[00:16] <bkerensa> cjohnston: lol what is this "Dear Mr Johnston, with all due respect, please leave my bugs alone!"
[00:16] <bkerensa> ;p
[00:21] <cjohnston> ?
[01:31] <ajmitch> jcastro: I'm trying to hit up archive admins that I know & can beg for favours
[01:31] <jcastro> I'd be happy to beg if you tell me who to beg to
[01:31] <jcastro> or which bug
[01:32] <ajmitch> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1031886 is the LP bug, but it's sitting on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue
[01:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1031886 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] unity-lens-help" [Wishlist,In progress]
[01:32]  * ajmitch had asked in -release last week & talked with seb128, but he was busy
[01:32] <ajmitch> currently begging stevenk & offering beer
[01:34] <ajmitch> you can see that it's not the only package blocked, hence laney posting to the -release mailing list about it yesterday
[01:51] <ajmitch> jcastro: I may have met with some success with bribes
[01:52] <jcastro> I sent a bribe email
[01:53] <ajmitch> jcastro: thanks, though it was accepted about 30 seconds ago :)
[01:53] <ajmitch> 13:52 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted unity-lens-help [source] (quantal-release) [1.6]
[01:57] <jcastro> aha
[01:57] <jcastro> awesome
[01:59]  * ajmitch might need to stop off in sydney after LCA & drop off a beer or something
[02:13] <nigelb> ajmitch: Only one beer? I'm sure stevenK will chase you all the way back to Dunedin ;)
[02:16] <ajmitch> probably :)
[06:56] <dholbach> good morning
[06:56] <dholbach> hola dpm
[06:57] <dholbach> dpm, com estàs?
[06:57] <elfy> morning dholbach
[06:57] <dholbach> hi elfy
[06:57] <dpm> bones dholbach, bé, gràcies :)
[06:59] <dholbach> dpm, the CC had a meeting with the ARB yesterday - maybe the log is going to be of interest for you
[06:59] <dpm> ah, yeah, I'll have a look
[07:07] <dholbach> dpm, when you have a moment can you check if the packaging guide updater ran or if it failed? (sorry about that) I need to get an article I wrote online to fix some of our wiki docs and do an announcement
[07:11] <dpm> dholbach, here's the e-mail I got: https://pastebin.canonical.com/74013/
[07:11] <dpm> I'll try to re-run it manually
[07:11] <dholbach> that's weird
[07:12] <dpm> dholbach, just ran it now: https://pastebin.canonical.com/74014/
[07:13] <dpm> I'm not sure everything went ok, it was quicker than usual
[07:13] <dholbach> perfect, the article is online
[07:13] <dholbach> no idea why the update failed :-(
[07:13] <dholbach> thanks in any case
[07:43] <czajkowski> morning
[07:48] <bkerensa> czajkowski: you made it to friday
[07:48] <bkerensa> :)
[07:51] <czajkowski> I did indeed
[07:51] <czajkowski> after a manic day yesterday
[07:51] <czajkowski> and will be in the office tomrorow running a UGJ in London
[07:51] <czajkowski> so sunday I plan on sleeping in
[07:56] <czajkowski> gah seriously when is the USA elections over,anothe rmorning of fb ranting about yer elections on my updates :/
[08:11] <elfy> czajkowski: I don't think they are ever over for them - it just starts again
[08:21] <bkerensa> czajkowski: Officially it will end in November but the losing party will complain about the results for the next four years :)
[08:22] <bkerensa> elfy: correct :) it is re-occuring like a cronjob :)
[08:22] <elfy> bkerensa: so is it here - but les obviously so :)
[08:23] <bkerensa> elfy: Where is here?
[08:23] <elfy> UK
[08:23] <czajkowski> elfy: less than USA.
[08:24] <czajkowski> even in .Ie we elect a president and that the end of it
[08:24] <czajkowski> 7 years I think
[08:24] <bkerensa> czajkowski: nobody gets sour over it?
[08:24] <elfy> :)
[08:24] <czajkowski> bkerensa: no
[08:25] <czajkowski> this is the first time we've had a bloke in at least 21 years.
[08:25] <bkerensa> heh
[08:25] <bkerensa> But your elections don't generally result in horrible policies due to corrupt politicians either?
[08:26] <czajkowski> ah our national gov does
[08:26] <bkerensa> for some reason I am under the assumption that the UK's political scene is a bit more common sense
[08:26] <bkerensa> hmm
[08:26] <czajkowski> there is a reason we are in a recession
[08:26] <bkerensa> Immigration no?
[08:26] <czajkowski> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ireland
[08:27] <czajkowski> bkerensa: welll yes due to the infaltion and taxes of last gov
[08:27] <czajkowski> our president role is a lot different from yours
[08:28] <nigelb> Yeah, american president is head of state and head of government.
[08:28] <nigelb> I'm guessing that Irish president is only Head of State.
[08:28] <czajkowski> who still has to approve legislation
[08:28] <nigelb> Right. Same here.
[08:28] <nigelb> I think both our systems inherit from UK.
[08:29] <bkerensa> wow the term limits in Ireland are insane
[08:29] <bkerensa> >.<
[08:29] <nigelb> Is there a Prime Minister for Ireland?
[08:29] <bkerensa> 1997-2011?
[08:29] <czajkowski> nigelb: a Taoiseach
[08:30] <czajkowski> Prime minister is rather british :)
[08:30] <nigelb> czajkowski: Aha.
[08:30] <nigelb> hehe
[08:30] <czajkowski> bkerensa: so she served 2 terms, you're allowed do  that once.
[08:30] <czajkowski> as a term is 7 years
[08:30] <bkerensa> nigelb: Well... President in U.S. is Head of State and Executive Branch of Government
[08:30] <bkerensa> Our president doesn't control all of the government
[08:30] <smartboyhw> Wow politics...
[08:30] <nigelb> bkerensa: Well, it's not about control.
[08:31] <nigelb> Most other countries have two people doing the job that US President does.
[08:31] <nigelb> The power is split to two people too.
[08:31] <czajkowski> also our taoisheach is appointed by our president, so usually from the same political party
[08:31] <nigelb> ah!
[08:31] <nigelb> That's different from India then.
[08:32] <nigelb> it's the other way around for us.
[08:32] <nigelb> The president is appointed by the ruling party.
[08:33] <bkerensa> nigelb: Hmm and how is the ruling party determined?
[08:33] <nigelb> Highest number of seats in the Lok Sabha.
[08:34] <czajkowski> we have a coalition gov always have who ever is the main one leads and is our leader
[08:34] <bkerensa> Do people vote people into this Lok Sabha?
[08:34] <nigelb> Not only highest, but there's a threshold.
[08:34] <nigelb> So, we tend to have coalition.
[08:34] <nigelb> bkerensa: Yep.
[08:34] <bkerensa> nigelb: is the voting to elect to the Lok Sabha a popular vote?
[08:34] <bkerensa> or do you have a intermediary?
[08:35] <nigelb> bkerensa: Explain?
[08:35] <bkerensa> Ok
[08:35] <nigelb> I lost you there.
[08:35] <bkerensa> So in the U.S. we all vote for the President but our vote does not really count
[08:35] <bkerensa> we have a "Electoral College"
[08:35] <nigelb> Oh?
[08:35] <bkerensa> which is representatives who cast their own votes
[08:35] <bkerensa> and are not required in most states to follow what the popular vote is
[08:35] <bkerensa> so
[08:35] <bkerensa> in 2000
[08:36] <bkerensa> Al Gore was voted President if the Popular Vote counted
[08:36] <nigelb> ah
[08:36] <bkerensa> but the Electoral College ignored what Americans decided and voted Bush into office
[08:36] <bkerensa> :)
[08:36] <nigelb> TIL
[08:36] <nigelb> so, there's a Member of parliament for each region in India.
[08:37] <bkerensa> ah
[08:37] <nigelb> We vote for the individual who's going to be a member from our region.
[08:37] <nigelb> Depending on which party he's affliated with, a ruling party/coalition is decided.
[08:37] <nigelb> And they get to decide who's going to be prime minister, etc.
[08:38] <bkerensa> I guess thats good
[08:38] <nigelb> We don't get to choose the PM, but I thought you guys did.
[08:38] <bkerensa> That would be like our Congress choosing our President
[08:39] <nigelb> I didn't realize there was a popular vote vs electoral college.
[08:39] <czajkowski> we vote in our area there could be up to 12 or more candiates you rank them 1,2,3 etc and those who make quorum are elected. tis kinda simple
[08:39] <nigelb> It'll be like the winning party in the Congress choosing the president.
[08:39] <bkerensa> nigelb: nope not really... Officially we do not the Electoral College does... They do generally vote along the lines of our popular vote though which is why 2000 resulted in a Supreme Court case because people were outraged they had no voting power
[08:40] <nigelb> czajkowski: that sounds like that thing we use for Ubuntu elections.
[08:40] <czajkowski> and it works :)
[08:40] <bkerensa> :D
[08:40] <nigelb> Yeah :)
[08:40] <czajkowski> so if I only want to give my votes to my party I do or I can go down through the list and do themax, but I also dont like seeing the other party/people get in so dont do vting for the other party
[08:40] <czajkowski> as I said simple, and a bit of common sense
[08:41] <bkerensa> I wish we had that :D
[08:42] <czajkowski> bkerensa: I think the rest of the world wishes USA had it that simple
[08:42] <czajkowski> :)
[08:43] <bkerensa> czajkowski: So are you a UK citizen? I know your from IE but not sure how that works with you living in London
[08:43] <bkerensa> do you get to vote for UK?
[08:43] <czajkowski> its interesting as anyone in ireland gets automatically allowed to vote on the local elections over here
[08:44] <czajkowski> I've also got dual citizenship as I'm half English as I was born here and hold an English and an Irish passport
[08:44] <czajkowski> but anyone in the EU can travel and settle and register to vote after soe time I think
[08:44] <bkerensa> Nice... So I guess the U.S. does not allow Dual Citizenship they make you give up one.... But like my neighbor is Canadian with Permanent Residency but she cannot vote
[08:45] <czajkowski> yeah mate of mine went to Uni in .ie she's from MA and now lives in Uk, she's gving up her USA citzenship and getting a UK one .
[08:46] <bkerensa> heh :)
[08:46] <czajkowski> it was still cheaper for her to pay feels for 5 years in .Ie and her PHd in UK with travel and housing than do it in boston
[08:46] <czajkowski> most odd.
[08:46] <bkerensa> So I don't know how true it is but I heard that if you release your U.S. Citizenship you can be barred from re-entry if the government so chooses
[08:46] <bkerensa> which would be one bad thing about giving up your citizenship
[08:47] <czajkowski> depends on how you liook at it I guess :)
[08:47] <bkerensa> the Facebook Co-Founder guy gave up his for a Malaysian Citizenship and is now barred from ever re-entering
[08:47] <bkerensa> :D
[08:47] <bkerensa> but he did it to dodge taxes
[08:47] <czajkowski> each to theor own I say.
[08:47] <czajkowski> I dont see anything wrong with having dual citezenship
[08:48] <czajkowski> anwaysy we really shouldnt be talking about politics here
[08:48] <bkerensa> kk
[08:48] <bkerensa> czajkowski: so what theme will your UGJ be?
[08:48] <czajkowski> so who's going to a UGJ this weekend
[08:48] <czajkowski> theme?
[08:48] <bkerensa> What will the focus be? Testing? Bugs? Doc?
[08:48] <czajkowski> oh not sure
[08:48] <czajkowski> anyone Iv'e eever been to kind adoes a mixture
[08:48] <czajkowski> which is more fun
[08:49] <czajkowski> in .ie we'd pair people up to help them
[08:49] <bkerensa> huh
[08:49] <czajkowski> what..
[08:50] <bkerensa> Thats cool.... I wish we could do more areas here but most people seem pretty dedicated to bugs
[08:52] <czajkowski> no people dont like doing one thing all day we found, so one time we worked on our Irish wiki page and removing cruft and proffer archiving for one morning wiht 2 people working on it as they'd never edited a wiki and were new and wanted to start off
[08:53] <czajkowski> others did Irish translations
[08:53] <elfy> bkerensa: that is a very orange room by the way :D
[08:53] <czajkowski> and some of us installed the newest verion and used testdrive and had some fun
[08:54] <bkerensa> elfy: why thanks :) I am going to have some Ubuntu Pictogram Vinyls made to add
[08:54] <elfy> cool
[08:54] <bkerensa> I got the same designs they used at the Canonical Offices
[08:54] <bkerensa> :D
[08:55] <czajkowski> bkerensa: yer kidding..
[08:56] <bkerensa> czajkowski: kidding what?
[08:56] <bkerensa> :D
[08:57] <bkerensa> http://i.imgur.com/kNQ0T.jpg <-- czajkowski
[08:57] <bkerensa> :D
[08:57] <czajkowski> the orange background with the same designs they use in the office
[08:57] <czajkowski> clearly not :)
[08:57] <czajkowski> fair enough
[08:57] <bkerensa> czajkowski: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--fi9nS4_UcA/UD1rTH7kf6I/AAAAAAAAADQ/IIrJcbRAHYk/s731/picwall.JPG
[08:57] <bkerensa> it should look like that ^
[08:57] <bkerensa> :D
[08:58] <czajkowski> yes I know the wall all too well
[08:58] <bkerensa> :D
[08:59] <bkerensa> well the one above is Jose Antonio Rey's :D he got the design from Canonical too :D
[09:45] <dholbach> does anyone know if named hangouts still have a fixed url? at some stage they had a url like https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu-dev
[09:45] <dholbach> but I'm not sure if that still works - it might be that hangouts-on-air replaced the feature
[09:46] <czajkowski> dholbach: not that I've seen
[11:07]  * czajkowski hugs dholbach 
[11:08] <czajkowski> nice tunage!
[11:12] <didrocks> a smiley dholbach's face for hangout, who can resist? :)
[12:01]  * dholbach hugs didrocks :)
[12:01] <dholbach> thanks czajkowski
[12:03] <dholbach> czajkowski, I had to try something new, no DnB this time
[12:03]  * didrocks hugs dholbach back
[12:04] <dholbach> dpm, wenn Du 'n bisschen Zeit hast, können wir mal telefonieren?
[12:04] <dholbach> (nicht lang)
[12:04] <dpm> dholbach, ich bin gerade frei, wenn du willst
[12:04] <dholbach> super
[12:07] <czajkowski> dholbach: it's good just had it on there while working through tickets
[14:13] <jcastro> man
[14:13] <jcastro> this is awesome
[14:13] <jcastro> balloons: from the forums
[14:13] <jcastro> "I created a bug report, and I am currently dealing with the Brad Figg bot."
[14:13] <smartboyhw> Hah
[14:13] <jcastro> I am laughing so hard right now
[14:13] <dholbach> hahahaha
[14:21] <dholbach> jcastro, I did a non-DnB mix, no Deadmau5 on there, but maybe you still like it: http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/para-mis-amigos/ ;-)
[14:22] <jcastro> ON IT.
[14:31] <jcastro> dholbach: this is pretty awesome
[14:33] <dholbach> it was good fun putting it together, I've been wanting to upload some non-DnB stuff for a while :)
[14:33] <dholbach> I'm glad you like it :)
[14:33] <dholbach> it just reminded me a bit of what we listened to at one of the sprints where I was able to take over the loudspeakers for an hour :-P
[14:33] <dholbach> that's why I though I'd mention it to you
[14:42] <jcastro> groove is in the heart.
[14:44]  * popey is listening to dholbach's funky
[14:55] <popey> dholbach, like this
[14:55]  * dholbach curtseys
[14:57] <jcastro> too bad I have to interrupt with this call
[14:57] <dholbach> I had no idea mceppi's complete name was "Marco Alessandro Corrado Ceppi" :)
[14:57] <dholbach> at least that's what mixcloud says :)
[14:57] <nigelb> that must be his stage name ;)
[14:58] <jcastro> our marcoceppi?
[14:58] <dholbach> http://www.mixcloud.com/marcoaceppi/ :)
[14:58] <marcoceppi> dholbach: My father never had a middle name, so they gave me a few extras
[14:58] <jcastro> omg that pic
[14:58] <jono> dholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119, dpm gentlemen, shall we roll?
[14:58] <dholbach> I don't know the cat, but I think I recognise the guy - the same guy who ceppi'ed the volleyball on the roof when we played at the last UDS party :)
[14:58] <jcastro> roll like a boss!
[14:59] <mhall119> jono: yep
[14:59] <jcastro> that volleyball was intense
[14:59] <dholbach> let's do it
[14:59] <dholbach> it was lots of fun :)
[14:59] <mhall119> it was, +1 for more volleyball
[14:59]  * dholbach hugs marcoceppi
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119, dpm https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/22b5c5ec84e7a6ce8e177a48d9847c2e026e4512?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[15:00] <popey> dholbach, make more of this please
[15:01] <dholbach> I'll do my best :)
[15:01]  * balloons will be last
[15:01] <smartboyhw> For sure
[15:01] <smartboyhw> balloons almost is last always LOL
[15:13] <daker> yo pleia2
[15:14] <jono> dholbach, we lost you?
[15:14] <dholbach> jono, yes, no idea why I can't connect
[15:14] <dholbach> ah back
[15:34] <pleia2> daker: hey
[15:34] <daker> pleia2: available for a few minutes  ?
[15:35] <pleia2> daker: yeah
[15:46] <pleia2> daker: so... have some ltp stuff for me? :)
[15:46] <daker> pleia2: yeah
[15:57]  * dholbach hugs popey - thanks for the flowers
[15:57] <popey> hah
[16:00] <daker> pleia2: PM
[16:17] <jono> jcastro, I might be delayed a little, need to fix something while some europeans are online
[16:20] <czajkowski> 40 mins and counting :D
[16:20] <dholbach> alright my friends - have a great weekend everyone
[16:21] <dholbach> big hugs
[16:21] <czajkowski> dholbach: nn
[16:21] <dholbach> might see some of you tomorrow though :)
[16:21] <dholbach> the Venezuelans invited me to their jam
[16:21] <dholbach> via hangout :)
[16:21] <dholbach> let's see how tired I'm going to look tomorrow :)
[16:24] <dholbach> bye :)
[16:38] <jcastro> jono: I can go whenever
[16:38] <jono> thanks jcastro
[17:02] <jcastro> jono: ready soon or can I get some chow?
[17:02] <jono> jcastro, go eat
[17:02] <jcastro> \o/
[17:02] <jcastro> you know what I live next to now
[17:02] <jcastro> a Jimmy Johns
[17:02] <jcastro> that's right. Awesome subs, every day
[17:05] <jono> :-)
[18:33] <jono> mhall119, can you send me a screenie of the trophies lens?
[18:42] <mhall119> jono: sure, any particular one?
[18:44] <jono> mhall119, just the preview thanks
[18:47] <mhall119> jono: http://ubuntuone.com/7PinOpfr5LpE9fsa9E9JCc
[19:31] <jono> jcastro, lets roll
[19:31] <jcastro> okey
[19:33] <jono> jcastro, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e325e5ee50440799e54b61087ef02124c320abcf?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[20:21] <jono> balloons, can you hop on a call in a few mins?
[20:21] <balloons> jono, yes.. did you have a look over the doc?
[20:21] <jono> balloons, not yet, I wanted you to walk me through it
[20:21] <balloons> sure
[20:21] <jono> set up the hangout and msg me the link and I will join in two mins
[20:21] <balloons> k
[20:24] <jcastro> hey balloons
[20:24] <balloons> hey jcastro
[20:24] <jcastro> http://gould.cx/ted/blog/Desktop_in_the_cloud
[20:24] <jcastro> please tell your friends about this
[20:24] <balloons> i was JUST reading that
[20:24] <balloons> lol
[20:24] <jcastro> your friends being the QA people testing this sort of thing
[20:24] <jcastro> that's right baby, disposable desktops in the cloud
[20:25] <pleia2> balloons: do you know if there will there be new ubuntu daily images in the next 8 hours?
[20:26] <pleia2> prepping for UGJ tonight, need to see if I should wait for daily (or just have people test beta 1 for practice or...)
[20:26] <pleia2> so I have everything ready for tomorrow morning
[20:28] <balloons> pleia2, ahh
[20:29] <balloons> yes dailies should come up by tomorrow
[20:29] <balloons> byt beta1 is better
[20:31] <pleia2> balloons: hm, since it's already released it doesn't seem like people can submit reports anymore on the tracker
[21:15] <jono> balloons, one other thing
[21:15] <jono> I will need those slides by EOD Monday
[21:15] <jono> as the sprint starts on Tuesday
[21:16] <jono> no pressure :-)
[21:20] <bkerensa> =o
[21:21] <bkerensa> SRU bugs are fun
[21:33] <balloons> jono, lol
[21:33] <balloons> pleia2, no they can't for beta1
[21:34] <balloons> if iso testing, use the daily
[21:34] <balloons> use testdrive, or manually dl and test
[21:34] <balloons> i guess the daily works also for running the application tests, or simply checking out the new release
[21:34] <balloons> jono, I'll polish them off on monday.. you can theme them yourself
[21:35] <balloons> so it will be all black and white :-)
[21:35]  * balloons is excitied to see what will happen
[21:51] <cjohnston> nice post pleia2
[21:53] <pleia2> thanks
[21:53] <pleia2> maybe someone will even do it \o/
[21:53] <cjohnston> maybe
[21:54] <pleia2> if not, hey, vagrant is cool, I learned about a new tool today :)
[21:55]  * cjohnston has too many things on his list to learn
[21:55] <pleia2> my "to learn" list is separate from my "to do" list ;)
[21:56] <pleia2> which helps
[21:56] <cjohnston> unfortunatly, a large part of my "to learn" is because of my "to do"
[22:05] <mhall119> pleia2: \o/
[22:05] <mhall119> thanks for writing that up
[22:05] <pleia2> mhall119: does that satisfy your [mhall119] Write a blog post about getting started with LoCo team portal development: TODO ?
[22:06] <pleia2> I can steal and done it
[22:07] <mhall119> yes, it's all yours :)