[00:25] <rick_h_> snap-l: dude!!!!
[00:26] <Painbank> is it me or is it that Dojo is just a pain in the ass to use/extend?
[00:27] <rick_h_> heh, I've not used dojo in many a year...but that's my experience
[00:27] <rick_h_> YUI FTW!
[00:28] <Painbank> ya, I see your using it with bookie
[00:31] <rick_h_> because it's awesome
[00:44] <rick_h_> shakes808: python -m SimpleHTTPServer
[10:39] <snap-l> Good morning
[11:20] <rick_h_> morning
[12:04] <brousch> morn
[12:16] <rick_h_> ugh, sleepy. why can't we go back to bed?
[12:17] <brousch> Because it's morning!
[12:18] <brousch> Do I have to sing the good morning song to you, sleepyhead?
[12:18] <rick_h_> double ugh
[12:18] <rick_h_> snap-l: I see your old alcatel pals in the news today
[12:57] <snap-l> rick_h_: Which, the patent portfolio for 4G?
[12:57] <rick_h_> snap-l: the open source api thing
[12:58] <rick_h_> on techcrunch this morning
[12:58] <snap-l> orly?
[12:59] <rick_h_> http://goo.gl/HpfxF
[13:21] <jrwren> i think i was still in bed when rick_h_ asked that. or maybe i was just getting out of bed.
[13:21] <jrwren> :p
[13:21] <rick_h_> jrwren: huh?
[13:21] <rick_h_> oh, about going back to bed heh
[13:21] <jrwren> :)
[13:22] <jrwren> i think I bought LU at 50 in 1999, alcatel-lucent can diaf
[13:45] <rick_h_> ouch
[15:16] <snap-l> jrwren: Yeah, it's not the most performant stock out there.
[15:16] <snap-l> They're still trying to figure out the merger
[15:44] <rick_h_> laptops with a number pad? wtf https://plus.google.com/u/0/104919222657565747428/posts/VSRYxb2ohGD
[15:45] <snap-l> rick_h_: JoDee's last two laptops had numeric keypads.
[15:45] <brousch> Some people love a full keyboard
[15:46] <brousch> Our CPA brings a USB number pad with him when he is here
[15:46] <snap-l> SHe crunches numbers.
[15:46] <rick_h_> I don't even want it on my desktop...much less a freaking mass produced laptop
[15:46] <rick_h_> yea, that's why they make usb number pads, for CPA's
[15:46] <rick_h_> not build into the thing
[15:55] <snap-l> Some folks want 'em
[15:56] <snap-l> Just like some folks want keyboards that sound like a firing range. ;)
[15:56] <rick_h_> what? can't hear over. Headphones on today :P
[16:12] <jrwren> i used to punch a 10key reasonably well, but i've not done so i na long time.
[16:19] <rick_h_> snap-l: first cards against humanity game scheduled woo! Thanks
[16:22] <snap-l> Hey, no problem. :)
[17:26] <rick_h_> http://bukk.it/acid.jpg <3
[17:35] <rick_h_> http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/09/06/shit-apple-fanatics-say/ I should have done this video
[17:36] <UnFixed> gestures.
[17:51] <jcastro> smoser: mramm is stopping in plymouth so we can review each other's slides for stuff we're working on
[17:51] <jcastro> if you feel the need to collaborate
[17:53] <smoser> jcastro, time / place?
[17:53] <jcastro> this afternoon, he's leaving AA in about 15 I think
[17:53] <jcastro> place, whatever?
[17:53] <jcastro> is there a cool place around here with wifis?
[17:55] <snap-l> Libery St Brewing. ;)
[17:58] <rick_h_> everyone ready for kindle day?
[17:58] <rick_h_> dare I hope for a DX upgrade?
[17:58] <snap-l> KinDay.
[18:00] <rick_h_> ooh, think I'll get this paperwhite one for the wife. Boo that it won't ship until after her birthday
[18:00] <brousch> They still make those non-color things?
[18:01] <rick_h_> she can ditch that annoying light on hers
[18:01] <snap-l> SIte isn't updated
[18:01] <rick_h_> yea, hitting refresh
[18:01] <rick_h_> guess they'll do it after they finish the presentation
[18:02] <snap-l> You'd think they'd pull an Apple and put some "Coming Soon" nonsense there.
[18:05] <brousch> Ug, this is awful https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nj628ufciSc
[18:22] <brousch> Looks like a good talk by chrismcdonough about how awesome Django is http://plope.com/static/presentations/djangocon2012/
[18:27] <rick_h_> OMG OMG OMG Whispersync for voice is introduced
[18:27] <brousch> voice?
[18:28] <rick_h_> yea, finally sync for audible books it looks like
[18:28] <rick_h_> if I listen on my phone, tablet, etc
[18:29] <brousch> ah
[19:09] <snap-l> Oh, nice
[19:22] <rick_h_> another AMZ announcement, no more DX love. e-ink is 6" or bust
[19:26] <rick_h_> ooh, even cooler than sync'ing audiobooks is going from audio to reading and back http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/06/amazon-audio-whispersync/
[19:35] <brousch> Everytime I see "Paperwhite" I read "Paperweight"
[19:37] <derekv> aaaannnnnddd  not explicitly setting character encoding anywhere in entire cluster of web apps & backends =/
[19:38] <derekv> often i wonder about the idea of not doing work that isn't needed to fufill a user story
[19:40] <rick_h_> explicit ftw
[19:41] <brousch> Well it's better than implicit
[19:42] <derekv> sometimes this is constructive, sometimes not "We should probably do X... but it works without doing X? ok lets not do X right now"
[19:44] <derekv> lazyness to prevent premature generalization
[19:44] <derekv> like, a powerful idea
[19:44] <rick_h_> yea, sometimes you know things are worth doing off the bat because experience has tought you..pay now or pay more later
[19:44] <derekv> powerfull like napalm
[19:59] <derekv> its not like you make a user story like " application should continue to work after dec 31 "
[20:06] <rick_h_> oh man...*droooollll* over some of those rooms http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2012/09/the-sevenbedroom-vandusen-mansion-asks-750-k.php
[20:22] <derekv> AS A developer I NEED TO write code without thinking about business value SO THAT I CAN not hate my job
[20:22] <derekv> decomposed :
[20:22] <rick_h_> <3 it https://bmark.us/goodbyedelicious/recent
[20:23] <derekv> AS A developer I NEED TO win the lottory SO THAT
[20:23] <rick_h_> lol
[20:24] <derekv> whose that?
[20:24] <rick_h_> some new user today
[20:24] <rick_h_> with a username I <3
[20:24] <derekv> =]
[20:27] <rick_h_> and another 'haha!' for bookie https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/243806435417411584
[22:12] <wolfger> o/
[22:13] <wolfger> any CM7 freaks on here?
[22:14] <rick_h_> krondor usually
[22:14] <rick_h_> but think it's more CM9/etc
[22:14] <rick_h_> unless your CM7 !+ Cyanogenmod
[22:15] <wolfger> Yes, that is my CM7
[22:15] <wolfger> no krondor atm
[22:15] <wolfger> was brousch in cm?
[22:24] <rick_h_> not sure, I think he might have on his nook tablet
[22:50] <brousch> I have CM7 on my Nook color and old Droid 1
[23:21] <derekv> add bookmark via intent works
[23:25] <brousch> derekv: do you have the code up somewhere?
[23:25] <brousch> or an apk?
[23:32] <derekv> on github as androidbookie
[23:33] <derekv> under derekv
[23:34] <derekv> google gives ricks fork, maybe out of date :
[23:34] <derekv> it seems
[23:34] <derekv> i can provide an apk later tonight if its handy for anyone
[23:36] <brousch> saves some eclipse work for those of us who don't compile apks much
[23:36] <derekv> yea
[23:37] <brousch> I just started running a 6 hour long test of a mediawiki importer for localwiki
[23:37] <snap-l> Evening
[23:38] <snap-l> reminder: This Sunday is the GLobal Jam
[23:38] <derekv> itd be nice to convert to maven, do some sort of automatic builder
[23:38] <derekv> doesnt make sence to call it ci if im not writing tests
[23:39] <derekv> but i can make it work using branches
[23:39] <brousch> tests are for the weak!
[23:41] <derekv> i can appriciate tdd in a business context.  outside of that, i respect people who preffer it but
[23:41] <derekv> no dogma
[23:41] <derekv> tests are good
[23:42] <derekv> im skipping them for now
[23:43] <derekv> im doing it at work. it has its benefits, some trade offs, some limitations.  i wouldnt change it at work, probably most places could benefit from tdd
[23:43] <derekv> thats my 2c
[23:45] <derekv> im using connectbot any other good android ssh clients?
[23:54] <rick_h_> snap-l: can't make jam this weekend :(
[23:55] <derekv> awesome, already using my app