| === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi | ||
| Xammblu | Hello. Anyone have a min to help a newbie with extracting (wallpapers) to my system so I may use them? | 06:13 |
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| Blazemore | And he's gone | 08:19 |
| geirha | When he said a min, he really meant it ... | 08:34 |
| Blazemore | I don't have JOIN PART NICK QUIT on this channel | 08:34 |
| Blazemore | Or any channel, by default. It keeps ##linux and #python actually readable | 08:35 |
| Blazemore | Only the smaller, social channels where I actually know people and care who is joining and leaving | 08:35 |
| geirha | well, the message came at 08:13 (my time), and the PART cam at 08:14 :) | 09:01 |
| bread | hi, how do i install a program? what sort of file do i need to be able to install a program? | 09:12 |
| Blazemore | bread: Use the Ubuntu Software Centre | 09:13 |
| bread | I tried that, but the particular program I want to install isn't on there. | 09:13 |
| bread | would it be impossible to install if it's not there? | 09:15 |
| Blazemore | What program would you like to install? | 09:15 |
| Blazemore | Have you found any installation instructions for it? | 09:15 |
| bread | it's called pps and it's a chinese program so the instructions, if there are any, are in chinese. which i'm not so good at reading | 09:16 |
| Blazemore | ooh sounds tricky! | 09:17 |
| Blazemore | Have you tried googling for Ubuntu installation instructions? Post a link to its webpage here | 09:17 |
| bread | I believe this is the webpage the program came from... http://www.ppstv.org/article/236.html | 09:18 |
| Blazemore | I'm looking | 09:20 |
| Blazemore | bread: http://download.ppstream.com/linux/PPStream.deb | 09:21 |
| bread | where it says - sudo dpkg-i ppstream_1.0.2-1_i386.deb - would that be the line that you need to put into terminal to install the actual program? do need to install libraries as well | 09:21 |
| Blazemore | Bread give me a sec | 09:21 |
| Blazemore | if you're happy with a terminal, do this | 09:21 |
| Blazemore | wget http://download.ppstream.com/linux/PPStream.deb | 09:21 |
| Blazemore | sudo dpkg -i PPStream.deb | 09:21 |
| Blazemore | see if it works | 09:21 |
| bread | ok... downloaded | 09:22 |
| bread | went to open it and got a 'the package is of bad quality' - details - The package doesn't provide a valid Installed-Size control field. See Debian Policy 5.6.20. | 09:23 |
| Blazemore | sure | 09:23 |
| Blazemore | What version of Ubuntu are you running? | 09:23 |
| bread | 12.04? | 09:23 |
| Blazemore | ok | 09:23 |
| Blazemore | Try the command-line | 09:23 |
| Blazemore | wget http://download.ppstream.com/linux/PPStream.deb | 09:23 |
| Blazemore | sudo dpkg -i PPStream.deb | 09:23 |
| bread | command not found | 09:26 |
| bread | downloaded ok though, i believe | 09:26 |
| Blazemore | yes | 09:26 |
| Blazemore | you mistyped dpkg -i | 09:27 |
| Blazemore | sudo dpkg -i PPStream.deb | 09:28 |
| bread | ha, you inside my machine? errors were encountered while processing: ppstream | 09:28 |
| Blazemore | sudo dpkg -i PPStream.deb | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us | 09:29 |
| Blazemore | copy-paste that exactly | 09:29 |
| Blazemore | And give me the URL it gives you at the end | 09:29 |
| bread | the program curl is not installed, install? | 09:30 |
| Blazemore | ugh | 09:30 |
| Blazemore | lol yeah sorry, sudo apt-get install curl | 09:31 |
| Blazemore | I can't *believe* Ubuntu doesn't come with curl | 09:31 |
| Blazemore | Or you could copy and paste the errors from dpkg onto pastebin.com | 09:31 |
| Blazemore | If you prefer | 09:31 |
| Blazemore | Basically I just want to see the errors that dpkg gave you, because then I can definitely tell you how to fix them | 09:31 |
| bread | ppstream : Depends: libqt4-core (>= 4.4.0) but it is not going to be installed | 09:33 |
| bread | Depends: libqt4-gui (>= 4.4.0) but it is not going to be installed | 09:33 |
| bread | Depends: libqt4-webkit (>= 4.4.0) but it is not going to be installed | 09:33 |
| bread | Depends: mplayer | 09:33 |
| bread | that make any sense? | 09:33 |
| Blazemore | Yes | 09:35 |
| Blazemore | now run sudo apt-get -f install | 09:35 |
| Blazemore | That will install those dependencies, and then install the .deb again for you | 09:36 |
| Blazemore | Installing a deb manually won't bring down all the other packages it needs, so apt-get -f install will | 09:36 |
| bread | that'd be the 'library' the other ones talkin about needing | 09:37 |
| bread | ? | 09:37 |
| bread | now it's there, but when i open it it doesn't stay open... | 09:40 |
| bread | that's sorted, half works now | 09:44 |
| Blazemore | cool | 09:54 |
| Blazemore | Probably can't help you with the actual application though :3 | 09:54 |
| bread | haha, oh well... it's for watching movies and that, the part that links to the titles of the programs to watch does nothing | 09:58 |
| bread | would that be a library thing that needs to be found? | 09:59 |
| Blazemore | Possibly. Take a look at that website again and see if there's a list of dependancies | 09:59 |
| Blazemore | Install them all one by one with `sudo apt-get install package-name` | 09:59 |
| bread | Recommended use apt-get install: sudo apt-get install libqt4-core libqt4-dbus libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-webkit libqt4-xml libfuse2 mplayer all that maybe? | 10:00 |
| Blazemore | yeah, looks promising | 10:01 |
| bread | neat, i'll give that a go | 10:01 |
| Blazemore | That might bring in quite a lot of other stuff, mind | 10:01 |
| Blazemore | Won't be a problem for your system, but might take a while to download | 10:01 |
| bread | said that all those were already the latest version | 10:06 |
| Blazemore | I guess then, that it's just some buggy chinese software that was written a while ago and doesn't work with recent editions of Ubuntu | 10:07 |
| Blazemore | it seems you've done all you can | 10:08 |
| Blazemore | Try running it from the command-line, if you know what command to use | 10:09 |
| bread | ah well.. might have to look for something newer then. now, how to get rid of it... | 10:09 |
| bread | funny | 10:09 |
| Blazemore | sudo apt-get remove packagename | 10:09 |
| bread | that's not so complicated | 10:09 |
| Blazemore | probably sudo apt-get get remove ppstream | 10:09 |
| Blazemore | Yep, that's the point of a package manager ^^ | 10:09 |
| bread | awesome, thanks for your help. will try and find a newer version, may be out the somewhere... who knows | 10:12 |
| Blazemore | That's OK I hope you learned something you can apply in the future | 10:12 |
| bread | yea, have done. if nothing else i've got sudo apt-get install blabla and sudo apt-get remove blabla | 10:13 |
| Blazemore | if you take one thing away | 10:14 |
| Blazemore | "dpkg doesn't install dependencies automatically, you have to run apt-get -f install afterwards to fix missing dependencies" | 10:14 |
| bread | written that one down | 10:16 |
| Blazemore | lol | 10:17 |
| bread | think i've found a newer version to try and install now too | 10:17 |
| Blazemore | nice | 10:18 |
| Blazemore | plus, you already have the dependencies :D | 10:18 |
| bread | neat | 10:19 |
| bread | hey, still working on getting pps. found a website that says to do this | 10:39 |
| bread | 1) Open the terminal | 10:39 |
| bread | 2) Enter gksudo gedit / etc / apt / sources.list | 10:40 |
| bread | 3) the following words into the last line, and then save it, close down after. | 10:40 |
| bread | # Ppstream | 10:40 |
| bread | the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/cnav/ppa/ubuntu natty main | 10:40 |
| bread | http://ppa.launchpad.net/cnav/ppa/ubuntu natty main deb-src | 10:40 |
| bread | 4) Input terminal sudo apt-get update | 10:40 |
| bread | 5) after the input sudo apt-get install libfuse2 mplayer | 10:40 |
| bread | 6) After the input sudo apt-get install ppstream | 10:40 |
| bread | 7) installed PPStream "Tools> Options> Select the audio device" to set the current audio device is set to the alsa | 10:40 |
| Blazemore | OK | 10:42 |
| Blazemore | How much of that have you done? | 10:42 |
| bread | none, said i could change files that shouldn't be changed so i stopped. not good enough with computers to fix a major screw up... | 10:43 |
| Blazemore | it's fine | 10:43 |
| Blazemore | You won't break anything by doing any of those steps | 10:44 |
| bread | ok then | 10:44 |
| Blazemore | apt-get update will complain about a missing GPG key though | 10:44 |
| Blazemore | It's not an error | 10:44 |
| bread | nothing seems to happen, as soon as i put a password in theres only a new line on terminal | 10:46 |
| Blazemore | at which step? | 10:47 |
| bread | 2. can't figure out where the last line is nor how to save | 10:47 |
| Blazemore | close the text editor | 10:47 |
| Blazemore | don't save | 10:47 |
| Blazemore | copy-paste this | 10:47 |
| Blazemore | into a terminal: | 10:47 |
| Blazemore | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cnav/ppa | 10:48 |
| Blazemore | sudo apt-get update | 10:49 |
| bread | k | 10:49 |
| Blazemore | sudo apt-get install ppstream | 10:49 |
| bread | package ppstream has no installation candidate | 10:51 |
| bread | i'm guessing that means theres no pps where this says there should be? | 10:51 |
| Blazemore | did you run apt-get update first? | 10:51 |
| Blazemore | and did it give you any errors? | 10:51 |
| bread | i did... and no errors | 10:53 |
| bread | Package ppstream is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 10:53 |
| bread | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or | 10:53 |
| bread | is only available from another source | 10:53 |
| bread | E: Package 'ppstream' has no installation candidate | 10:53 |
| Blazemore | OK I got it | 10:54 |
| Blazemore | sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cnav-ppa-precise.list | 10:54 |
| Blazemore | Where it says "precise main" at the end of each line | 10:54 |
| Blazemore | Change it to "natty main" | 10:55 |
| Blazemore | Then save and close | 10:55 |
| Blazemore | and run sudo apt-get update again | 10:55 |
| bread | then install? | 10:56 |
| Blazemore | yep | 10:57 |
| bread | it's doin stuff now | 10:57 |
| Blazemore | :D | 10:58 |
| bread | it's installed now, trying to run it... | 10:59 |
| lukjad | Ohai Blazemore | 11:05 |
| bread | Thanks for your help Blazemore. didn't work for some reasons, needed to restart to complete the update. instead of just runnning | 11:09 |
| bread | gonna take it off and try again another day | 11:09 |
| Blazemore | Hey lukjad | 11:11 |
| lukjad | :) | 11:13 |
| Afdal | Anyone know what it means when a fresh install hangs forever at "Starting CUPS printing spooler/server [OK]" when trying to boot? | 14:10 |
| Afdal | I'm on a live CD now because I can't boot | 14:10 |
| holstein | Afdal: i would just force a disk check... maybe test the hard drive and memory | 14:12 |
| Afdal | I can't figure out what to do. This seems to be a common problem with people upgrading their OS and missing some packages or something, but this is a new installation for me | 14:12 |
| holstein | Afdal: did you upgrade? is this a fresh install? | 14:12 |
| Afdal | yes, fresh | 14:12 |
| holstein | ok.. i would confirm the hardward is "good" | 14:12 |
| Afdal | how do you mean? | 14:13 |
| Afdal | I use this computer for a Windows XP install as well | 14:13 |
| Blazemore | If you're having problems after a fresh installation, and don't have problems with any other OS, it's probably a problem during the installation, or with the install medium | 14:13 |
| Blazemore | Check the install medium before you run the installation | 14:13 |
| holstein | Afdal: if the live CD is working fine, then it could be a hard drive error.. it could be a file system error.. | 14:14 |
| holstein | and also, i agree with Blazemore as a test | 14:14 |
| holstein | !md5 | Afdal | 14:14 |
| ubot2 | Afdal: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 14:14 |
| Blazemore | Doesn't the CD have an option in the boot menu to check the integrity? | 14:14 |
| holstein | Blazemore: somewhere.. i think you have to tap shift now? | 14:14 |
| Afdal | I dunno, this is a Xubuntu 10 CD | 14:15 |
| holstein | Afdal: i would get a current CD.. a 12.04 | 14:15 |
| Afdal | oh wait | 14:15 |
| Afdal | it's that | 14:15 |
| holstein | ok.. theres a test like Blazemore is suggesting when you tap shift booting the live CD | 14:15 |
| holstein | you can "verify" the md5 sum of the downloaded iso.. or test the disc from the menu | 14:15 |
| Blazemore | Because verifying the iso is one thing, but there could be a problem burning the CD (far more liekly) | 14:16 |
| Blazemore | *likely | 14:16 |
| holstein | yup... the test on the disc should be the only one you need to do | 14:17 |
| Afdal | How can I do this from the live CD boot? | 14:17 |
| Afdal | which I am currently on | 14:17 |
| holstein | Afdal: you can reboot.. and tap shift while its booting | 14:17 |
| Afdal | <.< | 14:17 |
| Afdal | Is there a way to do it without rebooting? | 14:17 |
| holstein | Afdal: you'll see a list of text.. in that text will be something about verifying the image | 14:18 |
| Afdal | I have a bunch of firefox tabs and some other things open right now to help me troubleshoot this which I don't want to lose when I reboot | 14:18 |
| holstein | Afdal: sure.. you can verify the downloaded iso's md5 sum from the link above, but that doesnt mean the disc isnt a bad burn | 14:18 |
| holstein | Afdal: you'll likely need to reboot from that live environment to test things | 14:18 |
| Afdal | okay so I reboot and tap shift when? | 14:19 |
| Afdal | When it's in the menu for options? | 14:19 |
| holstein | Afdal: that would be the easy way to know that that disc is "good" | 14:19 |
| Afdal | install, try without installing, etc. | 14:20 |
| holstein | Afdal: theres an alternate menu you should see by tapping shift | 14:20 |
| holstein | a hidden one | 14:20 |
| Afdal | am I tapping shift before that menu pops up? | 14:20 |
| holstein | Afdal: i start tapping shift rigth after the bios | 14:21 |
| holstein | Afdal: its one of those things you can try again if you want | 14:21 |
| Afdal | Well | 14:21 |
| Afdal | I doubt this is the problem | 14:21 |
| Afdal | but fine | 14:21 |
| Afdal | pretty sure I've verified the md5 of this CD before too | 14:22 |
| Afdal | or at least the ISO | 14:22 |
| holstein | Afdal: cool.. you'll know if a few minutes.. and the md5 is just one test.. the burner or disc could be bad | 14:22 |
| Afdal | I guess I'll be back :/ | 14:23 |
| holstein | Afdal: this ist he nature of it.. testing.. troubleshooting.. ruling things out | 14:23 |
| Afdal | so how does it check the md5 sum without internet access | 14:23 |
| Blazemore | it knows what its own md5sum is supposed to be | 14:24 |
| Blazemore | it checks the integrity of each file | 14:24 |
| Afdal | oh okay | 14:24 |
| Afdal | I guess I'll go try this | 14:24 |
| holstein | Afdal: it works quite well.. if it tests positive, and you feel it is a false postive, we can communicate about that | 14:24 |
| Blazemore | If the download's md5sum says valid, and the disk integrity check says OK, isn't the only other alternative a hash collision? | 14:25 |
| Blazemore | In which case, go buy a lottery ticket because you're on a roll | 14:25 |
| === ubuntu is now known as Afdal | ||
| Afdal | Yeah, no errors on my disk | 14:35 |
| Afdal | Didn't need to tap Shift either, forgot that "check disc for errors" was a default option on the live CD | 14:35 |
| holstein | Afdal: the CD? or the hard drive? | 14:35 |
| Afdal | the CD | 14:36 |
| holstein | theres a memory test on the cd as well.. those would be my next steps | 14:36 |
| Afdal | <.< | 14:36 |
| Afdal | Well | 14:36 |
| Afdal | I use this drive for my other OS too | 14:36 |
| Afdal | they're fairly new too | 14:36 |
| holstein | sure... then, what would you like to do? | 14:36 |
| Afdal | I doubt they're failing | 14:36 |
| holstein | i just test and rule things out | 14:36 |
| holstein | i dont doubt.. i test | 14:36 |
| holstein | *all* drives will fail | 14:36 |
| Afdal | so the memory test is for your drive | 14:37 |
| Afdal | not RAM? | 14:37 |
| holstein | and, it could be just a file system error | 14:37 |
| holstein | Afdal: i would test both, if it were me.. you can do what you like.. i'll help you with whatever you decide.. i just like to rule these out, since it's relatively easy, and i dont waste time on softare tweaking if its a hardware issue | 14:38 |
| Afdal | good grief fine | 14:38 |
| holstein | good grief? | 14:38 |
| Afdal | But I'll be having a breakdown if my drives are already failing D:< | 14:38 |
| Afdal | goooood grief | 14:38 |
| holstein | Afdal: the times drives typically fail are when they are of course old, or also, right out of the box | 14:39 |
| Afdal | so the memory check does what now? | 14:39 |
| Afdal | I have three hard drives | 14:39 |
| holstein | i just test and then i dont wonder.. i know its file | 14:39 |
| Afdal | one's for storage | 14:39 |
| Afdal | the other two are for booting Windows/Linux on a RAID0 setup | 14:39 |
| holstein | Afdal: then, maybe you just have a grub error that is hanging the boot | 14:39 |
| Afdal | I'm booting with super GRUB2 disk | 14:39 |
| holstein | Afdal: you need to have whatever drives present that were present during boot | 14:39 |
| Afdal | because GRUB is retarded and has a problem detecting RAID partitions | 14:40 |
| holstein | Afdal: this is useful information.. that is a point of failure | 14:40 |
| Afdal | all right lemme do the memory check real quick | 14:40 |
| holstein | i would look at that setup, and how you configured it as well | 14:40 |
| Afdal | brb | 14:40 |
| ubuntu | Well I did the memory test | 15:24 |
| === ubuntu is now known as Guest64435 | ||
| === Guest64435 is now known as Afdal | ||
| Afdal | But that just checked my RAM | 15:24 |
| === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan | ||
| === Axlin_ is now known as Axlin | ||
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