[00:23] <wolfgang__> after i download the torrent for xubuntu how do i install it? im using ubuntu right now.
[00:35] <wolfgang__>  after i download the torrent for xubuntu how do i install it? im using ubuntu right now.
[00:36] <v1adimir> system - startup disc creator, but you should be able to upgrade directly from the os
[00:36] <wolfgang__> ok
[00:36] <wolfgang__> how
[00:36] <v1adimir> oh nvm ubuntu - xubuntu
[00:36] <wolfgang__> yeah
[00:36] <wolfgang__> so what do i do?
[00:36] <bazhang> xubuntu-desktop package would be easier
[00:37] <wolfgang__> where is that at?
[00:37] <bazhang> then choose xubuntu at the login screen
[00:37] <bazhang> no need for a separate iso
[00:37] <v1adimir> one link http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-xfce-xubuntu-on-ubuntu-linux/
[00:37] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[00:37] <v1adimir> ^
[00:38] <bazhang> wolfgang__, just do that while in ubuntu
[00:38] <wolfgang__> ok
[00:38] <bazhang> log out afterwards, then choose xubuntu from the login window
[00:38] <wolfgang__> will that install the whole os?
[00:38] <bazhang> yes
[00:39] <wolfgang__> ok
[00:39] <v1adimir> xubuntu is the xfce shell for ubuntu, you'll still have the other ones there
[00:39] <bazhang> you can do that with lubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and so on
[00:39] <v1adimir> I think?
[00:39] <bazhang> well the DE, not the shell, strictly speaking
[00:39] <bazhang> Desktop Environment
[00:40] <v1adimir> wolfgang__: here's another one http://askubuntu.com/questions/64241/how-do-i-switch-to-xubuntu
[00:40] <wolfgang__> whats the difference?
[00:41] <wolfgang__> i want to partition can i do that with the howtogeek?
[00:41] <v1adimir> just says about not-removing gnome and some things you might be interested in
[00:41] <bazhang> some different default apps, as well as themes, look and feel
[00:41] <wolfgang__> ok
[00:41] <wolfgang__> i want to partition can i do that with the howtogeek?
[00:41] <bazhang> why do you want to partition
[00:42] <wolfgang__> hmm
[00:42] <wolfgang__> good point
[00:42] <v1adimir> :)
[00:42] <wolfgang__> i just want something to run faster
[00:42] <wolfgang__> xubuntu will right?
[00:42] <v1adimir> it might
[00:42] <wolfgang__> ok
[00:44] <v1adimir> btw., might as well make a usb or disc livecd with that iso you downloaded
[00:44] <v1adimir> in case something goes wrong
[00:44] <wolfgang__> ok how?
[00:44] <wolfgang__> i have a blank cd
[00:45] <v1adimir> not sure if Ubuntu has the Startup Disc Creator, or if it's a different util
[00:45] <v1adimir> *Disk
[00:46] <wolfgang__> what do i do check dash home?
[00:46] <wolfgang__> its there
[00:46] <v1adimir> geez I'm just retarded with the stuff I type - I'm looking at it now and it seems to be only for USB sticks
[00:46] <wolfgang__> Ok
[00:47] <wolfgang__> i dont know if i can really spare one
[00:47] <wolfgang__> i need the only two i have
[00:47] <v1adimir> looks like this is it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[00:48] <wolfgang__> for disks?
[00:48] <v1adimir> yeah
[00:48] <wolfgang__> ok
[00:48] <v1adimir> and '5. Select the write speed. If you are burning a Ubuntu Live CD (one that you may want to boot from), it is recommended that you write at the lowest possible speed. '
[00:52] <hanslanda> does anyone can tell me how can i run a program that dont has a installer over the Run Command Alt+F2?
[00:53] <nyRednek> do any of you guys use mutt?
[00:53] <wolfgang--_> my comp froze whale still installing
[00:53] <wolfgang--_> now its all wierd
[00:53] <wolfgang--_> what do i do?
[00:54] <wolfgang--_> it loads the xubuntu start up screen then has ubuntu
[00:54] <nyRednek> wolfgang--_: is that the extent of "weird"?
[00:54] <wolfgang--_> pretty much
[00:54] <wolfgang--_> lol
[00:54] <hanslanda> does anyone can tell me how can i run a program that dont has a
[00:54] <hanslanda>             installer over the Run Command Alt+F2?
[00:55] <v1adimir> did you alt+f4 logout and then select xubuntu from the login?..
[00:55] <wolfgang--_> no i my comp froze
[00:55] <v1adimir> oh :(
[00:55] <wolfgang--_> so i hard shut off it was all i could do
[00:55] <wolfgang--_> so now its partly installed but not all the way
[00:56] <wolfgang--_> now what?
[00:56] <v1adimir> hanslanda: not sure what you mean
[00:56] <wolfgang--_> sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop ?
[00:56] <nyRednek> wolfgang--_: um, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[00:56] <v1adimir> wolfgang--_: I'd be afraid to venture a guess
[00:57] <hanslanda> vladimir, ive installed BitchX for example, the folder is /home/user/Downloads/BitchX
[00:57] <wolfgang--_> so then what do i do?
[00:57] <nyRednek> wolfgang--_: that's how i went from ubuntu to xubuntu
[00:57] <hanslanda> so everytime i need to run it i need to go to that folder to execute the program
[00:57] <hanslanda> cant i make a shortcut or in the alt+f2 screen run it?
[00:57] <nyRednek> hanslanda: you can make a ~/bin dir, put a symlink to the installed program, and add ~/bin to your path in .profile
[00:58] <v1adimir> hanslanda: create launcher from the desktop, that should work (right-click menu)
[00:58] <nyRednek> that too
[00:58] <hanslanda> nyRednek...how can i do that? can u give me the steps?
[00:58] <wolfgang--_> should  i try sudoapt-get remove xubuntu-desktop ? what would go wrong?
[00:58] <nyRednek> wolfgang--_: it won't do much...it's a meta-package that depends on a bunch of other packages
[00:59] <wolfgang--_> so just install again?
[00:59] <hanslanda> nyRednek i dont know what a symlink means or how to create that
[00:59] <nyRednek> hanslanda: symlinks are uses of the ln command
[00:59] <v1adimir> wolfgang--_: yea, try alt+f4 to log out and clear your session (for whatever hung it), log back in and do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[00:59] <v1adimir> and cross your fingers :)
[01:00] <nyRednek> well, ln with the -s option
[01:00] <wolfgang--_> what?
[01:00] <wolfgang--_> i already restarted comp
[01:00] <nyRednek> what v1adimir said is easier
[01:00] <v1adimir> restarting doesn't really mean anything, the session might get carried over
[01:00] <hanslanda> nyRednek so i have to do ln -s /home/user/Downloads/BitchX/BitchX /bin/BitchX?
[01:00] <wolfgang--_> sudo apt-get update
[01:00] <wolfgang--_> oh
[01:00] <wolfgang--_> this is xchat
[01:01] <nyRednek> wolfgang--_: ok, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:01] <nyRednek> hanslanda: nope
[01:01] <nyRednek> hanslanda: you make a /home/user/bin dir
[01:01] <nyRednek> hanslanda: that's the established way of handling binaries inside your home dir
[01:01] <hanslanda> mkdir /home/user/bin dir
[01:01] <hanslanda> after this...what so?
[01:02] <nyRednek> hanslanda: yes, then ln -s sourceFile destinationFile
[01:02] <wolfgang--_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1188076/
[01:02] <nyRednek> and make sure $HOME/bin is part of your PATH statement in $HOME/.profile
[01:03] <nyRednek> you can test that by running echo $PATH
[01:03] <v1adimir> wolfgang--_: do you have really fast internet?
[01:03] <wolfgang--_> Yesh
[01:03] <wolfgang--_> *yes
[01:03] <hanslanda> nyRednek how can i edit the PATH?
[01:03] <wolfgang--_> well
[01:03] <wolfgang--_> comcst
[01:03] <v1adimir> ok so maybe it did install, just logout and try to select xubuntu from the login screen
[01:03] <wolfgang--_> xfinity
[01:03] <wolfgang--_> with belkin router
[01:04] <wolfgang--_> so im pretty sure its fast
[01:04] <nyRednek> hanslanda: well, usually, your .profile or .cshrc set your $PATH
[01:04] <v1adimir> have you got autologin enabled?
[01:04] <wolfgang--_> ?
[01:04] <wolfgang--_> auto login?
[01:04] <v1adimir> when you boot the computer, is there a login screen before you get into the os - or does it go straight to desktop?
[01:05] <wolfgang--_> login screen
[01:05] <v1adimir> ok so there should be a dropdown, where you can select xubuntu, did you try that?
[01:05] <wolfgang--_> i looked for one
[01:05] <wolfgang--_> couldnt find one
[01:06] <v1adimir> ok sec
[01:07] <v1adimir> wolfgang--_: i'm not familiar with plain ubuntu, does your login screen look something like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1694837 where you can pick the session you want to start
[01:07] <wolfgang--_> no
[01:07] <v1adimir> hm
[01:08] <wolfgang--_> should i log out and look for one again?
[01:08] <v1adimir> the rest of that thread mentions about "gdm" not being installed, maybe that's the case
[01:08] <wolfgang--_> ok
[01:08] <wolfgang--_> what do i do?
[01:09] <v1adimir> lightdm/gdm there's that issue also; because there's 2 of them
[01:09] <wolfgang--_> So what do i do?
[01:09] <wolfgang--_> also this installes the whole os right?
[01:10] <v1adimir> not sure, someone else may need to help :s
[01:10] <nyRednek> wolfgang--_: it will install all xubuntu that is not part of ubuntu
[01:10] <nyRednek> wolfgang--_: they do have common packages, you know
[01:10] <wolfgang--_> yep
[01:10] <wolfgang--_> so what do i do?
[01:11] <wolfgang--_> i want it because its more light weight
[01:11] <bazhang> show us a screenshot of your login window
[01:11] <wolfgang--_> how?
[01:11] <bazhang> prtscrn button
[01:11] <nyRednek> just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and it won't run the gnome desktop unless you request it
[01:11] <wolfgang--_> brb after i log out
[01:12] <bazhang> wolfgang--_, are you using MINT or something?
[01:12] <wolfgang--_> ubuntu
[01:12] <wolfgang--_> 12.04
[01:12] <wolfgang--_> brb
[01:14] <wolfgang__> Found it
[01:14] <wolfgang__> it was in a diffent spot!
[01:14] <wolfgang__> different than the howtogee
[01:14] <wolfgang__> different than the howtogeek
[01:14] <wolfgang__> thank you
[01:14] <v1adimir> found the xubuntu session?
[01:14] <wolfgang__> Yes
[01:14] <v1adimir> nice!
[01:14] <wolfgang__> it will be more light weight right?
[01:15] <v1adimir> should be :)
[01:15] <wolfgang__> yay
[01:15] <v1adimir> \o/
[01:15] <wolfgang__> thank you so much ill let you know how it works out if i see you on here again
[01:15] <wolfgang__> Bey
[01:15] <v1adimir> np, gl
[01:15] <wolfgang__> what does gl mean?
[01:15] <v1adimir> hehe good luck =)
[01:15] <wolfgang__> oh ok thank you bey
[01:20] <wolfgang__> i didnt want all the same files. what can i do about that?
[01:21] <wolfgang__> are you still here?
[01:22] <v1adimir> yea but it's complicated ;p
[01:22] <wolfgang__> aw
[01:22] <v1adimir> you would have to make space for new partitions and so on
[01:22] <wolfgang__> how long does that take?
[01:23] <v1adimir> to have it as a separate os
[01:23] <wolfgang__> so
[01:23] <wolfgang__> im sol?
[01:23] <v1adimir> it's not long, just not sure I'm the right person to help out with that
[01:23] <wolfgang__> ok
[01:23] <wolfgang__> Is anyone else here?
[01:24] <wolfgang__> hello?
[01:24] <wolfgang__> wait
[01:24] <wolfgang__> couldnt i make another user account?
[01:24] <wolfgang__> wouldnt that work?
[01:24] <v1adimir> uh probably xD
[01:25] <wolfgang__> awesome
[01:25] <wolfgang__> thats simple
[01:25] <wolfgang__> im admin of this comp so i can do that
[01:25] <v1adimir> :)
[01:27] <wolfgang__> there
[01:27] <wolfgang__> thank you once again bey
[02:00] <nyRednek> heh, i passed out
[02:00] <v1adimir> w/b ;p
[02:06] <nyRednek> v1adimir: heh, i pass out all the time...nothing really special about it
[02:06] <v1adimir> :)
[02:33] <wolfgang__> my dad says i can only have 1 os is xubuntu-desktop a seperate os?
[02:54] <wolfgang__> if i have ubuntu then i got xubuntu-desktop is that a different os?
[03:03] <itai_michaelson> hi, i have a problem with libreoffice, i just doesnt respond, if i run 'libreoffiice' from terminal , nothing happens, no output. I tried reinstalling, but no change, what can i do?
[03:06] <wolfgang__> TPB bro
 TPB bro
 hello?
[03:08] <itai_michaelson> TPB bro?
[03:08] <wolfgang__> The peanut butter?
[03:09] <wolfgang__> sorry i cant really help
[03:09] <wolfgang__> im new to xubuntu
[03:09] <wolfgang__> maybe run it withought terminal?
[03:09] <wolfgang__> Just click it?
[03:10] <itai_michaelson> wolfgang__, it didnt work so i ran it through terminal to see if any errors come up....c'mon
[03:10] <wolfgang__> lol
[03:10] <wolfgang__> um
[03:11] <wolfgang__> what command did you use?
[03:11] <itai_michaelson> libreoffice
[03:11] <wolfgang__> try ./libreoffice
[03:12] <itai_michaelson> libreoffice --writer
[03:12] <wolfgang__> ok
[03:12] <wolfgang__> ./ libreoffice\ writer
[03:12] <wolfgang__> ?
[03:12] <itai_michaelson> dude, don't worry about it..
[03:12] <wolfgang__> ok sorry
[03:13] <itai_michaelson> i'll try #libreoffice
[03:13] <wolfgang__> Just try and help a guy out... all i did *sniff *sniff
[03:13] <itai_michaelson> peace
[03:13] <wolfgang__> And what do i get? *sniff sniff
[04:00] <wolfgang__> Love oyu guys bye
[05:10] <devnill> I'm having trouble adding workspaces in compiz
[05:14] <devnill> I've added them but I should have 2 vertical and 2 horizontal but on my workspace display in the notification is showing a row
[05:26] <bazhang> devnill, in ccsm? that refers to the cube sides, iirc
[05:37] <greasegum> has anyone been having problems playing flash video in chrome and mozilla lately?
[05:38] <greasegum> seems ever since adobe cut support, my videos have been randomly out of whack.
[05:38] <greasegum> how can I get them back in whack?
[05:39] <hanslanda> does anyone can help me? I was trying to install Minecraft game and found a script to do all the work (install java and minecraft)...but now my desktop is all messed up...and i cant even see my wallpaper or the xfce panel...help please! (THE SCRIPT http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726735)
[05:41] <bazhang> !crosspost | hanslanda
[05:41] <hanslanda> !imsorry | bazhang
[06:06] <hanslanda> does anyone can help me? I was trying to install Minecraft game and found a script to do all the work (install java and minecraft)...but now my desktop is all messed up...and i cant even see my wallpaper or the xfce panel...help please! (THE SCRIPT http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726735)
[06:50] <mr-fool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12220740#post12220740
[08:37] <mips1911> What's the difference between ldm & lightdm?
[08:40] <Unit193> Quite a bit, ldm is LTSP: http://ltsp.org/
[08:40] <mips1911> so xubuntu uses lightdm with all the extra gnome dependancies?
[08:41] <Unit193> What extras?
[08:41] <mips1911> if I select lightdm in the repos it wants to pull in a whole lot of dependencies
[08:42] <Unit193> What if you install lightdm-gtk-greeter ?
[08:43] <mips1911> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1188540/
[08:44] <mips1911> lightdm-gtk-greeter does not do that. That's a bit daft though
[08:45] <TheSheep> either you have all the gnome bling, i18n and accessibility support -- and that requires all the gnome libs, or you have a simple greeter -- decide
[08:46] <Unit193> Lightdm was pulling in unity-greeter, which has a ton of depends.
[08:46] <TheSheep> alternatively one could re-implement all those gnome libs outside gnome to implement all that, but that would be just as heavy
[08:46] <mips1911> I just htink the default should be the lightweight one
[08:49] <mips1911> why does xubunut-desktop pull in ldm?
[08:50] <mips1911> ignore that question, dunno where i saw that
[08:50]  * TheSheep obediently ignores
[08:52] <mips1911> let me reboot and see if fixing my stupid mistakes yields correct desktop resolutions
[08:55] <mips1911> grr, I can't get persistent nvidia settings in 12.10
[09:14] <mips1911> Whoohoo, nvidia config is now persistent upon reboot!!!
[10:23] <apm1> how do i install the proprietary nvidia drivers on ubuntu , i have a geforce 320m
[10:23] <apm1> *xubuntu
[10:25] <apm1> xubuntu is not suggesting a proprietary driver like ubuntu does :(
[10:26] <apm1> i tried searching in the repos with synaptic but there are weird version numbers :(
[10:27] <mips1911> you have two options, you can install from the repos or you can get the newer ones from from the x-swat ppa http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat
[10:27] <apm1> mips1911: but which one from the repo ?
[10:27] <mips1911> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings works for the repos and if you enabled the ppa it will install the latest from there
[10:28]  * apm1 googles ppa
[10:28] <mips1911> nvidia-current & nvidia-settings are the two packages you want
[10:28] <apm1> and the open/free drivers how should i uninstall them ?
[10:29] <apm1> ^i come from debian :)
[10:31] <mips1911> I think it will automatically remove them when you install the propriatry ones or see http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/InstallNouveau
[10:32] <apm1> huh , ok
[10:32] <mips1911> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:33] <mips1911> See this if nouveau is being used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Removing_Nouveau_.28advanced.2BAC8-expert_users.29 but it says "It's possible to remove it completely, but it is not necessary and therefore not recommended." so maybe just leave them!
[10:34] <apm1> mips1911: in debian if you don't remove the opensource drivers then it will keep running them even if you install the non-free binary drivers
[10:34] <mips1911> apml, I can't speak for debian as I have not used in a while (I used cruncbang sometime back, squeeze)
[10:35] <apm1> i hope xubuntu being a derivate doesn't do the same
[10:35] <mips1911> apml, no it won't, what applies to ubuntu applies to xubuntu
[10:36] <apm1> actually with nouveanu opengl is trash , i noticed it in gltron , so i hope the nonfree driver helps it :)
[10:37] <mips1911> it should, I never use nouveau
[10:37] <mips1911> only way to find out is to try
[10:38] <apm1> but one thing still bugs me if xubuntu = xfce+ubuntu , then how come it is not suggesting nonfree drivers when ubuntu is ?
[10:38] <apm1> although it is using a nonfree driver for my wifi ?
[10:39] <mips1911> I dont know.
[10:40] <apm1> mips1911: then to whom should i ask , on the dev channel ?
[10:41] <apm1> mips1911: what nvidia gpu model do you have ?
[10:41] <mips1911> 9600GT
[10:41] <apm1> how old is 9600gt ?
[10:43] <mips1911> I'll can check for you but it does not really matter as the drivers support a whole range of models from older to newest
[10:43] <mips1911> You installation options are basically http://paste.ubuntu.com/1188704/
[10:44] <apm1> ok , i am currently downloading the drivers , and the settings package how do i use it ?
[10:46] <apm1> mips1911: how do i use the package "nvidia-settings" ?
[10:46] <mips1911> 9600GT is from 2008, 320M is from 2010 and both are supported by the drivers in the repos & the newer ones on the z-swat ppa. See here for all supported models http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux-display-amd64-304.43-driver-uk.html
[10:47] <apm1> and the settings thing ?
[10:47] <mips1911> you just run nvidia-settings from the menu or cli to change your settings
[10:48] <apm1> i have never played with gpu settings before so i am not sure what stuff should i change ?
[10:50] <mips1911> well if you resolution is not right you can change it with nvidia-settings and it will save it to xorg.conf, you might not even need if you are running a single display, I have dual displays with different resolutions and I use nvidia-settings to setup the individual resolutions for the displays, as far as i know if you only have a single display the resolution is already correct
[10:51] <apm1> mips1911: ok thanks for your help  , i will report after reboot :)
[10:52] <mips1911> It also allows to do color corection/calibration to suite your display and other things like antialiasing, anisotropic filtering, texture quality, power profiles, cursor shadows etc
[10:52] <mips1911> ok, I'll hang around
[11:01] <apm1> mips1911: awesome , it is working perfectly
[11:01] <mips1911> I got a bit worried when you left as I realised you might have a lptop with optimus
[11:02] <apm1> mips1911: thank you so much :)
[11:02] <apm1> mips1911: what i have a laptop with optimus =-O
[11:03] <mips1911> Usually nvidia drivers have a problem with optimus (dual GPU Intel+nvidia)
[11:03] <knome> apm1, what's your CPU/GPU?
[11:03] <knome> oh ah, no optimus ;)
[11:03] <apm1> mips1911: i have a 2010 macbookpro with only one nvidia geforce 320m
[11:04] <knome> nvm then..
[11:04] <knome> i thought something with optimus worked OOTB :P
[11:04] <mips1911> Ok then you are fine, phewwww :D
[11:05] <mips1911> knome, has things changed? I recall optimus users needing something like bumblebee?
[11:05] <apm1> when i booted this time there was a nvidia logo , i have never seen that before ?
[11:05] <mips1911> yes that's normal, you can disable it if you want
[11:05] <apm1> nah i like flashing :d
[11:06] <mips1911> lol ok
[11:06] <knome> mips1911, yeah, i believe it still needs bumblebee, but i also think it's slightly better now...
[11:06] <apm1> mips1911: thanks for your help :)
[11:06] <mips1911> knome, ok. I would not know as i don't have optimus so never tried it
[11:07] <mips1911> apml, no problemo
[11:07] <knome> mips1911, me neither. a friend had it, and fixed his problem by writing a few more lines of driver/launcher code :P
[11:07] <mips1911> knome, lol I'm not that clever
[11:07] <apm1> mips1911: are you using wine on 12.04.1 ?
[11:07] <knome> mips1911, me neither... hopefully he is :P
[11:08] <mips1911> apm1, I'm running 12.10 beta without wine so sorry can't help there
[11:08] <apm1> ^ i wanna play gta 3 on xubuntu 12.04.1
[11:09] <knome> apm1, check wine appdb if it's supported
[11:09] <knome> apm1, if not, then i think you're pretty much out of luck :)
[11:09] <apm1> knome: it is platinum
[11:10] <knome> apm1, then it should work.. with wine stuff, generally refer to the wine documentation
[11:10] <mips1911> Platinum & Gold http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=936 so why don;t you give it a bash ;)
[11:10] <apm1> http://tuxoblog.blogspot.in/2006/10/how-to-run-gta-3-with-wine.html
[11:11] <mips1911> That's really old but who knows
[11:12] <knome> probably still valid.
[11:12] <knome> gta3 is really old too.
[11:12] <knome> wine hasn't changed too much either
[11:13] <mips1911> maybe I should try wine with Homefront which i'm busy playing in win7
[11:13] <apm1> huh windows machine , that part i can't do, as i have sworn to use only unix for the rest of my life :d
[11:15] <mips1911> apm1, I game occasionally so instead of worrying about wine compatibility I just boot into win7 for my fix of gaming, does not get used for anything else
[11:15]  * apm1 investigates into winetricks 
[11:16] <apm1> anyone using winetricks ?
[11:18] <mips1911> does it not get installed by default when you install wine?
[11:19] <apm1> nope it is a frontend to wine
[11:20] <apm1> ^well a script
[11:21] <mips1911> apm1 you can try the #winehq channel for wine related questions
[11:22] <apm1> mips1911: ok joining it
[11:23] <mips1911> I'm starving, in the mood for a bunny chow
[11:24] <apm1> mips1911: ewww, i am a vegetarian
[11:25] <mips1911> lol, it does not contain rabbit. I could be meat though or veg, I'm keen for a bean one
[11:25] <apm1> mips1911: beans are ok :p
[11:31] <apm1> gotta go now ttyl :p
[11:33] <xubuntu828> Hello! Sorry for the newbie question but I have nowhere else to go at the moment. Does anyone know if thunar dropbox plugin is working at the moment? Cause I cant get it to run.
[11:39] <mips1911> off to the shop to get a bean bunny chow, bbl
[11:39] <xubuntu828> Hello! Sorry for the newbie question but I have nowhere else to go at the moment. Does anyone know if thunar dropbox plugin is working at the moment? Cause I cant get it to run.
[12:46] <jola> how can I move all files of directory foo/* into . recursively?
[12:49] <mips1911> .?
[12:53] <Pici> jola: This *should* work: find /path/to/foo/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} mv {} ./
[12:53] <Pici> jola: if you know that the files don't have any spaces in them, you can just do: find /path/to/foo -type f -exec mv {} . \;
[13:02] <pat> hello!
[13:02] <mips1911> hi
[13:02] <pat> i'm installing xubuntu on my old pc
[13:02] <mips1911> yes
[13:03] <pat> Nothing, I'm here just for kill time
[13:03] <mips1911> oh ok, kill on
[13:04] <mips1911> if you are into s&m try 12.10 :D
[13:04] <mips1911> and help with testing
[13:05] <pat> yes! i'm installing 12.10 right now
[13:06] <mips1911> desktop or alternate iso?
[13:07] <pat> desktop
[13:07] <mips1911> how's the installer working for you?
[13:08] <pat> yes i'm installing by a bootalble usb pen
[13:08] <mips1911> is ubiquity (gui install interface) working ok though?
[13:09] <pat> yes, I think
[13:09] <pat> i'm near to the end of the process
[13:11] <pat> ok complete
[13:11] <pat> see you
[13:12] <mips1911> ok
[13:12] <mips1911> reboot and tell us what you think, there are a few bugs though
[13:18] <mips1911> amp1 come right with wine?
[13:18] <apm1> no i am quite confused
[13:19] <apm1> be back in 30 mins
[14:19] <raven> hi
[14:19] <raven> where are the config files of the energy settings?
[14:52] <TheSheep> raven: what energy settings?
[14:52] <raven> TheSheep timeouts for monitor for example
[14:54] <TheSheep> they are stored in xfconf
[14:54] <TheSheep> you can get to them with the settings editor
[14:56] <raven> TheSheep i need any command line way
[14:57] <TheSheep> raven: xfconf
[14:58] <TheSheep> raven: you have xfconf-query for querying
[14:58] <TheSheep> raven: oh, and it can also set a value
[14:59] <raven> ok tnx
[14:59] <TheSheep> raven: for example `xfconf-query -l -c xfce4-power-manager` will list the power manager-related properties you have
[18:23] <blackgatonegro> why does any version of ubuntu end picking a server not in my country when I tell them to find the best server?
[18:23] <blackgatonegro> Also, it really doesn't end being the best server.
[18:27] <holstein> blackgatonegro: would you like to konw how to edit the server config?
[18:28] <mips1911> I just use the main server
[18:28] <holstein> i can think of a few reasons why it might not choose what you are expecting blackgatonegro ... a proxy... your isp's setup... the path you are taking from your connection during setup
[18:29] <blackgatonegro> no proxy, might be my isp setup
[18:29] <blackgatonegro> anyway there are only like six servers for my country
[18:30] <blackgatonegro> I just pick one my one and test the speed installing something small
[18:30] <holstein> blackgatonegro: would you like to request more? or set up a server?
[18:31] <blackgatonegro> the problem is that x/ubuntu always picks servers from another country when I make it pick best server in synaptic, I need a terminal command that does something like "pick best server from country "X"
[18:32] <holstein> blackgatonegro: its likely the path you are taking, from your location... making the intaller choose a server you are not expecting
[18:33] <blackgatonegro> I select over servers from my country in xubuntu, then pick the "pick best server option"
[18:33] <holstein> blackgatonegro: maybe it woud be best from your location to try it manually
[18:34] <blackgatonegro> thats what I have been doing, but that still does not tell me what server is faster
[18:35] <holstein> blackgatonegro: faster is likely going to depend certain variables.. it could literally be picking the fastest one based on where you are connecting
[18:35] <holstein> the fastest at that time
[19:25] <blackgatonegro> I got a weird bug after updating xubuntu
[19:25] <holstein> blackgatonegro: whats the bug #?
[19:25] <blackgatonegro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1189509/
[19:26] <blackgatonegro> I guess I will have to manualy edit the package list
[19:27] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1010212 might be relavant
[19:27] <blackgatonegro> how I do that?
[19:27] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863742 has a few suggestions
[19:28] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/346386 is the original
[19:28] <holstein> ^^ at least it seems like that to me
[19:29] <blackgatonegro> tryng to fix it right now
[19:33] <blackgatonegro> error fixed, thank you
[20:31] <xubuntu392> could someone help me out please D:
[20:37] <xubuntu392> i can't figure out how to get a terminal app to show up in the xfce menu lol D:
[21:03] <David-A> xubuntu392: a specific app? if you make an app with a gui and want it to show in the menu, make a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/
[21:54] <Guest22461> Hello.  I'm trying to upgrade an older computer i have that has xubuntu 9.04 installed up to 12.04
[21:55] <holstein> Guest22461: i would just reinstall
[21:55] <holstein> you'll need to go 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 to 12.04
[21:56] <holstein> each of those can take several hours, best case
[22:02] <pantheon> нужна помощь
[22:03] <pantheon> я в Линуксе совсем нуб. После установки обновлений перестал работать менеджер приложений, менеджер обновлений и веб-браузер
[22:03] <pantheon> можно сделать откат обновлений?
[22:04] <holstein> !ru
[22:05] <holstein> pantheon: ^^
[22:06] <pantheon> thanks a lot))
[22:11] <eric_> Thanks holstein.  I might try anyway. It's a fairly fast machine.  I can run from the images.    and I've already got images for 10.04 and 12.04,
[22:11] <pantheon> how i can re-install Firefox?
[22:11] <eric_> downloading 9.10 right now.
[22:12] <eric_> Is there a list of the md5sums from an official mirror?  I'm not sure I'm getting from an "official" mirror.
[22:20] <pantheon> can't do anything with it((
[22:21] <eric_> pantheon,  try 'sudo apt-get reinstall firefox
[22:21] <pantheon> oh, thanks!
[22:22] <eric_> or maybe 'sudo apt-get install firefox --reinstall'
[22:22] <eric_> it's been a while.  One of those works.     maybe even 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox'
[22:23] <livingdaylight> i see ubuntustudio is now using xfce - good, eh?
[22:23] <pantheon> i'm trying now, thanks!
[22:27] <eric_> OK.  Let me know which way works.
[22:27] <pantheon> eric_, "sudo apt-get install firefox --reinstall" works
[22:29] <eric_> Cool.  I hope that fixes your issues.
[22:29] <pantheon> one of them...
[22:30] <eric_> It's also possible you have some data corruption in your profile directory under your home directory.  If only one user has an issue, that's often the problem.
[22:34] <pantheon> i have a same problem with application center (центр приложений)
[22:35] <pantheon> there is no one at #xubuntu-ru
[22:40] <apm1> which amd/ati proprietary driver packaget to install , the fglrx or fglrx post release ?
[22:42] <apm1> *package
[22:42] <apm1> mips1911: which amd/ati proprietary driver packaget to install , the fglrx or fglrx post release ? :)
[22:44] <mips1911> apm1, sorry but no idea as I've never had an ati gpu
[22:45] <apm1> mips1911: btw i got gta3 working on my nvidia on xubuntu
[22:45] <mips1911> cool
[22:47] <mips1911> apm1, is the ati with 12.04 or 12.10?
[22:48] <apm1> mips1911: 12.04.1
[22:48] <David-A> apm1: the "system settings > additional driver" tool will try to detect the hardware and select the best version of the available drivers. did you try that and it was not good?
[22:49] <pantheon> different stripes appear on screen and mouse pointer does not mapped зкщзукдн(((
[22:49] <pantheon> *properly
[22:49] <apm1> system settings>additional drivers is the one prompting me with 2 drivers
[22:50] <David-A> apm1: is one of them "recommended"?
[22:50] <apm1> David-A: both are :p
[22:51] <pantheon> there is no available additional drivers
[22:52] <David-A> apm1: to know what version of driver is best one needs to know very specifically what graphics card and chips there are. in this case, i think you can try both. try one, logout/login, try the other, logout/login, see what works best.
[22:53] <apm1> David-A: i can tell you my graphic card it's an raedon 6130 on an AMD e350
[22:55] <David-A> apm1: i don't have these. google and/or amd's site may help you find find the right version, but testing oneself is part of the joy. :)
[22:55] <apm1> David-A: will these drivers from system>additional drivers also install catalyst ?
[22:56] <apm1> David-A: what if both of them don't work as i intend them to ? any other places to install from except the repos ?
[22:57] <pantheon> so, how i can fix my problem described above?
[22:58] <apm1> David-A: need to reboot , see you in 5 mins
[22:58] <David-A> apm1: if you can find later version on amd's site than the versions in the repos, but you must check that it is appropriate for your hardware.