| jrwren | rick_h_: i've gotten a lot out of your pyohio talk. a couple of huge gems for me. | 00:50 |
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| brousch | Yeah, it was another good rick_h_ talk | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: ? cool | 00:51 |
| jrwren | lots of beginner stuf that I didn't know about or how to use properly. even just setup.py | 00:55 |
| jrwren | especially the setup.py develop command | 00:55 |
| rick_h_ | ah yea, must have stuff for lib dev | 00:56 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: ping, you ever get with Dave in G+? | 02:33 |
| nixternal | rick_h_: any chance your pyohio talk is online somewhere? wouldn't mind watching it. i got a lot out of a vim talk you did years ago :) | 02:45 |
| Blazeix | nixternal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNSIDCwJxAg | 02:47 |
| nixternal | rock on with your bad self. now if you just rick rolled me or carly rae jetson or whatever her name is, me....slick move :) | 02:49 |
| snap-l | nixternal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5P7RsC9TI | 02:50 |
| nixternal | damn, his "I can haz software package" just blatently destroyed me :) | 02:52 |
| greg-g | "how many have documentation.... that's not the code" :) | 02:57 |
| nixternal | yeah, that was a favorite one there. though, i always have documentation | 03:00 |
| nixternal | rick_h_: make sucks! cmake ftw | 03:01 |
| greg-g | what's the best cross platform password manager? I want something I can leave instructions for Carrie to get access to. | 04:09 |
| rick_h_ | nixternal: :P | 10:37 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: I've started to get Erica to use lastpass, though she's only using it in Chrome and on her phone so far | 10:37 |
| brousch | Geekers. I watched this PyOhio video this morning while exercising. Check out my comment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2M2SquTHhc&feature=plcp | 10:46 |
| rick_h_ | lol, awesome | 10:49 |
| rick_h_ | Thanks for supporting Pebble on Kickstarter. It's time for you to tell us where | 10:53 |
| rick_h_ | you live, and to select a color for your Pebble. | 10:53 |
| rick_h_ | woot!!!!!!! | 10:53 |
| brousch | oooooh | 11:17 |
| brousch | That's the android watch, right? | 11:17 |
| snap-l | nice! | 11:20 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: well the bluetooth that talks to android right | 11:27 |
| rick_h_ | though it says I have until sept 30th to change my info so guess it's still at least a month out | 11:27 |
| snap-l | I am a developer. I make things work | 12:05 |
| snap-l | You expect to use whatever I build moments after it's completed, but that's OK, because I'm a developer, and I make things work | 12:06 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: :) kick its butt | 12:06 |
| snap-l | You wouldn't expect to drive on a road seconds after it's paved, but that's OK, because my bits are strong, and tested. | 12:07 |
| rick_h_ | woot! | 12:07 |
| snap-l | (at least, that's what I wish were the case) | 12:08 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: awesome dilbert reference | 12:22 |
| brousch | I posted this to FB yesterday, but you haters can read it on Reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/ze0z4/til_my_son_thinks_chicken_nuggets_are_made_by/ | 12:23 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Thanks. :) | 12:24 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: nice | 12:31 |
| jrwren | greg-g: keepass? | 13:21 |
| jrwren | brousch: we've always been up front with the kid about where every bit of her food comes from. | 13:22 |
| jrwren | we would go to a farm or the zoo and I'd ask her if she would like to kill and eat those animals and explain to her that its how meat gets on her plate. | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | "umm, thank you george, you've got the best t-bones evar!" | 13:23 |
| shakes808 | Good morning all | 13:27 |
| brousch | jrwren: I never really though about it. I've mentioned that meat is from animals, but I guess I wasn't specific enough on what "from" means | 13:33 |
| brousch | He was under the impression the animals give us meat, like as presents or something | 13:34 |
| jrwren | yeah, kids can't imagine killing something to eat it, unless they see it. | 13:37 |
| jjesse | we've told caleb where the food came from | 13:47 |
| jjesse | each time he eats meat we tell him | 13:47 |
| jjesse | for a while he didn't like the texture of it so he was a veggie eater | 13:47 |
| brousch | Yeah, George doesn't like unprocessed meat, like steak or chicken breast | 13:48 |
| jrwren | zomg, my kid is the opposite. | 13:52 |
| jrwren | she loves steak and chicken legs, but does not like hot dogs. | 13:52 |
| jjesse | well she's smart hot dogs are gross | 13:52 |
| jrwren | she does like sausage and bratwurst. those are less processed. | 13:52 |
| jrwren | oh yeah, she is wonderful. | 13:52 |
| jrwren | I go to restaurant with her and we order muscles as apetizer and we eat :) | 13:53 |
| jrwren | so fun diving into muscles with a 4 or 5 yr old. | 13:53 |
| brousch | Do you mean muscles as in what meat is made from, or mussels as in slimy seafood? | 14:11 |
| jrwren | i mean the molusk which grows in the sea. so I meant mussels not muscles | 14:22 |
| jrwren | if you ate 'em slimy, you got 'em wrong. | 14:22 |
| jrwren | try 'em again, they are delicious. | 14:22 |
| brousch | I think you're saying that because you will get your jollies thinking of me eating a glob of snot | 14:28 |
| snap-l | Mussels are good, but they have to be prepared right | 14:30 |
| snap-l | too long, they're superballs | 14:30 |
| snap-l | not enough, they're snotballs | 14:30 |
| snap-l | But damn, they're good. | 14:31 |
| jrwren | brousch: no way, because I love to eat them. I would wish you the joy that I have. What snap-l said. | 14:31 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Next GRPUG is Makefiles vs fabric | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: hah | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | that's easy | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | makefiles = app install, fabric = automating that setup/install across hosts | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | done | 14:58 |
| brousch | Oh great, now I need a whole new topic | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | well just don't tell them how it ends I guess | 14:59 |
| jrwren | exactly. | 15:10 |
| jrwren | i'm using both here too. | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | yea, they really are different uses. At least they're at their best at different uses | 15:18 |
| rick_h_ | but you can always shoe-horn a screw driver into a crowbar and such | 15:18 |
| brousch | I think you'll need a grinder for that conversion | 15:18 |
| brousch | A shoehorn will have little effect on a crowbar | 15:18 |
| brousch | snap-l: You see this? http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/09/05/0512219/sprint-allows-lte-service-over-mobile-virtual-network | 15:21 |
| snap-l | Yeah, unfortunately I haven't been following it because my phone isn't LTE | 15:22 |
| snap-l | But it's nice to see Sprint cooperating | 15:22 |
| snap-l | I think that's going to be key for them | 15:23 |
| greg-g | brousch: Are you serious?! Are you crazy?! :) | 15:26 |
| jjesse | yes brousch is crazy | 15:26 |
| brousch | Yeah, it didn't help that I was cracking up laughing at the whole discussion | 15:26 |
| snap-l | which one? | 15:26 |
| brousch | snap-l: chicken nuggets | 15:31 |
| snap-l | ah | 15:31 |
| snap-l | Chik'n McDeadlets | 15:31 |
| PainBank | anyone tried the Livio Radio app? | 16:04 |
| snap-l | livio being... ? | 16:07 |
| PainBank | livioradio.com | 16:10 |
| PainBank | you might be interested in it snap-l... being a content producer | 16:10 |
| jrwren | looks like hardware, what is the app for? | 16:12 |
| PainBank | ios and android | 16:12 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it's not clear what this iis | 16:12 |
| PainBank | right, their web site is a bit vaguish | 16:12 |
| snap-l | if it's just hardware to play shit in my car, OK, I guess it's cool | 16:12 |
| snap-l | but if it's yet another music streaming service, then no thanks. | 16:12 |
| jrwren | "more than 45,000 stations" are you suggesting snap-l run a station? | 16:13 |
| PainBank | oh, yea, they sell hardware too | 16:13 |
| * snap-l already programs for one station | 16:13 | |
| PainBank | if they pull that station... then...you can reference users to it. | 16:13 |
| snap-l | Looks like yet-another-shoutcast streamer | 16:13 |
| snap-l | like tune-in | 16:14 |
| snap-l | for those of us who don't have bluetooth or aux-in jacks | 16:14 |
| PainBank | collector | 16:14 |
| snap-l | the controller interface looks nice. | 16:14 |
| PainBank | they are local to us... Ferndale | 16:14 |
| snap-l | but that's about the only thing that looks interesting about it | 16:14 |
| snap-l | Cool. I can thonk them on the heads them | 16:15 |
| snap-l | then | 16:15 |
| PainBank | hehe | 16:15 |
| snap-l | It's an FM transmitter w/ Bluetooth in a Bluetooth-direct world | 16:15 |
| snap-l | And having to run their app? No thanks. | 16:16 |
| snap-l | I already have BT in my VW, and an Aux-in cable on my Caliber. | 16:16 |
| PainBank | there ya go | 16:17 |
| snap-l | And my Squeezebox handles the rest | 16:17 |
| snap-l | Had they released this in 2010, I'd be all over it | 16:17 |
| snap-l | It's too late for this | 16:17 |
| jrwren | exactly, too late. | 16:18 |
| jrwren | even 2010 is too late for most. | 16:18 |
| jrwren | this was a hot product in '07 or 08 | 16:18 |
| PainBank | alrighty | 16:18 |
| PainBank | thanks for the thoughts. | 16:19 |
| jrwren | i replaced my car audio head unit in my 10 yr old car, it has USB, charges my phone while i drive, direct audio control, its great. | 16:19 |
| snap-l | PainBank: This would be awesome for the rental-car market | 16:19 |
| PainBank | hmm... | 16:19 |
| PainBank | perhpas | 16:19 |
| snap-l | but I haven't touched a FM transmitter in a year | 16:20 |
| snap-l | and used a cassette adapter on a car that didn't have BT or Aux IN | 16:20 |
| jrwren | fm transmiters suck, I've never seen one work very well. | 16:20 |
| PainBank | but having aux in still requires manipulation of the phone... which is one of the items the hardware tries to solve | 16:20 |
| snap-l | What's the price on the hardware? | 16:21 |
| snap-l | $50? $100? | 16:21 |
| PainBank | jrwren: I have only used one, which had switches for setting the channel and yes, it sucked. don't know how thiers works | 16:21 |
| jrwren | new head units don't use aux in, they use USB and control ipod and android | 16:21 |
| snap-l | If it's under $50, it's remarkable | 16:21 |
| PainBank | I think like $100 | 16:21 |
| snap-l | if it's over $100, it's dead. | 16:21 |
| PainBank | haven't priced it | 16:21 |
| PainBank | that is just one of their products. | 16:21 |
| jrwren | only a nutter would pay $100, when you can get a whole new car head unit for $150 and a great one for a little more. | 16:21 |
| PainBank | they have a radio that does it... | 16:21 |
| snap-l | PainBank: Yeah, they rebranded a Gracenote radio | 16:22 |
| snap-l | whoopdie-freaking doo | 16:22 |
| PainBank | prob like the squeezebox, but i haven't used one of those either | 16:22 |
| * PainBank blankly stares off in to space having never used a Gracenote radio... | 16:22 | |
| rick_h_ | #$@#$ hate them | 16:23 |
| snap-l | PainBank: Squeezebox is awesome. I wrote a column for Linux Journal about it | 16:23 |
| PainBank | haha | 16:23 |
| rick_h_ | if gracenote == grace audio that is | 16:23 |
| PainBank | I know, I saw a post of yours about it sometime ago | 16:23 |
| jrwren | squeezebox is AWESOME. I'm listening on squeeze slave RIGHT NOW | 16:23 |
| snap-l | http://www.livioradio.com/pandora-radio-by-livio/ | 16:23 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: ^^ | 16:23 |
| rick_h_ | yea, seems similar | 16:24 |
| jrwren | $200 | 16:24 |
| PainBank | yup, expensive | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | all these net radios are | 16:24 |
| jrwren | i seriously don't get it. | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | and no google music :( | 16:24 |
| jrwren | for $200, I could get a $129 ipod touch and a "radio" dock. Guess which one is more powerful? | 16:25 |
| jrwren | these companies are nuts, I feel bad for teir investors. | 16:25 |
| PainBank | the google phone | 16:25 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: https://twitter.com/rickasaurus/status/243383714908889090 | 16:27 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Heh | 16:27 |
| jrwren | hrm, that is a strange dilber. | 16:29 |
| greg-g | yeah, didn't seem funny to me | 16:33 |
| greg-g | of course, dilbert hasn't for years | 16:33 |
| rick_h_ | oh come on, that's funny :P | 16:33 |
| snap-l | Philistines. | 16:39 |
| brousch | My kid would gladly burn his Thomas lunch boxes for this http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f0b5/?cpg=gplus | 17:32 |
| jrwren | it may as well be jar jar binks. | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | heh, so greg-g better get a bookie android app before I ever do an iApp :) | 17:54 |
| jrwren | is it weird that i prefer "".format() to % in python? | 17:56 |
| jrwren | what would a bookie android app do? | 17:57 |
| jrwren | let you retag? browse by tag and date? | 17:57 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: no, .format is the preferred | 17:57 |
| rick_h_ | but it'll fail 2.6 and lower if I recall | 17:57 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: a bookie android app would 1) Provide an intent to store urls from twitter/googlereader/etc to bookie | 17:58 |
| rick_h_ | 2) Provide the ability to see the list of bookmarks, search, and read the readable content of bookmarks from the web app | 17:58 |
| rick_h_ | 3) WHen I get the readable view, provide the read-it-later process to pull up your mobile device and read the parsed content of the articles marked !toread | 17:58 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: you better :) | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: :P | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | I've still got to see about that hook up for newsblur -> bookie | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | I have to say, I'm jealous of how far he's gone with that | 18:01 |
| jrwren | shit, i'm targetting 2.6 on this. I hope format works. | 18:03 |
| rick_h_ | http://docs.python.org/library/string.html#string-formatting | 18:03 |
| rick_h_ | yea, sorry I was off. Added in 2.6 | 18:03 |
| jrwren | yeah, i just confirmed | 18:04 |
| jrwren | you scared me for a sec | 18:04 |
| rick_h_ | yea, sometimes that stuff in 2.5/6/7 blurs a little bit | 18:04 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Yeah, I hit a problem with that early on trying to run Bookie on Dreamhost. They only had 2.5 at the time | 18:05 |
| brousch | I should try again now that 2.6 is available on some servers | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, I'd hit it once in a while on older systems since the prev ubuntu LTS was 2.5 and RH stuff was 2.4/5 | 18:05 |
| jrwren | suddenly i'm more content to be on 2.6 | 18:13 |
| rick_h_ | 2.7 ftw, argparse, ordereddict, dict/set comprehensions | 18:15 |
| jrwren | dict comprehensions? | 18:16 |
| jrwren | for k,p in dict doesn't work in 2.6? | 18:16 |
| jrwren | oh wait... nevermind, I remember what you mean. | 18:16 |
| rick_h_ | {x: x*x for x in range(6)} | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | {0: 0, 1: 1, 2: 4, 3: 9, 4: 16, 5: 25} | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | generate a dict straight from a comprehension | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | vs dict([(k, v) for x, x*x in range(6)]) | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | LTE users check their phone twice as often than 3G users. 39/day vs 63/per | 18:18 |
| rick_h_ | interesting quote ^ | 18:18 |
| brousch | Those bastards. They should pay twice as much! | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | grrr, promising jelly bean to new moto phones...where's my jelly bean on my nexus dammit! | 18:37 |
| brousch | I thought you have had it since the beginning | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | no, that was 4.0, not 4.1 which came out in the N7/Google IO | 18:40 |
| brousch | Be happy you have 4 | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | no, I refuse :P | 18:41 |
| brousch | I'm still all on 2.3 | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: did you root to something with jellybean? I might start looking at that path | 18:42 |
| Blazeix | rick_h_: yeah, in the xda forums there are a bunch of jellybean-based roms | 18:42 |
| Blazeix | i chose one that seemed somewhat legit and flashed it | 18:42 |
| Blazeix | i've been meaning to try out AOKP, since that has a jellybean release now | 18:44 |
| Blazeix | i was using that pre-jellybean and liked it | 18:44 |
| rick_h_ | yea, might have to check that out | 18:44 |
| brousch | jrwren: Wait, what, doll house furniture? | 20:32 |
| brousch | I must see this | 20:32 |
| snap-l | brousch: You ever been to Frankenmuth? | 20:48 |
| brousch | I have not | 20:48 |
| snap-l | Rau's Country Shop has a TON of dollhouse stuff | 20:48 |
| snap-l | Worth the day-trip | 20:49 |
| brousch | I just wanted to see jrwren's stuff | 20:49 |
| jrwren | brousch: i don't do it. i was just making suggestions. That one was inspired by The Wire | 21:39 |
| brousch | jrwren: Bah, now I'm disappointed | 22:05 |
| brousch | I had visions of you painstakingly carving cute little chairs and tea tables for your little girl, then painting them pink with little yellow flowers. | 22:16 |
| brousch | How do you verify that something like this is legit? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGlJRjhnZlJ1Q2VzZVF1N3hQenQ4X1E6MQ#gid=0 | 22:43 |
| snap-l | brousch: I have no idea | 22:49 |
| shakes808 | Check | 23:49 |
| rick_h_ | dsschnau: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/772/ for select, but what insert are you looking to do? | 23:53 |
| rick_h_ | dsschnau: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/773/ | 23:56 |
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