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bkerensacjohnston: lol what is this "Dear Mr Johnston, with all due respect, please leave my bugs alone!"00:16
bkerensa;p00:16
cjohnston?00:21
ajmitchjcastro: I'm trying to hit up archive admins that I know & can beg for favours01:31
jcastroI'd be happy to beg if you tell me who to beg to01:31
jcastroor which bug01:31
ajmitchhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1031886 is the LP bug, but it's sitting on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue01:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 1031886 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] unity-lens-help" [Wishlist,In progress]01:32
* ajmitch had asked in -release last week & talked with seb128, but he was busy01:32
ajmitchcurrently begging stevenk & offering beer01:32
ajmitchyou can see that it's not the only package blocked, hence laney posting to the -release mailing list about it yesterday01:34
ajmitchjcastro: I may have met with some success with bribes01:51
jcastroI sent a bribe email01:52
ajmitchjcastro: thanks, though it was accepted about 30 seconds ago :)01:53
ajmitch13:52 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted unity-lens-help [source] (quantal-release) [1.6]01:53
jcastroaha01:57
jcastroawesome01:57
* ajmitch might need to stop off in sydney after LCA & drop off a beer or something01:59
nigelbajmitch: Only one beer? I'm sure stevenK will chase you all the way back to Dunedin ;)02:13
ajmitchprobably :)02:16
dholbachgood morning06:56
dholbachhola dpm06:56
dholbachdpm, com estàs?06:57
elfymorning dholbach06:57
dholbachhi elfy06:57
dpmbones dholbach, bé, gràcies :)06:57
dholbachdpm, the CC had a meeting with the ARB yesterday - maybe the log is going to be of interest for you06:59
dpmah, yeah, I'll have a look06:59
dholbachdpm, when you have a moment can you check if the packaging guide updater ran or if it failed? (sorry about that) I need to get an article I wrote online to fix some of our wiki docs and do an announcement07:07
dpmdholbach, here's the e-mail I got: https://pastebin.canonical.com/74013/07:11
dpmI'll try to re-run it manually07:11
dholbachthat's weird07:11
dpmdholbach, just ran it now: https://pastebin.canonical.com/74014/07:12
dpmI'm not sure everything went ok, it was quicker than usual07:13
dholbachperfect, the article is online07:13
dholbachno idea why the update failed :-(07:13
dholbachthanks in any case07:13
czajkowskimorning07:43
bkerensaczajkowski: you made it to friday07:48
bkerensa:)07:48
czajkowskiI did indeed07:51
czajkowskiafter a manic day yesterday07:51
czajkowskiand will be in the office tomrorow running a UGJ in London07:51
czajkowskiso sunday I plan on sleeping in07:51
czajkowskigah seriously when is the USA elections over,anothe rmorning of fb ranting about yer elections on my updates :/07:56
elfyczajkowski: I don't think they are ever over for them - it just starts again08:11
bkerensaczajkowski: Officially it will end in November but the losing party will complain about the results for the next four years :)08:21
bkerensaelfy: correct :) it is re-occuring like a cronjob :)08:22
elfybkerensa: so is it here - but les obviously so :)08:22
bkerensaelfy: Where is here?08:23
elfyUK08:23
czajkowskielfy: less than USA.08:23
czajkowskieven in .Ie we elect a president and that the end of it08:24
czajkowski7 years I think08:24
bkerensaczajkowski: nobody gets sour over it?08:24
elfy:)08:24
czajkowskibkerensa: no08:24
czajkowskithis is the first time we've had a bloke in at least 21 years.08:25
bkerensaheh08:25
bkerensaBut your elections don't generally result in horrible policies due to corrupt politicians either?08:25
czajkowskiah our national gov does08:26
bkerensafor some reason I am under the assumption that the UK's political scene is a bit more common sense08:26
bkerensahmm08:26
czajkowskithere is a reason we are in a recession08:26
bkerensaImmigration no?08:26
czajkowskihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ireland08:26
czajkowskibkerensa: welll yes due to the infaltion and taxes of last gov08:27
czajkowskiour president role is a lot different from yours08:27
nigelbYeah, american president is head of state and head of government.08:28
nigelbI'm guessing that Irish president is only Head of State.08:28
czajkowskiwho still has to approve legislation08:28
nigelbRight. Same here.08:28
nigelbI think both our systems inherit from UK.08:28
bkerensawow the term limits in Ireland are insane08:29
bkerensa>.<08:29
nigelbIs there a Prime Minister for Ireland?08:29
bkerensa1997-2011?08:29
czajkowskinigelb: a Taoiseach08:29
czajkowskiPrime minister is rather british :)08:30
nigelbczajkowski: Aha.08:30
nigelbhehe08:30
czajkowskibkerensa: so she served 2 terms, you're allowed do  that once.08:30
czajkowskias a term is 7 years08:30
bkerensanigelb: Well... President in U.S. is Head of State and Executive Branch of Government08:30
bkerensaOur president doesn't control all of the government08:30
smartboyhwWow politics...08:30
nigelbbkerensa: Well, it's not about control.08:30
nigelbMost other countries have two people doing the job that US President does.08:31
nigelbThe power is split to two people too.08:31
czajkowskialso our taoisheach is appointed by our president, so usually from the same political party08:31
nigelbah!08:31
nigelbThat's different from India then.08:31
nigelbit's the other way around for us.08:32
nigelbThe president is appointed by the ruling party.08:32
bkerensanigelb: Hmm and how is the ruling party determined?08:33
nigelbHighest number of seats in the Lok Sabha.08:33
czajkowskiwe have a coalition gov always have who ever is the main one leads and is our leader08:34
bkerensaDo people vote people into this Lok Sabha?08:34
nigelbNot only highest, but there's a threshold.08:34
nigelbSo, we tend to have coalition.08:34
nigelbbkerensa: Yep.08:34
bkerensanigelb: is the voting to elect to the Lok Sabha a popular vote?08:34
bkerensaor do you have a intermediary?08:34
nigelbbkerensa: Explain?08:35
bkerensaOk08:35
nigelbI lost you there.08:35
bkerensaSo in the U.S. we all vote for the President but our vote does not really count08:35
bkerensawe have a "Electoral College"08:35
nigelbOh?08:35
bkerensawhich is representatives who cast their own votes08:35
bkerensaand are not required in most states to follow what the popular vote is08:35
bkerensaso08:35
bkerensain 200008:35
bkerensaAl Gore was voted President if the Popular Vote counted08:36
nigelbah08:36
bkerensabut the Electoral College ignored what Americans decided and voted Bush into office08:36
bkerensa:)08:36
nigelbTIL08:36
nigelbso, there's a Member of parliament for each region in India.08:36
bkerensaah08:37
nigelbWe vote for the individual who's going to be a member from our region.08:37
nigelbDepending on which party he's affliated with, a ruling party/coalition is decided.08:37
nigelbAnd they get to decide who's going to be prime minister, etc.08:37
bkerensaI guess thats good08:38
nigelbWe don't get to choose the PM, but I thought you guys did.08:38
bkerensaThat would be like our Congress choosing our President08:38
nigelbI didn't realize there was a popular vote vs electoral college.08:39
czajkowskiwe vote in our area there could be up to 12 or more candiates you rank them 1,2,3 etc and those who make quorum are elected. tis kinda simple08:39
nigelbIt'll be like the winning party in the Congress choosing the president.08:39
bkerensanigelb: nope not really... Officially we do not the Electoral College does... They do generally vote along the lines of our popular vote though which is why 2000 resulted in a Supreme Court case because people were outraged they had no voting power08:39
nigelbczajkowski: that sounds like that thing we use for Ubuntu elections.08:40
czajkowskiand it works :)08:40
bkerensa:D08:40
nigelbYeah :)08:40
czajkowskiso if I only want to give my votes to my party I do or I can go down through the list and do themax, but I also dont like seeing the other party/people get in so dont do vting for the other party08:40
czajkowskias I said simple, and a bit of common sense08:40
bkerensaI wish we had that :D08:41
czajkowskibkerensa: I think the rest of the world wishes USA had it that simple08:42
czajkowski:)08:42
bkerensaczajkowski: So are you a UK citizen? I know your from IE but not sure how that works with you living in London08:43
bkerensado you get to vote for UK?08:43
czajkowskiits interesting as anyone in ireland gets automatically allowed to vote on the local elections over here08:43
czajkowskiI've also got dual citizenship as I'm half English as I was born here and hold an English and an Irish passport08:44
czajkowskibut anyone in the EU can travel and settle and register to vote after soe time I think08:44
bkerensaNice... So I guess the U.S. does not allow Dual Citizenship they make you give up one.... But like my neighbor is Canadian with Permanent Residency but she cannot vote08:44
czajkowskiyeah mate of mine went to Uni in .ie she's from MA and now lives in Uk, she's gving up her USA citzenship and getting a UK one .08:45
bkerensaheh :)08:46
czajkowskiit was still cheaper for her to pay feels for 5 years in .Ie and her PHd in UK with travel and housing than do it in boston08:46
czajkowskimost odd.08:46
bkerensaSo I don't know how true it is but I heard that if you release your U.S. Citizenship you can be barred from re-entry if the government so chooses08:46
bkerensawhich would be one bad thing about giving up your citizenship08:46
czajkowskidepends on how you liook at it I guess :)08:47
bkerensathe Facebook Co-Founder guy gave up his for a Malaysian Citizenship and is now barred from ever re-entering08:47
bkerensa:D08:47
bkerensabut he did it to dodge taxes08:47
czajkowskieach to theor own I say.08:47
czajkowskiI dont see anything wrong with having dual citezenship08:47
czajkowskianwaysy we really shouldnt be talking about politics here08:48
bkerensakk08:48
bkerensaczajkowski: so what theme will your UGJ be?08:48
czajkowskiso who's going to a UGJ this weekend08:48
czajkowskitheme?08:48
bkerensaWhat will the focus be? Testing? Bugs? Doc?08:48
czajkowskioh not sure08:48
czajkowskianyone Iv'e eever been to kind adoes a mixture08:48
czajkowskiwhich is more fun08:48
czajkowskiin .ie we'd pair people up to help them08:49
bkerensahuh08:49
czajkowskiwhat..08:49
bkerensaThats cool.... I wish we could do more areas here but most people seem pretty dedicated to bugs08:50
czajkowskino people dont like doing one thing all day we found, so one time we worked on our Irish wiki page and removing cruft and proffer archiving for one morning wiht 2 people working on it as they'd never edited a wiki and were new and wanted to start off08:52
czajkowskiothers did Irish translations08:53
elfybkerensa: that is a very orange room by the way :D08:53
czajkowskiand some of us installed the newest verion and used testdrive and had some fun08:53
bkerensaelfy: why thanks :) I am going to have some Ubuntu Pictogram Vinyls made to add08:54
elfycool08:54
bkerensaI got the same designs they used at the Canonical Offices08:54
bkerensa:D08:54
czajkowskibkerensa: yer kidding..08:55
bkerensaczajkowski: kidding what?08:56
bkerensa:D08:56
bkerensahttp://i.imgur.com/kNQ0T.jpg <-- czajkowski08:57
bkerensa:D08:57
czajkowskithe orange background with the same designs they use in the office08:57
czajkowskiclearly not :)08:57
czajkowskifair enough08:57
bkerensaczajkowski: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--fi9nS4_UcA/UD1rTH7kf6I/AAAAAAAAADQ/IIrJcbRAHYk/s731/picwall.JPG08:57
bkerensait should look like that ^08:57
bkerensa:D08:57
czajkowskiyes I know the wall all too well08:58
bkerensa:D08:58
bkerensawell the one above is Jose Antonio Rey's :D he got the design from Canonical too :D08:59
dholbachdoes anyone know if named hangouts still have a fixed url? at some stage they had a url like https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu-dev09:45
dholbachbut I'm not sure if that still works - it might be that hangouts-on-air replaced the feature09:45
czajkowskidholbach: not that I've seen09:46
* czajkowski hugs dholbach 11:07
czajkowskinice tunage!11:08
didrocksa smiley dholbach's face for hangout, who can resist? :)11:12
* dholbach hugs didrocks :)12:01
dholbachthanks czajkowski12:01
dholbachczajkowski, I had to try something new, no DnB this time12:03
* didrocks hugs dholbach back12:03
dholbachdpm, wenn Du 'n bisschen Zeit hast, können wir mal telefonieren?12:04
dholbach(nicht lang)12:04
dpmdholbach, ich bin gerade frei, wenn du willst12:04
dholbachsuper12:04
czajkowskidholbach: it's good just had it on there while working through tickets12:07
jcastroman14:13
jcastrothis is awesome14:13
jcastroballoons: from the forums14:13
jcastro"I created a bug report, and I am currently dealing with the Brad Figg bot."14:13
smartboyhwHah14:13
jcastroI am laughing so hard right now14:13
dholbachhahahaha14:13
dholbachjcastro, I did a non-DnB mix, no Deadmau5 on there, but maybe you still like it: http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/para-mis-amigos/ ;-)14:21
jcastroON IT.14:22
jcastrodholbach: this is pretty awesome14:31
dholbachit was good fun putting it together, I've been wanting to upload some non-DnB stuff for a while :)14:33
dholbachI'm glad you like it :)14:33
dholbachit just reminded me a bit of what we listened to at one of the sprints where I was able to take over the loudspeakers for an hour :-P14:33
dholbachthat's why I though I'd mention it to you14:33
jcastrogroove is in the heart.14:42
* popey is listening to dholbach's funky14:44
popeydholbach, like this14:55
* dholbach curtseys14:55
jcastrotoo bad I have to interrupt with this call14:57
dholbachI had no idea mceppi's complete name was "Marco Alessandro Corrado Ceppi" :)14:57
dholbachat least that's what mixcloud says :)14:57
nigelbthat must be his stage name ;)14:57
jcastroour marcoceppi?14:58
dholbachhttp://www.mixcloud.com/marcoaceppi/ :)14:58
marcoceppidholbach: My father never had a middle name, so they gave me a few extras14:58
jcastroomg that pic14:58
jonodholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119, dpm gentlemen, shall we roll?14:58
dholbachI don't know the cat, but I think I recognise the guy - the same guy who ceppi'ed the volleyball on the roof when we played at the last UDS party :)14:58
jcastroroll like a boss!14:58
mhall119jono: yep14:59
jcastrothat volleyball was intense14:59
dholbachlet's do it14:59
dholbachit was lots of fun :)14:59
mhall119it was, +1 for more volleyball14:59
* dholbach hugs marcoceppi14:59
jonodholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119, dpm https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/22b5c5ec84e7a6ce8e177a48d9847c2e026e4512?authuser=0&hl=en-US15:00
popeydholbach, make more of this please15:00
dholbachI'll do my best :)15:01
* balloons will be last15:01
smartboyhwFor sure15:01
smartboyhwballoons almost is last always LOL15:01
dakeryo pleia215:13
jonodholbach, we lost you?15:14
dholbachjono, yes, no idea why I can't connect15:14
dholbachah back15:14
pleia2daker: hey15:34
dakerpleia2: available for a few minutes  ?15:34
pleia2daker: yeah15:35
pleia2daker: so... have some ltp stuff for me? :)15:46
dakerpleia2: yeah15:46
* dholbach hugs popey - thanks for the flowers15:57
popeyhah15:57
dakerpleia2: PM16:00
jonojcastro, I might be delayed a little, need to fix something while some europeans are online16:17
czajkowski40 mins and counting :D16:20
dholbachalright my friends - have a great weekend everyone16:20
dholbachbig hugs16:21
czajkowskidholbach: nn16:21
dholbachmight see some of you tomorrow though :)16:21
dholbachthe Venezuelans invited me to their jam16:21
dholbachvia hangout :)16:21
dholbachlet's see how tired I'm going to look tomorrow :)16:21
dholbachbye :)16:24
jcastrojono: I can go whenever16:38
jonothanks jcastro16:38
jcastrojono: ready soon or can I get some chow?17:02
jonojcastro, go eat17:02
jcastro\o/17:02
jcastroyou know what I live next to now17:02
jcastroa Jimmy Johns17:02
jcastrothat's right. Awesome subs, every day17:02
jono:-)17:05
jonomhall119, can you send me a screenie of the trophies lens?18:33
mhall119jono: sure, any particular one?18:42
jonomhall119, just the preview thanks18:44
mhall119jono: http://ubuntuone.com/7PinOpfr5LpE9fsa9E9JCc18:47
jonojcastro, lets roll19:31
jcastrookey19:31
jonojcastro, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e325e5ee50440799e54b61087ef02124c320abcf?authuser=0&hl=en-US19:33
jonoballoons, can you hop on a call in a few mins?20:21
balloonsjono, yes.. did you have a look over the doc?20:21
jonoballoons, not yet, I wanted you to walk me through it20:21
balloonssure20:21
jonoset up the hangout and msg me the link and I will join in two mins20:21
balloonsk20:21
jcastrohey balloons20:24
balloonshey jcastro20:24
jcastrohttp://gould.cx/ted/blog/Desktop_in_the_cloud20:24
jcastroplease tell your friends about this20:24
balloonsi was JUST reading that20:24
balloonslol20:24
jcastroyour friends being the QA people testing this sort of thing20:24
jcastrothat's right baby, disposable desktops in the cloud20:24
pleia2balloons: do you know if there will there be new ubuntu daily images in the next 8 hours?20:25
pleia2prepping for UGJ tonight, need to see if I should wait for daily (or just have people test beta 1 for practice or...)20:26
pleia2so I have everything ready for tomorrow morning20:26
balloonspleia2, ahh20:28
balloonsyes dailies should come up by tomorrow20:29
balloonsbyt beta1 is better20:29
pleia2balloons: hm, since it's already released it doesn't seem like people can submit reports anymore on the tracker20:31
jonoballoons, one other thing21:15
jonoI will need those slides by EOD Monday21:15
jonoas the sprint starts on Tuesday21:15
jonono pressure :-)21:16
bkerensa=o21:20
bkerensaSRU bugs are fun21:21
balloonsjono, lol21:33
balloonspleia2, no they can't for beta121:33
balloonsif iso testing, use the daily21:34
balloonsuse testdrive, or manually dl and test21:34
balloonsi guess the daily works also for running the application tests, or simply checking out the new release21:34
balloonsjono, I'll polish them off on monday.. you can theme them yourself21:34
balloonsso it will be all black and white :-)21:35
* balloons is excitied to see what will happen21:35
cjohnstonnice post pleia221:51
pleia2thanks21:53
pleia2maybe someone will even do it \o/21:53
cjohnstonmaybe21:53
pleia2if not, hey, vagrant is cool, I learned about a new tool today :)21:54
* cjohnston has too many things on his list to learn21:55
pleia2my "to learn" list is separate from my "to do" list ;)21:55
pleia2which helps21:56
cjohnstonunfortunatly, a large part of my "to learn" is because of my "to do"21:56
mhall119pleia2: \o/22:05
mhall119thanks for writing that up22:05
pleia2mhall119: does that satisfy your [mhall119] Write a blog post about getting started with LoCo team portal development: TODO ?22:05
pleia2I can steal and done it22:06
mhall119yes, it's all yours :)22:07
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