[04:40] <pinky-> saying 'Good Morning All!' to be the first;)
[04:56] <AlanBell> morning all
[04:57]  * AlanBell is om a train
[04:57] <MartijnVdS> again, already? :)
[05:09] <AlanBell> last shift today
[05:18] <daubers> Morning
[05:18] <MartijnVdS> \o daubers
[05:19]  * daubers starts work :(
[05:37] <MartijnVdS> daubers: Again & again & again & again..  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMy6X5cQul8 !
[06:25] <christel> morning lovelies
[06:25] <MartijnVdS> \o christel
[06:28] <christel> hellooooo my favourite dutch persone!
[06:28] <christel> -e
[06:28] <MartijnVdS> christel: did the mailman come yet? :)
[06:28] <christel> not yet! but he never comes early(!)
[06:29] <MartijnVdS> does he always ring twice?
[06:30] <christel> haha
[06:31] <christel> my postman doesn't like me i think, he doesn't ring even if i am in, he just leaves parcels and stuff for me at random places -- sometimes in the porch, sometimes he wraps them in giant plastic royal mail bags and hides them in my shrubs/bushes!
[06:31] <christel> on the rare occasion that we cross paths he tends to ask "when are you planning to stop ordering so much stuff" :(
[06:31] <MartijnVdS> ooh, parcel hide & seek
[06:32] <christel> i think he has concluded i am a shopoholic -- i merely feel i must make sure he doesn't end up out of a job!
[06:32] <MartijnVdS> Mine knows my name.. even when I ran into him at the post office, and he's always happy :)
[06:32] <christel> :D
[06:32] <christel> before i moved i had a wonderful postman
[06:34] <christel> i'd lost my card (debit card) and i was frantically searching the house for it, just about to give up and call the bank tohave it cancelled when i find my card in the porch, wrapped in a royal mail thingie with a note saying "spotted this in town, figured there couldn't be two people with this name! love, postie xx" (yes he actually signed it postie, xx)
[06:34] <MartijnVdS> haha :)
[06:34] <MartijnVdS> brilliant
[06:34] <christel> it made me very happy so the next day i left him a bottle of whisky on my doorstep to say thanks
[06:35] <christel> :)
[07:22] <bigcalm> Good (early) morning peeps :)
[07:26] <daubers> christel: Surely the answer to "when are you planning to stop ordering so much stuff" is "When I don't have such a wonderful postman"
[07:32] <christel> daubers: ahahaha
[07:33] <christel> "i only order stuff so that i get to see you" STALK STALK STAK :D:D
[07:33] <christel> i like it!
[07:33] <jacobw> lol
[07:35] <daubers> christel: Or use the response "After you come in for a coffee *wink*"
[07:35] <daubers> Although that might get awkward....
[07:59] <christel> daubers: hahaha
[08:03] <bigcalm> I had my new router for less than an hour yesterday and managed to brick it. I intentionally bought a model that was meant to be unbrickable :(
[08:04] <christel> well done!
[08:05] <bigcalm> I should get a t-shirt with "I void warranties" on it
[08:05] <bigcalm> Thank you :)
[08:12] <popey> bigcalm, what model?
[08:12] <bigcalm> WNDR3800
[08:12] <popey> morning all
[08:12] <bigcalm> Hi popey
[08:12] <popey> heh, i have the 3700
[08:12] <popey> three in fact
[08:12] <bigcalm> Yep, I took that advice and looked to see if there was a newer version
[08:12] <popey> wanna buy one of mine off me? :)
[08:12] <bigcalm> popey: did you have _any_ problems with openwrt?
[08:13] <bigcalm> Heh
[08:13] <bigcalm> I just spent 90ish quid on this one, I'd like it to work :)
[08:13] <popey> i had one problem yesterday, the AP dropped off the network so turned it off
[08:13]  * popey turns it back on
[08:17] <JamesTait> Happy Friday, folks! :-D
[08:20] <hoover> morning folks
[08:23] <davmor2> Morning all you funky people
[08:24]  * bigcalm does the funky gibbon
[08:30] <diplo> morning all
[08:34] <hoover> morning diplo
[08:35] <gord> no funky gibbioning. its banned.
[08:36] <JohnRobert> do do do the funky gibbon
[09:12] <brobostigon> good mornign everyone.
[09:15] <mungojerry> good news that rpi rev2 is made in wales :D
[09:15] <brobostigon> :)
[09:22] <MartijnVdS> it's made from whales?
[09:23] <brobostigon> lol
[09:38] <directhex> you're telling me that the dragon 32 is no longer the welshest home computer ever? :(
[09:46] <JohnRobert> whelshest
[09:59] <mungojerry> i met the worlds most welsh lady yesterday, proper gavin and stacey. then the phoen rang and she picked it up and her voice was completely different
[10:03] <TheOpenSourcerer> A bunch of us went to Swansea last weekend for a weekend of Golf and drinking and general merryment.
[10:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> Man - di dwe meet some Welsh stereotypes - especially the Gavin & Stacy types.
[10:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> WIND street on a saturday night was like those places you see on TV - Loads of incredibly drunk youth (many in next to no clothes) all falling about.
[10:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> Was good natured on the whole mind you.
[10:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> Peeps were very friendly.
[10:13] <diplo> And the ladies are rather nice looking I found :)
[10:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> Some are - some are not.
[10:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> Many should most definitely have been wearing more clothes.
[10:14] <diplo> heh, I had my kids so only saw the day time girlies and was quite impressed!
[10:15] <christel> what is a "garden party" and what do you wear to one?
[10:16] <christel> or is it just a posh way of saying "bbq"? :)
[10:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> christel: It is a party in a garden.
[10:16] <daubers> TheOpenSourcerer: Wind street is commonly known as Wine street
[10:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> As to clothes - try a dress and a hat
[10:16] <christel> "garden party" puts me in mind of those dos the queen has, for which people wear Hats!
[10:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hat's are quite common for Garden parties.
[10:16] <christel> and i have to attend a "garden party" this afternoon (one of my client's is throwing one)
[10:17] <daubers> christel: people don't wear hats, One wears ones best
[10:17] <christel> oh dear! i dont own a hat! do you think i could fashion a fascinator out of old computer parts?
[10:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> sorry - an abberant apostrophe slipped in there.
[10:17] <christel> oops clients*
[10:17] <christel> thankee
[10:17] <gord> tape monitor to head, have monitor display picture of hat. problem solved
[10:18] <christel> hahaha
[10:18] <brobostigon> lol
[10:18] <MartijnVdS> pragmatic :)
[10:18] <christel> i shall hire you as my fashion advisor
[10:18] <christel> :D
[10:18] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[10:18] <gord> i solve problems, its what i do
[10:21] <MartijnVdS> I wonder how I'm going to attach wires to that TINY TINY soldering point on my TINY TINY WR703N
[10:23] <daubers> MartijnVdS: With one of these http://www.somersetsolders.com/product.php/646/282/heavy_duty_550w_soldering_iron_ab3198 ?
[10:23] <MartijnVdS> daubers: .. yes
[10:37] <mungojerry> MartijnVdS, what are you doing with it?
[10:40] <MartijnVdS> mungojerry: adding a 1wire temperature sensor
[10:40] <mungojerry> then what?
[10:40] <MartijnVdS> mungojerry: and a tiny script to expose its current value over http
[10:40] <mungojerry> using it as a weather station?
[10:40] <MartijnVdS> so collectd can collect it :)
[10:40] <mungojerry> or env monitor
[10:41] <MartijnVdS> inside :)
[10:41] <mungojerry> soudns like you want an rpi
[10:41] <MartijnVdS> I already have the WR703n :)
[10:42] <MartijnVdS> and doesn't the RPi have ethernet/USB problems?
[10:42] <mungojerry> does it?
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> https://plus.google.com/100403777541206648979/posts/eVrbMTL51C7
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> well http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/08/24/2228251/serious-problems-with-usb-and-ethernet-on-the-raspberry-pi really
[10:43] <BigRedS> allegedly a firmware update cured them
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> it has?
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> .. some say :)
[10:43] <BigRedS> well, that's the thing... :)
[10:44] <BigRedS> I want to believe it, but all the good things about RPi seem to come from crazy zealots who'd not mention any bad things anyway
[10:46] <MartijnVdS> fanbois
[10:46] <mungojerry> is the usb issue being worked on?
[10:47] <BigRedS> there's a USB issue too?
[10:47] <BigRedS> Man, all I want one for is to serve data over Ethernet from a USB disk...
[10:47] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: see the /. link
[10:47] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: $22 < £35 :)
[10:48] <BigRedS> ah yeah, I heard about the power
[10:48] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: and the TP-Link (WR703N) has an USB port as well :)
[10:48] <BigRedS> I find it really hard to be surprised that a system powered by a USB socket goes on to put out less-than-maximum power on its USB sockets.
[10:48] <BigRedS> feels like it's just playing inside the rules of thermodynamics, really :)
[10:49] <MartijnVdS> well, you should power it with an 1A-capable supply
[10:49] <MartijnVdS> and use a powered hub on the other end
[10:49] <MartijnVdS> that way, you'll always have enough power left over
[10:49] <MartijnVdS> but people think a tiny 500mA wall adapter is enough
[10:49] <MartijnVdS> and then want to power their 200mA wifi dongles _as well_ as the pi from that
[10:49] <MartijnVdS> and then things break
[10:50]  * popey tries to think of a reason to have a rpi in a car
[10:50] <BigRedS> yeah, that's what I thought tht problem was when I first saw it, I think that's why I dismissed it :)
[10:50] <MartijnVdS> popey: xbmc for the kids
[10:50] <popey> heh, good call!
[10:50] <MartijnVdS> popey: audio player thingy (GPIOs for buttons on the steering wheel)
[10:50] <BigRedS> popey: I've plans for an automagic podcast downloader that downloads whenever it's parked within WiFi
[10:50] <BigRedS> Not the sort of plans I'm actually going to do anything about, mind
[10:51] <popey> heh
[10:59] <Laney> czajkowski: can you put me on The List for tomorrow please?
[11:00] <czajkowski> sure
[11:00] <Laney> cheers
[11:01] <Laney> I'll probably be there earlier than you mind
[11:01] <czajkowski> yeah but everyone has to meet in the reception area so I cna bring you all up in one go
[11:01] <czajkowski> swipe access
[11:01] <Laney> speaking to #bluefin about it
[11:02] <Laney> failing that xnox can sort me out ;-)
[11:02]  * Laney puts the slow cooker on
[11:06] <czajkowski> Laney: also remind xnox he needs to reply also
[11:06] <czajkowski> betwen irc and pms and email want to make sure I have everyone
[11:13] <pinky-> omg I just saw an advert on tv for Christmas
[11:23] <JohnRobert> yeah I'd quite like to get a christmas
[11:24] <pinky-> double portion
[11:30] <pinky-> but if you buy it now, maybe a bit moldy in 3 months time
[12:11] <SuperMatt> bit confused why I don't have whois in quantal..
[12:11] <SuperMatt> or indeed in precise
[12:12] <SuperMatt> seems a bit mental to have to install it
[12:13] <gord> why?
[12:14] <SuperMatt> well, its such a tiny, very useful tool
[12:14] <gord> for what you specificly do, not really for a desktop os
[12:14] <SuperMatt> I guess
[12:14] <gord> i love vim, think it should be installed by default, no one listens to me either ;)
[12:14] <SuperMatt> I guess I've had it in previous installs, I kinda expected to see it in my current install
[12:24] <The_Fred> hello
[12:25] <bigcalm> What have I missed today?
[12:26] <The_Fred> i was wondering the same thing..
[12:26] <The_Fred> Terry nutkins has passed on
[12:26] <bigcalm> Oh no :(
[12:26] <The_Fred> yea :(
[12:26]  * kvarley is now in love with Unity and he never thought it would happen.
[12:27] <The_Fred> the gover'ment is giving a big tax break to oil production in the north sea
[12:27] <The_Fred> and then i got to depressed to read any more news
[12:34] <bootlkhtg> AlanBell, Hi there  , Saw your postcard on google Plus : What an excellent way to promote your business ..... way cool !
[12:34] <MartijnVdS> bootlkhtg: but.. it's christel's postcard :)
[12:35] <MartijnVdS> bootlkhtg: to AlanBell (and the rest of us)
[12:35] <bootlkhtg> O)H Ok, Well who's-ever it is ... I thought it was smashing !
[12:35] <hoover> cheers all, have a nice weekend
[12:36] <christel> bootlkhtg: haha it was my "HELLO #ubuntu-uk" card :D
[12:36] <christel> i figured since AlanBell is "Mr. UK" he'd be the appropriate recipient
[12:36] <christel> (soon to be competing in mr. universe i've heard)
[12:36] <TheOpenSourcerer> orly?
[12:36] <TheOpenSourcerer> ;-)
[12:36] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: competing with you
[12:36] <christel> also on the subject of POST -- MartijnVdS's KILO of dutch yummy things for us farnham-ites to share has just arrived at my doorstep!
[12:37] <bootlkhtg> christel, A cyber-crush , I detect ?
[12:37] <MartijnVdS> christel: \o/
[12:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> He sits opposite me (when he's at work that is)
[12:37] <MartijnVdS> christel: that's VERY quick
[12:37] <christel> MartijnVdS: yes! i am impressed :D
[12:37] <MartijnVdS> christel: they knew it was being track&traced :)
[12:37] <MartijnVdS> christel: also, poidh ;)
[12:37] <christel> TheOpenSourcerer: i shall bring dutch delights(!?) and come have coffee @ your office soon (well, when AlanBell decides to stop not going to work!)
[12:38] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hmmm - My idea of Dutch delights may not be the same as yours ;-)
[12:38] <christel> hahaha
[12:38] <christel> not even the same district i think... :P
[12:38] <MartijnVdS> christel: Take pictures, convince the alans :)
[12:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> Can you smoke them?
[12:39] <christel> well, we could try
[12:39] <christel> but i think they were meant for eating
[12:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oooh cackes!
[12:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> cakes
[12:40] <bootlkhtg> Can I have some cake plz ... I a little peckish !
[12:40] <bootlkhtg> **I'm
[12:40] <bootlkhtg> I can only  give free-hugs in return thou ... good trade ?
[12:40]  * TheOpenSourcerer just wandered into Farnham, & had a wrap and a cold drink in the Park. Followed by an Ice Cream. nom nom
[12:40] <christel> tis a nice day
[12:41] <christel> i shall shortly head farnham-wards for this silly garden party
[12:41] <christel> but because i am dreadfully shy and it will be full of strange people i shall go via the pub
[12:41] <christel> :D
[12:41] <bigcalm> It's a lovely day indeed. Perfect for being in the office
[12:41] <bootlkhtg> TheOpenSourcerer, Was it a whippy (#99) or a raspberry ripple ?
[12:41] <christel> for some dutch courage to stick with the dutch theme
[12:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> A Magnum Infinity (or something like that)
[12:42] <bootlkhtg> Yeah mint's the best !
[12:42] <MartijnVdS> ooh
[12:42] <MartijnVdS> I have http://www.loveicecream.com/nl_nl/products/festini/festini/74/default.aspx
[12:43] <bootlkhtg> ...Raspberry, Mint we'll be talking about milkshakes next ... or am I thinkin' Linux subconcously all the time ?>
[12:45] <mungojerry> more like pimms
[12:46] <The_Fred> pimms linux? is that for snobs?
[12:46] <The_Fred> :)
[12:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> hmm - if I have a tree of code some of it currently symlinked to a different dir, can I copy the data from the symlinked place into the target so I can then break the symlink?
[12:47] <The_Fred> TheOpenSourcerer, yes
[12:47] <The_Fred> TheOpenSourcerer, as long as the new destination is not on the synlink'd tree
[12:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> give us a cluebat then The_Fred
[12:47] <The_Fred> *symlinked
[12:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> ah OK.
[12:48] <bootlkhtg> The first edition of the "Gimp" is out if anyone want to copy and paste the following into their browsers :: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0B7767D2F224585DBED98F2807E401ECFD564F42&dn=GIMP%2bMagazine%2bIssue%2b1.pdf&tr=udp%3a//tracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80
[12:48] <bootlkhtg> It's creative commons anyway !
[12:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> I'll just need to create some tem dires and copy the stuff in then rename them once remove symlink. I was hoping to avoid that.
[12:48] <MartijnVdS> use hard links next time :)
[12:49] <The_Fred> odd - i was facing the same problem last night - then i found a batch file renamer which solved my issue :)
[12:49] <The_Fred> TheOpenSourcerer,  cluebat..... i lke that..
[12:50] <MartijnVdS> uhr
[12:50] <MartijnVdS> The_Fred: rename, comes with perl (= comes with linux, basically), uses regexes to rename files
[12:52] <The_Fred> MartijnVdS, i used pyRenamer because i was short on time
[12:52] <MartijnVdS> but
[12:52] <MartijnVdS> that's not in the default install!
[12:52] <The_Fred> nope
[12:59] <bootlkhtg> christel, Just wondering, but have you spoken to Fjorgynn on the #twil (freenode) #channel, (thisweekinlinux.tv)  ... he's from Norway ...
[13:00] <MartijnVdS> bootlkhtg: All Norwegians have talked to all other Norwegians, didn't you know?
[13:00] <jacobw> fully meshed norwgians :o
[13:01] <MartijnVdS> first few weeks after birth are a bit hectic.. then it calms down :)
[13:01] <jacobw> lol
[13:02] <bootlkhtg> MartijnVdS, No I didn't  .. a kind of web 4.0 Norwegian brain as stated on page #105 of Robert David's Steele's -The Open-source Everything Manifesto  .... mmm   interesting
[13:09] <bootlkhtg> Where is everybody going to be on Software freedom day ? http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/en/sfd
[13:30] <czajkowski> right one last shout out
[13:30] <czajkowski> anyone else coming to London for UGJ tomorrow
[13:30] <czajkowski> speak now before I send in the list
[13:38] <davmor2> czajkowski: prod just cause I haven't
[13:49] <BigRedS> Me!
[13:49] <SuperMatt> ou!#
[13:49] <SuperMatt> You!
[13:50] <SuperMatt> don't know what happened there
[13:50] <BigRedS> But I emailed the list, so I guess I'm on your list already
[14:01] <MartijnVdS> SuperMatt: "YUO!"
[14:15] <AlanBell> afternoon all
[14:16] <brobostigon> afternoonings AlanBell
[14:17]  * AlanBell ponders beer
[14:17] <brobostigon> yummy. :)
[14:17] <AlanBell> or milkshake
[14:18] <brobostigon> also yummy :)
[14:20] <JohnRobert> tonight i'm tackling the m25 anti-clockwise
[14:20] <JohnRobert> anyone know what my chances are on a friday evening?
[14:21] <JohnRobert> cambs > southampton @ 5:30
[14:21] <JohnRobert> a1, m25, m3
[14:24] <gord> oh moterways. not guns then
[14:25] <JohnRobert> ?
[14:27] <TheOpenSourcerer> JohnRobert: Ha Ha Ha
[14:28] <TheOpenSourcerer> M25->M3 will be pants - either way round the M25 you decide to go
[14:28] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hi AlanBell - All done with the Olympics now?
[14:31] <SuperMatt> Couple of weeks ago I did two trips on the m25. Both of them had an additional 2 hours added to them
[14:34] <awilkins> Urrgh, Southampton
[14:34]  * awilkins crosses himself against Craig David
[14:43] <BigRedS> I've only ever once been caught in traffic that I wasn't helping cause
[14:43] <BigRedS> and that was on boxing day morning
[14:43] <BigRedS> er, traffic on the M25
[14:43] <BigRedS> but, yes, that's largely by just not going on it in the rush hour. Where in cambs are you going from?
[14:44] <BigRedS> actually, I think I came to the conclusion that there's no better way, just need to not do it when everyone else is
[15:18]  * popey pokes gord with https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1047449
[15:19] <popey> please to be confirmotronning?
[15:19]  * TheOpenSourcerer just got an invite to an exclusive party in December with a "free bar" :-D :-D :-D
[15:19] <AlanBell> theopensourcerer yes, all done
[15:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Great - di dyou have lots of fun?
[15:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> I hope you were a cheery Gamesmaker
[15:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> And not a grumpy one
[15:20] <AlanBell> yes, it was fun, better than expected
[15:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> You have been PAT tested today.
[15:21] <AlanBell> I tried to be grumpy but it didn't work
[15:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[15:24] <AlanBell> up for a pint shortly?
[15:25] <diplo> Yes!
[15:25] <diplo> :)
[15:25] <TheOpenSourcerer> AlanBell: who would you be asking?
[15:25] <bigcalm> 2 weeks until the Happy Hour :D
[15:25] <TheOpenSourcerer> And what is the occasion?
[15:26] <AlanBell> well anyone in the farn* area really
[15:26]  * TheOpenSourcerer is slaving over another vtiger CRM project in eclipse right now and is getting bored.
[15:26] <AlanBell> the occasipn is I want a pint
[15:26] <gord> popey, can't confirm, but my buttons don't seem to do anything at all
[15:27] <TheOpenSourcerer> Suggest a venue then.
[15:27] <TheOpenSourcerer> I won't be able to be out too late as I need to get home, have dinner, then go out for lots of pints :-D as it's Friday.
[15:27] <popey> hmm
[15:28] <popey> oooh!
[15:28] <popey> pints!?
[15:28] <TheOpenSourcerer> Good grief - wake up popey
[15:28] <MartijnVdS> and Dutch candy, if you can find christel :)
[15:29] <bigcalm> Heh
[15:29] <gord> i have new strange and exotic japanese candy, but its all for me
[15:30] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: Pepernoten, kruidnoten and chocolate-covered kruidnoten!
[15:32] <bigcalm> ...
[15:32] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: they're yummies!
[15:32] <bigcalm> Ok
[15:34] <AlanBell> well I am at Farnborough main right now
[15:35] <popey> oh!
[15:36] <AlanBell> shepherd and flock is good in the sun
[15:36] <AlanBell> open to other suggestions
[15:36] <popey> can't get away right now
[15:36] <popey> got calls
[15:36] <popey> nvm :(
[15:37] <AlanBell> or the mulberry
[15:37]  * AlanBell heads for farnham for a start
[15:39] <awilkins> NetBeans : yuck
[15:43] <diplo> It's ok awilkins, a little heavy
[15:43] <awilkins> I guess I'm just used to Eclipse
[15:44] <diplo> I couldn't get used to that if I'm honest, don't any of them the most though, they all have something I'd like in the other :/
[15:57]  * TheOpenSourcerer wonders where AlanBell has headed to.
[16:05]  * TheOpenSourcerer knows where he is. he has appeard here1
[16:13] <Mez> AlanBell: been told by davmor2 to let you know that on the Quantal login screen, if you try to use the on screen keyboard - it won't let you enter anything in the password field (thus rendering the on screen keyboard useless)
[16:14] <bigcalm> I've offered Hayley a meal at one of our local balti houses or a night in a local pub. About the same cost as each other. Wonder what it shall be
[16:15] <davmor2> bigcalm: chinese
[16:15] <bigcalm> davmor2: not really an option was it?
[16:16] <Mez> bigcalm: I think that was the point.
[16:16] <Mez> (It's kinda amusing to sit here listening to davmor2 giggling to himself at the other side of the room)
[16:17] <bigcalm> Mez: I experience it in person every 2 weeks
[16:19] <Mez> My condolences.
[16:20] <Laney> steak'n'chips
[16:20] <bigcalm> The night in the local pub would be for drinks only. The food there is darn expensive
[16:24] <popey> Mez, confirmed, thats broken
[16:30] <popey> Mez, filed bug 1047500 for you
[17:15] <popey> davmor2, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1047473
[17:15] <popey> was that ATI card?
[17:29] <JamesTait> Have a great weekend, everyone!
[17:31] <davmor2> popey Intel
[17:32] <popey> ta
[17:32] <popey> i cant reproduce it, can't see it in fact
[17:32] <popey> can you take a picture?
[17:34] <davmor2> No tried it just flickers the box up.  But the big problem was neither recorder would grab it
[17:35] <davmor2> I''ll try kazam with a different format tomorrow
[17:38] <popey> ok
[18:21] <AlanBell> Mez: right, thanks it was pretty grim in Precise too, I will check in Quantal as well
[18:24] <AlanBell> oh, popey already did, cool
[18:31] <popey> yeah, i filed the same bug against precise :)
[21:09] <gingerling> hi
[21:10] <gingerling> can someone tell me the command to move a file as root from documents to /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
[21:12] <gingerling> please :)
[21:15] <popey> gingerling, what are you trying to do?
[21:15] <gingerling> move a config file i wrote into the right place as root
[21:15] <Aivaras> Guys any one have issues with nvidia card while using only ext display?
[21:15] <gingerling> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1806897&page=12
[21:16] <gingerling> very last post on this
[21:16] <gingerling> sudo cp -a
[21:16] <gingerling> ish?
[21:18] <gingerling> done it
[21:19] <gingerling> not done it
[21:19] <gingerling> balls
[21:19] <popey> i wouldn't copy over the top of it
[21:19] <popey> I'd edit the file in-situ
[21:19] <gingerling> there is no file atm
[21:19] <gingerling> its a new file
[21:20] <popey> ah ok
[21:21] <gingerling> so far we have tried sudo cp -a /anne/documents/NAME /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
[21:21] <gingerling> not working
[21:21] <gingerling> also tried home/anne/documents/NAME
[21:21] <gingerling> didnt work
[21:22] <gingerling> trying capital letter
[21:23] <Aivaras> Is there any fancy command then using nano to not make new file but directory too? like 'nano <something here>  /new_dir/newfile' ?
[21:24] <gingerling> done it
[21:24] <gingerling> !! :)
[21:28] <mgdm> Aivaras: probably not. mkdir -p /new_dir && nano /new_dir/newfile
[21:32] <Laney> get-iplayer++
[21:33] <alexcockell> From the looks of things on the mailing lists etc - I haven't accepted the LTS upgrade offer in Update Manager - looks as though I'm right to do so?
[21:33] <alexcockell> I'm on a Lenovo Ideapad S12 - Intel Atom and nVidia ION 1...
[21:33] <Laney> why?
[21:42] <Aivaras> I'm planing to buy new laptop, should I look for intel card or nvidia? Looking from drivers point of view.
[21:45] <popey> depends what you want to use the laptop for Aivaras
[21:46] <Aivaras> I now have problem that if I use only ext screen drivers keep crashing randomly with nvidia card. In linux and in windows. It sucks...
[21:49] <Aivaras> popey: it is not about special needs, intel 4000 would be enouth powerfull for me.
[21:52] <popey> I have only bought intel based machines recently
[21:52] <Aivaras> And no problems at all?
[21:52] <popey> not recently
[21:52] <popey> I have a desktop and laptop, both only intel
[21:53] <popey> i have one nvidia machine which i only use for testing
[21:53] <Aivaras> I have nvidia desktop and laptop :D
[22:05] <alexcockell> Reckon I've held off with the upgrade as I'm nto quite ready to be flung into the world of Unity...