[00:23] after i download the torrent for xubuntu how do i install it? im using ubuntu right now. [00:35] after i download the torrent for xubuntu how do i install it? im using ubuntu right now. [00:36] system - startup disc creator, but you should be able to upgrade directly from the os [00:36] ok [00:36] how [00:36] oh nvm ubuntu - xubuntu [00:36] yeah [00:36] so what do i do? [00:36] xubuntu-desktop package would be easier [00:37] where is that at? [00:37] then choose xubuntu at the login screen [00:37] no need for a separate iso [00:37] one link http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-xfce-xubuntu-on-ubuntu-linux/ [00:37] sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [00:37] ^ [00:38] wolfgang__, just do that while in ubuntu [00:38] ok [00:38] log out afterwards, then choose xubuntu from the login window [00:38] will that install the whole os? [00:38] yes [00:39] ok [00:39] xubuntu is the xfce shell for ubuntu, you'll still have the other ones there [00:39] you can do that with lubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and so on [00:39] I think? [00:39] well the DE, not the shell, strictly speaking [00:39] Desktop Environment [00:40] wolfgang__: here's another one http://askubuntu.com/questions/64241/how-do-i-switch-to-xubuntu [00:40] whats the difference? [00:41] i want to partition can i do that with the howtogeek? [00:41] just says about not-removing gnome and some things you might be interested in [00:41] some different default apps, as well as themes, look and feel [00:41] ok [00:41] i want to partition can i do that with the howtogeek? [00:41] why do you want to partition [00:42] hmm [00:42] good point [00:42] :) [00:42] i just want something to run faster [00:42] xubuntu will right? [00:42] it might [00:42] ok [00:44] btw., might as well make a usb or disc livecd with that iso you downloaded [00:44] in case something goes wrong [00:44] ok how? [00:44] i have a blank cd [00:45] not sure if Ubuntu has the Startup Disc Creator, or if it's a different util [00:45] *Disk [00:46] what do i do check dash home? [00:46] its there [00:46] geez I'm just retarded with the stuff I type - I'm looking at it now and it seems to be only for USB sticks [00:46] Ok [00:47] i dont know if i can really spare one [00:47] i need the only two i have [00:47] looks like this is it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto [00:48] for disks? [00:48] yeah [00:48] ok [00:48] and '5. Select the write speed. If you are burning a Ubuntu Live CD (one that you may want to boot from), it is recommended that you write at the lowest possible speed. ' [00:52] does anyone can tell me how can i run a program that dont has a installer over the Run Command Alt+F2? [00:53] do any of you guys use mutt? [00:53] my comp froze whale still installing [00:53] now its all wierd [00:53] what do i do? [00:54] it loads the xubuntu start up screen then has ubuntu [00:54] wolfgang--_: is that the extent of "weird"? [00:54] pretty much [00:54] lol [00:54] does anyone can tell me how can i run a program that dont has a [00:54] installer over the Run Command Alt+F2? [00:55] did you alt+f4 logout and then select xubuntu from the login?.. [00:55] no i my comp froze [00:55] oh :( [00:55] so i hard shut off it was all i could do [00:55] so now its partly installed but not all the way [00:56] now what? [00:56] hanslanda: not sure what you mean [00:56] sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop ? [00:56] wolfgang--_: um, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop? [00:56] wolfgang--_: I'd be afraid to venture a guess [00:57] vladimir, ive installed BitchX for example, the folder is /home/user/Downloads/BitchX [00:57] so then what do i do? [00:57] wolfgang--_: that's how i went from ubuntu to xubuntu [00:57] so everytime i need to run it i need to go to that folder to execute the program [00:57] cant i make a shortcut or in the alt+f2 screen run it? [00:57] hanslanda: you can make a ~/bin dir, put a symlink to the installed program, and add ~/bin to your path in .profile [00:58] hanslanda: create launcher from the desktop, that should work (right-click menu) [00:58] that too [00:58] nyRednek...how can i do that? can u give me the steps? [00:58] should i try sudoapt-get remove xubuntu-desktop ? what would go wrong? [00:58] wolfgang--_: it won't do much...it's a meta-package that depends on a bunch of other packages [00:59] so just install again? [00:59] nyRednek i dont know what a symlink means or how to create that [00:59] hanslanda: symlinks are uses of the ln command [00:59] wolfgang--_: yea, try alt+f4 to log out and clear your session (for whatever hung it), log back in and do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [00:59] and cross your fingers :) [01:00] well, ln with the -s option [01:00] what? [01:00] i already restarted comp [01:00] what v1adimir said is easier [01:00] restarting doesn't really mean anything, the session might get carried over [01:00] nyRednek so i have to do ln -s /home/user/Downloads/BitchX/BitchX /bin/BitchX? [01:00] sudo apt-get update [01:00] oh [01:00] this is xchat [01:01] wolfgang--_: ok, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [01:01] hanslanda: nope [01:01] hanslanda: you make a /home/user/bin dir [01:01] hanslanda: that's the established way of handling binaries inside your home dir [01:01] mkdir /home/user/bin dir [01:01] after this...what so? [01:02] hanslanda: yes, then ln -s sourceFile destinationFile [01:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1188076/ [01:02] and make sure $HOME/bin is part of your PATH statement in $HOME/.profile [01:03] you can test that by running echo $PATH [01:03] wolfgang--_: do you have really fast internet? [01:03] Yesh [01:03] *yes [01:03] nyRednek how can i edit the PATH? [01:03] well [01:03] comcst [01:03] ok so maybe it did install, just logout and try to select xubuntu from the login screen [01:03] xfinity [01:03] with belkin router [01:04] so im pretty sure its fast [01:04] hanslanda: well, usually, your .profile or .cshrc set your $PATH [01:04] have you got autologin enabled? [01:04] ? [01:04] auto login? [01:04] when you boot the computer, is there a login screen before you get into the os - or does it go straight to desktop? [01:05] login screen [01:05] ok so there should be a dropdown, where you can select xubuntu, did you try that? [01:05] i looked for one [01:05] couldnt find one [01:06] ok sec [01:07] wolfgang--_: i'm not familiar with plain ubuntu, does your login screen look something like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1694837 where you can pick the session you want to start [01:07] no [01:07] hm [01:08] should i log out and look for one again? [01:08] the rest of that thread mentions about "gdm" not being installed, maybe that's the case [01:08] ok [01:08] what do i do? [01:09] lightdm/gdm there's that issue also; because there's 2 of them [01:09] So what do i do? [01:09] also this installes the whole os right? [01:10] not sure, someone else may need to help :s [01:10] wolfgang--_: it will install all xubuntu that is not part of ubuntu [01:10] wolfgang--_: they do have common packages, you know [01:10] yep [01:10] so what do i do? [01:11] i want it because its more light weight [01:11] show us a screenshot of your login window [01:11] how? [01:11] prtscrn button [01:11] just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and it won't run the gnome desktop unless you request it [01:11] brb after i log out [01:12] wolfgang--_, are you using MINT or something? [01:12] ubuntu [01:12] 12.04 [01:12] brb [01:14] Found it [01:14] it was in a diffent spot! [01:14] different than the howtogee [01:14] different than the howtogeek [01:14] thank you [01:14] found the xubuntu session? [01:14] Yes [01:14] nice! [01:14] it will be more light weight right? [01:15] should be :) [01:15] yay [01:15] \o/ [01:15] thank you so much ill let you know how it works out if i see you on here again [01:15] Bey [01:15] np, gl [01:15] what does gl mean? [01:15] hehe good luck =) [01:15] oh ok thank you bey [01:20] i didnt want all the same files. what can i do about that? [01:21] are you still here? [01:22] yea but it's complicated ;p [01:22] aw [01:22] you would have to make space for new partitions and so on [01:22] how long does that take? [01:23] to have it as a separate os [01:23] so [01:23] im sol? [01:23] it's not long, just not sure I'm the right person to help out with that [01:23] ok [01:23] Is anyone else here? [01:24] hello? [01:24] wait [01:24] couldnt i make another user account? [01:24] wouldnt that work? [01:24] uh probably xD [01:25] awesome [01:25] thats simple [01:25] im admin of this comp so i can do that [01:25] :) [01:27] there [01:27] thank you once again bey [02:00] heh, i passed out [02:00] w/b ;p [02:06] v1adimir: heh, i pass out all the time...nothing really special about it [02:06] :) [02:33] my dad says i can only have 1 os is xubuntu-desktop a seperate os? [02:54] if i have ubuntu then i got xubuntu-desktop is that a different os? [03:03] hi, i have a problem with libreoffice, i just doesnt respond, if i run 'libreoffiice' from terminal , nothing happens, no output. I tried reinstalling, but no change, what can i do? [03:06] TPB bro [03:07] TPB bro [03:08] hello? [03:08] TPB bro? [03:08] The peanut butter? [03:09] sorry i cant really help [03:09] im new to xubuntu [03:09] maybe run it withought terminal? [03:09] Just click it? [03:10] wolfgang__, it didnt work so i ran it through terminal to see if any errors come up....c'mon [03:10] lol [03:10] um [03:11] what command did you use? [03:11] libreoffice [03:11] try ./libreoffice [03:12] libreoffice --writer [03:12] ok [03:12] ./ libreoffice\ writer [03:12] ? [03:12] dude, don't worry about it.. [03:12] ok sorry [03:13] i'll try #libreoffice [03:13] Just try and help a guy out... all i did *sniff *sniff [03:13] peace [03:13] And what do i get? *sniff sniff [04:00] Love oyu guys bye [05:10] I'm having trouble adding workspaces in compiz [05:14] I've added them but I should have 2 vertical and 2 horizontal but on my workspace display in the notification is showing a row [05:26] devnill, in ccsm? that refers to the cube sides, iirc [05:37] has anyone been having problems playing flash video in chrome and mozilla lately? [05:38] seems ever since adobe cut support, my videos have been randomly out of whack. [05:38] how can I get them back in whack? [05:39] does anyone can help me? I was trying to install Minecraft game and found a script to do all the work (install java and minecraft)...but now my desktop is all messed up...and i cant even see my wallpaper or the xfce panel...help please! (THE SCRIPT http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726735) [05:41] !crosspost | hanslanda [05:41] hanslanda: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [05:41] !imsorry | bazhang [06:06] does anyone can help me? I was trying to install Minecraft game and found a script to do all the work (install java and minecraft)...but now my desktop is all messed up...and i cant even see my wallpaper or the xfce panel...help please! (THE SCRIPT http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726735) [06:50] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12220740#post12220740 [08:37] What's the difference between ldm & lightdm? [08:40] Quite a bit, ldm is LTSP: http://ltsp.org/ [08:40] so xubuntu uses lightdm with all the extra gnome dependancies? [08:41] What extras? [08:41] if I select lightdm in the repos it wants to pull in a whole lot of dependencies [08:42] What if you install lightdm-gtk-greeter ? [08:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1188540/ [08:44] lightdm-gtk-greeter does not do that. That's a bit daft though [08:45] either you have all the gnome bling, i18n and accessibility support -- and that requires all the gnome libs, or you have a simple greeter -- decide [08:46] Lightdm was pulling in unity-greeter, which has a ton of depends. [08:46] alternatively one could re-implement all those gnome libs outside gnome to implement all that, but that would be just as heavy [08:46] I just htink the default should be the lightweight one [08:49] why does xubunut-desktop pull in ldm? [08:50] ignore that question, dunno where i saw that [08:50] * TheSheep obediently ignores [08:52] let me reboot and see if fixing my stupid mistakes yields correct desktop resolutions [08:55] grr, I can't get persistent nvidia settings in 12.10 [09:14] Whoohoo, nvidia config is now persistent upon reboot!!! [10:23] how do i install the proprietary nvidia drivers on ubuntu , i have a geforce 320m [10:23] *xubuntu [10:25] xubuntu is not suggesting a proprietary driver like ubuntu does :( [10:26] i tried searching in the repos with synaptic but there are weird version numbers :( [10:27] you have two options, you can install from the repos or you can get the newer ones from from the x-swat ppa http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat [10:27] mips1911: but which one from the repo ? [10:27] sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings works for the repos and if you enabled the ppa it will install the latest from there [10:28] * apm1 googles ppa [10:28] nvidia-current & nvidia-settings are the two packages you want [10:28] and the open/free drivers how should i uninstall them ? [10:29] ^i come from debian :) [10:31] I think it will automatically remove them when you install the propriatry ones or see http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/InstallNouveau [10:32] huh , ok [10:32] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [10:33] See this if nouveau is being used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Removing_Nouveau_.28advanced.2BAC8-expert_users.29 but it says "It's possible to remove it completely, but it is not necessary and therefore not recommended." so maybe just leave them! [10:34] mips1911: in debian if you don't remove the opensource drivers then it will keep running them even if you install the non-free binary drivers [10:34] apml, I can't speak for debian as I have not used in a while (I used cruncbang sometime back, squeeze) [10:35] i hope xubuntu being a derivate doesn't do the same [10:35] apml, no it won't, what applies to ubuntu applies to xubuntu [10:36] actually with nouveanu opengl is trash , i noticed it in gltron , so i hope the nonfree driver helps it :) [10:37] it should, I never use nouveau [10:37] only way to find out is to try [10:38] but one thing still bugs me if xubuntu = xfce+ubuntu , then how come it is not suggesting nonfree drivers when ubuntu is ? [10:38] although it is using a nonfree driver for my wifi ? [10:39] I dont know. [10:40] mips1911: then to whom should i ask , on the dev channel ? [10:41] mips1911: what nvidia gpu model do you have ? [10:41] 9600GT [10:41] how old is 9600gt ? [10:43] I'll can check for you but it does not really matter as the drivers support a whole range of models from older to newest [10:43] You installation options are basically http://paste.ubuntu.com/1188704/ [10:44] ok , i am currently downloading the drivers , and the settings package how do i use it ? [10:46] mips1911: how do i use the package "nvidia-settings" ? [10:46] 9600GT is from 2008, 320M is from 2010 and both are supported by the drivers in the repos & the newer ones on the z-swat ppa. See here for all supported models http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux-display-amd64-304.43-driver-uk.html [10:47] and the settings thing ? [10:47] you just run nvidia-settings from the menu or cli to change your settings [10:48] i have never played with gpu settings before so i am not sure what stuff should i change ? [10:50] well if you resolution is not right you can change it with nvidia-settings and it will save it to xorg.conf, you might not even need if you are running a single display, I have dual displays with different resolutions and I use nvidia-settings to setup the individual resolutions for the displays, as far as i know if you only have a single display the resolution is already correct [10:51] mips1911: ok thanks for your help , i will report after reboot :) [10:52] It also allows to do color corection/calibration to suite your display and other things like antialiasing, anisotropic filtering, texture quality, power profiles, cursor shadows etc [10:52] ok, I'll hang around [11:01] mips1911: awesome , it is working perfectly [11:01] I got a bit worried when you left as I realised you might have a lptop with optimus [11:02] mips1911: thank you so much :) [11:02] mips1911: what i have a laptop with optimus =-O [11:03] Usually nvidia drivers have a problem with optimus (dual GPU Intel+nvidia) [11:03] apm1, what's your CPU/GPU? [11:03] oh ah, no optimus ;) [11:03] mips1911: i have a 2010 macbookpro with only one nvidia geforce 320m [11:04] nvm then.. [11:04] i thought something with optimus worked OOTB :P [11:04] Ok then you are fine, phewwww :D [11:05] knome, has things changed? I recall optimus users needing something like bumblebee? [11:05] when i booted this time there was a nvidia logo , i have never seen that before ? [11:05] yes that's normal, you can disable it if you want [11:05] nah i like flashing :d [11:06] lol ok [11:06] mips1911, yeah, i believe it still needs bumblebee, but i also think it's slightly better now... [11:06] mips1911: thanks for your help :) [11:06] knome, ok. I would not know as i don't have optimus so never tried it [11:07] apml, no problemo [11:07] mips1911, me neither. a friend had it, and fixed his problem by writing a few more lines of driver/launcher code :P [11:07] knome, lol I'm not that clever [11:07] mips1911: are you using wine on 12.04.1 ? [11:07] mips1911, me neither... hopefully he is :P [11:08] apm1, I'm running 12.10 beta without wine so sorry can't help there [11:08] ^ i wanna play gta 3 on xubuntu 12.04.1 [11:09] apm1, check wine appdb if it's supported [11:09] apm1, if not, then i think you're pretty much out of luck :) [11:09] knome: it is platinum [11:10] apm1, then it should work.. with wine stuff, generally refer to the wine documentation [11:10] Platinum & Gold http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=936 so why don;t you give it a bash ;) [11:10] http://tuxoblog.blogspot.in/2006/10/how-to-run-gta-3-with-wine.html [11:11] That's really old but who knows [11:12] probably still valid. [11:12] gta3 is really old too. [11:12] wine hasn't changed too much either [11:13] maybe I should try wine with Homefront which i'm busy playing in win7 [11:13] huh windows machine , that part i can't do, as i have sworn to use only unix for the rest of my life :d [11:15] apm1, I game occasionally so instead of worrying about wine compatibility I just boot into win7 for my fix of gaming, does not get used for anything else [11:15] * apm1 investigates into winetricks [11:16] anyone using winetricks ? [11:18] does it not get installed by default when you install wine? [11:19] nope it is a frontend to wine [11:20] ^well a script [11:21] apm1 you can try the #winehq channel for wine related questions [11:22] mips1911: ok joining it [11:23] I'm starving, in the mood for a bunny chow [11:24] mips1911: ewww, i am a vegetarian [11:25] lol, it does not contain rabbit. I could be meat though or veg, I'm keen for a bean one [11:25] mips1911: beans are ok :p [11:31] gotta go now ttyl :p [11:33] Hello! Sorry for the newbie question but I have nowhere else to go at the moment. Does anyone know if thunar dropbox plugin is working at the moment? Cause I cant get it to run. [11:39] off to the shop to get a bean bunny chow, bbl [11:39] Hello! Sorry for the newbie question but I have nowhere else to go at the moment. Does anyone know if thunar dropbox plugin is working at the moment? Cause I cant get it to run. [12:46] how can I move all files of directory foo/* into . recursively? [12:49] .? [12:53] jola: This *should* work: find /path/to/foo/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} mv {} ./ [12:53] jola: if you know that the files don't have any spaces in them, you can just do: find /path/to/foo -type f -exec mv {} . \; [13:02] hello! [13:02] hi [13:02] i'm installing xubuntu on my old pc [13:02] yes [13:03] Nothing, I'm here just for kill time [13:03] oh ok, kill on [13:04] if you are into s&m try 12.10 :D [13:04] and help with testing [13:05] yes! i'm installing 12.10 right now [13:06] desktop or alternate iso? [13:07] desktop [13:07] how's the installer working for you? [13:08] yes i'm installing by a bootalble usb pen [13:08] is ubiquity (gui install interface) working ok though? [13:09] yes, I think [13:09] i'm near to the end of the process [13:11] ok complete [13:11] see you [13:12] ok [13:12] reboot and tell us what you think, there are a few bugs though [13:18] amp1 come right with wine? [13:18] no i am quite confused [13:19] be back in 30 mins [14:19] hi [14:19] where are the config files of the energy settings? [14:52] raven: what energy settings? [14:52] TheSheep timeouts for monitor for example [14:54] they are stored in xfconf [14:54] you can get to them with the settings editor [14:56] TheSheep i need any command line way [14:57] raven: xfconf [14:58] raven: you have xfconf-query for querying [14:58] raven: oh, and it can also set a value [14:59] ok tnx [14:59] raven: for example `xfconf-query -l -c xfce4-power-manager` will list the power manager-related properties you have [18:23] why does any version of ubuntu end picking a server not in my country when I tell them to find the best server? [18:23] Also, it really doesn't end being the best server. [18:27] blackgatonegro: would you like to konw how to edit the server config? [18:28] I just use the main server [18:28]