[00:05] <bkerensa> slangasek: In reality my fix was in before the freeze and Landscape team blocked it because they wanted to do a patch upstream
[00:06] <bkerensa> they had two cycles to make comments but wait till last minute
[00:06] <bkerensa> =/
[17:25] <bdmurray> bug 1010799 would be a good easy fix
[17:25] <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 1010799 in hellanzb (Ubuntu) "Hellanzb crash at startup." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010799
[18:02] <MaskilPDX> I have a vpn and Ubuntu question.  Anyone interested?
[18:05] <nathwill> ask away!
[18:05] <MaskilPDX> gotta run, sorry
[18:05] <MaskilPDX> be back on line later
[18:05] <nathwill> tease
[18:06] <MaskilPDX> I know ;)
[19:01] <MaskilPDX> nathwill, You still there?
[19:02] <nibalizer> MaskilPDX: i'm herer
[19:02] <nibalizer> i've been playing a lot with openvpn lately
[19:04] <MaskilPDX> Yea
[19:04] <MaskilPDX> What I am looking for is a VPN client on Ubuntu
[19:04] <MaskilPDX> the network manager was freaking out, using Wicd
[19:04] <MaskilPDX> Any suggestions
[19:04] <tgm4883> freaking out?
[19:04] <MaskilPDX> kept dropping my wireless connection
[19:05] <MaskilPDX> Unstable would be a better word
[19:06] <tgm4883> I've only used the VPN clients in NM
[19:08] <nibalizer> MaskilPDX: sorry only nm for me
[19:08] <nibalizer> one of our guys got it working in the cli but i don't have the infos for how
[19:11] <MaskilPDX> ok
[19:12] <MaskilPDX> I have been trying KVpnc
[19:13] <MaskilPDX> It has sooo many bells and whistles, that it's a bit more than I need
[19:13] <bkerensa> slangasek: is there a log I might look to to see why my laptop is having trouble connecting to a wireless AP? In one out of five boots in 12.10 my system just stalls and loops attempting to connect but it worked fine in 12.04
[19:13] <bkerensa> bdmurray: 1010799 ? hmm
[19:14] <bkerensa> bdmurray: it is a Debian bug though and has a fix committed upstream already
[19:14] <MaskilPDX> Do you know if I can have nm handle VPN, and Wicd handle network connections?
[19:18] <MaskilPDX> Looks like you can.  With Wicd installed, nm shows no connections, but allows you to create VPN connections.
[19:18] <MaskilPDX> cool
[19:19] <slangasek> bkerensa: should be in /var/log/syslog
[19:25] <bkerensa> slangasek: Would I need a freeze exception for fixing Bug #1010799
[19:25] <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 1010799 in hellanzb (Ubuntu) "Hellanzb crash at startup." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010799
[19:25] <slangasek> no
[19:26] <bkerensa> ok
[19:27] <bkerensa> bdmurray: Merge proposal now in for 1010799
[19:27] <bkerensa> bdmurray: feel free to share more low hanging fruit
[19:51] <bdmurray> bkerensa: it could use fixing for precise too
[20:00] <bkerensa> bdmurray: ok
[20:09] <bkerensa> https://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/ubuntu/quantal/hellanzb/fix-for-1010799/+merge/123348
[20:09] <bkerensa> https://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/ubuntu/precise/hellanzb/fix-for-957323/+merge/123358
[20:09] <bkerensa> bdmurray: done :)
[20:19] <bdmurray> bkerensa: it's actually already fixed in quantal - debian/patches/008-Twisted_11.1.0_compat.dpatch
[20:19] <bkerensa> >.<
[20:20] <bkerensa> bdmurray: hmm well it was there in the source when I branched it
[20:20] <bkerensa> =/
[20:20] <bdmurray> right because the source doesn't have the patches applied to it
[20:22] <bkerensa> ah
[20:25] <bdmurray> so the thing to do here is incorporate the changes in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/hellanzb/quantal/revision/13 and put them in the precise version of the package
[20:27] <bkerensa> bdmurray: ok so you want me to drop off the changes to the source then just add the dpatch and 00list?
[20:30] <bdmurray> bkerensa: yes, that sounds about right
[20:35] <nathwill> maskilpdx, what kind of vpn?
[20:36] <bkerensa> bdmurray: I have incorporated those changes into my branch that is merge proposed
[20:38] <bdmurray> bkerensa: the version number should be lower than the version in quantal otherwise people won't be able to upgrade the package
[20:38] <bkerensa> ah
[20:38] <bkerensa> bdmurray: what do you propose?
[20:39] <bkerensa> ubuntu1?
[20:39] <bdmurray> isn't that what is in quantal?
[20:39] <bkerensa> hmm
[20:39]  * bkerensa checks
[20:40] <bdmurray> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging
[20:40] <bdmurray> that has guidelines about package versioning
[20:42] <bdmurray> dpkg --compare-versions is helpful here
[20:42] <bdmurray> and the release should be precise-proposed
[20:53] <bkerensa> bdmurray: based on the versioning doc I don't understand what change would be required
[20:53] <bkerensa> precise is 0.13-6.1 where quantal is currently 0.13-6.1ubuntu1
[20:54] <bdmurray> 0.13-6.1ubuntu0 would work
[20:54] <bdmurray> or 1ubuntu0.12.04.1
[20:56] <bkerensa> bdmurray: ok pushed that change
[21:07] <bdmurray> bkerensa: great, the bug could still use SRU information - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates.  The testcase will be cake though!
[21:11] <bkerensa> bdmurray: what should I put for regression potential and other info?
[21:12] <bdmurray> bkerensa: well the regression potential is a statement of how things could go wrong and really since the app doesn't start at all it can't get much worse
[21:13] <bdmurray> bkerensa: a statement about this is fixed in debian and upstream may help too
[21:16] <bkerensa> bdmurray: I just file this SRU in a bug against the package right?
[21:16] <bkerensa> do I add any special headline or tags?
[21:16] <bdmurray> bkerensa: no, just modify bug 1010799
[21:16] <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 1010799 in hellanzb (Ubuntu Precise) "Hellanzb crash at startup." [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010799
[21:17] <bkerensa> bdmurray: Add it in or totally remove the old description?
[21:17] <bdmurray> bkerensa: I usually prepend the existing subscription with SRU information
[21:17] <bdmurray> because the existing bug description has a good stack trace etc....
[21:18] <bkerensa> bdmurray: ok I have prepended