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mparilloCongrats on Beta-1. Sorry I missed the moment.00:28
bambeeapachelogger: 4 ssh keys ? on LP ?08:10
bambeeI see 3 keys here08:11
bambeeone per computer08:11
apacheloggerbambee: ftpmaster08:26
apacheloggerbambee: also if you are on quantal ... 4.9.1 needs testing from ninjas08:26
bambeeI am on precise at work, however my personal laptop is on quantal. I can test it this evening :)08:27
apacheloggergroovy08:27
bambeealso, I will probably look at quassel+kde-telepathy for notifications (see the last discussion with Riddell yesterday) in the train this evening, at least for upstream it would be nice to get these features imho08:28
bambeebecause it's very boring at work to get 25 notifications for 1 message, seriously08:29
apacheloggerthe one about message-indicator?08:30
apacheloggerand telepathy havign no message-indicator support?08:30
bambee--> be able to choose between indicator-message or kde notifications or both 08:31
apacheloggercause I don't wanna crush your dreams, but from what I was told it is architecturally not exactly trivial to make telepathy do message-indicator08:31
apacheloggerbambee: both sounds useless TBH08:31
bambee2. Add support for indicator-message in kde-telepathy 08:31
bambeeapachelogger: I disagree, you have two great notifications system, so you should be able to choose one of them...08:33
bambeeboth are useful in different cases...08:33
apacheloggerlike?08:34
bambeeindicator-message centralizes all notifications comding from IM client into one icon,  without flooding all the time with messages. 08:36
bambeecoming*08:37
bambeeit's discreet compared to knotifications...08:39
Riddellbambee: shadeslayer has looked into having kde-telepathy support message-indicator and found some problem with it10:08
bambeeah, really?10:08
bambeeI will first look into having optional notification support in quassel , I think10:09
Riddellbambee: there is a telepathy-message-indicator plugin which works, but it brings in large parts of gnome10:11
apacheloggerbambee, Riddell: david quickly explained the problem with m-i in ktp in some mail thread, probably the one on kubuntu-devel from may or so10:51
BluesKajhiyas all13:09
smartboyhwHiyas13:09
BluesKajwhat's happening ?13:10
smartboyhwNothing I think13:10
smartboyhwwell hi I wanna contribute:)13:11
smartboyhw:)13:13
Riddellsmartboyhw: ooh you're into helping kubuntu?13:17
smartboyhwOOH yes LOL13:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: what are you into?  coding or testing or packaging or writing or supporting?13:17
smartboyhwOption 2 mostly, 4 and 5 too 13:18
smartboyhwI do have a lot of experience in testing13:19
Riddellsmartboyhw: tried beta 1?13:19
smartboyhwRiddell: Sorry got caught away with Ubuntu Studio:)13:19
smartboyhwHAHAHA13:21
smartboyhwRiddell: ?13:21
RiddellI wonder how to add you to the testers call13:23
smartboyhwRiddell: Why? I do do a lot of testing:013:24
Riddellubottu: no, testers-#kubuntu-devel is <reply> Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw13:24
Riddellsmartboyhw: now we can ask you on demand :)13:24
smartboyhwOh yeah!!!LOL13:24
smartboyhw!testers13:25
ubottuTesting help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, em13:25
smartboyhwNo doesn't work13:25
tsimpson!testers-#kubuntu-devel is <reply> Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw13:25
ubottuBut testers-#kubuntu-devel already means something else!13:25
tsimpson!no testers-#kubuntu-devel is <reply> Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw13:25
ubottuI'll remember that tsimpson13:25
smartboyhw!testers13:25
ubottuTesting help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw13:25
tsimpsonbetter13:25
smartboyhwOK now it works!:)13:25
soeeok, testers tested i can confirm13:26
Riddellsmartboyhw: all these new features need testing https://wiki.kubuntu.org/QuantalQuetzal/Beta1/Kubuntu13:26
smartboyhwOh OK13:26
debfxthere are still a bunch of issues in 4.9.1: http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/4.9.1.htm13:42
BluesKajlightdm on kubuntu 12.10 just keeps crashing here. I think there should be a second look at it. Kdm works fine . :P13:44
smartboyhw;P13:45
smartboyhw!dev13:45
ubottuInterested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment13:45
smartboyhwRiddell: Help I am having a problem with my VirtualBox internet connectivity and now it stucks at retrieving file 43 of 11713:55
smartboyhwping Riddell13:56
Riddellsmartboyhw: actually networking on virtualbox doesn't work for me currently13:58
Riddelland I don't know why, let me know if you find out13:58
smartboyhwAH I know, I just go and install the Kubuntu packages!13:58
RiddellBluesKaj: hmm, I don't suppose a backtrace appears?14:02
BluesKajno Riddell , it doesn't even load , the boot process stops and I have to login with the tty and then startx14:04
Riddelloh so probably something in the logs /var/log/lightdm14:04
BluesKajRiddell, http://pastebin.com/fSw8Mgmn14:11
Riddell"Failed to start greeter" ok not a simple issue then14:14
Riddelldunno, ask in #lightdm-kde14:14
BluesKajRiddell, I'm happy with kdm , think I'll stick with it for a while 14:16
alleebeta1 mentions kubuntu active.  But download section give no hint where to find it.14:24
Riddellallee: it's in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/releases/quantal/beta-1/14:26
Riddellwhere are you looking?14:26
alleeRiddell: sorry, I've found them already but I noticed that there no LINK in the beta1 announcement.  I had  to google for it.  So: please as a link for others 14:29
alleeoh, I it's in the wiki not kubuntu.org .  So I fix it myself14:37
Riddellallee: thanks :)14:39
smartboyhwRiddell: I will test it tmr. Installed kubuntu-full in 12.10 but I don't wanna reboot14:40
alleefix.  added the download link in the section about kubuntu active.  That's prominent enough for a tech preview :-)14:46
BluesKajRiddell, lightdm , is back on track after a 2nd reboot after the large upgrade to 12.1014:46
BluesKajerr, large upgrade in 12.1014:50
shadeslayerI wonder if okular got fixed14:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: what's this about iPod support in the topic14:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: something in kdelibs is kaput14:58
shadeslayeroh oh oh14:58
shadeslayerI'll take that up14:58
apacheloggerso amarok goes like "wwaoh, what is an ipod?:14:58
* shadeslayer searches for iPod14:58
apacheloggeractually I think there is a bug about it14:58
apacheloggersome dep missing or something14:58
shadeslayerok, where does amarok usually show the iPod15:00
shadeslayerbecause the device notifier identifies it as a iPod15:00
apacheloggerI do not know15:01
apacheloggerif I owned an ipod I had fixed the issue already :P15:01
shadeslayer:P15:01
shadeslayerI have one of the newer ones15:01
shadeslayerapparently the had a exchange program, so I got it exchanged15:02
BluesKajamarok , couldn't find the external drive containing the music files , then when it did , it insisted on autplaying files at random ...it was so messed up . I just dumped it15:02
shadeslayer"When commiting track /home/shadeslayer/Music/Music/Music/Coldplay/Coldplay - Parachutes/12 - for you.mp3 with uid amarok-sqltrackuid://86190987044bd2adceaf7122d7e4f03e we detected that the same uid is already commited. This means that you most probably have duplicates in your collection folders. The offending track is /home/shadeslayer/Music/Music/Music/Coldplay/Coldplay - For You.mp3."15:03
shadeslayerwhy do you even want to show a user that error15:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.6.0-0ubuntu2 15:09
shadeslayerI think Riddell fixed it15:09
debfxyofel_: what's kdeartwork 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1.1 "Rebuild against 4.8 libraries" about?15:14
shadeslayerRiddell: yer fix works15:22
shadeslayeroh wait15:22
shadeslayerit says Invalid15:23
shadeslayerthough it works15:23
shadeslayerRiddell: apachelogger http://i.imgur.com/j5OwN.png15:23
shadeslayerwow, amarok is *buggy*15:24
Riddellgo me, I don't even remember fixing it15:24
shadeslayerheh http://i.imgur.com/G4hZm.png15:26
apacheloggerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/101344215:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1013442 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "kdelibs >= 4.8.3 should depend on media-player-info" [Undecided,New]15:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: fine, will take care of it on Monday15:27
yofel_debfx: for some strange reason kdeartwork 4.8.5 ~ppa1 was linked against libs from 4.915:30
yofel_making it uninstallable15:30
apacheloggerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/102322515:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023225 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "missing dependency in kdelibs" [Undecided,New]15:31
yofel_debfx: bug https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=precise&batch=10015:33
yofel_fail15:33
yofel_bug 103739215:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1037392 in Kubuntu PPA "kscreensaver depends on libkexiv2-11, which is not in Kubuntu Updates" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103739215:33
bulldog98allee: yes15:58
debfxyofel_: ah ok. though please don't add additional ~ppa changelog entries as that needs manual editing when uploading to the archive15:59
apacheloggeryofel_: still no problems with .1?15:59
bulldog98s/allee: yes/apachelogger still 2 ssh keys/16:00
kubotubulldog98 meant: "apachelogger still 2 ssh keys"16:00
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shadeslayerbleh16:11
shadeslayeris it just me or did the amd64+mac images not get updated for 12.04.116:11
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yofel_debfx: good point, will do so16:14
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yofelapachelogger: works fine for me, but debfx posted an updates status page which still shows errors16:16
yofel*updated16:16
yofelesp. missing files16:16
apacheloggerand who is going to fix those?16:25
yofelnot me as I'm going out in a bit - unless you don't mind me fixing them in ~4h16:27
apachelogger*shrug*16:27
apacheloggerperhaps it ought to be documented16:27
apacheloggerjust a thought16:27
yofelshadeslayer: work ^16:28
yofelif really nobody gets to it I'll do it later16:28
Riddellshadeslayer: nobody tested them, same as beta 116:40
QuintasanRiddell, shadeslayer: no sponsorship for me17:01
shadeslayeryofel: apachelogger ok, fine, will do, and could someone point me to the status page?17:17
debfxshadeslayer: http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/4.9.1.htm17:18
shadeslayerthx17:18
shadeslayerdebfx: orage is missing files?17:19
debfxno, orange is warning and red is an error17:20
RiddellQuintasan: we have ways of fixing that17:21
shadeslayerok17:21
RiddellQuintasan: just ask kubuntu council17:21
shadeslayerI'll also upgrade to 4.9.1 to test stuff17:27
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: I clicked on full upgrade 3 times before I realized I needed to click on Apply changes in muon :P17:40
JontheEchidnalol, and people still get mad at me when they delete half their system for not reviewing the changes :D17:41
JontheEchidna*after not reviewing17:41
shadeslayerhah :D17:41
shadeslayerit's a good feature, but coming from apt-get dist-upgrade, it's not immediately visible :)17:43
shadeslayeryay crash17:43
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: https://gist.github.com/0439f03f6c074ac5073a17:44
JontheEchidnahuh, weird17:44
shadeslayerindeed17:44
JontheEchidnaneedless to say, there's probably not much I can do about that one...17:45
shadeslayerhere's what I did, added the ninjas ppa to sources.list, refreshed using muon, muon complained about upgrading unsigned packages, I added key manually, hit upgrade, crash17:45
shadeslayeryeah17:45
JontheEchidnawell, I'll keep an eye out for similar reports at any rate, thanks17:45
* apachelogger actuall thinks shadeslayer has incompatible libs :P17:45
JontheEchidnapackage::state is called everywhere though. you would think it'd crash sooner17:46
shadeslayerapachelogger: hm, *maybe*17:46
JontheEchidnaeverywhere == PackageModel17:46
apacheloggerwell it did not crash when calling the function but inside the function17:46
shadeslayercan't exactly say since my system is a bit borked17:46
apacheloggerso if it goes a different if and then runs into kaput symbol that'd explain it17:47
* shadeslayer needs to downgrade to precise anyway17:47
apachelogger!info kmenuedit17:49
ubottukmenuedit (source: kde-workspace): XDG menu editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 252 kB, installed size 672 kB17:49
JontheEchidnalol: https://github.com/albertz/playground/blob/master/test_importearlyexit.py17:52
JontheEchidna"return from module"17:52
* apachelogger scratches head17:53
apacheloggeris that what happens when you had too much E?17:53
QuintasanRiddell: Do we need a Council meeting for that or something?17:55
shadeslayerheh18:01
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: #5  0x00007f3d2dfe28c5 in QApt::Package::shortDescription() const () from /usr/lib/libqapt.so.118:01
shadeslayernew crash :P18:02
JontheEchidnalol18:02
apacheloggerI tolds you18:02
shadeslayeryeah, seems a bit borked18:05
* ScottK thought "assume it's shadeslayer's fault" was standard policy?18:21
shadeslayer...18:21
ScottKIt certainly saves time.18:22
ScottKThat and we needed a replacement for "assume shadeslayer's busy with exams."18:22
JontheEchidnahehe18:23
shadeslayerScottK: maybe shadeslayer is waiting for exam results?18:24
ScottKWaiting implies non-business, so I don't think so.18:28
shadeslayerthe best I can come right now is shadeslayer is redditting/HN'ing/talking to friends on fb/G+18:35
JontheEchidnaspeaking of academics, I have to scoot along to my last class of the week.18:39
ScottKdebfx: Would you have time to add this to kamera and reupload: http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kamera/news/20120827T124743Z.html18:41
CIA-58[kde-runtime] Rohan Garg * 288 * debian/ (kde-runtime-data.install kde-runtime.install) Update install files19:14
debfxScottK: can do. is that bug #1023231?19:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023231 in kamera (Ubuntu) "kdeinit4 crashed with SIGSEGV in QListData::remove()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102323119:16
ScottKdebfx: It's at least a partial solution for it.19:16
ScottKLet's call it that.19:17
debfxScottK: the upstream bug is still NEW so it's not fixed in 4.9?19:19
mah454Hello 19:20
mah454How can change KDE default configurations ?19:20
debfxah actually it is fixed19:20
mah454change default panel , wallpaper , widgets , ...19:20
DF_Meyer_mah454: Phrase your question better. Try something along these lines: How can I create a custom live cd for distribution with a preconfigured plasma desktop. That will get yoy a good response19:21
shadeslayermah454: look into /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/19:21
shadeslayeras well as plasma desktop scripting19:21
shadeslayermore specifically : /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init19:22
mah454shadeslayer: How can customize it ? 19:23
mah454I need document19:23
shadeslayermah454: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting19:24
shadeslayerhas everything you need19:24
mah454ok19:24
mah454thank you :)19:24
shadeslayernp19:24
shadeslayerthe API is a bit under documented/convoluted19:24
shadeslayerso I'd suggest looking at kdeexamples as well19:24
ScottKdebfx: Dunno lisandro said he'd pushed the commit upstream.  May not have done anything in bugzilla.19:30
debfxyeah, the committer didn't use the proper format to close/cc the bug19:31
ScottKdebfx: I don't see meta-kde in the queue.19:33
ScottKDon't we need that?19:33
ScottKRejected the first kamera upload.19:33
debfxoh right, forgot about that one19:33
ScottKdebfx: Started.  Thanks for uploading: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.119:55
CIA-58[kdelibs] Rohan Garg * 429 * debian/libkdeui5.symbols Update symbols20:08
shadeslayerhm20:20
shadeslayerRiddell: so I'm trying to revert a released commit in bzr using bzr revert -r x ... but it doesn't seem to work20:20
shadeslayerthe file's contents are the same20:20
shadeslayerpffttt20:22
shadeslayernvm20:22
JontheEchidna"Better Business Bureau joekbarrett@comline.com" <- sounds legit20:24
JontheEchidnait's rare that gmail misses spam these days20:25
shadeslayerwhile BBB is a legit organization, that email surely isn't theirs :P20:25
JontheEchidnayup20:26
JontheEchidnamy spam folder autodeletes every 30 days, so I constantly have ~1000 mails in it at any given time20:26
JontheEchidnaevery week or two one will slip into my inbox20:26
CIA-58[kdelibs] Rohan Garg * 430 * debian/libkdeui5.symbols Fixup symbols on i386 as well20:26
CIA-58[kde-workspace] Rohan Garg * 679 * debian/ (3 files) Update symbols20:31
shadeslayer!find kolab.png20:37
ubottuPackage/file kolab.png does not exist in quantal20:37
CIA-58[kdepimlibs] Rohan Garg * 188 * debian/libakonadi-contact4.symbols Update symbols20:40
ScottKshadeslayer: The bot lies - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=kolab.png&mode=exactfilename&suite=quantal&arch=any20:40
shadeslayer:O20:40
shadeslayerI had a sneaking suspicion that the file was there20:41
shadeslayerthough not the same path ( which is what I was afraid of )20:41
CIA-58[kde-workspace] Rohan Garg * 680 * debian/kde-workspace-data.install Update install file21:14
shadeslayerkde-workspace ( all fixed, needs upload from bzr), kde-runtime (all fixed, uploaded to ninjas and bzr), kdelibs (symbols updated, has a missing file that needs to be installed, and then upload from bzr), kdepimlibs ( symbols updated, needs upload from bzr)21:19
shadeslayeryofel: ^21:19
shadeslayerhaven't touched anything else21:20
shadeslayertoo sleepy to continue and might mess something up21:20
shadeslayerok, I'll upload kde-workspace as well21:20
shadeslayernight21:23
shadeslayermmm, kde workspace rejected ... version is lower 21:27
shadeslayeryofel: ^ so workspace will need uploading afterall21:27
Riddellshadeslayer: revert is for uncommitted files, try uncommit22:17
Riddelluncommit then revert22:17
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1012550] qtsql: no drivers loaded (incomplete library paths?) @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1012550 (by Jonas T.)23:55

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