| silverarrow | hi margo | 01:21 |
|---|---|---|
| margo | hi silverarrow | 01:22 |
| silverarrow | I am trouble shooting gecko - gnome mplayer issues for powerpc | 01:23 |
| silverarrow | are you clever with mplayer issues? | 01:25 |
| silverarrow | margo: I am getting help from a guy who makes gnome mplayer | 01:26 |
| silverarrow | but need to retreive some info | 01:26 |
| silverarrow | so much for margo | 01:27 |
| === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi | ||
| silverarrow | after I got the battery indicator working, the screen dormant modes have changed | 06:04 |
| thomas___ | hi, i'm trying to figure out how to maintain keyboard preferences between reboots - any advice? everytime i reboot they get reset, and i have to setup my keyboard preferences again | 10:55 |
| kanliot | thomas___, what kind of settings? | 11:14 |
| thomas___ | kanliot: i want to set extended gb keyboard, and swap the win key for th e alt key | 11:23 |
| thomas___ | i've found /etc/default/keyboard, but of course, can't do anything with it | 11:23 |
| kanliot | r u using lxkeymap? | 11:24 |
| thomas___ | yes | 11:25 |
| kanliot | using 12.04? | 11:27 |
| thomas___ | i think so - how do i find out? | 11:27 |
| kanliot | !version | 11:28 |
| ubottu | To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> » | 11:28 |
| thomas___ | thanks, and yes 12.04 | 11:29 |
| thomas___ | mhh, i've edited /etc/default/keyboard, can i restart the keyboard manager without rebooting? | 11:30 |
| kanliot | donno | 11:30 |
| thomas___ | rebooting then | 11:31 |
| Riddhish | My lubuntu installation is stuck at "Install System" since a long time after Downloading packages.. Any possible reasons? Should I turn it off? | 14:15 |
| holstein | Riddhish: i dont download packages during the install | 14:20 |
| holstein | Riddhish: that could take a long time, or fail... i would wait as long as you feel you can | 14:20 |
| wxl | silverarrow: sounds like a bunch of work has recently been completed on the lubuntu 12.10 ppc and many more to come https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-qa/msg01169.html | 18:08 |
| silverarrow | how great | 18:08 |
| wxl | now might be a good time to consider joining the testing team | 18:09 |
| silverarrow | then I don't have to migrate to debian | 18:09 |
| silverarrow | ;-) | 18:09 |
| silverarrow | it is? | 18:09 |
| wxl | sure | 18:09 |
| silverarrow | I am not the cleverest of testers though, | 18:09 |
| wxl | let's think about it: you haven't found a solution you're happy with, so you're already thinking about getting rid of what you got | 18:10 |
| silverarrow | I can install 12.10 at least, | 18:10 |
| silverarrow | perhaps it is possible to upgrade? | 18:10 |
| wxl | that being said, continuously testing new upgrades is giong to be easy to do | 18:10 |
| wxl | (you won't lose anything) | 18:10 |
| silverarrow | I see | 18:10 |
| wxl | when you find a problem, you report the bug. try to be as detailed as you can. you don't have to understand everything, just report what you see. | 18:10 |
| wxl | the important thing is that until 12.10 is officially released, there are daily changes that need testing | 18:11 |
| silverarrow | is it possible to initate an upgrade from 12.04 to the beta version, or is a new install recommended? | 18:11 |
| wxl | you don't need to test daily but the more you do the better | 18:11 |
| wxl | as a general rule i would not plan on having one of these dailies (or even the beta) be your final solution | 18:11 |
| silverarrow | I see | 18:12 |
| wxl | but testing on them will ensure that when the release is out, you are close as possible to what you want | 18:12 |
| wxl | see here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing | 18:12 |
| silverarrow | I would need to do a full intall | 18:13 |
| wxl | that's one of the options | 18:13 |
| wxl | here are the four testcases for an example http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/22391/testcases | 18:13 |
| silverarrow | this is a fairly stable situation, where I can work and store my writing on a usb connected hd? | 18:13 |
| silverarrow | what needs to be stable really is the word processor | 18:14 |
| wxl | again, i would not expect these to be perfect. sometimes things go very awry. i'd save your writing elsewhere. | 18:14 |
| silverarrow | it would make the testing much easier | 18:14 |
| wxl | i've had dailies that really need a lot of work to boot, but usually those sorts of problems are resolved fairly quickly | 18:14 |
| wxl | in general, you should be good | 18:15 |
| silverarrow | ok, | 18:15 |
| silverarrow | should I go for install now then | 18:15 |
| wxl | as far as i remember i've been running 12.10 since it first came out | 18:15 |
| wxl | but again, the FORMAL testing procedure is what's giong to matter | 18:15 |
| wxl | you follow the test cases exactly and report bugs as you see them | 18:15 |
| wxl | and then do ove | 18:16 |
| wxl | (do over i mean) | 18:16 |
| wxl | again and again | 18:16 |
| silverarrow | I see | 18:16 |
| wxl | might be good to join the lubuntu-qa mailing list | 18:16 |
| wxl | basically the more you contribute the better it will be | 18:16 |
| silverarrow | so lubuntu, then | 18:16 |
| silverarrow | I was thinking about xubuntu, but happily stick with lubuntu | 18:17 |
| wxl | also do you know the tracker for gnome-mplayer? i found an x86 bug that they suggested i post upstream | 18:17 |
| wxl | as i said yesterday it seems that lubuntu has become the sort of de facto ppc build | 18:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | !info gnome-mplayer | 18:17 |
| ubottu | gnome-mplayer (source: gnome-mplayer): A GTK+ interface for MPlayer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.5-1 (precise), package size 395 kB, installed size 1677 kB | 18:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | ... oh right no botty :P | 18:17 |
| wxl | that was unnecessary | 18:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl: is the bug in Ubuntu? | 18:18 |
| wxl | ;) | 18:18 |
| silverarrow | tracker? I have posted bugs for gnome mplaeyr ppc | 18:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl: actually was, needed the source name ;P | 18:18 |
| wxl | TheLordOfTime: it's in EVERY buntu | 18:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl: the bug | 18:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | has it been REPORTED in ubuntu | 18:18 |
| wxl | yep | 18:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | bug number? | 18:18 |
| wxl | and in the bug report, it was suggested to report it upstream | 18:18 |
| wxl | one sec | 18:18 |
| * TheLordOfTime was going to help you "upstream" it | 18:18 | |
| silverarrow | I have been posting back and forth with a KEvin who are involved with gnome mplayer | 18:19 |
| wxl | !bug 654047 | 18:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 654047 in gnome-mplayer (Ubuntu) "Stop button restarts playback instead of stopping" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654047 | 18:19 |
| silverarrow | but is sort of came to a hault | 18:19 |
| wxl | silverarrow: what's your bug number? cuz that's what i was suggesting: moving it upstream. maybe TheLordOfTime could help there, too | 18:19 |
| TheLordOfTime | depends on the bug :P | 18:21 |
| wxl | silverarrow: i should add the long and short of the reason why i think you should be a tester is because you are so intent on fixing the problems. that sort of drive and perseverence is the true sign of a good tester. we just need to formalize your contributions. | 18:21 |
| silverarrow | you have persuaded me, I am downloading | 18:22 |
| silverarrow | I shall have to be active here on the lubuntu channel a lot then | 18:22 |
| silverarrow | i will ask and be a nusanse | 18:22 |
| TheLordOfTime | you know what | 18:22 |
| wxl | silverarrow: i would also suggest to help the long term repeated testing that you use zsync. don't worry, you can use it next time. | 18:22 |
| TheLordOfTime | that bug has not enough information | 18:22 |
| TheLordOfTime | that's why it was marked incomplete | 18:23 |
| wxl | it was, because no one had tested with 1.0.6-1, which i did, TheLordOfTime | 18:23 |
| TheLordOfTime | and you're not the bug reporter? | 18:23 |
| wxl | seems that the originally reporter neglected his/her own bug | 18:23 |
| * TheLordOfTime is double checking | 18:23 | |
| wxl | nope | 18:23 |
| silverarrow | I reported a bug with 1.0.6, but someone marked it a dulpicate of 1.0.5 | 18:23 |
| * wxl is a recent add to lubuntu package team so i get updates of expired bugs and that's how i noticed | 18:24 | |
| wxl | give us the bug number, silverarrow | 18:24 |
| silverarrow | I had the 1.0.6 packages built in precise 12.04 | 18:24 |
| silverarrow | let me google | 18:24 |
| silverarrow | download takes 4 hours? | 18:25 |
| wxl | depends on your connection | 18:25 |
| wxl | but another way to ensure that it doesn't take long in the future is to use zsync. zsync only downloads the part that's different | 18:25 |
| silverarrow | I need to get wired | 18:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl: did you guys check in quantal? | 18:25 |
| wxl | so if only 5% of it has changed, you only download 5% | 18:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl: for that bug, did you check in Quantal's 1.0.6 package? | 18:26 |
| wxl | TheLordOfTime: apparently my last note there isn't clear. i tested in 12.10 (quantal) which is where 1.0.6-1 is current. i posted the results. | 18:26 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl: looks like a *different* bug now | 18:26 |
| TheLordOfTime | if the original bug was fixed in 1.0.6, it shouldn't be upstreamed | 18:27 |
| TheLordOfTime | if there's a *different* bug, i.e. the one you said...] | 18:27 |
| TheLordOfTime | that needs its own upstreaming | 18:27 |
| wxl | hey man, i'm just repeating what was suggested, but yes XD | 18:27 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm not going to upstream bug 654047 since that's already "fixed" | 18:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 654047 in gnome-mplayer (Ubuntu) "Stop button restarts playback instead of stopping" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/654047 | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | if you file another bug i'll help upstream that | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | but tag it as Quantal | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | (or use `ubuntu-bug gnome-mplayer` from a quantal system) | 18:28 |
| silverarrow | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gecko-mediaplayer/+bug/1025815 | 18:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1025815 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "gecko package for ppc is broken" [Undecided,New] | 18:29 |
| wxl | sounds good | 18:29 |
| silverarrow | I shall get better at reporting bugs | 18:29 |
| wxl | curious question: for people who are trying to use "lts" or for whatever reason are using an old version, will the fix ever trickle down? | 18:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl: only if someone submits a patch to fix it | 18:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | or you could have the package backported | 18:30 |
| TheLordOfTime | (1.0.6 being backported would allow 1.0.6 to run on Precise, but that's a more tricky process) | 18:30 |
| wxl | i see | 18:30 |
| TheLordOfTime | silverarrow: wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs <-- for future | 18:30 |
| wxl | package management has its pros and cons | 18:30 |
| TheLordOfTime | it may be ubuntu docs for bugs, but the process is still the same for triaging | 18:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | silverarrow: phillw commented on that bug. i'm not touching it because its still "new" | 18:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | that, and i'm not sure whether its an FFox or a gecko issue | 18:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | silverarrow: if it eventually gets to "confirmed" then i'll consider upstreaming it | 18:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | i usually don't upstream "new" bugs | 18:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | (I meaning me personally, not the rest of bugsquad/bugcontrol) | 18:34 |
| * TheLordOfTime notices PHP is segfaulting for the 89th time this week, gets out the package purger, and preps to downgrade php on his system | 18:35 | |
| TheLordOfTime | ping me if ya need me | 18:35 |
| silverarrow | I am on the G4 now | 18:37 |
| TheLordOfTime | so you missed my last few messages? | 18:37 |
| silverarrow | yes | 18:37 |
| silverarrow | mozilla got messed up | 18:37 |
| TheLordOfTime | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1187645/ | 18:37 |
| silverarrow | it`s all rightr | 18:38 |
| silverarrow | needs more investigation | 18:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | that's why i'm not going to touch it | 18:39 |
| silverarrow | however, it is much the same as with 1.0.5 I think | 18:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | still needs confirmation wherever | 18:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | by someone else | 18:39 |
| silverarrow | and I am not the cleverest with these things, but I will happily do what testing I can | 18:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | not by the OP | 18:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | :P | 18:39 |
| wxl | bug 1046479 please confirm TheLordOfTime | 18:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1046479 in gnome-mplayer (Ubuntu) "stop button causes short playback before stop; playback resumes at this accelerated position" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046479 | 18:40 |
| silverarrow | is there a torrent for the beta version? | 18:40 |
| wxl | (since it seems you're on quantal) | 18:40 |
| silverarrow | 1 hour and 40 minutes | 18:40 |
| wxl | and if you can confirm, then it's not new, in which case you can move it upstream XD | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl: i'm not on quantal | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm on precise. | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | i can't run quantal on this machine | 18:40 |
| wxl | silverarrow: just be patient. as i said before, you can zsync it next time. | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | not until nvidia releases new drivers | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | wxl: i'm just on bugsquad / bugcontrol | 18:40 |
| wxl | TheLordOfTime: ok, nevermind then | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | part of bugsquad is to help triaging :P | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | whether that triaging happens upstream or in ubuntu only... :P | 18:41 |
| TheLordOfTime | ... okay, i'm sufficiently annoyed at PHP now | 18:41 |
| * TheLordOfTime walks off to rant a bit | 18:41 | |
| silverarrow | I am not complaining about gnome mplayer in its self though | 18:42 |
| silverarrow | well some issues | 18:42 |
| silverarrow | wxl, could you link to be beta 1 DOWNLOADS again ? | 18:48 |
| silverarrow | oh sorry | 18:48 |
| wxl | silverarrow: you found? | 18:48 |
| silverarrow | I am googeling and loads of quantal hits, but not the downloads | 18:48 |
| wxl | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds/22556/downloads though i'd suggest zsync | 18:50 |
| silverarrow | thanks | 18:50 |
| silverarrow | I switched comptuers and sort of lost my way | 18:50 |
| silverarrow | what is rsync and zsync? | 18:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | !rsync | 18:51 |
| ubottu | rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync | 18:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | !zsync | 18:51 |
| ubottu | Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage | 18:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | factoids ftw | 18:51 |
| wxl | hah | 18:52 |
| wxl | as i said before, with zsync, the first time you download 100% the second time you download only the part that changed. if only 1% changes, you only download 1% | 18:52 |
| silverarrow | oh clever | 18:52 |
| wxl | this is the tester's best friend | 18:52 |
| silverarrow | I didn`t get it the first tome | 18:54 |
| silverarrow | time* | 18:54 |
| silverarrow | download is speeding up | 18:55 |
| silverarrow | 20 minutes | 18:56 |
| silverarrow | back | 19:35 |
| silverarrow | cd is burned | 19:35 |
| silverarrow | It is always a nervous moment intalling os | 19:36 |
| silverarrow | :-| | 19:36 |
| silverarrow | wxl is the blacklist 42b thing fixed? | 19:37 |
| silverarrow | for the initial bootup? | 19:37 |
| silverarrow | do I get wireless on first bootup? | 19:37 |
| silverarrow | major hassle ;-) | 19:37 |
| silverarrow | wxl, firt bootup is crucial | 19:39 |
| === silverarrow_ is now known as silverarrow | ||
| silverarrow | now for install | 19:44 |
| wxl | silverarrow: don't know! | 19:46 |
| silverarrow | b4something is not fixed for boot up?! | 19:46 |
| silverarrow | why not | 19:46 |
| silverarrow | darn | 19:46 |
| silverarrow | I have to look it up again | 19:46 |
| wxl | i haven't open up the ppc in a long time | 19:46 |
| wxl | i usually just hardwire | 19:46 |
| silverarrow | oh, it is fixed | 19:47 |
| wxl | it is? | 19:47 |
| wxl | oh SWEET | 19:47 |
| silverarrow | yes, cd has booted, and I get desktop image | 19:47 |
| silverarrow | yeah great | 19:47 |
| silverarrow | however, desktop image is very coars | 19:48 |
| silverarrow | odd | 19:48 |
| silverarrow | I can't live with it | 19:48 |
| wxl | remember you can send screenshots and file bugs while live | 19:48 |
| silverarrow | unless its suppose to be liket hat | 19:48 |
| wxl | assume anything that looks wrong is probably a bug | 19:48 |
| wxl | at worst they'll make yuor bugs as invalid because they're not bugs which is not a problem | 19:49 |
| silverarrow | some things are fixed at first bootup though | 19:49 |
| silverarrow | the gui installer is haulting | 19:50 |
| silverarrow | I don't get the widow to show properly | 19:50 |
| silverarrow | what is b43 cutter? | 19:50 |
| silverarrow | what would first bug report be then "fix the installer" ? | 19:51 |
| silverarrow | Installer is frozen though | 19:52 |
| silverarrow | hi | 20:12 |
| silverarrow | third try and no success | 20:20 |
| silverarrow | I did the md5 sum check | 20:21 |
| kanliot | ubiquity? | 20:21 |
| kanliot | 12.10? | 20:21 |
| silverarrow | what, ubiquity? | 20:21 |
| kanliot | that's the name of the software installer of the graphical installer | 20:21 |
| silverarrow | I get as far as booting, desktop image is a bit coarsed pixeled and installer do not work | 20:22 |
| silverarrow | i suppose it is a bug | 20:22 |
| kanliot | 12.04? | 20:22 |
| silverarrow | 12.10 beta | 20:22 |
| kanliot | yeah | 20:22 |
| silverarrow | I am on ppc G4 | 20:22 |
| silverarrow | something with ubiquity then | 20:23 |
| kanliot | well someone just told me 12.10 beta was a bad build, because ubiquity doesn't support any extended partitions (which is nearly alll pcs IMHO) | 20:23 |
| kanliot | so it's crashy trashy | 20:23 |
| silverarrow | there are issues with 12.04 too, but they are different | 20:23 |
| silverarrow | can't be entirely bad | 20:24 |
| silverarrow | has to be fixed though | 20:24 |
| silverarrow | wonder how I can report it in a simple way | 20:25 |
| theteju | hey silverarrow | 21:01 |
| theteju | are you there? | 21:01 |
| silverarrow | hi | 21:03 |
| silverarrow | hi | 21:03 |
| theteju | sorry,, never realized my user name | 21:03 |
| silverarrow | :-) | 21:03 |
| theteju | finally i could not solve the flash issue on google chrome | 21:03 |
| theteju | so i did again , fresh install | 21:03 |
| silverarrow | it helped? | 21:04 |
| theteju | now, I forgot the browser you recommended | 21:04 |
| silverarrow | well, I recommended midori | 21:04 |
| silverarrow | which worked fine until recently | 21:04 |
| theteju | NO re install did not help | 21:04 |
| theteju | ok, is there any ppa for midori? | 21:04 |
| silverarrow | it still works fine with most sites and youtube, but it crashes on some sites | 21:04 |
| silverarrow | yes, just type midori in package manager | 21:05 |
| silverarrow | or sudo apt-get install midori perhaps | 21:05 |
| theteju | i finally went with minitube ,, works good | 21:06 |
| theteju | for youtube. | 21:06 |
| theteju | is there anything else do you think light weight and worth installing? | 21:08 |
| silverarrow | well, regular adobe should work | 21:12 |
| silverarrow | but it's not lightweigt | 21:12 |
| silverarrow | if minitube works it is great | 21:13 |
| theteju | so , that means,, my cpu is powerful enough to play with it | 21:15 |
| theteju | i think something wrong with default chromium | 21:15 |
| theteju | it simply S***s | 21:15 |
| kanliot | firefox | 21:17 |
| kanliot | xxxterm if you really have no ram | 21:18 |
| wxl | w3m ftw | 21:18 |
| wxl | XD | 21:18 |
| theteju | i got 1 gb ram and 2 gb swap | 21:18 |
| theteju | i dont think 1 gb ever gets used fully | 21:18 |
| theteju | so,, system is powerful enough for Lubuntu | 21:19 |
| kanliot | hey wxl, have you noticed that update-manager never runs anymore? | 21:19 |
| theteju | also,, to point out,, lubuntu software center does not work out of the box | 21:20 |
| kanliot | what's the error. i've read some of the LSC bugs | 21:20 |
| theteju | i add to add ppa for lubuntu-desktop for it to work | 21:20 |
| kanliot | using 11.10? | 21:20 |
| wxl | kanliot: no, i don't really bother with it | 21:20 |
| theteju | 12.04 | 21:21 |
| kanliot | weird | 21:21 |
| kanliot | if you can reproduce the bug i'd be interested | 21:21 |
| wxl | kanliot: i mean honestly it pops up every now and then but i ignore it | 21:21 |
| wxl | i am one of those "only use apt" kind of guys | 21:21 |
| wxl | but | 21:22 |
| silverarrow | wxl, harly ever going to test for quantal | 21:22 |
| wxl | i'd be happy to try to reproduce if you give me a bug number | 21:22 |
| wxl | currently on 12.10 but if you give me a while i could set up another vbox for 12.04 | 21:22 |
| wxl | or whip out the netbook | 21:22 |
| kanliot | ahh you're too nice | 21:22 |
| wxl | silverarrow: not sure i grok your meaning | 21:23 |
| silverarrow | well, i cannot install | 21:23 |
| silverarrow | or get online | 21:23 |
| kanliot | but no thanks i'll figure it out | 21:23 |
| kanliot | anyone here running 12.04? | 21:23 |
| silverarrow | ubiquity doesn''t launch properly on ibook G4 | 21:23 |
| wxl | silverarrow: then keep trying. meanwhile join lubuntu-qa and post a message to the mailing list about it | 21:23 |
| silverarrow | kanliot, yes? | 21:24 |
| wxl | however, you can do the live testcase, silverarrow | 21:24 |
| wxl | kanliot: the netbook ain't far | 21:24 |
| silverarrow | wxl, I struggle as a total newbie | 21:24 |
| kanliot | silverarrow, when was the last time update manager opened on your desktop, to advise to install software | 21:24 |
| kanliot | ? | 21:25 |
| silverarrow | i get all kinds of simple basic fillin questions wrong lol | 21:25 |
| silverarrow | a few days ago? | 21:25 |
| kanliot | ahh i'll report it to the lubuntu-qa mailing list. see if someone can test it | 21:26 |
| wxl | you can do this test silverarrow http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopLiveSession | 21:26 |
| wxl | kanliot: have you already reported a bug? | 21:26 |
| theteju | kanliot : update manager never comes up. just to let you know. | 21:26 |
| kanliot | he already tried the testing tracker and had problems with it. (not a surprise, IMHO) | 21:26 |
| theteju | i installed twice lubuntu 12.04 in last week | 21:27 |
| kanliot | how the hell do i reproduce the bug? | 21:27 |
| silverarrow | wxl, very basic, how do I maneuver the ubuntu test pages, the bug numbers and fails and passes? | 21:27 |
| kanliot | run your machine for a week, see if update manager doesn't come up? | 21:27 |
| theteju | never seen update manager prompt | 21:27 |
| kanliot | fine i'll file it | 21:27 |
| kanliot | hold on | 21:27 |
| silverarrow | wxl, I would like to report the installer bug for powerpc though, possible G4 spesific | 21:28 |
| wxl | kanliot: i did have it come up yesterday | 21:28 |
| wxl | maybe there are no updates? | 21:28 |
| silverarrow | 12.04 installer was better, even with bugs | 21:28 |
| wxl | if there's a bug in update-manager (not in apt), wouldn't apt-get update come up with something where update-manager did not? | 21:28 |
| silverarrow | wxl, you mean synaptic? | 21:29 |
| silverarrow | let me check | 21:29 |
| wxl | silverarrow: i was more talking about kanliot's bug | 21:30 |
| wxl | silverarrow: anywho, go to iso.qa.ubuntu.com and login using your launchpad credentials. | 21:30 |
| wxl | from there click on the release version that corresponds to what you have | 21:30 |
| silverarrow | no updates | 21:31 |
| wxl | make sure you're using the right version (on the far right) | 21:31 |
| silverarrow | oh, | 21:31 |
| silverarrow | .... | 21:31 |
| silverarrow | this is heavy work | 21:32 |
| kanliot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563 | 21:32 |
| silverarrow | thinking a new thought | 21:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1046563 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager never appears on lubuntu precise" [Undecided,New] | 21:32 |
| silverarrow | I do get regular "udpates available" popups | 21:33 |
| silverarrow | synaptic launches its' sel | 21:33 |
| theteju | midori crashes a lot bro | 21:35 |
| * kanliot doesn't know any gnome project that doesn't crash horribly | 21:37 | |
| silverarrow | theteju: unfortunately | 21:38 |
| kanliot | besides, how could you not use firefox? | 21:38 |
| silverarrow | theteju the first weeks I had it it behaved perfectly | 21:38 |
| silverarrow | I think it behaves better on ppc than regular pc | 21:39 |
| wxl | silverarrow: you might also join #ubuntu-testing and see if they can offer any advice on what to do with that ubiquity bug | 21:40 |
| wxl | kanliot: booting netbook now XD | 21:40 |
| silverarrow | theteju: unfortunately flash video replacer seems to be gone | 21:41 |
| silverarrow | it was great for low specs and lubuntu | 21:41 |
| kanliot | wxl you might have to upgrade the netbook to 12.04.1 then test | 21:41 |
| wxl | wtf is 12.04.1 | 21:41 |
| kanliot | point release | 21:42 |
| silverarrow | f involved? | 21:42 |
| kanliot | maybe that's what i did wrong | 21:42 |
| kanliot | maybe i wasn't supposed to upgrade | 21:42 |
| wxl | how did you do that? through what tool? | 21:43 |
| wxl | update manager just popped up for me | 21:43 |
| silverarrow | very advance | 21:43 |
| kanliot | hmmm i'm not 100% sure | 21:43 |
| kanliot | i have 2 machines, i upgraded 1 though apt-get something, 2nd machine i used update manager | 21:43 |
| kanliot | does your netbook say anything about upgrade? | 21:44 |
| kanliot | your netbook's update manager? | 21:44 |
| wxl | there's some security updates | 21:44 |
| kanliot | no upgrade huh? | 21:44 |
| wxl | nope | 21:44 |
| wxl | what's lsb_release -a give you? | 21:45 |
| silverarrow | theteju: there is an issue with adobe flash player making midori crash, and there is a fix for it | 21:45 |
| kanliot | ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS | 21:45 |
| wxl | interesting | 21:45 |
| wxl | do-release-upgrade is how you update in command line | 21:46 |
| wxl | so it's doubeful you did that | 21:46 |
| wxl | interesting i have 12.04.1 lts too | 21:46 |
| wxl | oooh wow i'm LTS now | 21:46 |
| kanliot | lol | 21:46 |
| * wxl gives a big woop | 21:46 | |
| kanliot | well you're less confused than me | 21:47 |
| kanliot | so you doing ok | 21:47 |
| wxl | i am? XD | 21:47 |
| kanliot | whats' the cron directory? | 21:47 |
| kanliot | just askin | 21:47 |
| wxl | it's interesting that the description is 12.04.1 but the release is 12.04 | 21:47 |
| kanliot | yeah same here | 21:48 |
| wxl | default for cron is /var/spool/cron/crontabs | 21:48 |
| wxl | crontab -e to edit tho | 21:48 |
| kanliot | run this: /etc/cron.daily/update-notifier-common | 21:49 |
| kanliot | its a script | 21:49 |
| wxl | lemme finish these updates | 21:49 |
| wxl | man they're going insanely slow | 21:49 |
| wxl | wrong wifi network | 21:50 |
| JoaoVitor | Hello, I'm having a problem. Can you help me? | 21:51 |
| wxl | ooh my turn | 21:51 |
| wxl | !ask | 21:51 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 21:51 |
| JoaoVitor | All distro Ubuntu and derivatives (xubuntu, Lubuntu etc) are crash my netbook when in battery usage. And I have to push the reset button | 21:53 |
| Dice-Man | hello people | 21:54 |
| silverarrow | JoaoVitor: bad battery? | 21:54 |
| wxl | JoaoVitor: so if you are using ac, there's no problem. the second you remove it and it runs on battery, it freezes? what exactly happens? | 21:54 |
| Dice-Man | i've a windows machine where i've put a tightvnc server on it | 21:54 |
| Dice-Man | i'm entering the right stuff in vinagre | 21:55 |
| kanliot | JoaoVitor, might be a question for the hardware people on the forum | 21:55 |
| Dice-Man | but i don't have any connections :( | 21:55 |
| JoaoVitor | silverarrow:not. the slackware for example, typically run | 21:55 |
| gomiboy | Dice-Man: windows firewall is down? | 21:56 |
| kanliot | JoaoVitor, might be kernel versions | 21:56 |
| JoaoVitor | wxl:lock when the netbook is on battery usage, unplugged. It simply freezes the screen | 21:57 |
| wxl | JoaoVitor: yeah, that sounds like a problem with the battery or the kernel. which netbook? | 21:57 |
| JoaoVitor | kanliot:I'm using kernel 3.2.0-29 | 21:57 |
| wxl | JoaoVitor: what kernel in slackware? | 21:58 |
| wxl | kanliot: /etc/cron.daily/update-notifier-common does nothing. but apt-get update && upgrade does indeed pull up some upgrades that need to happen. | 21:59 |
| JoaoVitor | wxl:slack 3.2.28 | 22:00 |
| JoaoVitor | i think | 22:00 |
| wxl | JoaoVitor: 3.2.0-29 ≠ 3.2.28. use the same kernel and see what happens. | 22:02 |
| silverarrow | JoaoVitor: I have had lubuntu on a few laptops and never had the power issue you are experiencing | 22:03 |
| silverarrow | odd though | 22:03 |
| kanliot | bah it's just a guess | 22:04 |
| JoaoVitor | wxl:I'll try. Thanks for the help. | 22:04 |
| kanliot | i'd use slackware | 22:04 |
| silverarrow | yeah, whatever ever works | 22:04 |
| silverarrow | though it sould be fixed in lubuntu !! | 22:04 |
| silverarrow | should* | 22:04 |
| Dice-Man | gomiboy: i'm using comodo firewall | 22:05 |
| wxl | kanliot: also running update-manager pulls up available updates. | 22:05 |
| Dice-Man | but no it isn't | 22:05 |
| wxl | JoaoVitor: i should add i had that problem once, too. bad battery. | 22:05 |
| silverarrow | JoaoVitor: you might post on the Ubuntu forum, perhaps a clever guy will read it | 22:05 |
| silverarrow | i have problems with flickering screen | 22:06 |
| silverarrow | on my hp computer | 22:06 |
| Dice-Man | gomiboy: i'm using remmina client on lubuntu | 22:06 |
| silverarrow | what could it be? | 22:06 |
| Dice-Man | gomiboy: it's a tightvnc connection what to put in the username field ? | 22:06 |
| Dice-Man | tightvnc doesn't require a username | 22:06 |
| Dice-Man | that's odd | 22:06 |
| wxl | kanliot: consider yourself confirmed | 22:08 |
| kanliot | ok thx wxl | 22:09 |
| gomiboy | Dice-Man: reading tightvnc documentation here: http://www.tightvnc.com/winst.php : "Until a password is set, TightVNC will not accept incoming network connections." | 22:10 |
| kanliot | oh btw silverarrow, they said bet1 ppc is broken, but fixes will be landing soon | 22:10 |
| kanliot | on the lubuntu-qa mailing list | 22:10 |
| wxl | silverarrow: problem seems to lie in bug 1041625 | 22:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1041625 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (Ubuntu) "X not starting after install [openchrome]" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041625 | 22:12 |
| kanliot | wxl i thought that was the bug on the alternate cd? | 22:12 |
| kanliot | so many bugs so little communication | 22:12 |
| wxl | InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Alpha i386 (20120724.2) | 22:13 |
| kanliot | yeah i386 | 22:13 |
| kanliot | thats not ppc is it? | 22:13 |
| wxl | that's not | 22:13 |
| wxl | and it's not alternate either | 22:13 |
| kanliot | lol sourcepackage: ubiquity | 22:14 |
| wxl | but this is both https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome/+bug/1041625/comments/34 | 22:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1041625 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (Ubuntu) "X not starting after install [openchrome]" [High,Triaged] | 22:14 |
| === silverarrow___ is now known as silverarrow | ||
| kanliot | man please tell me i'm not the only one who has to play a guessing games when qa sends out these emails | 22:15 |
| wxl | nope | 22:15 |
| wxl | you're not | 22:15 |
| kanliot | i just talked to phillw | 22:15 |
| kanliot | he said he was in waist deep | 22:15 |
| kanliot | in muck | 22:15 |
| wxl | heheh | 22:15 |
| kanliot | he had to ask for respins | 22:16 |
| kanliot | a bug not listed hold on | 22:16 |
| kanliot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1046175 | 22:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1046175 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "[regression] Manual partitioner only creates primary partitions" [High,Fix released] | 22:16 |
| silverarrow | yeah, in powerpc ubuquity doesn't even launch | 22:17 |
| kanliot | so basically, any pc with extended paritionss or soemthing, wouldn't install, or something, maybe automatic worked i guess | 22:17 |
| kanliot | something | 22:17 |
| silverarrow | wonder if it is a connected bug? | 22:17 |
| silverarrow | probably not though | 22:17 |
| kanliot | bye | 22:17 |
| kanliot | wxl if you have another few minutes | 22:18 |
| kanliot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxkeymap/+bug/1026510 | 22:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1026510 in lxkeymap (Ubuntu) "lxkeymap does not remember settings" [Undecided,New] | 22:18 |
| kanliot | this seems like an actual bug in 12.04 | 22:18 |
| kanliot | actually i could test it myself | 22:18 |
| kanliot | dont really need u | 22:18 |
| silverarrow | I wasn't affected by teh keymap bug | 22:19 |
| wxl | i thought we already had that one somewhere | 22:19 |
| kanliot | what keyboard do you use silverarrow | 22:19 |
| silverarrow | no idea, ibook stuff | 22:19 |
| kanliot | yeah it was in hardy i think can't remember | 22:19 |
| silverarrow | powerpc seems to have bugnumbers multiplied | 22:20 |
| wxl | so do you need me to double check this, kanliot ? | 22:20 |
| * wxl doesn't think openchrome applies to ppc but we'll see | 22:21 | |
| silverarrow | i still can't manage to report ubiquity bug !"#¤ | 22:21 |
| kanliot | i'll ask you to triple check it | 22:21 |
| kanliot | pleasee wait wxl | 22:21 |
| wxl | silverarrow: there are two options. one, you could hardwire your machine, try hitting ctrl-alt-f1 and run ubuntu-bug ubiquity or two, you could just go to launchpad and report a new bug and fill in the info about it. | 22:22 |
| wxl | there's also a third option | 22:22 |
| kanliot | The ones that need testing are date stamped 20120905 (It does not affect Alternate etc). | 22:23 |
| kanliot | @ PPC users, I've had a good long chat with cjwatson and he asks that you re-test the ppc isos, a lot of work has been done. | 22:23 |
| kanliot | silverarrow if you have time you can doubletest the new ppc iso that just dropped | 22:23 |
| silverarrow | but I just downloaded less than two hours ago | 22:23 |
| kanliot | wxl please tripletest the lxkeymap bug | 22:24 |
| kanliot | silverarrow, seriously i think there's a new build | 22:24 |
| kanliot | if you like, use zsync | 22:24 |
| wxl | yeah zsync | 22:24 |
| silverarrow | kanliot, can you sort of slip the info to him, that G4 users have trouble launching insaller? | 22:24 |
| kanliot | i can | 22:24 |
| wxl | also this may be useful, silverarrow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_when_off-line | 22:24 |
| silverarrow | iBook g4, | 22:24 |
| kanliot | but can you retest with the build in the past hour or so? | 22:24 |
| silverarrow | I can | 22:25 |
| kanliot | cool | 22:25 |
| silverarrow | and I need to buy a rack of CDs | 22:25 |
| kanliot | :( | 22:25 |
| silverarrow | I have four left | 22:25 |
| silverarrow | which should see me through to tomorrow | 22:25 |
| kanliot | :) | 22:26 |
| silverarrow | kanliot, same download site? | 22:26 |
| silverarrow | ooh, this is exiting | 22:26 |
| wxl | you should try cd-rws | 22:26 |
| kanliot | hold on | 22:27 |
| kanliot | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds/22623/downloads | 22:28 |
| kanliot | i think that's the right one | 22:28 |
| kanliot | actually they said 20120905 in the email, i think they meant to say 20120905.1 | 22:28 |
| kanliot | more confusion | 22:28 |
| silverarrow | downloading | 22:30 |
| wxl | confirmed | 22:32 |
| kanliot | yeah\ | 22:33 |
| kanliot | wxl i've done that | 22:34 |
| kanliot | oopps replying to a convo about an hour ago | 22:35 |
| kanliot | sorry | 22:35 |
| wxl | hahahahah | 22:35 |
| wxl | XD | 22:35 |
| wxl | /lastlog 1434 | 22:35 |
| wxl | XD | 22:35 |
| silverarrow | who is the clever guy working with the ppc iso? | 22:37 |
| wxl | you mean the guy trying to fix it? | 22:37 |
| silverarrow | yes | 22:37 |
| silverarrow | i hope he isn't all alone though | 22:37 |
| wxl | not sure really | 22:38 |
| silverarrow | my mom just bought a new laptop | 22:38 |
| silverarrow | a hp | 22:38 |
| silverarrow | slim and very wide screen | 22:38 |
| silverarrow | about 2 kg | 22:38 |
| silverarrow | I was going to get her a ultrabook | 22:38 |
| kanliot | http://pastebin.com/qN8HXpX1 | 22:38 |
| silverarrow | like samsung 9 series | 22:38 |
| silverarrow | but she was out on her own | 22:38 |
| kanliot | sorry that's some random convo with the ppc guy | 22:39 |
| silverarrow | she bought it today, looks nice | 22:39 |
| Unit193 | May want to join offtopic and talk there if it isn't support related. | 22:39 |
| === silverarrow_ is now known as silverarrow | ||
| silverarrow | hi again | 23:40 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!