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dholbachgood morning07:07
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iulianMorning dholbach.07:45
dholbachhi iulian07:47
ajmitchhi08:02
iulianajmitch!08:06
ajmitchiulian!08:35
ajmitch(yes I know I replied late :) )08:35
iulian:)08:36
OrangerSorry to break this very awesome silent but do all paquets contained in this page http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/gnome.html must have to be updated ?13:21
Oranger*packets13:21
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Laneyno13:23
Laneythere's a key at the bottom, but in any case each update should be considered on a case-by-case basis13:23
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highvoltageScottK: ooh, going to UDS again?16:40
highvoltageooh and Emmet too buy the looks of things16:40
achiangany patch pilots around?17:06
jtaylorachiang: herton in -devel17:07
achiangjtaylor: cool, thanks17:07
tumbleweedhighvoltage: you're going twice? i see17:14
highvoltagetumbleweed: why go once when I can go twice for just twice the price?17:14
tumbleweeddo you get to share a room with yourself?17:15
tumbleweed(that could be awkward)17:15
highvoltagegood question.17:15
micahgachiang: about wader, as there are API changes, but no consumer in the archive, I'm torn, but I think you should ask for an FFe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess17:32
achiangmicahg: hm, yeah, there are no consumers that i'm aware of. :-/17:33
achiangmicahg: i mean, anywhere, at all, let alone the archive17:34
achiangmicahg: i will ask for FFe, thanks17:36
jtaylormicahg: did your ruby-vmc ping get any pongs?17:42
micahgjtaylor: sorry, I wasn't clear yesterday, when I said go for it, I meant file for the removal of ruby-vmc17:42
jtaylorI though you wanted check if people and canonical use it?17:44
jtaylorand/at17:44
micahgjtaylor: I did and was told it's ok to remove :), we'll see if anyone screams when we file for removal17:45
iulianachiang, micahg: Do you want me to reject it for now and see the outcome of the FFe?17:48
jtaylortumbleweed: can you ack the removal in the ffe?17:48
micahgiulian: please17:48
jtaylor104546017:49
iulianmicahg: It's gone.17:49
micahgiulian: thanks17:49
micahgjtaylor: aren't you removing both packages now?  why do you need an ACK?17:50
jtaylorthe ffe was for trying to fix it17:50
jtaylorremoving needs ffe's too I guessed17:50
micahgjtaylor: nope, not unless it's going to break something else17:50
ScottKhighvoltage: Yes.18:34
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jtaylorScottK: I didn't know your an archive admin21:11
jtayloris that new?21:11
ScottKjtaylor: No.  I have been for several years.  It's relatively new that non-Canonical archive admins can do removals though.21:12
jtaylork, thanks for the removals21:13
ScottKYou're welcome.21:18
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ajmitchwe need more non-canonical AAs21:22
tumbleweedthat doesn't seem to be something that'll happen in a hurry21:25
tumbleweedwe're very conservative about appointing AAs21:26
ajmitchno, but it might help with the queue length at times, and I think that AAs don't require shell access now?21:26
tumbleweedAAs don't have shell access any more21:27
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tumbleweed(AFAIK)21:27
* ajmitch can understand the need to be conservative, but we get told that the existing AAs have no time21:31
tumbleweedLaney: become an AA, already21:32
Laneyno u21:32
ajmitchLaney: but you understand our problems, you're our only hope!21:33
Laneyyou both need to volunteer yourselves21:33
ajmitchthey wouldn't take me :)21:34
Laneyone way to find out :-(21:34
tumbleweedwell, at least the upload queue issue should be much better now that SRU and release teams have access21:34
ajmitchtumbleweed: NEW isn't21:34
tumbleweedajmitch: technically, I think the release team may be able to do it. But not without permission21:35
ajmitchas long as someone does it21:36
tumbleweedI assume we'll have follow-up UDS sessions about this all21:36
Laneyless complain more volunteer21:36
Laneyseriously!21:36
ajmitchLaney: I offered on IRC, no response21:36
tumbleweedLaney: I thought the policy was no !canonical (except ScottK, he's special)21:36
LaneyI would be very surprised if there were such a policy21:37
Laneydear thread, you are too big21:37
* ajmitch is struggling to keep up with reading the arb process thread21:38
iuliantumbleweed: We've got the button to do NEW but we need some training first before pushing it. :)21:40
* Laney is mailing21:43
ajmitchuh oh21:43
Laneyboom21:48
xnoxLaney: well there are some actions which !canonical can't do, although that may have changed with all the lp work that landed to not require shell access on canonical servers.21:48
xnoxLaney: ajmitch: according to infinity, if you are good enough they invite people to train up and become AA21:49
ajmitchxnox: that's good21:50
LaneyI think the difference is pretty small now21:51
Laneydefinitely does not include NEW21:51
xnoxajmitch: I will pretend that I know this _not_ because I've asked to be AA.....21:51
Laneyhoepfully the mail will prompt some invites to be issued21:51
* xnox looks all innocent =)21:51
xnoxLaney: are you in the office on Friday then?21:51
Laneywell21:51
Laneyfind me a cheap way to get there from Nottingham and I will come21:51
Laneytrains are £££21:52
ajmitchheh21:52
ajmitchLaney: cheaper for you to get there than me :)21:52
iulianHeh. That was a good one. :)21:52
xnoxLaney: =))) ok.21:52
LaneyI could start cycling now?21:52
xnoxLOL21:53
iulianWhy not?21:53
iulianYou'll get here by Friday I reckon.21:53
ajmitchit does sort of exclude doing useful work in the meantime21:55
xnoxLaney: you could be the new uds story "somebody cycles from nottingham to London to rebuild packages for 1 hour and cycle back home to get home by monday" =)))))21:57
ajmitchcrazy people :)21:57
Laneyhur de hur21:58

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