| jbicha | robert_ancell: metacity-common.install needs usr/share/help added | 02:43 |
|---|---|---|
| robert_ancell | jbicha, ah, cheers | 02:43 |
| thumper | hi RAOF | 03:44 |
| thumper | RAOF: around? | 03:44 |
| RAOF | thumper: Am now. | 04:56 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:33 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks! comment vas-tu? | 05:46 |
| didrocks | pitti: ça va bien! et toi? | 05:47 |
| pitti | Je vais bien, merci! finally got over my cold | 05:47 |
| didrocks | so you will be able to enjoy next week-end outside :-) | 05:47 |
| pitti | oh, we did go for some stroll and dinner, but with a foggy head it's less fun as it ought to be :) | 05:48 |
| didrocks | I can imagine, et "c'était pas l'heure de la glace" I reckon? | 05:49 |
| pitti | didrocks: non, non! la glace est une bonne médicine! | 05:53 |
| didrocks | héhé :) | 05:53 |
| pitti | didrocks: so why is it "c'était pas", and not "ce n'était pas"? | 05:55 |
| pitti | I thought "ne ... pas" was pretty much unseparable | 05:56 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, they are, you can say both | 05:57 |
| didrocks | basically the first form is more familiar | 05:57 |
| didrocks | (and a little bit incorrect grammatically speaking) | 05:57 |
| didrocks | but people would say more the 1st form I think | 05:58 |
| pitti | is that "it is no time for.." vs. "it is not the time for..."? | 05:58 |
| pitti | which are subtly different | 05:58 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's the same idea | 05:58 |
| pitti | ok | 05:59 |
| pitti | err -- "d'accord" :) | 06:01 |
| pitti | c'est un bon matin -- fixed glib on big-endian, fixed glib-networking in debian, fixed wipefs in util-linux so that finally all udisk test cases succeed | 06:02 |
| didrocks | waow \o/ | 06:02 |
| * didrocks hugs pitti | 06:02 | |
| * didrocks n'a plus que 45 emails à lire :-) | 06:02 | |
| didrocks | 13h hier et pas pu tout lire :/ | 06:02 |
| * pitti tries to deciper the n'a | 06:03 | |
| pitti | beaucoup beaucoup de leçons à venir de moi .. | 06:04 |
| didrocks | héhé, bon courage :) | 06:05 |
| didrocks | n'a plus -> *just* have | 06:05 |
| didrocks | just have 45 emails left to read | 06:05 |
| didrocks | I would say | 06:05 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'm still struggling with telling the difference between "alors que" vs. "lorsque" and "puisque" vs. "car" -- all very confusing | 06:05 |
| MCR1 | bschaefer: Still awake ? :) | 06:06 |
| didrocks | pitti: lorsque -> I would say "when", like there "I was trying to buy an ice-cream *when* it was 4PM" | 06:07 |
| didrocks | this is a timing/space logic | 06:07 |
| didrocks | for the others, it depends on the context, you can exchange them, but some are a better fit some time | 06:08 |
| didrocks | alors que -> you would use it more when there are some contradiction between the first part of the sentence and the second part | 06:08 |
| didrocks | I would use in english "whereas" | 06:09 |
| pitti | ah, and lorsque is more like "while" | 06:09 |
| didrocks | puisque -> more a logical chain, "I can do that today puisque I learnt that yesterday" | 06:09 |
| pitti | the duolingo example sentences were not that good for those | 06:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: and yeah, that app dev thread is insanely long :( | 06:16 |
| didrocks | pitti: not the worst, I "enjoyed" ubuntu-archive@ as well :) | 06:17 |
| didrocks | fortunately, the only remainining emails to read are between ubuntu-archive/devel/release | 06:17 |
| didrocks | after having finished all other emails from the PS ML and others work email ML, those 3 alones had 350 emails when I got back… | 06:18 |
| didrocks | I looked over most of them, but some thread like the app dev ones really interests me | 06:18 |
| chrisccoulson | gah, bloody strikes. i'm meant to be flying with lufthansa today | 06:25 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: oh, where are you going to? | 06:25 |
| didrocks | good morning :) | 06:25 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, warsaw (via frankfurt) | 06:25 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning :) | 06:25 |
| didrocks | a mozilla conference? | 06:26 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 06:26 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah. thunderbird summit tomorrow and then mozcamp over the weekend | 06:26 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 06:26 |
| didrocks | sweet :) | 06:26 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I'm fine, thanks! cold mostly gone | 06:26 |
| chrisccoulson | that's good :) | 06:26 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: so, good luck today! frankfurt-warsaw is quite some time with the train, I hope you'll get a plane | 06:27 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, thanks :) | 06:27 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, hang on | 06:33 |
| chrisccoulson | it's thursday today | 06:33 |
| chrisccoulson | the strikes are tomorrow | 06:34 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to go back to sleep... | 06:35 |
| RAOF | HAH! | 06:36 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: well booked then! | 06:37 |
| jibel | Sweetshark, hey | 06:39 |
| jibel | Sweetshark, LO 3.6.1~rc2 failed to build in the lab with configure: error: invalid variable name: ` --with-max-jobs' | 06:40 |
| jibel | Sweetshark, any idea what changed and caused this ? | 06:40 |
| jibel | I can remove the option for the moment, but well, built will take ages | 06:41 |
| jibel | *build | 06:41 |
| jibel | Sweetshark, nevermind, found it. there are additional options to autogen.sh and patch of the rules file to increase the concurrency level fails. | 06:57 |
| jibel | fixing | 06:57 |
| didrocks | RAOF: hey, how are you? | 07:10 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Yo! I'm... good. | 07:10 |
| didrocks | RAOF: did you see the bug I subscribed to you? | 07:10 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Indeed I did; I've replied on it. Does my reply make sense to yoU? | 07:11 |
| didrocks | ah, seems I have a filtering issue then | 07:11 |
| didrocks | one sec :) | 07:11 |
| didrocks | RAOF: do you have any idea for 2? | 07:13 |
| didrocks | as compiz is the program running the other softwares | 07:13 |
| didrocks | it will need tweaking otherwise | 07:13 |
| didrocks | so that they don't inherit | 07:13 |
| didrocks | for 1), it seems this doesn't happen for Colin, right? | 07:14 |
| didrocks | like, there is no fallback for him? | 07:14 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Colin's unity_support_test says he's using llvmpipe, but it looks like unity_support_test is checking for software rendering. | 07:14 |
| didrocks | but he has no unity, right? | 07:16 |
| didrocks | or I didn't understand? | 07:16 |
| RAOF | It's not clear to me on that bug what's happening. | 07:17 |
| didrocks | ok, let me summarize that | 07:20 |
| RAOF | Oooh, actually, I guess there's a 4th situation I didn't cover: the user has unity-grade 3D, but only as long as the desktop is <= MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE, and has a low MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE. | 07:21 |
| didrocks | can you add that to the bug report? | 07:21 |
| didrocks | RAOF: just edit the previous answer | 07:23 |
| RAOF | Edit the previous answer? You can edit launchpad comments now? | 07:23 |
| didrocks | and sorry, I took the "Hide comment" for edit | 07:23 |
| didrocks | you can just only merge reviews | 07:24 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| Daviey | no seb today? | 11:02 |
| didrocks | no, seb is on vacations starting from today for 2 weeks | 11:16 |
| didrocks | Daviey: do you need any help? | 11:16 |
| Daviey | didrocks: It would be really helpful to get input from the Desktop team about bug 1043627 and bug 1042323 | 11:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1043627 in nux "[FFe] Add XIM Support to Nux" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043627 | 11:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1042323 in compiz "[FFE] Port GTK Window Decorator to GSettings" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1042323 | 11:18 |
| Daviey | 'upstream' seem keen on it, but no input from the desktop team as yet. | 11:19 |
| didrocks | Daviey: the second one is really needed | 11:19 |
| didrocks | (I asked them to ask the release team for the FFe) | 11:19 |
| didrocks | TBH, on the first one, I'm not really keen | 11:19 |
| didrocks | it came out of blue | 11:19 |
| didrocks | is merged in trunk already, without the FFe acked | 11:19 |
| didrocks | and the previous ibus support shows it was complex | 11:20 |
| didrocks | so not sure about the xim one how well and how much impact this can have | 11:20 |
| Laney | Daviey: TBH I think I would be OK on asking them to hold off on the first one | 11:28 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| tjaalton | trying to backport the fix for bug 819304 to precise, but building gvfs on a current precise chroot fails | 11:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 819304 in gvfs "gvfsd-cdda crashed with signal 5 in _g_dbus_oom()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819304 | 11:50 |
| tjaalton | gvfsafpvolume.c: In function 'create_directory_get_filedir_parms_cb': | 11:51 |
| tjaalton | gvfsafpvolume.c:1085:3: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type | 11:51 |
| tjaalton | same with the stock gvfs from precise | 11:52 |
| xnox | I need to steal a couple of gsettings from the default install & fake/redo them again for the ubiquity-only desktop session. | 11:56 |
| xnox | can somebody help me find these two settings: | 11:56 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| xnox | - the default desktop / gtk font | 11:56 |
| xnox | (size & family) | 11:56 |
| didrocks | you mean, ubiquity needs to access to them, you are not using gtk to theme it? | 11:56 |
| xnox | - default to "Text only" instead of "Icon + Text" on the buttons. | 11:56 |
| didrocks | xnox: ^ | 11:57 |
| xnox | didrocks: I mean that when ubiquity is launched into the ubiquity-only session (via ubiquity-dm) and those two are not set. We do get Ambience gtk theme. | 11:57 |
| xnox | didrocks: but not those two items since they are not strickly in the gtk-theme but in other bits | 11:58 |
| xnox | didrocks: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jsf4RKjSfg6IKFMoShVwtlh0btKKriD5FR8jiayHfxc?feat=directlink | 11:58 |
| didrocks | hum weird | 11:58 |
| xnox | didrocks: we "fake" the indicators & desktop background already =) | 11:58 |
| didrocks | you should get the default of the distro | 11:59 |
| didrocks | xnox: is it recent? wasn't it the case before? | 11:59 |
| xnox | didrocks: this is "Install now" session, instead of "Try Ubuntu" -> "Launch Ubiquity" | 11:59 |
| xnox | didrocks: if you open "Try Ubuntu" full desktop is launched and we get all the distro settings & everything looks great. | 11:59 |
| didrocks | but previously, this wasn't the case, right? | 11:59 |
| xnox | didrocks: as in precise? | 11:59 |
| didrocks | the install now got the right font | 11:59 |
| xnox | need to check. | 11:59 |
| didrocks | yeah | 11:59 |
| didrocks | those settings are not session dependant | 12:00 |
| xnox | some wonderful gsettings / dconf / gconf transitions that missed ubiquity-dm? =) | 12:00 |
| didrocks | so I'm suprised and would prefer we fix if any issue araised | 12:00 |
| didrocks | rather than workaround it :) | 12:00 |
| didrocks | no, those are really system-centric :/ | 12:00 |
| didrocks | can you check on precise first? | 12:00 |
| tjaalton | found a patch in gvfs 1.12.3 that should fix the build error | 12:01 |
| xnox | didrocks: you should see how much stuff we already do in ubiquity-dm to fake desktop-like experience on Gtk/Unity/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc.... | 12:01 |
| didrocks | xnox: I know a little bit of this code :) | 12:02 |
| didrocks | xnox: but you are using gtk here | 12:02 |
| didrocks | and gtk should just get access to the right settings | 12:02 |
| didrocks | also, there has been no change for 3 cycles on that, gsettings was already used | 12:02 |
| xnox | I see ubuntu font on Precise CD | 12:03 |
| xnox | taking screenshots.... | 12:03 |
| didrocks | ok, so something changed, should be the same for the wallpaper | 12:03 |
| didrocks | can you start a software inheriting from your session environment? | 12:03 |
| didrocks | like starting dconf-editor from your environment? | 12:04 |
| xnox | hmmm..... not really. I have access to tty1 | 12:04 |
| didrocks | yeah, but you won't be in the same env :/ | 12:04 |
| didrocks | a python shell? ;) | 12:04 |
| xnox | didrocks: let me fiddle with it to make ubiquity launch a terminal | 12:05 |
| didrocks | xnox: that would be awesome | 12:05 |
| xnox | didrocks: or I can drop snippets of python into ubiquity to communicate with me =) | 12:06 |
| didrocks | xnox: I'm away for 40 minutes (really need this late lunch break), will be back then :) | 12:06 |
| didrocks | a terminal will be easier | 12:06 |
| didrocks | we will be able to get the guts of it :) | 12:06 |
| tjaalton | uploaded gvfs to precise-proposed.. | 12:13 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| xnox | didrocks: can't reliably reproduce. On some boots the fonts are correct, on some they are not. | 12:51 |
| didrocks | xnox: so, seems to be something outside of the env variable | 12:51 |
| didrocks | xnox: I think you can remove your hack for the wallpaper as well :) | 12:51 |
| didrocks | (the indicators is a different story) | 12:51 |
| xnox | and having some troubles launching terminal in the right way. | 12:52 |
| didrocks | but all the gsettings/dconf part is under the same environment, so gtk should use the right settings | 12:52 |
| xnox | without remastering the cd. | 12:52 |
| xnox | didrocks: well they are not indicators at all =) just a picutre button with a menu as far as I can see =) | 12:52 |
| didrocks | let's see when desrt is around to find if there is an easy case he can think of when gtk doesn't use the right gsettings values | 12:52 |
| didrocks | xnox: yeah, I know about that one unfortunately… | 12:53 |
| didrocks | but for the gtk/settings part, they all should read the right values without any issue | 12:53 |
| jibel | xnox, isn't it because g-s-d dies and is not restarted automatically. | 12:59 |
| jibel | when the fonts are incorrect I see a defunct g-s-d process | 13:00 |
| xnox | aha.... maybe | 13:09 |
| xnox | who/what respawns g-s-d? should it be upstart in ubiquity-dm? | 13:10 |
| xnox | maybe g-s-d should be fixed sush that it does not die | 13:10 |
| didrocks | jibel: shouldn't the installer theme be changed as well in that case? | 13:12 |
| didrocks | as it's a pygi app | 13:12 |
| Daviey | Laney: Does the first one have regression potential ? | 13:12 |
| Daviey | Laney: hmm, the diff is larger than i might have expected. | 13:14 |
| Laney | I don't know about regressions, but the first landing probably won't be the end of the story | 13:14 |
| didrocks | Daviey: what diff are you looking at? (just to be sure you are looking at the right one) | 13:14 |
| Daviey | didrocks: the large one :) | 13:15 |
| Daviey | didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/nux/xim-tests/+merge/120726 | 13:15 |
| didrocks | Daviey: good, it wasn't linked yesterday, (there was only the tests) :-) | 13:16 |
| didrocks | Daviey: if this can help your decision, they have some primitive tests in tests/gtest-nux-inputmethodibus.cpp for the ibus part, which should be the likely impacted part of this code | 13:18 |
| didrocks | so ibus support should be good | 13:19 |
| pitti | didrocks: do you know what's up with seb? | 13:27 |
| Laney | holidays | 13:27 |
| pitti | not on the calendar | 13:27 |
| pitti | ok, just wondered if he's alright | 13:27 |
| Laney | strange, but he did email | 13:27 |
| pitti | ah, good; thanks! | 13:28 |
| Laney | np | 13:28 |
| didrocks | pitti: he's on holidays, right :) | 13:28 |
| didrocks | warned quite late yesterday :) | 13:29 |
| pitti | he probably mailed the desktop team | 13:29 |
| Laney | right | 13:29 |
| jbicha | mterry: does bug 1039792 need MIR review? | 13:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1039792 in ubuntu-default-settings "[needs-packaging] ubuntu-default-settings" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039792 | 13:32 |
| mterry | jbicha, for forms sake, probably a quick one. I can look it over and comment in bug | 13:34 |
| didrocks | jbicha: just curious, how did you handle the conflicts of the .override files? | 13:34 |
| jbicha | didrocks: they don't actually conflict, whatever is sorted higher takes precedence I believe | 13:35 |
| didrocks | ah ok, you use other filenames and they are just duplicated for now? | 13:36 |
| jbicha | and it's nice that dconf just ignores missing schemas without crashing so we could have Epiphany overrides for instance | 13:36 |
| jbicha | didrocks: yes | 13:36 |
| didrocks | gotcha :) | 13:36 |
| didrocks | so your next plan is, I guess to remove the other ones one after anoter :) | 13:37 |
| didrocks | another* | 13:37 |
| didrocks | don't tell desrt that there are files not following his .override prefered file mangling ;) | 13:37 |
| jbicha | I thought he was ok with it | 13:39 |
| didrocks | well, as long as it's for moving away the customization, I think he will be :) | 13:40 |
| mterry | jbicha, will this introduce problems for derivatives that were relying on some of these settings, and now they won't be there? | 13:41 |
| jbicha | mterry: it could so I'll email the release list to give the flavors a heads up | 13:43 |
| jbicha | edubuntu depends on ubuntu-desktop so they'll be fine | 13:43 |
| mterry | jbicha, fine from MIR perspective. Super simple package :) | 13:43 |
| jbicha | it looks like ubuntu studio uses totem but I haven't found other ones yet | 13:44 |
| didrocks | is the totem override we have important for them? | 13:44 |
| jbicha | it just sets default plugins so they should check to see what plugins they want | 13:45 |
| didrocks | interesting :) | 13:46 |
| jbicha | *default enabled plugins | 13:46 |
| jbicha | I've got about 4 pages worth of deprecated schema warnings on gnomebuntu: gnumeric & shotwell are the worst offenders | 14:01 |
| dobey | doh; rebooted and accountsservice decided to switch my language back to something else from what it was set to. how rude. | 14:02 |
| jbicha | maybe the dropping of the old overrides should need a ffe since it at least affects Ubuntu Studio | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | Ubuntu Studio!!?!?!?!? jbicha: !? | 14:07 |
| didrocks | mterry: is bug #1040221 landed or after beta1? | 14:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1040221 in lightdm-remote-session-freerdp "FFe request: Provide remote login options" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040221 | 14:09 |
| Laney | I suppose other flavours might want to seed the ubuntu-default-settings too for now | 14:09 |
| Laney | anything else will probably require some coordination | 14:10 |
| mterry | didrocks, after beta1 | 14:10 |
| didrocks | mterry: thanks | 14:11 |
| didrocks | Laney: great email :) | 14:19 |
| didrocks | oupss | 14:19 |
| didrocks | jbicha: ^ | 14:19 |
| Laney | :P | 14:19 |
| Laney | my last email was about archive administrators, probably not so exciting | 14:19 |
| didrocks | Laney: I'm sure you wrote at least a great email in the past :) | 14:19 |
| Laney | I think it was awesome though | 14:20 |
| didrocks | heh :) | 14:20 |
| didrocks | I read it ;) | 14:20 |
| didrocks | jbicha: you didn't put every overriden configuration on purpose? | 14:20 |
| didrocks | jbicha: I'm thinking about the font | 14:20 |
| jbicha | didrocks: several settings are in ubuntu-artwork | 14:23 |
| didrocks | yeah, you want to move them as well, right? | 14:23 |
| didrocks | or just keep them here | 14:23 |
| didrocks | and so we have two places | 14:23 |
| jbicha | I was thinking about moving the ubuntu-artwork binary to ubuntu-default-settings and that way there would be one file for the settings | 14:24 |
| didrocks | would make sense IMHO | 14:24 |
| jbicha | but I wasn't sure if we should do that for quantal | 14:24 |
| didrocks | yeah, probably a little bit late | 14:25 |
| didrocks | better to do that early in the cycle | 14:25 |
| jbicha | ubuntu-artwork doesn't do gsettings overrides the right way :( | 14:25 |
| didrocks | jbicha: or really? I never looked at it TBH | 14:26 |
| jbicha | instead of being a 10_ override it's a ubuntu-artwork override which makes it difficult for a derivative to override it | 14:26 |
| didrocks | oh right, it's not numbered | 14:27 |
| didrocks | well, we can rename it if needed | 14:27 |
| didrocks | jbicha: I'm doing it, one sec | 14:27 |
| jbicha | if you rename it to .gsettings-override it should be ok | 14:28 |
| didrocks | jbicha: ah, there is a dh_gsettings doing it for us? | 14:28 |
| didrocks | (or something similar) | 14:29 |
| jbicha | dh_installgsettings | 14:29 |
| didrocks | ok, not sure it's called then | 14:29 |
| didrocks | let me check | 14:29 |
| didrocks | I guess it's not in debhelper.mk but gnome.mk | 14:29 |
| jbicha | it should be automatic if it's named correctly :) | 14:29 |
| didrocks | well, you still need it to be called :) | 14:30 |
| jbicha | I believe it just works, debhelper calls it | 14:31 |
| didrocks | oh right /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk seems to call it :) | 14:32 |
| didrocks | usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_ubuntu-artwork.gschema.override | 14:33 |
| didrocks | looking good :) | 14:33 |
| jbicha | thanks, now when someone installs ubuntu-gnome-default-settings they should get Adwaita instead of Ambiance | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | jbicha: Good job:) | 14:34 |
| jbicha | oh, I probably should have it recommend gnome-themes-standard then | 14:34 |
| didrocks | yep :) | 14:35 |
| didrocks | hum weird, dconf-editor wants now to default to the non overriden values | 14:35 |
| didrocks | even if the override is installed and the gschemas.compiled is fresh | 14:35 |
| didrocks | let me have a look | 14:35 |
| jbicha | dconf-editor is broken https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=654812 | 14:36 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 654812 in editor "editor doesn't show overridden keys" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 14:36 |
| didrocks | ok, let's revert with gsettings then :) | 14:36 |
| didrocks | working then :) | 14:36 |
| didrocks | jbicha: uploaded | 14:39 |
| davmor2 | Hey guys I just hit this, could some one who knows libwebkitgtk confirm this is the rightplace please (I'm assuming it is) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit/+bug/1046874 | 14:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1046874 in webkit "There is an issue highlighting dropbox selectors in USC and Epiphany" [Undecided,New] | 14:50 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 15:40 |
| didrocks | have a good night pitti! | 15:40 |
| mterry | tedg, kid all better? | 17:17 |
| tedg | mterry, Yup, all good. | 17:18 |
| tedg | mterry, Back to causing trouble :-) | 17:18 |
| mterry | mixed blessing | 17:18 |
| mterry | :) | 17:18 |
| tedg | Heh, yeah. | 17:18 |
| * mterry logs off and on a few times | 17:18 | |
| xclaesse | is it possible to make the launcher menu (the bar on the left in unity) auto hide ? | 17:22 |
| xclaesse | I remember in previous versions of unity it was hiding when a window comes next to it | 17:22 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: yeah, you have the autohide mode now or never hide it | 17:23 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: no more intellihide (only when a window comes next to it) | 17:23 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: in gnome-control-center -> display | 17:23 |
| didrocks | tab behavior | 17:23 |
| didrocks | you have a switch | 17:23 |
| xclaesse | didrocks, ok | 17:25 |
| xclaesse | didrocks, too bad they removed the smart mode, I liked it... | 17:25 |
| didrocks | xclaesse: I liked it too, but it confused the users | 17:25 |
| mterry | Does anyone know how to make a bug report out of an error.ubuntu.com oops? (So that I can get a retrace, if there's another way of doing that, I'd also like to know) | 18:04 |
| mterry | pitti, ^ | 18:04 |
| s9iper1 | mterry ?? | 18:09 |
| mterry | s9iper1, links to more information on errors.ubuntu.com provides stacktraces and such, but they aren't retraced with symbols | 18:10 |
| s9iper1 | mterry.. dont understand what you are talking about ? | 18:12 |
| mterry | Well, then I doubt you know the answer I'm looking for. ;) | 18:14 |
| s9iper1 | :D | 18:22 |
| cyphermox | mterry: I don't know, one I tried to debug I just managed to reproduce anyway, and I think already had a few reports on LP | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | it was a pretty obvious python trace though | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | errors.ubuntu.com looks pretty slow to me today :) | 19:34 |
| mterry | cyphermox, yeah | 19:34 |
| mterry | cyphermox, for the non-python ones, though. Not sure how to make progress on them | 19:35 |
| cyphermox | I was curious to see if there was something I could tackle there, but it's just erroring out for me | 19:35 |
| cyphermox | mterry: you just get question marks I guess? | 19:35 |
| dobey | cyphermox: https://errors.ubuntu.com/?launchpad=false | 19:35 |
| cyphermox | wooo! | 19:36 |
| dobey | the launchpad poking it does is what kills it :) | 19:36 |
| mterry | cyphermox, yeah | 19:36 |
| dobey | mterry: which one is just giving you question marks? | 19:39 |
| mterry | dobey, any of the non-python ones | 19:39 |
| cyphermox | mterry: yeah, I see how one like the nautilus report is pretty much worthless as is | 19:40 |
| dobey | ah ok | 19:40 |
| dobey | the failed: /blah/blah stuff is confusing | 19:40 |
| dobey | mterry: i think that is from the retracer failing maybe? | 19:41 |
| mterry | dobey, seems like it's on all of them though | 19:41 |
| dobey | mterry: well, maybe there is a larger issue. and it's not just non-python stuff. the only ones i see that don't have a bug linked, are the ones that have "failed: …" in the "Function" column | 19:42 |
| cyphermox | mterry: are there reports for the package you're looking at with SIGABRT in raise() ? | 19:42 |
| cyphermox | (or just "blah SIGSEGV" | 19:42 |
| dobey | oh i guess even some of the python ones are actually crashing in C code somewhere | 19:43 |
| mterry | cyphermox, didn't dig that far | 19:44 |
| cyphermox | there might be some bugs on LP that failed to get retraced; or that are just hanging around and could give you another hint towards the actual bug | 19:45 |
| dobey | mterry: ping james_w about it maybe? | 19:57 |
| mterry | james_w, heyo! How do I extract a trace-with-symbols from errors.ubuntu.com? | 19:57 |
| dobey | err, or ev rather | 19:58 |
| james_w | that I don't know, sorry | 19:58 |
| dobey | sorry; got confused about who works on that stuff :) | 19:58 |
| mterry | james_w, OK, thanks. I'll poke ev next | 19:58 |
| mterry | tedg, ping. How about a new release of libpam-freerdp? With that in quantal, all the remote-login MIRs will be done | 19:59 |
| tedg | mterry, https://code.launchpad.net/~freerdp-remote-team/libpam-freerdp/ubuntu/+merge/122947 | 20:07 |
| tedg | mterry, Sorry, I forgot to put you as the reviewer | 20:07 |
| * jbicha finds is suspicious that empathy depends on Qt ;) | 20:31 | |
| xnox | jbicha: oh the irony =) | 20:39 |
| xnox | =))))))) | 20:39 |
| jbicha | I mean it doesn't look bad from what I can see, I just doubt anyone else will be interested in using ubuntu-online-accounts unless it gets rewritten without Qt | 20:45 |
| jbicha | it adds dozens of MB to the ubuntu-gnome image, libqtwebkit4 especially | 20:47 |
| Darxus | I'm trying to update an ubuntu gtk package, which I did recently successfuly. I'm doing this in a chroot on ubuntu quantal. I can't even tell where it's failing. Any hints? Full build output: http://www.chaosreigns.com/tmp/gtk.build.fail.txt | 23:22 |
| RAOF | Darxus: Looks like some of the build-time checks have failed? | 23:37 |
| RAOF | At least in part because they're looking for dbus services that aren't there. | 23:38 |
| Darxus | So it's failing because I'm running in a chroot without dbus? I object. | 23:40 |
| xnox | Darxus: there are ways around that. | 23:41 |
| Darxus | xnox: Oh? | 23:42 |
| xnox | Darxus: see similar packages. something like update manager (?!), or stuff that reverse depends on dbus. | 23:43 |
| xnox | there are a couple of packages in the archive with working dbus test-suites. | 23:43 |
| xnox | if you want to fix it. | 23:43 |
| xnox | Or simply ignore the results from the tests | 23:43 |
| xnox | Darxus: dbus stuff is probably better tested in dep8 targets anyway | 23:44 |
| Darxus | Thanks. | 23:49 |
| RAOF | Darxus: Do those tests pass on the buildds? If so, you could just see what the source package is doing. | 23:58 |
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