[02:39] <Jordan_U> The syntax of ubottu has made me realize how often the word "is" is used in normal English sentences.
[02:41] <elky> we tend to define things a lot
[02:50] <Jordan_U> That is silly.
[02:57] <Jordan_U> Should I/we not support Logos01 in #ubuntu since they're dual booting with hackintosh'd OSX?
[03:11] <elky> dual booting, or fusion?
[03:11] <Jordan_U> Dual booting. Chameleon is a bootloader for hackintoshes.
[03:12] <elky> and depending on that, support them, or support them up until the point you can't be absolutely sure that it's not the fusion
[03:12] <Jordan_U> (Non Apple PCs illegally running OSX)
[03:12] <elky> it's not illegal. it's a broken contract. we're not police.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> Fair enough.
[03:14] <elky> as always, support so long as you are comfortable.
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> It's illegal in the US, but then we're weird.
[03:32] <elky> as in you'd go to jail for running osx on a non-mac?
[03:32] <elky> or be fined?
[03:32] <elky> or be given some other court-prescribed punishment?
[03:44] <smoochict> Hi, can someone explain what this means? "ubottu: Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail"
[03:47] <tsimpson> smoochict: when you say "<something> is <something>" to ubottu, like "how much is ubuntu?", it understands that as a request to edit a factoid. in this case it interpreted "how much" as the factoid, and "ubuntu" as the response
[03:47] <tsimpson> when someone does that who doesn't have the capability to edit factoids, then it's forwarded here for review: [04:42:59] <ubottu> In #ubuntu, smoochict said: ubottu how much is ubuntu?
[03:48] <smoochict> oh ok, thanks for the explanation
[03:48] <tsimpson> we're pretty good a determining what is a genuine edit request and what was an accident, so don't worry too much about it
[03:48] <smoochict> alright
[03:58] <IdleOne> uh, how much is Ubuntu?
[04:01] <elky> Normally $60,  but for you, just $59.99
[04:03] <IdleOne> I'll take 2 please
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> elky: Could be, yeah.  It'd be copyright infringement.
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> elky: Actually, looks like it's also covered by the DMCA, so extra special fun time...
[04:44] <elky> so you can be sued, but not prosecuted?
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> No, it's law...
[04:46] <elky> yeah your country is pretty stupid
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> yup
[04:54] <elky> you had a choice and everything, and you chose that one?
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> elky: what?
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> I was born like 10 miles from here.
[05:08] <IdleOne> She is questioning the wisdom in choosing to live in a country you agree is stupid. I would be insulted if I was you.
[05:08]  * IdleOne steps away from the gas can
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> Not really much of a choice - I still don't qualify for Canadian immigration.
[05:10] <IdleOne> I feel I should point out that I was intentionally stirring the pot :-)
[05:11] <IdleOne> Anyway, immigration is way more complicated than most people know.
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> yup
[05:14] <elky> tonyyarusso, you did live in canada for a while, no?
[05:14] <IdleOne> he was on a student visa iirc
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> elky: Yeah, on a student visa.
[05:15] <elky> ah
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> Well, "study permit" technically, but same concept.
[05:15] <IdleOne> which btw are simple as pie to get
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> I needed a bunch of documents, but it wasn't as bad as it might have been - actually did it right at the border crossing, took under an hour.
[05:16] <IdleOne> yup, same here when I went to get it for my step son
[05:27] <bazhang> the bios partition?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> BIOS Boot Partition.
[05:27] <bazhang>  /swap /bios ?
[05:28] <bazhang> never heard that one before
[05:28] <Jordan_U> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#BIOS-installation
[05:29] <Jordan_U> Needed for reliable bootloader installation on BIOS systems using a GPT label (partition table).
[05:30] <bazhang> ok
[05:31] <tsimpson> bazhang: qtractor != qtcreator ;)
 bazhang : I am trying to compile Qtractor to do music   tsimpson he asked for qtractor
[05:31] <tsimpson> or maybe I just need coffee
[05:32] <tsimpson> yes.. I need coffee :)
[05:32] <bazhang> hah
[09:50] <Pricey> in /msg
[10:07] <Pricey> and bored
[10:08] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[10:08] <ikonia> I admire an honest assesment
[10:52] <Pricey> ikonia: I was referring to him, he /quit :
[10:52] <Pricey> P
[10:52] <ikonia> ooh
[10:52] <ikonia> I liked it better when I thought you where bored
[15:21] <bazhang> the bot lists qgis as being found in qgis. weird
[16:11] <Pici> hm?
[16:11] <bazhang>  the !find qgis returns qgis as one item
[16:12] <jussi> find qgis
[16:12] <Pici> looks like its a virtual package.
[16:12] <jussi> !find qgis
[16:12] <bazhang> yep with a !
[16:12] <Pici> N: Can't select versions from package 'qgis' as it is purely virtual
[16:13] <Pici> Sounds like a bug.
[16:13] <Pici> maybe.
[16:13] <jussi> !info qgis
[16:13] <bazhang> qgis and -common are both said not to exist in the !info
[16:33] <gcmalloc> hi I tried to have some information about why the package qgis wasn't in pangolin. Can someone give me a pointer ?
[17:00] <tsimpson> gcmalloc: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qgis/+publishinghistory
[17:25] <Pici> !ping
[17:25] <Pici> odd
[20:06] <guntbert> hi, yesterday I submitted a bunch of edit requests to replace 10.04 references with the correct 12.04 references - Pici updated several but the rest is still open it seems
[20:06] <guntbert> in ubotu's brain
[20:08] <IdleOne> guntbert: can you list which need to be changed, just give me the factoid name
[20:08] <IdleOne> ot list one at a time and we can change them now
[20:08] <IdleOne> or*
[20:09] <guntbert> IdleOne: if look into the backlog from yesterday you will find them -I hope in already useable syntax -  a few were not quite trivial
[20:09] <guntbert> *if you :)
[20:10] <IdleOne> !time =~ s/10/12/
[20:10] <IdleOne> !mailserver =~ s/10/12/
[20:10] <IdleOne> !sshd =~ s/10/12/
[20:10] <IdleOne> !php =~ s/10/12/
[20:10] <IdleOne> any more
[20:11] <IdleOne> !mailserver
[20:12] <guntbert> !samba
[20:12] <IdleOne> !sshd
[20:12] <IdleOne> think we got them all. let me know if any got missed
[20:13] <guntbert> !codecs
[20:13] <guntbert>  !codecs ~=#10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html#
[20:15] <guntbert> !partitioning ~=#10.04/switching/C/installing-partitioning.html#12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html#
[20:16] <IdleOne> lol, now I'm confused
[20:16] <guntbert> !no automate is Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at                                            https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning
[20:17] <guntbert> IdleOne: there were a few where the rest of the url changed too
[20:17] <IdleOne> !no automate is <reply> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning
[20:18] <guntbert> I am not sure if she understand the regex syntax with replacing the / as delimiters by # when a / appears in the string
[20:18] <IdleOne> I have no idea to be honest
[20:19] <guntbert> how about you just try it? :)
[20:19] <IdleOne> !no codecs is <reply> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:25] <guntbert> anyway - I'll leave it to the great team :-) have a nice time
[20:26] <IdleOne> !no partitioning is <reply>  For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap
[20:28] <IdleOne> !no codecs is <reply>  For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html#  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:28] <IdleOne> That should fix it
[21:33] <tsimpson> why are we using static numbers when we have the $cur*Num variables?
[21:36] <IdleOne> Good question
[21:37] <Unit193> I'd guess because that's not always the only part that changes (see !automate)
[21:40] <tsimpson> hopefully that doesn't change every release