=== gallth is now known as tgall_foo === em is now known as em_ === em_ is now known as em === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === Kiall is now known as zz_Kiall [07:07] good morning === zz_Kiall is now known as Kiall [07:45] Morning dholbach. [07:47] hi iulian [08:02] hi [08:06] ajmitch! [08:35] iulian! [08:35] (yes I know I replied late :) ) [08:36] :) [13:21] Sorry to break this very awesome silent but do all paquets contained in this page http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/gnome.html must have to be updated ? [13:21] *packets === jbicha is now known as Guest14986 [13:23] no [13:23] there's a key at the bottom, but in any case each update should be considered on a case-by-case basis === Guest14986 is now known as jbicha_ === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [16:40] ScottK: ooh, going to UDS again? [16:40] ooh and Emmet too buy the looks of things [17:06] any patch pilots around? [17:07] achiang: herton in -devel [17:07] jtaylor: cool, thanks [17:14] highvoltage: you're going twice? i see [17:14] tumbleweed: why go once when I can go twice for just twice the price? [17:15] do you get to share a room with yourself? [17:15] (that could be awkward) [17:15] good question. [17:32] achiang: about wader, as there are API changes, but no consumer in the archive, I'm torn, but I think you should ask for an FFe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess [17:33] micahg: hm, yeah, there are no consumers that i'm aware of. :-/ [17:34] micahg: i mean, anywhere, at all, let alone the archive [17:36] micahg: i will ask for FFe, thanks [17:42] micahg: did your ruby-vmc ping get any pongs? [17:42] jtaylor: sorry, I wasn't clear yesterday, when I said go for it, I meant file for the removal of ruby-vmc [17:44] I though you wanted check if people and canonical use it? [17:44] and/at [17:45] jtaylor: I did and was told it's ok to remove :), we'll see if anyone screams when we file for removal [17:48] achiang, micahg: Do you want me to reject it for now and see the outcome of the FFe? [17:48] tumbleweed: can you ack the removal in the ffe? [17:48] iulian: please [17:49] 1045460 [17:49] micahg: It's gone. [17:49] iulian: thanks [17:50] jtaylor: aren't you removing both packages now? why do you need an ACK? [17:50] the ffe was for trying to fix it [17:50] removing needs ffe's too I guessed [17:50] jtaylor: nope, not unless it's going to break something else [18:34] highvoltage: Yes. === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan [21:11] ScottK: I didn't know your an archive admin [21:11] is that new? [21:12] jtaylor: No. I have been for several years. It's relatively new that non-Canonical archive admins can do removals though. [21:13] k, thanks for the removals [21:18] You're welcome. === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [21:22] we need more non-canonical AAs [21:25] that doesn't seem to be something that'll happen in a hurry [21:26] we're very conservative about appointing AAs [21:26] no, but it might help with the queue length at times, and I think that AAs don't require shell access now? [21:27] AAs don't have shell access any more === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [21:27] (AFAIK) [21:31] * ajmitch can understand the need to be conservative, but we get told that the existing AAs have no time [21:32] Laney: become an AA, already [21:32] no u [21:33] Laney: but you understand our problems, you're our only hope! [21:33] you both need to volunteer yourselves [21:34] they wouldn't take me :) [21:34] one way to find out :-( [21:34] well, at least the upload queue issue should be much better now that SRU and release teams have access [21:34] tumbleweed: NEW isn't [21:35] ajmitch: technically, I think the release team may be able to do it. But not without permission [21:36] as long as someone does it [21:36] I assume we'll have follow-up UDS sessions about this all [21:36] less complain more volunteer [21:36] seriously! [21:36] Laney: I offered on IRC, no response [21:36] Laney: I thought the policy was no !canonical (except ScottK, he's special) [21:37] I would be very surprised if there were such a policy [21:37] dear thread, you are too big [21:38] * ajmitch is struggling to keep up with reading the arb process thread [21:40] tumbleweed: We've got the button to do NEW but we need some training first before pushing it. :) [21:43] * Laney is mailing [21:43] uh oh [21:48] boom [21:48] Laney: well there are some actions which !canonical can't do, although that may have changed with all the lp work that landed to not require shell access on canonical servers. [21:49] Laney: ajmitch: according to infinity, if you are good enough they invite people to train up and become AA [21:50] xnox: that's good [21:51] I think the difference is pretty small now [21:51] definitely does not include NEW [21:51] ajmitch: I will pretend that I know this _not_ because I've asked to be AA..... [21:51] hoepfully the mail will prompt some invites to be issued [21:51] * xnox looks all innocent =) [21:51] Laney: are you in the office on Friday then? [21:51] well [21:51] find me a cheap way to get there from Nottingham and I will come [21:52] trains are £££ [21:52] heh [21:52] Laney: cheaper for you to get there than me :) [21:52] Heh. That was a good one. :) [21:52] Laney: =))) ok. [21:52] I could start cycling now? [21:53] LOL [21:53] Why not? [21:53] You'll get here by Friday I reckon. [21:55] it does sort of exclude doing useful work in the meantime [21:57] Laney: you could be the new uds story "somebody cycles from nottingham to London to rebuild packages for 1 hour and cycle back home to get home by monday" =))))) [21:57] crazy people :) [21:58] hur de hur