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ubottuIn #ubuntu, phonebook_ said: ubottu, ..bot.... im saving all this to a text file for ref. all help is appreciated02:34
Jordan_UThe syntax of ubottu has made me realize how often the word "is" is used in normal English sentences.02:39
elkywe tend to define things a lot02:41
Jordan_UThat is silly.02:50
Jordan_UShould I/we not support Logos01 in #ubuntu since they're dual booting with hackintosh'd OSX?02:57
elkydual booting, or fusion?03:11
Jordan_UDual booting. Chameleon is a bootloader for hackintoshes.03:11
elkyand depending on that, support them, or support them up until the point you can't be absolutely sure that it's not the fusion03:12
Jordan_U(Non Apple PCs illegally running OSX)03:12
elkyit's not illegal. it's a broken contract. we're not police.03:12
Jordan_UFair enough.03:13
elkyas always, support so long as you are comfortable.03:14
tonyyarussoIt's illegal in the US, but then we're weird.03:22
elkyas in you'd go to jail for running osx on a non-mac?03:32
elkyor be fined?03:32
elkyor be given some other court-prescribed punishment?03:32
ubottuIn #ubuntu, smoochict said: ubottu how much is ubuntu?03:42
smoochictHi, can someone explain what this means? "ubottu: Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail"03:44
tsimpsonsmoochict: when you say "<something> is <something>" to ubottu, like "how much is ubuntu?", it understands that as a request to edit a factoid. in this case it interpreted "how much" as the factoid, and "ubuntu" as the response03:47
tsimpsonwhen someone does that who doesn't have the capability to edit factoids, then it's forwarded here for review: [04:42:59] <ubottu> In #ubuntu, smoochict said: ubottu how much is ubuntu?03:47
smoochictoh ok, thanks for the explanation03:48
tsimpsonwe're pretty good a determining what is a genuine edit request and what was an accident, so don't worry too much about it03:48
smoochictalright03:48
IdleOneuh, how much is Ubuntu?03:58
elkyNormally $60,  but for you, just $59.9904:01
IdleOneI'll take 2 please04:03
tonyyarussoelky: Could be, yeah.  It'd be copyright infringement.04:41
tonyyarussoelky: Actually, looks like it's also covered by the DMCA, so extra special fun time...04:43
elkyso you can be sued, but not prosecuted?04:44
tonyyarussoNo, it's law...04:45
elkyyeah your country is pretty stupid04:46
tonyyarussoyup04:47
elkyyou had a choice and everything, and you chose that one?04:54
tonyyarussoelky: what?05:05
tonyyarussoI was born like 10 miles from here.05:07
IdleOneShe is questioning the wisdom in choosing to live in a country you agree is stupid. I would be insulted if I was you.05:08
* IdleOne steps away from the gas can05:08
tonyyarussoNot really much of a choice - I still don't qualify for Canadian immigration.05:10
IdleOneI feel I should point out that I was intentionally stirring the pot :-)05:10
IdleOneAnyway, immigration is way more complicated than most people know.05:11
tonyyarussoyup05:11
elkytonyyarusso, you did live in canada for a while, no?05:14
IdleOnehe was on a student visa iirc05:14
tonyyarussoelky: Yeah, on a student visa.05:14
elkyah05:15
tonyyarussoWell, "study permit" technically, but same concept.05:15
IdleOnewhich btw are simple as pie to get05:15
tonyyarussoI needed a bunch of documents, but it wasn't as bad as it might have been - actually did it right at the border crossing, took under an hour.05:16
IdleOneyup, same here when I went to get it for my step son05:16
bazhangthe bios partition?05:27
Jordan_UBIOS Boot Partition.05:27
bazhang /swap /bios ?05:27
bazhangnever heard that one before05:28
Jordan_Uhttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#BIOS-installation05:28
Jordan_UNeeded for reliable bootloader installation on BIOS systems using a GPT label (partition table).05:29
bazhangok05:30
tsimpsonbazhang: qtractor != qtcreator ;)05:31
bazhang<SecretFire> bazhang : I am trying to compile Qtractor to do music   tsimpson he asked for qtractor05:31
tsimpsonor maybe I just need coffee05:31
tsimpsonyes.. I need coffee :)05:32
bazhanghah05:32
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ubottugordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu ()09:46
Priceyin /msg09:50
Priceyand bored10:07
ikoniaha ha ha10:08
ikoniaI admire an honest assesment10:08
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Priceyikonia: I was referring to him, he /quit :10:52
PriceyP10:52
ikoniaooh10:52
ikoniaI liked it better when I thought you where bored10:52
ubottuIn #ubuntu, gcmalloc said: ubottu, so my question is where can I find the reason why ?15:20
bazhangthe bot lists qgis as being found in qgis. weird15:21
Picihm?16:11
bazhang the !find qgis returns qgis as one item16:11
jussifind qgis16:12
Picilooks like its a virtual package.16:12
jussi!find qgis16:12
bazhangyep with a !16:12
ubottuFile qgis found in app-install-data, grass, libqgis-dev, libqgis1.4.0, python-qgis, python-qgis-common, qgis, qgis-common, qgis-plugin-grass, qgis-plugin-grass-common (and 1 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=qgis&mode=&suite=precise&arch=any16:12
PiciN: Can't select versions from package 'qgis' as it is purely virtual16:12
PiciSounds like a bug.16:13
Picimaybe.16:13
jussi!info qgis16:13
ubottuPackage qgis does not exist in precise16:13
bazhangqgis and -common are both said not to exist in the !info16:13
gcmallochi I tried to have some information about why the package qgis wasn't in pangolin. Can someone give me a pointer ?16:33
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tsimpsongcmalloc: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qgis/+publishinghistory17:00
Pici!ping17:25
ubottuanother contentless ping... sigh...17:25
Piciodd17:25
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ubottuIn #ubuntu, hlpme said: !wilee: this is a new reinstall. I reinstalled it because it kept crashing. I'm loathe to reinstall it for the n'th time. I'm not sure what to do; I'd always thought linux was stable but I'm having second thoughts.19:17
guntberthi, yesterday I submitted a bunch of edit requests to replace 10.04 references with the correct 12.04 references - Pici updated several but the rest is still open it seems20:06
guntbertin ubotu's brain20:06
IdleOneguntbert: can you list which need to be changed, just give me the factoid name20:08
IdleOneot list one at a time and we can change them now20:08
IdleOneor*20:08
guntbertIdleOne: if look into the backlog from yesterday you will find them -I hope in already useable syntax -  a few were not quite trivial20:09
guntbert*if you :)20:09
IdleOne!time =~ s/10/12/20:10
ubottuI'll remember that IdleOne20:10
IdleOne!mailserver =~ s/10/12/20:10
IdleOne!sshd =~ s/10/12/20:10
IdleOne!php =~ s/10/12/20:10
IdleOneany more20:10
IdleOne!mailserver20:11
ubottuUbuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html20:11
guntbert!samba20:12
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.20:12
IdleOne!sshd20:12
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)20:12
IdleOnethink we got them all. let me know if any got missed20:12
guntbert!codecs20:13
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:13
guntbert !codecs ~=#10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html#20:13
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, guntbert said:  !codecs ~=#10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html#20:13
guntbert!partitioning ~=#10.04/switching/C/installing-partitioning.html#12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html#20:15
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, guntbert said: !partitioning ~=#10.04/switching/C/installing-partitioning.html#12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html#20:15
IdleOnelol, now I'm confused20:16
guntbert!no automate is Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at                                            https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning20:16
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, guntbert said: !no automate is Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at                                            https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning20:16
guntbertIdleOne: there were a few where the rest of the url changed too20:17
IdleOne!no automate is <reply> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning20:17
ubottuI'll remember that IdleOne20:17
guntbertI am not sure if she understand the regex syntax with replacing the / as delimiters by # when a / appears in the string20:18
IdleOneI have no idea to be honest20:18
guntberthow about you just try it? :)20:19
IdleOne!no codecs is <reply> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:19
ubottuI'll remember that IdleOne20:19
guntbertanyway - I'll leave it to the great team :-) have a nice time20:25
IdleOne!no partitioning is <reply>  For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap20:26
ubottuI'll remember that IdleOne20:26
IdleOne!no codecs is <reply>  For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html#  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:28
ubottuI'll remember that IdleOne20:28
IdleOneThat should fix it20:28
tsimpsonwhy are we using static numbers when we have the $cur*Num variables?21:33
IdleOneGood question21:36
Unit193I'd guess because that's not always the only part that changes (see !automate)21:37
tsimpsonhopefully that doesn't change every release21:40

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