[00:15] <nathwill> aha
[00:26] <c_smith> hmmmm.... ChromiumOS seems interesting, and I'm talking ChromiumOS Lime/Vanilla
[00:28] <nathwill> ask kees :)
[00:30] <kees> i think chrome os on a chrome device is interesting. otherwise, simpler to just run chrome directly.
[00:42] <c_smith> kees, I'm trying it mainly out of curiosity.
[00:42] <c_smith> already got flash working, still seeing what I can and can't do.
[00:43] <c_smith> in other words, it's a short-term hobby.
[00:44] <c_smith> long-term for me is Linux, gonna try Calculate Linux for some of the hardware on the new laptop which doesn't work with any kernel version before 3.4.7
[00:44] <c_smith> Calculate has 3.5
[00:44] <c_smith> tried 3.5 on Ubuntu, but upon installing FGLRX, the system is hosed.
[00:45] <c_smith> I have heard fglrx works nicely with 3.5 on Gentoo and Gentoo-based systems.
[01:05]  * kees doesn't know much about fglrx. I just use ubuntu every where on normal systems.
[01:11] <nathwill> i've generally not found fglrx to be necessary over the last couple releases
[01:11] <nathwill> ... either
[01:11] <nathwill> derp
[07:14] <TRAVISg> bkerensa
[07:14] <TRAVISg> hey htere
[07:15] <TRAVISg> I had a partition with 11.10 on it that I had never been able to clear so I am just upgrading that
[07:15] <TRAVISg> moved most of my files over to my external
[07:20] <bkerensa> kk
[07:24] <bkerensa> slangasek: what is the proper way use merge o matic?
[07:24] <bkerensa> ;)
[07:25] <bkerensa> nvm
[16:05] <MtBiker> morning!
[17:49] <MtBiker> I'm going to find the person responsible for java updates and kick them in the teeth
[18:12] <sbeattie> MtBiker: ummm, what?
[18:13] <MtBiker> the java updater finds a new update every week
[18:13] <MtBiker> Our users aren't admins so they can't update... So I get a call about twice a day from users asking what to do about the update
[18:14] <tgm4883> MtBiker, disable the update check?
[18:15] <tgm4883> assuming you are talking about windows, you can do this via GPO
[18:15] <MtBiker> I have started doing that but on some machines it breaks java... then prompts every reboot that java can't be found.  I've spent hours trying to fix that problem but have been unable too... so I'm worried about sending out a script that disables the updater to everybody
[18:16] <tgm4883> script?
[18:16] <tgm4883> surely it is just a registry key
[18:16] <MtBiker> well its really just one reg key
[18:16] <MtBiker> yeah it is
[18:16] <MtBiker> its nothing big
[18:16] <tgm4883> so setting EnableJavaUpdate to 0 causes the machine to not find java anymore?
[18:16] <tgm4883> that doesn't make much sense
[18:17] <MtBiker> but like I said... some machines it causes java to break
[18:17] <MtBiker> yeah I know... its strange
[18:17] <sbeattie> MtBiker: thanks for clarifying. Since I'm the person that typically does java updates for ubuntu, I kinda took your first comment personally.
[18:17] <MtBiker> lol sorry sbeattie, java updates for ubuntu are painless... java updates for windows are annoying
[18:18] <tgm4883> MtBiker, any similarity between the machines that it breaks on?
[18:18] <tgm4883> I don't think I've ever installed java for ubuntu using packages
[18:18] <MtBiker> I'm wondering if it has to do with the updater currently has an update ready and wants to install vs not... or if the registry change happens with a user who is not admin and a user who is....
[18:19] <MtBiker> there are many varibles that I havn't fully explored yet
[18:19] <tgm4883> I don't see why the user would matter providing  you are running the script as system
[18:20] <tgm4883> or why you are running a script (i'm assuming logon script) rather than just setting the registry key
[18:20] <tgm4883> then again, I try to stay out of the windows domain being i'm a linux admin
[18:20] <MtBiker> no I have been changing the key manually per user... I don't want to send anything out to anybody yet...
[18:21] <tgm4883> right but you aren't running it as the user, otherwise they wouldn't have rights to change the key
[18:22] <tgm4883> I'm assuming they all have the same version of java (eg. 1.5, 1.6, or 1.7)
[18:22] <MtBiker> yes, I run regedit as admin
[18:23] <tgm4883> xp, vista, 7?
[18:23] <MtBiker> pretty much... don't worry about it too much tgm :) I'm going to great a GP and deploy it to a few test boxes... deploy it out slowly to find the common factor in all this..
[18:23] <MtBiker> 7 and xp mix
[18:24] <tgm4883> sounds good
[18:25] <tgm4883> although java updates are one of those things that probably needs updated more often
[18:26] <MtBiker> they do... but they need to change the way they update
[18:27] <MtBiker> this pop-up notification straight to the user every day is not working
[18:27] <MtBiker> maybe a java service you could install that would allow admins to deploy java updates silently
[18:56] <tgm4883> At least it's a simple reg key to disable (providing it works for you), with quicktime, you have to push down a quicktime preferences file
[19:02] <bkerensa> good afternoon
[19:06] <MaskilPDX> Hya bkerensa
[19:07] <bkerensa> So it looks like I am getting some Pictograms from Canonical for my office wall :)
[22:23] <slangasek> bkerensa: too bad we're not doing the jam, I had the fresh blackberry all set to bring
[22:23] <bkerensa> slangasek: blackberry?
[22:23] <slangasek> jam
[22:23] <bkerensa> LOL
[22:23] <bkerensa> :D
[22:24] <bkerensa> Well darn
[22:24] <bkerensa> slangasek: we are still doing one just over IRC
[22:24] <bkerensa> :D
[22:24] <bkerensa> so enjoy that jam
[22:24] <slangasek> nah, I was going to bring it and make someone else take it home
[22:24] <bkerensa> slangasek: Also I am going to be a keyholder at FG so in the future I wont even need to give any notice which will be great!
[22:24] <slangasek> ah, well then
[22:27] <bkerensa> slangasek: did you see Iowa delegates last night?
[22:27] <bkerensa> :D
[22:27] <slangasek> no
[22:28] <slangasek> generally have better things to do than watch the political circus, from whichever party ;)
[22:28] <bkerensa> heh
[22:28] <slangasek> bkerensa: though, that reminds me; was it you that had a link to a website that did a side-by-side comparison of how Obama v. Romney's tax plans would impact you?
[22:28] <bkerensa> yes
[22:28] <slangasek> can I have that link again? :)
[22:28] <bkerensa> well it could have been someone else too
[22:28]  * bkerensa digs for it
[22:29] <bkerensa> https://www.politify.com/
[22:29] <bkerensa> slangasek: ^ that one?
[22:30] <slangasek> my browser says yes
[22:30] <slangasek> thanks
[22:32] <bkerensa> slangasek: you going to the Hack Day on Saturday?
[22:32] <bkerensa> http://calagator.org/events/1250462748
[22:32] <slangasek> hadn't heard of it, and probably not
[22:33] <slangasek> hmm, I remember this site having more knobs before.
[22:37] <slangasek> phooey, can't manage to drive it
[22:46] <bkerensa> slangasek: so I guess landscape-client proposal is no go
[22:46] <bkerensa> :)
[22:46] <bkerensa> I'm unsure why they dont want it merged since it has the same fix
[23:57] <slangasek> bkerensa: ehm, so, the theory is that it would be unnecessary effort to upload it since the fix is upstream and the upstream release will happen soon
[23:58] <slangasek> but "Real soon now" is standard code for "oops we missed the freeze"
[23:58] <slangasek> so if the fix is identical, I'm inclined to merge it anyway so that translators get more of a head start