[05:54] <Kilos> morning all
[05:57] <Squirm> ,prmomg
[05:57] <Squirm> umm, fingers positioned wrong
[05:57] <Squirm> morning
[05:57] <Kilos> hehe
[06:22] <magespawn> morning all
[06:22] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[06:23] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[06:23]  * Kilos sings the mtn song
[06:23] <Kilos> come on summer come on
[06:24] <magespawn> stopped raining here, weather is clearing 
[06:25] <Kilos> we only had 26mm but colder by the day
[06:26] <Kilos> poor old goosie onna bike
[06:47] <DigiGram> good morning all
[06:47] <Kilos> hi DigiGram 
[06:48] <DigiGram> any c++ programmers here?
[07:04] <DigiGram> I need some help on a bug, so if anyone knows a bit of c++, let me know pretty please
[07:05] <Kilos> DigiGram, most of the guys arent here yet
[07:05] <DigiGram> yeah I reckoned so, but if I leave the message here, I'll remember to copy/paste it later on again :)
[07:05] <Kilos> hehe
[07:22] <jrgns> morning all
[07:22] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[07:22] <DigiGram> morning jrgns 
[07:23] <jrgns> all doing good?
[07:23] <Kilos> ya and you?
[07:24] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[07:24] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:25] <jrgns> good thnx
[07:27] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:28] <jrgns> morning inetpro
[07:46] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[07:55] <Kilos> inetpro, how much? we totalled 26mm
[07:56] <inetpro> Kilos: hi, I'm not sure, forgot to check this morning
[07:56] <inetpro> but I don't think there was much more
[08:05] <Kilos> sjoe and natal get days of it
[08:05]  * Kilos cries
[08:06] <Kilos> hi BenoniMan 
[08:07] <Kilos> hehe
[08:07] <BenoniMan> kilos asl?
[08:07] <Kilos> asl?
[08:08] <Kilos> you on a blackberry?
[08:08] <BenoniMan> indeed
[08:11] <Kilos> wish we could get ubuntu-za away from chatmospheres sight
[08:38] <DigiGram> whats wrong with chatmosphere? I dont know it
[08:53] <Kilos> its a bb thing where all the peeps look for chicks DigiGram 
[08:53] <Kilos> been a few come here and ask "Any ladies present"
[08:55] <DigiGram> ah, one of those
[08:56] <DigiGram> well if any ladies know c++ please let me know. if you are a dude, I don't care, I want your brains for a few seconds, nothing else lol
[08:57] <Kilos> lol
[08:58] <Kilos> DigiGram, try joining ##c++
[08:58] <Kilos> dunno if the all them c++ peeps
[08:59] <Kilos> theres 576 of them there
[08:59] <DigiGram> I'll do that next week, for now I do not have time to answer all of their hard questions first lol
[08:59] <DigiGram> I'll try on Monday
[08:59] <Kilos> lol
[09:00] <Kilos> remember double # hey
[09:00] <DigiGram> jip
[09:00] <DigiGram> official channel
[09:01] <Kilos> i dunno, i opened a channel and it would give me the option of single #
[09:01] <Kilos> inetpro, knows why
[09:01] <Kilos> i think the single # are the official ones
[09:01] <DigiGram> ## is for official product channels, so if you want a channel for an app you have written, you get an ##
[09:02] <DigiGram> or that's what I've read
[09:04] <Kilos> weird, freenode didnt wanna give me a single # channel
[09:04] <DigiGram> oh wait, I see
[09:04] <DigiGram> I've got it the wrong way round
[09:04] <Kilos> lol
[09:05] <Kilos> whew
[09:05] <DigiGram> Primary channel names, formatted with a single leading hash mark (#), are reserved for participating groups and organizations based on their legal or informal claim to the associated name or name prefix
[09:05] <Kilos> they seem helpful though
[09:05] <DigiGram> Topical or reference channel names, formatted with two leading hash marks (##), are allocated on a first-come, first-serve basis to unofficial groups wishing to discuss a project, group or general topic area
[09:06] <Kilos> you just gotta go there and state everything so they dont need to ask questions
[09:06] <DigiGram> yeah but I know they will take me out on the fact that i has been used as a variable
[09:07] <Kilos> lol
[09:07] <DigiGram> but it's not my source code lol, it's an open source program where I want to fix two bugs, I think I know whats wrong, but I need someone to make sense of the c++ for me
[09:08] <DigiGram> I'll go and ask next week, brother's 21st this weekend
[09:13] <Kilos> big party
[09:14] <DigiGram> will see about that
[09:14] <Kilos> dunno if you gonna get c++ help here. but ask python and you will be sorted
[09:14] <DigiGram> kinda hope so, last big party I attended was my 21st lol
[09:14] <DigiGram> and even that wasn't a party
[09:14] <Kilos> lol
[09:14] <DigiGram> yeah well, Python is AWESOME
[09:20] <Squirm> python++
[09:20] <Squirm> Maaz: you're slacking
[09:20] <Maaz> Squirm: *blink*
[09:43] <DigiGram> I love HelloPeter...
[09:50] <Kilos> for cell probs?
[09:51] <DigiGram> had an issue with Game this month
[09:51] <DigiGram> they decided not to help me with warranty issues
[09:52] <Kilos> ah i didnt know he does other things too
[09:52] <Kilos> went there once for cell probs
[09:53] <DigiGram> Iv'e sorted issues with Game, Virgin Active, Discovery and Cell C via HelloPeter
[09:53] <Kilos> ah
[09:53] <DigiGram> when we have a problem my mother-in-law says: skryf vir Pietie 'n briefie
[09:53] <jrgns> lol
[09:54] <Kilos> hehe
[09:54] <jrgns> I got a lot of happiness after complaining about FNB on hello peter
[09:54] <jrgns> they jump through hoops if you post there
[09:54] <DigiGram> luckily I have had no issue with FNB so far, but they do
[09:54] <jrgns> that was before they had twitter, actually
[09:54] <DigiGram> Game went from not wanting to help me, to exchanging my 640GB HDD for 2x 500GB's
[09:55] <jrgns> lol, nice
[09:55] <Kilos> wow
[09:55] <DigiGram> since they do not get stock of the 640's, 750's or 1TB's at the moment
[10:13] <DigiGram> I think my grub is messed up... I can't boot my pc without having my bootable flash inserted. Weird thing is, it is not the grub on the flash that gets read, its the grub from the pc...
[10:30] <Kilos> use boot-repair
[10:30] <Kilos> what os are you using
[10:31] <DigiGram> mint13 and xp is also in the mix
[10:31] <Kilos> whew
[10:31] <DigiGram> what?
[10:31] <Kilos> Maaz, google boot-repair for mint13
[10:31] <Maaz> Kilos: "Linux Mint Forums • View topic - Make the Mint 13 32-bit Live ..." http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=108064 :: "Unable to install Mint 13 due to grub-efi issue - JustLinux Forums" http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=154183 :: "Linux Mint 13 (Maya) Has Arrived - Slashdot" http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/05/23/2049242/linux-mint-13-maya-has-arrived :: "Fix Grub Loader in Mint 13 | Firefox Extensi
[10:31] <DigiGram> another job for next weekend
[10:32] <Kilos> boot-repair works kiff with ubuntu
[10:32] <DigiGram> I just posted here because its a weird problem
[10:32] <DigiGram> I like mint, it looks like its basically ubuntu with a theme
[10:32] <Kilos> try sudo update-grub
[10:33] <DigiGram> update-grub might do the trick, will try on Monday
[10:33] <Kilos> lol
[10:33] <Kilos> or even aptitude reinstall grub
[10:33] <Kilos> grub2 or whatever
[10:34] <DigiGram> after work today I'm going to pickup my new hard drives, buy something for my brother, pick up some fish for my tank then set off for Jhb
[10:34] <DigiGram> thanx Kilos I forgot about that
[10:34] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[10:35] <Kilos> or grub-pc i forget which
[10:35] <DigiGram> I think its grub2 last time I used that command
[10:36] <DigiGram> but will google the smoke out of it if it does not work
[10:39] <Kilos> do you have a synaptic there
[10:39] <DigiGram> yes I do, thats why I like mint hehe
[10:40] <DigiGram> and apt
[10:40] <DigiGram> so I believe dpkg shoudl be there as well
[10:40] <Kilos> open synaptic and type in grub at the top
[10:40] <Kilos> then you will see whats installed
[10:41] <DigiGram> and I've just update one I have in a virtual from the ubuntu repo
[10:41] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[10:41] <psyatw> hi DigiGram 
[10:41] <DigiGram> hi psyatw 
[10:42] <DigiGram> grub-pc and grub2 it seems
[10:43] <Kilos> just right click and reinstall both
[10:43] <DigiGram> I'll do it when I'm home
[10:43] <DigiGram> thanx
[10:43] <Kilos> yw hope it works
[10:45] <Kilos> then it should run grub-cfg and sort your prob
[10:45] <Kilos> grub.cfg
[10:45] <Kilos> that thing
[10:46] <DigiGram> its just weird that the pc will boot fine when I have the USB in
[10:47] <Kilos> yeah
[10:56] <Squirm> try setting your BIOS to boot from hdd?
[11:13] <DigiGram> but isn't it supposed to skip checking the USB if no one is available?
[11:16] <Kilos> it cycles through the choices of whats available to boot from
[11:16] <DigiGram> precicly
[11:16] <Kilos> you set bios to choose priority boot 
[11:16] <Kilos> so if first and secong choices arent good it goes to third
[11:16] <Kilos> second
[12:17] <Kilos> precisely
[12:18] <Kilos> magespawn, 
[12:18] <Kilos> how busy are you
[12:19] <Kilos> got 2 pcs both showing connected via ethernet cable but dunno where to from here
[12:20] <Kilos> i cant see the one with the other, or vice versa
[12:44] <Squirm> good afternoon
[12:44] <Kilos> yo Squirm 
[14:18] <charlvn> good afternoon all
[15:47] <smile> hi :)
[16:31] <Kilos> hi smile Trix[a]r_za 
[16:32] <smile> :)
[16:33] <merryjay> Maaz, a martini please?
[16:33] <Maaz> merryjay: Go get it yourself!
[16:33] <merryjay> hehe
[16:35] <Kilos> hmm
[16:35] <merryjay> hi Kilos
[16:35] <Kilos> hi merryjay 
[16:35] <Kilos> who are you?
[16:36] <Kilos> only the nick is new
[16:37] <merryjay> think i've been panfried here before . 
[16:37] <Kilos> oh my goodnesss wb
[16:37] <merryjay> wb?
[16:37] <Kilos> welcome back
[16:37] <merryjay> ah. thanks
[16:41] <merryjay> well, a pleasant evening to you, Kilos. 
[16:41] <Kilos> ty merryjay you too
[16:43] <Kilos> yo aquarat 
[16:43] <aquarat> hi again Kilos 
[16:43] <aquarat> you're here quite a lot
[16:43] <aquarat> or we're just here at exactly the same time
[16:43] <Kilos> yeah i live here mostly
[16:43] <aquarat> lol
[16:43] <aquarat> kew
[16:43] <Kilos> lol
[16:45] <aquarat> :)
[16:45] <aquarat> it's ironic that I still come here seeing as I hardly use ubuntu these days, except for server stuff
[16:47] <Kilos> many of the guys dont use ubuntu
[16:47] <Kilos> all the other flavours
[16:50] <aquarat> I always look to the ubuntu forums for support for debian related stuff
[16:50] <aquarat> :P
[16:51] <Kilos> np, only if you only use winsucks then there will be eyebrows raised
[16:59] <merryjay> anyone tried out cuttlefish on ubuntu?
[17:02] <merryjay> was looking for empathy control via cuttlefish, but got distracted by googles startrek doodle]
[17:10] <smile> brb
[17:19] <inetpro> good evening
[17:29] <Kilos> evening inetpro 
[17:29] <Kilos> much easier to just say hi
[17:50] <Kilos> merryjay, you still here
[17:50] <Kilos> ?
[17:52] <merryjay> yes. mainly
[17:53] <Kilos> how does one use cuttlefish without going to look on youtube
[17:53] <Kilos> theres no man cuttlefish
[17:55] <merryjay> setup a reflex - reactions that must happen on a chosen stimulus
[17:56] <Kilos> ok ty i found this
[17:56] <Kilos> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/automate-ubuntu-with-cuttlefish
[17:56] <merryjay> and you can add your own actions and events via python plugins. pretty nice framework. this took watching the youtubes
[17:56] <Kilos> lol
[17:56] <Kilos> thanks
[17:57] <merryjay> yes, thats what led me into playing with it
[17:57] <merryjay> np
[17:57] <merryjay> that article i mean
[17:57] <Kilos> i will check it out
[17:57] <merryjay> looks like it could be useful
[18:02] <merryjay> i liked the startrek doodle btw - did you see it Kilos?
[18:03] <Kilos> nope
[18:24] <merryjay> its good. the google doodle of the day
[18:26] <nuvolari> o/ hello
[18:26] <nuvolari> helle merryjay 
[18:26] <nuvolari> *hello
[18:26] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos :>
[18:27] <nuvolari> and oom inetpro :P
[18:27]  * nuvolari covers his rear and runz away
[18:27] <inetpro> nuvolari: eh
[18:27] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[18:28] <inetpro> nuvolari: why you running son?
[18:29] <nuvolari> just in case you don't like being called oom :P
[18:29] <Kilos> hehe he doesnt know you throw stones far and accuratly
[18:29] <Kilos> acurrately
[18:29] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:29]  * nuvolari haal sy slingervel uit
[18:29] <Kilos> that thing
[18:29] <inetpro> :-)
[18:29] <inetpro> Kilos: accurately
[18:30] <Kilos> ty goosie
[18:30] <Kilos> koud vanaand
[18:30] <inetpro> Kilos: vrek koud ja
[18:32] <merryjay> hello nuvo, everybody.
[18:32] <merryjay> if i'm over 40, do i warrant oom as well?
[18:32] <merryjay> not yet?
[18:32] <magespawn> evening all
[18:33] <merryjay> evening
[18:33] <nuvolari> well... in the sense of 10y+, yes :P
[18:33] <nuvolari> *then yes
[18:33] <nuvolari> ahooi magespawn 
[18:33] <nuvolari> *ahoy
[18:33] <magespawn> lol
[18:34] <magespawn> so whats up tonight
[18:34] <Kilos> inetpro, ek het 2 pcs met kable aan mekaar vas en al twee wys konneksie aktief , nou hoe werk ek op die ander een van hier
[18:34] <Kilos> yo magespawn 
[18:34] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[18:35] <Kilos> see now he ducks
[18:43] <Kilos> too cold to sit here
[18:43] <Kilos> night guys sleep warm
[18:57] <nuvolari> Maaz: is fnb.co.za up
[18:57] <Maaz> nuvolari: No, http://fnb.co.za/ is down (Server is not responding)
[18:57] <nuvolari> o.O
[19:02] <nuvolari> *sigh*
[19:02] <nuvolari> I wonder if they heard about cloud services :P
[19:02] <nuvolari> for emergencies
[19:02] <nuvolari> twice in 1 year, everything down
[19:02] <nuvolari> uncool
[19:21] <nuvolari> Maaz: is fnb.co.za up?
[19:21] <Maaz> nuvolari: I'm not feeling too well
[19:22] <nuvolari> Maaz: is fnb.co.za up
[19:22] <nuvolari> :?
[19:22] <Maaz> nuvolari: I'm not feeling too well
[19:22] <nuvolari> lol
[19:22] <nuvolari> not asking if you feel well or not
[19:29] <superfly> nuvolari: try www. perhaps?
[20:07] <nuvolari> Maaz: is www.fnb.co.za up?
[20:07] <nuvolari> Maaz: is https://www.fnbe.co.za up?
[20:07] <Maaz> nuvolari: No, https://www.fnbe.co.za/ is down (Server is not responding)
[20:07] <nuvolari> ack
[20:07] <Maaz> nuvolari: No, https://www.fnb.co.za/ is down (Server is not responding)
[20:08] <nuvolari> Maaz: is https://www.fnb.co.za up?
[20:08] <Maaz> nuvolari: No, https://www.fnb.co.za/ is down (Server is not responding)
[20:08] <nuvolari> superfly: I think maaz is rebelling tonight
[20:09] <nuvolari> Maaz: are you high?
[20:09] <Maaz> nuvolari: Huh?
[20:09] <nuvolari> Maaz: nslookup fnb.co.za
[20:09] <Maaz> nuvolari: Records: 196.11.125.167
[20:09] <nuvolari> Maaz:  is 196.11.125.167 up?
[20:09] <Maaz> nuvolari: No, http://196.11.125.167/ is down (Bad Request)
[20:10] <nuvolari> ok, I give up
[20:10] <nuvolari> fnb is up
[20:10] <nuvolari> take it from me
[20:16] <tumbleweed> it's up, but seems fairly broken
[20:18] <tumbleweed> ah, not any more