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pinky-saying 'Good Morning All!' to be the first;)04:40
AlanBellmorning all04:56
* AlanBell is om a train04:57
MartijnVdSagain, already? :)04:57
AlanBelllast shift today05:09
daubersMorning05:18
MartijnVdS\o daubers05:18
* daubers starts work :(05:19
MartijnVdSdaubers: Again & again & again & again..  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMy6X5cQul8 !05:37
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christelmorning lovelies06:25
MartijnVdS\o christel06:25
christelhellooooo my favourite dutch persone!06:28
christel-e06:28
MartijnVdSchristel: did the mailman come yet? :)06:28
christelnot yet! but he never comes early(!)06:28
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MartijnVdSdoes he always ring twice?06:29
christelhaha06:30
christelmy postman doesn't like me i think, he doesn't ring even if i am in, he just leaves parcels and stuff for me at random places -- sometimes in the porch, sometimes he wraps them in giant plastic royal mail bags and hides them in my shrubs/bushes!06:31
christelon the rare occasion that we cross paths he tends to ask "when are you planning to stop ordering so much stuff" :(06:31
MartijnVdSooh, parcel hide & seek06:31
christeli think he has concluded i am a shopoholic -- i merely feel i must make sure he doesn't end up out of a job!06:32
MartijnVdSMine knows my name.. even when I ran into him at the post office, and he's always happy :)06:32
christel:D06:32
christelbefore i moved i had a wonderful postman06:32
christeli'd lost my card (debit card) and i was frantically searching the house for it, just about to give up and call the bank tohave it cancelled when i find my card in the porch, wrapped in a royal mail thingie with a note saying "spotted this in town, figured there couldn't be two people with this name! love, postie xx" (yes he actually signed it postie, xx)06:34
MartijnVdShaha :)06:34
MartijnVdSbrilliant06:34
christelit made me very happy so the next day i left him a bottle of whisky on my doorstep to say thanks06:34
christel:)06:35
bigcalmGood (early) morning peeps :)07:22
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dauberschristel: Surely the answer to "when are you planning to stop ordering so much stuff" is "When I don't have such a wonderful postman"07:26
christeldaubers: ahahaha07:32
christel"i only order stuff so that i get to see you" STALK STALK STAK :D:D07:33
christeli like it!07:33
jacobwlol07:33
dauberschristel: Or use the response "After you come in for a coffee *wink*"07:35
daubersAlthough that might get awkward....07:35
christeldaubers: hahaha07:59
bigcalmI had my new router for less than an hour yesterday and managed to brick it. I intentionally bought a model that was meant to be unbrickable :(08:03
christelwell done!08:04
bigcalmI should get a t-shirt with "I void warranties" on it08:05
bigcalmThank you :)08:05
popeybigcalm, what model?08:12
bigcalmWNDR380008:12
popeymorning all08:12
bigcalmHi popey08:12
popeyheh, i have the 370008:12
popeythree in fact08:12
bigcalmYep, I took that advice and looked to see if there was a newer version08:12
popeywanna buy one of mine off me? :)08:12
bigcalmpopey: did you have _any_ problems with openwrt?08:12
bigcalmHeh08:13
bigcalmI just spent 90ish quid on this one, I'd like it to work :)08:13
popeyi had one problem yesterday, the AP dropped off the network so turned it off08:13
* popey turns it back on08:13
JamesTaitHappy Friday, folks! :-D08:17
hoovermorning folks08:20
davmor2Morning all you funky people08:23
* bigcalm does the funky gibbon08:24
diplomorning all08:30
hoovermorning diplo08:34
gordno funky gibbioning. its banned.08:35
JohnRobertdo do do the funky gibbon08:36
brobostigongood mornign everyone.09:12
mungojerrygood news that rpi rev2 is made in wales :D09:15
brobostigon:)09:15
MartijnVdSit's made from whales?09:22
brobostigonlol09:23
directhexyou're telling me that the dragon 32 is no longer the welshest home computer ever? :(09:38
JohnRobertwhelshest09:46
mungojerryi met the worlds most welsh lady yesterday, proper gavin and stacey. then the phoen rang and she picked it up and her voice was completely different09:59
TheOpenSourcererA bunch of us went to Swansea last weekend for a weekend of Golf and drinking and general merryment.10:03
TheOpenSourcererMan - di dwe meet some Welsh stereotypes - especially the Gavin & Stacy types.10:04
TheOpenSourcererWIND street on a saturday night was like those places you see on TV - Loads of incredibly drunk youth (many in next to no clothes) all falling about.10:04
TheOpenSourcererWas good natured on the whole mind you.10:04
TheOpenSourcererPeeps were very friendly.10:05
diploAnd the ladies are rather nice looking I found :)10:13
TheOpenSourcererSome are - some are not.10:13
TheOpenSourcererMany should most definitely have been wearing more clothes.10:13
diploheh, I had my kids so only saw the day time girlies and was quite impressed!10:14
christelwhat is a "garden party" and what do you wear to one?10:15
christelor is it just a posh way of saying "bbq"? :)10:16
TheOpenSourcererchristel: It is a party in a garden.10:16
daubersTheOpenSourcerer: Wind street is commonly known as Wine street10:16
TheOpenSourcererAs to clothes - try a dress and a hat10:16
christel"garden party" puts me in mind of those dos the queen has, for which people wear Hats!10:16
TheOpenSourcererHat's are quite common for Garden parties.10:16
christeland i have to attend a "garden party" this afternoon (one of my client's is throwing one)10:16
dauberschristel: people don't wear hats, One wears ones best10:17
christeloh dear! i dont own a hat! do you think i could fashion a fascinator out of old computer parts?10:17
TheOpenSourcerersorry - an abberant apostrophe slipped in there.10:17
christeloops clients*10:17
christelthankee10:17
gordtape monitor to head, have monitor display picture of hat. problem solved10:17
christelhahaha10:18
brobostigonlol10:18
MartijnVdSpragmatic :)10:18
christeli shall hire you as my fashion advisor10:18
christel:D10:18
MartijnVdSಠ_ಠ10:18
gordi solve problems, its what i do10:18
MartijnVdSI wonder how I'm going to attach wires to that TINY TINY soldering point on my TINY TINY WR703N10:21
daubersMartijnVdS: With one of these http://www.somersetsolders.com/product.php/646/282/heavy_duty_550w_soldering_iron_ab3198 ?10:23
MartijnVdSdaubers: .. yes10:23
mungojerryMartijnVdS, what are you doing with it?10:37
MartijnVdSmungojerry: adding a 1wire temperature sensor10:40
mungojerrythen what?10:40
MartijnVdSmungojerry: and a tiny script to expose its current value over http10:40
mungojerryusing it as a weather station?10:40
MartijnVdSso collectd can collect it :)10:40
mungojerryor env monitor10:40
MartijnVdSinside :)10:41
mungojerrysoudns like you want an rpi10:41
MartijnVdSI already have the WR703n :)10:41
MartijnVdSand doesn't the RPi have ethernet/USB problems?10:42
mungojerrydoes it?10:42
MartijnVdShttps://plus.google.com/100403777541206648979/posts/eVrbMTL51C710:43
MartijnVdSwell http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/08/24/2228251/serious-problems-with-usb-and-ethernet-on-the-raspberry-pi really10:43
BigRedSallegedly a firmware update cured them10:43
MartijnVdSit has?10:43
MartijnVdS.. some say :)10:43
BigRedSwell, that's the thing... :)10:43
BigRedSI want to believe it, but all the good things about RPi seem to come from crazy zealots who'd not mention any bad things anyway10:44
MartijnVdSfanbois10:46
mungojerryis the usb issue being worked on?10:46
BigRedSthere's a USB issue too?10:47
BigRedSMan, all I want one for is to serve data over Ethernet from a USB disk...10:47
MartijnVdSBigRedS: see the /. link10:47
MartijnVdSBigRedS: $22 < £35 :)10:47
BigRedSah yeah, I heard about the power10:48
MartijnVdSBigRedS: and the TP-Link (WR703N) has an USB port as well :)10:48
BigRedSI find it really hard to be surprised that a system powered by a USB socket goes on to put out less-than-maximum power on its USB sockets.10:48
BigRedSfeels like it's just playing inside the rules of thermodynamics, really :)10:48
MartijnVdSwell, you should power it with an 1A-capable supply10:49
MartijnVdSand use a powered hub on the other end10:49
MartijnVdSthat way, you'll always have enough power left over10:49
MartijnVdSbut people think a tiny 500mA wall adapter is enough10:49
MartijnVdSand then want to power their 200mA wifi dongles _as well_ as the pi from that10:49
MartijnVdSand then things break10:49
* popey tries to think of a reason to have a rpi in a car10:50
BigRedSyeah, that's what I thought tht problem was when I first saw it, I think that's why I dismissed it :)10:50
MartijnVdSpopey: xbmc for the kids10:50
popeyheh, good call!10:50
MartijnVdSpopey: audio player thingy (GPIOs for buttons on the steering wheel)10:50
BigRedSpopey: I've plans for an automagic podcast downloader that downloads whenever it's parked within WiFi10:50
BigRedSNot the sort of plans I'm actually going to do anything about, mind10:50
popeyheh10:51
Laneyczajkowski: can you put me on The List for tomorrow please?10:59
czajkowskisure11:00
Laneycheers11:00
LaneyI'll probably be there earlier than you mind11:01
czajkowskiyeah but everyone has to meet in the reception area so I cna bring you all up in one go11:01
czajkowskiswipe access11:01
Laneyspeaking to #bluefin about it11:01
Laneyfailing that xnox can sort me out ;-)11:02
* Laney puts the slow cooker on11:02
czajkowskiLaney: also remind xnox he needs to reply also11:06
czajkowskibetwen irc and pms and email want to make sure I have everyone11:06
pinky-omg I just saw an advert on tv for Christmas11:13
JohnRobertyeah I'd quite like to get a christmas11:23
pinky-double portion11:24
pinky-but if you buy it now, maybe a bit moldy in 3 months time11:30
SuperMattbit confused why I don't have whois in quantal..12:11
SuperMattor indeed in precise12:11
SuperMattseems a bit mental to have to install it12:12
gordwhy?12:13
SuperMattwell, its such a tiny, very useful tool12:14
gordfor what you specificly do, not really for a desktop os12:14
SuperMattI guess12:14
gordi love vim, think it should be installed by default, no one listens to me either ;)12:14
SuperMattI guess I've had it in previous installs, I kinda expected to see it in my current install12:14
The_Fredhello12:24
bigcalmWhat have I missed today?12:25
The_Fredi was wondering the same thing..12:26
The_FredTerry nutkins has passed on12:26
bigcalmOh no :(12:26
The_Fredyea :(12:26
* kvarley is now in love with Unity and he never thought it would happen.12:26
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The_Fredthe gover'ment is giving a big tax break to oil production in the north sea12:27
The_Fredand then i got to depressed to read any more news12:27
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bootlkhtgAlanBell, Hi there  , Saw your postcard on google Plus : What an excellent way to promote your business ..... way cool !12:34
MartijnVdSbootlkhtg: but.. it's christel's postcard :)12:34
MartijnVdSbootlkhtg: to AlanBell (and the rest of us)12:35
bootlkhtgO)H Ok, Well who's-ever it is ... I thought it was smashing !12:35
hoovercheers all, have a nice weekend12:35
christelbootlkhtg: haha it was my "HELLO #ubuntu-uk" card :D12:36
christeli figured since AlanBell is "Mr. UK" he'd be the appropriate recipient12:36
christel(soon to be competing in mr. universe i've heard)12:36
TheOpenSourcererorly?12:36
TheOpenSourcerer;-)12:36
MartijnVdSTheOpenSourcerer: competing with you12:36
christelalso on the subject of POST -- MartijnVdS's KILO of dutch yummy things for us farnham-ites to share has just arrived at my doorstep!12:36
bootlkhtgchristel, A cyber-crush , I detect ?12:37
MartijnVdSchristel: \o/12:37
TheOpenSourcererHe sits opposite me (when he's at work that is)12:37
MartijnVdSchristel: that's VERY quick12:37
christelMartijnVdS: yes! i am impressed :D12:37
MartijnVdSchristel: they knew it was being track&traced :)12:37
MartijnVdSchristel: also, poidh ;)12:37
christelTheOpenSourcerer: i shall bring dutch delights(!?) and come have coffee @ your office soon (well, when AlanBell decides to stop not going to work!)12:37
TheOpenSourcererHmmm - My idea of Dutch delights may not be the same as yours ;-)12:38
christelhahaha12:38
christelnot even the same district i think... :P12:38
MartijnVdSchristel: Take pictures, convince the alans :)12:38
TheOpenSourcererCan you smoke them?12:39
christelwell, we could try12:39
christelbut i think they were meant for eating12:39
TheOpenSourcererOooh cackes!12:39
TheOpenSourcerercakes12:39
bootlkhtgCan I have some cake plz ... I a little peckish !12:40
bootlkhtg**I'm12:40
bootlkhtgI can only  give free-hugs in return thou ... good trade ?12:40
* TheOpenSourcerer just wandered into Farnham, & had a wrap and a cold drink in the Park. Followed by an Ice Cream. nom nom12:40
christeltis a nice day12:40
christeli shall shortly head farnham-wards for this silly garden party12:41
christelbut because i am dreadfully shy and it will be full of strange people i shall go via the pub12:41
christel:D12:41
bigcalmIt's a lovely day indeed. Perfect for being in the office12:41
bootlkhtgTheOpenSourcerer, Was it a whippy (#99) or a raspberry ripple ?12:41
christelfor some dutch courage to stick with the dutch theme12:41
TheOpenSourcererA Magnum Infinity (or something like that)12:41
bootlkhtgYeah mint's the best !12:42
MartijnVdSooh12:42
MartijnVdSI have http://www.loveicecream.com/nl_nl/products/festini/festini/74/default.aspx12:42
bootlkhtg...Raspberry, Mint we'll be talking about milkshakes next ... or am I thinkin' Linux subconcously all the time ?>12:43
mungojerrymore like pimms12:45
The_Fredpimms linux? is that for snobs?12:46
The_Fred:)12:46
TheOpenSourcererhmm - if I have a tree of code some of it currently symlinked to a different dir, can I copy the data from the symlinked place into the target so I can then break the symlink?12:46
The_FredTheOpenSourcerer, yes12:47
The_FredTheOpenSourcerer, as long as the new destination is not on the synlink'd tree12:47
TheOpenSourcerergive us a cluebat then The_Fred12:47
The_Fred*symlinked12:47
TheOpenSourcererah OK.12:48
bootlkhtgThe first edition of the "Gimp" is out if anyone want to copy and paste the following into their browsers :: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0B7767D2F224585DBED98F2807E401ECFD564F42&dn=GIMP%2bMagazine%2bIssue%2b1.pdf&tr=udp%3a//tracker.openbittorrent.com%3a8012:48
bootlkhtgIt's creative commons anyway !12:48
TheOpenSourcererI'll just need to create some tem dires and copy the stuff in then rename them once remove symlink. I was hoping to avoid that.12:48
MartijnVdSuse hard links next time :)12:48
The_Fredodd - i was facing the same problem last night - then i found a batch file renamer which solved my issue :)12:49
The_FredTheOpenSourcerer,  cluebat..... i lke that..12:49
MartijnVdSuhr12:50
MartijnVdSThe_Fred: rename, comes with perl (= comes with linux, basically), uses regexes to rename files12:50
The_FredMartijnVdS, i used pyRenamer because i was short on time12:52
MartijnVdSbut12:52
MartijnVdSthat's not in the default install!12:52
The_Frednope12:52
bootlkhtgchristel, Just wondering, but have you spoken to Fjorgynn on the #twil (freenode) #channel, (thisweekinlinux.tv)  ... he's from Norway ...12:59
MartijnVdSbootlkhtg: All Norwegians have talked to all other Norwegians, didn't you know?13:00
jacobwfully meshed norwgians :o13:00
MartijnVdSfirst few weeks after birth are a bit hectic.. then it calms down :)13:01
jacobwlol13:01
bootlkhtgMartijnVdS, No I didn't  .. a kind of web 4.0 Norwegian brain as stated on page #105 of Robert David's Steele's -The Open-source Everything Manifesto  .... mmm   interesting13:02
bootlkhtgWhere is everybody going to be on Software freedom day ? http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/en/sfd13:09
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czajkowskiright one last shout out13:30
czajkowskianyone else coming to London for UGJ tomorrow13:30
czajkowskispeak now before I send in the list13:30
davmor2czajkowski: prod just cause I haven't13:38
BigRedSMe!13:49
SuperMattou!#13:49
SuperMattYou!13:49
SuperMattdon't know what happened there13:50
BigRedSBut I emailed the list, so I guess I'm on your list already13:50
MartijnVdSSuperMatt: "YUO!"14:01
AlanBellafternoon all14:15
brobostigonafternoonings AlanBell14:16
* AlanBell ponders beer14:17
brobostigonyummy. :)14:17
AlanBellor milkshake14:17
brobostigonalso yummy :)14:18
JohnRoberttonight i'm tackling the m25 anti-clockwise14:20
JohnRobertanyone know what my chances are on a friday evening?14:20
JohnRobertcambs > southampton @ 5:3014:21
JohnRoberta1, m25, m314:21
gordoh moterways. not guns then14:24
JohnRobert?14:25
TheOpenSourcererJohnRobert: Ha Ha Ha14:27
TheOpenSourcererM25->M3 will be pants - either way round the M25 you decide to go14:28
TheOpenSourcererHi AlanBell - All done with the Olympics now?14:28
SuperMattCouple of weeks ago I did two trips on the m25. Both of them had an additional 2 hours added to them14:31
awilkinsUrrgh, Southampton14:34
* awilkins crosses himself against Craig David14:34
BigRedSI've only ever once been caught in traffic that I wasn't helping cause14:43
BigRedSand that was on boxing day morning14:43
BigRedSer, traffic on the M2514:43
BigRedSbut, yes, that's largely by just not going on it in the rush hour. Where in cambs are you going from?14:43
BigRedSactually, I think I came to the conclusion that there's no better way, just need to not do it when everyone else is14:44
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* popey pokes gord with https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/104744915:18
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 1047449 in Unity "Thinkpad previous/next keys trigger HUD" [Undecided,New]15:18
popeyplease to be confirmotronning?15:19
* TheOpenSourcerer just got an invite to an exclusive party in December with a "free bar" :-D :-D :-D15:19
AlanBelltheopensourcerer yes, all done15:19
TheOpenSourcererGreat - di dyou have lots of fun?15:20
TheOpenSourcererI hope you were a cheery Gamesmaker15:20
TheOpenSourcererAnd not a grumpy one15:20
AlanBellyes, it was fun, better than expected15:20
TheOpenSourcererYou have been PAT tested today.15:21
AlanBellI tried to be grumpy but it didn't work15:21
TheOpenSourcererlol15:21
AlanBellup for a pint shortly?15:24
diploYes!15:25
diplo:)15:25
TheOpenSourcererAlanBell: who would you be asking?15:25
bigcalm2 weeks until the Happy Hour :D15:25
TheOpenSourcererAnd what is the occasion?15:25
AlanBellwell anyone in the farn* area really15:26
* TheOpenSourcerer is slaving over another vtiger CRM project in eclipse right now and is getting bored.15:26
AlanBellthe occasipn is I want a pint15:26
gordpopey, can't confirm, but my buttons don't seem to do anything at all15:26
TheOpenSourcererSuggest a venue then.15:27
TheOpenSourcererI won't be able to be out too late as I need to get home, have dinner, then go out for lots of pints :-D as it's Friday.15:27
popeyhmm15:27
popeyoooh!15:28
popeypints!?15:28
TheOpenSourcererGood grief - wake up popey15:28
MartijnVdSand Dutch candy, if you can find christel :)15:28
bigcalmHeh15:29
gordi have new strange and exotic japanese candy, but its all for me15:29
MartijnVdSbigcalm: Pepernoten, kruidnoten and chocolate-covered kruidnoten!15:30
bigcalm...15:32
MartijnVdSbigcalm: they're yummies!15:32
bigcalmOk15:32
AlanBellwell I am at Farnborough main right now15:34
popeyoh!15:35
AlanBellshepherd and flock is good in the sun15:36
AlanBellopen to other suggestions15:36
popeycan't get away right now15:36
popeygot calls15:36
popeynvm :(15:36
AlanBellor the mulberry15:37
* AlanBell heads for farnham for a start15:37
awilkinsNetBeans : yuck15:39
diploIt's ok awilkins, a little heavy15:43
awilkinsI guess I'm just used to Eclipse15:43
diploI couldn't get used to that if I'm honest, don't any of them the most though, they all have something I'd like in the other :/15:44
* TheOpenSourcerer wonders where AlanBell has headed to.15:57
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* TheOpenSourcerer knows where he is. he has appeard here116:05
MezAlanBell: been told by davmor2 to let you know that on the Quantal login screen, if you try to use the on screen keyboard - it won't let you enter anything in the password field (thus rendering the on screen keyboard useless)16:13
bigcalmI've offered Hayley a meal at one of our local balti houses or a night in a local pub. About the same cost as each other. Wonder what it shall be16:14
davmor2bigcalm: chinese16:15
bigcalmdavmor2: not really an option was it?16:15
Mezbigcalm: I think that was the point.16:16
Mez(It's kinda amusing to sit here listening to davmor2 giggling to himself at the other side of the room)16:16
bigcalmMez: I experience it in person every 2 weeks16:17
MezMy condolences.16:19
Laneysteak'n'chips16:20
bigcalmThe night in the local pub would be for drinks only. The food there is darn expensive16:20
popeyMez, confirmed, thats broken16:24
popeyMez, filed bug 1047500 for you16:30
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1047500 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "on screen keyboard doesn't work for password field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104750016:30
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popeydavmor2, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/104747317:15
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 1047473 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox play button has an odd square around it." [Undecided,New]17:15
popeywas that ATI card?17:15
JamesTaitHave a great weekend, everyone!17:29
davmor2popey Intel17:31
popeyta17:32
popeyi cant reproduce it, can't see it in fact17:32
popeycan you take a picture?17:32
davmor2No tried it just flickers the box up.  But the big problem was neither recorder would grab it17:34
davmor2I''ll try kazam with a different format tomorrow17:35
popeyok17:38
AlanBellMez: right, thanks it was pretty grim in Precise too, I will check in Quantal as well18:21
AlanBelloh, popey already did, cool18:24
popeyyeah, i filed the same bug against precise :)18:31
gingerlinghi21:09
gingerlingcan someone tell me the command to move a file as root from documents to /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf21:10
gingerlingplease :)21:12
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popeygingerling, what are you trying to do?21:15
gingerlingmove a config file i wrote into the right place as root21:15
AivarasGuys any one have issues with nvidia card while using only ext display?21:15
gingerlinghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1806897&page=1221:15
gingerlingvery last post on this21:16
gingerlingsudo cp -a21:16
gingerlingish?21:16
gingerlingdone it21:18
gingerlingnot done it21:19
gingerlingballs21:19
popeyi wouldn't copy over the top of it21:19
popeyI'd edit the file in-situ21:19
gingerlingthere is no file atm21:19
gingerlingits a new file21:19
popeyah ok21:20
gingerlingso far we have tried sudo cp -a /anne/documents/NAME /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf21:21
gingerlingnot working21:21
gingerlingalso tried home/anne/documents/NAME21:21
gingerlingdidnt work21:21
gingerlingtrying capital letter21:22
AivarasIs there any fancy command then using nano to not make new file but directory too? like 'nano <something here>  /new_dir/newfile' ?21:23
gingerlingdone it21:24
gingerling!! :)21:24
mgdmAivaras: probably not. mkdir -p /new_dir && nano /new_dir/newfile21:28
Laneyget-iplayer++21:32
alexcockellFrom the looks of things on the mailing lists etc - I haven't accepted the LTS upgrade offer in Update Manager - looks as though I'm right to do so?21:33
alexcockellI'm on a Lenovo Ideapad S12 - Intel Atom and nVidia ION 1...21:33
Laneywhy?21:33
AivarasI'm planing to buy new laptop, should I look for intel card or nvidia? Looking from drivers point of view.21:42
popeydepends what you want to use the laptop for Aivaras21:45
AivarasI now have problem that if I use only ext screen drivers keep crashing randomly with nvidia card. In linux and in windows. It sucks...21:46
Aivaraspopey: it is not about special needs, intel 4000 would be enouth powerfull for me.21:49
popeyI have only bought intel based machines recently21:52
AivarasAnd no problems at all?21:52
popeynot recently21:52
popeyI have a desktop and laptop, both only intel21:52
popeyi have one nvidia machine which i only use for testing21:53
AivarasI have nvidia desktop and laptop :D21:53
alexcockellReckon I've held off with the upgrade as I'm nto quite ready to be flung into the world of Unity...22:05
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