[00:17] <SirSkidmore> Should I actively been developing for GTK2 or 3?
[17:06] <bismay> Hii I want to be an ubuntu app developer any suggestions from where I should start?? Currently i have knowledge of c and c++
[17:09] <bismay> What extra languages should I learn besides C and C++ that would help me??
[17:11] <tsimpson> probably Python is a good language to learn
[17:19] <commandoline> bismay: I like Python too, but you can use C++ and C too if you don't want to learn a new one. More important is mastering a graphical user interface framework: e.g. GTK+ or Qt.
[17:32] <bismay> commandoline, thanks...:)
[23:18] <zodiak> hey guys and gals, anyone help me with pbuilder ?
[23:18] <zodiak> it seems that it's not resolving base things such as debhelper
[23:19] <zodiak> or pep8
[23:19] <zodiak> which, has me scratching my head
[23:27] <zodiak> anyone ?
[23:28] <tsimpson> zodiak: try "sudo pbuilder --login" to debug that kind of thing, and add "--save-after-login" to make changes persistant
[23:29] <zodiak> aaahh.. that will drop me into the chroot env ?
[23:29] <tsimpson> yep
[23:29] <zodiak> awesome. danke.
[23:44] <zodiak> aahhhh
[23:44] <zodiak> DOH
[23:45] <zodiak> so, I was trying to build a quantal package against a precise build-tarball
[23:45] <zodiak> hah
[23:48] <tsimpson> yeah, that'll do it
[23:48] <tsimpson> :p
[23:48] <zodiak> yup :)
[23:49] <zodiak> can I chain a --login after a build ?
[23:49] <zodiak> I want to check the state of things before the chroot is all cleaned up
[23:49] <zodiak> (I ask because this machine has such a SLOW disk that it's probably easier to ask than rebuild ;)
[23:53] <zodiak> sudo pbuilder build --basetgz /home/openstack/pbuilder/quantal-base.tgz *.dsc --login
[23:53] <zodiak> that didn't ~quite~ do what I thought it would do
[23:54] <tsimpson> I don't think so, but you can create hooks that drop you to a shell when the build fails
[23:54] <zodiak> hrm.. well.. I mostly want to check that the thing is setup 'sanely' .. hhrrmm
[23:55] <zodiak> thanks for the help btw :)
[23:56] <tsimpson> no problem