=== alexander is now known as Guest56824 [04:40] saying 'Good Morning All!' to be the first;) [04:56] morning all [04:57] * AlanBell is om a train [04:57] again, already? :) [05:09] last shift today [05:18] Morning [05:18] \o daubers [05:19] * daubers starts work :( [05:37] daubers: Again & again & again & again.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMy6X5cQul8 ! === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [06:25] morning lovelies [06:25] \o christel [06:28] hellooooo my favourite dutch persone! [06:28] -e [06:28] christel: did the mailman come yet? :) [06:28] not yet! but he never comes early(!) === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [06:29] does he always ring twice? [06:30] haha [06:31] my postman doesn't like me i think, he doesn't ring even if i am in, he just leaves parcels and stuff for me at random places -- sometimes in the porch, sometimes he wraps them in giant plastic royal mail bags and hides them in my shrubs/bushes! [06:31] on the rare occasion that we cross paths he tends to ask "when are you planning to stop ordering so much stuff" :( [06:31] ooh, parcel hide & seek [06:32] i think he has concluded i am a shopoholic -- i merely feel i must make sure he doesn't end up out of a job! [06:32] Mine knows my name.. even when I ran into him at the post office, and he's always happy :) [06:32] :D [06:32] before i moved i had a wonderful postman [06:34] i'd lost my card (debit card) and i was frantically searching the house for it, just about to give up and call the bank tohave it cancelled when i find my card in the porch, wrapped in a royal mail thingie with a note saying "spotted this in town, figured there couldn't be two people with this name! love, postie xx" (yes he actually signed it postie, xx) [06:34] haha :) [06:34] brilliant [06:34] it made me very happy so the next day i left him a bottle of whisky on my doorstep to say thanks [06:35] :) [07:22] Good (early) morning peeps :) === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [07:26] christel: Surely the answer to "when are you planning to stop ordering so much stuff" is "When I don't have such a wonderful postman" [07:32] daubers: ahahaha [07:33] "i only order stuff so that i get to see you" STALK STALK STAK :D:D [07:33] i like it! [07:33] lol [07:35] christel: Or use the response "After you come in for a coffee *wink*" [07:35] Although that might get awkward.... [07:59] daubers: hahaha [08:03] I had my new router for less than an hour yesterday and managed to brick it. I intentionally bought a model that was meant to be unbrickable :( [08:04] well done! [08:05] I should get a t-shirt with "I void warranties" on it [08:05] Thank you :) [08:12] bigcalm, what model? [08:12] WNDR3800 [08:12] morning all [08:12] Hi popey [08:12] heh, i have the 3700 [08:12] three in fact [08:12] Yep, I took that advice and looked to see if there was a newer version [08:12] wanna buy one of mine off me? :) [08:12] popey: did you have _any_ problems with openwrt? [08:13] Heh [08:13] I just spent 90ish quid on this one, I'd like it to work :) [08:13] i had one problem yesterday, the AP dropped off the network so turned it off [08:13] * popey turns it back on [08:17] Happy Friday, folks! :-D [08:20] morning folks [08:23] Morning all you funky people [08:24] * bigcalm does the funky gibbon [08:30] morning all [08:34] morning diplo [08:35] no funky gibbioning. its banned. [08:36] do do do the funky gibbon [09:12] good mornign everyone. [09:15] good news that rpi rev2 is made in wales :D [09:15] :) [09:22] it's made from whales? [09:23] lol [09:38] you're telling me that the dragon 32 is no longer the welshest home computer ever? :( [09:46] whelshest [09:59] i met the worlds most welsh lady yesterday, proper gavin and stacey. then the phoen rang and she picked it up and her voice was completely different [10:03] A bunch of us went to Swansea last weekend for a weekend of Golf and drinking and general merryment. [10:04] Man - di dwe meet some Welsh stereotypes - especially the Gavin & Stacy types. [10:04] WIND street on a saturday night was like those places you see on TV - Loads of incredibly drunk youth (many in next to no clothes) all falling about. [10:04] Was good natured on the whole mind you. [10:05] Peeps were very friendly. [10:13] And the ladies are rather nice looking I found :) [10:13] Some are - some are not. [10:13] Many should most definitely have been wearing more clothes. [10:14] heh, I had my kids so only saw the day time girlies and was quite impressed! [10:15] what is a "garden party" and what do you wear to one? [10:16] or is it just a posh way of saying "bbq"? :) [10:16] christel: It is a party in a garden. [10:16] TheOpenSourcerer: Wind street is commonly known as Wine street [10:16] As to clothes - try a dress and a hat [10:16] "garden party" puts me in mind of those dos the queen has, for which people wear Hats! [10:16] Hat's are quite common for Garden parties. [10:16] and i have to attend a "garden party" this afternoon (one of my client's is throwing one) [10:17] christel: people don't wear hats, One wears ones best [10:17] oh dear! i dont own a hat! do you think i could fashion a fascinator out of old computer parts? [10:17] sorry - an abberant apostrophe slipped in there. [10:17] oops clients* [10:17] thankee [10:17] tape monitor to head, have monitor display picture of hat. problem solved [10:18] hahaha [10:18] lol [10:18] pragmatic :) [10:18] i shall hire you as my fashion advisor [10:18] :D [10:18] ಠ_ಠ [10:18] i solve problems, its what i do [10:21] I wonder how I'm going to attach wires to that TINY TINY soldering point on my TINY TINY WR703N [10:23] MartijnVdS: With one of these http://www.somersetsolders.com/product.php/646/282/heavy_duty_550w_soldering_iron_ab3198 ? [10:23] daubers: .. yes [10:37] MartijnVdS, what are you doing with it? [10:40] mungojerry: adding a 1wire temperature sensor [10:40] then what? [10:40] mungojerry: and a tiny script to expose its current value over http [10:40] using it as a weather station? [10:40] so collectd can collect it :) [10:40] or env monitor [10:41] inside :) [10:41] soudns like you want an rpi [10:41] I already have the WR703n :) [10:42] and doesn't the RPi have ethernet/USB problems? [10:42] does it? [10:43] https://plus.google.com/100403777541206648979/posts/eVrbMTL51C7 [10:43] well http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/08/24/2228251/serious-problems-with-usb-and-ethernet-on-the-raspberry-pi really [10:43] allegedly a firmware update cured them [10:43] it has? [10:43] .. some say :) [10:43] well, that's the thing... :) [10:44] I want to believe it, but all the good things about RPi seem to come from crazy zealots who'd not mention any bad things anyway [10:46] fanbois [10:46] is the usb issue being worked on? [10:47] there's a USB issue too? [10:47] Man, all I want one for is to serve data over Ethernet from a USB disk... [10:47] BigRedS: see the /. link [10:47] BigRedS: $22 < £35 :) [10:48] ah yeah, I heard about the power [10:48] BigRedS: and the TP-Link (WR703N) has an USB port as well :) [10:48] I find it really hard to be surprised that a system powered by a USB socket goes on to put out less-than-maximum power on its USB sockets. [10:48] feels like it's just playing inside the rules of thermodynamics, really :) [10:49] well, you should power it with an 1A-capable supply [10:49] and use a powered hub on the other end [10:49] that way, you'll always have enough power left over [10:49] but people think a tiny 500mA wall adapter is enough [10:49] and then want to power their 200mA wifi dongles _as well_ as the pi from that [10:49] and then things break [10:50] * popey tries to think of a reason to have a rpi in a car [10:50] yeah, that's what I thought tht problem was when I first saw it, I think that's why I dismissed it :) [10:50] popey: xbmc for the kids [10:50] heh, good call! [10:50] popey: audio player thingy (GPIOs for buttons on the steering wheel) [10:50] popey: I've plans for an automagic podcast downloader that downloads whenever it's parked within WiFi [10:50] Not the sort of plans I'm actually going to do anything about, mind [10:51] heh [10:59] czajkowski: can you put me on The List for tomorrow please? [11:00] sure [11:00] cheers [11:01] I'll probably be there earlier than you mind [11:01] yeah but everyone has to meet in the reception area so I cna bring you all up in one go [11:01] swipe access [11:01] speaking to #bluefin about it [11:02] failing that xnox can sort me out ;-) [11:02] * Laney puts the slow cooker on [11:06] Laney: also remind xnox he needs to reply also [11:06] betwen irc and pms and email want to make sure I have everyone [11:13] omg I just saw an advert on tv for Christmas [11:23] yeah I'd quite like to get a christmas [11:24] double portion [11:30] but if you buy it now, maybe a bit moldy in 3 months time [12:11] bit confused why I don't have whois in quantal.. [12:11] or indeed in precise [12:12] seems a bit mental to have to install it [12:13] why? [12:14] well, its such a tiny, very useful tool [12:14] for what you specificly do, not really for a desktop os [12:14] I guess [12:14] i love vim, think it should be installed by default, no one listens to me either ;) [12:14] I guess I've had it in previous installs, I kinda expected to see it in my current install [12:24] hello [12:25] What have I missed today? [12:26] i was wondering the same thing.. [12:26] Terry nutkins has passed on [12:26] Oh no :( [12:26] yea :( [12:26] * kvarley is now in love with Unity and he never thought it would happen. === alexander is now known as Guest29702 [12:27] the gover'ment is giving a big tax break to oil production in the north sea [12:27] and then i got to depressed to read any more news === darren is now known as Guest96160 [12:34] AlanBell, Hi there , Saw your postcard on google Plus : What an excellent way to promote your business ..... way cool ! [12:34] bootlkhtg: but.. it's christel's postcard :) [12:35] bootlkhtg: to AlanBell (and the rest of us) [12:35] O)H Ok, Well who's-ever it is ... I thought it was smashing ! [12:35] cheers all, have a nice weekend [12:36] bootlkhtg: haha it was my "HELLO #ubuntu-uk" card :D [12:36] i figured since AlanBell is "Mr. UK" he'd be the appropriate recipient [12:36] (soon to be competing in mr. universe i've heard) [12:36] orly? [12:36] ;-) [12:36] TheOpenSourcerer: competing with you [12:36] also on the subject of POST -- MartijnVdS's KILO of dutch yummy things for us farnham-ites to share has just arrived at my doorstep! [12:37] christel, A cyber-crush , I detect ? [12:37] christel: \o/ [12:37] He sits opposite me (when he's at work that is) [12:37] christel: that's VERY quick [12:37] MartijnVdS: yes! i am impressed :D [12:37] christel: they knew it was being track&traced :) [12:37] christel: also, poidh ;) [12:37] TheOpenSourcerer: i shall bring dutch delights(!?) and come have coffee @ your office soon (well, when AlanBell decides to stop not going to work!) [12:38] Hmmm - My idea of Dutch delights may not be the same as yours ;-) [12:38] hahaha [12:38] not even the same district i think... :P [12:38] christel: Take pictures, convince the alans :) [12:39] Can you smoke them? [12:39] well, we could try [12:39] but i think they were meant for eating [12:39] Oooh cackes! [12:39] cakes [12:40] Can I have some cake plz ... I a little peckish ! [12:40] **I'm [12:40] I can only give free-hugs in return thou ... good trade ? [12:40] * TheOpenSourcerer just wandered into Farnham, & had a wrap and a cold drink in the Park. Followed by an Ice Cream. nom nom [12:40] tis a nice day [12:41] i shall shortly head farnham-wards for this silly garden party [12:41] but because i am dreadfully shy and it will be full of strange people i shall go via the pub [12:41] :D [12:41] It's a lovely day indeed. Perfect for being in the office [12:41] TheOpenSourcerer, Was it a whippy (#99) or a raspberry ripple ? [12:41] for some dutch courage to stick with the dutch theme [12:41] A Magnum Infinity (or something like that) [12:42] Yeah mint's the best ! [12:42] ooh [12:42] I have http://www.loveicecream.com/nl_nl/products/festini/festini/74/default.aspx [12:43] ...Raspberry, Mint we'll be talking about milkshakes next ... or am I thinkin' Linux subconcously all the time ?> [12:45] more like pimms [12:46] pimms linux? is that for snobs? [12:46] :) [12:46] hmm - if I have a tree of code some of it currently symlinked to a different dir, can I copy the data from the symlinked place into the target so I can then break the symlink? [12:47] TheOpenSourcerer, yes [12:47] TheOpenSourcerer, as long as the new destination is not on the synlink'd tree [12:47] give us a cluebat then The_Fred [12:47] *symlinked [12:48] ah OK. [12:48] The first edition of the "Gimp" is out if anyone want to copy and paste the following into their browsers :: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0B7767D2F224585DBED98F2807E401ECFD564F42&dn=GIMP%2bMagazine%2bIssue%2b1.pdf&tr=udp%3a//tracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80 [12:48] It's creative commons anyway ! [12:48] I'll just need to create some tem dires and copy the stuff in then rename them once remove symlink. I was hoping to avoid that. [12:48] use hard links next time :) [12:49] odd - i was facing the same problem last night - then i found a batch file renamer which solved my issue :) [12:49] TheOpenSourcerer, cluebat..... i lke that.. [12:50] uhr [12:50] The_Fred: rename, comes with perl (= comes with linux, basically), uses regexes to rename files [12:52] MartijnVdS, i used pyRenamer because i was short on time [12:52] but [12:52] that's not in the default install! [12:52] nope [12:59] christel, Just wondering, but have you spoken to Fjorgynn on the #twil (freenode) #channel, (thisweekinlinux.tv) ... he's from Norway ... [13:00] bootlkhtg: All Norwegians have talked to all other Norwegians, didn't you know? [13:00] fully meshed norwgians :o [13:01] first few weeks after birth are a bit hectic.. then it calms down :) [13:01] lol [13:02] MartijnVdS, No I didn't .. a kind of web 4.0 Norwegian brain as stated on page #105 of Robert David's Steele's -The Open-source Everything Manifesto .... mmm interesting [13:09] Where is everybody going to be on Software freedom day ? http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/en/sfd === Guest96160 is now known as darren83 [13:30] right one last shout out [13:30] anyone else coming to London for UGJ tomorrow [13:30] speak now before I send in the list [13:38] czajkowski: prod just cause I haven't [13:49] Me! [13:49] ou!# [13:49] You! [13:50] don't know what happened there [13:50] But I emailed the list, so I guess I'm on your list already [14:01] SuperMatt: "YUO!" [14:15] afternoon all [14:16] afternoonings AlanBell [14:17] * AlanBell ponders beer [14:17] yummy. :) [14:17] or milkshake [14:18] also yummy :) [14:20] tonight i'm tackling the m25 anti-clockwise [14:20] anyone know what my chances are on a friday evening? [14:21] cambs > southampton @ 5:30 [14:21] a1, m25, m3 [14:24] oh moterways. not guns then [14:25] ? [14:27] JohnRobert: Ha Ha Ha [14:28] M25->M3 will be pants - either way round the M25 you decide to go [14:28] Hi AlanBell - All done with the Olympics now? [14:31] Couple of weeks ago I did two trips on the m25. Both of them had an additional 2 hours added to them [14:34] Urrgh, Southampton [14:34] * awilkins crosses himself against Craig David [14:43] I've only ever once been caught in traffic that I wasn't helping cause [14:43] and that was on boxing day morning [14:43] er, traffic on the M25 [14:43] but, yes, that's largely by just not going on it in the rush hour. Where in cambs are you going from? [14:44] actually, I think I came to the conclusion that there's no better way, just need to not do it when everyone else is === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [15:18] * popey pokes gord with https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1047449 [15:18] Ubuntu bug 1047449 in Unity "Thinkpad previous/next keys trigger HUD" [Undecided,New] [15:19] please to be confirmotronning? [15:19] * TheOpenSourcerer just got an invite to an exclusive party in December with a "free bar" :-D :-D :-D [15:19] theopensourcerer yes, all done [15:20] Great - di dyou have lots of fun? [15:20] I hope you were a cheery Gamesmaker [15:20] And not a grumpy one [15:20] yes, it was fun, better than expected [15:21] You have been PAT tested today. [15:21] I tried to be grumpy but it didn't work [15:21] lol [15:24] up for a pint shortly? [15:25] Yes! [15:25] :) [15:25] AlanBell: who would you be asking? [15:25] 2 weeks until the Happy Hour :D [15:25] And what is the occasion? [15:26] well anyone in the farn* area really [15:26] * TheOpenSourcerer is slaving over another vtiger CRM project in eclipse right now and is getting bored. [15:26] the occasipn is I want a pint [15:26] popey, can't confirm, but my buttons don't seem to do anything at all [15:27] Suggest a venue then. [15:27] I won't be able to be out too late as I need to get home, have dinner, then go out for lots of pints :-D as it's Friday. [15:27] hmm [15:28] oooh! [15:28] pints!? [15:28] Good grief - wake up popey [15:28] and Dutch candy, if you can find christel :) [15:29] Heh [15:29] i have new strange and exotic japanese candy, but its all for me [15:30] bigcalm: Pepernoten, kruidnoten and chocolate-covered kruidnoten! [15:32] ... [15:32] bigcalm: they're yummies! [15:32] Ok [15:34] well I am at Farnborough main right now [15:35] oh! [15:36] shepherd and flock is good in the sun [15:36] open to other suggestions [15:36] can't get away right now [15:36] got calls [15:36] nvm :( [15:37] or the mulberry [15:37] * AlanBell heads for farnham for a start [15:39] NetBeans : yuck [15:43] It's ok awilkins, a little heavy [15:43] I guess I'm just used to Eclipse [15:44] I couldn't get used to that if I'm honest, don't any of them the most though, they all have something I'd like in the other :/ [15:57] * TheOpenSourcerer wonders where AlanBell has headed to. === punked- is now known as pinky- [16:05] * TheOpenSourcerer knows where he is. he has appeard here1 [16:13] AlanBell: been told by davmor2 to let you know that on the Quantal login screen, if you try to use the on screen keyboard - it won't let you enter anything in the password field (thus rendering the on screen keyboard useless) [16:14] I've offered Hayley a meal at one of our local balti houses or a night in a local pub. About the same cost as each other. Wonder what it shall be [16:15] bigcalm: chinese [16:15] davmor2: not really an option was it? [16:16] bigcalm: I think that was the point. [16:16] (It's kinda amusing to sit here listening to davmor2 giggling to himself at the other side of the room) [16:17] Mez: I experience it in person every 2 weeks [16:19] My condolences. [16:20] steak'n'chips [16:20] The night in the local pub would be for drinks only. The food there is darn expensive [16:24] Mez, confirmed, thats broken [16:30] Mez, filed bug 1047500 for you [16:30] Launchpad bug 1047500 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "on screen keyboard doesn't work for password field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047500 === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [17:15] davmor2, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1047473 [17:15] Ubuntu bug 1047473 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox play button has an odd square around it." [Undecided,New] [17:15] was that ATI card? [17:29] Have a great weekend, everyone! [17:31] popey Intel [17:32] ta [17:32] i cant reproduce it, can't see it in fact [17:32] can you take a picture? [17:34] No tried it just flickers the box up. But the big problem was neither recorder would grab it [17:35] I''ll try kazam with a different format tomorrow [17:38] ok [18:21] Mez: right, thanks it was pretty grim in Precise too, I will check in Quantal as well [18:24] oh, popey already did, cool [18:31] yeah, i filed the same bug against precise :) [21:09] hi [21:10] can someone tell me the command to move a file as root from documents to /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf [21:12] please :) === punked- is now known as pinky- [21:15] gingerling, what are you trying to do? [21:15] move a config file i wrote into the right place as root [21:15] Guys any one have issues with nvidia card while using only ext display? [21:15] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1806897&page=12 [21:16] very last post on this [21:16] sudo cp -a [21:16] ish? [21:18] done it [21:19] not done it [21:19] balls [21:19] i wouldn't copy over the top of it [21:19] I'd edit the file in-situ [21:19] there is no file atm [21:19] its a new file [21:20] ah ok [21:21] so far we have tried sudo cp -a /anne/documents/NAME /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf [21:21] not working [21:21] also tried home/anne/documents/NAME [21:21] didnt work [21:22] trying capital letter [21:23] Is there any fancy command then using nano to not make new file but directory too? like 'nano /new_dir/newfile' ? [21:24] done it [21:24] !! :) [21:28] Aivaras: probably not. mkdir -p /new_dir && nano /new_dir/newfile [21:32] get-iplayer++ [21:33] From the looks of things on the mailing lists etc - I haven't accepted the LTS upgrade offer in Update Manager - looks as though I'm right to do so? [21:33] I'm on a Lenovo Ideapad S12 - Intel Atom and nVidia ION 1... [21:33] why? [21:42] I'm planing to buy new laptop, should I look for intel card or nvidia? Looking from drivers point of view. [21:45] depends what you want to use the laptop for Aivaras [21:46] I now have problem that if I use only ext screen drivers keep crashing randomly with nvidia card. In linux and in windows. It sucks... [21:49] popey: it is not about special needs, intel 4000 would be enouth powerfull for me. [21:52] I have only bought intel based machines recently [21:52] And no problems at all? [21:52] not recently [21:52] I have a desktop and laptop, both only intel [21:53] i have one nvidia machine which i only use for testing [21:53] I have nvidia desktop and laptop :D [22:05] Reckon I've held off with the upgrade as I'm nto quite ready to be flung into the world of Unity... === nothingspecial is now known as Bradd_Figg === Bradd_Figg is now known as Brad_Figg === Brad_Figg is now known as nothingspecial === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away