| === Logan_ is now known as k | ||
| ryaxnb | has ubuntu officially gone to dvd? | 01:45 |
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| ryaxnb | the new release is 800MB | 01:45 |
| natman | anyone been using telepathy in kubuntu12.10? hows it looking? how does it compare to kopete? | 01:46 |
| ryaxnb | i personally would recommend a 2GB image file size. | 01:47 |
| KRomeleoN | hey yall | 02:06 |
| arand | ryaxnb: over-sizing is an expected bug in alpha/beta afaik, I'm not sure if the maxsize was raised though, since it used to be the case that the oversizedness was pointed out on the cdimage page. | 02:07 |
| === IdleOne changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to #ubuntu+1, the channel for discussion of pre-release versions of Ubuntu. The next version of Ubuntu will be 12.10 with development codename Quantal Quetzal. | Beta1 Released http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ | ||
| ryaxnb | eh, 800MB is a lot of oversize | 02:13 |
| ryaxnb | it's worth noting if you switch to MODE1 you can fit 800MB on a CD | 02:14 |
| ryaxnb | (no error correction) | 02:14 |
| ryaxnb | most CDs can technically hold 800MB, if need be... ;) | 02:14 |
| ryaxnb | whether or not burning programs are adept at fitting 800MB on them is another matter | 02:14 |
| ryaxnb | anyway, on ebay, the prices for direct from china 100pk of CDs & DVDs are identical nowadays | 02:15 |
| ryaxnb | CDs are old things | 02:15 |
| ryaxnb | same with DVDRW 25pk vs CDRW 25pk | 02:15 |
| trism | ryaxnb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta1#Ubuntu (first sentence) | 02:17 |
| mike_sun | hi, I update my ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and there is no dash preview | 02:55 |
| mike_sun | when I click if the right button, the file is open, not show any preview | 02:56 |
| mike_sun | any idea? | 02:56 |
| mike_sun | hi, I have to enable dash preview on ubuntu 12.10 beta 1? because right click don't show any preview, just open the file | 03:19 |
| vega- | takes 3-4 sec for alt-tab to display the menu, blazingly fast ... | 05:34 |
| vega- | with 2 year old laptop, nvidia quadro nvs 160m and nvidia binary drivers | 05:35 |
| vega- | same with the thingie that opens from Windows key | 05:35 |
| vega- | also winkey-s and winkey-w functionality is dead slow, any way to improve this? | 05:39 |
| === trijntje_ is now known as trijntje | ||
| gnomefreak | why7 cant stuff be easy at 3am | 08:54 |
| smartboyhw | gnomefreak: !? | 08:59 |
| gnomefreak | i cant even send emails right. i need a smoke, brb | 09:03 |
| digidot | Are there plans for Ubuntu (Unity) to move from Compiz to Mutter? | 10:26 |
| digidot | Are there plans for Ubuntu (Unity) to move from Compiz to Mutter? | 10:26 |
| smartboyhw | Hey don't double post:) | 10:27 |
| smartboyhw | Isn't it moving to metacity!?!? | 10:27 |
| rochabk | hello everyone | 10:30 |
| rochabk | is ubuntu 12.10 beta 1 very unstable? | 10:30 |
| smartboyhw | Hello rochabk | 10:30 |
| smartboyhw | rochabk: It should NOT bd | 10:30 |
| smartboyhw | *be | 10:30 |
| smartboyhw | Since it has already been tested | 10:30 |
| digidot | smartboyhw: Sorry copy/paste mistake.. | 10:31 |
| smartboyhw | digidot: NP :) | 10:31 |
| rochabk | what are the common issues i might face | 10:31 |
| rochabk | yes NP:) | 10:31 |
| smartboyhw | rochabk: Well maybe you will get some bugs in certain apps | 10:31 |
| smartboyhw | Or crashes | 10:31 |
| rochabk | oH | 10:32 |
| smartboyhw | But at least you can USE it | 10:32 |
| rochabk | after I upgrade to beta 1 should I reinstall the older apps again | 10:33 |
| smartboyhw | rochabk: You mean from like 12.04? | 10:34 |
| smartboyhw | No! | 10:34 |
| rochabk | yes | 10:34 |
| smartboyhw | Oh alright you don't need to | 10:34 |
| rochabk | wow | 10:34 |
| rochabk | thats reliefing | 10:34 |
| smartboyhw | LOL it upgrades FOR you | 10:34 |
| rochabk | oh that really good | 10:35 |
| smartboyhw | Yeah! | 10:35 |
| smartboyhw | But then after upgrade | 10:35 |
| smartboyhw | remember to do a "sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" | 10:36 |
| rochabk | okes | 10:39 |
| smartboyhw | okes | 10:40 |
| Ejdesgaard | how can it be that eclipse-3.8-rc4 is in 12.10 software-center and not eclipse-4.2 ? | 10:49 |
| rochabk | Ejdesgaard: I think ubuntu keep certain build in their software database | 10:53 |
| rochabk | at the time of their release | 10:53 |
| Ejdesgaard | rochabk, I can't find any 3.8 release on eclipse.org... http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simultaneous_Release | 10:57 |
| rochabk | Ejdesgaard: I find the answers here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11322349/eclipse-3-8-where-is-the-download-site | 10:58 |
| Ejdesgaard | that explains it :) | 11:00 |
| pwuertz | Hi, I just upgraded to 12.10 and I cannot find the option for a compact view of the contact list anymore.. is it gone? | 11:07 |
| rochabk | pwuertz: can you explain more? | 11:17 |
| pwuertz | rochabk: yea.. I just joined the irc channel for epiphany | 11:17 |
| pwuertz | rochabk: seems they removed the compact layout for the chat contact list | 11:18 |
| rochabk | oH in epiphany | 11:18 |
| pwuertz | rochabk: ahh sorry.. empathy | 11:18 |
| rochabk | Ohmy I had not used Empathy | 11:20 |
| Ejdesgaard | I read "Switch off" as pulling the power cord... which is kindof misleading, when I want to shut down the computer | 11:25 |
| mortal | do you have sound problems on quantal? latest packages installed and both my eee pc and thinkpad laptops don't produce any sound | 11:38 |
| mortal | they both have intel audio | 11:38 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:49 |
| mortal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1047299 posted this | 11:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1047299 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Pulseaudio does not use audio hardware, has only pseudo output [quantal]" [Undecided,New] | 11:51 |
| BluesKaj | mortal, install pavucontrol i, it's the GUI part of pulse , and gives control over your inputs and out puts , also which audio chip does alsamixer show ? | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | puse is a soundserver that needs alsa to operate | 11:58 |
| BluesKaj | pulse | 11:58 |
| Bluefoxicy | hah | 12:27 |
| Bluefoxicy | I've upgraded but haven't yet rebooted and I restarted gnome-shell o.o | 12:27 |
| smartboyhw | Oh yeah? Reboot please | 12:27 |
| === xezexal is now known as SolarAquarion | ||
| Guest3894 | Has any one managed to install with disk encryption? When I tick the disk encryption box in the installer, I can't get past the next screen titled "Choose a security key". There are no dialog boxes to enter a key, and the Next button is not accessible. | 13:35 |
| ActionParsnip | not used i, too many headaches | 13:35 |
| ActionParsnip | *it | 13:35 |
| BluesKaj | dunno whythe devs insist on imposing lightdm on us , they could at least wait til it;s stable ...kdm works fine | 13:42 |
| ActionParsnip | its not imposed at all | 13:44 |
| ActionParsnip | its just installed by default | 13:44 |
| ActionParsnip | you can use kdm if yuo want | 13:44 |
| ActionParsnip | !info kdm quantal | 13:44 |
| ubottu | kdm (source: kde-workspace): KDE Display Manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 907 kB, installed size 2690 kB | 13:44 |
| ActionParsnip | BluesKaj: its just like any other app, if you don't like it, use something else | 13:45 |
| ActionParsnip | BluesKaj: I hate firefox, its been the default browser forever, I always remove it and install something I prefer | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | I am using kdm ..but lightdm shouldn't be default 'til it's stable | 13:45 |
| ActionParsnip | BluesKaj: seems stable here, never had an issue | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | you can't can't remove it only disable | 13:46 |
| tsimpson | BluesKaj: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/16560/desktop-o-kubuntu-lightdm/ has some discussion around that from the last UDS | 13:46 |
| ActionParsnip | for the sake of 2Mb, i'm sure we'll live | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | default is an imposition , when i doesn't work :) | 13:47 |
| ActionParsnip | BluesKaj: firefox doesn't work | 13:48 |
| ActionParsnip | thunderbird...really? | 13:48 |
| ActionParsnip | gedit is dog slow | 13:48 |
| ActionParsnip | BluesKaj: want me to continue? | 13:48 |
| ActionParsnip | BluesKaj: lightdm is a dep of ubuntu-desktop you could report a bug to make it optional and then the user can install the DM of their choice | 13:49 |
| BluesKaj | tsimpson, I'm on the single sighn in merry-go-round , Either you have not been granted access to this resource or your entitlement has timed out. Please try again. | 13:52 |
| tsimpson | I'll just pastebin it for you :) | 13:52 |
| BluesKaj | so nm , today is not starting out well :P | 13:52 |
| tsimpson | BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190841/ | 13:53 |
| jbicha | BluesKaj: you could ask for kdm to be an alternate dependency, lightdm is getting a lot more development these days & is a good choice for *buntu distros | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | jbicha, it was working until the last update/upgrade ...suppose i should have mentioned that , suddenly broke ..again , guess I should be grateful that kdm still works :) | 14:02 |
| Guest3894 | If i turn on disk encryption, what does it do when I "encrypt my home folder" during the initial user creation with the installer? | 14:33 |
| ironhalik | the encypt my home folder options creates an encrypted container in which your home folder resides | 14:38 |
| ironhalik | all your private data is encrypted and is accessible on login | 14:38 |
| ironhalik | but directories like /opt /etc in plain text | 14:39 |
| ironhalik | its a decent solution - almost no performance hit while nice security | 14:40 |
| ikonia | Guest3894: do you have secret data - and I do mean secret ? | 14:42 |
| ironhalik | like, lets say, one million apple UDIDs :> | 14:42 |
| ikonia | Guest3894: unless you have genuine sensitive data that pure permission control is not enough, don't use it, it's a managment overhead you do not need | 14:43 |
| ikonia | Guest3894: (you are of course welcome to ignore that advice) | 14:43 |
| ironhalik | ikonia: well, on a laptop that can be easily stolen, browser cookies can be enough of a sensitive data | 14:44 |
| ironhalik | and home folder encryption is pretty much transparent | 14:44 |
| BluesKaj | my apologies , ActionParsnip , tsimpson , jbicha , lightdm works again after another reboot ,,,odd that it didn't load on reboot after the large upgrade the first time | 14:45 |
| ikonia | I'm sorry, cookies are not sensitive data, they are of little concern | 14:47 |
| ikonia | but if you feel the need - do it. | 14:47 |
| ActionParsnip | BluesKaj: good ol windows method :) | 14:47 |
| ActionParsnip | BluesKaj: don't sweat it btw it's all gooooood | 14:48 |
| BluesKaj | ActionParsnip, double reboots :) | 14:48 |
| Guest3894 | ikonia and ironhalik does a default ubuntu partition scheme have a separate partition for /home? because otherwise /home is already encrypted when i chose to encrypt the disk | 14:48 |
| ActionParsnip | Guest3894: default partitioning is one single partition for / and one for swap | 14:48 |
| Guest3894 | ActionParsnip: right, so asking me if i want to encrypt my user dir is redundant after i have encrypted the partition | 14:49 |
| ironhalik | true | 14:49 |
| Guest3894 | i suppose if you want each of your users to have an encrypted home dir that would be something... | 14:50 |
| Guest3894 | also the install just finished and whatever it did grub can't find it lol | 14:50 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| user_ | can i have more than 4 workspaces in Unity ? | 17:25 |
| trism | user_: yes, you can configure them in ccsm on the general tab | 17:35 |
| === Jikan is now known as Jikai | ||
| brot | soo, am i currently the only one who has problems installing a new version of linux-image? | 17:55 |
| brot | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 17:56 |
| brot | linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.5.0-14-generic but it is not installable | 17:56 |
| trism | brot: -14 is still in proposed, and stuck in the NEW queue, so linux-meta (linux-image-generic) is ready but not linux (linux-image-3.5.0-14-generic) | 17:59 |
| IdleOne | in other words, just wait a little while and it will be there soon | 18:02 |
| IdleOne | soon ~= 1 minute up to 1 year | 18:02 |
| trism | *nods* | 18:03 |
| brot | mmh, i wonder when i started to use the proposed thingys | 18:06 |
| brot | i thought those get disabled while starting the 12.04 -> 12.10 upgrade | 18:06 |
| IdleOne | brot: you aren't using the proposed repo, before a package gets put into the repositories it goes into a "proposed" queue waiting to be approved. | 18:09 |
| IdleOne | these types of dependency issues are common during the dev cycle and usually resolve themselves fairly quickly | 18:09 |
| brot | disabled proposed repo, everything works like it should | 18:12 |
| brot | thanks :) | 18:12 |
| IdleOne | lol, ok. | 18:13 |
| brot | ( i needed to resolve that as i did some housekeeping and deleted every linux-image <3.5 :) | 18:13 |
| === Supersaiyan_IV is now known as matrixa1 | ||
| marcappuccino | Does anyone know whether the new window minimize and unminimize animations in Quantal beta 1 will be permenant? | 20:23 |
| ChaosEngine | greetings | 20:27 |
| ChaosEngine | Got funny issue under VirtualBox and U12.10 as a guest | 20:28 |
| ChaosEngine | Fres install finishes with empty deskltop and some error popped-out | 20:28 |
| ChaosEngine | no compiz, no window, nuthing | 20:29 |
| ChaosEngine | Updatre-SoftwareCenter crashed with DBusException in _new__();...... | 20:29 |
| ChaosEngine | and I can only start reboot-looop-to-the same error | 20:30 |
| ChaosEngine | ok, scratch all that before taht came from me, everything worx | 21:18 |
| ChaosEngine | I'v got some earlier borked CD which had this problem, and in bet i'ts obviously fixed. | 21:19 |
| ChaosEngine | Sorry 4 the inconvinience ;-> | 21:20 |
| Morgawr | hello everyone.. I'm trying to run the new ubuntu beta (12.10) on a kvm virtual machine just to see how it goes.. however when I go installing it it says that it fails on the step "Select and Install Software" after asking me what type of updates I want to use (automatic, manual, etc etc) | 21:27 |
| Morgawr | is this a known issue? | 21:27 |
| taowa | After Quetzal what is the codename | 21:40 |
| Daekdroom | taowa, it has not been decided yet | 21:43 |
| taowa | OK | 21:46 |
| Flumpy | Why did the most recent upgrade install gdm? | 23:11 |
| ChogyDan | aptitude why gdm | 23:16 |
| jbicha | Flumpy: because gnome-shell won't run if you don't have gdm installed | 23:18 |
| Flumpy | jbicha: Huh. Is that new? I haven't needed it before. | 23:19 |
| jbicha | the need for gdm is new, yes | 23:20 |
| Flumpy | Oh, okay, thanks. | 23:20 |
| jbicha | it might be possible to split libgdm into a separate package | 23:20 |
| Flumpy | I'm not going to try to force it, I was just curious. | 23:21 |
| jbicha | but if you want the lock screen to actually lock, you'll currently need to not only have gdm installed but have it as default | 23:21 |
| jbicha | yeah, it looks like Fedora is fine with only depending on the gdm library, I'll look into that | 23:42 |
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