| KurtKraut | I am using Quantal Quetzal since alpha 1 but in the past two weeks my aptitude full-upgrade shows no new packages, what is odd because I'm used to see package changes in a daily basis in alpha releases. Is that expected? | 00:06 |
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| Daekdroom | KurtKraut, not for two weeks. | 00:07 |
| Daekdroom | The mirror you're using might be outdated. | 00:07 |
| JontheEchidna | I've gotten 20 updates today | 00:07 |
| Daekdroom | It happened to me. | 00:07 |
| JontheEchidna | scratch that, 60 | 00:07 |
| Daekdroom | earlier in this version. | 00:07 |
| KurtKraut | I've already changed to two mirrors and no new packages | 00:07 |
| Daekdroom | Have you tried the main one? | 00:08 |
| KurtKraut | Daekdroom, in fact no, you're right. It is a valid test. | 00:11 |
| Darxus | Since I installed quantal in a new partition I haven't been able to get grub installed as I had it from my oneric partition. I really can't figure out what's going wrong. I'm booted to oneric, run update-grub, and grub-install /dev/sda, and... I'm not getting the stuff listed in grub when I reboot that I expect. | 01:10 |
| Darxus | (More accurately, since I upgraded my precise partition to quantal.) | 01:10 |
| trism | Darxus: what are you getting? maybe pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg from oneiric? | 01:14 |
| Darxus | trism: I'm getting the list of kernel options I expect to see from quantal. | 01:14 |
| Darxus | But... the grub version displayed is the one from oneric. | 01:15 |
| trism | Darxus: for the default kernels or from the quantal kernels? | 01:15 |
| trism | Darxus: err default = oneiric | 01:15 |
| Darxus | http://www.chaosreigns.com/tmp/grub.cfg from oneric | 01:15 |
| Darxus | trism: It's listing a bunch of quantal kernels and one oneric kernel. Which is what I expect to see with grub installed from quantal. | 01:16 |
| Darxus | Like oneric has a bunch of 3.0.x kernels, and quantal has a bunch of 3.5.x kernels or something. | 01:17 |
| Darxus | How can I tell where grub loaded from, or where I should install grub to? | 01:18 |
| Darxus | I've been doing /dev/sda, trying /dev/sdb out of desperation. I also have /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd. | 01:18 |
| trism | Darxus: the oneiric ones are there, they are just under previous kernels, and I see 3.5.0-11 plus a bunch of 3.2.0 from the precise upgrade I imagine | 01:18 |
| Darxus | trism: Right, but that stuff isn't what I see when I reboot. | 01:18 |
| trism | Darxus: oh what do you see? | 01:18 |
| Darxus | I see mostly 3.5.x kernels. | 01:19 |
| trism | Darxus: quantal first then oneiric at the end? | 01:19 |
| trism | Darxus: ahh | 01:19 |
| Darxus | No, one oneric at the top, then lots of quantal. | 01:19 |
| Darxus | It looks like quantal successfully overwrote grub, and then every attempt I've made from oneric has not worked. | 01:20 |
| trism | Darxus: if oneiric is at the top, then oneiric should be managing grub, since the quantal ones in grub.cfg are listed later from os-prober | 01:21 |
| Darxus | Hmm, okay. | 01:21 |
| trism | Darxus: but since about oneiric, it hides the extra kernels under "Previous Linux versions", so maybe you are just noticing that now since you reinstalled on oneiric? | 01:22 |
| trism | Darxus: is oneiric an upgrade? | 01:22 |
| Darxus | Could be. | 01:22 |
| Darxus | The oneric partition... I've had for a while, upgraded through a few releases. | 01:22 |
| Darxus | Trying another reboot... | 01:23 |
| Darxus | trism: Hah, everything is working as expected now, thank you very much. | 01:25 |
| Darxus | My actual problem was, my video card needs to be blacklisted for the gfxpayload thing, and I have no idea how I used to have that set up under oneric. And I guess that got broken when I upgraded quantal. | 01:26 |
| Darxus | But adding GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text to /etc/default/grub then updating and installing it worked, now that I expected the order of kernels I was actually seeing. | 01:26 |
| trism | Darxus: excellent, glad it is working now. I usually install my testing partition using ubiquity -b; so it doesn't touch grub | 01:28 |
| Darxus | Boot loaders have gotten so much more magical / complicated in the last... 17 years. Damn. | 01:28 |
| trism | indeed | 01:28 |
| Darxus | I miss my completely hand written lilo config files :P | 01:29 |
| h00k | lol lilo :( | 02:23 |
| bjsnider | looking forward to the new nautilus: http://afaikblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/nautilus.png | 03:44 |
| tsimpson | or you can use dolphin, and have the same features years ago | 03:51 |
| IdleOne | heh | 03:52 |
| bjsnider | yeah, but i'd also have all of the problems with kde to keep me company, and i don't have time for that crap | 04:04 |
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| peterrus | Hey, I still seem to have this issue in an updated version of quantal, could it be that this fix is not yet available in quantal for some reason? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/947723 | 11:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 947723 in linux (Ubuntu) "ASIX USB-Ethernet driver noticably slow, dropping packets and reporting RX errors" [Medium,Fix released] | 11:42 |
| BluesKaj | howdy folks | 12:06 |
| philinux | hi BluesKaj | 12:18 |
| BluesKaj | hi phil | 12:19 |
| BluesKaj | philinux, | 12:19 |
| smartboyhw | \o BluesKaj | 12:33 |
| BluesKaj | hi smartboyhw | 12:34 |
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| tbf | wow! quantal supports disk encryption out of the box with the desktop image? | 14:42 |
| Pici | yep. | 14:42 |
| tbf | yeah! | 14:42 |
| tbf | \O/ | 14:43 |
| tbf | well done everyone | 14:43 |
| thebishop | hey folks | 15:03 |
| thebishop | i'm looking forward to trying Beta 1 tomorrow. Can anyone talk about the current state of support for Synaptics clickpads and power consumption overall? | 15:04 |
| peterrus | thebishop, my clickpad works almost as it should | 15:06 |
| peterrus | I had to hack in some palmdetection though | 15:06 |
| peterrus | and setting the 'disable touchpad while typing' checkbox does nothing, so I had to enable that through a synclient argument | 15:06 |
| peterrus | power consumption depends on your hardware | 15:06 |
| peterrus | tbf, do you mean root partition encryption? or just homefolder? because it does that for ages ;) | 15:07 |
| peterrus | Hey, I still seem to have this issue in an updated version of quantal, could it be that this fix is not yet available in quantal for some reason? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/947723 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 947723 in linux (Ubuntu) "ASIX USB-Ethernet driver noticably slow, dropping packets and reporting RX errors" [Medium,Fix released] | 15:07 |
| thebishop | peterrus, is click+drag improved? On 12.04 I got things mostly working by specifying the right-click boundary using synclient. but multitouch behaviors (click+drag, drop down boxes, etc) are still a little flakey. it works but the cursor frequently gets confused | 15:08 |
| peterrus | thebishop, yes, It seems (not 100% sure) this was fixed a few days ago or so | 15:09 |
| peterrus | let me try ;) | 15:09 |
| peterrus | thebishop, yes dragging is fixed, I when my finger reaches the boundary of the clickpad, I can now use another finger to continue dragiing | 15:09 |
| peterrus | multitouch gestures work as wel | 15:10 |
| peterrus | I can move a window with 3 fingers | 15:10 |
| thebishop | for example: if i drag a window to the top of the screen, and don't let go, the cursor is often way above the window | 15:10 |
| peterrus | and unmaximize it with a 4 finger pinch | 15:10 |
| peterrus | thebishop, cant seem to reproduce that sorry | 15:11 |
| thebishop | http://i.imgur.com/9CusK.jpg - the cursor was in "grab/drag" mode before I hit the print screen button | 15:11 |
| thebishop | i can continue dragging the window, but the cursor is way above the window like that | 15:11 |
| tbf | peterrus, root partition encryption | 15:11 |
| peterrus | thebishop, I have never seen this to be honest | 15:12 |
| thebishop | ah ok | 15:12 |
| peterrus | so that might be a good sign ;) | 15:12 |
| thebishop | heh | 15:12 |
| thebishop | did you use 12.04 a lot? | 15:12 |
| peterrus | tbf, oh nice! | 15:12 |
| peterrus | thebishop, not on the desktop no ;) | 15:12 |
| peterrus | thebishop, about the powerconsumption, I can run my zenbook for 4 hours at least, maybe 5 | 15:14 |
| peterrus | its not as optimal as on windows | 15:14 |
| peterrus | but it's getting close | 15:14 |
| thebishop | I get about 3:30 on my Envy 14, after I turn off the dedicated graphics (from the command line), and enable all the tunables in PowerTOP | 15:22 |
| thebishop | it's using about 16W at that point | 15:23 |
| silverarrow | hi | 20:11 |
| silverarrow | how do I go about troubles with installing Quantal beta | 20:11 |
| silverarrow | ? | 20:11 |
| silverarrow | the intaller doesn't work on a ibook G4 | 20:12 |
| silverarrow | there were issues with precise too, but a bit different | 20:12 |
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| kanliot | ah silverarrow you're here too | 20:27 |
| kanliot | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046175 | 20:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1046175 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "[regression] Manual partitioner only creates primary partitions" [High,Fix released] | 20:27 |
| kanliot | is that your bug? | 20:27 |
| silverarrow | yeah, I thoug someone might have an idea abou the live cd installer | 20:27 |
| silverarrow | no, installer doesn''t even lauch | 20:28 |
| kanliot | can you get to a console if the pc boots? | 20:29 |
| silverarrow | I can try | 20:36 |
| silverarrow | b43-phy0 error | 20:40 |
| silverarrow | If i don't launch anyting, i get a terminal | 20:41 |
| silverarrow | I am in terminal now kanliot? | 20:41 |
| silverarrow | any ideas? | 20:41 |
| kanliot | silverarrow, type ubuntu-bug ubiquity... see if it opens a web browser | 20:43 |
| silverarrow | I cant, keyboad is wacked up | 20:44 |
| jtaylor | how does one get the dash to default on the applications and not music? | 20:46 |
| jtaylor | it changed with unity 6.4.0 | 20:46 |
| kanliot | silverarrow, just file a bug against ubiquity, and open up http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/232/builds/22623/testcases < that page and type in the launchpad bug number | 20:47 |
| kanliot | by "just file a bug" i mean use a working machine to type in a new bug with description and steps | 20:48 |
| kanliot | make sure you mention it's quantal | 20:48 |
| silverarrow | crap system for filing bugs | 21:02 |
| silverarrow | !"#ยค | 21:02 |
| silverarrow | what does this mean ? Invalid bug list, bug numbers must be made of digits and separate by commas. | 21:06 |
| kanliot | like 1992922 | 21:08 |
| silverarrow | how am I suppose to know wich bug number is next? | 21:20 |
| silverarrow | j | 21:20 |
| silverarrow | I like the auto launcher though | 21:20 |
| silverarrow | I wish I could be wired | 21:20 |
| silverarrow | I can do it tomorrow | 21:20 |
| silverarrow | from the autolauncher | 21:20 |
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