[04:45] SteveRiley: ping [04:46] did you just get a Event Brite invitation? or a more proper email? [04:46] I've not been to UDS for the last 3 years, so clearly things have changed [04:46] ( somehow that eventbrite invitation landed in my spam ) [04:47] or if anyone else got that ^ [04:48] shadeslayer: yes, I think that's the new system (for this round at least) [04:48] alright, I'm coming to UDS then \o/ [04:48] micahg: for some reason it doesn't say what's sponsored and what's not though [04:49] shadeslayer: I saw you in Florida 2 years ago IIRC [04:49] micahg: yes [04:49] 10.10 right? [04:49] no, 11.04 [04:49] ah ok [04:49] * shadeslayer just got up, needs coffee [04:49] Maverick (brussels) was my first UDS [04:49] :D [04:50] 11.04 was my first ... after that something or the other came up and prevented me from attending [05:20] new KTP in PPA, nice [05:27] :) [05:27] let me know if you find issues [05:27] also, looks like I got sponsorship to UDS [05:27] \o/ === em is now known as em_ === em_ is now known as em [06:20] shadeslayer: It's just me who didn't get sponsorship mail yet T_T [06:22] Quintasan: check your spam folder [06:22] 'twas there for me [06:22] it'll be a event brite email [06:22] lawl [06:22] got it? [06:23] nope [06:23] not there [06:23] oh hmm [06:23] in:anywhere Event Brite didn't yield anything relevant [06:24] I didnt get sponsored..... [06:24] maybe sometime today? [06:24] oh wait, I didnt apply :P [06:24] lol [06:24] so no kookies for me, sigh [06:24] shadeslayer: that doesnt mean Im not coming... [06:24] oh :D [06:24] lol jussi [06:25] right, you're in Euro [06:25] *Europe [06:25] shadeslayer: its a "maybe" at the moment [06:25] I DARE YOU TO BRING THOSE DAMN FINNISH SWEETS [06:25] I DARE YOU jussi [06:25] Quintasan: hahaha [06:25] what finnish sweets [06:25] the salty ones or the hot ones? [06:25] I think you gave me the salty one [06:25] hehe [06:26] Because I think I could handle the hot one [06:26] you can probably buy them in denmark... [06:26] shadeslayer: God knows how do they call them but the salty one is awful [06:26] Salmiakki [06:26] !!!! [06:26] * Quintasan notes the name of the devil's artifact [06:26] haha [06:26] oh yay, sweets that are not sweets [06:27] shadeslayer: oh they have sugar... [06:27] I like those, sugary things make me want to vomit :P [06:27] oh [06:27] just salt also [06:27] its liquorice based [06:28] shadeslayer: If you think you like salty things then your will reconsider if jussi gives you one [06:28] :P [06:28] hehe [06:29] shadeslayer: >mfw jussi gave me one [06:29] http://rookery9.aviary.com.s3.amazonaws.com/10419500/10419640_4f0d_625x625.jpg [06:30] haha [06:31] Christ, let me know if I should get money for UDS or not [06:31] * Quintasan wonders if he can find work fast enough. [06:37] haha [06:39] Quintasan: jussi listen to this : http://www.youtube.com/user/cokestudioatmtv?feature=results_main [06:40] shadeslayer sending me music [06:40] what kind of sorcery is that [06:40] the best kind [06:41] Won't say I understand anything they sing but the music is nice [06:43] :) [06:43] However [06:43] you can't beat this [06:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k [06:44] basically, the singer is singing out the musical notes in that video [06:44] oh [06:44] see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swara [06:50] Quintasan: and that's just one song, listen to the other playlists there [06:51] so, who's on precise? [06:51] and likes Firefox [06:55] "Michal Zajac is now Offline" [06:56] hehe [07:05] bambee: great to hear your nephew likes KidMP :) [07:59] hmm when i try to run updates with muon i have this error message: operations can not be performed until a valid authorization [07:59] so all updates i have to do using terminal and going sudo [08:00] muon should prompt for password (and did it before) but even then there was a problem with locking [08:01] is it possible that this problems are caused by GNOME? I have installed KDE on normal Ubuntu installation [08:01] it was 11.04 -> installed KDE -> upgrade 12.04 [08:21] lol, my public launchpad bug just got marked as duplicate of a private one [08:22] what's the point of that? [08:23] is there any chance that https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1045755 is owned by any of the distro guys here and make it public so i can see what my bug was marked as duplicate? [08:23] Error: malone bug 1045755 not found [08:24] Precise is an excellent LTS... really... kde 4.8 is really stable and fast :) [08:35] Riddell: okular moving to universe? [08:38] tsdgeos: it's in universe [08:38] almost all of kde has been moved there [08:38] which is good, less faff and no translations in launchpad [08:38] Riddell: maybe now you can fix the packaging and include the epub backend? [08:38] oh it's there already [08:38] * tsdgeos hits himself [08:39] yep, another advantage [08:39] okular-extra-backends.install:usr/lib/kde4/okularGenerator_epub.so [08:39] Riddell: so you can set https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdegraphics/+bug/277007 as fixed then ;-) [08:40] Launchpad bug 277007 in kdegraphics (Ubuntu) "The package claims to support CHM files but it does not" [Wishlist,Fix released] [08:40] it's already set to fixed [08:40] okular-extra-backends.install:usr/lib/kde4/okularGenerator_chmlib.so [08:40] well [08:40] just half of it [08:40] the other half says unconfirmed or something [08:41] Unknown [08:43] hmm, I don't know if I can correct that [08:47] !testers [08:47] Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, em [08:47] mega beta 1 testing needed [08:47] mega? [08:47] as in everything needs tested by tomorrow [08:54] tsdgeos: that bug is already public [08:55] ah someone marked it public 20 minutes ago [08:55] shadeslayer: sure, because i complained ;-) [08:55] ^_^ [08:56] I hope I don't exceed my 3G Data usage [09:12] * Riddell feels left out without confirmation or not of uds sponsorship [09:12] agateau: did you apply for sponsorship? [09:12] Riddell: I did [09:12] agateau: get anything back? [09:13] Riddell: not yet [09:13] * agateau checks [09:13] hmm, I hope they don't hold a grudge against us! [09:14] Riddell: i assume we would at least receive a refusal message [09:19] agateau: Riddell check yer spam [09:19] shadeslayer: I just did [09:19] ah ok [09:19] they're being slow, that's what it is :) [09:19] ( my invitation was in Spam ) [09:27] mine was in spam folder also [09:28] ::qt-bugs:: [1045755] assistant-qt4 crashed with SIGSEGV in MainWindow::updateApplicationFont() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1045755 (by Alexander Langanke) [09:39] shadeslayer: err aye, in my spam it is [09:39] agateau: worth double checking [09:41] Riddell: who's the sender? [09:41] invite@eventbrite.com [09:42] thanks [09:44] Riddell: nope, no luck for me :/ [09:44] I mean, no mail [09:45] agateau: mhall119 is the guy to nudge I beleive [09:45] ok [09:45] Tm_T: you're coming? [09:46] Riddell: so, are you sponsored? [09:46] agateau: yep, they still like me [09:46] good :) [09:47] Riddell: when did it arrive? [09:47] 11:08 (23 hours ago) [09:48] ok, I'll wait until tomorrow then [09:48] afiestas, apol_: either of you apply? [09:49] Riddell: for UDS? I didn't [09:58] Riddell: w00t :D [09:59] Riddell: i did, didn0t giot any email [09:59] should I get one either way? [09:59] afiestas: unsure, agateau is also lacking one [09:59] afiestas: did you check spam? [10:00] Riddell: I will try, still have to convince my employer and then home [10:00] Riddell: nope [10:01] afiestas: check spam for invite@eventbrite.com [10:01] mmm nope [10:03] shadeslayer: yay your plasma-desktop init script patch worked, you're a genius [10:03] :) [10:04] afiestas: nudge mhall119 if you don't get one soon [10:04] any ideas what should I link against if I use KNotifyConfigWidget? [10:07] shadeslayer: libknotifyconfig.so ? [10:07] at a guess [10:07] sure, but I can't find the appropriate var name :D [10:07] for CMakeLists [10:08] ./src/CMakeLists.txt: ${KDE4_KNOTIFYCONFIG_LIBRARY} [10:08] says konsole sources [10:08] <3 [10:09] mm, this beta image is much better than yesterdays, whatever was making it boot up slow has gone too [10:10] hah :D [10:11] just need to figure out the notificationrc file now [10:12] remember to killall knotify4 before testing any changes to it [10:13] seen people waste whole days wondering why changes don't make any difference on that [10:14] hehe :) [10:24] JontheEchidna: does qapt need to create its own index on first use? [10:24] or is that a xapian thing I see the progress bar for in the corner of muon? [10:24] mm must be, update-apt-xapian is running [10:31] Riddell: I do wonder, did you start muon right after login of a new system? [10:32] I did this time yes [10:32] because I very much believe the update ought to be triggered by update checking which does not kick in until 1 minute after kded was started [10:32] ah then I might be testing too much :) [10:32] *update of xapian being triggered by muon's update notifier that is ^^ [10:32] Riddell: yah, it's a marginal design issue [10:33] well "issue" [10:33] if we had not moved update checking back one minute it would xapian update right at login [10:33] suffice to say that this would make first login even more sluggish [10:49] mhhhh [10:54] whee, per contact notifications done in ktp :) [10:55] shadeslayer: what does that mean? [10:55] "I only want to be bothered by shadeslayer, nobody else is worthy of a popup on my screen"? [10:55] Riddell: now you can stalk people as they come online [10:55] yes :P [10:56] you can change the settings so that there's a notification as soon as I come online [10:56] at last, I'll never miss your presense again! :) [10:57] ^_^ [10:57] next up is jussi's request for password protected jabber chatrooms [10:57] oh [10:57] I forgot meta-kde [10:57] wooh [10:57] also [10:57] ^_^ [10:57] Riddell: why is no one using meta-kde bzr branch? Oo [10:58] ah [10:58] only ubuntu3 missing [10:58] -> goes off to find something to eat [10:58] (as usual) [10:58] shadeslayer: +++++++++++++ [10:58] bbl [10:58] funy how we have ubuntu3 not in the archive :O [10:58] Riddell: what's up with that? [10:59] apachelogger: my fail? [10:59] well, you upped it to ninjas [10:59] * Bump to 4.9.0 [10:59] -- Jonathan Riddell Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:06:05 +0100 [11:00] I guess we'll simply do 4.9.1 as ubuntu3 upload to archive [11:00] apachelogger: that would save me from looking bad :) [11:01] ^^ [11:01] Riddell: btw, if you have a minute ... https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages do you get 404s when trying to access files there? [11:02] been getting them with buildlogs too, so it is getting a bit suspicious [11:03] apachelogger: analitza_4.9.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1.dsc downloads fine [11:03] Riddell: and meta-kde? [11:04] kde-full_76~pre1ubuntu3~ppa1_all.deb and kdemultimedia_76~pre1ubuntu3~ppa1_all.deb: fine [11:04] meta-kde_76~pre1ubuntu3~ppa1.dsc fine too [11:05] hm, so lunchpad really doesn't like me [11:05] -.- [11:05] maybe so [11:05] apachelogger: let me know if you need me to download anything [11:17] oh la la [11:18] shadeslayer commited a new upstream release to kde4libs and that is now messing with my dpkg-build [11:18] boohooo I say, good sir [11:19] Riddell: libqapt will need the apt xapian index to be present before search functionality will work, yes. [11:20] JontheEchidna: does update notifier trigger that? [11:20] Currently, when a LibQApt client initializes the QApt::Backend object, it compares the time stamp of the apt cache and xapian cache. [11:20] and then uses the qapt worker to invoke update-apt-xapian-index as root [11:20] the notifier doesn't have anything to do with it tho [11:21] but perhaps it could, as it takes ~5-15 seconds to build the cache from scratch [11:21] making a ~5-15 second peroid where search will not work right off the bat [11:21] if the notifier did that, we could hope that the notifier's xapian update will get done before the user wants to start up the muon package manager [11:22] was that your thought? [11:22] aye [11:22] I think only the first start scenario is affected anyway [11:22] makes a good bit of sense. I gotta get ready for classes tho [11:22] after that IIRC xapian will update automatically when something in the database changes, no? [11:22] otherwise it would be even better [11:23] I seem to have to manually invoke it whenever the apt cache changes [11:23] 90% of cases you do not log in and start the package manager right away [11:23] JontheEchidna: why that is sort of spooky [11:23] well, it's not a daemon, so.... === shumski_ is now known as shumski [11:23] in that case periodic triggers via the update daemon would be cool ;) [11:23] I think it has a daily cron job or smth [11:24] nvm, it doesn't [11:24] I realize it is not a daemon, but there certainly could/should be some sort of hook functionality to enable it to do smaller incremental updates than once a day, or once someone triggers it [11:26] yeah, that'd be nice. though it does go a lot quicker if there's a cache already and you invoke an update over dbus [11:26] compared to starting with nothing [11:27] all I know is that somehow it provides sub-100 ms searches (in most cases) that provide mostly relevant results (in most cases) [11:27] yeah, but from a purely architectural pov that still can turn out bad when between two updates a large number of changes occured [11:27] apachelogger: sorry about that, didn't realize that the script pushed changes as well [11:27] shadeslayer: yeah it does [11:27] * apachelogger does not like it [11:28] indeed, I realized it after it had pushed it [11:28] I will probably work on a design proposal that allows for better scaling [11:28] :) [11:28] i.e. the you-need-to-restart-from-sctach-on-fail is pissing me off royally [11:28] haha [11:29] shadeslayer: did you push more than kde4libs? [11:29] so, this hospital is weird ... no 4th and 13th floors [11:29] :O [11:29] apachelogger: I don't *think* so, but I could be wrong [11:30] covering both the chinese and western superstitions, I suppose [11:30] lol [11:30] JontheEchidna: didn't realize there was a superstition about the 4th floor [11:31] * apachelogger mumbles something about needing a hair cut and starts a search for the holy grail^Wphone [11:31] apparently the word for "4" sounds like "hell" in chinese [11:31] oh .. wow [11:31] so it's considered unlucky [11:32] why that was obvious [11:32] I did wonder if we should jump straight to KDE 5 back in the day, but the chinese guy I asked said not to worry [11:32] :P [11:32] good news everyone! [11:32] :D [11:32] half of .1 was not uploaded and I do not know why [11:32] lol [11:33] apachelogger: I did see half of .1 in ninjas and assumed you uploaded it [11:33] on purpose [11:33] well, I uploaded all except the 3 pkgs that did not build a source [11:33] hm [11:33] and according to dput's upload files everything was upped [11:34] http://paste.kde.org/544352/ [11:35] launchpad was hungry and ate them [11:35] yah [11:36] lunchpad doesn't like me anymore it seems [11:36] it's also not like I got an email about it being rejected or anything [11:36] maybe they got rejected ? [11:36] ah ... [11:36] email about it being accepted ? [11:36] well they clearly got rejected [11:36] lunchpad just doesn't tell me about it [11:37] (there is no record of lunchpad ever knowing about the package) [11:37] ohooooo! [11:38] they are not signed [11:39] hrrhrr [11:42] probably was bad copy'n'paste on my part, one line being newlined before the end screwing up half the signing [11:47] anyone able to test beta 1 candidate amd64 CD? since someone has reported plasma crashes on startup on it http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds/22548/testcases [11:48] no stick available [11:50] * apachelogger complains about the lack of backtrace [11:52] claydoh: yo [11:52] hi Riddell just got home, and irc back online [11:53] will be doing release stuff today after sleep, then I get to replace motherboard in my laptop yay! [11:57] thanks claydoh :) [11:58] Riddell: bzr: ERROR: An error (1) occurred running quilt: Patch kubuntu_plasma_init_script.diff does not exist [11:58] kde-workspace [11:59] you forgot to commit the diff [11:59] (bzr issues sure a common these days :() [11:59] gah [12:00] apachelogger: committed [12:00] danke [12:02] Riddell: apachelogger: anything you or anyone feels needing inclusion in the notes, please let me know [12:06] howdy folks === smarter_ is now known as smarter [12:10] shadeslayer: did you push your missing commit to kdenetwork yet? [12:23] 15 packages still missing from ninjas [12:23] http://paste.kde.org/544370/ [12:23] if anyone wants to pick that up, I'll be away for an hour or so [12:23] also libs is ftbfs [12:23] hooray [12:27] libs needs the so names changed everywhere to .1 [12:27] * apachelogger gone now [12:53] hi mparillo [12:54] Riddell: Hi. [12:59] claydoh: search through my posts to release-team to get feature updates [13:05] huh ? my missing commit ? also I will most likely not be able to do a lot today, most likely tomorrow ... [13:05] apachelogger: ^ [13:07] only have 75 MB's of data left :P [13:12] nobody type anything, it'll waste shadeslayer's bandwidth! [13:12] ^_^ [13:12] shadeslayer: how come you're so short? [13:13] Riddell: not at home, and recharged with the cheapest plan that was available for data [13:14] I didn't realize I would be staying at the hospital overnight [13:14] mm, someone ill? [13:15] yeah, my uncle ... [13:16] best of luck with that then [13:17] oh, they say they'll discharge him tomorrow :) [13:18] could someone test ff from : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra [13:25] * Riddell installs [13:26] shadeslayer: starts up, what am I looking for? [13:27] Riddell: things like the save dialog should be the one from KDE [13:27] shadeslayer: nope :( [13:27] O_o [13:27] correct version et all ? [13:28] firefox: Installed: 15.0+build1-0ubuntu2~ppa3 [13:28] seems to be [13:30] Riddell: what about the open dialog [13:30] and by save dialog I mean the ui that pops up and asks where you want to save things [13:30] shadeslayer: ugly and gtk [13:30] humbug [13:33] ScottK: if no one is working on the ibus stuff we should separate it from 4.8.5 and upload it proposed [13:36] Riddell: precise ? [13:38] nvm [13:42] Riddell: works just fine here [13:44] how odd [13:44] ah I know [13:44] Riddell: you need Firefox-kde-support [13:46] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde [13:48] shadeslayer, is that still FF 14.1 in the ppa ? or is it upgraded to 15 yet ? [13:49] BluesKaj: I need testers for precise + ff 15 [13:49] see backlog [13:52] ok , I'm on quantal here ... my precise install is maintained with stable apps , hence my stable fallback OS [13:54] hmm , you can test for quantal as well [13:55] shadeslayer, ok I'll test FF 15 on quantal if you wish [13:55] :( [13:55] erm [13:55] :) [13:55] yeah :) [13:56] make sure you install Firefox-kde-support from the blue shell ppa [13:56] :( [13:56] * shadeslayer tickles apachelogger [13:57] shadeslayer: you uploadered kdednetwork but did not commit/push to bzr [13:57] ah [13:57] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+changelog [13:57] * shadeslayer tickles apachelogger some more [13:57] the mighty lunchpad knows it all [13:58] anyone uploaded anything while I was away? [13:58] WRT .1 [13:59] don't think so [13:59] u all lazy, me sad [14:01] debfx: OK. There'a also a Kamera patch that just went into Debian we probably want. [14:01] apachelogger: just strapped for bandwidth today [14:02] it's because Riddell types so much! [14:02] :P [14:03] * apachelogger picks nose while waiting for kdelibs to proudce a source pkg [14:06] ::runtime-bugs:: [1011961] sftp connection with password fails @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1011961 (by Arrigo Marchiori) [14:06] shadeslayer: mm, nice and KDE now [14:06] what's this then? bug day? [14:06] yay [14:08] shadeslayer, is that a different FF-kde-support than the one for 14.1 ? [14:09] because I have FF kde-support already installed [14:10] BluesKaj: nope, that's fine [14:10] just upgrade ff [14:10] shadeslayer, ok good [14:11] yup already did [14:11] apachelogger: me thinks we can drop kde.js [14:11] shadeslayer: me thinks we can drop kde.js when the mighty opensuse does [14:11] just need to talk to opensuse people as to why they have it [14:11] yeah [14:12] ask wstephenson [14:12] *will ask ... [14:34] Quintasan_: did you get some sort of confirmation for UDS? [15:06] Riddell: I can reproduce the crashery of plasma on amd64 [15:06] qt 4.8.2 bug that is [15:11] actually [15:11] Riddell: are we going for .3 in quantal? [15:16] YES [15:16] THEY FIXED MY INTERNET [15:16] shadeslayer: [15:16] nope [15:16] not yet, strange [15:16] :( === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:16] oh man i know that feeling..broken internet [15:16] heh [15:16] * apachelogger tickles Quintasan [15:17] apachelogger: what? [15:17] I didn't break anything [15:17] Quintasan: I was born with a broken internet, you merely adopted it [15:18] * apachelogger shrugs and fires up the dragon [15:18] shadeslayer: What was the sender name again? [15:18] uh [15:19] invite@eventbrite.com [15:20] nope [15:20] nothing [15:20] Who do I blame for this? [15:20] ask Marianna or Mhall [15:25] sooo ..... no precise users? [15:26] Riddell: I can't backtrace tho :( [15:26] shadeslayer: no [15:27] I use maverick [15:27] good on you [15:40] shadeslayer: Ha, mhall said some mails didn [15:40] didn't make it [15:40] so you're coming? [15:41] dunno [15:41] ah ok [15:42] haha, my dad sent me this link: http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2012/9/4/how-to-judge.html [15:42] I'm fairly sure we've had the conversation on the bottom-left panel ;-) [15:51] lol === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [15:59] apachelogger: uh oh, does it just crash on boot up? [16:01] yep [16:01] well, when you choose the login option and the session starts [16:02] damn [16:02] I actually cannot find the Qt bug [16:02] but it is the same crash as seen here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305913 [16:02] KDE bug 305913 in general "Kate crashes upon startup" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] [16:02] I think amarok has that too [16:03] ug [16:06] qscript to blame? [16:06] could be patch kubuntu_36_qtscript_64bit.diff recommended by KDevelop authors. Fix JIT crash on x86-64 [16:07] oh, very possible [16:07] I only saw kubuntu based reports thus far [16:08] apachelogger: if you can't get a backtrace what makes you think it's https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305913 ? [16:08] KDE bug 305913 in general "Kate crashes upon startup" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] [16:08] Riddell: unless qtscript is completely broken there ought not be that many reasons to crash in a ctor [16:10] hmm, I wonder how to assess how common this bug is, would be bad to release a beta which crashes on boot up for lots of people [16:10] * apachelogger needs to look at patch [16:11] Riddell: I'd say potentially all of 64bit is affected though [16:11] worked fine for me [16:12] well, I only tried in vbox so all of vbox + 64bit ;) [16:13] we do have a lot of patches in qt [16:14] read: we have too many patches in qt [16:16] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qt/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_01_fix_build_glib_231.diff [16:16] apachelogger, some are probly needed , getting Qt errors in kate segfaults here on quantal [16:16] half a year is a long temporary [16:16] BluesKaj: huh? [16:16] please elaborate [16:17] danimo: when is qt 4.8.3 due? I noticed it is already tagged [16:17] wish I would have saved that last pastebin ..hangon [16:17] apachelogger: I have no idea frankly [16:17] apachelogger: did you try asking in #qt-labs? [16:17] nah, too lazy [16:18] apachelogger: I think due to the transfer things got a bit deferred [16:20] rdieter: I see bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305718 is reported on fedora too, do you use that qtscript-on-64bit patch the kdevelop guys recommended for qt? [16:20] KDE bug 305718 in qt "Several applications crash in QtScript initialization [@__memcpy_sse2, QTJSC::JIT::privateCompileCTIMachineTrampolines]" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [16:20] Riddell: yes, we reverted the patch [16:22] Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685524 [16:22] Debian bug 685524 in qt4-x11 "After upgrading to 4:4.8.2+dfsg-1 kwin segfaults on startup" [Grave,Fixed] [16:23] Riddell: and added a comment @ https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-23871 about the badness [16:23] it's interesting how we are the only distro not noticing :P [16:24] seems to only happen on some hardware, not easily reproducible [16:24] Riddell: so that seems vastly hardware dependent [16:24] rdieter: yeah [16:25] Riddell: IMHO that ought to be fixed for beta [16:25] beta is the time when people start looking at things, potentially having a half broken system seems a bit ... wrong [16:25] apachelogger: question is do we just throw up qt without that patch and rebuild the ISOs or do we test it first somehow [16:26] Riddell: given the time constraints I'd go with former [16:26] we know it worked without the patch [16:26] apachelogger, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305913 [16:26] KDE bug 305913 in general "Kate crashes upon startup" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] [16:26] so assuming the patches-should-not-depend-conflict-with-each-other rule was applied properly [16:26] qt should work all the same without the patch [16:27] hmm, resolved ? ...not here [16:27] BluesKaj: it's the issue we are talking about right now [16:28] right apachelogger , good to know [16:34] uploading 6 more packages to ninjas, I hope this time libs builds [16:38] hm none of the 4.9.1 packages have the kdelibs5-dev build-dependency bumped to >= 4.9.1 [16:39] page started for UDS http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-uds === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Quantal bugs: http://goo.gl/ESmab | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | apachelogger: SRU plymouth logo & fix ipod support & cleanup ftpmaster access | UDS-R: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-uds [16:41] agateau, afiestas, Quintasan: marianna sent around an e-mail to sponsored people and you weren't in the To: line so I guess you didn't make it [16:42] I recommend you e-mail kubuntu-devel asking for sponsorship from the kubuntu-council and why you deserve it and we can decide on that next week [16:42] ::qt-bugs:: [1046244] plasma-desktop crashes with SIGFAULT on boot @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046244 (by Francesco Ruvolo) [16:44] Riddell: will have to follow uds online, at least this year is in my timezone more or less xd [16:46] afiestas: you don't fancy coming on kubuntu's expenses? [16:46] mmm I have mix feelings about that [16:46] well we work best as a distro when there's some upstream people around to keep us right [16:49] Riddell: no upstream got sponsored this time? [16:49] nope [16:57] gosh canonical's expense sheet really is an Excel file, I thought that was just a malitious rumour [16:58] at least they don't have the old distorted ubuntu logo on there anymroe [16:58] oh, yeah. I've used it before [16:58] (but they still use Arial :-/) [17:02] apachelogger, which ninja ppa should I look at for the Qt patches when they are finished building ? [17:09] BluesKaj: ninja is in no usable condition [17:11] yeah apachelogger I find it confusing and totally disorganized [17:11] the whole setup [17:11] what steup? [17:12] the ppa pages etc [17:12] don't unstand [17:12] also can't type apparently [17:12] s/unstand/understand/ [17:12] apachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [17:16] apachelogger, guess I don't understand either === shumski_ is now known as shumski [17:21] BluesKaj: the qtscript patch? that's in the archive for quantal [17:24] qt is building now without the troublesome patch [17:44] ::qt-bugs:: [1046244] plasma-desktop crashes with SIGFAULT on boot @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046244 (by Francesco Ruvolo) [17:46] http://sigfault.com/ [17:55] O/ [17:56] hello jussi lad [17:56] GDAY Riddell [17:59] apachelogger: around at all? [17:59] no [17:59] apachelogger: :D [17:59] apachelogger: have you a usb headset? [18:00] he was moaning about one only the other day [18:00] lol [18:00] I just want him to test my bug/see it in action... [18:00] jussi: no, well yes, not with me tho [18:01] apachelogger: ahh, ok, Ill just write the bug down then === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [18:34] apachelogger: kde bug 303020 [18:34] KDE bug 303020 in general "Fallback Master Channel" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303020 [18:34] Not my bug, but same [18:35] yah [18:35] pulseaudio integration problem [18:35] we are going to redo kmix from ground up pretty much to fix that [18:36] apachelogger: could you click confirm on it? [18:38] but what be the point? :P [18:38] actually I am semi-certain there is a report about it somewhere [18:38] apachelogger: yes, that is the one... I didnt report it, I found it with the search [18:39] ah [19:07] On the off chance whoever's doing -workspace for 4.9.1 didn't see it, mgraesslin's posted on packagers about his fix for the kwin regression. [19:16] it would be nice to have an integrated master audio suite in kde , where one can setup drivers and volume IOs ctrls , codec settings for digital outs (pavucontrol atm) , all on one GUI , instead of the mishmash that's audio on kubuntu now [19:20] alsa seemed to do all that until these other sound server layers were implemented 3 yrs ago ...seems alsa has lost it's way for dedicated pci soundcards which need pulseaudio to work with flashaudio on websites [19:21] getting flashaudio on websites to work with alsa directly seems impossible if you run a pci soundcard [19:51] Riddell: where/what is release-team? irc or ml? [20:03] claydoh: a mailing list [20:13] claydoh: and if you can snaffle the most important bugs from the quantal bugs url in the /topic and put them on the beta 1 page and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 that would be awesome [20:49] proofreaders, how's this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu [20:50] !testers [20:50] Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, em [20:50] new amd64 images [20:50] apachelogger: can you test to see if the problem has gone away ? [20:53] Problem with upgrade ? [20:53] Riddell, what's up? [20:53] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds beta 1 candidate images need testing [20:53] especially amd64 images which had a bug earlier today [20:55] soee: I need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu proofread for sanity, no problem expected [20:56] and images tested, testing upgrade would be good too [20:57] no problem expected so i can upgrade on my home machine ? :) [20:57] soee: sure, as long as you're aware it's still in testing [20:58] then report success or otherwise on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds [20:59] bug 1044657 good thing we're not shipping libreoffice this beta [20:59] Launchpad bug 1044657 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Quantal) "[regression] Missing LO menus when not run in Unity" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044657 [21:01] Riddell, distribution upgrade process started [21:02] yeah, apparently it was in the version uploaded during beta freeze [21:02] ``already have quantal beta installed . only bugs are the odd kate segfault , think I'll pass on reinstalling [21:02] it would be nice to have soome icon for distribution upgrade window [21:03] frrrr eroor :D [21:03] not enough free space :o requires ~ 2.4 GB [21:11] Riddell: y u keep from going to bed :( [21:13] can someone explain me why windows changes styles when going into audo mode? [21:14] into what mode? [21:15] Riddell: it's le fixed [21:15] http://wstaw.org/m/2012/09/05/plasma-desktopzg2433.png [21:15] why upgrade process wants to remove skype ? [21:16] because ia32libs are going to be removed ? [21:16] possibly [21:16] * apachelogger goes to bed [21:16] nini [21:16] apachelogger, apps which require root password to run changes style to default [21:17] soee: because apps which require root access are wrong in doing it [21:54] apachelogger: awooga, thanks for testing [22:15] it looks like upgrade will take hale night [22:15] *half