[04:49] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:08] <superfly> morning Kilos 
[05:08] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[05:09] <jrgns> morning
[05:10] <jrgns> you good?
[05:17] <Kilos> yip ty and you?
[05:50] <magespawn> good morning all
[06:08] <Squirm> morning
[06:13] <jrgns> good thnx
[06:15] <Kilos> hi magespawn Squirm 
[06:15] <Kilos> lo Tonberry 
[06:15] <Tonberry> hallo
[06:16] <magespawn> hey Kilos, jrgns, Squirm ,Tonberry
[06:17] <jrgns> hey megaspawn
[06:50] <magespawn> Kilos do you still have the email address for vodacom ceo?
[06:55] <Kilos> sec ill find it for you
[06:55] <Kilos> he retired but new guy there
[06:58] <magespawn> that cool Kilos
[07:06] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:07] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[07:07] <Kilos> i think this is the new guy magespawn  Shameel Joosub
[07:07] <Kilos> havent found mail addy yet
[07:09] <Kilos> hes on twitter http://twitter.com/shameeljoosub
[07:09] <Kilos> and fb  http://www.facebook.com/shameel.joosub.7
[07:10] <Kilos> do you use them magespawn ?
[07:10] <Kilos> dont see a mail addy
[07:11] <Kilos> lost all the addies when i formatted ext to try get 12.04 to work on it
[07:13] <Kilos> go 8ta, service is much better, even the customer care peeps are more efficient
[07:16] <Kilos> oh i forgot
[07:16] <Kilos> Maaz, voda complaints
[07:16] <Maaz> ECLO.Tswai@vodacom.co.za
[07:16] <Kilos> there you go magespawn 
[07:16] <Kilos> thats to their top guys
[07:16] <Squirm> hmm
[07:16] <Kilos> hi hmm
[07:17] <Squirm> sounds like we're going to bond, 3x4Mb lines next year
[07:17] <Squirm> currently we have 1
[07:17] <Kilos> that can help
[07:18] <Squirm> maybe I should stay another year :P
[07:20] <Squirm> hmm
[07:21] <Squirm> make the 4x4Mb
[07:23] <Kilos> you planning on moving on Squirm 
[07:23] <Kilos> were you?
[07:27] <DigiGram> good morning
[07:27] <DigiGram>  go 8ta, service is much better, even the customer care peeps are more efficient --> 
[07:28] <DigiGram> last time we asked when 8ta will have coverage in Potch, the lady told us they are using the existing telephone poles, so they already have nation wide coverage
[07:28] <DigiGram> when asked how your cell will connect to the telephone line, she stopped and referred us to someone else lol
[07:30] <Kerbero> lol
[07:31] <Kilos> lol
[07:31] <Kilos> hi DigiGram Kerbero 
[07:32] <Kilos> DigiGram, when you fone them talk to the data guys
[07:32] <Kilos> they ask where you stay and check if you have coverage there too
[07:32] <DigiGram> well, I'm off again, going to try running Clonezilla from a USB drive, my normal bootable USB does not want to boot it... hmmm
[07:33] <DigiGram> afterwards I've talked to them, no coverage for data here yet
[07:33] <Kilos> good luck
[07:33] <Kilos> aw
[07:33] <Kilos> they then share withmtn as well
[07:33] <DigiGram> Cell C only covered 3G here about 2 weeks ago
[07:33] <Kilos> dont you have cell coverage there
[07:34] <Kilos> where are you
[07:34] <DigiGram> Potchefstroom
[07:34] <DigiGram> MTN has great coverage here
[07:34] <DigiGram> even in the basements
[07:34] <Kilos> 8ta and mtn share
[07:34] <DigiGram> Cell C had good GSM coverage, only introduced 3G recently though
[07:34] <Kilos> where they dont have their own towers
[07:35] <Kilos> roaming i think they call it
[07:35] <DigiGram> oh cool, will have a look, I want something with good coverage for my iPad
[07:35] <DigiGram> oh yes, Cell C roams with Vodacom
[07:35] <magespawn> DigiGram did you use tuxboot to ser u0 the clonezilla?
[07:36] <Kilos> ya and when voda is busy the limit cellc users
[07:36] <magespawn> Kilos thank you
[07:36] <Kilos> been there done that
[07:36] <DigiGram> Cell C gave me a good contract, so I'm happy to stick it out with them
[07:36] <Kilos> np magespawn 
[07:36] <DigiGram> YUMI from pendrivelinux.com magespawn 
[07:37] <magespawn> let me know if it works, they reccommen tuxboot
[07:37] <DigiGram> I'll let you know, otherwise I'll try tuxboot
[07:40] <DigiGram> let me go try it, I need to get my installation over to a new harddrive and then need to clone the system, so here goes nothing
[07:41] <magespawn> good luck
[07:51] <DigiGram> okay, so Clonezilla boots, but I think I need to google it more to actually be able to use it lol
[07:52] <Kilos> lol
[08:27] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:38] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos, always wide awake I see
[08:39] <Kilos> except when im sleeping
[08:39] <Kilos> hehe
[08:40] <Vince-0> do you have IRC open on a screen always?
[08:40] <Kilos> yip on its own desktop
[08:40] <Kilos> workspace
[08:41] <Kilos> one whole workspace just for xchat
[09:36] <DigiGram> magespawn, YUMI worked great for Clonezilla, Just the one USB drive that does not want to boot on that specific PC
[09:38] <DigiGram> a question for you guys.. with all of the DE's around, what would give a nice spinn-off between performance and looks on 1GB ram, Centrino?? LXDE is good, but can't seem to customize it much, XFCE I just don't like, Unity, well, lets leave it at that, and KDE is way to slow, and I presume after 10.10 that just got worse
[09:41] <Kilos> lol
[09:41] <Kilos> 10.10 is/was great
[09:41] <DigiGram> I know the best performance will be on a newer PC, but my budget does not allow that at this moment
[09:42] <Kilos> have you looked at lubuntu
[09:42] <DigiGram> I actually loved KDE at work, but even with the Dual core and 2GB ram it had serious lag while using the browser and stuff like that
[09:43] <Kilos> or mint
[09:43] <DigiGram> I'm using lubuntu at home for now (LXDE) but I want to try something with a bit more beauty lol
[09:43] <DigiGram> I'll try mint, maybe I must set up a quick VM to test the two mint versions and see which I like more
[09:44] <Kilos> DigiGram, what connw=ection you using?
[09:44] <Kilos> whew
[09:44] <Kilos> connection
[09:45] <DigiGram> at home I have iBurst wireless, but here I'm on an Uncapped TENET line with this speed: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2120673249.png
[09:45] <DigiGram> and also most new distro's are cached on campus, so I can try anything
[09:46] <Kilos> if you like playing look at tinycorelinux
[09:46] <Kilos> methinks you can customise it to suit yourself
[09:47] <Kilos> needs cable connection to start off as you need to get everything for it
[09:47] <Kilos> the basic gui was quite cute
[09:48] <DigiGram> wow it actually looks nice
[09:48] <Kilos> and tons of packages are up there
[09:48] <Kilos> even xchat
[09:48] <DigiGram> I have tried puppy as well, the one based on ubuntu worked good for me, but I set it up as a PC-on-the-go on my USB drive, I prefer ubuntu at the heart of my computer
[09:49] <Kilos> lol thats why i am braving it out with unity
[09:50] <Kilos> tiny is very fast
[09:50] <DigiGram> I'm still dumb with linux, so I like something I can easily google, and I love apt-get
[09:51] <Kilos> lol
[09:51] <DigiGram> tiny really looks good, I think I'll set it up in a VM, or maybe install to a USB drive
[09:51] <Kilos> thats an idea. it might even work on my 2g stick
[09:53] <DigiGram> I have on a 4GB stick AcronisAntimalwareScanCD, AVG Live CD, clonezilla, Hirens, SafeCD and Puppy Linux
[09:53] <DigiGram> it helps to have all of it in one place
[09:53] <Kilos> whew
[09:53] <DigiGram> with an image of the stick on my computer offcourse, IT WILL GO BAD sometime or another
[09:53] <Kilos> whats avg live
[09:54] <DigiGram> a LiveCD virus scanner
[09:54] <Kilos> avg is antivirus
[09:54] <Kilos> haha
[09:54] <Kilos> dont need that with linux
[09:54] <DigiGram> In a perfect world every person might use Linux, but around here I'm the only one, and I'm the pc go to guy
[09:54] <DigiGram> so I do need it often
[09:54] <Kilos> shame
[09:55] <Kilos> avast is better than avg
[09:55] <DigiGram> it depends
[09:55] <Kilos> avg really slows a pc down
[09:55] <DigiGram> in most scenario's avast was just a blob for me... I worked at IT helpdesk on campus, so I saw lots and lots of virusses
[09:56] <DigiGram> yeah but when you use a LiveCD you do not worry about Windows that slows the PC down, as it boots in a Linux environment
[09:56] <Kilos> ah
[10:17] <Kilos> hi aquarat 
[10:26] <aquarat> Hi kilos :-) 
[10:32] <superfly> too much backlog to read. Kilos you're being noisy again :-P
[10:32] <Kilos> ai sorry superfly 
[10:33]  * Kilos sulks inna corner
[10:37] <Symmetria> dammit
[10:37] <Symmetria> 4th bird my dog has killed this morning
[10:38] <Kilos> feed him
[10:42] <Symmetria> lol
[10:42] <Symmetria> she doesnt wanna eat them
[10:42] <Symmetria> she just wants to chase anything that moves
[10:42] <Symmetria> birds, grasshoppers, moths, if its smaller than her, and it moves, its there to be hunted 
[10:42] <Symmetria> and she's scarily good at it 
[10:42] <Symmetria> :p
[10:43] <Kilos> lol
[10:44] <Symmetria> heh I watched her take out a bird this morning before I could stop her, she goes into this kinda leopard crawl pose and stalks the damn birds with infinite patience
[10:44] <Symmetria> till she is close enough and then wham, dead bird
[10:44] <Symmetria> and holy hell she's fast
[10:45] <Kilos> get a big pot and make wild bird soup for her supper
 you planning on moving on Squirm <-- Kilos: I'm looking to find a job in a linux field as a sys admin. so I want to continuously move in that direction. but I guess another year won't hurt. hopefully they'll have a better contract for me in the next month :P (Only had a 1 year contract but afaik it's being renewed)
[10:58] <Kilos> ah
[11:03] <magespawn> thanks DigiGram nice to know it works with others too.
[11:04] <DigiGram> jip, and it worked great, just didn't know the disk whereto I made the image had only 2GB free space, so I'm formatting then running it again after lunch
[12:29] <Squirm> Kilos: yesp
[12:29] <Squirm> yep*
[12:29] <Squirm> going to see what they offer me and if I can find something in a more appropriate line of work
[12:30] <Kilos> what are you doing there now?
[12:30] <Squirm> mainly technical support really
[12:31] <Squirm> maintenance, upgrades, installations
[12:31] <Kilos> well see what they offer first. work not easy to find at the mo
[12:31] <Squirm> yeah
[12:32] <Squirm> I like it here, even on the big stuff my input is taken into account
[12:32]  * _DigiGram_ is maybe moving to Cape Town for work...
[12:32] <_DigiGram_> to be a minnion
[12:32] <Squirm> might not be used, but it's not brushed aside and it is considered
[12:32] <Kilos> dig?
[12:33] <Kilos> DigiGram, ?
[12:33] <Kilos> when is your contract up Squirm 
[12:33] <Kilos> minnion
[12:33] <Kilos> slave
[12:33] <DigiGram> that is nice to have such a position Squirm, a lot of places just follows their own head without concidering your input
[12:33] <DigiGram> yes Kilos?
[12:34] <Squirm> Kilos: it's up end of the year
[12:34] <Kilos> then make them think they cant do without you Squirm 
[12:34] <Kilos> DigiGram, you got a job there already?
[12:35] <DigiGram> yip, just waiting for the contract
[12:35] <Kilos> and minnion?
[12:37] <DigiGram> lol nah I just meant over here I've got a good position in my company, but with no prospects of improving. now I'm going to be at the bottom of the bottoms on an oil rig...
[12:37] <Kilos> ah 
[12:37] <Kilos> Maaz, define minion
[12:37] <Maaz> Kilos: Minion \Min"ion\, a. [See 2d {Minion}.] Fine; trim; dainty. [Obs.] "Their . . . minion dancing." --Fryth. [1913 Webster], Minion \Min"ion\, n. Minimum. [Obs.] --Burton. [1913 Webster], Minion \Min"ion\, n. [F. mignon, fr. OHG. minni love, G. minne; akin to E. mind. See {Mind}, and cf. {Mignonette}.] [1913 Webster] 1. A loved one; one highly esteemed and favored; -- in a good sense. [Obs.] [1913 Webster]  God's disciple and his deares
[12:39] <DigiGram> mmm, not quite the definition of minion I had in mind hehe
[12:44] <smile4> hi :)
[12:44] <Kilos> hi smile4 
[12:45] <smile4> Kilos: :D
[12:45] <smile4> school sucks sometimes ;)
[12:45] <smile4> but you learn a lot :)
[12:46] <Kilos> yeah if it wasnt for schools youd be grunting in a cave somewhere
[12:49] <smile4> really :p
[13:13]  * smile listens to Eddy Grant - Gimme Hope, Joanna
[13:13] <magespawn> lol
[13:16] <smile> :)
[13:16] <smile> Maaz: hug
[13:16] <Maaz> smile: *blink*
[13:16] <smile> :D
[13:45] <magespawn> Maaz smile is showing you some love
[13:45] <Maaz> magespawn: I'll remember that
[13:46] <smile> magespawn: Yes I like that :)
[13:46] <smile> :D
[13:46] <smile> Maaz where are you?
[13:46] <Maaz> smile: I am your new robot overlord
[13:46] <smile> Maaz, I didn't ask for that
[13:46] <Maaz> smile: *blink*
[13:46] <magespawn> sometimes the bot is only a bot afterall
[13:46] <smile> yea :(
[13:47] <smile> but he can give hugs, magespawn :D
[13:47] <magespawn> indeed
[13:47] <smile> if he wanted to.
[13:47] <smile> :p
[13:47] <smile> Maaz: big hug
[13:47] <Maaz> smile: Huh?
[13:47] <smile> :o
[13:47] <smile> how was your day magespawn ? :)
[14:09] <DigiGram> Maaz, botsnack
[14:09] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[14:09] <DigiGram> thats for being such a nice bot
[14:09] <DigiGram> and offering to make me coffee tomorrow morning
[14:09] <DigiGram> so long guys, and thanx for all the fish
[14:20] <Kilos> bbl
[14:23] <magespawn> Busy and you  smile?
[14:23] <magespawn> maybe you can tell but the long response time lol
[14:23] <magespawn> but=by
[14:24] <smile> magespawn: I'm busy too :p trying to get google in fuckin' iframe :p
[14:24] <smile> :)
[14:32] <magespawn> good luck with that
[14:32] <magespawn> later all
[14:52] <smile> later :p
[14:52] <smile> It doesn't work, google doesn't allow it
[14:52] <smile> not sure what to do
[14:52] <smile> :p
[15:02] <Squirm> evening
[16:36] <nuvolari> sars efiling se gat! :-/
[16:36] <nuvolari> it does'nt freaking work
[16:36] <nuvolari> I have flash installed and it's working fine when testing on other sites
[16:37] <nuvolari> but nooooo, I don't know what rubbish detection they use
[16:44] <Symmetria> lol
[16:44] <Symmetria> I saw such a brilliant idea
[16:44] <Symmetria> lets start a dodgy chain of motels
[16:44] <Symmetria> for business people having affairs with other business people
[16:44] <Symmetria> and call it "linkedinn"
[16:44] <Symmetria> :p
[16:45] <Symmetria> amazon aws can run it and you can have it by the hour on your credit card
[16:45] <Symmetria> :p
[16:48] <Kerbero> lol
[16:59]  * smile4ever listens to Bob Marley - Is this Love
[17:01] <smile4ever> Maaz: Do you like me? :p
[17:01] <Maaz> smile4ever: Sorry...
[17:01] <smile4ever> Maaz: music is cool
[17:01] <Maaz> smile4ever: Got it
[17:01] <smile4ever> :D
[17:10] <Symmetria> hrm
[17:10] <Symmetria> bob marley
[17:10] <Symmetria> aint listened to that in a while
[17:22] <superfly> nuvolari: yes, I had the same happen to me the other night
[17:25] <smile4ever> Symmetria: really like some of his songs
[17:25] <smile4ever> the less drunk ones ;)
[17:26] <Symmetria> heh I been listening to lotsa sam roberts lately
[17:26] <Symmetria> and the eels
[17:26] <Symmetria> and a load of amy mcdonald
[17:26] <Symmetria> :p
[17:32] <smile4ever> :p
[17:33] <smile4ever> Yes I know, I know, I know! :D
[17:34] <smile4ever> Now.. :p
[17:34] <smile4ever> I wanna love you
[17:34] <smile4ever> love and treat you right :D
[17:34] <smile4ever> I wanna love you
[17:34] <smile4ever> every day and every night
[17:34] <smile4ever> :D
[17:36]  * smile4ever listens to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x59kS2AOrGM
[17:55] <smile4ever> Cantide: sudo! :D
[17:55] <smile4ever> :p
[17:55] <Cantide> '<
[17:55] <Cantide> hello
[17:55] <smile4ever> Cantide: are you in love :p
[17:56] <Cantide> smile4ever ?
[17:57] <smile4ever> yes :p
[17:57] <smile4ever> @ Cantide 
[17:57] <smile4ever> :p
[17:57] <Cantide> why do you ask? 'o'
[18:01] <nuvolari> hmm, superfly, did you do anything to have it detected correctly?
[18:08] <superfly> not yet
[18:24] <smile4ever> Cantide: curious :D
[18:24] <Cantide> smile4ever, i may be
[18:24] <Cantide> but i have exams in 8 weeks
[18:24] <Cantide> so now is not a time for it :p
[18:24] <smile4ever> Cantide: so you are waiting.? ;)
[18:25] <Cantide> something like that
[18:25] <Cantide> it's a bit more complex :p
[18:30] <smile4ever> byeee :)
[18:30] <smile4ever> Cantide: good luck
[18:30] <smile4ever> :)
[18:30] <Cantide> bye 'o'
[18:30] <Cantide> umm, thanks :p
[18:30] <smile4ever> :)
[18:31] <superfly> nuvolari: which browser?
[19:54] <nuvolari> superfly: I tried both firefox and chromium
[19:54] <nuvolari> I had issues with chromium not even displaying flash content
[19:54] <nuvolari> then installed flash from adobe's site (manual extraction and copy to directories)
[19:55] <nuvolari> and then it worked fine for both
[19:55] <nuvolari> adobe's site report chrome's flash as 11.2.something
[19:56] <superfly> and what version of flash were they looking for?
[19:56] <nuvolari> 10.1 or later
[19:59] <superfly> but I have 11.2 ?
[19:59] <nuvolari> hmm, let me check my cookies
[20:04] <nuvolari> nope, I hive up
[20:04] <nuvolari> *ive
[20:04] <nuvolari> *give
[20:04] <nuvolari> it doesn't like me :P
[20:05] <superfly> still doesn't work for me either
[20:06] <nuvolari> oh! hmm
[20:06] <nuvolari> maybe I should report it to them
[20:07] <magespawn> i could only get the site to work on windows
[20:07] <nuvolari> :O
[20:08] <nuvolari> maybe I should try installing acrobat
[20:09] <magespawn> bit like cipro only works with ie and they do not bother to tell you either.
[20:09] <magespawn> good evening by the by
[20:10]  * nuvolari tips hat
[20:10] <nuvolari> g'evening :)
[20:10] <superfly> nuvolari: if they actually respond to any e-mails
[20:10] <superfly> the last time I tried to get anything out of them I was left with fines to pay because they never bothered to help me
[20:11] <magespawn> just goes to show
[20:11] <nuvolari> :-/ crooks
[20:11] <magespawn> another reason why i don't
[20:12] <nuvolari> hmm, they probably don't have 'the internets' because I can't find an email address :P
[20:14] <nuvolari> I'll comment on their facebook page and mention 'computer discrimination'
[20:14] <nuvolari> rather Operating System discrimination?
[20:14] <superfly> nuvolari: don't use the "d" word
[20:15] <superfly> just tell them that you are unable to file your taxes because their site is broken, and could they please fix it ASAP.
[20:15] <nuvolari> unequal computer treatment :P
[20:15] <superfly> nuvolari: what's their FB page?
[20:15] <nuvolari> http://www.facebook.com/sarstax
[20:15] <nuvolari> but looks like you'll need to like it first before you can complain, which kinda sucks 
[20:17] <magespawn> because we Don't Like it.
[20:17] <nuvolari> ok, unliking, since liking doesn't change anything
[20:17] <nuvolari> I can fill out the recommendation section
[20:17] <superfly> nuvolari: if you refresh you should see my comment
[20:18] <nuvolari> ha, I'm next in line, hang on
[20:19] <magespawn> how the little one superfly?
[20:22] <superfly> magespawn: the usual. fussbucket
[20:22] <magespawn> they grow out of that..... eventually
[20:23] <superfly> nuvolari: yeah, SARS is useless
[20:23] <superfly> well, their call centre and their e-mail support
[20:23] <superfly> I wonder what complaining on HelloPeter would do?
[20:23] <nuvolari> heh, every comment in the recommendation list is actually a complaint.
[20:24] <superfly> heh. SARS doesn't respond on HelloPeter, so no point
[20:24] <magespawn> make you have to pay more tax
[20:24] <magespawn> ?
[20:25] <nuvolari> ooh... let's report the sars facebook page for fraud :P
[20:26] <magespawn> lol
[20:59] <magespawn> good night y'all