[00:16] cjohnston: lol what is this "Dear Mr Johnston, with all due respect, please leave my bugs alone!" [00:16] ;p [00:21] ? [01:31] jcastro: I'm trying to hit up archive admins that I know & can beg for favours [01:31] I'd be happy to beg if you tell me who to beg to [01:31] or which bug [01:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1031886 is the LP bug, but it's sitting on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue [01:32] Launchpad bug 1031886 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] unity-lens-help" [Wishlist,In progress] [01:32] * ajmitch had asked in -release last week & talked with seb128, but he was busy [01:32] currently begging stevenk & offering beer [01:34] you can see that it's not the only package blocked, hence laney posting to the -release mailing list about it yesterday [01:51] jcastro: I may have met with some success with bribes [01:52] I sent a bribe email [01:53] jcastro: thanks, though it was accepted about 30 seconds ago :) [01:53] 13:52 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted unity-lens-help [source] (quantal-release) [1.6] [01:57] aha [01:57] awesome [01:59] * ajmitch might need to stop off in sydney after LCA & drop off a beer or something [02:13] ajmitch: Only one beer? I'm sure stevenK will chase you all the way back to Dunedin ;) [02:16] probably :) [06:56] good morning [06:56] hola dpm [06:57] dpm, com estàs? [06:57] morning dholbach [06:57] hi elfy [06:57] bones dholbach, bé, gràcies :) [06:59] dpm, the CC had a meeting with the ARB yesterday - maybe the log is going to be of interest for you [06:59] ah, yeah, I'll have a look [07:07] dpm, when you have a moment can you check if the packaging guide updater ran or if it failed? (sorry about that) I need to get an article I wrote online to fix some of our wiki docs and do an announcement [07:11] dholbach, here's the e-mail I got: https://pastebin.canonical.com/74013/ [07:11] I'll try to re-run it manually [07:11] that's weird [07:12] dholbach, just ran it now: https://pastebin.canonical.com/74014/ [07:13] I'm not sure everything went ok, it was quicker than usual [07:13] perfect, the article is online [07:13] no idea why the update failed :-( [07:13] thanks in any case [07:43] morning [07:48] czajkowski: you made it to friday [07:48] :) [07:51] I did indeed [07:51] after a manic day yesterday [07:51] and will be in the office tomrorow running a UGJ in London [07:51] so sunday I plan on sleeping in [07:56] gah seriously when is the USA elections over,anothe rmorning of fb ranting about yer elections on my updates :/ [08:11] czajkowski: I don't think they are ever over for them - it just starts again [08:21] czajkowski: Officially it will end in November but the losing party will complain about the results for the next four years :) [08:22] elfy: correct :) it is re-occuring like a cronjob :) [08:22] bkerensa: so is it here - but les obviously so :) [08:23] elfy: Where is here? [08:23] UK [08:23] elfy: less than USA. [08:24] even in .Ie we elect a president and that the end of it [08:24] 7 years I think [08:24] czajkowski: nobody gets sour over it? [08:24] :) [08:24] bkerensa: no [08:25] this is the first time we've had a bloke in at least 21 years. [08:25] heh [08:25] But your elections don't generally result in horrible policies due to corrupt politicians either? [08:26] ah our national gov does [08:26] for some reason I am under the assumption that the UK's political scene is a bit more common sense [08:26] hmm [08:26] there is a reason we are in a recession [08:26] Immigration no? [08:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ireland [08:27] bkerensa: welll yes due to the infaltion and taxes of last gov [08:27] our president role is a lot different from yours [08:28] Yeah, american president is head of state and head of government. [08:28] I'm guessing that Irish president is only Head of State. [08:28] who still has to approve legislation [08:28] Right. Same here. [08:28] I think both our systems inherit from UK. [08:29] wow the term limits in Ireland are insane [08:29] >.< [08:29] Is there a Prime Minister for Ireland? [08:29] 1997-2011? [08:29] nigelb: a Taoiseach [08:30] Prime minister is rather british :) [08:30] czajkowski: Aha. [08:30] hehe [08:30] bkerensa: so she served 2 terms, you're allowed do that once. [08:30] as a term is 7 years [08:30] nigelb: Well... President in U.S. is Head of State and Executive Branch of Government [08:30] Our president doesn't control all of the government [08:30] Wow politics... [08:30] bkerensa: Well, it's not about control. [08:31] Most other countries have two people doing the job that US President does. [08:31] The power is split to two people too. [08:31] also our taoisheach is appointed by our president, so usually from the same political party [08:31] ah! [08:31] That's different from India then. [08:32] it's the other way around for us. [08:32] The president is appointed by the ruling party. [08:33] nigelb: Hmm and how is the ruling party determined? [08:33] Highest number of seats in the Lok Sabha. [08:34] we have a coalition gov always have who ever is the main one leads and is our leader [08:34] Do people vote people into this Lok Sabha? [08:34] Not only highest, but there's a threshold. [08:34] So, we tend to have coalition. [08:34] bkerensa: Yep. [08:34] nigelb: is the voting to elect to the Lok Sabha a popular vote? [08:34] or do you have a intermediary? [08:35] bkerensa: Explain? [08:35] Ok [08:35] I lost you there. [08:35] So in the U.S. we all vote for the President but our vote does not really count [08:35] we have a "Electoral College" [08:35] Oh? [08:35] which is representatives who cast their own votes [08:35] and are not required in most states to follow what the popular vote is [08:35] so [08:35] in 2000 [08:36] Al Gore was voted President if the Popular Vote counted [08:36] ah [08:36] but the Electoral College ignored what Americans decided and voted Bush into office [08:36] :) [08:36] TIL [08:36] so, there's a Member of parliament for each region in India. [08:37] ah [08:37] We vote for the individual who's going to be a member from our region. [08:37] Depending on which party he's affliated with, a ruling party/coalition is decided. [08:37] And they get to decide who's going to be prime minister, etc. [08:38] I guess thats good [08:38] We don't get to choose the PM, but I thought you guys did. [08:38] That would be like our Congress choosing our President [08:39] I didn't realize there was a popular vote vs electoral college. [08:39] we vote in our area there could be up to 12 or more candiates you rank them 1,2,3 etc and those who make quorum are elected. tis kinda simple [08:39] It'll be like the winning party in the Congress choosing the president. [08:39] nigelb: nope not really... Officially we do not the Electoral College does... They do generally vote along the lines of our popular vote though which is why 2000 resulted in a Supreme Court case because people were outraged they had no voting power [08:40] czajkowski: that sounds like that thing we use for Ubuntu elections. [08:40] and it works :) [08:40] :D [08:40] Yeah :) [08:40] so if I only want to give my votes to my party I do or I can go down through the list and do themax, but I also dont like seeing the other party/people get in so dont do vting for the other party [08:40] as I said simple, and a bit of common sense [08:41] I wish we had that :D [08:42] bkerensa: I think the rest of the world wishes USA had it that simple [08:42] :) [08:43] czajkowski: So are you a UK citizen? I know your from IE but not sure how that works with you living in London [08:43] do you get to vote for UK? [08:43] its interesting as anyone in ireland gets automatically allowed to vote on the local elections over here [08:44] I've also got dual citizenship as I'm half English as I was born here and hold an English and an Irish passport [08:44] but anyone in the EU can travel and settle and register to vote after soe time I think [08:44] Nice... So I guess the U.S. does not allow Dual Citizenship they make you give up one.... But like my neighbor is Canadian with Permanent Residency but she cannot vote [08:45] yeah mate of mine went to Uni in .ie she's from MA and now lives in Uk, she's gving up her USA citzenship and getting a UK one . [08:46] heh :) [08:46] it was still cheaper for her to pay feels for 5 years in .Ie and her PHd in UK with travel and housing than do it in boston [08:46] most odd. [08:46] So I don't know how true it is but I heard that if you release your U.S. Citizenship you can be barred from re-entry if the government so chooses [08:46] which would be one bad thing about giving up your citizenship [08:47] depends on how you liook at it I guess :) [08:47] the Facebook Co-Founder guy gave up his for a Malaysian Citizenship and is now barred from ever re-entering [08:47] :D [08:47] but he did it to dodge taxes [08:47] each to theor own I say. [08:47] I dont see anything wrong with having dual citezenship [08:48] anwaysy we really shouldnt be talking about politics here [08:48] kk [08:48] czajkowski: so what theme will your UGJ be? [08:48] so who's going to a UGJ this weekend [08:48] theme? [08:48] What will the focus be? Testing? Bugs? Doc? [08:48] oh not sure [08:48] anyone Iv'e eever been to kind adoes a mixture [08:48] which is more fun [08:49] in .ie we'd pair people up to help them [08:49] huh [08:49] what.. [08:50] Thats cool.... I wish we could do more areas here but most people seem pretty dedicated to bugs [08:52] no people dont like doing one thing all day we found, so one time we worked on our Irish wiki page and removing cruft and proffer archiving for one morning wiht 2 people working on it as they'd never edited a wiki and were new and wanted to start off [08:53] others did Irish translations [08:53] bkerensa: that is a very orange room by the way :D [08:53] and some of us installed the newest verion and used testdrive and had some fun [08:54] elfy: why thanks :) I am going to have some Ubuntu Pictogram Vinyls made to add [08:54] cool [08:54] I got the same designs they used at the Canonical Offices [08:54] :D [08:55] bkerensa: yer kidding.. [08:56] czajkowski: kidding what? [08:56] :D [08:57] http://i.imgur.com/kNQ0T.jpg <-- czajkowski [08:57] :D [08:57] the orange background with the same designs they use in the office [08:57] clearly not :) [08:57] fair enough [08:57] czajkowski: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--fi9nS4_UcA/UD1rTH7kf6I/AAAAAAAAADQ/IIrJcbRAHYk/s731/picwall.JPG [08:57] it should look like that ^ [08:57] :D [08:58] yes I know the wall all too well [08:58] :D [08:59] well the one above is Jose Antonio Rey's :D he got the design from Canonical too :D [09:45] does anyone know if named hangouts still have a fixed url? at some stage they had a url like https://plus.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu-dev [09:45] but I'm not sure if that still works - it might be that hangouts-on-air replaced the feature [09:46] dholbach: not that I've seen [11:07] * czajkowski hugs dholbach [11:08] nice tunage! [11:12] a smiley dholbach's face for hangout, who can resist? :) [12:01] * dholbach hugs didrocks :) [12:01] thanks czajkowski [12:03] czajkowski, I had to try something new, no DnB this time [12:03] * didrocks hugs dholbach back [12:04] dpm, wenn Du 'n bisschen Zeit hast, können wir mal telefonieren? [12:04] (nicht lang) [12:04] dholbach, ich bin gerade frei, wenn du willst [12:04] super [12:07] dholbach: it's good just had it on there while working through tickets [14:13] man [14:13] this is awesome [14:13] balloons: from the forums [14:13] "I created a bug report, and I am currently dealing with the Brad Figg bot." [14:13] Hah [14:13] I am laughing so hard right now [14:13] hahahaha [14:21] jcastro, I did a non-DnB mix, no Deadmau5 on there, but maybe you still like it: http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/para-mis-amigos/ ;-) [14:22] ON IT. [14:31] dholbach: this is pretty awesome [14:33] it was good fun putting it together, I've been wanting to upload some non-DnB stuff for a while :) [14:33] I'm glad you like it :) [14:33] it just reminded me a bit of what we listened to at one of the sprints where I was able to take over the loudspeakers for an hour :-P [14:33] that's why I though I'd mention it to you [14:42] groove is in the heart. [14:44] * popey is listening to dholbach's funky [14:55] dholbach, like this [14:55] * dholbach curtseys [14:57] too bad I have to interrupt with this call [14:57] I had no idea mceppi's complete name was "Marco Alessandro Corrado Ceppi" :) [14:57] at least that's what mixcloud says :) [14:57] that must be his stage name ;) [14:58] our marcoceppi? [14:58] http://www.mixcloud.com/marcoaceppi/ :) [14:58] dholbach: My father never had a middle name, so they gave me a few extras [14:58] omg that pic [14:58] dholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119, dpm gentlemen, shall we roll? [14:58] I don't know the cat, but I think I recognise the guy - the same guy who ceppi'ed the volleyball on the roof when we played at the last UDS party :) [14:58] roll like a boss! [14:59] jono: yep [14:59] that volleyball was intense [14:59] let's do it [14:59] it was lots of fun :) [14:59] it was, +1 for more volleyball [14:59] * dholbach hugs marcoceppi [15:00] dholbach, jcastro, balloons, mhall119, dpm https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/22b5c5ec84e7a6ce8e177a48d9847c2e026e4512?authuser=0&hl=en-US [15:00] dholbach, make more of this please [15:01] I'll do my best :) [15:01] * balloons will be last [15:01] For sure [15:01] balloons almost is last always LOL [15:13] yo pleia2 [15:14] dholbach, we lost you? [15:14] jono, yes, no idea why I can't connect [15:14] ah back [15:34] daker: hey [15:34] pleia2: available for a few minutes ? [15:35] daker: yeah [15:46] daker: so... have some ltp stuff for me? :) [15:46] pleia2: yeah [15:57] * dholbach hugs popey - thanks for the flowers [15:57] hah [16:00] pleia2: PM [16:17] jcastro, I might be delayed a little, need to fix something while some europeans are online [16:20] 40 mins and counting :D [16:20] alright my friends - have a great weekend everyone [16:21] big hugs [16:21] dholbach: nn [16:21] might see some of you tomorrow though :) [16:21] the Venezuelans invited me to their jam [16:21] via hangout :) [16:21] let's see how tired I'm going to look tomorrow :) [16:24] bye :) [16:38] jono: I can go whenever [16:38] thanks jcastro [17:02] jono: ready soon or can I get some chow? [17:02] jcastro, go eat [17:02] \o/ [17:02] you know what I live next to now [17:02] a Jimmy Johns [17:02] that's right. Awesome subs, every day [17:05] :-) [18:33] mhall119, can you send me a screenie of the trophies lens? [18:42] jono: sure, any particular one? [18:44] mhall119, just the preview thanks [18:47] jono: http://ubuntuone.com/7PinOpfr5LpE9fsa9E9JCc [19:31] jcastro, lets roll [19:31] okey [19:33] jcastro, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e325e5ee50440799e54b61087ef02124c320abcf?authuser=0&hl=en-US [20:21] balloons, can you hop on a call in a few mins? [20:21] jono, yes.. did you have a look over the doc? [20:21] balloons, not yet, I wanted you to walk me through it [20:21] sure [20:21] set up the hangout and msg me the link and I will join in two mins [20:21] k [20:24] hey balloons [20:24] hey jcastro [20:24] http://gould.cx/ted/blog/Desktop_in_the_cloud [20:24] please tell your friends about this [20:24] i was JUST reading that [20:24] lol [20:24] your friends being the QA people testing this sort of thing [20:24] that's right baby, disposable desktops in the cloud [20:25] balloons: do you know if there will there be new ubuntu daily images in the next 8 hours? [20:26] prepping for UGJ tonight, need to see if I should wait for daily (or just have people test beta 1 for practice or...) [20:26] so I have everything ready for tomorrow morning [20:28] pleia2, ahh [20:29] yes dailies should come up by tomorrow [20:29] byt beta1 is better [20:31] balloons: hm, since it's already released it doesn't seem like people can submit reports anymore on the tracker [21:15] balloons, one other thing [21:15] I will need those slides by EOD Monday [21:15] as the sprint starts on Tuesday [21:16] no pressure :-) [21:20] =o [21:21] SRU bugs are fun [21:33] jono, lol [21:33] pleia2, no they can't for beta1 [21:34] if iso testing, use the daily [21:34] use testdrive, or manually dl and test [21:34] i guess the daily works also for running the application tests, or simply checking out the new release [21:34] jono, I'll polish them off on monday.. you can theme them yourself [21:35] so it will be all black and white :-) [21:35] * balloons is excitied to see what will happen [21:51] nice post pleia2 [21:53] thanks [21:53] maybe someone will even do it \o/ [21:53] maybe [21:54] if not, hey, vagrant is cool, I learned about a new tool today :) [21:55] * cjohnston has too many things on his list to learn [21:55] my "to learn" list is separate from my "to do" list ;) [21:56] which helps [21:56] unfortunatly, a large part of my "to learn" is because of my "to do" [22:05] pleia2: \o/ [22:05] thanks for writing that up [22:05] mhall119: does that satisfy your [mhall119] Write a blog post about getting started with LoCo team portal development: TODO ? [22:06] I can steal and done it [22:07] yes, it's all yours :) === nothingspecial is now known as Bradd_Figg === Bradd_Figg is now known as Brad_Figg === Brad_Figg is now known as nothingspecial