=== Logan_ is now known as k [01:45] has ubuntu officially gone to dvd? [01:45] the new release is 800MB [01:46] anyone been using telepathy in kubuntu12.10? hows it looking? how does it compare to kopete? [01:47] i personally would recommend a 2GB image file size. [02:06] hey yall [02:07] ryaxnb: over-sizing is an expected bug in alpha/beta afaik, I'm not sure if the maxsize was raised though, since it used to be the case that the oversizedness was pointed out on the cdimage page. === IdleOne changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to #ubuntu+1, the channel for discussion of pre-release versions of Ubuntu. The next version of Ubuntu will be 12.10 with development codename Quantal Quetzal. | Beta1 Released http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ [02:13] eh, 800MB is a lot of oversize [02:14] it's worth noting if you switch to MODE1 you can fit 800MB on a CD [02:14] (no error correction) [02:14] most CDs can technically hold 800MB, if need be... ;) [02:14] whether or not burning programs are adept at fitting 800MB on them is another matter [02:15] anyway, on ebay, the prices for direct from china 100pk of CDs & DVDs are identical nowadays [02:15] CDs are old things [02:15] same with DVDRW 25pk vs CDRW 25pk [02:17] ryaxnb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta1#Ubuntu (first sentence) [02:55] hi, I update my ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and there is no dash preview [02:56] when I click if the right button, the file is open, not show any preview [02:56] any idea? [03:19] hi, I have to enable dash preview on ubuntu 12.10 beta 1? because right click don't show any preview, just open the file [05:34] takes 3-4 sec for alt-tab to display the menu, blazingly fast ... [05:35] with 2 year old laptop, nvidia quadro nvs 160m and nvidia binary drivers [05:35] same with the thingie that opens from Windows key [05:39] also winkey-s and winkey-w functionality is dead slow, any way to improve this? === trijntje_ is now known as trijntje [08:54] why7 cant stuff be easy at 3am [08:59] gnomefreak: !? [09:03] i cant even send emails right. i need a smoke, brb [10:26] Are there plans for Ubuntu (Unity) to move from Compiz to Mutter? [10:26] Are there plans for Ubuntu (Unity) to move from Compiz to Mutter? [10:27] Hey don't double post:) [10:27] Isn't it moving to metacity!?!? [10:30] hello everyone [10:30] is ubuntu 12.10 beta 1 very unstable? [10:30] Hello rochabk [10:30] rochabk: It should NOT bd [10:30] *be [10:30] Since it has already been tested [10:31] smartboyhw: Sorry copy/paste mistake.. [10:31] digidot: NP :) [10:31] what are the common issues i might face [10:31] yes NP:) [10:31] rochabk: Well maybe you will get some bugs in certain apps [10:31] Or crashes [10:32] oH [10:32] But at least you can USE it [10:33] after I upgrade to beta 1 should I reinstall the older apps again [10:34] rochabk: You mean from like 12.04? [10:34] No! [10:34] yes [10:34] Oh alright you don't need to [10:34] wow [10:34] thats reliefing [10:34] LOL it upgrades FOR you [10:35] oh that really good [10:35] Yeah! [10:35] But then after upgrade [10:36] remember to do a "sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [10:39] okes [10:40] okes [10:49] how can it be that eclipse-3.8-rc4 is in 12.10 software-center and not eclipse-4.2 ? [10:53] Ejdesgaard: I think ubuntu keep certain build in their software database [10:53] at the time of their release [10:57] rochabk, I can't find any 3.8 release on eclipse.org... http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simultaneous_Release [10:58] Ejdesgaard: I find the answers here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11322349/eclipse-3-8-where-is-the-download-site [11:00] that explains it :) [11:07] Hi, I just upgraded to 12.10 and I cannot find the option for a compact view of the contact list anymore.. is it gone? [11:17] pwuertz: can you explain more? [11:17] rochabk: yea.. I just joined the irc channel for epiphany [11:18] rochabk: seems they removed the compact layout for the chat contact list [11:18] oH in epiphany [11:18] rochabk: ahh sorry.. empathy [11:20] Ohmy I had not used Empathy [11:25] I read "Switch off" as pulling the power cord... which is kindof misleading, when I want to shut down the computer [11:38] do you have sound problems on quantal? latest packages installed and both my eee pc and thinkpad laptops don't produce any sound [11:38] they both have intel audio [11:49] Hiyas all [11:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1047299 posted this [11:51] Launchpad bug 1047299 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Pulseaudio does not use audio hardware, has only pseudo output [quantal]" [Undecided,New] [11:57] mortal, install pavucontrol i, it's the GUI part of pulse , and gives control over your inputs and out puts , also which audio chip does alsamixer show ? [11:58] puse is a soundserver that needs alsa to operate [11:58] pulse [12:27] hah [12:27] I've upgraded but haven't yet rebooted and I restarted gnome-shell o.o [12:27] Oh yeah? Reboot please === xezexal is now known as SolarAquarion [13:35] Has any one managed to install with disk encryption? When I tick the disk encryption box in the installer, I can't get past the next screen titled "Choose a security key". There are no dialog boxes to enter a key, and the Next button is not accessible. [13:35] not used i, too many headaches [13:35] *it [13:42] dunno whythe devs insist on imposing lightdm on us , they could at least wait til it;s stable ...kdm works fine [13:44] its not imposed at all [13:44] its just installed by default [13:44] you can use kdm if yuo want [13:44] !info kdm quantal [13:44] kdm (source: kde-workspace): KDE Display Manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 907 kB, installed size 2690 kB [13:45] BluesKaj: its just like any other app, if you don't like it, use something else [13:45] BluesKaj: I hate firefox, its been the default browser forever, I always remove it and install something I prefer [13:45] I am using kdm ..but lightdm shouldn't be default 'til it's stable [13:46] BluesKaj: seems stable here, never had an issue [13:46] you can't can't remove it only disable [13:46] BluesKaj: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/16560/desktop-o-kubuntu-lightdm/ has some discussion around that from the last UDS [13:46] for the sake of 2Mb, i'm sure we'll live [13:47] default is an imposition , when i doesn't work :) [13:48] BluesKaj: firefox doesn't work [13:48] thunderbird...really? [13:48] gedit is dog slow [13:48] BluesKaj: want me to continue? [13:49] BluesKaj: lightdm is a dep of ubuntu-desktop you could report a bug to make it optional and then the user can install the DM of their choice [13:52] tsimpson, I'm on the single sighn in merry-go-round , Either you have not been granted access to this resource or your entitlement has timed out. Please try again. [13:52] I'll just pastebin it for you :) [13:52] so nm , today is not starting out well :P [13:53] BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190841/ [14:00] BluesKaj: you could ask for kdm to be an alternate dependency, lightdm is getting a lot more development these days & is a good choice for *buntu distros [14:02] jbicha, it was working until the last update/upgrade ...suppose i should have mentioned that , suddenly broke ..again , guess I should be grateful that kdm still works :) [14:33] If i turn on disk encryption, what does it do when I "encrypt my home folder" during the initial user creation with the installer? [14:38] the encypt my home folder options creates an encrypted container in which your home folder resides [14:38] all your private data is encrypted and is accessible on login [14:39] but directories like /opt /etc in plain text [14:40] its a decent solution - almost no performance hit while nice security [14:42] Guest3894: do you have secret data - and I do mean secret ? [14:42] like, lets say, one million apple UDIDs :> [14:43] Guest3894: unless you have genuine sensitive data that pure permission control is not enough, don't use it, it's a managment overhead you do not need [14:43] Guest3894: (you are of course welcome to ignore that advice) [14:44] ikonia: well, on a laptop that can be easily stolen, browser cookies can be enough of a sensitive data [14:44] and home folder encryption is pretty much transparent [14:45] my apologies , ActionParsnip , tsimpson , jbicha , lightdm works again after another reboot ,,,odd that it didn't load on reboot after the large upgrade the first time [14:47] I'm sorry, cookies are not sensitive data, they are of little concern [14:47] but if you feel the need - do it. [14:47] BluesKaj: good ol windows method :) [14:48] BluesKaj: don't sweat it btw it's all gooooood [14:48] ActionParsnip, double reboots :) [14:48] ikonia and ironhalik does a default ubuntu partition scheme have a separate partition for /home? because otherwise /home is already encrypted when i chose to encrypt the disk [14:48] Guest3894: default partitioning is one single partition for / and one for swap [14:49] ActionParsnip: right, so asking me if i want to encrypt my user dir is redundant after i have encrypted the partition [14:49] true [14:50] i suppose if you want each of your users to have an encrypted home dir that would be something... [14:50] also the install just finished and whatever it did grub can't find it lol === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:25] can i have more than 4 workspaces in Unity ? [17:35] user_: yes, you can configure them in ccsm on the general tab === Jikan is now known as Jikai [17:55] soo, am i currently the only one who has problems installing a new version of linux-image? [17:56] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [17:56] linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.5.0-14-generic but it is not installable [17:59] brot: -14 is still in proposed, and stuck in the NEW queue, so linux-meta (linux-image-generic) is ready but not linux (linux-image-3.5.0-14-generic) [18:02] in other words, just wait a little while and it will be there soon [18:02] soon ~= 1 minute up to 1 year [18:03] *nods* [18:06] mmh, i wonder when i started to use the proposed thingys [18:06] i thought those get disabled while starting the 12.04 -> 12.10 upgrade [18:09] brot: you aren't using the proposed repo, before a package gets put into the repositories it goes into a "proposed" queue waiting to be approved. [18:09] these types of dependency issues are common during the dev cycle and usually resolve themselves fairly quickly [18:12] disabled proposed repo, everything works like it should [18:12] thanks :) [18:13] lol, ok. [18:13] ( i needed to resolve that as i did some housekeeping and deleted every linux-image <3.5 :) === Supersaiyan_IV is now known as matrixa1 [20:23] Does anyone know whether the new window minimize and unminimize animations in Quantal beta 1 will be permenant? [20:27] greetings [20:28] Got funny issue under VirtualBox and U12.10 as a guest [20:28] Fres install finishes with empty deskltop and some error popped-out [20:29] no compiz, no window, nuthing [20:29] Updatre-SoftwareCenter crashed with DBusException in _new__();...... [20:30] and I can only start reboot-looop-to-the same error [21:18] ok, scratch all that before taht came from me, everything worx [21:19] I'v got some earlier borked CD which had this problem, and in bet i'ts obviously fixed. [21:20] Sorry 4 the inconvinience ;-> [21:27] hello everyone.. I'm trying to run the new ubuntu beta (12.10) on a kvm virtual machine just to see how it goes.. however when I go installing it it says that it fails on the step "Select and Install Software" after asking me what type of updates I want to use (automatic, manual, etc etc) [21:27] is this a known issue? [21:40] After Quetzal what is the codename [21:43] taowa, it has not been decided yet [21:46] OK [23:11] Why did the most recent upgrade install gdm? [23:16] aptitude why gdm [23:18] Flumpy: because gnome-shell won't run if you don't have gdm installed [23:19] jbicha: Huh. Is that new? I haven't needed it before. [23:20] the need for gdm is new, yes [23:20] Oh, okay, thanks. [23:20] it might be possible to split libgdm into a separate package [23:21] I'm not going to try to force it, I was just curious. [23:21] but if you want the lock screen to actually lock, you'll currently need to not only have gdm installed but have it as default [23:42] yeah, it looks like Fedora is fine with only depending on the gdm library, I'll look into that