rebuild the ISOs or do we test it first somehow | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: given the time constraints I'd go with former | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | we know it worked without the patch | 16:26 |
| BluesKaj | apachelogger, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305913 | 16:26 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 305913 in general "Kate crashes upon startup" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | so assuming the patches-should-not-depend-conflict-with-each-other rule was applied properly | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | qt should work all the same without the patch | 16:26 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, resolved ? ...not here | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | BluesKaj: it's the issue we are talking about right now | 16:27 |
| BluesKaj | right apachelogger , good to know | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | uploading 6 more packages to ninjas, I hope this time libs builds | 16:34 |
| debfx | hm none of the 4.9.1 packages have the kdelibs5-dev build-dependency bumped to >= 4.9.1 | 16:38 |
| Riddell | page started for UDS http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-uds | 16:39 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Quantal bugs: http://goo.gl/ESmab | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | apachelogger: SRU plymouth logo & fix ipod support & cleanup ftpmaster access | UDS-R: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-uds | ||
| Riddell | agateau, afiestas, Quintasan: marianna sent around an e-mail to sponsored people and you weren't in the To: line so I guess you didn't make it | 16:41 |
| Riddell | I recommend you e-mail kubuntu-devel asking for sponsorship from the kubuntu-council and why you deserve it and we can decide on that next week | 16:42 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1046244] plasma-desktop crashes with SIGFAULT on boot @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046244 (by Francesco Ruvolo) | 16:42 |
| afiestas | Riddell: will have to follow uds online, at least this year is in my timezone more or less xd | 16:44 |
| Riddell | afiestas: you don't fancy coming on kubuntu's expenses? | 16:46 |
| afiestas | mmm I have mix feelings about that | 16:46 |
| Riddell | well we work best as a distro when there's some upstream people around to keep us right | 16:46 |
| afiestas | Riddell: no upstream got sponsored this time? | 16:49 |
| Riddell | nope | 16:49 |
| Riddell | gosh canonical's expense sheet really is an Excel file, I thought that was just a malitious rumour | 16:57 |
| highvoltage | at least they don't have the old distorted ubuntu logo on there anymroe | 16:58 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, yeah. I've used it before | 16:58 |
| highvoltage | (but they still use Arial :-/) | 16:58 |
| BluesKaj | apachelogger, which ninja ppa should I look at for the Qt patches when they are finished building ? | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | BluesKaj: ninja is in no usable condition | 17:09 |
| BluesKaj | yeah apachelogger I find it confusing and totally disorganized | 17:11 |
| BluesKaj | the whole setup | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | what steup? | 17:11 |
| BluesKaj | the ppa pages etc | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | don't unstand | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | also can't type apparently | 17:12 |
| apachelogger | s/unstand/understand/ | 17:12 |
| kubotu | apachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" | 17:12 |
| BluesKaj | apachelogger, guess I don't understand either | 17:16 |
| === shumski_ is now known as shumski | ||
| yofel | BluesKaj: the qtscript patch? that's in the archive for quantal | 17:21 |
| Riddell | qt is building now without the troublesome patch | 17:24 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1046244] plasma-desktop crashes with SIGFAULT on boot @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046244 (by Francesco Ruvolo) | 17:44 |
| JontheEchidna | http://sigfault.com/ | 17:46 |
| jussi | O/ | 17:55 |
| Riddell | hello jussi lad | 17:56 |
| jussi | GDAY Riddell | 17:56 |
| jussi | apachelogger: around at all? | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | no | 17:59 |
| jussi | apachelogger: :D | 17:59 |
| jussi | apachelogger: have you a usb headset? | 17:59 |
| Riddell | he was moaning about one only the other day | 18:00 |
| jussi | lol | 18:00 |
| jussi | I just want him to test my bug/see it in action... | 18:00 |
| apachelogger | jussi: no, well yes, not with me tho | 18:00 |
| jussi | apachelogger: ahh, ok, Ill just write the bug down then | 18:01 |
| === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter | ||
| jussi | apachelogger: kde bug 303020 | 18:34 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 303020 in general "Fallback Master Channel" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303020 | 18:34 |
| jussi | Not my bug, but same | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | yah | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | pulseaudio integration problem | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | we are going to redo kmix from ground up pretty much to fix that | 18:35 |
| jussi | apachelogger: could you click confirm on it? | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | but what be the point? :P | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | actually I am semi-certain there is a report about it somewhere | 18:38 |
| jussi | apachelogger: yes, that is the one... I didnt report it, I found it with the search | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | ah | 18:39 |
| ScottK | On the off chance whoever's doing -workspace for 4.9.1 didn't see it, mgraesslin's posted on packagers about his fix for the kwin regression. | 19:07 |
| BluesKaj | it would be nice to have an integrated master audio suite in kde , where one can setup drivers and volume IOs ctrls , codec settings for digital outs (pavucontrol atm) , all on one GUI , instead of the mishmash that's audio on kubuntu now | 19:16 |
| BluesKaj | alsa seemed to do all that until these other sound server layers were implemented 3 yrs ago ...seems alsa has lost it's way for dedicated pci soundcards which need pulseaudio to work with flashaudio on websites | 19:20 |
| BluesKaj | getting flashaudio on websites to work with alsa directly seems impossible if you run a pci soundcard | 19:21 |
| claydoh | Riddell: where/what is release-team? irc or ml? | 19:51 |
| Riddell | claydoh: a mailing list | 20:03 |
| Riddell | claydoh: and if you can snaffle the most important bugs from the quantal bugs url in the /topic and put them on the beta 1 page and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 that would be awesome | 20:13 |
| Riddell | proofreaders, how's this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu | 20:49 |
| Riddell | !testers | 20:50 |
| ubottu | Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, em | 20:50 |
| Riddell | new amd64 images | 20:50 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: can you test to see if the problem has gone away ? | 20:50 |
| soee | Problem with upgrade ? | 20:53 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, what's up? | 20:53 |
| Riddell | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds beta 1 candidate images need testing | 20:53 |
| Riddell | especially amd64 images which had a bug earlier today | 20:53 |
| Riddell | soee: I need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu proofread for sanity, no problem expected | 20:55 |
| Riddell | and images tested, testing upgrade would be good too | 20:56 |
| soee | no problem expected so i can upgrade on my home machine ? :) | 20:57 |
| Riddell | soee: sure, as long as you're aware it's still in testing | 20:57 |
| Riddell | then report success or otherwise on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds | 20:58 |
| Riddell | bug 1044657 good thing we're not shipping libreoffice this beta | 20:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1044657 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Quantal) "[regression] Missing LO menus when not run in Unity" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044657 | 20:59 |
| soee | Riddell, distribution upgrade process started | 21:01 |
| micahg | yeah, apparently it was in the version uploaded during beta freeze | 21:02 |
| BluesKaj | ``already have quantal beta installed . only bugs are the odd kate segfault , think I'll pass on reinstalling | 21:02 |
| soee | it would be nice to have soome icon for distribution upgrade window | 21:02 |
| soee | frrrr eroor :D | 21:03 |
| soee | not enough free space :o requires ~ 2.4 GB | 21:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: y u keep from going to bed :( | 21:11 |
| soee | can someone explain me why windows changes styles when going into audo mode? | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | into what mode? | 21:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it's le fixed | 21:15 |
| apachelogger | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/09/05/plasma-desktopzg2433.png | 21:15 |
| soee | why upgrade process wants to remove skype ? | 21:15 |
| soee | because ia32libs are going to be removed ? | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | possibly | 21:16 |
| * apachelogger goes to bed | 21:16 | |
| apachelogger | nini | 21:16 |
| soee | apachelogger, apps which require root password to run changes style to default | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | soee: because apps which require root access are wrong in doing it | 21:17 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: awooga, thanks for testing | 21:54 |
| soee | it looks like upgrade will take hale night | 22:15 |
| soee | *half | 22:15 |
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