[00:00] <wilee-nilee> qualia, there are channels that come up under unix which I think is correct
[00:01] <very> i hope i'll never have to upgrade from lucid. well, or i have to buy a new computer.
[00:01] <running_rabbit07> very, are you asking for help or ranting?
[00:01] <blackshirt> very, why ...?? You can update your critical updates
[00:03] <very> sorry, actually i don't think this problem is solvable. as long as i can update everything's fine anyway.
[00:03] <blackshirt> very, i don't know your problem
[00:03] <running_rabbit07> thanks for sharing very
[00:05] <running_rabbit07> Having issues with ubuntu 12.04 64 locking up during shutdowns and restarts. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[00:05] <very> blackshirt, the problem is that lucid is only "supported until April 2013". so i don't know what i'm going to do next year.
[00:05] <running_rabbit07> very, upgrade
[00:06] <running_rabbit07> 12.04 is supported for 5 years
[00:06] <very> i already tried every version above 10.04 and they didn't work.
[00:06] <blackshirt> very, that was not a big problem
[00:07] <running_rabbit07> very, what do you mean by, "they didn't work"?
[00:07] <running_rabbit07> the devil is in the details
[00:07] <blackshirt> very, what causes troubles?
[00:07] <uns0b1ll> greetz - is there an easy way to copy/paste from GNS3 Xterm to desktop ?
[00:07] <running_rabbit07> !lockups
[00:08] <very> sometimes my processor is not supported.
[00:08] <running_rabbit07> !ubottu, you don't seem to know much these days
[00:08] <asfd__> will updating my 12.10 alpha be the same as downloading the latest beta?
[00:08] <blackshirt> very, aha ?? Are you sure?
[00:08] <dr_willis> uns0b1ll:  for many X apps you can 'select' the middle click to paste from the selection buffer
[00:08] <dr_willis> select, THEN middle click.
[00:08] <sujit> hi- unity launchbar just disappear help
[00:08] <dr_willis> asfd__:  yes.
[00:08] <running_rabbit07> very, do you have 32bit and trying to use 64bit ISO?
[00:08] <uns0b1ll> it copy/paste within Xterm GNS windows but not outside them...
[00:09] <dr_willis> asfd__:  thats a main feature of the package manager system
[00:09] <asfd__> dr_willis: thanks
[00:09] <dr_willis> uns0b1ll:  theres some tools that can sync the clipboard with the selection buffer.
[00:09] <uns0b1ll> like i wanted to copy text from GNS XTERM window to browser or text file nothing happens
[00:09] <uns0b1ll> ohh
[00:09] <dr_willis> the 2  are differnt 'clipboards' i guess you can say
[00:09] <asfd__> I haven't really used Ubuntu or desktop linux in years
[00:09] <running_rabbit07> Having issues with ubuntu 12.04 64 locking up during shutdowns and restarts. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[00:09] <very> running_rabbit07, i have 32bit. without pae.
[00:09] <dr_willis> No idea what 'gns xterm' differs from a normal xterm.
[00:09] <uns0b1ll> so odd i would imagine xterm that was opened by GNS will have same access to memory buffer as
[00:10] <uns0b1ll> kernel or something
[00:10] <asfd__> especially after hearing all the complaints about the latest Ubuntu
[00:10] <asfd__> BUT
[00:10] <running_rabbit07> very, sounds like you might be using the wrong install images
[00:10] <asfd__> it's really really nice
[00:10] <dr_willis> uns0b1ll:  kernel has nothing to do with it.. its the X selection buffer.. vs the GNOME clipboard
[00:10] <uns0b1ll> there
[00:10] <uns0b1ll> u named it:)
[00:10] <asfd__> I'm surprised at how nice it is
[00:10] <dr_willis> asfd__:  people complain even if you give them what they want...
[00:10] <running_rabbit07> anyway, I am outty. can't seem to get any help hear myself.
[00:11] <uns0b1ll> so what tools can be used to sync everything with gnome clipboard :)
[00:11] <dr_willis> theres several clipboard tools in the repos. do a search. i dont know whats currently there
[00:11] <very> as far as i know 32bit processors must have pae for 12.04
[00:12] <Kelvinator> very, wrong
[00:12] <tucemiux_mob> anyone knows how to install java 7 se in ubuntu?
[00:12] <dr_willis> !java | tucemiux_mob
[00:12] <Kelvinator> 32bit installer works with 32bit processors.
[00:13] <tucemiux_mob> dr_willis, allow me to rephrase the question, anyone here ever installed java 7 se in ubuntu?
[00:14] <blackshirt> what the mean se??
[00:14] <dr_willis> blackshirt:  no idea.. and aparently neither does the search engines im checking. ;)
[00:14] <very> Kelvinator, mm.. maybe you're right. i think the netboot minimal iso could work. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[00:15] <blackshirt> very, you should trry to ensure your architecture
[00:16] <very> 32 bit without pae extension
[00:16] <very> i know it's 32bit.
[00:16] <Kelvinator> very, I stand corrected. Looks like the devs have cut out yet another group from enjoying ubuntu
[00:16] <blackshirt> very, what is you try to install?
[00:17] <dr_willis> I belive the 32bit Lubuntu install - installs a Non Pae kernel by default.
[00:17] <very> blackshirt, 12.04
[00:17] <blackshirt> amd64 release ?
[00:17] <Delta5130> hi
[00:17] <blackshirt> hi delta5130
[00:18] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[00:18] <very> 32bit. and.. i think intel. not sure where to look.
[00:18] <blackshirt> very, you not sure with your choices
[00:18] <very> dr_willis, yes, that's the link i've posted. probably i could try this netboot.
[00:19] <dr_willis> lubuntu and xubuntu both seem to come with non pae.. dident know that. ;P
[00:19] <tucemiux_mob> #java
[00:19] <blackshirt> very, if the older release works, i think the newes release should work too
[00:20] <very> blackshirt, but the newest release only works for processors with pae extension.
[00:21] <very> they removed support for non-pae cpus.
[00:22] <Kelvinator> because they decided to build 120.04 with the pae kernel instead of letting those with more than 4 gigs of ram install the pae kernel themselves.
[00:22] <Kelvinator> *12.04
[00:22] <very> actually i think that's a good decision.
[00:22] <uns0b1ll> hey dr_willis
[00:22] <very> most cpus should have pae by now.
[00:22] <uns0b1ll> u got any syncing tools man i cant find anything
[00:23] <qcjn> hi,  logger -p user.notice "fichier /tmp/f1.service : Accédé"  <== doesn't work ???  This is my line in rsyslog.conf . rsyslogd is running ? ==>user.* /var/log/suivi_monservice.log
[00:23] <Kelvinator> still not needed, unless ne has a lot of ram. Who would put that much ram who doesn't game on Windows
[00:24] <very> i'm not even sure if my netbook could handle 12.04
[00:24] <Kelvinator> my older netbook has 12.04
[00:24] <Kelvinator> though it is a bit slow
[00:24] <Kelvinator> with only 1GB ram
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> very, you can do a net load and use a non pae cpu with the mini cd
[00:25] <very> currently i'm running 10.04 and it's not that fast.
[00:26] <very> wilee-nilee, yes. i think i'm going to try that next year.
[00:26] <very> i tried xubuntu before and i didn't like it. and i never heard of lubuntu before.
[00:27] <Delta5130> hi
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> lubuntu is the lightestest of the ubuntu releases
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> lightest*
[00:27] <uns0b1ll> hey guys any1 knows why when i change color in my Xterm i cant use copy/paste buffer anymore?
[00:27] <uns0b1ll> xterm -T %d -bg DarkBlue -fg white -e 'telnet %h %p' >/dev/null 2>&1 &
[00:28] <uns0b1ll> thats how it looks now
[00:28] <uns0b1ll> is that ubuntu thing or ?
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> short of a server I guess.
[00:29] <Kelvinator> I wonder if installing lubuntu, then installing the ubuntu-desktop package would be a way to go
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> Kelvinator, this netbook have the atom chip as well??
[00:30] <Tester1234567> test
[00:30] <Tester1234567> test
[00:30] <Kelvinator> wilee-nilee, yes
[00:30] <Kelvinator> ubuntu 12.04 installed just fine for me, though
[00:30] <Tester1234567> test
[00:31] <uns0b1ll> fuk Xterm man !
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> Kelvinator, I have a aspireone with the atom, but 2 gigs of ram it runs pretty good, not as fast as the dual core 4 year old toshiba I use but quite tolerable with gnome 3.
[00:31] <uns0b1ll> switching to Gnome-terminal
[00:31] <Kelvinator> wilee-nilee, I plan to buy ram one day. I am always procrastinating
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> always max the ram if you can
[00:39] <Ozzy_boshi> hi chat could anybody help me with my ubuntu?
[00:40] <Daghdha> Is it possible to have my routerlog to the SMTP service server inside he ubuntu system?
[00:40] <Daghdha> SNMP
[00:40] <Daghdha> My router can log, but only SNMP, so i thought maybe i could send it to ubuntu
[00:41] <dr_willis> Daghdha:  i seem to recall doing that years ago with some router i had..   but i belive it was  only a feature of some routers
[00:41] <sLiQueh> Ozzy_boshi, ask
[00:42] <Daghdha> Two dr.. wow. dr_willis it can SNMP log, so i t is possible to give it to Ubuntu?
[00:42] <dr_willis> snmp - SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) applications
[00:42] <dr_willis> snmpd - SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) agents
[00:42] <dr_willis> I belive so.. but its been years since i looked into it
[00:42] <Daghdha> But is it not buitl in?
[00:43] <Daghdha> Oh ok i google about a bit
[00:43] <dr_willis> The router had to send the info to the pc. or somehow the snmp service/tools asked the router for the info
[00:43] <Ozzy_boshi> i have just installed a 64bit ubuntu on my laptop, a santech m38 machine , the problem is that mozilla firefox is very slow and this could be related (i think) to the boot process that takes up to 5 minutes
[00:43] <Daghdha> i think snmp is push
[00:43] <Ozzy_boshi> there is something strange
[00:44] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/148375/rsyslog-filter-for-logging-router-events-syslog-server
[00:45] <Daghdha> i was going for http://www.ehow.com/how_8676050_setup-snmp-trap-ubuntu.html
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> Ozzy_boshi, install htop and see what is running, you can shut stuff down with this app.
[00:46] <dr_willis> Daghdha:  that url seems to be doing exactly what you want. :) puts the router logs in a local log file.
[00:47] <Daghdha> dr_willis: You rlink?
[00:47] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/148375/rsyslog-filter-for-logging-router-events-syslog-server
[00:47] <dr_willis> reading the logs, sticking them in /var/log/router.log   ;) nifty
[00:47] <veryhappy> hey guys is it possible to align the picture over hdmi in ubuntu on a tv?
[00:48] <Ozzy_boshi> my load is not so much
[00:48] <brent___> Hey all, I'm brand new to Ubuntu (and linux in general). Can anyone give me a hand with wireless?
[00:48] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  you want to repharse that.. it dident make much sence
[00:48] <Daghdha> Ok so he basically sets up a remote file for any remote devices sending logging
[00:48] <Ozzy_boshi> 3 ram giga free
[00:48] <Ozzy_boshi> cpu 8%
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> brent___, Possibly ask the questions. ;)
[00:49] <brent___> I've got an inspiron 1150, and it's saying that I'm missing the firmware for my wireless card. The ethernet cord is working fine (on it now). Tried looking for additional drivers and didn't have any luck with that.
[00:49] <brent___> :D
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> brent___, you know the card?
[00:49] <brent___> Good question. It's the default one loaded. I could probably google it
[00:50] <qcjn> thanks dr_willis , i m checking it out. But i just noticed that it wen't in syslog
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> brent___, try these two commands separately it probably is a broad com  lspci | grep -i wireless   lspci | grep Broadcom
[00:51] <louiemat> does Ubuntu tweak work in ubuntu 12.04. if so where can you get it?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> louiemat, there is a PPA if you want updates.
[00:51] <brent___> I'm sorry, I'm really really new. Where do I put that in? :(
[00:51] <louiemat> what is it
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> brent___, copy and paste to a terminal
[00:52] <pidginsux> it is possible to have ubuntu installed with the default gnome shell
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> then paste the card name here
[00:52] <Daghdha> dr_willis: Do i need to reboot for that change?
[00:52] <veryhappy> dr_willis: i want to align the picture on the screen of my tv. i'm not able to find anything for that to use my barebone over hdmi
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> pidginsux, the gnome 3 shell?
[00:52] <dr_willis> Daghdha:  no idea.
[00:52] <louiemat> could I just run it in the terminal?
[00:52] <pidginsux> wilee-nilee, yes
[00:53] <pidginsux> wilee-nilee, not unitY
[00:53] <dr_willis> veryhappy:   the nvidia-settings tool here has settings to adjust the 'display' position.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> pidginsux, I had a gnome 3 only release there is at least one out there.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> not canonical though
[00:53] <dr_willis> veryhappy:   if using hdmi, the  display should be set properly. except perhaps for any overscan settings
[00:53] <veryhappy> dr_willis: which package do i have to install for that?
[00:53] <natsirt> I keep getting this error message when trying to print
[00:53] <natsirt> http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/6/3296637/amazon-new-kindle-fire-tablet-7inch-launch-event-price
[00:53] <cxo> Is there a DLNA server package with really good Ubuntu desktop integration?
[00:54] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  do you have a nvidia card?
[00:54] <natsirt> http://i.imgur.com/PoS3l.png
[00:54] <natsirt> idk why?
[00:54] <veryhappy> yes. i have an nvidia card in the barebone
[00:54] <veryhappy> -n
[00:54] <dr_willis> cxo:  most servers serve and dont need to be integrated into the desktop. Theres many with nice web config interfaces.
[00:54] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  install the nvidia drivers yet?
[00:55] <Daghdha> dr_willis: It can even do : Enable Syslogd to capture system messages. By default they will be collected in the local file /var/log/messages. To send them to another system, enter the IP address of a remote syslog server.
[00:55] <Daghdha> I try that
[00:55] <dr_willis> cxo:  plex is a newer Dlna/upnp server ive been toying with lately. theres several in the repos also. like MediaTomb.
[00:55] <veryhappy> still didn't install ubuntu on the barebone again cause i run debian on it at this time cause i want to be able to control it over network so i can access the screen over network or with a remote control
[00:55] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  install a vnc server and you have a 'remote' desktop.
[00:56] <veryhappy> ok
[00:56] <veryhappy> and then install nvidia package?
[00:56] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  if you can actually 'see' the other pcs monitor. You can use synergy to controll it from the local keyboard/mouse
[00:56] <cxo> Upnp-inspector needs to be absorbed into nautilus
[00:56] <tcstar> So, when I visit my info.php i made to test my ini...  it tells me it's protected with Suhosin -- but there is no suhosin configuration files anywhere on my server...
[00:56] <veryhappy> good
[00:56] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  if your sustem has a nvidia card..  you most likely want the nvidia drivers.
[00:56] <veryhappy> dr_willis: it has.
[00:56] <cxo> I want to just right click on a file and say Play on sweet-new-tv
[00:56] <veryhappy> how far is ubuntu tv btw?
[00:57] <dr_willis> cxo:  actually i do just that... with my android phone.. ;)
[00:57] <lauratika> p
[00:58] <cxo> I think rygel is a good candidate for gnome integration. Its full of gnome deps already
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> pidginsux, I have a debian wheezy install with just gnome 3 as well seems stable, just another option.
[00:58] <brent___> Ok...so I'm slow :( I opened the terminal and put that in, but it's not doing anything. Where does the command start? Thanks for being patient!
[00:58] <lauratika> can some one read me?
[00:59] <lauratika> kind people, i have issues running stream torrents in ubuntu... does some one make it work at some point?
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> brent___, you need to use nicks and exact info, what is that in?
[01:00] <veryhappy> should i use 64 bit or 32 for my tv distro?
[01:00] <pidginsux> wilee-nilee no, will not install debian, those name sounds a bit strange, wheezy
[01:00] <pidginsux> :D
[01:00] <pidginsux> it's like for geeks only
[01:01] <veryhappy> how far is ubuntu tv?
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> brent___, if you mean these commands notice that each starts with lspci there are two separate commands to be run one may identify your wireless card this one or    lspci | grep -i wireless  or this command    lspci | grep Broadcom
[01:02] <pidginsux> Or Linux Mint with his daughers, Clara, Larisa etc :D ahahah
[01:02] <pidginsux> install different girls on your desktop
[01:02] <lauratika> some one ?
[01:02] <lauratika> on stream torrents
[01:03] <dr_willis> not even sure what a 'stream torrent' is
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, you have top have some patience, waiting 2 mins is not patience, if someone knows they will probably answer
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> to*
[01:04] <mysteriousdarren> lauratika: what do you need? Be polite and wait and if someone knows they will answer. Be patient and clear and ask questions and wait for the answer.
[01:05] <brent___> Whenever I put those in, it repeats the same command with wireless in red
[01:05] <veryhappy> ok thank you guys
[01:05] <lauratika> thanx people for scolding my impatience
[01:06] <brent___> Just to make sure I'm inputting correctly, I'm doing name@laptopname: lspc...
[01:06] <brent___> is that right?
[01:08] <mysteriousdarren> lauratika: what specifically are you having problems with? app?
[01:09] <blackshirt> it was true that ubuntu not really need antivirus?
[01:09] <lauratika> stream torrents
[01:09] <dekela> Hi, Please Help! I installed fglrx and removed it after reading bad things about the drivers. Now I am stuck at console since the screen shuts off after automatic Login
[01:09] <mysteriousdarren> blackshirt: do you use Windows Applications?
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> brent___,  I see on the web that you probably have a broadcom card I will trigger the bot to give you info, confirm that you have this card before doing anything the wiki will show you how.
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | brent___
[01:09] <dekela> I searched the forums and google and didnt find an answer
[01:09] <pidginsux> my personal experience iwth ubuntu: it looks cool for new user that come to linux world. but indeed , default Gnome 3 is more good like
[01:10] <Daghdha> scary how this unix stuff sticks in your mind
[01:10] <Daghdha> just type tail -f
[01:10] <mysteriousdarren> lauratika: did you install one?
[01:10] <Daghdha> Probably have not used it in 10 years
[01:10] <ticamai> Can anyone help me with my microphone? I've got a Toshiba Satellite L355-S7905 with microphone issues. The microphone is turned on and up, but when I record all I hear is static. I have tried adding "options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad" and variations of it in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, as well as a full reinstall of ALSA. I'm currently running
[01:10] <ticamai> Ubuntu 12.04LTS Studio
[01:10] <dekela> You guys are my only hope from reinstalling ubuntu
[01:10] <brent___> Thanks Wilee! I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the help
[01:10] <lauratika> yes in wine but not working, wonder if there is a native linux application
[01:10] <mysteriousdarren> dekela: what is the problem?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> brent___, no problem hope you getter workin. ;)
[01:11] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: I installed fglrx and then removed it
[01:11] <brent___> I'll let you know!
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> cool
[01:11] <mysteriousdarren> lauratika: well your best bet is to use a native one. What did you use before?
[01:11] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: then when I tried to reboot it came up with a blank screen right after lightdm started
[01:11] <mysteriousdarren> dekela: did you change anything else?
[01:11] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: no
[01:12] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: I think it is related to my previous screen setup
[01:12] <lauratika> it's call streamtorrents
[01:12] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: I used the opensource driver and setup my 3 monitors as 2 disabled and one enabled
[01:12] <lauratika> for windows but i dont know if there is a native one or a way to make it work properly in ubuntu
[01:12] <mysteriousdarren> dekela: did you try to start with a recovery?
[01:12] <randomDude> looking for an image program that will allow me to select a number of images and resize them to certain dimension
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> ticamai, have you messed around in alsamixer
[01:13] <dekela> mysteriousdarren:  the question is how do I reset my display settings to be as it was when I installed Ubuntu
[01:13] <mysteriousdarren> lauratika: are you looking for something like vuze, transmission? or deluge? check those out
[01:13] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: and no I didnt tried recovery
[01:13] <bazhang> randomDude, imagemagick
[01:13] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: I can get to the prompt using CTRL-ALT F1
[01:13] <randomDude> bazhang: gui please.
[01:13] <pidginsux> lauratika : better solution is: don't use anothyng that work funny on some OS, and try to use it untested on some other OS
[01:13] <mysteriousdarren> dekela: did you try that?
[01:13] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: this is how I am connected to irc now
[01:13] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: going into recovery? No
[01:14] <randomDude> looking for a GUI image program that will allow me to select a number of images and resize them to certain dimension.
[01:14] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: will that get me screen?
[01:14] <pidginsux> lauratika it is already invented on windows so don't need to use it on lin
[01:15] <pidginsux> or maybe there are alternative builds for that app on linux ^
[01:15] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: I will try recovery boot and let you know what was the results
[01:15] <lauratika> mysteriousdarren: what this does is able to show direct stream on torrent protocol... deluge wont do that
[01:15] <dekela> mysteriousdarren: be right back
[01:15] <lauratika> pidginsux: i know in some cases that why wine was created
[01:16] <ticamai> wilee-nilee: Yes, I have, Anything I do just changes how loud the static is.
[01:16] <brent___> Wilee, here's what came back:
[01:16] <brent___> 02:01.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T [14e4:4401] (rev 01)
[01:16] <brent___> 02:02.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)
[01:16] <pidginsux> lauratika:  try to use rtorrent
[01:17] <Daghdha> anyone know rsyslogd? In 12.04 the /etc/defailt/rsyslogd says # -r enables logging from remote machines (deprecated, only used in compat mode < 3)
[01:17] <pidginsux> did you tried?
[01:17] <Daghdha> Can it still do remote and is it now always on?
[01:17] <mysteriousdarren> lauratika: what about vuze?
[01:17] <pidginsux> all other GUI apps like deluge and etc are just miserable
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> ticamai, I have a aceraspire I could not get the microphone working while looking I saw a alot od people with static or noise problems that could not be changed, hard to say it seems hit and misss in this area.
[01:17] <lauratika> pidginsux: did you understand what we ae talking about? is about torrent protocol on direct stream
[01:17] <blackshirt> dagdha, okey, what the problems?
[01:17] <lauratika> vuze either
[01:18] <mysteriousdarren> utorrent?
[01:18] <ticamai> wilee-nilee: Hmm, that's no good. An app i'm developing requires a working built-in mic, and i was hoping I wouldn't have to resort to installing windows, but if i can't find a solution soon, looks like that's how i'll have to go.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> brent___, I can only point you to the wiki I have no real experience with broadcom.  It does give you info though and the channel has people who know if the wiki does not work or is confusing.
[01:19] <ticamai> wilee-nilee: You think pulseaudio could be causing any issues?
[01:19] <brent___> Perfect. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[01:19] <pidginsux> lauratika: maybe this ? http://p2ptube.sourceforge.net/#btcat
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> ticamai, I was only looking at web sites associated with my computer the acer which seems itself to be a big hassle other computers may be different. The acer works fine in XP, I have no real experience in this other than web searches.
[01:20] <randomDude> bazhang: so how come you didn't recommend shotwell?
[01:21] <dom_> hello everyone
[01:21] <ticamai> wilee-nilee: Alright then. Thanks anyways.
[01:22] <blackshirt> hello dom
[01:22] <Bing> 现在有可用的QQ么？
[01:22] <dom_> now i am busy doing a  match,and can ask for help
[01:22] <Bing> pidgin怎么又不能用了....
[01:22] <lauratika> this is to work with live stream of sports
[01:22] <dom_> and i need your help
[01:22] <dom_> who can give me a hand
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> Bing, this is a english channel
[01:23] <Bing> sorry
[01:23] <blackshirt> just ask dom
[01:23] <mysteriousdarren> dom_: what do you need?
[01:23] <dom_> ok, please wait a minute
[01:24] <IlikeMoose> dr_willis, are you still around? i just reinstalled 12.04 from scratch and my screen is now at 640x480 i can barely see the screen
[01:24] <dr_willis> IlikeMoose:  and did you install the nvidia drivers yet?
[01:24] <lauratika> more like this www.sopcast.com/
[01:25] <IlikeMoose> dr_willis, i'm running the 173 drivers
[01:25] <IlikeMoose> dr_willis, should i upgrade them?
[01:25] <dom_> e,who can give me a website about the  evaluation of wine
[01:25] <dr_willis> IlikeMoose:  you ran the nvidia-settings tool  yet? and had it save the xorg.conf? then rebooted?
[01:25] <oekamon> ae
[01:26] <IlikeMoose> dr_willis, i just reinstalled the OS from scratch
[01:26] <dr_willis> IlikeMoose: .... so... you have or have NOT installed the nvidia drivers, rebooted, ran nvidia-settings, tweaked the displays, then restarted the X server?
[01:26] <Jahgro> Can anybody explain to me why su is disabled in Ubuntu bassed Linux?
[01:26] <Jahgro> based*
[01:26] <IlikeMoose> it wont let me change anything in nvidia-settings
[01:26] <dom_> i am joining the Mathematical Contest in modeling
[01:26] <dr_willis> Jahgro:  its not. but directly ogging in as root is disabled.
[01:27] <dr_willis> IlikeMoose:  run it as the root user, 'gksudo nvidia-settings' perhaps?
[01:27] <dr_willis> !sudo | Jahgro
[01:27] <mysteriousdarren> dom_:evaluation? you mean the wine hq?
[01:27] <dom_> and i need some Material science
[01:27] <dom_> yes
[01:28] <dom_> thanks a lot
[01:28] <dom_> evaluate
[01:28] <mysteriousdarren> dom_: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[01:28] <Jahgro> dr_willis: Yeah, but why is su disabled.  I know you can do sudo, but why disable switching user to root
[01:28] <dom_> ok,thank you very much!have a good day!
[01:29] <Jahgro> Is it to try and save users from themselves
[01:29] <mysteriousdarren> dom_: your welcome
[01:29] <dr_willis> Jahgro:  'su' is not disabled.. you can su to another user.. dirct loggint in as root is turned off.
[01:29] <Jahgro> dr_willis: yeah, that's what I mean.  su to root
[01:30] <dr_willis> theres no need to su to root..  use sudo as needed
[01:30] <Jahgro> dr_willis: Is there a way to activate it?
[01:31] <zykotick9> !noroot | Jahgro
[01:31] <IlikeMoose_> dr_willis, nowhere in nvidia-settings is it allowing me to even change the resolution but i'm going to try a driver upgrade
[01:32] <sgo11> hi, for gnome-shell, hi, before upgrading to 12.04,  shortcuts that I defined work fine. after upgrading, they do not work. I checked the Shortcuts setup under All Settings --> Keyboard, it appears fine. (eg: switch to workspace 1,2,3,4. switch windows of an application shortcuts), any ideas? thanks.
[01:32] <bp0> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, and my USB3 disk will only work plugged into a USB2 port. It works as USB3 in Windows, but not in Ubuntu.
[01:34] <zx2c4> hey any devs i can talk to about getting a package included?
[01:35] <quidnunc> zx2c4: Just file a bug
[01:35] <fragmachine> Hello. when I apt-get install it says something like '100 mb will be used', but then when I apt-get remove the same application it says only 145k disk space will be freed. Why is that?
[01:35] <zx2c4> quidnunc, okay
[01:35] <fragmachine> apt-get install an application I mean
[01:35] <quidnunc> zx2c4: and maybe goto #ubuntu-motu to get someone to take stewardship of it
[01:36] <zx2c4> quidnunc, aaa perfect -- thats just the sorta thing i was looking for. okay, opening a bug now, then motu next
[01:41] <luweitest> hello
[01:41] <Delta5130> oi
[01:41] <IlikeMoose> dr_willis, i switched to the version 295 driver and now i'm in 1024x768 but i know this monitor does 1280x1024 i had ubuntu installed and working fine but it crapped out on me after in installed my new hard drive and reinstalled ubuntu. why would it work fine in one install but not fine on another?
[01:41] <Delta5130> sou novo aqui
[01:41] <Daghdha> iptables -I INPUT -p udp -i eth0 -s 192.168.0.1 -d 192.168.0.199 -dport 514 -j ACCEPT is giving me iptables v1.4.12: multiple -d flags not allowed
[01:42] <IlikeMoose> dr_willis, under displays it has my monitor listed as laptop for some reason
[01:42] <Daghdha> I used from a tutorial, is it the -dport?
[01:42] <bazhang> !br | Delta5130
[01:42] <bazhang> Daghdha, you might try #netfilter
[01:42] <Delta5130> usar como não sei muito sobre o ubuntu
[01:43] <luweitest> A question about Linux's help system: Apart from man and info command,  how can I find a proper command according to the task should be done?
[01:43] <quidnunc> luweitest: apropos
[01:43] <Daghdha> bazhang done that
[01:43] <quidnunc> luweitest: or search google
[01:44] <luweitest> quidnunc: Thank you, apropos seems what I am looking for
[01:45] <quidnunc> luweitest: make sure to look at the "-a" option
[01:46] <quidnunc> luweitest: Also "man -K"
[01:48] <Delta5130> Eaê bazhang conseguir!! valeu
[01:50] <erictr1ck> im trying to remove a directory by using: rm -r -f but am getting "File limit exceeded" what gives?
[01:50] <jrib> erictr1ck: what are you actually running?
[01:51] <quidnunc> erictr1ck: It's your glob pattern being expanded to the shell.
[01:51] <erictr1ck> im trying to remove Aptana Studio 3: rm -r -f /opt/Aptana_Studio_3
[01:51] <quidnunc> erictr1ck: or maybe not. Is that the exact command?
[01:52] <jrib> erictr1ck: you should just copy everything in your terminal (command and full output) and drop it in a pastebin
[01:52] <erictr1ck> quidnunc, yes, thats exactly what im trying to run
[01:53] <luweitest> quidnunc: Is apropos just an alias of "man -k"
[01:53] <quidnunc> erictr1ck: yes but not "man -K"
[01:53] <quidnunc> (note capitalization)
[01:53] <erictr1ck> quidnunc, "glob pattern being expanded to the shell" tbh, thats a litle over my head
[01:54] <luweitest> quidnunc: but alias command does not show it?
[01:54] <quidnunc> luweitest: It's not an alias AFAIK
[01:54] <Daghdha> well as with most things it seems simple, but a forest of misinformation & amittions is not helping :/
[01:54] <quidnunc> luweitest: I don't how it is implemented
[01:55] <Daghdha> (with regard to router -> rsyslogd logging)
[01:55] <quidnunc> erictr1ck: If you did "rm *" the shell would expand that to "rm file1 file2 file3 ..." and there is a limit to the number of args you can pass in the shell. But that may not be your problem
[01:55] <quidnunc> erictr1ck: Doing as jrib asked would be helpful
[01:56] <quidnunc> erictr1ck: You can probably use find and -exec as a workaround
[01:56] <luweitest> quidnunc: I find it -- it's a link to whatis
[01:59] <Daghdha> i think i have it logging to the syslog fikle now
[01:59] <p0rk> I'm getting this message when trying to sign into my account after doing software updates:
[01:59] <Daghdha> i think i have it logging to the syslog file now. :P
[01:59] <p0rk> unable to start session gnome
[01:59] <p0rk> this is from my .xsession-errors:
[01:59] <p0rk>  unable to launch "startxfce4" X session --- "startxfce4" not found; falling
[01:59] <p0rk> back to default session.
[02:00] <erictr1ck> quidnunc, ok, ever stranger... I was able to go into the directory and do: rm -r -f * with no issues. but now when i try to remove the empty directory i get the same error
[02:00] <pepperjack> erictr1ck: if you do a find /directory are there any files?
[02:02]  * blz is pepperjack's best ho!
[02:02] <erictr1ck> pepperjack, when i run: find Aptana_Studio_3, nothing returns
[02:03] <zykotick9> erictr1ck: what command are you running?  "sudo rmdir /opt/Aptana_Studio_3"
[02:03] <_Marcus> I was following the page here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization and when I tried to build the iso, I got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190033/ Anyone know why?
[02:03] <Daghdha> Can anyone tell me if the following line is a normal occurance in syslogd? Or that it is infact my router talking to rsyslogd?
[02:03] <Daghdha> Sep  7 03:59:35 192.168.0.1 kernel: ACCEPT IN=br0 OUT=vlan2 SRC=192.168.0.198 DST=112.211.3.13 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=127 ID=14636 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=63534 DPT=80 SEQ=3593242711 ACK=0 WINDOW=8192 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 OPT (020405B401010402)
[02:03] <Daghdha> Sinceit starts with 192.168.0.1 i am guessing it's my router's entries
[02:04] <Daghdha> assumming that is the source
[02:04] <Elesa> Hi, can I  backup two home folders with Deja Dup on Natty and restore them on Precise Pangolin without losing file permissions and stuff?
[02:04] <KRomeleoN> beta 1 yayayayayayayay
[02:05] <KRomeleoN> i just built a new pc and 12.10 is flying on it
[02:05] <erictr1ck> zykotick9, actually i was using rm -r -f /opt/Aptana_Studio_3 . but rmdir worked :) thanks. still unsure what the issue there was though.
[02:05] <zykotick9> !ubuntu+1 | KRomeleoN pre-release is OT in #ubuntu
[02:06] <zykotick9> erictr1ck: fyi you'd usually group switches like "rm -rf /foo"
[02:06] <acer> hi all !
[02:07] <misterx_245> Что случилось с настройками сочетания клавишей их что при каждом обновлении настраивать?
[02:07] <zykotick9> !ru | misterx_245
[02:07] <acer> I have some troubles to receive emails from a ubuntu machine and I do not know how to debug it......
[02:07] <acer> all mail go to dead.letter
[02:07] <Elesa> Someone read my question?
[02:08] <KRomeleoN> Elesa, please repeat question
[02:08] <erictr1ck> zykotick9, thanks for tip and thanks again for solving my issue
[02:09] <Elesa> Hi, can I  backup two home folders with Deja Dup on Natty and restore them on Precise Pangolin without losing file permissions and stuff?
[02:09] <zykotick9> erictr1ck: glad to help
[02:09] <Elesa> ^
[02:09] <KRomeleoN> Elesa, it should work
[02:09] <KRomeleoN> should
[02:10] <lkthomas> hey guys, /etc/ntp.conf is empty on my ubuntu server, how could I recover from default config ?
[02:12] <pepperjack> Elesa: I'm not familiar with deja dup  but you could do tar cfvp /backup.tar /home/username /home/username2   or something if comfortable with console
[02:12] <Elesa> =O
[02:12] <zykotick9> Elesa: using config files from an old release on a new one - might not work as expected...  good luck.
[02:14] <Elesa> pepperjack, will it keep file permissions?
[02:14] <zykotick9> lkthomas: purging ntp and reinstalling "should" work (it might not though)
[02:14] <pepperjack> the 'p' tells it to preserve permissions
[02:16] <pepperjack> Elesa: that may only be technically be default for creating a tar and only necessary when extracting it like tar xvpf backup.tar   or whatever ... not sure but wont hurt during the create
[02:20] <lkthomas> ok, thanks
[02:21] <nyRednek> hmmm... do-release-upgrade is failing
[02:21] <cannabis> My computer locks up during shutdowns and restarts. Does anyone have any advice on fixing this?
[02:22] <nyRednek> anyone know why that would happen?
[02:22] <cannabis> nyRednek, what release are you running?
[02:22] <nyRednek> lucid
[02:23] <nyRednek> brb
[02:23] <Elesa> ok, I'm doing that
[02:23] <dontknow> on intel hd 4000 gpu causes video tearing, how can i fix this issue?
[02:24] <cannabis> Is it set to upgrade to LTS in Software Sources? nyRednek
[02:24] <Elesa> zykotick9, any way to prevent problems?
[02:24] <cannabis> My computer locks up during shutdowns and restarts. Does anyone have any advice on fixing this?
[02:24] <dontknow> not in the middle of video, on the top of the screeen
[02:24] <dontknow> in particular location
[02:24] <zykotick9> cannabis: don't shutdown or reboot
[02:25] <cannabis> zykotick9, thanks, best fix ever
[02:25] <econdudeawesome> anyone know where I can get some help on coding in C?
[02:25] <econdudeawesome> nevermind, #C exists
[02:26] <cannabis> My computer locks up during shutdowns and restarts. Does anyone have any advice on fixing this?
[02:26] <gdeeble> Anyone good with connecting wireless via CLI?
[02:26] <dontknow> cannabis, what graphics card do you have?
[02:26] <new2ubuntu> hi all
[02:27] <dontknow> ati?
[02:27] <zykotick9> gdeeble: i use the deprecated wicd for that (not recommended!)...  best of luck.
[02:27] <new2ubuntu> I need to install libreoffice on a computer without internet, I was going to get the .deb file and put on a flash drive. Where do I get those files? it's for Lubuntu.
[02:28] <cannabis> dontknow, VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Caicos [Radeon HD 6450]
[02:28] <nyRednek> anyways, i was saying, do-release-upgrade failing on lucid
[02:29] <cannabis> Is it set to upgrade to LTS in Software Sources? nyRednek
[02:29] <gdeeble> @Zytotick9 This really doesn't fit under ubuntu I guess. It's general linux. I'm trying to diagnose a wireless issue with a device that runs linux and has the iwconfig/iwlist and wpa_cli, which I can't get it to connect via gui as it hangs and in cli never finds a wireless network at all but does find the wireless adapter.
[02:29] <zykotick9> !aptoncd | new2ubuntu you could try this maybe?
[02:29] <zykotick9> !tab > gdeeble
[02:30] <zykotick9> gdeeble: sorry i can't really help with that - best of luck
[02:31] <nyRednek> cannabis: yes
[02:31] <nyRednek> cannabis: was trying to upgrade to precise
[02:31] <cannabis> nyRednek, did you use sudo?
[02:31] <gdeeble> Sorry. It's ok. I figured I'd ask here first and see. I'm going to start hunting to see if I can find a better fitted channel for the problem. Thanks for the heads up on tabbing, as I'm still new to IRC
[02:32] <cannabis> if yes, then what was the output?
[02:32] <zykotick9> gdeeble: side note - don't use @ on IRC... it isn't identica/twitter ;)
[02:32] <nyRednek> something about a file not being in gz format, then a wall of text about the sources it hit
[02:33] <cannabis> @zykotick9, thanks, best fix ever
[02:33] <Daghdha> my rsyslogd is getting these entries> Sep  7 04:31:48 192.168.0.1 kernel: ACCPE...etc  how can i filter on that. I want it filtered to a seperate file. I tried several suggestions from internet fora but the messages just keep l anding in my syslog
[02:33] <Daghdha> And not in the new filename.
[02:33] <cannabis> tee hee
[02:33] <Daghdha> Currently my non working filter rule is: if $fromhost-ip startswith '192.168.0' then /var/log/tplink.log
[02:34] <Daghdha> It is the 1st line in 50-default.conf
[02:34] <Necro> Is there any way at all to transfer music to an iPod/iPhone in Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:35] <zykotick9> !ipod | Necro
[02:35] <nyRednek> Necro: yeah
[02:35] <Necro> Rhythembox, Clementime, gtkpod have all failed
[02:41] <Daghdha> ok that works.. now i just need to make it stop putting it in syslog too
[02:42] <Daghdha> &~
[02:42] <Nordom> can someone explain to me linux vs ubuntu? linux == ubuntu?
[02:43] <zykotick9> Nordom: linux is a kernel, ubuntu is a distro.  GNU = GNUs not Ubuntu ;)
[02:44] <Daghdha> yes a distro.
[02:44] <Daghdha> Very clear to someone that doesn't know what difference is between ubuntu and linux i am sure
[02:44] <Nordom> unix == linux?
[02:44] <zykotick9> Nordom: linux is a Unix-Like OS... but it's not Unix.
[02:45] <Nordom> I see
[02:45] <Nordom> if I wanted to run a linux based OS what would a good one be? besides ubuntu of course
[02:46] <zykotick9> Nordom: that would be a question for #linux perhaps
[02:46] <xangua> and yet you ask in the ubuntu channel :P
[02:46] <Daghdha> Is mac a  linux based OS?
[02:46] <andrewaclt> Nordom, gentoo
[02:46] <andrewaclt> Daghdha, trolling, but no
[02:46] <Nordom> u cannot speak in the linux channel if ur a ##
[02:46] <Daghdha> no serious, it is a unix type isn't it.
[02:46] <arooni-mobile> Point your "naked domain" (example.com not www.example.com!) ....  naked domain means... url.com ? for the hostname field in my A record setup?
[02:46] <souliaq> Games question: I'm used "xmame.SDL" in the "past Ubuntus", now Ubuntu 12.04 comes with "mame". This mame don't have 2xSAI, Super2xSaI and similars. Then why Ubuntu dismissed "xmame.SDL"?
[02:47] <SecretFire> is there an irc channel for music creation in ubuntu?
[02:47] <drupin> https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/ this dont work for me any other tool
[02:47] <Nickua> naked domain
[02:47] <drupin> SecretAgent: #linuxmusicians but its dead most times
[02:47] <Mysterytrain> if i put /home on a different disk rather than a different partition, is that going to lag the system noticeably? Both disks are sata
[02:48] <Nordom> I am on the ubuntu website taking "the tour" but it looks better suited for my phone then using a desktop os replacement
[02:48] <zykotick9> Nordom: +1
[02:48] <souliaq> I don't think so <Mysterytrain>, I have that style in this right moment.
[02:48] <Daghdha> andrewaclt "OS X is based upon the Mach kernel. Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in NeXTSTEP, the core of Mac OS X. "
[02:49] <andrewaclt> Daghdha, Yes, it's posix compliant
[02:49] <Nordom> are there any other linux based os that are great for desktop os replacement?
[02:49] <andrewaclt> Sure, but if its your first one I think Ubuntu is the best Nordom
[02:50] <xangua> Nordom: /join ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:50] <Nordom> thank you for ur input
[02:51] <L3top> Nordom: You can use any number of desktop managers. You are not tied to unity just because you are using ubuntu. You can use KDE, xfce etc...
[02:51] <L3top> !nounity | Nordom
[02:52] <Mysterytrain> I'm stuck on ubutntu lucid. ubiquity crashes in 11.10.
[02:52] <Daghdha> I read on the web i should ignore this, is that true? Sep  7 04:47:25 NAS named[1512]: client 127.0.0.1#40357: RFC 1918 response from Internet for 1.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa
[02:52] <Mysterytrain> can't get passed step 4
[02:52] <Daghdha> (I should just not look in damn logfiles anymore :)
[02:52] <L3top> That is a very odd address Mysterytrain.
[02:53] <L3top> What do you mean ubiquity crashes?
[02:53] <Nordom> the stuff ubottu said has my 100% lost
[02:53] <Nordom> me*
[02:53] <L3top> sorry odd address Daghdha
[02:53] <Mysterytrain> L3top: I mean, once I get to "partitioning hard drives" and tell it to use my mountpoints, it just sits there and sits there and sits there and doesn't do anything.
[02:53] <Daghdha> no is normal
[02:53] <L3top> Nordom: Ubuntu is the underlying operating system... the desktop you see, is completely under your control.
[02:54] <Daghdha> it's some dns thing where they do that i think
[02:54]  * MirtheN- slaps Daghdha around a bit with a large trout
[02:54] <Daghdha> it's basically 192.168.0.1
[02:54] <L3top> 1.0.168.192 is not a valid address.
[02:54] <Daghdha> 1.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa
[02:54] <Daghdha> is the address
[02:55] <mike_sun> hi, I update my ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and there is no dash preview
[02:55] <nyRednek> cannabis: i fixed it
[02:55] <Nordom> L3top: I don't really understand much about other non-window OSes... how is it completely in my control?
[02:55] <Daghdha> it's for reverse DNS
[02:55] <mike_sun> when I click if the right button, the file is open, not show any preview
[02:55] <xangua> !12.10 | mike_sun
[02:55] <nyRednek> cannabis: i had to clean out my /var/lib/apt(or something like that)
[02:55] <mike_sun> thanks
[02:56] <L3top> Nordom: you can, for instance, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:56] <L3top> this will give you the KDE desktop.
[02:57] <Daghdha> No offense, but that means nothing to people  that are unfamiliar with linux.
[02:58] <nyRednek> Daghdha: in other words, with one command, you can have a completely different graphical environment installed and set as default...it's the equivalent to running windows update and having macos's interface after, if you so chose
[02:58] <Nordom> looking at kubuntu's tour now... how are the linux, unix, and mach kernals different? Aka whats great about them in layman terms
[02:58] <Daghdha> i know what it means, But you think someone that asks <Nordom> can someone explain to me linux vs ubuntu?
[02:58] <Necro> Necro | Is there any way at all to transfer music to an iPod/iPhone in Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:59] <Nordom> <--- programmer I undertand more than you know ;D
[02:59] <nyRednek> Nordom: well, mach is a type of unix kernel, particularly the one used by MacOS and IBM for their workstation unix
[02:59] <Necro> With iOS5? Seems like there's nothing for iOS5...
[02:59] <nyRednek> Nordom: there is no specific kernel that is "unix"
[02:59] <Daghdha> Nordom: As a linux noob, and also programmer. I know secretely we are idiots :), i think ubuntu is probably your best bet as there's alively community and it's easy to use
[03:00] <Daghdha> But, being linux based, it can drive you to the brink of insanity sometimes
[03:00] <L3top> Nordom: they will have the same kernel version... regardless of the desktop.
[03:00] <ev_> i have vlc remote runnimg on my android phone. the problem is when i connect i can browse my entire filesystem, obviously bad. i cannont find any vlc files dictating what folders to share. any help, thx
[03:00] <nyRednek> Nordom: and the kernel really has little effect on the user experience...all a kernel does is interface with the devices, then give your user apps something to interface with
[03:00] <L3top> Nordom: the underlying OS by version, are the same... it is jut what you see, and how you interact with it.
[03:01] <Nordom> I see
[03:01] <Nickua> right
[03:01] <nyRednek> Nordom: for first dives into linux, ubuntu is probably your best bet, gives you a pretty picture, and a way to look deeper if you want
[03:02] <nyRednek> Nordom: not to mention--ubuntu is geared towards being easy to use, and has a horde of people to help you who are more patient than i could ever hope to be
[03:02] <Nordom> so whats the primary difference between ubuntu kubuntu and all the other subsets of "_"buntu?
[03:02] <nyRednek> Nordom: the way the desktop looks
[03:02] <nyRednek> Nordom: that's pretty much the difference in a nutshell
[03:02] <Nordom> I see
[03:03] <Nordom> do any of you guys have a prefrence to which?
[03:03] <shade34321> whenever I run apt-get update I get this error,
[03:03] <shade34321> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190082/ , about duplicate sources.list and it tells me to run apt-get udpate to fix it...suggestions?
[03:03] <nyRednek> Nordom: some *buntu's are specialized by application, like edubuntu
[03:04] <zykotick9> shade34321: "apt-get update" won't fix duplicates...
[03:04] <nyRednek> Nordom: well, i moved from slackware, and like the xfce desktop...with that in mind, i'm going to prefer xubuntu
[03:04] <shade34321> zykotick9, I kind of figured that but it keeps telling me to fix it and I can't find the duplicate
[03:04] <ev_> nyRednek: is ubuntu that restricted once a persons skills advance? i have been on ubuntu for 5yrs (after20 on pc). i would never be able to use any *nix without the net, google, here...
[03:04] <zykotick9> shade34321: check both sources.list and the sources.list.d directory
[03:05] <nyRednek> ev_: not really
[03:05] <L3top> Nordom: Try them and see. All you have to do is install the desktop environments... see which feels best to you. Polling will not get you anywhere
[03:05] <shade34321> zykotick9, ok
[03:05] <Nordom> well I am a python programmer that works with openGL and game engines such as panda3d, any of you have a suggest for the more programmer oriented?
[03:05] <nyRednek> shade34321: /var/lib/apt clean it out, make sure the partial dir still exists, then run apt-get update
[03:05] <Daghdha> ok thanks for the invaluable help tonight guys.and Nordom. Have fun with trying ubuntu.
[03:05] <ev_> nyRednek: cool, good to know
[03:06] <nyRednek> ev_: as a long time slacker, i was used to compiling my own packages, and, tbh, you can do that under debian-style systems if you want
[03:06] <nyRednek> Nordom: well, that would be, "all of them"
[03:06] <nyRednek> Nordom: just install the meta-package build-essential once you're up and running
[03:07] <Nordom> L3top: you made me smile, you say try them and see, which apprently you can try alot of linux based OS from loading off a cd or a usb but didnt even know you could do that until about 30 - 40 min ago XD
[03:07] <shade34321> nyRednek, what do you mean?
[03:07] <nyRednek> shade34321: i had that same issue 30 minutes ago, cleaning out those directories fixed it
[03:08] <L3top> You can do all sorts of things Nordom. You could install ONE of the various options... and just keep trying different desktop environments... they are ALL ubuntu at their core, using ubuntu repositories.
[03:08] <shade34321> nyRednek, so just clean out everything under /var/lib/apt
[03:08] <L3top> You can try the live versions also Nordom. If you have a virtual machine... you can install to it...
[03:08] <nyRednek> shade34321: that's what i did...at worst, the apt command will have to fetch it all
[03:09] <nyRednek> shade34321: but make sure you still have the partial/ directory under /var/lib/apt when you're done
[03:10] <shade34321> nyRednek, so just delete cdroms.list extended_states, keyring, lists, mirrors, periodic
[03:10] <nyRednek> i meant the files, there are duplicate files within...
[03:10] <nyRednek> or were on mine
[03:12] <Glitchd> hello everyone
[03:12] <Glitchd> im trying to install wireless adapter wg111t in ubuntu 12.04, the install is problem is that the comptuer that has ubuntu installed on it has no way to be plugged into my router
 is there any way to get the drver and ndiswrapper on another computer and transfer them to the one needing them
[03:13] <shade34321> nyRednek, I'm making a back up first then trying your method
[03:14] <shade34321> zykotick9, I don't see any duplicates, would you like to see what I have?
[03:14] <nyRednek> shade34321: of course, don't take my word for it...
[03:14] <Glitchd> can anyone help me with getting wireless to work in 12.04?
[03:14] <shade34321> nyRednek, I am going to try but if it doesn't work then I have a back up plan
[03:15] <Dougie187> Hi all, can anyone tell me if it's possible to get what is essentially an "ls" for a website?
[03:15] <Nordom> L3top: so you mean if I install ubuntu I can upload "_"buntu and wouldnt have to do some lenghty install like you would have to do with windows?
[03:15] <Dougie187> basically, I want to mirror files on a website
[03:16] <Phiscribe> Dougie187 get a spider or crawler or do something clever with wget
[03:16] <L3top> Nordom: the backend is the same, no matter what... you just install a desktop enviornment you want over top of it.
[03:16] <Dougie187> Phiscribe: ok, so what if I know all of the files end in a specific extension, and I only want to download new ones?
[03:16] <L3top> Nordom: based on what you have said thus far, I would install Kubuntu. It is the most familiar to windows users in my experience.
[03:17] <Phiscribe> its possible
[03:17] <Phiscribe> or doable that is
[03:17] <Nordom> L3top: I guess what I mean if I say install basic ubuntu, and then after a year I wanted to use kubuntu, it wouldnt delete everything like change from xp to win7 would (yes it doesnt delete everything but it makes it all messty IMHO thats better to just clean install)
[03:17] <Phiscribe> some sights might reject a crawel/spiders user agent string, might have to change it
[03:18] <Dougie187> ok
[03:18] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: If you wanted a total swtich, yes you would have to do that.
[03:19] <Dougie187> Thanks!
[03:19] <Nordom> JasonGriffee_: ahhh thx =D
[03:19] <L3top> No Nordom... your old desktop environment would still be available as well... all of your "personal" folders would not move or be different... you would just have a different gui.
[03:19] <acajaja_> hello
[03:19] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: I would recommend using the Live CDs first to play-test them to get a feel before taking the plundge.
[03:19] <Nordom> JasonGriffee: I plan too ;D
[03:20] <acajaja_> hey, need some help with Lucid Server
[03:20] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: That being said, if you regually back-up your files, it shoudl be non-issue.
[03:21] <acajaja_> i'm having that "doesn't recognize hard drive" issue
[03:21] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: Once you get into a groove with Linux, you will find that setup is outright simple.
[03:21] <shade34321> zykotick9, so commenting out my google line seemed to have fixed the problem though i don't know why. There's nothing else in the file for google
[03:21] <acajaja_> my set up is not going ez at all
[03:21] <acajaja_> i've scoured the web for help but no luck
[03:22] <Nordom> I was hoping for something more radicuntally different from windows, like how using a mac is from a windows exprience, but it looks most "_"buntus are modled after windows and macs because its familuar... and ubuntu itsell looks to smartphonish =( I probably would be best served with kubuntu... but its not different enough for mytastes XD
[03:22] <zykotick9> shade34321: did you see that in sources.list?  i think google installs a PPA in sources.list.d
[03:22] <acajaja_> Lucid simply does notsee my 2nd hard drive
[03:22] <ekaj> How do I uninstall 64bit wine and just leave the 32?
[03:22] <Phiscribe> acajaja_ ill ask the obvious, does bios see it?
[03:22] <Nordom> does ubuntu slow down after years of build up just like windows or does it stay pretty fast?
[03:23] <l1t> I know how to create startup scripts. But how do I make a startup script run last out of all the startup scrips...If that makes sense lol
[03:23] <ekaj> Windows only slows if you don't take care of it
[03:23] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: NO
[03:23] <acajaja_> i've done all the dmesg, fdisk -l, lspci, etc... and it tells me stuff but doesn't help me find & mount the drive
[03:23] <l1t> And or how do I make one run first. So the first thing init calls upon is the script in question
[03:23] <acajaja_> anyone?
[03:23] <shade34321> zykotick9, yeah there was a google line  in the sources.list and a google-chrome.list under sources.list.d, guess those were the two conflicint things. Thanks for your help!
[03:23] <acajaja_> Bueller?
[03:23] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: You will not see the same sluggishness as with windows
[03:24] <acajaja_> are people seeing my msgs?
[03:24] <habibi> yes
[03:24] <acajaja_> ok, so am i in the wrong room then?
[03:25] <acajaja_> i need help
[03:25] <Phiscribe> acajaja_ ill ask the obvious, does bios see it?
[03:25] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: the sluggness is caused by windows's behind-the-sence logging of your activities
[03:25] <acajaja_> ok, tnx... so...
[03:25] <adoniscik> what's the difference between recovery mode followed by resume and a normal boot?
[03:26] <acajaja_> it's a PCI card w a 200GB hard drive attached
[03:26] <acajaja_> Lucid sees the PCI crad
[03:26] <JasonGriffee_> Linux doesn't use that junk.
[03:26] <acajaja_> but no hd
[03:26] <rafaelsoaresbr_> how to send file to a ssh server? (i'm already connect to the server)
[03:26] <Phiscribe> acajaja_ ok, does your bios set up see the drive? not ubuntu, the BIOS?
[03:26] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: Linux doesn't use that junk.
[03:26] <Nordom> JasonGriffee: well that and windows is pretty shit for completely deleteing something... always has remnents stuck somewhere especially if its os related crap
[03:26] <zykotick9> !scp | rafaelsoaresbr_
[03:27] <acajaja_> don't think so, but not sure. Using a PowerPC with OpenFirmware
[03:27] <acajaja_> i didn't see any hard drives (or didn't know what i was looking at)
[03:27] <Phiscribe> acajaja_ if bios does not see it, no operating system in the world will work with it
[03:27] <acajaja_> i saw the buses, etc...
[03:27] <acajaja_> It works fine when I boot into OS X
[03:28] <acajaja_> been using it for years
[03:28] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: Did you have any other questions?
[03:28] <acajaja_> so i can only assume that the BIOS sees it
[03:28] <Nordom> deos ubuntu have a task bar like feature to tab through programs?
[03:29] <acajaja_> it's only when i boot into Lucid
[03:29] <shade34321> does anybody here use vnc? I'd like a recomendation on a VNC server to install on a remote machine
[03:29] <Phiscribe> ok what part of ubuntu doesnt see the drive? the file manager? the partition manager or installer?
[03:29] <acajaja_> shade34321_ Vine VNC Serer
[03:30] <acajaja_> have it on my Mac, works great!
[03:30] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: Yes, and Ubuntu it'self makes it easier by letting you pin apps to it.
[03:30] <Nordom> win7 does the same
[03:30] <acajaja_> Phiscribe_ the whole system doesn't see it from installation/partitioning to searching /dev, etc...
[03:31] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: I know, I defected from Windows 7
[03:31] <acajaja_> Phiscribe_ the PCI card shows up as "scsi0"
[03:31] <acajaja_> Phiscribe_ but can't access it or do fdisk -l
[03:33] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: Is there anything else I can help you with?
[03:33] <shade34321> acajaja_, I'm also assuming it works on windows and linux?
[03:34] <Nordom> JasonGriffee: I am probably good, next step to dl and try
[03:34] <JasonGriffee_> Nordom: Ok, have a good day.
[03:35] <Phiscribe> acajaja_ is it truly a scsi drive? how old is it?
[03:39] <IBM1234> anyone here ever setup a server of any type. I want to start a new server project
[03:42] <IBM1234> .
[03:43] <acajaja_> Phiscribe_ it's not a scsi drive, it's a regular 'ol WD SATA
[03:43] <acajaja_> Phiscribe it's prbly 8 yrs old
[03:43] <ekaj> Anyone know how to install 32bit wine through terminal on 64bit wine?
[03:43] <ekaj> **64 bit ubuntu
[03:44] <acajaja_> Phiscribe but as i said, it works fine under Mac OS
[03:44] <IBM1234> anyone here ever setup a server of any type. I want to start a new server project
[03:44] <acajaja_> shade34321 it works fine under Mac OS, never tried under Linux until now
[03:44] <acajaja_> or windows
[03:45] <shade34321> acajaja_, ok. I'll try it but i need something that works for all three, specically linux since most of are machines are linux based
[03:46] <acajaja_> shade34321, ok
[03:46] <acajaja_> shade34321, so what r u sayin?
[03:46] <acajaja_> shade34321, i'm not a windows user, only run it in VM's
[03:47] <acajaja_> shade34321, it's a standard regular Western Digital drive. nothing crazy or special
[03:47] <shade34321> acajaja_, the vnc servers runs on the lab machines, most are running linux of some sort, and I'd like to keep it the same across all if I can. The users use a mixture of OSX/Windows/Linux and if they ask me for a VNC client i'd like...now I'm confused about what you're talking about
[03:48] <acajaja_> shade34321, oh sorry!
[03:48] <acajaja_> shade34321, i was in a different conversation w you in my head
[03:48] <new2ubuntu> I played in poison ivy last week, pulled the vines off a tree and I still don't have rashes from it. this is nice!
[03:48] <acajaja_> shade34321, yes Vine...
[03:48] <shade34321> acajaja_, lol, ok
[03:49] <acajaja_> :)
[03:49] <acajaja_> shade34321, I've never tried Vine on anything but Mac
[03:50] <nyRednek> banyan vines? who dug that old stuff up?
[03:50] <acajaja_> shade34321, i think it may be Mac only actually
[03:50] <nyRednek> that's the only "vine" i remember
[03:51] <nyRednek> and that one went with windows 3.11
[03:51] <shade34321> acajaja_, lol it's ok. I know of TigerVNC works for RHEL, haven't tried it for ubuntu yet
[03:51] <acajaja_> shade34321, ok sorry couldn't be more help
[03:51] <tryingUbuntu> after installing unity and minitube I get this error any help?? what is the image bin url    "System program problem detected"
[03:52] <shade34321> acajaja_, it's ok...now i know of a vnc client for my mac users:)
[03:52] <acajaja_> y
[03:52] <acajaja_> shade34321, yeah Vine has both server & client
[03:53] <acajaja_> shade34321, http://sourceforge.net/projects/osxvnc/
[03:53] <bnwkeys> so ubuntu has disabled my wireless, and won't let me unblock it.  "rfkill unblock all" leaves dell-wifi both soft blocked and hard blocked.
[03:53] <acajaja_> anyway gotta run. 'night all!
[03:54] <nyRednek> bnwkeys: tried hitting the wifi switch?
[03:54] <djzn> can anyone help me out here, has anyone accessing albumartexchange.com without issues
[03:55] <King_Anthony> anyone running Ubuntu on an Acer Desktop?
[03:55] <bnwkeys> nyRednek: just looked for a wifi switch on this inspiron 1501, can't find one, my old latitude had one :/
[03:55] <nyRednek> bnwkeys: there is usually a key sequence that acts as a hardware switch with bios
[03:55] <L3top> !anyone | King_Anthony
[03:55] <nyRednek> bnwkeys: on this toshiba, it's fn+f8
[03:56] <bnwkeys> ok thanks, gonna look it up
[03:57] <nyRednek> bnwkeys: you should see it on your keyboard...as one of your f keys, with the antenna icon painted on it
[03:57] <King_Anthony> Thinking about purchasing an Acer Desktop and I wanted to see if anyone has an opinion on it.
[03:57] <bnwkeys> nyRednek, found it, thanks
[03:58] <nyRednek> King_Anthony: for the most part, linux works with all modern pc hardware...exceptions exist, and sometimes workarounds are necessary, but typically, it will work, and work well
[03:58] <bnwkeys> General Question: I was told that ubuntu 10.something.something was the last solid stable build and that the new ubuntu versions aren't as reliable?  anyone have thoughts on that?
[03:58] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[03:58] <nyRednek> bnwkeys: no prob...had that issue a few times
[03:58] <nyRednek> bnwkeys: i hear that about every (insert last long-used version here) linux
[03:59] <bnwkeys> lol true
[03:59] <nyRednek> bnwkeys: not just on ubuntu, but on fedora releases, debian releases, slackware releases, etc
[03:59] <ShapeShifter499> I just deleted windows and I was going to extend out my ubuntu partition but in disk utility shows my ubuntu (mounted at / ) and a extended partition 50 gigs that sits above that in the partition layout
[03:59] <Santi> please list me channel name for voice recognization in ubuntu !
[03:59] <ShapeShifter499> is it safe to remove that?  it doesn't seem to be mounted anywhere
[04:00] <bnwkeys> nyRednek, i guess people just don't want to have to reconfigure their entire PC again
[04:00] <nyRednek> bnwkeys: apt is your friend
[04:00] <bnwkeys> nyRednek, if my Wifi would stay on and quit breaking shitty routers :P
[04:00] <z3r0n0id> installing komodo edit 7 and it defaults in ~/komodo-edit-7. where do i put it so that i can have all users access it. /usr/bin/ Maybe?
[04:01] <ekaj> What's it mean when a terminal just has ">"?
[04:01] <nyRednek> ekaj: looks like a prompt to me
[04:02] <zykotick9> ekaj: on boot?  perhaps that's grub-rescue?
[04:02] <ShapeShifter499> anyone?
[04:02] <Santi> ekaj:  transfer output of one discripter to other discriptor
[04:02] <z3r0n0id> going to put it in /usr/local/
[04:02] <ekaj> I was trying to install something
[04:03]  * rafaelsoaresbr[A is set as away
[04:03] <greenpuddin> hey got a question, why are my videos choppy with totem and vlc but not youtube? this is when it's in fullscreen mode btw
[04:03] <mysteriousdarren> is everything updated?
[04:03] <zykotick9> ekaj: does "ctrl+c" get you out of it?
[04:03] <nyRednek> greenpuddin: maybe video driver isn't fully compatible with hardware?
[04:03] <rafaelsoaresbr[A> ops, did't notice
[04:04] <greenpuddin> everything is updated and hardware acceleration is on
[04:04] <nyRednek> greenpuddin: you wouldn't happen to have an amd proccessor and ati video, would you?
[04:04] <greenpuddin> uhm... god i can't remember. how can i check?
[04:05] <nyRednek> greenpuddin: don't remember
[04:05] <greenpuddin> i remember there was some *magical* terminal command
[04:05] <nyRednek> greenpuddin: i left my grimoire in my other robes
[04:05] <greenpuddin> oh the drivers installed are ATI/AMD
[04:06] <nyRednek> greenpuddin: that's probably a good indication you have an ati vid card
[04:06] <greenpuddin> thats what i figured :)
[04:06] <nyRednek> greenpuddin: sometimes the proprietary driver does better, sometimes not...it's a case of trial and error with that
[04:07] <greenpuddin> it's funny because i remember having the drivers installed and on and now it's saying it's not activated i'll give it a shot
[04:08] <greenpuddin> after this reboot let's see what happens, thanks for the heads up
[04:08] <Bobert_> Need help      installing cups driver     paste bin   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190142/
[04:08] <nyRednek> greenpuddin: on this one, the proprietary drivers make it scream on video(full screen, hd, vampire nudity and gore)
[04:12] <greenpuddin> heh, i know the driver is installed now and video playback is still choppy.
[04:16] <greenpuddin> well apparently the drivers i'm using are "fglrx_pci" according to the "lshw -c video" terminal command
[04:23] <sshaw> hi, I'm trying to build f-spot from source on ubuntu 12.04 and when I run the autogen.sh script I get this error: autogen.sh: 10: autogen.sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[04:23] <sshaw> the function it errors out on is check_autotool_version
[04:24] <sshaw> am I missing some gnome devel package
[04:24] <sshaw> I'm not familiar with the packages on ubuntu
[04:27] <WeThePeople> is there a website to post pics to?
[04:28] <Phiscribe> WeThePeople as in quick sharing or the whole photo album thing?
[04:29] <WeThePeople> quik share for #ubuntu
[04:29] <Phiscribe> http://imgh.us/  or http://snag.gy/ are two i like, many more
[04:29] <Phiscribe> or course there are dropbox like thingies
[04:29] <Phiscribe> of
[04:30] <Phiscribe> ack imgh.us is down atm
[04:41] <WeThePeople> whats up with my s >> password is 6789 >>> http://imgh.us/ummm.jpg
[04:43] <WeThePeople> its like that with every program
[04:44] <bnwkeys> that's weird, your S's look like black boxes
[04:44] <WeThePeople> red
[04:45] <bnwkeys> err right
[04:47] <WeThePeople> this is rhythmbox >>> http://imgh.us/ummmm.jpg
[04:48] <bnwkeys> lol, that's obnoxious
[04:48] <wmarone> heh
[04:48] <wmarone> apparently your desktop thinks the letter "S" is obscene
[04:49] <bnwkeys> either that or an infringement of copyright! *gasp*
[04:49] <bnwkeys> rebooting kernel, brb
[04:50] <fishbait> how do i get ubuntu grub to detect the option to chainload pc-bsd9?
[04:50] <WeThePeople> ok, any ideas why
[04:50] <WeThePeople> this is a support channel
[04:53] <Bobert_> need some help uninstall mfc495cw printer drivers to reinstall
[04:53] <Bobert_> Cups shows printer   but do not work
[04:53] <fishbait> i just need to get grub to list the option to boot from the bsd drive then just pass off to the btx loader.
[04:54] <WeThePeople> any ideas why the s in use isnt showing up? >>> http://imgh.us/um.jpg
[04:55] <bnwkeys> have you tried reinstalling the font?
[04:55] <fishbait> whats the command to list the devices in hd 2,0 format?
[04:56] <Bobert_> it is possible to just delete in cups  and reinstall using gui  for printers?
[04:56] <WeThePeople> bnwkeys, no sudo apt-get install ???
[04:57] <bnwkeys> wethepeople, I have no idea, i'm very new to using linux and ubuntu.  Sorry, but i won't be much help
[04:57] <Bobert_> really frustrating     no being able to print            stopped functioning after two years  post new kernel install
[04:58] <Bobert_> any one ?????    PRINTER help
[05:01] <Priyans> hello, i am using 12.04 ubuntu. can anyone tell me where are the print screens stored? i am unable to find them :(
[05:02] <WeThePeople> priyans, what do you mean by print screen
[05:02] <Priyans> WeThePeople, print screen is an option, where you can capture a screen shot.
[05:03] <WeThePeople> ahh yes
[05:04] <Priyans> WeThePeople, I am unable to locate it in the Pictures directory in my Home folder
[05:04] <WeThePeople> priyans, when you press prtsc it should come up with a place to save to
[05:04] <WeThePeople> do you need to press the function key to use it
[05:05] <Phiscribe> you could use this http://snag.gy/  thit the prntscrn button then ctrl v into that page
[05:05] <Priyans> The amazing thing  is that it didnt show up. I guess I autosaved the name as Date and Time. Yes I need to press a key to use it.
[05:06] <Priyans> WeThePeople, Phiscribe , sorry! found it! I autosaved the path in Downloads directory! My bad!
[05:07] <Bobert_> I guess no one wants to help........
[05:07] <WeThePeople> bobert_, what distro u on
[05:08] <zangetsu> I wanna know, I must update my ubuntu 10.10 Lts t Ubuntu 12 Lts..
[05:08] <zangetsu> what tink
[05:09] <WeThePeople> do what you want
[05:10] <crimsonmane> zangetsu: if you stay on 10.10, you will stop receiving all updates including security updates, leaving your system more vulnerable over time.
[05:11] <zangetsu> ok, is better if update..?
[05:11] <Phiscribe> zabomber what crimsonmane said, but in my personal experience, just me, you get much less hassle doing a clean install verses an upgrade
[05:11] <crimsonmane> that's correct. a clean install is ALWAYS the recommended way to upgrade.
[05:12] <nyRednek> zangetsu: 10.10 isn't lts, iirc, but yeah, you must eventually upgrade
[05:12] <crimsonmane> in all honesty, you can use 10.10 for as long as you like.
[05:12] <nyRednek> zangetsu: if you want to have a system with security patches, anyways
[05:12] <crimsonmane> but you'll get compromised
[05:13] <zangetsu> thanks....
[05:13] <nyRednek> crimsonmane: yeah, i'm in the process of going from 10.04 to 12.04 now
[05:13] <nyRednek> i've had success in the past using apt to updgrade, using the version upgrade tool
[05:14] <nyRednek> then again, i've installed from DSL to debian once upon a time, then used apt to upgrade from the ancient version that would install over from DSL
[05:15] <zangetsu> two days ago received, the message to update, but I need others opinion...
[05:15] <crimsonmane> zangetsu: it depends on your computer
[05:16] <nyRednek> also, been using linux my entire adult life, so know how to find help when something goes wrong
[05:17] <zangetsu> I new usin ubuntu...
[05:18] <nyRednek> zangetsu: 10.04 will be supported for another year
[05:18] <nyRednek> at least
[05:19] <crimsonmane> zangetsu: copy your home folder to an external storage device regardless what you decide. you will want to upgrade to 12.04 at some point
[05:20] <nyRednek> zangetsu: if you're worried, i suggest you grab an installer iso and do a fresh install of the newer version, back up your /home, unless you have /home on a separate partition
[05:20] <zangetsu> So I needed another opinion...
[05:20] <nyRednek> zangetsu: for future reference, i suggest keeping /home on a separate partition from / anyways
[05:23] <nyRednek> running a 1G+ apt grab is no fun on a 3g connection
[05:23] <zangetsu> Thanks, will do that ....
[05:26] <zangetsu> but my pc is a geezer
[05:26] <zangetsu> see you soo........
[05:26] <nyRednek> define 'geezer'
[05:26] <zangetsu> old..
[05:27] <crimsonmane> zangetsu: Lubuntu is probably what you should be using
[05:34] <aishwarya> i am getting this message :  #RubyOnRails :Cannot send to channel
[05:34] <aishwarya> on the #rubyonrails channel
[05:34] <aishwarya> i am new to irc chat..can anyone help me?
[05:35] <aishwarya> hello? any one there?
[05:35] <david__> Hey does anyone here use Gnome Classic?
[05:35] <Phiscribe> Aibenez the room/channel #freenode can help you, but i am guessing the ruby channel requires that you register your nickname to join the conversation
[05:35] <Phiscribe> aishwarya i meant
[05:35] <idefix> when testing my sound front left doesn't work, front right does, weird..
[05:36] <md_5> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:36] <md_5> /dev/sda6        61G   56G  1.8G  97% /
[05:36] <aishwarya> how do i register my nickname?
[05:36] <md_5> never did I think ubuntu would become my primary OS
[05:36] <md_5> resizing funtime!
[05:36] <pinky-> •aishwarya• look here http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[05:38] <aishwarya> pinky, where should i type this? /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com
[05:39] <graham_king> aishwarya: Straight into your IRC client. When you start a line with a / it's a command
[05:39] <pinky-> aishwarya : type it in your status window incase you error and no-one will see
[05:39] <jeep> i did that whole register thing .... now i am jeep!
[05:39] <Phiscribe> aishwarya it will work anywhere but best to type into the server window or a window not a chat window as if you type it wrong, the whole room will see your password
[05:41] <crimsonmane> and email
[05:43] <aishwarya> graham_king pinky Phiscribe thank you!
[05:43] <pinky-> your welcome
[05:45] <Gigacore> aishwarya, nice name!
[05:45] <jeep> what does aishwarya mean ?
[05:46] <Gigacore> fortune
[05:46] <jeep> that is kind of cool
[05:46] <Phiscribe> also a indian movie star
[05:46] <Gigacore> that's rai
[05:47] <aishwarya> jeep it means auspiciousness
[05:48] <pinky-> jeep now you are jeep did you know.. You can ask for an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode. This is our standard cloak and normally shows @unaffiliated/youraccountname.
[05:48] <Gigacore> aishwarya, i thought it is fortune
[05:48] <pinky-> applies to aishwarya also
[05:49] <aishwarya> Gigacore, yes it means fortune, prosperity. too
[05:49] <jeep> pinky-: i change my ip more often than my underwhere so not worth bothering with
[05:49] <jeep> err underwear*
[05:49] <pinky-> jeep ip doesn't matter, it goes on nick and password
[05:51] <jeep> are the any ubuntu related projects dealing with automotive systems .. something similar to ford sync/ms
[05:53] <Gigacore> aishwarya, okay
[05:58] <Nordom> Question: How well does ubuntu support gamming? AKA what precentage of games could I expect to work with Ubuntu?
[06:00] <crimsonmane> Nordom: about all of em?
[06:00] <Gigacore> Nordom, there are some windows based games that run pretty good on ubuntu via Wine. And there are quite a many games that also run effortlesslessly. Check WineHQ
[06:01] <Gigacore> **
[06:02] <Phiscribe> Nordom ive eventauly been able to run most games under wine, when ive tried.  however, there are hoops to jump thru and mountains to climb at times
[06:02] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:02] <ShapeShifter499> so I have brasero installed and it wont let me burn a copy of gparted live cd to my dvd+r, in fact it doesn't even display my drive even though ubuntu auto mounts it just fine, anyone know how I can get this burned?
[06:02] <Nordom> so Wine and WineHQ? ( am dling ubuntu atm )
[06:02] <crimsonmane> ShapeShifter499: install kburn
[06:02] <IlikeMoose> who wants to help me with a screen resolution problem? my monitor is being identified incorrectly and i'm stuck at 1024x768 and can't seem to change it back to 1280x1024.
[06:03] <Gigacore> Nordom, Win enables you to run windows based apps / games on linux - http://appdb.winehq.org/
[06:03] <Gigacore> Wine*
[06:03] <Nordom> philballew: how often do u have to climb mountains?
[06:03] <Gigacore> Why am doing so many TYPOS!
[06:03] <Phiscribe> often enough that it is tireing
[06:04] <Gigacore> sounds interesting
[06:04] <Nordom> do any of u guys duel boot win7 and ubuntu?
[06:04] <Gigacore> yes, I do
[06:04] <Phiscribe> yes
[06:04] <crimsonmane> Nordom: let's cut to the chase... what game(s) are you intending on trying?
[06:05] <h22turbo> Nordom: yea
 u prob need to install ur video card drivers... or reinstall them
[06:06] <IlikeMoose> h22turbo, when i installed the updated drivers it took me from 640x480 to 1024x768
[06:06] <Gigacore> this channel is pretty quiet lately. It was so full of buzz back in 2010-11
[06:07] <Nordom> well I have a 2nd PC that I was thinking to just put linux based os on because well I have never done linux and it might be fun, also I am currently us this netbook for mostly net/work related/ and programming on... It is fine but I have also been pushing around the idea of what if I install unbuntu on this PC, and that slight PC boost might be what I need since windows ALWAYS Start to slow
[06:07] <Nordom> down after 1 or 2 years without a wipe despite making sure you dont put crap on it
[06:07] <h22turbo> Gigacore: thats because all the ops here are anal about everything and u can barely help people without getting kicked, told to talk in another channel, told we dont support that method, or getting the dumb !whatever messages
[06:08] <jeep> !ot | h22turbo
[06:08] <h22turbo> like those...
[06:08] <h22turbo> ^^^^^^
[06:08] <Nordom> But on my main rigg I play everything under the sun for games... and I always hurd you couldnt use directx on linux so if u want the Crysis exprience you need to stay windows
[06:08] <Gigacore> h22turbo, I see
[06:08] <mikecc> hey guys ive been super impressed with ubuntu, it convinced me to switch over from slackware and debian :) anyway i have 1 problem: sometimes when i watch some videos on youtube or some music on grooveshark, the music starts going extremely fast and the player starts playing extremely fast and everything with the player (regardless of website, any kind of player it can happen to) doesnt work.  however, if i killall -9 pulseaudio it starts working again
[06:08] <jeep> h22turbo: we have to keep order here!
[06:09] <mikecc> however sometimes some videos just keep "crashing" pulseaudio and i cant watch them at all, some i can watch. the kind of player seems random
[06:09] <h22turbo> but, thats why its pretty quiet around here... and nobody really helps others
[06:09] <mikecc> its like the video is on fast forward, its really strange
[06:09] <mikecc> anyone have any idea?
[06:09] <jeep> h22turbo: i wait on interesting problems heheh \
[06:10] <Phiscribe> yeah the burn the hertics crowd is strong in here, they got oversized red painted torches
[06:10] <mikecc> jeep: as a long time linux user, i would consider mine interesting :P
[06:10] <Nordom> h22turbo: most like people have very specific problems and people here don't know how to fix it, so they dont say anything.... Best trouble shoot is still forums =/
[06:10] <Gigacore> h22turbo, that explains everything
[06:11] <h22turbo> well, every questions asked in here is answered by a simple google search... but dont ever tell somebody to google it
[06:11] <Nordom> Well to put my gaming questions a different way: Are they any resent gaming titles you have had problems with?
[06:11] <h22turbo> !google | h22turbo
[06:12] <Nordom> h22turbo: thats IRC default troubleshooting help
[06:12] <IdleOne> h22turbo: Complaining in here about how the ops are too strict is a great way to get the ops attention.
[06:12] <jeep> mikecc: it is fairly perplexing what browser are you using and what kind of sound card ?
[06:12] <mikecc> jeep: chrome, and umm let me check
[06:12] <mikecc> jeep: a few users on the internet have reported the same issue but i havent seen a fix
[06:12] <crimsonmane> hey you wanna know one great way to get the ops attention? speak your mind.
[06:12] <Nordom> regarless of channel people will tell u google first and ask 2nd, because most people here would probably just google the answers FOR U, meaning ur are being lazy
[06:12] <jeep> mikecc: same result with other browsers ?
[06:13] <BoBdOlE> ello everone
[06:13] <crimsonmane> hi
[06:13] <ph1rmw4r3> anyone ever try zorin os?
[06:13] <Gigacore> hi
[06:13] <BoBdOlE> no I am not a bot either cause I know that question is coming lol
[06:13] <ph1rmw4r3> im also not a bot lol
[06:13] <Nordom> I am a bot O.o
[06:13] <BoBdOlE> good to know phlrmw4r3
[06:14] <BoBdOlE> lol
[06:14] <jeep> h22turbo: ubuntu's target audience are new and inexpierenced users .. the kernel how-to says dont build your own for example
[06:14] <crimsonmane> i tried zorin
[06:14] <ph1rmw4r3> howd u like it?
[06:14] <Nordom> ph1rmw4r3: can you explain wineHQ I dont really understandding what I am seeing on this website, just a bunch of apps... do I use them to play these games?
[06:14] <crimsonmane> it was a ripoff
[06:14] <mikecc> jeep: well.... now i cant get it to reproduce. it doesnt happen all the time lol..
[06:14] <mikecc> but it happens enough to be annoying
[06:15] <BoBdOlE> so I have a question. Im a bit new to all this here. def not a complete noob but i am learning quick. just run into a few snags and I had someone helping me but at the moment his ass is snoring lol
[06:15] <ph1rmw4r3> well with zorin wine is intergrated pretty well lol
[06:15] <crimsonmane> !language
[06:15] <root___> what's bot?
[06:15] <mikecc> BoBdOlE: just ask the question
[06:15] <jeep> mikecc: in a shell type lspci and show me the line for the sound card
[06:15] <ph1rmw4r3> you shouldnt log in as root lol XD
[06:15] <crimsonmane> !language | BoBdOlE
[06:15] <crimsonmane> there it goes
[06:15] <BoBdOlE> why is it telling me to see above??
[06:16] <crimsonmane> cuz i did it twice
[06:16] <mikecc> jeep:  01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[06:16] <ph1rmw4r3> lol dont curce
[06:16] <ph1rmw4r3> curse*
[06:16] <crimsonmane> no swearing. christians are present
[06:16] <BoBdOlE> oh I got it. I said Arse lol
[06:16] <ph1rmw4r3> ^ XD
[06:16] <crimsonmane> darn autocorrect. CHILDREN lol
[06:16] <root___> oh
[06:16] <BoBdOlE> hahaha
[06:16] <BoBdOlE> ok anyhow....
[06:17] <BoBdOlE> so I have an older laptop with ubuntu 10.04 on it. I am having alot of problems with my wireless card and drivers. compat doesnt work and neither does the ndiswrapper...
[06:17] <crimsonmane> BoBdOlE: built-in wifi card?
[06:18] <BoBdOlE> so I put archbang on my desktop and am trying to use the same exact install disk on my laptop
[06:18] <BoBdOlE> yes. for my laptop that is. my desktop was having the same problem and that was using a wireless adapter
[06:18] <crimsonmane> please don't use the enter key as a replacement for punctuation. it makes it so hard to read.
[06:18] <BoBdOlE> just an old kernel issue I come to the conclusion
[06:20] <ph1rmw4r3> with older hardware i have to recommend Xubuntu, BoBd0le
[06:20] <BoBdOlE> but for some reason my laptop is not recognizing the live cd... not sure why. it recognizes everything else. just not that disk. disk is a good burn for I used it to install it on my desktop and worked flawlessly
[06:20] <ph1rmw4r3> have you tryed usb install?
[06:20] <jeep> mikecc: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=118765 have you seen this ?\
[06:21] <crimsonmane> BoBdOlE: are you sure the disc is cd and not dvd?
[06:21] <ph1rmw4r3> ^
[06:21] <BoBdOlE> well here is my main question. I have the iso that I want sitting on my desktop. but the cd wont work. is there a way that I can install and ISO without burning it to a disk first?
[06:21] <BoBdOlE> correction.. DVD> yes it is
[06:21] <ph1rmw4r3> usb install
[06:21] <crimsonmane> BoBdOlE: you can create a partition on the laptop and put the ISO there and boot from it (see: unetbootin)
[06:22] <BoBdOlE> but both have a dvd drive and it worked fine for my desktop
[06:22] <crimsonmane> BoBdOlE: then the laptop dvd is broken, or your bios is not set to boot from disc
[06:22] <mikecc> jeep: i have not, but not sure if that applies. i have a working PCM and everything works flawlessly, just sometimes it seems pulseaudio
[06:22] <mikecc> fucks up
[06:22] <crimsonmane> !language | mikecc
[06:22] <BoBdOlE> it works to boot any reg dvd and bios is set to boot cd rom first
[06:22] <mikecc> crimsonmane is the most uptight person ive seen on IRC
[06:23] <Gigacore> ^_^
[06:23] <BoBdOlE> I really dont know the first thing about partitioning stuff and thats where my problem lies
[06:23]  * crimsonmane is bored.
[06:23]  * Gigacore too
[06:23] <crimsonmane> just dont wanna see you get booted by the gestapo.
[06:24] <boss> hello
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> howto get rights on a folder from another user on his /home on usb device?
[06:24] <jeep> i got booted out other day it doesnt hurt!
[06:24] <IdleOne> Anybody else want to see how little it takes?
[06:24] <mikecc> yeah ban me fucker
[06:24] <Gigacore> lotuspsychje, chmod?
[06:24] <mikecc> y
[06:24] <mikecc> y
[06:24] <mikecc> y
[06:24] <mikecc> y
[06:24] <mikecc> y
[06:24] <FloodBot1> mikecc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24]  * crimsonmane apologizes
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> Gigacore: whats the command mate
[06:25] <IdleOne> Please get back on topic Ubuntu support. keep all off topic comments in #ubuntu-offtopic. Thatnk you.
[06:25] <IdleOne> thank*
[06:25] <jeep> lotuspsychje:  chown -R username:group /path
[06:26] <Gigacore> lotuspsychje, chmod 755 /dir/
[06:26] <Gigacore> lotuspsychje, and u can use any rights other than 755
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> Gigacore: ok tnx mate
[06:26] <BoBdOlE> did I lose the person I was talking to?
[06:27] <Gigacore> lotuspsychje, also you can make use of chown to give user rights
[06:27] <Gigacore> I'm out. Ciao!
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Gigacore: its to gain root rights on a hd from another ubuntu laptop
[06:27] <jeep> lotuspsychje: chown is the proper command for changing ownership
[06:28] <BoBdOlE> crimsonmane are you there? lol
[06:28] <crimsonmane> i am here. but i'm not particularly interested in your troubles. your description kinda lost me.
[06:28] <crimsonmane> i think it's above my ability
[06:28] <randomDude> i like your brutal honesty
[06:29] <BoBdOlE> well I apreciate the honesty. basically I just want to be able to install an ISO without a boot disk. just not sure how to do it lol
[06:29] <crimsonmane> oh, right ... booting. well, as mentioned you could try USB booting
[06:30] <BoBdOlE> i could if it had that listed as an option in my bios. its an older laptop but not that old to have both usb ports and a dvd drive.. not sure why I dont have that option either
[06:30] <crimsonmane> BoBdOlE: put the hard drive into another laptop, install, and return to original position.
[06:31] <BoBdOlE> thanks. I just might try that when I get another laptop lol
[06:31] <jeep> BoBdOlE: partititoning fairly painless !
[06:32] <crimsonmane> put a message on your local craigslist, or google "LUG <yourarea>"
[06:32] <BoBdOlE> I just never done it before jeep so i really dont know where to start.
[06:32] <BoBdOlE> if i partition it and boot from that partion I should be able to istall it??
[06:32] <jeep> BoBdOlE: what operating system is on that computer now ?
[06:33] <BoBdOlE> ubuntu 10.04
[06:33] <crimsonmane> unetbootin will make the partition bootable
[06:34] <BoBdOlE> what would I use to create the partition?
[06:34] <crimsonmane> gparted
[06:35] <sere> choppy mouse on labtop lubuntu 12.4 need help
[06:35] <crimsonmane> well no... you cant
[06:35] <root___> Where are you come from? friends.
[06:35] <crimsonmane> you have to unmount the drive in order to partition it. which you can't because it's your operating system
[06:35] <jeep> sere: usb power settingsa ?
[06:35] <jeep> boot single user and use fdisk
[06:36] <BoBdOlE> sudo apt-get a single stick of TNT??? lmao
[06:36] <BoBdOlE> boot single user??
[06:37] <crimsonmane> BoBdOlE: i really think you're better off looking up a Linux User Group (LUG) in your local area.
[06:37] <jeep> i have never been to a LUG meeting i was always afraid it would be like AA for geeks
[06:37] <BoBdOlE> well thanks for your help anyhow I appreciate it. I know I ask alot lol. like I said I had someone helping me but they are asleep lol
[06:38] <crimsonmane> they do Install Fests
[06:40] <sere> jeep how can i find out
[06:40] <BoBdOlE> they would probably outcast me like a turd in a punch bowl! lmao
[06:40] <jeep> i think the most difficult install is when the wifi or nic needs a custom kernel to operate makes it a whole new ball game
[06:41] <BoBdOlE> yea. the only way I have internet right now is cause Im tethering my phone. hence forth the reason I want to get a new OS with an updated kernel
[06:41] <crimsonmane> i dont think they outcast anyone genuine person
[06:42] <BoBdOlE> well I guess I will keep searching and see what else I can find. thanks for the input guys :)
[07:00] <jeep> place died
[07:02] <crimsonmane> hey jeep i got a riddle for you
[07:02] <adac> After an upgrade my panel on the left is no more hiding. any ideas hwo to do that?
[07:02] <crimsonmane> If you can't boot into grub (for some unknown reason), can you edit some file somewhere to tell it which kernel to select when it boots?
[07:03] <IlikeMoose> thanks crimsonmane  :)
[07:03] <aishwarya>  /msg nickserv help
[07:03] <jeep> used to be menu.lst not sure with newer version
[07:04] <jeep> crimsonmane: i would assume changing the timeout would be easiest
[07:04] <crimsonmane> jeep: you probably are more capable than me in this area. can you lend your assistance (even in googling)?
[07:04] <crimsonmane> i've never edited grub
[07:05] <jeep> crimsonmane: let me look
[07:05] <IlikeMoose> help me jeep!!!! helpme !!!!!!! :)
[07:05] <crimsonmane> jeep: we need this guy's grub menu to let him select an older kernel which let's his resolution show properly.
[07:05] <jeep> crimsonmane: ill find the ubuntu way!
[07:05] <crimsonmane> but holding shift did not enter grub. it hung the system
[07:05] <paulus68> #acer-liquid
[07:06]  * IlikeMoose kicks my foxconn motherboard
[07:07] <morgan> can someone please help me figure out how to mount 2 ntfs hdd that were in raid 1 on windows 7 D:
[07:07] <mr_ubuntu> Hello World, tivial Q. Intenet not working on Ubuntu via LAN or wireless, after i played with dnsmsq , i was trying to create a hotspot for internet sharing via Wifi... logs are here , plzzz help http://wikisend.com/download/478784/logs.tar.gz
[07:08] <insomniakvirc> hi all
[07:08] <crimsonmane> morgan: type "/join ##windows" without the quotes
[07:08] <mr_ubuntu> hi insomniakvirc
[07:08] <crimsonmane> morgan: nevermind i misunderstood you
[07:09] <morgan> haha, they WERE in windows 7, now on ubuntu :\
[07:09] <jeep2> im back!
[07:09] <mr_ubuntu> hi crimsonmane
[07:09] <jeep2> crimsonmane: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 scroll down to the time delay section
[07:10] <sere> choppy mouse on labtop lubuntu 12.4 need help
[07:10] <subdesign> hi
[07:10] <crimsonmane> IlikeMoose: you get that?
[07:10] <subdesign> what size do you recommend for root when i do startup partitioning?
[07:11] <IlikeMoose> crimsonmane, yeah i think so
[07:11] <crimsonmane> IlikeMoose: ok. lemme know if it works or not. you're on your own now.
[07:11] <crimsonmane> thank you jeep2
[07:12] <jeep2> subdesign: how are you using the computer ?
[07:12] <subdesign> jeep2, what do you mean?
[07:12] <jeep2> subdesign: is it just a desktop ?
[07:12] <subdesign> yes
[07:12] <jeep2> subdesign: how big a drive ?
[07:13] <subdesign> 500gb, for linux will be 55gb
[07:13] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, after i change the time display for grub do i need to run any other commands? i couldn't see any to run....
[07:14] <jeep2> subdesign: stingy with the drive space huh ?
[07:14] <subdesign> ah no sorry
[07:14] <tylerb> I'm trying to mount a floppy but I keep getting this error:  mount: /dev/fd0: can't read superblock
[07:14] <subdesign> ill buy an ssd and half of the drive (120-> 110/2) will be for ubuntu
[07:15] <jeep2> subdesign: i would do 3 partititons /swap just a lil more than amount of ram .. / has 25-30 gig and then the rest as /home
[07:15] <subdesign> jeep2, so much i guess for the updates
[07:15] <subdesign> for root
[07:16] <jeep2> subdesign: /home a seperate partittion will allow you to format / reinstall the linux os and keep all your files
[07:16] <subdesign> right
[07:16] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: the problem you have is with the display not the timeout ?
[07:17] <crimsonmane> jeep2: the problem was he rebooted, held down shift to enter grub menu in order to select an older kernel, and the system got wonky
[07:17] <subdesign> tricky question: i read about the impotance of partitions order , what about with SSD ?
[07:17] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, it won't show the grub menu after i hold shift
[07:17] <crimsonmane> subdesign: more important with SSD is turning off the extra disc-writing settings in linux
[07:17] <IlikeMoose> i changed this to 20 GRUB_DEFAULT=20
[07:17] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: changing the timeout will display the menu
[07:18] <IlikeMoose> in /etc/default/grub
[07:18] <morgan> can someone please help me figure out how to mount 2 ntfs hdd that were in raid 1
[07:18] <crimsonmane> so by changing the timeout you don't have to hold shift
[07:18] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: reboot see if the menu shows
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> can someone paste me the zero command for my /dev/sdc1 ?
[07:18] <IlikeMoose> i just did, it didn't
[07:18] <ktormis> alo
[07:18] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: it hates you!
[07:18] <subdesign> crimsonmane, thanks a little explanation for that?
[07:18] <IlikeMoose> i know :(
[07:19] <IlikeMoose> my pc is rebelling against me, something about a file i put in there called "death star plans.txt" or something....
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> !zero
[07:19] <crimsonmane> subdesign: you'll have to seek help from another (or google) because i've never done it. i've only read about it.
[07:19] <subdesign> okay i'll do that
[07:20] <crimsonmane> IlikeMoose: question... which shift are you holding?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> i need the zero command for secure erasing my dev/dsc1 so recovery software cant trace back please
[07:20] <subdesign> so no importance of part.order by SSD, against conv. HDD
[07:20] <IlikeMoose> crimsonmane, left shift
[07:20] <crimsonmane> lotuspsychje: why? the FBI on to you?
[07:20] <crimsonmane> IlikeMoose: ok that's the one i use also
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> crimsonmane:sssst dont tell anyone plz
[07:20] <crimsonmane> subdesign: no important of partition order
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> IlikeMoose:did you change BIOS to ahci for ssd?
[07:21] <subdesign> thank you jeep2 , crimsonmane for valuable info :)
[07:21] <IlikeMoose> ???
[07:21] <tylerb> mount: /dev/fd0: can't read superblock
[07:21] <tylerb>    why do I keep getting this error
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> tylerb: do you have a floppy drive?
[07:22] <tylerb> yes
[07:22] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: edit the file(s) in /etc/grub.d/ then run update-grub it seems is the correct method
[07:22] <crimsonmane> afk smoke break
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> !format
[07:23] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, which files there's 8 of them
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows the secure erase command zero for my dev/dsc1?
[07:23] <jeep2> lotuspsychje: dd
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> jeep2:will it be untraceable back after?
[07:24] <jeep2> lotuspsychje: and dont typo you can do some serious erasing heheh
[07:24] <jeep2> lotuspsychje: what are you trying to hide ?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> jeep2: my latop crashed, but default its got win7, so i dont want the factory seeing ubuntu on it for warranty
[07:25] <tylerb> lotuspsychje: of course
[07:25] <jeep2> IlikeMoose copy paste the list in a pm to me
[07:25] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: or pastebin it
[07:26] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190343/
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> !info shred
[07:26] <jeep2> lotuspsychje: well i dont know about there but here softwareisnt warranty item anyway ..
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> !info wipe
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> there we go
[07:27] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: 40_custom is the proper place to add your entries
[07:27] <mr_ubuntu> hi guys intenet not working for me and kern.log is flooded with messages like : Sep  7 08:01:20 kashif-pc kernel: [ 1838.939061] IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.101 DST=192.168.0.1 LEN=71 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=57697 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=35199 DPT=53 LEN=51  wat does this mean?
[07:28] <ferni> lotuspsychje: take the hard drive of and send it to be repaired
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> ferni: thats little offtopic, but its not the hd thats broken...
[07:28] <mr_ubuntu> hi ubottu jeep2
[07:28] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, just type somewhere in the file GRUB_DEFAULT=30 ???
[07:29] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: DPT destination port 53 is dns .. its trying to resolve a hostname
[07:29] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: yeah
[07:29] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: what does your /etc/resolv.conf have in it ?
[07:30] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 thanks let me check
[07:31] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, here goes the reboot wish me luck!
[07:31] <mr_ubuntu> hi jeep2 this file is empty for me # Generated by NetworkManager
[07:31] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: did you update-grub ?
[07:31] <ozette> I'm having troubles with a dual monitor setup, I don't want to mirror displays
[07:32] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: what os is the computer your on now ?
[07:32] <ozette> But my 2nd screen has a different resolution, so I get some error message
[07:32] <ozette> Some days it works, some days it doesn't
[07:33] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 actually i have dual boot ,11.10 ubuntu (intenet not working) , 10.4 ubuntu ( internet working) currently i am logged in via 10.04 trying to resolve 11.04 ineternet problem
[07:34] <ozette> what can I do with this error message: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested", It doesn't help
[07:34] <xwalk_> Morning all. I'm still having some trouble with configuring my trackpad. I'm using openbox and I can't seem to figure out how to disable the tap capability for the touchpad. I've tried using gpointing-device-settings and it doesn't seem to change any behaviour. Any ideas?
[07:34] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: uh so what computer are you on irc from ?
[07:34] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: which resolv.conf did you look at ?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Howto zero secure erase my /dev/sdc1?
[07:34] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 for 10.04 (this one which is working ) i looked at resolv.conf for (11.10 not working)
[07:35] <crimsonmane> lotuspsychje: that doesn't make it so forensics can't recover data. FYI. you're chasing a ghost. just format it.
[07:35] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, didn't work :( just went straight into loading the operating system
[07:35] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: did you update-grub ?
[07:35] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, yes
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> crimsonmane: with photorec i can recover any partition thats has been 'normal' formatted
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> crimsonmane: i want it deleted properly
[07:36] <crimsonmane> lotuspsychje: why do you even care?
[07:36] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: the one that works ... what does /etc/resolv.conf say ?
[07:36] <mr_ubuntu> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[07:36] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 nameserver 192.168.0.1
[07:36] <adac> how to auto hide unity slidebar?
[07:37] <theGrg> adac see appearance settings
[07:37] <jeep2> mr gop back to 11.10 and make sure it says that
[07:37] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: ^^
[07:37] <adac> theGrg, ahh there it is thank you
[07:38] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 the one that works says "nameserver 192.168.0.1"
[07:38] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: lookin the other files for that setting
[07:38] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, ok
[07:38] <theGrg> So what's the current state of indicator applets on Ubuntu, last I checked there were memory leaks that resulted from using them.
[07:38] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: right .. reboot to other one and make  sure resolv.conf says that after connecting
[07:39] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 if it does not say it then what should i do before rebooting agian and coming back here?
[07:40] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: did you setup a firewall ?
[07:40] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 no , i removed and reinstalled dhcp and dnsmsq
[07:40] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 i was trying to create a hotspot for sharing internet via wifi
[07:40] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: that explains it lol
[07:41] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: sudo iptables -F will drop all the rules then run sudo dhclient eth0
[07:41] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 lol , shouldn't reinstalling dnsmasq enough?
[07:41] <jeep2> mr_ubuntu: that might get you back online i havent messed with dnsmasq forever
[07:42] <lhmarion> I got 12.04 successfully installed on my sister's HP dm1z.
[07:42] <mr_ubuntu> jeep2 bundle of thanks
[07:42] <lhmarion> Thanks to this IRC channel.
[07:44] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190359/ should i edit this line: if [ "x${GRUB_DEFAULT}" = "x" ] ; then GRUB_DEFAULT=0 ; fi
[07:44] <crimsonmane> did grub ever get fixed?
[07:44] <IlikeMoose> crimsonmane, grub is grubby
[07:45] <ozette> how to set up dual monitor without any errors
[07:45] <crimsonmane> IlikeMoose: if you can't get to grub, there IS another way
[07:45] <IlikeMoose> crimsonmane, use the force!?
[07:46] <ph1rmw4r3> yes
[07:46] <jeep2> the grub_default=0 is telling it to boot the first kernel/os
[07:46] <crimsonmane> IlikeMoose: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40185&sid=fb1f2339e37e92e120cf0203bbb515ac
[07:46] <crimsonmane> but continue with jeep2 sounds like you're on to something
[07:47] <tails2> ozette, I found ARandR to be useful for dual monitor setup.  You can get the package with 'sudo apt-get install arandr'
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | tails2
[07:47] <ph1rmw4r3> !info xulrunner
[07:49] <IlikeMoose> crimsonmane, i bookmarked that, i'll try it in the morning...
[07:49] <crimsonmane> IlikeMoose: when you do it that way, when you reboot it automatically selects the newly installed kernel. but continue with jeep2 sounds like you're on to something with selecting automatically the grub menu thing.
[07:50] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: did youi install a new kernel ?
[07:50] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, not of my own choice, it did the last time it updated
[07:51] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: is the computer only ubuntu ?
[07:51] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, yes
[07:52] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: in 40_file did you set grub_hidden_timeout=10 ?
[07:53] <IlikeMoose> no i must have added the wrong line
[07:53] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: add that ^^ then update-grub then reboot
[07:54] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, done here goes!
[07:54] <crimsonmane> he's learning lots i see
[07:55] <nRy> Where can I find a command line download link for Ubuntu Server OS editions?
[07:55] <crimsonmane> jeep2: you're a scholar and a saint.
[07:55] <jeep2> makes me wanna go pimp my grub!
[07:55] <nRy> is there a webpage with a list of command line options for wget Ubuntu server or something like that?
[07:55] <jeep2> jeep a jeep logo on it
[07:55] <jeep2> *needs
[07:55] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, nothing
[07:56] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: pastebin your output from update-grub
[07:57] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190374/
[07:57] <jimmy> I am converting windows server (attached to 6 windows clients) to two ubuntu servers.  one is to be a router (dhcp, dns, firewall) for increased security.  second is to be samba, apache, sql, raid.  am I on right track?  where can I find info? - have spent 2 months googling w/ no results.
[07:58] <RegexRon> Hello
[07:58] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: change your grub-default=0 to 1
[07:59] <IlikeMoose> in the 00 file or try adding that in the 40 file?
[07:59] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: try the 40_ first
[07:59] <sbl> witam
[07:59] <hateball> jimmy: try #ubuntu-server it's questions more likely to be answered there :)
[08:00] <ozette> tails2, thanks i will try it
[08:00] <jeep2> jimmy: i would use a diffrent distro for the router box myself i like smoothwall .. ubuntu can handle the server apache ect. ect. well
[08:02] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, nothing and still running the same kernel
[08:02] <jimmy> hateball: thx, good idea!
[08:03] <jeep2> IlikeMoose: you on xchat ?
[08:03] <IlikeMoose> jeep2, yes
[08:04] <athena1212> poora
[08:05] <athena1212> how to make a new os
[08:05] <athena1212> or kernal
[08:06] <vlt> athena1212: Like Linus Torvalds did: with an editor and much time ;-)
[08:06] <mr_ubuntu> hi jeep2 thanks for ur help , but i am still facing same problem ...  http://pastebin.com/QLD9ZyE5
[08:06] <athena1212> how to create an os without prior knowledge about any programming?
[08:06] <athena1212> how to create an os without prior knowledge about any programming?
[08:06] <hateball> !ot | athena1212
[08:07] <athena1212> how to create an os without prior knowledge about any programming? please help
[08:07] <ozette> tails2, how do I widen the viewport
[08:07] <hateball> !repeat | athena1212
[08:09] <tails2> ozette, I'm not sure; when I set up my dual monitors I could literally drag the second monitor sideways in ARandR and it made the X screen wider to accommodate it.
[08:10] <ozette> tails2, hmm weird. There's not even enough space for me to put the second screen under the first one
[08:12] <GrimlocK> salut
[08:13] <GrimlocK> y'a t'il une personne pour une aide si possible. Thanks
[08:14] <tails2> ozette, I'm afraid I'm not sure what's going on then; If I expand my window, I eventually see the dark grey area become black; is this why you can't fit your second screen in the layout?
[08:15] <subdesign> when I update ubuntu time to time, the old files (old version etc) are deleted or stay on the storage?
[08:16] <hateball> subdesign: do you mean updates via the update-manager? they replace the old versions
[08:16] <subdesign> yse
[08:16] <subdesign> yes
[08:16] <subdesign> okay thx
[08:17] <ShapeShifter499> hi again
[08:18] <RegexRon> What can I use to access a shared windows network drive?
[08:20] <tails2> RegexRon, I use Gigolo (package gigolo) to access network shares through a GUI.
[08:21] <ShapeShifter499> so I used the latest copy of gparted live cd to resize my ubuntu partition out to the full size after removing windows (and all other operating systems), It did everything up till resizing ubuntu's partition, it failed "nice: read in/out error" or something close to that I don't remember the exact wording.  So figuring I killed my system I decided to try booting anyways and it did, so I force a fsck on the next reboot, that appeared to pass, so
[08:21] <ShapeShifter499>  I ran "fsck.ext4 -f /path/to/disk" in a terminal from a install cd, that passed too.   SO it appears that it did get resized, ubuntu once booted reports the new size, does this mean I shouldn't worry about file system errors and that it did resize properly after all?
[08:21] <maxime__> !fr
[08:22] <mathfreak> msg nickserv identify sunnyhomehigh
[08:22] <subdesign> password? :)
[08:22] <RegexRon> tails2: Thanks
[08:22] <mathfreak> oh crap
[08:23] <gordonjcp> ShapeShifter499: sounds like it
[08:23] <ozette> tail2, 2 monitors barely fit vertically in the dark grey area, and horizontally it won't fit at all. It's so small
[08:23] <ozette> tails2, I can't drag/expand the dark grey area
[08:23] <ShapeShifter499> gordonjcp, super :)
[08:23] <ShapeShifter499> thanks
[08:24] <tails2> ozette, I think the dark grey area may represent the area that your hardware can support as a single X screen, but that's only a best guess.
[08:24] <strigga> Hi there.. I am trying to connect to ubuntu 12 using Xming via XDMCP from windows 7. I get it to connect to the Ubuntu-Box a X seems to start (I see a black screen with the "X" Mouse Cursor, but other than that, nothing happens. I read in the Ubuntuusers.de wiki that XDMCP is not supported unter Ubunti10. Do you know if this is also the case for Ubuntu 12?
[08:24] <ozette> tails2, I see that would be unfortunate
[08:25] <ozette> tails2, sometimes my dual set up works, and sometimes it doesn't. It´s pretty frustrating
[08:26] <lessless> how to install libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 on 12.04?
[08:26] <tails2> ozette, I too have had problems with dual screens in the past, and usually given up on it.  It may be possible to run two separate X screens, but that's beyond my knowledge.
[08:27] <ozette> tails2, ok thanks for your help I'll see what I can do
[08:28] <ix_> why does ubuntu permit it's trademark to be used only for one religion, namely ubuntu christian edition? isn't it religious discrimination?
[08:28] <ix_> its
[08:29] <davido_> What a silly question.
[08:29] <ix_> yeah, it is silly
[08:30] <gordonjcp> ix_: [citation needed]
[08:30] <gordonjcp> ix_: also, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:30] <ShapeShifter499> btw where is the syslog usually at? I can't find it
[08:30] <ix_> gordonjcp: what, do you think mark would permit an ubuntu pastafarian edition?
[08:33] <strigga> lemme ask again :) I am trying to connect to ubuntu 12 using Xming via XDMCP from windows 7. I get it to connect to the Ubuntu-Box a X seems to start (I see a black screen with the "X" Mouse Cursor, but other than that, nothing happens. I read in the Ubuntuusers.de wiki that XDMCP is not supported unter Ubunti10. Do you know if this is also the case for Ubuntu 12?
[08:35] <mathfreak> Hi strigga. I'll try looking up some stuff, but I doubt I'll be able to help you out much.
[08:35] <strigga> mathfreak: OK thanks. I did it for U9 and that worked smoothly.. They probably dropped XDMCP support...
[08:36] <jmtheron> hello how do i add a default route of 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ?
[08:38] <brainiarc7> Hey people, how does one compile and install Mesa 8.0.4 on Ubuntu? I have all the needed libs and source, it compiled and installed but glxinfo shows Mesa 8.0.2. Running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[08:40] <funky1> how can i download something from git?
[08:40] <funky1> already installed git but what now?
[08:40] <olewolf> funky: "git clone <url>"
[08:40] <Corey> funky1: git pull SOURCE
[08:41] <funky1> which one?
[08:41] <Corey> Oh, right.  Initial checkout, clone.
[08:41] <Corey> Disregard me.
[08:41] <funky1> ok thanks!
[08:41] <mathfreak> strigga, I'm afraid I'm not too familiar with your question. You might have already tried this, so I'm not sure if it'll help: http://ubuntuguide.net/enable-xdmcp-remote-login-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts-lightdm
[08:42] <strigga> ah thanks
[08:42] <olewolf> Sorry, accidentally closed my chat window.
[08:42] <strigga> I haven't, but I will right now :D
[08:42] <Corey> funky1: Mine is how you update it going forward.
[08:42] <olewolf> funky1: you "clone" the first checkout. Then to update it, use git pull.
[08:42] <funky1> k cheers!
[08:43] <morgan> should I be getting vsync issues with a normal 720p video D:
[08:43] <fiore>  !list
[08:44] <crimsonmane> fiore: did you mean "/list" ?
[08:45] <gordonjcp> a couple of the channels I'm in, we've ended up doing auto k-line on "!list"
[08:47] <strigga> mathfreak: That did the trick.. I must have overlooked that link then using my best friend google :).. Thanks dude!
[08:50] <mathfreak> strigga: you're very welcome!
[08:52] <PeterGriffin> Excuse me, is there a room dealing with mysql problems?
[08:53] <morgan> I'm pro with mysql !
[08:53] <morgan> what's up?
[08:53] <strigga> mathfreak: goddammit :) I can log on OK (enter username and password and als focus/unfocus the Password firld, but as soon as I have logged on, no keyboard/mouse actions are passed to the ubuntu-box.. When I'm closing the XMING Window, a message pops up, that 31 clients are connected (I doubt that :) ).
[08:53] <exaem> PeterGriffin: #mysql
[08:54] <strigga> Seen that before?
[08:54] <mathfreak> no clue :S
[08:57] <PeterGriffin> morgan: I installed new ubuntu server on but did not archive the base from phpmyadmin. However, i have the tar of my filesystem. Do you know of some howto whit which  I could restore it myself ,being a mysql noob?
[08:58] <olewolf> PeterGriffin: that should be possible. Just remember to stop the MySQL server first.
[08:59] <PeterGriffin> olewolf: Noted, Thanks
[08:59] <strigga> PeterGriffin: Jo you just need phpmyadmin or also all the databases?
[08:59] <gordonjcp> phpmyremoterootvulnerability
[08:59] <olewolf> PeterGriffin: the files you're looking for are in /var/lib/mysql. Remember to keep file permissions and ownership.
[09:00] <PeterGriffin> ok
[09:00] <olewolf> PeterGriffin: oh, and if you need to restore just the phpmyadmin database, copy the "phpmyadmin" file only. Otherwise you'll overwrite everything else.
[09:01] <PeterGriffin> what is phpmyremoterootvulnerability
[09:01] <PeterGriffin> Well it is web based CRM and I dont realy know if this is the case whit the base
[09:02] <PeterGriffin> will it work if I just overwrite that directory
[09:03] <olewolf> PeterGriffin: I'd think so. But make sure to make a backup of the directory first.
[09:03] <PeterGriffin> ok
[09:03] <olewolf> (I'd think so means: I've actually tried that myself.)
[09:04] <mathfreak> hey, does anyone know the name of the old 2D spaceshooter game where 2 satellites orbit a star and try to blow each other up? It would be nice if I could find it in the repositories.
[09:04] <olewolf> mathfreak: asteroids?
[09:05] <mathfreak> I don't think it was that. I remember there was an image of the Sun at the center of the screen.
[09:06] <gordonjcp> mathfreak: space war
[09:07] <mathfreak> gordonjcp: thank you! just found it
[09:08] <PeterGriffin> If the mysql base is was not in the /var/lib/mysql, because i think it must have been in a different partition, how should I look for it?
[09:08] <olewolf> I'm trying to rename eth2 to eth0 (eth1 is my network connection; eth2 isn't currently cabled): I've fixed the udev files and restarted udev. Then "ifdown eth2". Then changed eth2 in /etc/network/interfaces to eth0 and restarted networking. Then "ifup eth0", but:
[09:08] <olewolf> "Cannot find device "eth0"
[09:08] <olewolf> Failed to bring up eth0."
[09:08] <gordonjcp> olewolf: that doesn't make a lot of sense
[09:08] <gordonjcp> why are you trying to do that?
[09:08] <olewolf> gordonjcp: which part of it?
[09:09] <olewolf> gordonjcp: I simply want the network interface to be named "eth0" rather than "eth2".
[09:09] <mevvis> labadiena
[09:10] <gordonjcp> olewolf: that makes no sense
[09:10] <olewolf> Why not?
[09:10] <gordonjcp> because they're not arbitrary names
[09:10] <gordonjcp> you could change the order in which your network cards load
[09:10] <olewolf> I know they're not. And the order in which the network cards load won't matter here.
[09:11] <gordonjcp> well, the order in which they load specifies the name
[09:11] <gordonjcp> eth0 is the first card to load, eth1 is the second, and so on
[09:11] <strigga> PeterGriffin: try to search the files: find -iname 'tablename.MYD' (replace tablename by what you are looking for)
[09:11] <zelco> hello
[09:11] <olewolf> gordonjcp: actually, that's configurable via udev rules.
[09:12] <gordonjcp> olewolf: so change it in udev, then
[09:12] <olewolf> gordonjcp: that's what I did, but after restarting udev the machine doesn't seem to recognize the device.
[09:12] <gordonjcp> oops
[09:12] <gordonjcp> maybe that's because it's got the wrong name now
[09:13] <namoamitabuddha> What's "require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete"?
[09:14] <olewolf> gordonjcp: I doubt it. It's something I've done before.
[09:14] <namoamitabuddha> In network manager settings.
[09:15] <olewolf> namoamitabuddha: I'd wager a guess that it signifies that the network connection MUST have an IP4 (i.e., traditional) network connection, and that IPv6 won't suffice.
[09:19] <shihan> howdy folks, just a quick question, anyone know off the top of their head what version of ubuntu i'd have to go back to if i wanted nfsv3 rather then v4?
[09:19] <strigga> Hmm. After trying a lot now maybe somebody has an idea: I conntect to a Ubuntu 12 Box using XMing and I get to the login screen. After entering my password that instance of the X-Server seems to brashing. I see the desktop, but no unteraction possible.. Any ideas (again) :(
[09:19] <strigga> underaction=useraction
[09:23] <mathfreak> no ideas strigga. I have never tried xming or xdmcp before. :S
[09:26] <jody> Morning all, in trying to setup an external monitor on 12.04 lts I have created the following issue, I have backed up xorg.conf and uninstalled nvidia and the problem still exists so we think it is Gnome related, any assitance would be greatly appreciated as always http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=37438
[09:26] <OLvox> yep
[09:26] <emil_> Is it possible to remove the "has joined" messages in xchat?
[09:29] <RegexRon> So when im in my windows install I can conect to my roommates shared drive just by joining the homegroup (with the homegroup password) Trying in Ubuntu and it wants his username and password..
[09:29] <RegexRon> I cant get that
[09:30] <RegexRon> There must be a way to do it the way windows does?
[09:31] <gordonjcp> it probably wants your username and password on his server
[09:31] <jody> Morning all, in trying to setup an external monitor on 12.04 lts I have created the following issue, I have backed up xorg.conf and uninstalled nvidia and the problem still exists so we think it is Gnome related, any assitance would be greatly appreciated as always http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=37438
[09:31] <jody> Can anyone help at all?
[09:32] <RegexRon> gordonjcp: What?
[09:32] <RegexRon> He doesnt have a server..
[09:32] <gordonjcp> he does if he's serving up files
[09:32] <RegexRon> Its a Shared drive on his computer..
[09:32] <RegexRon> It wants his username and password
[09:33] <strigga> mathfreak: darn.. Will use the VMWare console for now..
[09:33] <RegexRon> gordonjcp: No its built into windows.. its a samba share.. its distributed..
[09:33] <gordonjcp> yes, it's a server
[09:33] <gordonjcp> servers serve files
[09:33] <RegexRon> Anyways, anyone know if there is a way to make linux join the homegroup with the password like windows does?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> yes, put the password in
[09:34] <RegexRon> gordonjcp: You are not helpful.. please don't respond.
[09:34] <RegexRon> There is no where to put a homegroup password.. obviously.
[09:34] <gordonjcp> RegexRon: what's not helpful about telling you how to solve the problem
[09:34] <RegexRon> Just wants username and password
[09:34] <gordonjcp> it's asking you for a password, give it a password
[09:34] <gordonjcp> it's not hard
[09:35] <RegexRon> gordonjcp: Dude, I don't know if English is your second language or what.. But that makes no sense.. I need a username and user password.. I have the Homegroup password not the user password.
[09:36] <RegexRon> This channel is always useless, I will go ask in ##Linux.. where actual help comes from.
[09:36] <gordonjcp> RegexRon: maybe you could also try ##windows
[09:36] <RegexRon> shhh
[09:37] <gordonjcp> !attitude | RegexRon
[09:37] <gordonjcp> RegexRon: furthermore, you're having a problem with Windows, so maybe you should ask in a Windows-related channel
[09:37] <RegexRon> No my client is Linux
[09:37] <RegexRon> It is a windows network not a windows os
[09:38] <RegexRon> Just don't worry about it.
[09:38] <RegexRon> You are not a volunteer, a volunteer contributes to something.
[09:39] <gordonjcp> RegexRon: hang on, is it a Windows 7 machine?
[09:39] <gordonjcp> RegexRon: if it is, it's not going to work
[09:39] <tails2> RegexRon, I'm not too sure on how homegroups actually function; there may be a way for your friend to change his sharing options to use a standard network share with username and password rather than a homegroup, which is probably a Windows-specific construct.
[09:40] <RegexRon> Yes it is, I have seen it work
[09:40] <gordonjcp> RegexRon: homegroups don't, normal SMB does
[09:41] <RegexRon> tails2: It already wants a user name and password.. trying to do it w/o his username and password..
[09:41] <RegexRon> I had it working like this before it is possible
[09:42] <emil_> What is you problem RegexRon: ?
[09:42] <RegexRon> emil_: Its all up there ^
[09:44] <einonm> Hello, How do I view all open windows in 12.04 unity, as Fedora does with Gnome3 on placing the mouse in the top left?
[09:44] <crizis> super-w
[09:44] <crizis> aka win-button w
[09:44] <crizis> you can bind that to some corner with compizconfig utility
[09:45] <einonm> yes, I tried super-w, but the dash icon just expands....do I need to install compiz?
[09:45] <emil_> RegexRon: You want to access a shared folder?
[09:46] <RegexRon> emil_: all the specifics are up there.
[09:46] <RegexRon> Its a bit more complicated than that
[09:46] <einonm> If I hold super, the left hand program panel numbers the icons, but pressing 'w' then just enteres text into whatever program is open
[09:47] <randomDude> when is ubuntu going to have out of the box support for GUI configuration of  ldap/kerberos login
[09:47] <emil_> RegexRon: I'm kinda busy, so I don't have time to read it now.
[09:47] <RegexRon> Ok..
[09:48] <RegexRon> You would have to read it if I retyped it anyways so.. not sure what you are getting at..
[09:49] <Guest88820> Is possible to connect two servers at the same time with Xchat?
[09:49] <emil_> My point is that is that I have to read several messages, If you had written all in one message it would have been easier..
[09:50] <luftikuss> Guest88820: Yes. At leasr two from two different IRC networks.
[09:51] <randomDude> !enter > RegexRon
[09:52] <einonm> crizis: Thanks for the info. I tried it on another desktop with 12.04, and it woks. It doesn't on my laptop. I will fiddle.
[09:53] <crizis> einonm, it likely runs unity2d then. works only in 'real' unity
[09:54] <tailf> hi there. has anyone experienced a 12.04 installation where the "right click" menu and other menus randomly show up "behind" the current window you have open, so they aren't visible?
[09:54] <einonm> crizis: Ah, ok. It's an i7 laptop with both the intel GMA500 and an nvidia graphics card in...must be an issue there
[09:55] <explosion> ку
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> tailf  if it doesnt go away, report a !bug
[09:56] <explosion> Все привет
[09:56] <tailf> MonkeyDust: well it works again when I reboot, but seems to reoccur after a few hours. it's really annoying. :(
[09:57] <idefix> Evolution won't show exteal images.. what could be the problem?
[09:57] <idefix> external *
[09:57] <raman> hi everyone, can anyone help me with installing Second Line in Ubuntu 12.04..
[09:58] <marco__> !list
[09:58] <RegexRon> randomDude: Don't worry about me, don't have that bot message me again, understood?
[10:03] <randomDude> RegexRon: no i don't understand. are you trying to stand over me ?
[10:03] <RegexRon> randomDude: Dude.. just stop worry about what I do.
[10:03] <RegexRon> Gotta love these guys that finally have courage online so they can finally be agressive, as apposed to real life.
[10:04] <randomDude> oh ok
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> guys, keep it on-topic please
[10:04] <raman> hi everyone
[10:05] <raman> can anyone help me how to install Second Life in Ubuntu 12.04..
[10:05] <RegexRon> You need wine
[10:05] <RegexRon> There is no linux port
[10:05] <RegexRon> or a VM, but i wouldnt reccomend that
[10:05] <raman> thanks RegexRon for the info
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> !appdb > raman
[10:06] <einonm> I'm running on an i7 core with i915 driver. I can only get Unity 3D to work, and unity_support_test complains that GLX is not available on my system. How can I get this to run unity 3D?
[10:07] <einonm> ..only get unity 2D to work...
[10:07] <crizis> you need proprietary nvidia driver
[10:07] <einonm> ..and bumblebee? I didn't find that in the software centre
[10:07] <crizis> iirc these intel/nvidia combos needed some tuning to work.. but i don't know, i use only amd/ati gear :)
[10:08] <raman> thanks ubottu
[10:08] <einonm> crizis: ah, ok. So i915 is no good ATM for unity 3D?
[10:08] <BlueWolf> Hi how do I get my Firefox to stop showing certain adverticements that keep appearing?
[10:09] <crizis> well, i have hd3000 on laptop and it works fine
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  there's adblock or flashblock or so
[10:09] <baizon> BlueWolf: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/
[10:12] <einonm> crizis: thanks, I will investigate. Only just started using ubuntu and the software centre seems a bit empty regarding driver modules....?
[10:13] <BlueWolf> 	
[10:13] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: baizon: Thank you much better :D
[10:14] <crizis> einonm, all drivers are in the linux kernel itself
[10:14] <crizis> einonm, proprietary gfx drivers can be installed with 'additional drivers' tool (search with dash for that or check system preferences)
[10:15] <einonm> crizis: I understand this (I maintain a kernel driver). The jockey tool doesn't pick up the nvidia card, and offers no drivers
[10:18] <crizis> einonm, that's likely where you need that.. bumblebee whatever thing :P
[10:20] <einonm> crizis:  not in the software centre either! - hmm... ok, thanks for the advice. Fedora seemed to handle graphics acceleration ok with the i915, ubuntu seems to struggle
[10:20] <md_5> I'm using hd3000 fine right now too
[10:21] <einonm> md_5: crizis: so that's an in-kernel driver or add on module? my config defaults to using the i915
[10:21] <crizis> i have no idea how that nvidia optimus thing works
[10:21] <crizis> i've only read around the internets that ppl have lotsa problems with it :P
[10:21] <md_5> einonm not sure, I'm on a laptop with intel + nvidia, the kernel defaults to i915, then I install bumblbee to get nvidia when I want it
[10:22] <einonm> md_5:  so bumblebee was a self config/make/amke install or via software centre?
[10:22] <md_5> einonm I added the ppa and used apt-get
[10:22] <md_5> no sweat at all
[10:22] <md_5> Just add ppa, sudo apt-get install bumblebee
[10:22] <md_5> reboot
[10:23] <md_5> and bam
[10:23] <ferni> crizis: theres no problem, just disable the optimus thing from bios and select either the intel or nvidia :)
[10:23] <einonm> md_5: sounds greap...what's a PPA? :)
[10:23] <md_5> einonm its an external software repo
[10:23] <crizis> ferni, i don't have it ^^
[10:23] <md_5> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable
[10:23] <ferni> crizis: yeah, but was referring that people have problems.. well they are trying to use it and thats the problem :)
[10:23] <opalepatrick> I use bluefish as text editor cos of syntax highlighting and auto completion. Trouble is the latest version 2.2.3 has gone flaky for me - not time to mess around looking for answers. Anything else out there that is as good?
[10:23] <md_5> sudo apt-get install bumblebee
[10:24] <crizis> einonm, ^^ you might wanna read the above though
[10:24] <md_5> einonm sorry run sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install
[10:24] <md_5> sudo apt-add-repository -y ppa:bumblebee/stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bumblebee
[10:24] <md_5> ^^ one liner
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> einonm  mind: PPAs are not officially supported, use at your own risk
[10:25] <einonm> md_5: brill, thanks. Will do. Shame it means that I can't run CUDA on the nvidia now and do some mining!
[10:25] <einonm> I understand
[10:25] <md_5> I saw this mining thing the other day, no idea what it is
[10:25] <md_5> Some sort of distributed processing for money I guess?
[10:25] <einonm> md_5: FRee money (sort of)....bitcoin.org
[10:26] <digidot> Are there plans for Ubuntu (Unity) to move from Compiz to Mutter?
[10:26] <Xeodus> hey guys - any chance of some 12.04 support?
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> Xeodus  let's hear it
[10:26] <md_5> einonm yeah but I'm not following is Bitcoin primarily online payements?
[10:26] <Xeodus> I'm getting regular x crashes immediately after the update running on a EEEPC 1005HA
[10:27] <Xeodus> didn't happen before
[10:27] <Xeodus> it just goes black and throws me back to the login
[10:27] <Xeodus> about 4/5 times a day
[10:27] <Xeodus> no regular trigger-  but it is while I'm doing stuff
[10:27] <Xeodus> not idle
[10:28] <Xeodus> I've done a clean install
[10:28] <Xeodus> and the problem remains
[10:28] <einonm> basics are, Its generated by solving crypto type problems, and by solving the right one, you get some bitcoins (block of 50). finding the right one is difficult, as there are lots of possibilities - so you need a big number cruncher. GPUs are best at this. Bitcoin is a currency, and can be converted to $, £, whatever
[10:28] <emil_> Xeodus: Is it only when you do specific things?
[10:28] <ferni> digidot: dont know but that could be good thing.. compiz so full of bugs that unity is unusable in daily work, have to go to gnome-shell as it actually works, not just look nice
[10:28] <Xeodus> no - the most recent was closing a guake terminal
[10:29] <Xeodus> but I've had the same thing doing other stuff
[10:29] <Xeodus> like opening chrome
[10:29] <einonm> ..so free money if you can number crunch lots. trouble is, the amount you get back is comparable to the amount you spend on equipment/power for small setups, so most use big rigs
[10:29] <Xeodus> I guess it is things involving the display
[10:29] <rochabk> hello everyone
[10:29] <Xeodus> I don't get it when I'm just typing in a terminal it seems
[10:29] <rochabk> is ubuntu 12.10 beta 1 very unstable?
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> rochabk  yes, support in #ubuntu+1
[10:30] <digidot> ferni: Right. And as far as I know mutter gets much more attention these days
[10:30] <rochabk> oes
[10:30] <rochabk> okes
[10:30] <md_5> einonm what do you mean 'right one'  and I thought bitcoin was a way to share money with people, or is that a different bitcoin
[10:31] <LjL> md_5, einonm: this is all not very on-topic for here
[10:31] <einonm> md_5: yes, but you can also create money using computer processing power - this is known as 'mining'
[10:32] <einonm> md_5:  and like real mining, the more that is done, the harder the remaining bitcoins are to find (and there is a limited amount)
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> einonm  please type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:32] <einonm> LjL: MonkeyDust: understood.
[10:33] <Xeodus> so - any idea how I could start tracking this down?
[10:33] <ShapeShifter499> swap partition or file?  what is faster?
 I run ubuntu server and I'm happy with it because thai hookers are too expensive.
[10:34] <companion> I lol'd
[10:34] <LjL> ...
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> companion  wrong channel, not here
[10:34] <companion> MonkeyDust, its still on toppic
[10:34] <companion> its about ubuntu :)
[10:35] <LjL> companion: not really, it's not. this is Ubuntu *technical support*
[10:35] <companion> LjL, shoulnt it be called #Ubuntu-Suppport or some thing like that?
[10:36] <LjL> companion: that's what topics are for.
[10:36] <companion> LjL, maybe I am too old fashioned with IRC -.-
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> I'm debating having a swap file or partition or both even and weather or not to put it on a sd card that would be connected to the built-in reader slot on my laptop or have it continue to sit on the same drive my system is on
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> what do you guys think?
[10:39] <LjL> ShapeShifter499: a swap partition on an SD card...?
[10:40] <md_5> can be done
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> LjL, sure why not?
[10:40] <LjL> sure, it's also a terrible idea
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> why?
[10:40] <LjL> ShapeShifter499: it's slow *and* it will likely break the card.
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> slow?
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> I thought since its "flash" storage it would be a bit faster than my hdd
[10:41] <md_5> nope
[10:41] <md_5> Stick to hDD
[10:41] <LjL> ShapeShifter499: hardly. it's not an SSD. anyway, the bigger point is flash memory has limited write cycles, and putting swap on it will run out of them fast.
[10:41] <ShapeShifter499> too bad, I have a 16 gig card just doing nothing
[10:42] <ShapeShifter499> LjL, md_5 does the fact its a SDHC make it any faster?
[10:43] <md_5> its a bad idea, full stop
[10:43] <md_5> On my system at least swap isnt even used
[10:43] <ShapeShifter499> ok geez
[10:43] <md_5> Total    Used    Free
[10:43] <md_5> Swap:      8097788          0    8097788
[10:43] <ShapeShifter499> ok well swap partition or file?
[10:43] <md_5> partition
[10:44] <md_5> type 'free' into a terminal and see ohow much you are using right now
[10:44] <LjL> ShapeShifter499: no (although SDHC cards will probably tend to be faster as they're newer)
[10:44] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, why?
[10:44] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, I mean why partition over file?
[10:45] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, and system monitor says I'm using just over 400 mb of my 2.7 swap
[10:45] <md_5> Because if its a file then you are just going over your file system and whatever errors that may  have on read/write
[10:45] <hc_> hello
[10:45]  * hc_ wonders into the room
[10:45] <hc_> do i need a registered nick to talk?
[10:46] <LjL> hc_: not here, not usually
[10:46] <hc_> do i need a registered nick to talk?
[10:46] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, ok so that would mean that the partition could go but that might not effect my main system partition
[10:46] <hc_> opps sorry for repeating myself
[10:46] <ShapeShifter499> right?
[10:46] <hc_> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 but i cant get my video card working :(
[10:46] <hc_> thanks ljl
[10:46] <md_5>  yeah
[10:48]  * hc_ sits quietly while he waits for a response
[10:48]  * hc_ sighs
[10:49] <hc_> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 but i cant get my video card working :( - how may i get the video card working please?
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, my system just random shut-down
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> just rebooted now
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, does ubuntu shut-down if the system is to hot?
[10:51] <md_5> not sure
[10:51] <ShapeShifter499> well its cooler now it did
[10:51]  * hc_ sits quietly...
[10:52]  * hc_ looks around the room
[10:53] <Guest1> hey
[10:53] <hc_> hello guest
[10:53] <md_5> .guest
[10:53] <md_5> hmm nope
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> !details | hc_
[10:54] <hc_> I have a problem with my video care i am running ubuntu 12.04 when i try to enable my second monitor i get laptop displayed but i expect to be able to extend my desktop
[10:54] <hc_> ....card even not care
[10:55] <md_5> Go to settings -> displays and make sure mirror is unchecked @ hc)
[10:55] <md_5> hc_
[10:55] <hc_> its only displaying laptop - its not allowing me to extend to my second monitor
[10:56] <emil_> hc_ what videocard do you have?
[10:56] <hc_> nvidia gtx 480
[10:56] <hc_> i think
[10:56] <emil_> hc_ Have you installed nvidia controlpanel?
[10:57] <hc_> emil_,  i am not sure - i installed ubuntu 12.04 and then did software updater
[10:58] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, I'll try memtest
[10:59] <strk> i can't find a GUI for setting system fonts, what package am I missing ?
[11:00] <emil_> hc_ check this out: http://www.techlw.com/2012/03/install-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204.html
[11:00] <hc_> thank you
[11:01] <hahaha> Why can't I find CLOCK_REALTIME_ALARM in jaunty(9)?
[11:02] <Night-hacks> any good tools for rotating Unity on 64 bit machine ?
[11:04] <hc_> i have to reboot i will be back - thank you again emil
[11:05] <Night-hacks> most tools are 32 bit only
[11:10] <hc_> emil_,  thank you - that worked
[11:10] <emil_> hc_: good!!
[11:11] <hc_> now i need to get a .run file installed =D
[11:11] <emil_> hc_ g2g cya
[11:11] <hc_> thank you again cya
[11:15] <hc_> how do i change to my downloads folder in terminal? i know cd  - i just dont know the path
[11:16] <hc_> nevermind - found it
[11:18] <Squarepy> congratulations hc_
[11:20] <jamster> hello I am using ddrescue to rescue my broken drive. I am not sure what I should do. I used the examples in ddrescue tutorial in the ddrescue manual. not sure if I should copy both of the ext3 file systems individually or should I just do them as a whole.... should I make a partition for it or do an  iso or maybe both iso for the backup and the hard drive partition one to be the one I try and fix...
[11:20] <jamster> using parted magic to rescue my ubuntu system
[11:20] <pgdac12> How to password protect my single user mode if i do init=/bin/bash at kernel line at grub screen.Don't want to use grub password only want to block single usermode if possible .Thanks !
[11:22] <taowa> What is the channel for loco
[11:22] <PeterGriffin> how to find out if mysql server is started or stopped and how should I stop it?
[11:22] <hc_> thanks Squarepy
[11:23] <pgdac12> Any One Please !
[11:24] <jamster> going to pastebin my issue
[11:25] <jamster> be back
[11:25] <hc_> PeterGriffin, in terminal - type "service -- status-all"
[11:25] <hc_> but without the rabbit ears
[11:25] <hc_> i dont know sorry pgdac
[11:25] <PeterGriffin> with sudo?
[11:25] <hc_> i did it without sudo
[11:25] <hc_> you could try it with sudo - it wont hurt
[11:26] <yeats> !loco | taowa
[11:27] <nhanbvn483> I can't make Wine run at widescreen resolution, can anyone help me?
[11:27] <PeterGriffin> I got some +, - and ?-s.
[11:27] <PeterGriffin> before thye service name
[11:27] <faLUCE> hi. is it possible to install (x/k/l)ubuntu on zelig pad 700 ?
[11:27] <PeterGriffin> before mysql is [ ? ]. What dows it mean
[11:28] <hc_> i am not 100% sure what the +, - or ? is - i think its "on" "off" "unknown"
[11:28] <jamster> loco ubuntu = crazy ubuntu?
[11:28] <hc_> there is another command i just found - type in terminal "sudo ps -A"
[11:29] <pgdac12> !init 1
[11:31] <nhanbvn483> can anyone help me with a Wine resolution issue?
[11:32] <hc_> im sorry PeterGriffin  i do not know what it means
[11:34] <PeterGriffin> hc_: I'll check what it means in google. Thank you.
[11:34] <bazhang> nhandler, check the appdb and /join #winehq
[11:34] <bazhang> whoops nhandler sorry
[11:38] <Guest42020> how to install flashplayer in firefox without ubuntu software center?
[11:39] <bazhang> Guest42020, either command line, or synaptic package manager
[11:42] <Leidenfrost> Hello guys. Is there a way to install KDE without semantic desktop?
[11:44] <PeterGriffin> Guest42020: Try this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-to-install-flash-player-for-firefox/
[11:44] <Leidenfrost> I'm planning to switch from gentoo. And everything is fine, except for my KDE. It is very tweaked to weight far less than a default installation. I want to know if I can use KDE without utilities like nepomuk that fill my memory.
[11:45] <plonsk> hallo
[11:45] <plonsk> how are you dowing
[11:46] <plonsk> fack jour pet
[11:46] <plonsk> kom dan vegget
[11:46] <plonsk> klappen
[11:46] <plonsk> hooomo
[11:46] <plonsk> floodboot wat een gay naam
[11:47] <bkc_> !nl | plonsk
[11:47] <tomreyn> is there a utility/software which ensures you never have more than the latest one or two linux images installed?
[11:48] <bkc_> tomreyn: rm && grub-update ?
[11:48] <tomreyn> bkc_: that's something you can do once, and a basis for a script, but not a script in itself
[11:48] <MikeWorth> my brother has asked me to help him upgrade from lucit to precise; it fails due to a being unable to resolve dependanies. I think this is because he had a dropbox repository installed, i tried removing this to no avail. what do i try now?
[11:49] <yeats> Leidenfrost: KDE is packaged in several different ways - kubuntu-desktop is the full-blown Ubuntu implementation, but there are other options: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/meta-kde
[11:49] <yeats> Leidenfrost: I don't know the specific answer to your question though
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:50] <tomreyn> this laptop is not mine, i have it here for two hours and am supposed to 'tune it' a little. and it's got 10 kernel images installed, and dkms runs for every single image whenever you install/remove a kernel package
[11:50] <Nordom> I am thinking clean install ubuntu over my win7 is this wise? Or is better to duel boot?
[11:50] <Leidenfrost> yeats: That was a pretty good answer.
[11:50] <yeats> Leidenfrost: :-D
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Nordom  dual boot, in case you don't like ubuntu or need win7
[11:51] <bkc_> tomreyn: tomreyn "ls /boot | grep linuz | sort -r" and then take the 2 first, and delete the rest :)
[11:51] <bkc_> skip the 2 first *
[11:51] <bkc_> and then grub-update
[11:51] <ramp> i mercenari 2
[11:51] <tomreyn> bkc_: i'm talking about packages, though, not just the images
[11:51] <Nordom> I heard that clean install makes ubuntu faster? should I make a new partion for it or could I install it to same partion as windows? or should I use that install unbuntu from windows thingy?
[11:52] <bkc_> afaik they aren't removed on update, so they are no packages for them :/
[11:52] <subz3r0> Nordom, do not use "wubi"
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> Nordom  clean install on its own partition
[11:52] <tomreyn> bkc_: i can write that script, but looking for an existing one , if any. this would seem like a common need.
[11:52] <bkc_> tomreyn: I always used to remove them manually...
[11:52] <Nordom> thats what I have heard subz3r0, not to use wubi
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> subz3r0  do not even *mention* wubi ;)
[11:52] <subz3r0> Wubi will be obsolete asap
[11:52] <pgdac12> How to password protect my single user mode if i do init=/bin/bash at kernel line at grub screen.Don't want to use grub password only want to block single usermode if possible .Thanks !
[11:52] <subz3r0> MonkeyDust, you got me ;)
[11:52] <Nordom> how much is a good size for a ubuntu partion?
[11:53] <yeats> Nordom: most of what you're asking is about preference - if you want to still use Windows, then dual boot is what you probably want
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> !partition > Nordom
[11:53] <pgdac12> Nordom:  Depends upon your use ,  i am using almost 100g
[11:53] <Leidenfrost> asd > Leidenfrost
[11:53] <Leidenfrost> I thought there was something like streaming operators in irc lolo
[11:54] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: ubottu-specific...
[11:54] <subz3r0> Nordom, depends on your needs. I would make a partition for everything i need. Like 400mb for /boot, 10 gigs for /, RAM = /swap(if you want to suspend), 10+gigs for /home
[11:54] <yeats> Leidenfrost: prefix a ! to your command (or better yet /msg ubottu with your query)
[11:55] <bkc_> !next
[11:55] <bkc_> -.-
[11:55] <bkc_> !learn
[11:55] <bkc_> -.-
[11:55] <Leidenfrost> !learn > Leidenfrost
[11:55] <Nordom> well I got 1tera for my OS needs, and to behonest I really dont want to partion... feel like taking all my saved game data and wipe everything... just to try something new... not wise I know, but it looks like must games that I thought could ONLY run in windows work on linux with a little bit support required.... but before I do anything rash how fast does wine get updated? Like if steam updated
[11:55] <Nordom> some game how long is the delay usually if its not normally supported by linux?
[11:55] <pgdac12> No ONe !
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> bkc_  type /msg ubottu !something and continue in ubottu 's screen
[11:56] <bkc_> MonkeyDust: thank you ^^
[11:56] <bkc_> Nordom: I'd suggest VirtualBox then :)
[11:57] <adib> hey, im running ubuntu 12.04 on an macbook 8.1 mid 2011, it runs fine but when i connect an additional screen the resulution of the screen is ffed up, anyone knows which drivers i need to get?
[11:57] <Nordom> bkc_ what is that?
[11:57] <bkc_> VirtualMachine
[11:57] <LorSamPau_w> !VirtualBox
[11:57] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: I guess you recommend to install ubuntu in a small vm.
[11:57] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: indeed, or a huge one :)
[11:57] <subz3r0> bkc_, sorry to tell, but thats crap.... what's about 3d in a virtualbox? mhh?
[11:58] <subz3r0> indeed, it does not work properly
[11:58] <Leidenfrost> I was thinking the same.
[11:58] <Leidenfrost> If it even works...
[11:58] <subz3r0> it sounds like he wants a fast system. virtualizazion != fast
[11:58] <subz3r0> -z+t
[11:58] <Leidenfrost> However, virtualization is very fast with modern machines.
[11:59] <Leidenfrost> 3D is the only thing that falls off.
[11:59] <LorSamPau_w> yeap
[11:59] <subz3r0> no cuda, no 3d, no games no nothing
[11:59] <subz3r0> thats the deal of virtualization
[11:59] <Leidenfrost> Except that you are smart enough to get Xen running
[11:59] <adib> im running ubuntu 12.04 on an macbook 8.1 mid 2011, it runs fine but when i connect an additional screen the resulution of the screen is ffed up, anyone knows which drivers i need to get?
[12:00] <bkc_> like wubi *should* work -.-
[12:00] <Leidenfrost> And a cool motherboard that supports IOMMU. Then you can share the video card on the guest system :)
[12:00] <bkc_> subz3r0: does exist :)
[12:00] <bkc_> subz3r0: I have full access to my gfx-card and all it's capabilities from my VMs :)
[12:00] <bkc_> and if you wanna do a "real" installation, you can just dd the image to a partition and it "Just Works(TM)" ^^
[12:00] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: define "all it's capabilities".
[12:00] <bkc_> subz3r0: I have cuda, and D3D in windows-guest :/
[12:00] <subz3r0> bkc_, so how tell us how that works? Like running CUDA in a vm. go for it
[12:00] <bkc_> VirtualGL and Wine's D3D-wrapper...
[12:01] <bkc_> Havn't tried cuda thou... not really interested in vendor-specific garbage...
[12:01] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: And what games?
[12:02] <bkc_> but! opencl works as intended... and it's an nvidia-card, so it has to emulate opencl ontop of cuda... hence cuda is working nicely
[12:02] <subz3r0> its a fact, that 3d DOES NOT work PROPERLY in a vm. even with VMWARE it doesnt. and with virtual box ofc NOT
[12:02] <bkc_> !virtualg
[12:02] <bkc_> !virtualgl
[12:02] <solofight> People - i ran out of options to check - I am using 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 which is not being supported anymore - when i try to upgrade it, its giving me this kind of error Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.177 80] all over the place
[12:02] <solofight> i thought it might be the firewall - so tried pinging the ip which works and tried wget the url which downloads the index.html
[12:03] <solofight> now i dont know what to do - need inputs - please pitch in
[12:03] <subz3r0> anyway... the advice does not fit. if any1 wants to get a nice and working system for day to day, its not recommend to give the advice to virtualize
[12:03] <subz3r0> thats my opinion
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> howto autoremove torrents after they finished in transmission?
[12:04] <Leidenfrost> And weird enough, there's a psychological overhead in virtualizing. If you have to start vbox and start the vm, you end just using the host system.
[12:04] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, ratio 0 uploading
[12:04] <subz3r0> Leidenfrost, another good point as u said...
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks:lemme try that tnx
[12:04] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: not really... snatshots...
[12:05] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: It doesn't save you from loading the host OS and the snapshot itslef
[12:05] <subz3r0> bkc_, youre more confusing than helpin
[12:05] <Leidenfrost> solofight: The fastest guess is to try a mirror.
[12:05] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: host-os loading is there anyways... and a snapshot loads in a few seconds on a good enough computer to do anything 3d-related anyways...
[12:06] <bkc_> subz3r0: ofc
[12:06] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: Loading a guest ubuntu for 3D isn't worth.
[12:06] <subz3r0> bkc_, so why give this advice to a person who wants to have a proper working system?
[12:07] <Leidenfrost> And a guest windows... err
[12:08] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: I have to use windows daily for work and stuff that don't work in wine...
[12:08] <subz3r0> i think the advice should fit to the persons needs. so your advice is just overrun
[12:08] <solofight> Leidenfrost: how to ?
[12:09] <subz3r0> anyway.. back to topic :)
[12:09] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: and I decided to virtualize it because I don't want to dualboot... -.-
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: tnx
[12:09] <gmagno> hello, you guys have any idea why beep or tput bel do not yield any sound?
[12:09] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I'm sleepy, so I'm not in the mood to give verbose explanations. You just have to replace the urls in sources.list with working ones.
[12:09] <gmagno> I'm on a Xubuntu 12.04 machine
[12:10] <adib> hmm
[12:10] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: 1) Wine on ubuntu virtualized from windows? 2) I've tried VMs since a long time ago. And 3D didn't work. Never.
[12:10] <subz3r0> Leidenfrost, keep your energy ;)
[12:11] <Leidenfrost> subz3r0: lol
[12:12] <gmagno> adib, for some reason none of the terminal emulators I use reproduce any kind of beep sound. FOr instance calling "beep" or "tput bel" should force the speaker to make a sound, but that is not working
[12:12] <Leidenfrost> gmagno: sudo modprobe pcspkr
[12:13] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: ArchLinux -> VM[Windows]/Wine
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> gmagno  try this play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[12:13] <bkc_> actually
[12:13] <bkc_> and I only use the D3D-part of wine in the virtualized Windows...
[12:13] <solofight> Leidenfrost: how do i know its working or not ? if you say by checking them in the browser or wget - even the present URL which are failing in upgrade process are working when i put in browser or wget it downloads a file called index.html
[12:14] <bkc_> !repository
[12:14] <bkc_> solofight: ^
[12:14] <Leidenfrost> solofight: An ubuntu repository is composed by an entire directory structure and many files. My guess is to test aptitude update or apt-get update to see is they do work.
[12:14] <gmagno> Leidenfrost, before isntalling that kernel module I did what MonkeyDust said, and that does what it should,I can hear all the sounds in that directory
[12:15] <gmagno> should I install pcspkr now?=
[12:15] <Leidenfrost> no need to install it. Is a kernel module and comes with linux-image
[12:15] <bkc_> gmagno: pcspkr is for the thing in your computer that goes *bliip*
[12:15] <gmagno> bkc_, bliip? What does that mean?
[12:16] <bkc_> irritating noise*
[12:16] <gmagno> hey, just installed that kernel module, beep is working now :)
[12:16] <Leidenfrost> :)
[12:16] <gmagno> bkc_, that irritating noise is the speaker sound, I love that sound heheh
[12:16] <bkc_> gmagno: only good for 1 thing, irc-notification ^^
[12:16] <solofight> Leidenfrost: apt-get update gets completed without any errors
[12:16] <gmagno> I still remember when the games I played made use of the speaker only
[12:17] <gmagno> bkc_, that's exacly why I need it
[12:17] <Leidenfrost> solofight: Then can I guess your issue is solved?
[12:17] <bkc_> ooh :3
[12:17] <gmagno> is there any reason for that module being blacklisted?
[12:17] <solofight> Leidenfrost: noo - apt-get update has been working from the beginning itself - its the upgrade is the one which fails
[12:17] <adib> anyone knows how to fix the resolution of an external monitor on ubuntu 12.04 running on an 8.1 macbook?
[12:17] <solofight> with that error
[12:18] <bkc_> gmagno: people find it annoying?
[12:18] <Leidenfrost> solofight: have you tried apt-get upgrade?
[12:18] <Leidenfrost> solofight: with the new mirror
[12:18] <gmagno> bkc_, :D
[12:18] <bkc_> !xrandr | adib
[12:18] <bkc_> dual screen o.O
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> adib  arandr is a gui for xrandr
[12:18] <lipska> Ubuntu Linux 12.04 64 bit
[12:18] <solofight> Leidenfrost: yes - infact the error i have posted is from apt-get upgrade
[12:19] <lipska> I'm working on some x86_32 assembler and I need the 32 bit version of libc.so
[12:19] <Leidenfrost> solofight: please post an entire pastebin about the error
[12:19] <lipska> I can run the assembler with the 32 bit switch ok
[12:19] <lipska> as --32 -g foo.asm -o foo.o
[12:20] <lipska> but when I try to link with the only available libc.so I can find at
[12:20] <lipska> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so obviously the linker barfs
[12:20] <gmagno> hmm, interesting, 'tput bel' still does no sound at all, which means centerim is also not gonna notify me of incoming new messages, which means I still have a problem... Any idea why 'tput bel' does not work? Btw, 'tput flash' does what it should do.
[12:20] <lipska> Searching the web I found that I could install the 32 bit libs
[12:20] <lipska> by doing apt-get install ia32-libs
[12:20] <lipska> However there is still no libc.so or anything beginning with that string anywhere on my system.
[12:21] <lipska> I have to admit that I am stumped.
[12:21] <lipska> any ideas ?
[12:21] <me13> who wants to help me
[12:22] <compdoc> me! me!
[12:22] <Harlin> hmm is there a music player that can play internet radio stations and records streams without crashing ?  (have tried guayadeque and rhytmbox and not happy)
[12:22] <gmagno> :D lol
[12:22] <faLUCE>  hi. Is it possible to install (k/l/x)ubuntu on a zelig pad 700 ?
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> Harlin  guayadeque can, i did
[12:22] <faLUCE> MonkeyDust: ?
[12:22] <me13> convert youtube flash to flac
[12:22] <Harlin> guayadeque's recordings sound like a very slow lp with reverberation and crashes frequently.
[12:23] <Harlin> this is on 12.04
[12:23] <adib> hmm
[12:23] <adib> both my screens seem to turn black if i change their position in either system or using arandr
[12:26] <Leidenfrost> adib: try using your vendor's utility
[12:26] <adib> as in trough system settings? Leidenfrost
[12:27] <Leidenfrost> adib: dunno if they integrate into system settings. I usually call it like any other application. I'm talking about nvidia-settings and catalyst control center
[12:27] <Harlin> guayadeque's recordings sound like a very slow lp with reverberation and crashes frequently.
[12:27] <Harlin> hmm is there a music player that can play internet radio stations and records streams without crashing ?  (have tried guayadeque and rhytmbox and not happy)
[12:27] <adib> im on an macbook
[12:28] <mote> Hi. Question: i just put a new WiFi card in my desktop. AR9227, should be covered by the ath9k driver. lspci see's it. but networkmanager don't? what to do?
[12:28] <Leidenfrost> adib: You should have an nvidia then. Try using nvidia-settings.
[12:29] <adib> nope
[12:29] <MrBushido> is there any way to stop fullscreen flash video (e.g. youtube) returning to website mode if the window loses focus? I often watch videos on my secondary monitor while doing other stuff on my primary screen, but at the moment that results in it cancelling the fullscreen
[12:30] <adib> i think it is intell
[12:30] <krababbel> MrBushido: I'd say that is not really possible, but you could pop out the youtube video to a full screen window
[12:31] <MrBushido> meh, windows does it :'<
[12:31] <sebas_> Where in ccsm can I find the option: mouse to left corner of screen and get a grid of all progs that are running?
[12:31] <solofight> Leidenfrost: http://pastebin.com/RXeUbHar
[12:32] <solofight> and continues
[12:32] <solofight> i put Ctrl+c
[12:32] <BluesKaj> MrBushido, what about virtual desktops
[12:33] <mote> Hi. Question: i just put a new WiFi card (AR9227) in my desktop, should be covered by the ath9k driver. lspci see's it. but networkmanager don't? what to do?
[12:34] <saby> hello
[12:34] <MrBushido> that sounds like a workaround rather than a solution. any idea what will cause it? i'd rather send a feature request than try and fix it myself ^_^
[12:34] <MrBushido> i'm guessing its either adobe or xfce's issue
[12:34] <C10H8N4O2> anyone install jira on ubuntu server successfully?
[12:37] <bbk> http://masafportal.com/post/view-5896
[12:39] <phil_> bonjour
[12:39] <Leidenfrost> solofight: That's purely a network error.
[12:39] <bbk> http://masafportal.com/post/view-5896
[12:42] <Leidenfrost> solofight: That could be your firewall or the server. If you are sure the server works fine, then you'll have to deal with your firewall
[12:42] <solofight> Leidenfrost: Lets take the first error - Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.177 80]
[12:43] <solofight> here if i open the url  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu it should have a directory maverick-updates inside which there should be a directory called main correct
[12:44] <Leidenfrost> solofight: We're talking about servers, aren't int?
[12:44] <solofight> and then inside that it should have amd64 ....etc
[12:44] <solofight> Leidenfrost: yes
[12:44] <solofight> Leidenfrost: how do i verify that its the problem with firewall ?
[12:44] <JonDollt> .
[12:45] <solofight> Leidenfrost: i need to prove it to the IT team - if i show this message its not enough for him
[12:45] <solofight> he isa saying i am in the elevated internet group
[12:46] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I guess they aren't helpful enough to say "Hey can you lend me a hand? I think this is a network error."
[12:47] <randomDude> I'm trying to share the ethernet connection on my laptop to my phone via the laptops wifi... 1) turn on wifi [done] 2) click 'use as hotspot' [done] 3) realise i don't know the wifi password [fail] 4) attempt to click options button.... [can't]... << options button is greyed out
[12:47] <Leidenfrost> solofight: There's a risky thing you can do. Replace everything "maverick" with "natty", do apt-get update and try apt-getting something big (So you can cancel before it starts installing anything)
[12:49] <Leidenfrost> solofight: The point in here is to see if the distro version is causing problems, but don't installing anything just to be safe.
[12:49] <jayeshahir> can anyone know how to install bt5 menu in ubuntu 12.04??
[12:50] <solofight> Leidenfrost: nice - try it now
[12:50] <jayeshahir> can anyone know how to install bt5 menu in ubuntu 12.04??
[12:51] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I did way nastier things in my desk. Like upgrading from debian potato to squeeze, and downgrading a debian wheezy to squeeze.
[12:52] <KakamiOkatsu> Ciao a tutti! Come si chiama il canale per gli sviluppatori?
[12:52] <Pici> !it | KakamiOkatsu
[12:54] <regis_> hello
[12:54] <zippoLibero> all italians here
[12:55] <zippoLibero> I'm italian too
[12:55] <zippoLibero> lol
[12:55] <regis_> good night.
[12:55] <solofight> Leidenfrost: tell me something big ? not able to think of one
[12:56] <Leidenfrost> solofight: xonotic?
[12:56] <solofight> ok will try and let you know now
[12:56] <Leidenfrost> wait
[12:56] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ?
[12:57] <Leidenfrost> solofight: there's a "--download-only" option in apt-get
[12:57] <Leidenfrost> -d, --download-only Download only; package files are only retrieved, not unpacked or installed.
[12:58] <Leidenfrost> solofight: you can forget about "the big package". Just use apt-get -d and it will limit itself to download.
[12:59] <L3top> There is also --simulate and --dry-run.
[13:00] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ok will try that apt-get -d emacs
[13:00] <Leidenfrost> solofight: tell me if the download works
[13:00] <solofight> Leidenfrost: sure - right now apt-get update is still goingon
[13:00] <solofight> will try and let you know
[13:02] <detrate> everyday for the past 2 weeks, I've booted up and it's a gamble as to whether both my monitors will be recognized
[13:02] <detrate> I've booted into an old version of Ubuntu, no problems
[13:02] <detrate> it has to do with a recent update
[13:02] <detrate> and some sort of issue with my xorg.conf... but I usually have to battle with it for a good 30 minutes, it's like the solution never seems the same
[13:02] <detrate> unplug my monitor, plug it back in, remove my xorg.conf, reconfigure
[13:03] <detrate> Anyone else experiencing this annoyance?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> detrate  if all else fails, report a !bug
[13:11] <Azzle-Dazzle> Guys ( i think) since installing the new Gnome (3.6 i believe) my internet browsers font has changed and when i change it in the browsers settings it makes no difference. Any advice on this ?
[13:11] <detrate> dammit, I want to punch babies. Dual monitors have *just worked* since 8.04 and now "PRECISE" screws it up
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> detrate: did you upgrade, or is it a clean install?
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> detrate  try arandr
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[13:12] <Leidenfrost> detrate: Punching babies is bad.
[13:12] <Azzle-Dazzle> just one sec ill do it now
[13:12] <detrate> arandr?
[13:12] <detrate> it's a clean install
[13:12] <detrate> it was working for a while
[13:12] <detrate> but a recent upgrade has broken it
[13:12] <zub> Hi. I'm trying to rebuild a module with distro kernel, but I can't load the result because of symbol version mismatch. I'm using the same procedure as I have been using before. But with linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic it doesn't work. Could it be the Module.symvers in linux-headers-3.2.0-30-generic is wrong?
[13:13] <detrate> I've tried the swat-x nvidia drivers but they didn't help
[13:13] <Azzle-Dazzle> it says precise ?
[13:13] <detrate> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: that comes with gnome3 by default, so you don't need to manually install Gnome yourself
[13:13] <blubee> guys i have a nvidia gt 9600m in my laptop, last time i used ubuntu and checked there were usually drivers listed in the additional drivers such as nvidia-current, but now all i see is NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library.... is that the newest drivers to use with nvidia cards now?
[13:13] <zub> I'm basically doing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190787/ Not sure it's 100% correct, but at least it had worked in the past
[13:14] <detrate> blubee: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat
[13:14] <Azzle-Dazzle> I installed it from software manager it said it wasnt already installed so i added it, How could this affect the browser font tho ?
[13:14] <detrate> those are the latest
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> blubee: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: does it affect all web browsers?
[13:15]  * MonkeyDust glad he has intel and not nvidia
[13:15] <Azzle-Dazzle> well I only use chrome, Ill try another one now ActionParsnip :)
[13:15]  * ActionParsnip is glad he has nvidia, not intel :)
[13:15] <Leidenfrost> intel works fine.
[13:15] <blubee> ActionParsnip: thanks for that
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> blubee: my 6150 needs that so I can play urban terror, the 295 in the official repos makes it unplayable
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: did you have Xubuntu or Lubuntu installed initially by any chance?
[13:17] <Azzle-Dazzle> ActionParsnip it is normal in Konqueror and ive always had ubuntu 12.04
[13:17] <simolokid> good afternoon
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: ahh Kubuntu
[13:17] <Azzle-Dazzle> i just saw a new version of gnome online so i downloaded it
[13:17] <simolokid> anyone that has some experience with mdadm? ;o or am i in the wrong channel for that
[13:18] <blubee> ok im going down for a reboot, thanks again ActionParsnip !
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: tried renaming ~/.google-chrome  then reruning the browser to get default configs
[13:18] <Azzle-Dazzle> how do i do that ? Im a ubuntu n00b :(
[13:19] <simolokid> mv ~/.google-chrome ~/.google-chrome_test ?
[13:19] <solofight> Leidenfrost: http://pastebin.com/yZJkwTRF
[13:19] <Leidenfrost> simolokid: You could try #gentoo, #arch or any other distro with mdadm by default. Or just wait for an advanced user :)
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: mv ~/.config/google-chrome ~/.config/google-chrome_old    then cold launch the browser
[13:20] <Leidenfrost> solofight: That's a great step forward.
[13:20] <Leidenfrost> solofight: but for some reasong the hashes mismatch.
[13:21] <Leidenfrost> solofight: can you send me a pastebin of your sources.list?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> solofight: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[13:22] <Azzle-Dazzle> No such file or directory ActionParsnip ? is it because its called Chromium for ubuntu and not google chrome ?
[13:22] <christopherwortm> http://www.codeweavers.com/flockthevote/ pledge and make this awesome software free!
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: are you sure it's not chromium and not chrome?
[13:23] <Azzle-Dazzle> yes its chromium, NOT google chrome (i thought they where the same ?)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: there is a difference
[13:23] <WLU>  okular keeps on crashing when I try to configure it. I just need to use emacs as the editor. Anyay to just write this up in okularrc as opposed to use the GUI interface for configuring okular
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: if you look in the ~/.config   folder you will find a config folder for the browser, rename it
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: it may be in the home dir or ~/.config somewhere
[13:24] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: I shouldn't recommend running strange executables (far worse being hosted on something like dropbox).
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: thats my dropbox
[13:24] <solofight> Leidenfrost: http://pastebin.com/nuWLFxRV
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: its a script basically running the commands from the Ubuntu synaptic fix package commands
[13:25] <vantage|work> can anyone please help me with these bash messages after logging in on an upgraded Ubuntu 12.04 server (from 10.04) ?  ->  http://pastebin.com/0tY8AguP
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: check step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: thats ALL it is
[13:25] <Odisha1> hello..
[13:26] <Odisha1> i have downloaded ubuntu-12.04-dvd-i386.iso
[13:26] <Odisha1> how to install it in windows 7
[13:26] <dr_willis> !wubi | Odisha1
[13:26] <LjL> Odisha1: you don't install it "in" Windows. Ubuntu is a separate operating system.
[13:26] <dr_willis> Odisha1:  better to boot the disk and do a dual boot setup
[13:26] <Kladd> #disconnect
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Odisha1: sure, MD5 test it and then mount the ISO with magicdisk or daemontools, you can then run the installer from the ISO and use wubi
[13:26] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: I see. It's just we're talking about servers. So it's appropiate to be a little paranoid about these things :)
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: its all good, don't worry
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: as an ubuntu member I'm not going to damage user systems
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Odisha1: seems weird to use the DVD image when you are just going to use wubi...
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> vantage|work: sounds like you have added things to your ~/.bashrc file
[13:29] <vantage|work> ActionParsnip: hmm good point, thanks, haven't done any manual upgrading though. I'll have a look at it right now :)
[13:29] <me13> best way to rip youtube to flac or atleast mp3?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> vantage|work: check for the word 'complete'
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> me13: there is no single best way to do anything
[13:29] <dr_willis> me13:  theres numerous youtube downloader extensions for firefox that can do that
[13:30] <solofight> ActionParsnip: should i change back the natty to maverick or do this wget with the same natty ?
[13:30] <me13> they all suck and usually require payment for better encoding rates
[13:30] <me13> I want free
[13:30] <dr_willis> converting to flac wont gain you much
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> me13  'best' depends (among others) on how skilled you ar
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> e
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> me13: why not just use: http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
[13:30] <dr_willis> me13:  the 2 i use all the time are tottaly free...
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> me13: that will give an MP3 from a youtube link...
[13:30] <me13> in high quality?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> me13: try it, sounds fine to me, sure it will to you too
[13:30] <dr_willis> upconvertig to a higher quality is sort of pointless...
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: very :)
[13:31] <me13> I dnt want to upconvert
[13:31] <me13> some songs on yotube have really high quality
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> me13: try the site, see what you get
[13:31] <me13> id like to capture that if possible
[13:31] <me13> not be ok with any sort of ceiling
[13:31] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: Hey, I'm going to bed. Can you help solofight for me? Here's the initial msg with the problem: (09:02:51 AM) solofight: People - i ran out of options to check - I am using 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 which is not being supported anymore - when i try to upgrade it, its giving me this kind of error Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.177 80] all over the place
[13:31] <hateball> me13: youtube-dl and ffmpeg is what I use
[13:32] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: I suggested him to change his sources.list from maverick to natty to see if there are issues concerning his old version.
[13:33] <me13> yeah 128kbps is gay
[13:33] <me13> I mix music live
[13:33] <fbernier> so gay people are also 128kbps?
[13:33] <hateball> !language
[13:33] <me13> maybe
[13:34] <MrBushido> i'm surprised how well lived mp3 is compared to lossless formats
[13:34] <MrBushido> and big hard drives
[13:34] <Guest3894> Has any one managed to install 12.10 with disk encryption? When I tick the disk encryption box in the installer, I can't get past the next screen titled "Choose a security key". There are no dialog boxes to enter a key, and the Next button is not accessible.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: is he using maverick now?
[13:34] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> Guest3894  #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: oh jeses
[13:34] <Guest3894> MonkeyDust: oh, sorry
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> me13: try the site, you may like it. If you are ripping audio from youtube I doubt it will be a decent quality
[13:34] <solofight> Leidenfrost: thank you for all your efforts - have a goo dnight sleep
[13:34] <rango> this message come from ubuntu 12.10 beta 1
[13:35] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: Yes, it get's complicated given these ancient versions.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> rango: #ubuntu+1 for Quantal please
[13:35] <Leidenfrost> solofight: ty :)
[13:35] <me13> bull
[13:35] <solofight> Leidenfrost: last question -
[13:35] <me13> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRFqjjwP-CI   in 720p sounds amazing
[13:35] <Leidenfrost> solofight: shoot
[13:35] <me13> specially if you have decent headphones
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> me13: 720p is video quality, not audio quality
[13:35] <rango> why the font looks so bad under ubuntu browser?
[13:35] <dr_willis> me13:  i think this is getting beyond Ubuntu support...
[13:35] <Toph2> when i load an mp3 in Rythmbox and no longer want to listen to it, if I x out rythmnbox, the sound continues and I can't find where to shut it down
[13:36] <solofight> Leidenfrost: the command ActionParsnip gave wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage should i do with the natty or maverick ?
[13:36] <me13> the higher you raise the video quality the better the audio quality
[13:36] <solofight> i guess he is suggesting the hash sum error which i got for natty
[13:36] <solofight> ?
[13:36] <dr_willis> Toph2:  top right volume icon, ch3eck that its still playing
[13:36] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ^
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> me13  #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[13:36] <Azzle-Dazzle> ActionParsnip I found the folder :) sorry it took so long, What now ? just rename it ?
[13:36] <dr_willis> me13:  i can have high quality video with no audio. :) but yes. this is now OT.
[13:37] <solofight> You said good progress when i got that error with natty - does that mean the server is not the problem but the chances are with firewall ?
[13:37] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ^
[13:37] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I'm alive lol
[13:37] <Toph2> dr_willis,,, yes, it is still playing and I can't turn it off other than mute
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: yea just give it a different name and rerun the app to get new profile
[13:37] <dr_willis> theres a play/pause button in the volume conrol menu i belive.
[13:37] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:38] <solofight> Leidenfrost: sorry - missed to direct the sentences to you by specifying name - so did that with a ^
[13:38] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I guess that was a command to fix the hash mismatch of "packages" file. So it should make the "natty" version of sources.list work. But I'm not that advanced into ubuntu (or debian, btw) administration, so I'm not sure.
[13:38] <konaya> I have a lot of traffic going through one of my network interfaces which doesn't make sense. Firstly, it's down. Secondly, it's approx. 500GB/min, which is a bit over capacity.
[13:38] <konaya> What could be the problem?
[13:38] <detrate> 4 reboots later and it just worked...
[13:38] <detrate> doesn't make sense
[13:38] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ok thanks - what about you saying great progress ?
[13:38] <solofight> problem with firewall and not server is it ?
[13:39] <Azzle-Dazzle> Its still the same :( thats weird aint it, Maybe i should just use a different browser ?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: are there bugs reported?
[13:40] <vantage|work> one nasty thing, if you want to remove ubuntu afterwards and keep windows. It messes up the bootsector
[13:40] <Leidenfrost> solofight: Changing the sources.list to natty made the packages download, but generate a hash mismatch. That means the repository is somewhat broken, yet there are no network problems. Take in account that these ancient version get abandoned easily, making all the work harder.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: you can rename the old profile back if you want
[13:40] <jarrad> Who in their right mind would want to reinstall windows :P
[13:41] <OerHeks> vantage|work, just boot from your windows dvd, and repair the MBR.
[13:41] <vantage|work> ActionParsnip: almost there, removed one message already. Looking to find the other one
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: delete the standing profile as its not much use to you
[13:41] <Azzle-Dazzle> not that I know of ActionParsnip and it only affects chrome, The rest of the system is how ive selected it to be.
[13:41] <Azzle-Dazzle> ok ill give it a try now
[13:41] <vantage|work> OerHeks: indeed :) but imagine people who don't know that, it's pure panick
[13:41] <vantage|work> panic*
[13:41] <solofight> Leidenfrost: so how do i proceed ? can you give me a brief ? with which i can google read and execute ?
[13:41] <OerHeks> vantage|work, maybe, maybe not.
[13:42] <Azzle-Dazzle> where would I find this standing profile ? i cant see it inside either chrome folder
[13:43] <hatman15> hello
[13:43] <hatman15> I'm planning on installing Win7 and some Linux distro (maybe ubuntu)
[13:43] <Leidenfrost> solofight: No. It's something tricky and that's as far as I can go. Given the same situation, I'd went bananas already and just force-upgraded everything to precise.
[13:44]  * vantage|work wonders where the sneaky little line of code is causing the bash message at login, bashrc is done, where's the other one? here kitty kitty
[13:44] <hatman15> Which one shall I install first? Win 7 or ubuntu?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: its the one you renamed
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> hatman15  first win, then lin
[13:44] <vman> Yep
[13:44] <solofight> Leidenfrost: oh you can force upgrade ! will read about it
[13:44] <hatman15> MonkeyDust: explain
[13:44] <Azzle-Dazzle> oooh I deleted it already lol
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> hatman15  windows "destroys" the grub menu
[13:44] <hatman15> is it because windows ruins the bootloader right?
[13:44] <hatman15> ok
[13:45] <solofight> Leidenfrost: thank you so much - spending your sleep time in helping me - sincerely appereciate it
[13:45] <vman> it overwrites the bootloader
[13:45] <solofight> Good night Leidenfrost - will try something - if persists will talk to you here tomorrow
[13:45] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ++
[13:45] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I mean, change the repos to precise ones and full upgrade everything. Sure after that breakages will occur everywhere. But I'd just do that to my desktop, so I don't care. Servers are more delicate.
[13:45] <Leidenfrost> solofight: haha yw
[13:46] <hatman15> I haven't installed Windows in a while, does anyone remember if it is possible to assign a certain amount (1/2 of C:\ partition) as Windows partition?
[13:46] <solofight> hatman15: yes - but this question more belongs to #windows
[13:46] <hatman15> yes
[13:46] <hatman15> ok
[13:46] <jamiejackson_> From my applications, I would like to send email to localhost, and instead of sending the email out, the email gets logged. So, I'm looking for something like a mock sendmail. (I'm firewalled at work, so I need a way to make sure my apps are sending email.)
[13:46] <solofight> if you have enough space you can i believe
[13:46] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip, solofight: I'm off. Cya.
[13:46] <ShapeShifter499> Ho
[13:46] <ShapeShifter499> *hi
[13:47] <solofight> hateball: take much care while fragmenting the data to make this possible
[13:47] <solofight> Leidenfrost: cya
[13:47] <jamiejackson_> ...so, do you know of something that fits the bill?
[13:47] <Dr4g|bbs> Hey guys, I want to add a cron entry,and write to a log file every time i run this cron task so I can check that it's running.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: do you have a desktop UI?
[13:47] <callipygous> hello all
[13:47] <Dr4g|bbs> I have some stuff registered in cron.hourly file, but it's not actually running (i think) and would like some logging to check.
[13:48] <ShapeShifter499> I really messed up my graphics and now I'm in recovery mode, I can fix this if someone can please tell me the name of the open source ati/radeon graphic package
[13:48] <callipygous> Can somebody tell me what provides glib and intltoolize?
[13:48] <vman> Dr4, just add a "; echo "blah blah" > filename" to the entry
[13:48] <Dr4g|bbs> ActionParsnip: see my last msg, and i'm on ubuntu server, but there's no difference in terms of the cron via the command-line
[13:48] <hatman15> I have back-up'd my files to the D:\ drive with this: http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage  I have lost lots of knowledge of Linux (last time I had installed Linux was 6 years ago or something) but do I need to format something with some program from Linux Rescue before/after I install Windows?
[13:48] <vman> or "&& echo ..."
[13:49] <tsimpson> hatman15: no, the installer should detect you have a windows install and give you the option to set up dual-boot automatically (things have moved on in the last 6 years)
[13:49] <callipygous> Ubuntu desktop is gnome, right?
[13:49] <ShapeShifter499> Anyone?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> callipygous  yes gnome3
[13:50] <MrBushido> unity, gnome is available tho
[13:50] <vman> by default it's the unity crap
[13:50] <callipygous> What I'm looking at looks gnome-ish, but has no configuration
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: true, was going to suggest gnome-schedule to config cron :)
[13:50] <MrBushido> as is kde and xfce (<- my personal favourite)
[13:50] <hatman15> tsimpson: Ok. So installing Windows 50% partition will be just fine and Ubuntu is installable on there?
[13:50] <Dr4g|bbs> ActionParsnip: i need command line here :)
[13:50] <callipygous> that is to say I don't see how I can configure the dock or make changes to it's appearance
[13:50] <Azzle-Dazzle> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69014495/Chromefonts.png - I think ill change browser, Whats the default Konqueror like ?
[13:50] <Dr4g|bbs>  have some stuff registered in cron.hourly file, but it's not actually running (i think) and would like some logging to check. - can someone help me add logging to my cron task
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: you can make a script that is then cron'd and in the script have an echo command or two
[13:50] <callipygous> unity crap?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> callipygous  try myUnity or compiz-config
[13:51] <vman> sorry, I think less highly of gnome3 :)
[13:51] <Dr4g|bbs> ActionParsnip: can you pastbin me an example of your suggestion please ?
[13:51] <MrBushido> vman: emacs or vim? :P
[13:51] <vman> vi
[13:51] <karihre> ok guys, I have a nfs4 server which I need to pass through iptables firewall, is there a way to get it to use specific ports? currently rpc.mountd seems to be listening to random (high) ports while rpcbind is listening on port 111, is rpcbind even needed?
[13:51] <callipygous> MonkeyDust: no idea, neither of those commands run
[13:51] <tsimpson> hatman15: that should be ok, just make sure you run the disk check and defragment tools before installing. the installer will then shrink the windows partition and set up the rest of the space for Ubuntu
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> callipygous  is it unity, you're in?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> gtg
[13:52] <callipygous> MonkeyDust: I wouldn't know how to tell
[13:52] <callipygous> it looks okay, all except the dock
[13:52] <hatman15> tsimpson: Can't I just install Windows 50% of C:\?
[13:52] <callipygous> Can somebody tell me what provides glib and intltoolize?
[13:52] <hatman15> tsimpson: Then I can just install Ubuntu the other 50%
[13:52] <OerHeks> !info glib
[13:53] <ShapeShifter499> No one is answering me in the main Ubuntu room, can someone please tell me the package name for the opensource ati/radeon graphic drivers so I may install via apt-get
[13:53] <hatman15> tsimpson: I am not familiar with shrinking partitions and sounds scary to me
[13:53] <tsimpson> hatman15: if you go through the windows install manually, then you should be able to do that, yes
[13:53] <hatman15> ok
[13:54] <hatman15> thanks everyone for the help, if I am able to install windows/ubuntu duo, then I will shout it out here. thanks! bye!
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: http://pastebin.com/DWFhkWPp
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: then cron the script
[13:56] <Dr4g|bbs> ActionParsnip: okay thanks, i'll get to this - in the middle of something.
[13:56] <EmoSpice> Let's see how this do-release-upgrade goes...
[13:56] <callipygous> Can somebody tell me what provides glib and intltoolize?
[13:57] <retrorex> hey guys i run a very old pc on ubuntu (hardy lts). I know it has got not support. The thing is that the process PYTHON uses 5.mb of ram so I want to disable the process from strting up. Yep python is cool and all but I can't affprd it any help??
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: you get the idea, the echos let you know how stuff it going
[13:57] <gordonjcp> retrorex: python itself won't be starting, but some sort of process using it will
[13:57] <EmoSpice> retrorex: there's got to be a piece of software that requires it.
[13:57] <Dr4g|bbs> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: plus, if yu want to edit the running, you don't have to mess with cron, and you can copy the script and modify it and cron that to make a similar script run :)
[13:58] <gurkee> How do I list the 'autostart' daemons in 12.04? Specifically, I would like to see if sshd starts up. (if I 'reboot' the server, I cannot connect via ssh. If i click 'restart' in the provider's web interface, sshd starts up)
[13:58] <thirsteh> is there a media player that isn't terribly slow (I don't need all the bells and whistles, just show and play files in a directory. Don't even care about album names or genres.) Something like XMMS?
[13:59] <retrorex> ps x | grep python
[13:59] <retrorex>  5397 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.5 /usr/bin/smart-notifier
[13:59] <retrorex>  5406 ?        S      0:00 python /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py
[13:59] <retrorex>  5802 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep python
[13:59] <retrorex> @gordonjcp EmoSpice
[13:59] <FloodBot1> retrorex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:59] <thirsteh> so not banshee or rhythmbox
[13:59] <EmoSpice> thirsteh: There're plenty. Deadbeef is decent. Even lighter is cmus or mocp.
[14:00] <thirsteh> ohhh, Deadbeef. That's a Foobar clone, right?
[14:00] <Azzle-Dazzle> ActionParsnip: I FIXED IT :) !! woop woop
[14:00] <thirsteh> I'd forgotten about that
[14:00] <Azzle-Dazzle> thanks !
[14:00] <EmoSpice> thirsteh: somewhat.
[14:00] <retrorex> @gordonjcp EmoSpice I guess I don't need smart notifier and printer
[14:00] <thirsteh> thanks EmoSpice
[14:00] <EmoSpice> thirsteh: yeah.
[14:01] <callipygous> Can anybody tell me what provides glib?
[14:01] <utu-san> thirsteh: get audacious
[14:01] <callipygous> what package
[14:02] <retrorex> k
[14:02] <boutell> hi folks, I have a strange issue with bash and xargs. xargs only runs my command once. If I substitute plain old 'ls' for my bash script, ls gets run once for every file in the folder, as you'd expect here:
[14:02] <boutell> find . | xargs ./test.sh
[14:02] <Azzle-Dazzle> next on my to do list: Are there any equalizer live wallpapers for ubuntu ?
[14:02] <thirsteh> utu-san, EmoSpice: DeadBeeF, cmus (ncurses, w00t) and Audacius all look great, thanks
[14:02] <iceroot> boutell: #bash
[14:03] <callipygous> How do you configure the Ubuntu desktop?
[14:03] <solofight> ActionParsnip: can you please give me some tips on how to proceed ?
[14:03] <callipygous> It doesn't seem to have any thing to configure it
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> solofight: on what?
[14:04] <solofight> Here's the initial msg with the problem: (09:02:51 AM) solofight: People - i ran out of options to check - I am using 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 which is not being supported anymore - when i try to upgrade it, its giving me this kind of error Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.177 80] all over the place
[14:04] <solofight> ActionParsnip: ^
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> solofight: I'd just clea install with Precise.
[14:04] <solofight> ActionParsnip: clea install with Precise ? please explain
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> solofight: maverick is dead, Precise is the latest stable release and is LTS
[14:05] <EmoSpice> thirsteh: I actually prefer mocp over ncurses. I'd suggest giving it a look as well
[14:05] <thirsteh> will do
[14:06] <EmoSpice> s/ncurses/cmus/
[14:06] <solofight> ActionParsnip: LTS ?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> solofight: yes
[14:07]  * solofight googles LTS
[14:07] <solofight> Long Term Support
[14:07] <solofight> ok
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> solofight: yes, well done :)
[14:07] <Pici> boutell: Thats how xargs works.  use -n 1  if you want it to execute the command per 1 arguments, or use -I {} ./script.sh {}   (a better test would be to use echo rather than ls, since you can more easily see how many times the command is being executed)
[14:07] <callipygous> What is this about:
[14:07] <solofight> ActionParsnip: so you are suggesting a fresh install of Precise after removing Maverick ?
[14:07] <callipygous> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libglib-2.0-0'
[14:08] <callipygous> What does "Couldn't find package by regex" mean?
[14:08] <EmoSpice> that it couldn't find any package matching that regex? ;)
[14:08] <callipygous> apt-cache search glib showed that libglib-2.0-0 is there
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> solofight: yes, you will get to the latest OS faster and it will be more stable. You can restore your user data from your backups
[14:09] <utu-san> callipygous: it is  libglib2.0-0
[14:09] <bzb> i just install opensuse12.2.  flash player in firefox does not work with the latest installed flashplayer from adobe.  how can i find out what's wrong.  any log message i can look at?
[14:09] <solofight> ActionParsnip: am talking about a server - taking back up and restoring is going to take huge time :(
[14:09] <Pici> bzb: This is #ubuntu, we do not support opensuse.
[14:10] <saml> hey, I have this https://gist.github.com/3666549     and when I do   sudo service cq-author start,  I get  that process terminated immediately
[14:10] <callipygous> that worked utu-san , thanks
[14:10] <callipygous> I just copied and pasted what you said
[14:10] <saml> when I run the script line in the shell, it works though
[14:11] <solofight> ActionParsnip: this cannot be fixed at all ?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> solofight: you should have a regular backup anyway...
[14:12] <solofight> ActionParsnip: not enough support for scheduled backups here - they dont recognize the importance of it
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> solofight: you'll learn the value of backups when a drive fails
[14:13] <solofight> ActionParsnip: i personally have a 600GB external drive to take backup of my personal files which i use for my home
[14:13] <solofight> office - they need to provide
[14:13] <solofight> ActionParsnip: can you please help me in recovering this ?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> solofight: a 1Tb USB drive costs nothing compared to the value of your data
[14:16] <jrib> solofight: you can upgrade (but it will take you longer because you need to do 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 to get to 12.04 (precise)).  See ubottu
[14:16] <jrib> !upgrade > solofight
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> ages longer
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> jrib: shame its not 10.04 :(
[14:17] <jrib> ActionParsnip: yep
[14:17]  * EmoSpice is currently doing an upgrade 11.10 -> 12.04. "Ages" is an understatement.
[14:17] <jrib> fresh install takes like 15 minutes if you have the iso already
[14:18] <gurkee> if I '$ reboot' the server, I cannot connect via ssh afterwards. If i click 'restart' in the provider's web interface, I can. What might be the difference?
[14:18] <gurkee> (Ubuntu 12.04 server)
[14:18] <jrib> gurkee: does sshd start when you "'$ reboot' the server"?
[14:18] <gurkee> jrib: I guess it does not, that's why I can't connect afterwards
[14:19] <gurkee> jrib: so the question likely is: why does sshd start in one case and not in the other?
[14:19] <solofight> jrib: thats ok - taking longer time is ok
[14:19] <jrib> gurkee: I think we would have to know what exactly 'restart' does in the provider's web interface
[14:19] <solofight> jrib: the problem is - Here's the initial msg with the problem: (09:02:51 AM) solofight: People - i ran out of options to check - I am using 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 which is not being supported anymore - when i try to upgrade it, its giving me this kind of error Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.177 80] all over the
[14:19] <jrib> solofight: yes, see ubottu's wiki link
[14:20] <ThinkT510> !eol | solofight
[14:20] <gurkee> jrib: I did # initctl list and it lists, among others: ssh start/running, process 18555 -- this means that sshd is properly set up as startup daemon, right?
[14:21] <cfhowlett> solofight: clean install is an option?
[14:21] <flavio_> ?
[14:21] <gurkee> jrib: I just realize that it could be a firewall issue: when I try to connect in case I rebooted manually ("# reboot"), I immediately receive a 'connection refused'.
[14:21] <jrib> gurkee: I think that just implies it's running now.  I think you'd get the same output if you didn't have it starting automatically at boot but ran it later with "sudo service ssh start"
[14:21] <solofight> cfhowlett: no not right now
[14:22] <gurkee> jrib: then, how do I find out if sshd is configured for automatic startup?
[14:22] <jrib> gurkee: check /etc/init/ssh.conf*
[14:22] <gurkee> jrib: start on filesystem
[14:23] <gurkee> means that it starts as soon as the filesystem job is done, right?
[14:23] <jrib> gurkee: that means that script executes, sure
[14:25] <jrib> gurkee: for example the default script tests a few things in it.  Also, you need to make sure there's no /etc/init/ssh.override
[14:25] <zteam> Hi all
[14:25] <truexfan81> a friend installed icewm on her 11.04, it doesn't give her the option to login to it, it works fine on my 12.04 netbook, so i'm hoping you guys can help
[14:26] <zteam> I try to create a multi-boot usb-key with Ubuntu and clonezilla live, it works great on my laptop but my desktop machine refuses to boot from it
[14:26] <zteam> and just states "no ui configuration directive found"
[14:26] <gurkee> jrib: oh, sorry for wasting your time,that was on the wrong machine. :-) On the machine in question it says: start on filesystem or runlevel [2345].
[14:27] <solofight> can i download and install ssh server in my 10.10 64 bit ? if yes please point me to the right directionon how to
[14:27] <zteam> Any ideas?
[14:27] <subz3r0> solofight, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:27] <solofight> i get only results showing apt-get way. I want to do this manually
[14:27] <solofight> subz3r0: am running a EOL release - so it says broken packages
[14:27] <cfhowlett> zteam: if it boots on lappy, the boot medium is good.  Sounds like the desktop is seeking an extra boot parameter.
[14:28] <LjL> solofight: so use the old-releases repository
[14:28] <LjL> solofight: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[14:28] <solofight> LjL: how to ?
[14:28] <subz3r0> solofight, fix the debs or upgrade
[14:28] <zteam> cfhowlett, yes, I agree but I don't understand why?
[14:28] <LjL> solofight: replace your repository URLs in /etc/apt/sources.list with that
[14:28] <zteam> cfhowlett, It boots a "normal" usb-key with just Ubuntu just fine
[14:28] <solofight> subz3r0: upgradation fails because of some fetch error which ive been struggling with for past few days - how to fix the debs ?
[14:29] <gurkee> jrib: there is no override. However, I think this is important: when I doo 'reboot' and then have a look in the 'process list' in the web interface, I see that mainly only /sbin/init is running. When I then do 'restart' in the web interface, I see the following output: A timeout occured while waiting for the vserver to finish and it will be killed. process list: 18437 7085 v2201209138089124 ? Ss 0:01 /sbin/init
[14:29] <subz3r0> solofight, follow the steps of LjL
[14:29] <alexr2> Is there any way to get 2 different wallpapers on 2 monitors?
[14:29] <gurkee> i.e. it looks like during manual 'reboot' via console, the init process hangs.
[14:30] <solofight> LjL: am here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/
[14:30] <jrib> gurkee: so if you wait long enough, the machine finally comes up?
[14:30] <solofight> now how to get the ssh url and update my sources.list ?
[14:30] <zykotick9> alexr2: using compiz wallpaper management, and disabling USED to work - no idea if that's possible anymore... good luck.
[14:31] <solofight> LjL: ^
[14:31] <jrib> solofight: this is all on the wiki...
[14:31] <zykotick9> alexr2: sorry "... and disabling default USED to work"
[14:31] <gurkee> jrib: I did # reboot, waited for at least 5 minutes and the process list in the web interface still only shows /sbin/init. When I do restart via web interface, the system comes up within 10 seconds.
[14:31] <solofight> this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades ??
[14:31] <cfhowlett> zteam: is this a new or old computer?  Wonder if it's auto booting a network or some of that new UEFI stuff I keep hearing about...
[14:31] <solofight> jrib: this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades ?
[14:32] <zteam> cfhowlett, Nope, it doesn't have UEIFI
[14:32] <jrib> gurkee: but does the system actually shut down when you issue reboot?  (i.e. does it hang during boot or during the shutdown phase)
[14:32] <jrib> solofight: yes
[14:32] <cfhowlett> zteam: stay in channel and ask again.  Sorry I can't offer any kind of definitive assistance with this.
[14:33] <jrib> solofight: actually, let me see.
[14:34] <gurkee> jrib: that
[14:34] <gurkee> jrib: that's a good question. I am not entirely sure.
[14:34] <gurkee> jrib: I am currently trying to interprete /var/log/upstart/rc.log
[14:34] <zteam> cfhowlett, yes, will do, thanks anyway
[14:35] <jrib> gurkee: if you shutdown the system, you can bring it up with the web interface?  If so, see if "shutdown -h now" actually shutsdown the system
[14:35] <AminosAmigos> Hello, i lost files how can i recover them ?
[14:35] <gurkee> jrib: okay, I try that
[14:36] <ThinkT510> AminosAmigos: backups to the rescue
[14:36] <gurkee> jrib: I think this  takes already too long. I see from the webinterface that there is this process: /bin/sh /etc/rc0.d/S20sendsigs stop
[14:36] <emil-> AminosAmigos: there is a program called "scalpel" you can use to recover files that you have deleted
[14:36] <gurkee> jrib: (among others). It's still there.
[14:37] <jrib> solofight: that page doesn't seem to have been updated.  But yes, you can use old-releases.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com in sources.list (you can see the 9.10 page as an example, but keep in mind you can't just copy and paste)
[14:37] <AminosAmigos> Ok thnx
[14:37] <gurkee> jrib: yeah, that's definitely the problem. it does not shut down. in which log files should I have a look to find out the cause?
[14:38] <jrib> gurkee: not sure
[14:38] <solofight> jrib: thank you will try now
[14:38] <gurkee> jrib: /bin/sh /etc/rc0.d/S20sendsigs stop is still running.
[14:39] <AminosAmigos> @emil does it work even  if another software "purged" them ? cuz my files where purged by Httrack
[14:39] <callipygous> can the Ubuntu desktop me configured at all?
[14:40] <ThinkT510> callipygous: does not compute
[14:40] <kravion> hi, i'm experiencing issues with my ubuntu wireless... the network works fine and then suddenly the connection speed will drop to 1mbps and webpages etc wont load... i'm sure its a problem with linux as there was no problem on the same hardware in windows... currently i've tried removing networkmanager and using wcid and problem still persists
[14:41] <adib> do you have the proper drivers?
[14:42] <OerHeks> kravion, i solved it by disabling IPv6
[14:42] <OerHeks> !ipv6
[14:43] <adib> soo, anyone knows how to fix the wrong resolution, am on an macbook 8.1 with ubuntu 12.04, it does not show the right one.
[14:44] <OerHeks> adib did you check the mactel pages ?
[14:44] <OerHeks> !mac
[14:45] <adib> yes i did, every fix i could find there involves xorg.conf, which and i dont have and the way to gen those according to google doesnt work. OerHeks
[14:46] <OerHeks> adib to generate a Xorg, >>  sudo Xorg -configure
[14:47] <safinaskar> adib: make sure you have proper video drivers installed
[14:47] <adib> fatal server error...
[14:47] <adib> server is already active for display 0
[14:48] <safinaskar> adib: are you sure you wrote "sudo Xorg -configure" and not just "sudo Xorg"?
[14:48] <adib> yes safinaskar
[14:48] <OerHeks> adib, boot in recovery mode, see answer #1 > http://askubuntu.com/questions/129941/my-ubuntu-12-04-has-no-xorg-conf-is-that-normal
[14:49] <adib> does it matter if i dont have that folder either?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !mac | adib
[14:50] <rfernandes> my laptop does not come back from suspend mode
[14:50] <adib> ActionParsnip:  if you look up you see that i already did check that
[14:51] <adib> do you have something important running?
[14:51] <adib> i think i had that before and forcing it to shutdown by using the power switch button fixed it
[14:52] <truexfan81> hey does anyone know if mate can be installed via ppa in 11.04?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> adib: what is the video chip used?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=mate   fill your boots
[14:53] <jrib> gurkee: you can probably use your web interface to see what isn't shutting down?  What non-default services are you running?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: Natty is EOL soon
[14:53] <truexfan81> how soon?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: October
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:54] <adib> ActionParsnip:  its Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
[14:54] <adib> i think
[14:54] <rfernandes> i am using a HP Pavilion dv4; that's all i know
[14:54] <gurkee> jrib: the web interface only shows the process list. Thanks for your offer, but does this help you? There is no terminal :(. This is a vServer and the image is an Ubuntu 12.04 server minimal image which I installed a few hours ago. So almost nothing is running there.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> adib: is it ok in the Quantal live CD desktop?
[14:55] <adib> uhh?
[14:55] <gurkee> jrib: I just posted to the provider's forum that there is a problem with this image during shutdown.
[14:55] <jrib> gurkee: ah
[14:55] <gurkee> jrib: the provider declares this image to be still in 'beta' phase, so I guess they do not have a lot of experience with this image.
[14:57] <elijah> Hey guys, in my login keyring there are a ton of passwords, how did they get there? They are all for websites, is it Lastpass extension for Chrome?
[14:58] <nhat_> alo
[14:58] <derekv> I'm configuring an ubuntu machine that will be imaged onto several machines for developement.  the projects go into /common which is mounted on a seperate drive.  In the future, we might want to have other projects which require a differenc configuration... i'd like to be able to choose which drive to mount on /common, and to be able to store some system configuration (overrides) on the /common
[14:58] <xente> I installed Ubuntu server on a few computers and not long after I installed it on a few more. When I ssh and run w or who on the first group, they only print the IP address from source computer but the second group looks up the hostname. Does anyone know what the difference could be? I installed Ubuntu using the same methods and (as far as I remember) I configured them exactly the same
[14:59] <derekv> did that make sense?
[14:59] <gurkee> jrib: these are the last lines of /var/log/upstart/rc.log: http://ctrlv.it/id/MzA4NTQ1
[14:59] <derekv> Want to seperate out OS configuration from things which are project specific, so that the images can be handled seperatly.
[15:00] <derekv> reboot to load different project is OK
[15:02] <adib> ActionParsnip: can you help me? i launched in recovery mode but i think it stopped or it is taking a long time
[15:03] <derekv> I guess the mountpoint /common is misleading in this context
[15:05] <angs> I forgot my admin password, how can I recover it?
[15:05] <elijah> Easy stack overflow points here if anyone wants a shot at them - http://askubuntu.com/questions/185160/how-did-all-the-passwords-get-in-my-login-keyring
[15:05] <cfhowlett> !password|angs
[15:06] <safinaskar> adib: reboot you computer and keep "shift" pressed at bootup
[15:06] <safinaskar> adib: sorry. not you
[15:06] <adib> :P
[15:06] <safinaskar> angs: reboot you computer and keep "shift" pressed at bootup
[15:06] <safinaskar> angs: then type "e"
[15:07] <safinaskar> angs: then add "rw init=/bin/bash" after vmlinuz-343453423
[15:07] <safinaskar> angs: then type "ctrl-x"
[15:07] <safinaskar> angs: then your system will run, but in very strange mode
[15:07] <safinaskar> angs: type "passwd"
[15:08] <adib> safinaskar: any chance you can help me also?
[15:08] <Guest52165> how  by software name locate where it is installed ?
[15:08] <truexfan81> ActionParsnip:  thanks for the heads up about natty, my friend will be upgrading to 12.04 soon
[15:08] <safinaskar> angs: :) (this is way you can hack nearly any linux computer)
[15:09] <blackshirt> not truelly true
[15:09] <Pumpkin-> "hack", assuming you have physical access to the machine in question, and it doesn't have encrypted drives.
[15:09] <angs> safinaskar: thanks a lot, I will try :)
[15:09] <Pumpkin-> generally some other form of security has already failed by the point a bad guy has that access
[15:11] <xente> does anyone know why w.procps would show the ip address of the connecting computer on some installations and not on others when they should be configured exactly the same?
[15:11] <gordonjcp> safinaskar: "crack", not "hack", and it's valid for just about any OS not just Linux
[15:12] <kevin1961> Hi. have just got a small netbook Acer aspire one model NAV50 who has used one and with what distro please
[15:12] <kevin1961> have seenpuupy linux andPeppermint etc
[15:12] <zykotick9> !ot | kevin1961
[15:12] <OerHeks> kevin1961, try ubuntu in live mode
[15:13] <kevin1961> yeah but there are more users here and its just a quicky lol
[15:13] <cfhowlett> kevin1961: see lubuntu or xubuntu for lightweight distros
[15:14] <blackshirt> try debian
[15:14] <kevin1961> OK thanks,will see what youtube comes up with, always a good idea. Thanks
[15:16] <Pratz_> Hi friends, I have got a new Dell Ultrabook, but am unable to install ubuntu.
[15:16] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: what kind of issues?
[15:16] <Pratz_> When trying to install, it only shows /dev/sdb
[15:17] <Pratz_> Cant click on new partition tables or anything
[15:17] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: NOT your hdd?
[15:17] <Pratz_> nop
[15:17] <Pratz_> I started in Try mode and open gparted
[15:17] <David_Miller> Good morning, anyone know how I can get the mfi driver working on ubuntu?
[15:17] <Pratz_> deleted the OS partition of 450 gb
[15:17] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: similar issue here.  had to manually kill a gpt partition scheme
[15:17] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: How do we do that?
[15:18] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: wait one
[15:18] <adib> well apperently i cant get in recovery mode, any other way to get an xorg.conf? sudo Xorg -configure doesnt work
[15:18] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: Also, the laptop has 32gb ssd. I wish to make use of that too.
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: I don't have enough experience to advise about ssd
[15:19]  * niee Slaps Sir
[15:19] <Sir> :)
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: run fdisk in a terminal.  if it returns "WARNING: gpt ... DETECTED"  we'll continue
[15:20] <zykotick9> adib: the command is "sudo X -configure".  does it say already running?  if so, use "sudo X -configure :1"
[15:20] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: only "fdisk" ?
[15:20] <Pratz_> it shows usage and options help.
[15:20] <adib> ill try that zykotick9 everyone else said Xorg or something else
[15:21] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: grr.  bad intel. no.
[15:21] <Pratz_> cfhowlett:  :)
[15:21] <magma> In a network, is it possible to register users so that they are registered in windows and unix at the same time?
[15:22] <adib> k i got teh file
[15:22] <adib> thanks zykotick9
[15:22] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: trying to find the command to identify the current partition scheme.  how about system disk tools>hdd properties?
[15:22] <zykotick9> adib: glad to help
[15:22] <adib> also you know the command to move the file and rename it?
[15:22] <safinaskar> adib: you should be able to set right resolution in GUI. if you cannot then you have no right drivers
[15:22] <adib> dont feel like chaging all the folders :P
[15:22] <safinaskar> adib: so try to install lastest kernel
[15:23] <zykotick9> adib: "sudo cp /where/the/new/xorg.conf /etc/X11/"
[15:23] <adib> k thx
[15:23] <zykotick9> adib: if you have an xorg.conf currently you might want to back it up first - as my command will overwrite it!
[15:24] <adib> i dont have one zykotick9, thats why i need to generate on
[15:24] <adib> one
[15:24] <ciccio> hi
[15:24] <ciccio> ciao
[15:24] <ciccio> !list
[15:24] <zykotick9> adib: also, you might have to rename it to xorg.conf (i seem to remember the generated one is called something different)
[15:24] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: May be this can help? http://i.imgur.com/cRFNP.png
[15:24] <safinaskar> adib: i don't know why someone you give command "sudo Xorg -configure".    but if you want to run it, you should at first log out from X, then type "sudo service gdm stop" to real console (but instead of gdm put ubuntu's analogue of gdm, i don't know what is it), then type "sudo Xorg -configure" to console
[15:24] <adib> yeah it is xorg.conf.new
[15:24] <ciccio> !list
[15:25] <ciccio> !list
[15:25] <zykotick9>  adib: "sudo cp /where/the/new/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf" would work then
[15:25] <adib> k thx
[15:25] <zykotick9> safinaskar: fyi i doubt many people in #ubuntu are still using gdm, it's lightdm now
[15:25] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: can you move /dev/sda3 next to sda2?
[15:26] <zykotick9> safinaskar: also "sudo X -configure :1" gets around the running Xorg
[15:26] <Owner> anyone here?
[15:26] <cfhowlett> Owner: yes
[15:26] <jiffe98> I have 2 new supermicro machines that I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on and they don't seem to boot every time, it always get to the grub screen but sometimes it will hang after that and if I hard reset it, it will boot just fine
[15:27] <jiffe98> any idea what that might be or where I might look?
[15:28] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: I have deleted sda3, so now its sda1, sda2, unallocated
[15:28] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: and unallocated STILL won't partition?
[15:28] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: It can
[15:28] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: so problem solved?
[15:29] <Pratz_> but doesn't show up while intallation. Retrying though.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> jiffe98: what video chip?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: First md5sum your iso to ensure you got a good download.  If it's bad, download the torrent.  If it's good, consider getting the alternate installer iso.
[15:30] <jiffe98> ActionParsnip: Matrox G200eW, this is ubuntu server also
[15:30] <cfhowlett> and with I bid ubuntu "adieu" for the night here in China.  Ciao.
[15:33] <killer> O_o
[15:33] <petar_> any one here who can help me with the configuration of my ubuntu-system as a home-router?
[15:35] <Owner> this place is suprisingly not active
[15:35] <Owner> 1670 idlers of 1673
[15:36] <safinaskar> adib: also i think you don't need to manipulate xorg.conf. just install drivers. also , tell us, what is your video card?
[15:36] <adib> Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory, thats the one i found on apple site
[15:37] <zykotick9> adib: intel typically doesn't need xorg.conf - is this an apple computer?
[15:37] <adib> yes
[15:37] <adib> like i said 10x before but w/e
[15:37] <adib> macbook 8.1 mid/late 2011
[15:38] <petar_> any one here who can help me config my linux-desktop to act as a home-router?
[15:39] <roy___> perhaps someone can help me out here, i have ubuntu installed on my laptop but shutdown unexpectedly .. and couldn't reboot, i ran fsck and fixed errors and can boot now, but somehow graphics configuration is broken and i'm unable to fix it
[15:39] <adib> 13inch btw zykotick9
[15:39] <zykotick9> roy___: perhaps sharing what graphics card you have would help the channel
[15:40] <zykotick9> roy___: if you aren't sure "lspci | grep -i vga" from a terminal will tell you
[15:40] <frnk> hi there. I have a webserver running ubuntu, nothing special, but apt-get tells me of 'unmet dependencies'... is there a possibility to get this plain standard working? what is recommended to put into sources-list? does anyone here have a standard solution for me, i'm not familiar with ubuntu and dont want to wreck the system.
[15:41] <tico96> hi
[15:41] <sunnymolini> petar_, Are you using ubuntu server or desktop?
[15:41] <roy___> zykotick9: actually i'm unable to type the | character in the terminal , its on a laptop
[15:41] <krababbel> petar_: what do you want to do? firewall or just router?
[15:41] <sunnymolini> I know you said linux-desktop, but is that just the form factor or the distro
[15:41] <jrib> frnk: pastebin what is happening (and what you ran)
[15:41] <roy___> zykotick9: i get the < character instead
[15:42] <zykotick9> roy___: lol, well good luck then
[15:42] <petar_> sunnymolini, im using ubuntu desktop. but i plan to switch to debian later. But it shouldn't be too different.
[15:42] <roy___> fuck this shit, i'm getting back to windows ...
[15:42] <petar_> krababbel, I want router. Don't care much for a firewall.
[15:42] <tico96> someone knows how to boot a bootable usb on mac? holding alt while booting doesn't help much
[15:42] <jrib> roy___: you're free to do that.  But if you wish to stay here and participate, please mind your language
[15:42] <adib> c tico96
[15:43] <adib> also tico96 if you want to install ubuntu first get refit
[15:43] <krababbel> petar_: enable ip fowarding in /etc/sysctl.conf and it will route between interfaces, that's all
[15:43] <petar_> I've tried to install and configure shorewall, but i'm not getting it to work. I can access the internet from the ubuntu-computer, but if i try to connect any other computers to the local lan they just get made up ip-adresses and it doesn't work
[15:43] <tico96> is it available for mac?
[15:43] <tico96> i use mac os x mountain lion
[15:43] <sunnymolini> petar_ have you reviewed the help doc? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[15:43] <adib> refit allows better os selection
[15:44] <krababbel> petar_: maybe describe in detail your setup
[15:44] <adib> so first install refit
[15:44] <adib> its essential
[15:44] <tico96> okey, i'll try :)
[15:44] <adib> also
[15:44] <petar_> krababbel, i've tried that, but i can't get my local computers to connect to the net. I've probably missed something
[15:44] <adib> dont launch mac from the grub menu
[15:44] <roy___> excuse me
[15:44] <petar_> I have one ubuntu computer with two NICs. eth0 is connected to the internet (works fine) and I get an ip-adress from my isp. eth1 is connected to a switch to which i have connected a second computer.
[15:45] <tico96> you mean in ubuntu or the refit?
[15:45] <petar_> in /etc/sysctl.conf i have enabled forwarding and one second thing.
[15:45] <roy___> one last question though is there a default root password for ubuntu, cause i'd like to copy files to usb
[15:45] <LjL> !root | roy___
[15:45] <frnk> hello, back again: my pastebin is here: http://pastebin.com/wLCLX5wx
[15:45] <petar_> and rp_filter (sysctl.conf)
[15:45] <adib> uhh tico96 i suggest you do some research on ubuntu first, seems like you barely did
[15:46] <krababbel> petar_: configure ip address for eth1 and use that as gateway on the second pc
[15:46] <petar_> krababbel, how do i configure ip address for eth1?
[15:46] <krababbel> petar_: /etc/network/interfaces
[15:46] <tico96> i've used some apps like macfuse and a applikation called efi i think but none of them worked but i'll try refit as os selection, but thanks for the help :)
[15:47] <krababbel> petar_: but again, depending on your setup, you might need to do that in network manager
[15:47] <roy___> ubottu: ah right, could you tell me how i can figure out which /dev node is my usb stick connected to ?
[15:47] <tico96> i've been using ubuntu before on pc but not mac :P
[15:47] <petar_> krababbel, my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like this:
[15:47] <petar_> iface eth1 inet static
[15:47] <petar_> address 192.168.0.1
[15:47] <adib> then you should know what grub is tico96
[15:47] <petar_> broadcast 192.168.0.255
[15:47] <petar_> netmask 255.255.255.0
[15:47] <FloodBot1> petar_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <tico96> i've heard the name grub but i never noticed it :P
[15:47] <tico96> before*
[15:48] <frnk> @jrib: http://pastebin.com/wLCLX5wx
[15:48] <tico96> anyway do you recommend me to use 32-bit or 64-bit
[15:48] <tico96> ?
[15:48] <adib> what is your mac?
[15:48] <krababbel> petar_: then you need NAT, look at the link you got, section 4.5
[15:49] <tico96> macbook pro 13 inch mountain lion intel i5
[15:49] <tico96> the latest
[15:49] <jrib> frnk: you're on hardy (8.04), and you've enabled a repository meant for precise (12.04).  This isn't supported and you've likely broken your system if you've ran updates with it
[15:49] <jrib> frnk: you also have a debian repository there which I don't know if you've ever used
[15:50] <frnk> can i downgrade again (it was just php)
[15:50] <petar_> krababbel, ah, thats what i've been using shorewall for. To simplify NAT and masquerading configuration.
[15:50] <adib> tico96: should be 64 bit,
[15:50] <tico96> ok :P
[15:50] <tico96> :)
[15:50] <jrib> frnk: "it was just php" means?
[15:50] <krababbel> petar_: yes, your ISP won't route your internal ip addresses, so you need NAT
[15:51] <frnk> concerning the last line in sources-list, I think the only thing I ran was apt-get upgrade, apt-get install php
[15:51] <jrib> frnk: upgrade would try to upgrade many many packages
[15:52] <frnk> hm, what do you recommnend? can I upgrade everything to one version, like 12.04?
[15:53] <jrib> frnk: you can try. If it's troublesome, just do a fresh install of 12.04 and restore your back-ups
[15:53] <petar_> krababbel, precisely. And I've configured shorewall in a way I think it should work (shorewall configures ip-tables for me). Therefore i guess I have NAT
[15:53] <jrib> frnk: (and don't mix repositories not meant for your ubuntu version)
[15:53] <krababbel> petar_: you can do nat using iptables
[15:54] <petar_> krababbel, yes but ip-tables is complicated. Thats why I chose to do it with shorewall, which in turn configures ip-tables.
[15:54] <frnk> thanks , i didnt know that (so, there should have been the word 'hardy' everywhere?)
[15:54] <adib> zykotick9: you told me to tell you which video card i use, i did and you ignored me :(
[15:54] <tico96> adib: i've looked for info about grub and... you ment that i should disable mac right?
[15:54] <Maverick_> well, hi all....
[15:55] <adib> nvm tico96
[15:55] <tico96> adib: ok
[15:55] <tico96> adib: bye and thanks :)
[15:56] <Maverick_> somebody could help me?
[15:56] <krababbel> petar_: NAT is just one command in iptables
[15:56] <adib> depends Maverick_
[15:56] <frnk> so, i understand, that upgrading _everything_ now to 12.04 wont work easyly (kernel upgrade necessary?) and I better prepare for setting up everything clean and new?
[15:56] <zykotick9> !ask | Maverick_
[15:56] <petar_> krababbel, oh okey. I'll look it up
[15:56] <Maverick_> i've just installed xchat in my ubuntu 10.10 and i want to connect to webchat.freenode.net. how to set it up?
[15:56] <frnk> how would I do 'upgrade everything' anyway?  apt-get update ???
[15:57] <zykotick9> !10.10 | Maverick_
[15:57] <safeith> I have problem with b43 firmware in ubuntu 12.04 , when i use it my bluetooth stop working
[15:57] <roy___> i'm unable to mount vfat filesystem or something .. someone can help me out ?
[15:58] <krababbel> petar_: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE I believe that should enable NAT
[15:58] <sunnymolini> frnk, that woudl be sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:58] <mewt> when i ty to run a desktop launcher i get "[Desktop: command not found". I'm sure my problem is simple, but google isnt helping :( anyone know the answer
[15:58] <ubsrv> hi people, just one question: Why can't I change the machine's hostname? I run 'hostname newhostname.domain.com' and once I reboot I always get 'newhostname' (without .domain.com) again
[15:58] <zykotick9> !hostname | ubsrv
[15:59] <zykotick9> ubsrv: carefully follow above - or sudo WILL break
[15:59] <Jan_> I am installing Ubuntu Server in VMware, and i would like to know what LVM is
[15:59] <Jan_> What is the advantage of LVM?
[15:59] <petar_> krababbel, tried to run that command to enable NAT, but it doesn't work :/
[15:59] <ubsrv> thanx a lot zykotick9
[16:00] <frnk> apt-get upgrade fails with the same 'unmet dependencies' error, and recommends 'apt-get -f install'
[16:00] <Maverick_> so, is it better for me to upgrade my ubuntu first?
[16:00] <krababbel> petar_: this is more of a #networking question, but can you ping both router interfaces from you second PC?
[16:00] <adib> im on an macbook 8.1 mid/late 2011 with ubuntu 12.04, if i connect an second screen the resolution is not what it is supposed to be and i cant change it normally, trough googling i found out i had to edit xorg.conf, but someone in this channel told me to not to and to upgrade graphics card driver, which is Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB of DDR3. anyone can help me update/install the driver?
[16:00] <zykotick9> Maverick_: 10.10 is done/unsupported - so yes.  upgrade to, or fresh install, a supported version.
[16:00] <frnk> but that command will remove A LOT of things... how is the chance that i'm stable afterwards and can reinstall apache etc?
[16:01] <petar_> if i try to ping eth1 (local) from my other pc (unix laptop) i get no answer.
[16:01] <petar_> the eth0 interface (internet) is working since im using it now.
[16:01] <Maverick_> zykotick9: what's your suggestion after that? i do really new in setting up a IRC service :)
[16:02] <TJ-> Jan_: Logical Volume Management. A way to manage the space on hard disks efficiently and flexibly without being constrained by fixed partitions as with msdos/GPT partition labels. With LVM you can allocate multiple physical disk to one Volume Group, and can create as many Logical Volumes (containing file-systems) as needed, and resize them easily (allocate new space if they get full for example)
[16:02] <Jan_> And do i need page files when running ubuntu on top of esxi?
[16:02] <Jan_> like the swap partition
[16:03] <petar_> krababbel, if we switch to another problem. I've tried to install and configure dhcpd3-server. But without luck, it doesn't start and just tells me to look in the system log for clues. But I can't find anything there.
[16:03] <zykotick9> Maverick_: webchat.freenode.net, isn't that the web interface?
[16:03] <frnk> can someone tell, what this means"
[16:03] <frnk> http://pastebin.com/dVTBvJWY
[16:04] <Maverick_> zykotick9: yes. i visited it an hour ago after my friend invited me. is it unable to set up in IRC service?
[16:04] <petar_> actually i did find something i the syslog.
[16:04] <iceroot> what is the correct package to open a bug against resume from suspend?
[16:04] <frnk> what lines are supposed to be in sources.list for 12.04 then?
[16:05] <zykotick9> Maverick_: do you just want to start a channel on freenode or run an IRC server on your computer?
[16:05] <TJ-> iceroot: "linux" (the kernel)
[16:05] <roy___> if /lib/modules is empty is it possible to mount usb devices ?
[16:05] <TJ-> iceroot: You should find log entries in /var/log/kern.log at the time of the suspend reporting which module(s) failed to suspend
[16:05] <iceroot> frnk: http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/sources.list
[16:05] <zykotick9> frnk: i'd say you have a broken system, if libc6 is the issue...
[16:06] <satya> frnk: http://pastebin.com/uuACmDgs
[16:06] <Maverick_> zykotick9: I want to run it on IRC if it's possible.
[16:06] <Jan_> Is there a way to see how much the swap partition is being used?
[16:06] <iceroot> TJ-: thank you, its more of "the time is not automaticly set to the current value when came back from suspend" so i guess something should trigger ntp or something like that
[16:06] <TJ-> roy___: If the running kernel's modules aren't available, and the device needs a device driver that is in a loadable module, then no the device won't work
[16:06] <frnk> and apt-get -f install, wont fix that broken system?
[16:06] <krababbel> petar_: noone here can see what you saw, so if you got problems with some package, pastebin the error, and  your config, so someone can help
[16:06] <TJ-> iceroot: Sounds like its not restoring from the hardware RTC ... is the RTC battery OK?
[16:07] <zykotick9> Maverick_: sorry i can't help you - you need to be more clear what you want to do.  best of luck (don't reply to me further, i won't see it)
[16:07] <iceroot> TJ-: its restoring but it will take up to 60 seconds
[16:07] <Maverick_> zykotick9: i got difficulties accessing it through my browser coz i have unstable internet connection.
[16:07] <roy___> TJ-: and apparently there's no internet connection either in just the terminal
[16:07] <TJ-> iceroot: is the RTC on a non-standard bus or I2C that forces a wait, I wonder?
[16:07] <iceroot> TJ-: let me correct that, the time-applet in the panel needs up to 60 seconds
[16:07] <petar_> krababbel, http://pastebin.com/z34KQwvU this is the error i get in the syslog
[16:08] <iceroot> TJ-: "date" itself is fine directly after suspend
[16:08] <TJ-> iceroot: So, not a kernel issue as such, more a user-space application getting confused
[16:08] <TJ-> iceroot: in that case post the bug report against the applet's package
[16:08] <iceroot> TJ-: but i dont think the applet knows its back from suspend so there should be something trigger it
[16:08] <krababbel> petar_: looks like it is configured to ignore eth1, so read the manual of dhcp3 to enable
[16:09] <Jan_> And can i modify the size of the swap partition after the instalation?
[16:09] <TJ-> iceroot: With suspend... all user-space processes are frozen - they don't really know they've stopped (but a time-based app might notice a big jump since it last checked and get confused)
[16:09] <TJ-> Jan_: If you put swap in an LVM LV, yes
[16:09] <Jan_> i've selected lvm so i think it will make a swap itself right?
[16:09] <Jan_> did not had an option
[16:10] <iceroot> TJ-: its resyncing fine but only after up to 60 seconds because that is the default to check again the time if it is still sync, so the kernel is telling the userland we are back from suspend? is there nothing between that? (dbus or something like that)
[16:10] <TJ-> roy___: Sounds like that system has somehow started into an incompletely installed environment. /lib/modules/ should contains a directory for each installed kernel containing the modules, symbols, aliases etc.
[16:10] <vman> Jan, you can also add a swap file
[16:10] <adib> im on an macbook 8.1 mid/late 2011 with ubuntu 12.04, if i connect an second screen the resolution is not what it is supposed to be and i cant change it normally, trough googling i found out i had to edit xorg.conf, but someone in this channel told me to not to and to upgrade graphics card driver, which is Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB of DDR3. anyone can help me update/install the driver?
[16:10] <Jan_> ok will try it out
[16:11] <petar_> krababbel, http://pastebin.com/74rDpq70 my /etc/default/dhcp3-server config file. i've lised eth1 there
[16:11] <TJ-> iceroot: I'm not too familiar with the intricacies of the applet
[16:11] <roy___> TJ-: guess i'm out of options here
[16:11] <krababbel> petar_: sorry, I don't know dhcp3 server
[16:11] <iceroot> TJ-: no problem, i will report it against the applet and i guess someone will change the affecting package if needed
[16:11] <petar_> krababbel, okey, thanks anyway :)
[16:11] <roy___> TJ-: the files are there but i won't ever be able to put them on my usb stick
[16:11] <CarlFK> "no google drive for linux"  http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/drive/j_SmC6bMsEo
[16:12] <krababbel> petar_: the isc-dhcp server should work, as well as dnsmasq, which is dns proxy and dhcp server in one package
[16:12] <TJ-> adib: The installed driver will be the one shipped with the kernel for modesetting, and with Xorg for X. I'd think it's an issue with the 2nd display not correctly reporting its EDID to the driver. Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log that will spell out what the driver found
[16:12] <adib> uhhm TJ- im kinda new to those things, mind explaining further?
[16:12] <TJ-> roy___: "usb_storage" is the module used to handle USB media storage devices
[16:13] <roy___> TJ-: as i can't get back in gnome .. and no internet means i won't be able to install modules
[16:13] <frnk> is there any possibility to force-install "apt-get install zip", even on my broken system? as zip wont have to many dependencies anyway?
[16:13] <petar_> krababbel, okey, do you have experience with those?
[16:13] <TJ-> adib: EDID is Extended Display Interface Data (or somesuch!) and it is a data structure from the monitor to the graphics device telling it all the valid modes and timing of signals it can accept. Sometimes that is not correct or corrupted and confuses the driver.
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> frnk: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a     Thanks
[16:14] <TJ-> roy___: I'm a bit lost as to what the origins of your issue are! Can you explain the background for me please?
[16:15] <adib> okay TJ-  what should i find in /var/log/xorg.o.log? could you give me a example on how the line should look like?
[16:16] <frnk> yep, its here: http://pastebin.com/aQjfE2CF
[16:16] <adib> or should i post the whole log to pastebin?
[16:16] <CarlFK> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/insync-brings-google-drive-to-ubuntu   "Download the Insync.tar.gz via this link"  Is there a PPA with this?
[16:16] <roy___> TJ-: i shutdown my laptop with the power button ... then i got all kinds of errors trying to boot, so i boot in recovery mode and ran fsck in a root terminal .. it fixed a bunch of errors .. after which i could boot normally, but i get an error about graphics configuration , then it drops back to terminal mode
[16:16] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: re:frnk after mixing repos, that's not going to give an accurate picture
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> frnk: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: oh yeah
[16:17] <TJ-> roy___: Ahhhh! thank you. Let me (and others) think about it (my head is in a spin right now with issues locally!)
[16:17] <frnk> thanks,
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> frnk: you are using Hardy, you have changed your repos to Precise (for some reason and is unsupported)
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> frnk: I suggest you reinstall with Precise.
[16:18] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: +1 frnk
[16:18] <roy___> TJ-: there are some files on there i would like to copy to usb , so i could reinstall ubuntu
[16:18] <roy___> TJ-: Sure ...
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> frnk: that command wil import the key you missed but what you are doing is not advised or supported and will make a massive mwess of your OS
[16:19] <TJ-> roy___: OK, I get what you're after now. It sounds as if during recovery of the file-system some of the files that had been damaged include some key system files.
[16:19] <krababbel> petar_: the isc package is easy, just comment out the lines you need in the provided config
[16:20] <frnk> ok, I'll reinstall ... on one of the next nights!!   .. but still: can I somehow forceinstall ZIP?
[16:20] <zykotick9> frnk: with a broken package system, i highly doubt it.
[16:20] <roy___> TJ-: so i assume there's not much i can do right ?
[16:20] <TJ-> roy___:  Does this report information about the module? "modinfo usb_storage"  . If it does, you ought to be able to do "sudo modprobe usb_storage" to load that module, which would then let the system recognise the USB storage
[16:20] <frnk> ok
[16:20] <sudosuka> hello all, i've a netbook with intel atom processor and 1 GB of RAM. I tried to install an antivirus (bitdefender for unices) but it goes crashes everytime i started the AV. what's wrong with this?
[16:21] <zykotick9> !virus | sudosuka
[16:21] <DX099> hello, How do I properly remove old kernels when they won't be listed by any of my packages managers ?
[16:21] <chemaher76> Hi
[16:21] <frnk> so thanks to everyone
[16:21] <chemaher76> I have a problem with my laptop and play Spiral Knights on Linux. Overheats and turns itself off in windows 7 fails, idk if it is due to the configuration of the notebook's power or my distro Xubuntu.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> frnk: you could download the deb and extract it and copy the data to the right places....
[16:21] <jrib> frnk: try just using dpkg if you *really* need zip just now
[16:21] <adib> TJ-: what should i look for in xorg.o.log? or should i paste it all to pastebin?
[16:21] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: nice!
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: messy, but works
[16:21] <TJ-> roy___: I've reinstalled Ubuntu in that same situation using what's called a "chroot" but that does really require some expertise to know what to do with it
[16:22] <chemaher76> econimizador any energy or optimizer for xubuntu??
[16:22] <roy___> TJ-: it says modinfo could not open /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic-pae/modules.dep
[16:22] <TJ-> adib: Look for the entries that show the external monitor has been found, and whether it provides a valid EDID, and what modelines it claims to support, and finally, what mode the driver chose to use on that display (and yes, pastebin it)
[16:23] <TJ-> roy___: OK, so that confirms what I thought earlier. If we can regain network than you could try reinstalling just the affected packages
[16:23] <zykotick9> frnk: jrib might have given you a much easier solution
[16:23] <TJ-> roy___: Do you get any interfaces other than "lo" listed if you do "ifconfig" ?
[16:23] <sudosuka> ubottu: I connected my netbook to a PC with win7 in my home. Is there any better choice of AV for my ubuntu?
[16:24] <roy___> TJ-: yes eth0
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> sudosuka, ubottu is a bot look at the link it gave you.
[16:25] <php> hi
[16:25] <php> anyone??
[16:25] <php> anyone
[16:25] <php> ???
[16:25] <php> need help
[16:25] <DJones> !anyone | php
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> php, This works in that you ask your question for responses.
[16:25] <TJ-> roy___: That's good news... it means the kernel can work with that device. Is there a network cable plugged in, and do you connect to a typical home router that gives out IP addresses using DHCP?
[16:26] <php> i am facing a issue when istalling my CCNA simulator
[16:26] <php> i am getting the beloq message
[16:26] <sudosuka> wilee-nilee :) I'm newbie so i didn't know it before. thx for informing me.
[16:26] <php> below*
[16:26] <php> Archive:  /media/MCGRAWHILL/Install/MH_Netsim.exe [/media/MCGRAWHILL/Install/MH_Netsim.exe]   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on   the last disk(s) of this archive. zipinfo:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /media/MCGRAWHILL/Install/MH_Netsim.exe or   
[16:27] <roy___> TJ-: well i got a network cable plugged in on this computer i'm on now, the laptop with ubuntu installed has also WIFI which i used
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> sudosuka, hehe easy mistake. ;)
[16:27] <DX099> hello, How do I properly remove old kernels when they won't be listed by any of my packages managers ?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> php: you need to mount the device executable so you can run the apps on it
[16:27] <roy___> TJ-: i mean thats what ubuntu automatically detected when everything still worked
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> DX099: can you give a pastebin of:  uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image      Thanks
[16:28] <TJ-> roy___: OK, that's good to know
[16:28] <roy___> TJ-: i could also try plugging in a network cable but then i won't have internet connection on this computer i am now ... so before i do i guess i should know what to do next . if it works that is ...
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> DX099, you can remove them from synaptic if you install it but ubuntu tweak a 3rd party app has a janitor that does it nicely.
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> or from a terminal.
[16:28] <TJ-> roy___: It might just be a case of starting that interface... try this "sudo ifup eth0"
[16:29] <TJ-> roy___: Then recheck with "ifconfig" after a few moments to see if eth0 has been assigned an IP address
[16:29] <DX099> wilee-nilee, when I said any of my packages managers, I was thinking about Synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, or even dpkg
[16:29] <php> Action:   how to mount the application
[16:29] <roy___> TJ-: it says .. Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> DX099, should be synaptic you just have to know how to look.
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> aptitude is deprecated I would not use it
[16:31] <ratcheer> Yes. I prefer aptitude, but I had to learn apt-get.
[16:31] <TJ-> roy___: OK, we do it another way then "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> php:  you don't, its a Windows application.  and "mount" is not the correct word.
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> !wine | php
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> php:  you use wine.
[16:31] <TJ-> roy___: check with "ifconfig" after a few seconds
[16:32] <DX099> wilee-nilee, handles dependencies too well. And no, even looking locally, it's not in Synaptic, though grub clearly list them.
[16:32] <DX099> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191150/
[16:32] <testi> How do you disable vsync in the composition engine of gnome-shell?
[16:32] <roy___> TJ-: no errors, but also ifconfig shows no ip adress assigned
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> DX099: gimme a sec
[16:34] <TJ-> roy___: OK... lets dig some more. What *should* have happened is that the DHCP client on that PC should have been told to attach to eth0 and request a DHCP lease... so we'll check whether the DHCP client has been damaged by the disk corruption
[16:34] <roy___> TJ-: allright
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> DX099: http://pastie.org/4680820    will help clear up
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> DX099: will leave you 2 kernels
[16:37] <TJ-> roy___: researching what you need to do here, will be back shortly
[16:37] <roy___> TJ-: sure thanks
[16:37] <krababbel> q/qui
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, hehe some upgrade left behind kernels. ;)'
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: yeah annoying stuff but easy to clean
[16:40] <DX099> ActionParsnip, I whished so  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191167/
[16:41] <rfernandes> my laptop does not come back from suspend mode
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, I saved that command to find them, hehe.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> DX099: yes it will regenerate grub each time, removing the old kernels stuff
[16:41] <DX099> ActionParsnip, this is  `update-grub' I ran AFTER your clean up command
[16:42] <DX099> sorry didn't put command line
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> DX099: just run each command in turn, the commands are wordwrapped so I left a blank line between each one
[16:47] <DX099> ActionParsnip, I put a ';' between each of them before running the whole... will it change anything ?
[16:47] <protoCall7> Does anyone know if these log messages are normal or not: Sep  7 08:02:33 rarch-002 sshd[5335]: Connection closed by 10.30.0.123 [preauth]
[16:48] <DX099> ActionParsnip, besides, your commands target kernel > 3.0 , and the old kernels stuck on my system are 2.6.x , will it work ?
[16:50] <TJ-> roy___: I accidentally disconnected myself whilst testing that command! sorry
[16:50] <TJ-> roy___: Let's try requesting an IP manually and enabling verbose reporting... "sudo dhclient -v eth0"
[16:50] <yondering> I have a question.. I'm using a slightly older PC with xubuntu 12.04 installed.  It's got an Asus Xonar d1 sound card..  alsamixer sees the sound card just fine when I check it from a terminal, but it appears pulseaudio does not 'see' the card.  any ideas?
[16:50] <roy___> TJ-: ok
[16:51] <roy___> TJ-: it returns a number of lines still busy , all say DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 and then interval a couple of different numbers
[16:52] <roy___> TJ-: its still going
[16:54] <TJ-> roy___: OK ... it's is expecting replies and not getting any. That suggests the device on the other end of the cable isn't replying
[16:54] <roy___> TJ-: mind you there is no cable plugged in ... only wifi
[16:55] <roy___> TJ-: i could try connection the cable i have on this computer .. to the laptop see if that works ?
[16:56] <ben007> #list
[16:58] <roy___> TJ-: "connecting"
[16:58] <sokel> roy___: As far as I can tell, it's the client end. Try a cable. I never use wireless and one PC faces that same issue. A complete power down and removal of ALL power sources for a few minutes fixes it.
[16:58] <TJ-> roy___: It's possible that "eth0" really represents a wireless connection (which would usually be wlan0) which might explain why it can't contact the other end. Let's check. do "iwconfig" and see if eth0 is reported as a wireless connection
[16:58] <roy___> TJ-: eth0 says no wireless extensions
[16:59] <TJ-> roy___: OK, that's good then, it is wired so we're not wasting our time
[16:59] <sokel> Exactly. It never should. If a system ever reports eth0 as wireless, something is WRONG with the system.
[16:59] <roy___> TJ-: i could try the cable if it works ... i could get back here on my ipad and figure stuff out
[16:59] <TJ-> sokel: Not at all; some wifi drivers end up presenting as a typical wired device
[16:59] <TJ-> roy___: If you could test the cable to prove it, that would be great
[17:00] <roy___> alright bb
[17:00] <sokel> Funny. Never had that happen and if it does, that's a problem with udev.
[17:00] <roy___> brb
[17:02] <Gycklarn> I want to set a custom prompt in my terminal. It's worked great earlier, when I used Putty on a Windows machine, but when I use a Ubuntu environment the characters become scrambled where the color of the text changes. Anyone know why? It probably hass something to do with character encoding, but I can't for the life of me figure out what the cause is.
[17:03] <Gycklarn> It DOES work when I use screen with UTF-8 encoding
[17:06] <nesh> Hi, Im trying to develop an app in python that needs knowledge of what user types in any application and it should also be able to insert the words where required .. can you suggest me an approach?
[17:11] <NKjoep> hi all
[17:12] <protoCall7> Hi
[17:13] <Gycklarn> Regarding my problem mentioned above, this is how the two variants look
[17:14] <Gycklarn> http://i.imgur.com/P0dWe.png
[17:14] <Gycklarn> http://i.imgur.com/Avm7W.png
[17:14] <Gycklarn> Any help is appreciated.
[17:16] <Mir09> Gycklarn, what is the problem?
[17:17] <madcow_2> I'm after some help with init.d/upstart - I've got a ruby application I want running all the time, but to start it i need to execute the command in a terminal.. i just want to run it all the time and upstart/init.d confuses the shit out of me - ideas? I've only got terminal access.. the command i need to run is "compass watch"
[17:17] <Gycklarn> Mir09, Well, when I use a terminal with my custom prompt, I get all those scrambled characters
[17:17] <Gycklarn> the "correct" variant is from when I ssh into a server and use screen -U
[17:18] <Nordom> I am a ubuntu nub (started today) having problems with my mouse http://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/using-the-cyborg-r-a-t-7-with-ubuntu/ shows me how to do it but when I type sudo gedit for the xorg.conf nothing happens
[17:18] <Gycklarn> And I want to know how to fix this without using screen
[17:18] <roy___> eeehm
[17:18] <Nordom> can someone walk me through it? you type the sudo commands into alt+f2 commands no?
[17:18] <roy___> yeah it worked
[17:19] <roy___> i'm on irr
[17:19] <roy___> im irssi now on the laptop
[17:19] <Mir09> madcow_2, /init.d made the script work on boot
[17:19] <roy___> TJ gone ?
[17:19] <TJ-> roy___: Nice one! was it the cable then?
[17:19] <MB_wrk> Okay, so I installed LAMP. And now installed phpmyadmin. I can get to the server, but server/phpmyadmin fails
[17:19] <roy___> TJ-: Ah hey, ... yeah !
[17:20] <TJ-> roy___: I've learned through wasting time always check the cables first :p
[17:20] <Mir09> Gycklarn, have you the corect language support install?
[17:21] <roy___> TJ-: so now i should be able to install those modules required for reading the usb stick ?
[17:21] <roy___> TJ-: or even WIFI
[17:21] <Nordom> having problems with my mouse http://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/using-the-cyborg-r-a-t-7-with-ubuntu/ shows me how to do it but when I type sudo gedit for the xorg.conf nothing happens
[17:21] <Gycklarn> No idea, honestly.
[17:21] <TJ-> roy___: OK, let's see what we can do to get it sorted. First I think we'll attempt to install the pastebinit program so you can auto-pastebin output of commands for me to read. That'll save a lot of time and confusion. It'll also allow us to test if the package installer system is damaged or not
[17:22] <TJ-> roy___: I'm hoping we can fix the while thing without you needing to do a reinstall
[17:22] <TJ-> roy___: try this: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[17:22] <roy___> TJ-: alright .. i can open other terminals besides this one right ?
[17:22] <TJ-> roy___: Sure
[17:22] <DX099> ActionParsnip, hmm, so no clue at all ?
[17:22] <TJ-> roy___: Use Alt+Ctrl+F1 through F6 I think should all have terminals on them... check
[17:23] <Mir09> Gycklarn, because seems to be your terminal not write just some character
[17:24] <Gycklarn> Nordom, define "nothing". Nothing at all? To error message?
[17:24] <roy___> TJ-: sudo apt-get install pastebin , you said ?  ... i don't know how to scroll back text in this client ;(
[17:24] <TJ-> roy___: try this: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[17:24] <roy___> TJ-: ok, i did that
[17:24] <roy___> TJ-: its installed now
[17:25] <fsgdfgdf>  /budus macro xdcc d 21
[17:25] <afloater> I installed 12.04. When I connect to a dhcp server, it changes my nameserver in resolv.conf to localhost (127.0.0.1). Anyone know why?
[17:25] <Mir09> Gycklarn, read this.. maybe help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/87227/switch-encoding-of-terminal-with-a-command
[17:25] <TJ-> roy___: OK, that tells us we can probably trust the packge-manager too
[17:26] <Gycklarn> Mir09, I'll take a look, thanks
[17:26] <roy___> TJ-: yeah i used the packet manager to install irssi too
[17:26] <TJ-> roy___: let's get a report of what kernel packages are installed that may need reinstalling: "dpkg-query -l 'linux-*' | pastebinit"
[17:26] <Mir09> Gycklarn, :)
[17:26] <Gycklarn> Nordom, Uh, obviously I meant "No error message?"
[17:27] <paulus68> #acer-liquid
[17:27] <Mir09> Gycklarn, because I think your is a encoding character problem
[17:28] <tomreyn> TJ-: i think you missed a dash in the end there
[17:29] <krababbel> afloater: isn't that a caching dns on your lan?
[17:29] <TJ-> tomreyn: where?
[17:29] <tomreyn> pastebinit -
[17:29] <tomreyn> that's unless pastebinit now takes input from stdin by default
[17:29] <TJ-> tomreyn: why? pastebinit reads stdin by default
[17:30] <tomreyn> sorry then, i think it didn't in the past
[17:30] <roy___> TJ-: for some reason i can't type the bar character it does a > instead
[17:30] <TJ-> tomreyn: if it didn't used to, that would be before I started using it :p
[17:30] <tomreyn> could be, it's been a while
[17:30] <TJ-> roy___: That's the keyboard map not quite right ... explore your keyboard for which key it's on :D
[17:30] <roy___> TJ-: perhaps the keyboard needs to be reconfigured ?
[17:30] <roy___> TJ-: i don't think its on any key
[17:31] <TJ-> roy___: Usually it moves to the ~# key or similar, sometimes to the `¬ key top-left too
[17:31] <TJ-> roy___: we'll fix the keyboard later... it's not too important right now
[17:32] <roy___> TJ-: ok, .. well its on none of those keys
[17:33] <TJ-> roy___: OK, try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and select the correct languages etc.
[17:33] <TJ-> roy___: If that doesn't work, try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[17:34] <roy___> 62
[17:34] <roy___> OK
[17:34] <BebopSteve> Whenever I open gimp, the toolbox panel's title bars constantly are underneath my top panel in ubuntu 12.04 and it is very frustrating because I cannot move or resize them, how do I fix this?
[17:35] <shihan> if you hold down alt and click on a window, you can drag it that way if that helps?
[17:35] <TJ-> BebopSteve: Press Alt+Space whilst that window has focus, and then choose "Move" and use cursor keys to move it down. It *ought* then to 'remember' the position and not go under the menu-bar in future
[17:37] <BebopSteve> Thanks guys for the quick answers, just saved my life
[17:37] <BebopSteve> Was about to seppuku
[17:37] <roy___> TJ-: not sure what to pick, i'm on a sony vaio laptop
[17:37] <TJ-> roy___: UK keyboard?
[17:37] <unless> Is there a way to save a complete CD with VLC automatically with musica names and so on?
[17:37] <roy___> TJ-: its old like 6 years .. well i live in holland, but i suppose its UK ...
[17:38] <TJ-> roy___: I have one right next to me; let me find out what its set to... which model is it?
[17:38] <BebopSteve> Additional question:  Is there a way to tell gimp to be always on top?  Would make file selection in this folder a lot easier
[17:39] <TJ-> roy___: did you do the "keyboard-configuration" command?
[17:39] <roy___> TJ-: pcg 382M
[17:39] <roy___> TJ-: yeah
[17:40] <TJ-> roy___: On my Vaio VGN-FE41Z it has "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
[17:40] <roy___> TJ-: ah that is VGN-FZ11E
[17:40] <TJ-> roy___: press TAB to move to the OK/Cancel buttons
[17:40] <TJ-> roy___: Then you can select language
[17:40] <roy___> TJ-: ok english uk ?
[17:41] <geekman> pas de francais --'
[17:41] <roy___> TJ-: english uk international with dead keys ..
[17:41] <fission6> i have a dual boot desktop, ubuntu and windows - i am going to donate the machine but i'd like to completely erase all data, any recommendations
[17:41] <TJ-> roy___: If you've got the Sterling sign for shifted 3 (or Euro)
[17:42] <roy___> TJ-: oh yes, i do
[17:42] <roy___> TJ-: with dead keys ?
[17:42] <TJ-> roy___: Mine was set to "English (UK)"
[17:43] <roy___> TJ-: |||
[17:43] <roy___> TJ-: yeah its back :)
[17:43] <TJ-> roy___: Yay!
[17:43] <TJ-> roy___: So, back to "dpkg-query -l 'linux-*' | pastebinit"
[17:44] <Gycklarn> fission6, shred
[17:45] <BebopSteve> Nevermind, figured it out.  :)
[17:45] <roy___> TJ-: ok i did
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: did you clear up the kernels ok?
[17:45] <TJ-> roy___: It'll show you a URL, you need to provide that to me now
[17:45] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: We're about to. I'm just finding out what linux packages are installed :)
[17:46] <roy___> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191265/
[17:46] <TJ-> roy___: thanks
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: if you use:  sudo dpkg -P     the packages with the 'rc' at the start it will get rid of them
[17:46] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: Dont' want to remove anything!
[17:46] <TJ-> roy___: OK, so you're got a 32-bit PAE kernel
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: why, its old configs, they do nothing for you
[17:47] <roy___> TJ-: ok
[17:47] <truexfan81> does atheros wireless network adapter ar24x  work with 12.04? or are proprietary drivers needed?
[17:47] <roy___> TJ-: PAE is just regular ?
[17:48] <TJ-> roy___: Now we'll reinstall the kernel packages using "sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic-pae linux-headers-3.2.0-23 linux-firmware  linux-headers-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae"
[17:49] <TJ-> roy___: PAE is Processor Address Extensions - it allows a 32-bit system to address more than 4GB of address space in total, although each application is restricted to 4GB itself
[17:50] <TJ-> roy___: In another terminal whilst that installer is running can you pastebin me this: "lspci -nn | pastebinit"
[17:50] <roy___> TJ-: ok
[17:52] <roy___> TJ-: could you give me that 1st line again .. i think i got something wrong
[17:52] <alecb> I just got a thinkpad t430 and I'm having some wireless issues. when I boot, I'm able to connect to a wireless network, but after ~10 mins, I lose my connection (and it's sort of shaky for those 10 mins as well) and I can't reconnect to any network after that. however, if I reboot, I connect fine. I also am able to connect well to my personal wifi network when I'm at home. the public networks that don't work well in ubuntu _do_ work i
[17:53] <alecb> any ideas?
[17:53] <roy___> TJ-: ow nevermind i know how to scroll this page now ;)
[17:54] <TJ-> roy___: You'll have to teach me how :D
[17:59] <tomreyn> alecb: sounds like you may be missing some firmware blob
[17:59] <roy___> TJ-: ok done & done, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191291/
[18:00] <TJ-> roy___: OK, it has an Nvidia video chipset. So as you reported video failed lets reinstall the nvidia driver (I assume you were using the proprietary Nvidia driver previously) ?
[18:00] <roy___> TJ-: i have no idea, i just installed ubuntu and it all worked automatically
[18:00] <Sabari1> Hi
[18:01] <TJ-> roy___: Usually you'd know if you'd chosen to install the proprietary drivers since it asks you if you want them
[18:01] <Sabari1> I have 12.04 installed in my Desktop
[18:01] <TJ-> roy___: We'd best check: "dpkg-query -l 'nvidia*' | pastebinit"
[18:01] <roy___> TJ-: i'm not sure .. if it did i can't remember
[18:01] <roy___> ok
[18:01] <Sabari1> Whenever I try to copy files to my USB Hard  disl
[18:01] <Sabari1> The hard disk is frequently getting unmounted
[18:01] <alecb> tomreyn: not all that hardware-versed -- what's a firmware blob/how would I fix that?
[18:02] <Sabari1> and getting remounted
[18:02] <TJ-> Sabari1: Often that happens if the USB device is being starved of power under load. Verify that the HDD is getting sufficient power from its external power source
[18:02] <luftikuss> How can I make Nautilus on an Ubuntu 12.04 Live CD show the properties of the current file?
[18:03] <Sabari1> It is getting it via USB, I tried Changing cables but no luck
[18:03] <TJ-> luftikuss: right-click the file and choose Properties
[18:03] <Ihsan_> Hi
[18:03] <Sabari1> same cable and hard disk working fine in other ubuntu desktops
[18:03] <roy___> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191302/
[18:03] <Sabari1> ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
[18:03] <TJ-> Sabari1: That may be the problem... the port on the PC might not be able to provide as much power as it needs
[18:03] <roy___> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191302/
[18:03] <Ihsan_> I need help on my fresh installed Ubuntu, am I on the right place?
[18:03] <Sabari1> This is the error that I see
[18:03] <luftikuss> TJ-: Yes, this works. Thank you very much for your help.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: yes, ask away
[18:04] <pozop> Ihsan_: what's your question?
[18:04] <roy___> ooops
[18:04] <TJ-> roy___: thanks... I'll need some more checks to find out whether the nvidia driver was selected for use... hang on a mo!
[18:04] <roy___> sure
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Sabari1: what format is the partition?
[18:04] <Sabari1> and also this kernel: [27134.892092] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdc]  Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[18:04] <Sabari1> It is ntfs
[18:04] <tomreyn> alecb: while thre are linux drivers available for many devices, some require a proprietary and closed source portion to operate a device properly or at full performance
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Sabari1: safetly remove the device, try a different USB port
[18:05] <Ihsan_> I was using Windows 7 as my primary OS, I also made a second partition and protected it with Bitlocker, now I deleted Windows 7 OS and installed Ubuntu as my primary OS. I tried to find my second partition, but it's invisible, I cant find it anywhere. Is it because bitlocker? How can I get it back without damaging the sensitive data in it?
[18:05] <alecb> tomreyn: oh, ok, so I just need to get the proprietary drivers?
[18:05] <alecb> tomreyn: (or should try that?)
[18:05] <Sabari1> Tried all the available ports. No luck
[18:05] <TJ-> roy___: Give me "jockey-text -l | pastebinit"
[18:05] <unless> I am about to ./configure a application install path. Could someone help me to figure a common directory to install applications please? In this case I am installing LAM/MPI.
[18:06] <pozop> Ihsan_: i know nothing about win7 or bitlocker
[18:06] <TJ-> Sabari1: It's a hard one. If it works on other PCs but has this glitch locally, I'd always suspect the USB ports. Do you have any external power you can provide to the disk ?
[18:06] <Ihsan_> well :(
[18:06] <Ihsan_> Does anyone know ?
[18:06] <TJ-> Sabari1: That log entry doesn't give us anything specific to suspect another cause right now
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: do you just want to use the other partition for data storage?
[18:06] <Ihsan_> Yes
[18:06] <hfic> Ihsan_, are you sure the other partition didn't get wiped when you installed ubuntu?
[18:06] <tomreyn> alecb: those firmware blobs are packaged, so you just need to install an additional package if my guess is right. the other option would be that your device is just not fully supported or that the driver needs to be passed a load-time option for the device to operate properly
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: patience child, you won't get a reply that fast
[18:07] <Ihsan_> My school materials are in the second partition, and no itś not wiped
[18:07] <JoaoSantana> Hi ALL
[18:07] <TJ-> Ihsan_: I'd be asking the bitlocker people
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: then use gparted and delete the NTFS partition and reformat it to Ext4 and you can use it as data storage
[18:07] <Ihsan_> Okay thank you :)
[18:07] <roy___> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191310/
[18:07] <Ihsan_> But there are data in it, thats the problem
[18:07] <tomreyn> alecb: there are several submodels of t430 so unless you provide more information i couldn't be more specific.
[18:07] <Ihsan_> I need to get the partition back without damaging
[18:07] <bekks> Ihsan_: You bitlocked a partition and deleted the Win7 OS afterwards? In that case, your data is lost.
[18:08] <Ihsan_> OH
[18:08] <Sabari1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191311/
[18:08] <Sabari1> Entire log
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: then you may need to ask in ##windows to find out how this can be accessed. Why do you not have a backup of the data?
[18:08] <TJ-> Ihsan_: Google search tells me you can use dislocker: http://www.hsc.fr/ressources/outils/dislocker/download/
[18:08] <hfic> bekks, is this conjecture or fact?
[18:08] <Ihsan_> Yeah I tried that, but I don really understand I get an error
[18:08] <roy___> TJ-: well the usb device is working again in any case
[18:08] <Ihsan_> do you support that also to help me with it?
[18:09] <TJ-> roy___: That's great ... you're using the open-source nvidia driver so that was included in those kernel reinstalls
[18:09] <TJ-> roy___: That's because you've reinstalled the kernel files
[18:09] <Sabari1> TJ : Is this some thing related to this http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=145770
[18:09] <pozop> Ihsan_: can you see the partition in gparted or any
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/21580-63-recognize-bitlocker-disk-ubuntu   seems you will need another windows PC to access the data.
[18:10] <pozop> other partitioning program?
[18:10] <Ihsan_> Yes I can see it
[18:10] <alecb> tomreyn: ie, the nic brand/model? windows tells me I have an intel 82579LM
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: its a windows app so you wil need windows help
[18:10] <Ihsan_> I saw the partition, with the same size and it is protected trough TRUESCRYPT
[18:10] <Ihsan_> :)
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: http://superuser.com/questions/31649/will-bitlocker-make-it-impossible-to-read-my-files-from-my-dual-booting-ubuntu-o#31658    may help
[18:10] <tomreyn> alecb: start a terminal window and type this: lsusb | pastebinit
[18:10] <bekks> hfic: At least I never heard of someone recovering a lost bitlocker partition successfully.
[18:10] <TJ-> roy___: And, I think, you should try rebooting that PC now ... you might find it'll get you into the GUI. There might be residual issues to take care of. If at any time a file fails, discover which package provides it using "dpkg-query -S <filename>", and then reinstall the reported package with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>"
[18:10] <Ihsan_> Thank you i will look at it now
[18:10] <tomreyn> alecb: then paste the internet address it returns to you here
[18:11] <roy___> TJ-: ok thanks a lot, i'll try and see what it does ...
[18:11] <tomreyn> alecb: 82579LM is ehternet, so wired internet. your issue is about wireless if i got you correctly
[18:11] <Sabari1> TJ: Got  a chance to look at the entire log
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrueCrypt
[18:11] <TJ-> Sabari1: Does it revela anything
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: again, why is there no cleardata backup?
[18:12] <Ihsan_> cleardata backup?
[18:12] <Ihsan_> What do you actually mean by that?
[18:12] <Sabari1> TJ:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191311/
[18:12] <Ihsan_> I tried encrypting it with Truecrypt, but it said that it was not made with truecrypt
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: a copy of the data without encyption on it
[18:12] <Sabari1> This says failed to read index block
[18:13] <TJ-> Sabari1: I saw one mention in that tread you provided, along with USB power, that echi was dropped in favour of ohci. However, that was back in 2008 when we did have conflicts between them. That's no longer the case and the drivers are builtin to the kernel image
[18:13] <Ihsan_> No, I don have it
[18:13] <Ihsan_> :(
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: but why not?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: what if the drive died..where is your data?
[18:14] <alecb> tomreyn: oh, whoops. the only other network device windows tells me about doesn't give a brand/model number. it's just "1x1 1b/g/n Wireless LAN PCI Express half mini card adapter", says the maunfacturer is lenovo. if I get a chance I'll switch back to ubuntu and see what lsusb tells me
[18:14] <Ihsan_> No where actually,
[18:14] <Ihsan_> I was planning on buying a extern hdd
[18:14] <roy__> TJ-: excellent its all fine now
[18:15] <tomreyn> alecb: sounds like a plan
[18:15] <Ihsan_> TrueCrypt says to me: Incorrent password or not a TrueCrypt volume.
[18:15] <TJ-> roy__: Fantastic. Remember/record what I said about how to reinstall any packages you discover problems with
[18:15] <roy__> TJ-: yeah
[18:17] <TJ-> roy__: And back-up your important data!
[18:17] <ranveer5289> alecb: Also tell us the output of lspci | grep Wireless.
[18:17] <alecb_> tomreyn: stole a nearby public desktop -- switching to ubuntu on my t430
[18:18] <Mike2012> hi anyone here... i have a question
[18:18] <jrib> !ask | Mike2012
[18:18] <roy__> TJ-: yes
[18:19] <Mike2012> sorry. I just installed ubuntu on my hp mini netbook yesterday, and the battery level meter is not working properly/the netbook seems to only last an hour on battery and im wondering what to do to troubleshoot it...
[18:20] <mathi> hello
[18:21] <mathi> I am quite new to Ubuntu, I don't understand how to have a list of my applications (the equivalent in Windows XP would be Start/All programs)
[18:23] <krababbel> mathi: that actually depends on the desktop you use, but there is a standard, using /usr/share/applications/ I think
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> mathi  in unity, it's called dash, up, left
[18:23] <alecb_> tomreyn: lsusb gives pastebin.com/STFmbR7B
[18:23] <mathi> dash? how does the icon look like? a white circle on black background ?
[18:24] <yshavit> I'm running Ubuntu 12 (w/ gnome-shell) in a VMWare session. The host machine is a Mac laptop, and the command key on the keyboard is (correctly) mapped to the Super key. However, I'm also using a wireless keyboard meant for Windows, and I'd like the Windows key to map to Super in Linux. Sometimes it does, but sometimes it doesn't -- I can't figure out the pattern. Any ideas how I can track this down?
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> mathi  click here and there and see what appears
[18:24] <Ihsan_> I did the command sudo make install with 'Dislocker', on the readme it says
[18:25] <Ihsan_> Once installed, see diclocker(1) for details on hwo to use
[18:25] <Ihsan_> but I dont know what to do now :(
[18:25] <zykotick9> Ihsan_: try "man dislocker"
[18:25] <einonm> Ihsan_: or "man 1 dislocker"
[18:25] <Bims> my ps/2 mouse does no longer work after upgrade. has ps/2 been disabled in ubuntu's current kernel?
[18:26] <zykotick9> einonm: using "man dislocker" is the same as "man 1 dislocker" (in the 1 case)
[18:26] <debbox> hello. does anybody use pmount? whenever i try to 'pmount -w /dev/sdb1' i get 'mount: warning: /media/sdb1 seems to be mounted read-only'
[18:27] <mathi> krababbel: in this folder I have a list of applications with .desktop extension, is this normal?
[18:28] <Bims> my ps/2 mouse doesnt even blink when i start x
[18:29] <FlowRiser> mathi: ".desktop" files are not applications they are shortcuts to bin files
[18:29] <makezan> hey guys i'm trying to setup x11vnc with ssl, but I seem to be having a little problem.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/185223/x11vnc-with-ssl-and-certification-problem-unable-to-get-local-issuer-cert
[18:29] <tomreyn> alecb_: ok, please do this next: lspci -knn | grep -iA3 Wireless | pastebinit
[18:30] <Ihsan_> Is it normal that it will take long after using this command: sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=encrypted.bitlocker
[18:31] <yshavit> My Super key issue seems to be somehow related to caps lock -- anyone seen that before?
[18:31] <alecb_> tomreyn: s/Wireless/Wifi? the former doesn't give me anything
[18:31] <pozop>  bit depth in audio. I imported 16 bit  audio into Audacity. My Audacity has 32 bit set as default. Now I have realised that. Can I just change the audacity settings down to 16 bit?
[18:31] <unless> How do I install Fortram compiler at Ubuntu?
[18:32] <dr_willis> Ihsan_:  totally depends on the size of sda1 and the speeds of the drives..
[18:32] <Ihsan_> Oh, so I just need to wait allright then :)
[18:33] <dr_willis> Ihsan_:  such a command could take several hours if its a very large hd.
[18:33] <tomreyn> alecb_: and Wifi would give results? then do that, please
[18:34] <tomreyn> alecb_ this should work, too: lspci -knnv | grep -iA7 network | pastebinit
[18:35] <alecb_> tomreyn: yeah I get an entry for Wifi: (internet died so copying manually): Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n Wifi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)   [cont'd...]
[18:35] <Ihsan_> 50GB
[18:35] <Ihsan_> Is that much?
[18:35] <alecb_> tomreyn: [..cont'd] Subsystem: Realtek Semidoncutor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8195] ...
[18:35] <alecb_> tomreyn: ... Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce ...
[18:36] <alecb_> tomreyn: ... Kernel modules: rtl8192ce
[18:38] <tomreyn> alecb_: and you're using which ubuntu version?
[18:39] <alecb_> tomreyn: 12.04
[18:39] <klebezettel> hi
[18:39] <klebezettel> how come that I have a 60GB partition, then I create a fs like ext3 on it and df -h reports me 18GB for the mounted partition?!
[18:40] <mathi> I know I have "Vino", but it is not listed under /usr/share/applications, why ?
[18:41] <dr_willis> klebezettel:  check fdisk -l output. only like 5% is reserved for ext3
[18:42] <klebezettel> dr_willis: /dev/sda5       855461313   976773167    60655927+  83  Linux ...nothing wrong here?
[18:42] <dr_willis> just random #'s to me. :)
[18:42] <Bims> my ps/2 mouse does no longer work after upgrade. has ps/2 been disabled in ubuntu's current kernel?
[18:43] <dr_willis> klebezettel:  could be its built into gnome, i dont see a speciifc 'vino' command
[18:43] <klebezettel> mathi: ^^
[18:43] <dr_willis> locate vino
[18:43] <dr_willis> /etc/xdg/autostart/vino-server.desktop
[18:44] <dr_willis> Exec=/usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-disable
[18:44] <ranveer5389> mathi: You can also try "dpkg -S vino"
[18:44] <tomreyn> alecb_: does this give something? lsmod | grep rtl
[18:45] <dr_willis> i see no stand alone vino binary. you configure the vino server to run..
[18:45] <mathi> thank you, now something is freaking me out... I can connect to my linux machine where I installe Ubuntu without any password
[18:45] <alecb_> tomreyn: yup. what were you looking for in particular?
[18:46] <dr_willis> I did just realize im on my 12.10 box. so it may be differnt there.
[18:46] <alecb_> tomreyn: the left column hs rtl8..., rtl8..._common, rtlwifi, mac20122, cfg80211
[18:46] <alecb_> *mac80211
[18:46] <bwlang> what's the best way to add a non official repo from the command line?
[18:46] <bwlang> apt-add-repository does not seem to be universally available
[18:46] <tomreyn> alecb_: i'm trying to find out which driver is in use. the rtl8... ones are of interest
[18:46] <dr_willis> bwlang:  most ppa's are added with that ppa-add command.
[18:46] <dr_willis> !ppa
[18:47] <alecb_> tomreyn: rtl8192ce 84826 0
[18:47] <trism> bwlang: add-apt-repository is in python-software-properties in 12.04-
[18:47] <alecb_> tomreyn: rtl8192c_common 75767 1 rtl8192ce
[18:48] <tomreyn> alecb_: that's enough, thanks. give me a minute.
[18:49] <trism> bwlang: though you could always just edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly if you wished
[18:49] <bwlang> trism: sure.. but then i have to deal with the whole keys business, blah blah
[18:50] <bwlang> i'm thinkig about adding dev.zenoss.com...
[18:51] <r_lex> hello
[18:51] <r_lex> my upgraded ubuntu 12.04 halts after running /scripts/init-bottom... done
[18:52] <r_lex> no errors seen, but it does not boot
[18:52] <tomreyn> alecb_: dpkg -l linux-firmware | grep ^.i
[18:53] <SystemIcon> I think my ethernet controller has been compromised by a power surge. Ubuntu is able to communicate with the device, and registers it as eth1, but is unable to establish a connection. I was curious to know if its possible to flash the firmware on the device, thinking that might possibly restore it to working order. Is that possible?
[18:53] <alecb_> tomreyn: ii linux-firmware 1.79 \n Firmware for linux kernel drivers
[18:54] <mathi> vino-preferences: 2468  Gtk-CRITICAL  gtk_entry_set_text  assertion 'text != NULL'  failed
[18:54] <mathi> :-(((((
[18:54] <mathi> why nothing work
[18:55] <r_lex> so uh... any ideas?
[18:56] <tomreyn> alecb_: so you have the firmware blobs installed already but they don't help, or not enough. it looks like your very model is not well supported. let's see if i can find a newer version of the driver and firmware.
[18:56] <alecb_> tomreyn: I've actually got to run now (class) -- I'll try and get on later though and bother you again (or someone else if you're not around)
[18:57] <r_lex> ok, another try: how i can increase verbosity of boot log?
[19:04] <prophit> If I'm SSHing from my local machine (dev@localhost) into a remote machine (user2@remotehost) - how do I set up passwordless ssh-access into the user2 account on remotehost? I've copied dev's id_rsa.pub key into .ssh/authorized_keys in user2's directory
[19:05] <tomreyn> prophit: and does it not work to use the key to authenticate now?
[19:05] <prophit> tomreyn: that's right. on dev@localhost I try: ssh user2@remotehost but I'm still prompted for a password
[19:06] <Moonlightning> Check the permissions.
[19:06] <Moonlightning> ~user2 may not be group or world-writable
[19:06] <Moonlightning> ~user2/.ssh and everything below it should be u=rwX,go=
[19:07] <tomreyn> prophit: does this work then? ssh -i ~/.ssh/name_of_the_key_id_rsa user2@remotehost
[19:07] <tomreyn> you will need to replace name_of_the_key_id_rsa by the name of the private key you created
[19:09] <prophit> tomreyn: no, it's still prompting for user2's password
[19:09] <Moonlightning> prophit: did you check the permissions? XD
[19:11] <tomreyn> prophit: if you manually installed the key on the remote system then it's likely a permissions issue as Moonlightning says. you can undo your manual changes to the remote system (delete the key you placed there) and use ssh-copy-id on your local system to install it on the remote system instead.
[19:11] <prophit> Moonlightning: chmod +rwX -r .ssh/  ?
[19:11] <tomreyn> it will set up the permissions properly for you
[19:11] <Moonlightning> prophit: `chmod -R u=rwX,go= ~/.ssh`
[19:11] <prophit> tomreyn: thanks, I'll try that
[19:11] <Moonlightning> Also `chmod go-w ~`
[19:14] <prophit> tomreyn: ssh-copy-id didn't resolve the issue, but Moonlightning's two chmod commands did
[19:14] <Moonlightning> ^^
[19:14] <prophit> thanks for the help both of you
[19:14] <Moonlightning> np ^^
[19:15] <Moonlightning> ssh should give an error about that. :V
[19:15] <tomreyn> prophit: cool. do you still have to use ssh -i ... to authenticate by key?
[19:15] <Moonlightning> It's confused me a lot…
[19:15] <prophit> tomreyn: no
[19:15] <tomreyn> good
[19:15] <prophit> Moonlightning: you said it makes that directory "world writable" - what does that mean?
[19:15] <Moonlightning> o+w, or word-writable, means that anyone can write to it.
[19:15] <tomreyn> other (last bit) is set to writable
[19:16] <Moonlightning> last three bits *
[19:16] <Moonlightning> (Something like 'Ignoring ssh key because ~/.ssh is world-writable' would be helpful. :P )
[19:16]  * Moonlightning (wonders if they take enhancement requests)
[19:16] <Tico> adib: hey adib, you available?
[19:16] <prophit> so that means any other user with access to remotehost can edit user2's .ssh/ folder?
[19:16] <tomreyn> Moonlightning: i think it does say so in auth.log, doesn't it?
[19:16] <Moonlightning> prophit: usually, yes
[19:17] <Moonlightning> tomreyn: yes, but non-root users can't read that
[19:17] <Moonlightning> And if you can't `ssh` into the remote machine anyway…
[19:17] <prophit> Moonlightning: that doesn't sound like an ideal situation
[19:17] <Moonlightning> prophit: exactly. XD
[19:17] <adib> tomreyn:  ask tj i suck at dis :P
[19:18] <adib> tico i suck at ubuntu dont ask me
[19:18] <tomreyn> adib: not sure what you mean?
[19:19] <Tico> okey :/
[19:19] <adib> nothign actual was wrong tab :P
[19:19] <Tico> i just don't know if i need to boot the windows (ubuntu) or the efi (ubuntu too)?
[19:19] <tomreyn> Moonlightning: i'm pretty sure it's a security measure not to disclose to remote hosts trying to authenticate why they cannot.
[19:20] <Moonlightning> tomreyn: but is what the permissions on remote:~/.ssh are set to really helpful to an attacker?
[19:22] <tomreyn> Moonlightning: i guess telling someone "hey, on this system you were trying to authenticate on anyone who already got local access can read this users' authorized_keys" is a bit problematic, yes.
[19:22] <Moonlightning> …oh. o.o
[19:22] <tomreyn> but there can be better reasons i can't think of now
[19:22] <caz> Hi there
[19:23] <caz> I'm encountering an issue while sharing a folder with samba for windows
[19:24] <SnapSnap> Sometimes my computer freezes up for no apparent reason. When I hit CTRL-ALT-F1, it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191449/  This repeats every second or two until it unfreezes.
[19:25] <tomreyn> SnapSnap: this indicates a media error on internal or removable disks
[19:25] <SnapSnap> tomreyn, so the disk is trying to read something, something's wrong with the hard disk that keeps it from being read, and it freezes?
[19:26] <caz> I'm sharing a web site folder through samba, running well, I can see it in windows network, I can access it, modify it with notepad
[19:27] <tomreyn> SnapSnap: if you have a cdrom/dvd in your drive, remove it and see if it helps. same if you have any external storage attached. if you don't have that then chances are your hard disk needs replacement. make backups now if you haven't done it yet, then install smart utilities and run a long self-test.
[19:27] <caz> Then, I try with my favorite editor (aptana) to create a project from existing sources (the shared folder)
[19:27] <designbybeck> Besides "uname -a" what other commands will give you good ssytem info?
[19:27] <caz> But it result by a non working share.
[19:27] <stark1> hey whats up room
[19:27] <tomreyn> SnapSnap: yes, you just summed this up correctly.
[19:29] <ipatron> Greetings all, I'm trying to log into my old admin account after upgrading to 11.10 (this was some 6-8 months ago, yes). I've looked up the forums and the solution seems to be removing the "Xauthority" file, however, when i go to terminal and try to execute the command "sudo rm ~/.Xauthority" i just get an error message saying "no such file or directory." I'm unsure how to proceed. I'd like...
[19:29] <ipatron> ...to access my old files.
[19:29] <Ihsan_> Hello, I'm trying to encrypt my crypted partition (With bitlocker from Windows 7) with dislocker. Im now trying to execute the command: sudo dislocker-file -V encrypted bitlocker -p563200-557084-108284-218900-019151-415437-694144-239976 --decrypted.ntfs, but it says that 'dislocker-file: command not found.. What do I need to do?
[19:29] <SnapSnap> tomreyn, thanks for the help. Do you happen to know the package name for smart utilities?
[19:30] <Moonlightning> Ihsan_: you're probably missing a package.
[19:30] <Ihsan_> Oh, could you help me discover what kind of package I need to download or need?
[19:30] <Moonlightning> Or maybe dislocker-file is in /sbin or something that's not in your $PATH
[19:30] <Moonlightning> Try `apt-cache search dislocker-file`
[19:30] <Moonlightning> It's probably called dislocker or something like that.
[19:31] <Ihsan_> apt-cache didnt work
[19:31] <Ihsan_> i didnt get errors though
[19:31] <Moonlightning> What version of Ubuntu?
[19:31] <Ihsan_> but i executed command again, nothing happens
[19:31] <Ihsan_> the newest
[19:32] <Ihsan_> 12.04
[19:32] <Ihsan_> i think
[19:32] <FloodBot1> Ihsan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <Ihsan_> yeah
[19:32] <Ihsan_> I'm sorry, but could you please help me with using 'dislocker-file' as said in the 'man 1 dislocker'?
[19:33] <Moonlightning> …guess it's not in the repos. Hang on.
[19:33]  * Moonlightning googles this
[19:33] <Moonlightning> Google for 'dislocker-file ubuntu' turned up http://superuser.com/questions/376533/how-to-access-bitlocker-encrypted-drive-in-linux which links to http://www.hsc.fr/ressources/outils/dislocker/download/
[19:34] <Moonlightning> Try downloading the tarball from that last page…do you know how to install from source. Ihsan_?
[19:34] <Moonlightning> , *
[19:36] <dr_willis> !find dislocker-file
[19:36] <dr_willis> Hello, I'm trying to encrypt my crypted partition (With bitlocker from Windows 7)...... You did mean DEcrypt?
[19:38] <wutz> good night guys
[19:38] <wutz> can any1 help me with a wifi switching issue?
[19:38] <wutz> im using a fujitsu siemens esprimo mobile v5055
[19:38] <Hyperbyte> wutz, bit difficult to answer that question without knowing exactly what your problem is.
[19:39] <wutz> im installed madwifi and wicd
[19:39] <Hyperbyte> But I'm sure anyone will do their best.
[19:39] <wutz> i did rfkill list
[19:39] <wutz> and no1 of the stuffs are blocked
[19:39] <wutz> ifconfig and wlanconfig is seems to be ok
[19:39] <wutz> but
[19:39] <wutz> i have a router
[19:39] <wutz> im alrdy removed all the firewall options and etc shiz from it
[19:39] <wutz> and my laps
[19:39] <wutz> wifi still cant see it
[19:39] <wutz> atm i tried ndiswrapper
[19:40] <zykotick9> !enter | wutz
[19:40] <Moonlightning> !flood | wutz
[19:40] <wutz> so
[19:41] <wutz> the problem is i think i cant switch my wifi on, its eanbled in bios 2.
[19:41] <Ihsan_> sudo dislocker -V encrypted.bitlocker -p563200-557084-108284-218900-019151-415437-694144-239976 --decrypted.ntfs
[19:41] <Ihsan_> sudo dislocker-file -V encrypted.bitlocker -p563200-557084-108284-218900-019151-415437-694144-239976 --decrypted.ntfs, is the command that doesnt work, it says command not found
[19:41] <dr_willis> wutz:  ive had some odd laptops where i had to toggle/turn on the wifi in windows, then it worked in linux. I made sure to never touch the wifi switch again.
[19:41] <copec> In Ubuntu 12.04(.1) is there a specific way to enable the cgroups ns (namespaces) subsystem?
[19:41] <wutz> so
[19:42] <wutz> if i put a windows on
[19:42] <Eagleman> Why isnt this working in rc.local?
[19:42] <dr_willis> Ihsan_:  so have you installed anything to give you the dislocker command?
[19:42] <Moonlightning> Ihsan_: that means that the `dislocker` program isn't in any directory that's in your $PATH, which probably means `dislocker` isn't installed on your machine.
[19:42] <Eagleman>  /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start &
[19:42] <Ihsan_> Oh
[19:42] <Eagleman> It works when i type in the command myself
[19:42] <wutz> in virutalbox, and put the utility in it, i can turn it on ?
[19:42] <Moonlightning> Ihsan_: did you see my earlier post?
[19:42] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  differnt default path, and rc.local is running it as root which may not be what you want.
[19:42] <Eagleman> dr_willis: i've placed it after exit 0...
[19:43] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  it has to be BEFOR exit 0
[19:43] <Ihsan_> I CD'ed to my desktop where dislocker-pub.map is, and then CD'ed to src, and did sudo make install, and I successfully created the .bitlocker file, now i need to dislock-file it
[19:43] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: there's your problem XD
[19:43] <Eagleman> Teamspeak itself is running as an seperate user
[19:43] <WeThePeople> hi
[19:43] <Eagleman> atleast i think is it
[19:43] <Eagleman> Any idea how to see that?
[19:44] <dr_willis> wutz:  theres no need to msg me.. and a wifi tool in vbox will not be affecting the actual hardware on the pc.
[19:44] <wutz> then i need to
[19:44] <dr_willis> ps ax | grep teamspeak    perhaps
[19:44] <Moonlightning> !pm | wutz
[19:44] <dr_willis> the last line in rc.local should be 'exit 0'
[19:44] <Eagleman> 1536 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep --color=auto teamspeak
[19:44] <Eagleman> so it is
[19:44] <wutz> so i need to do a win install here ?
[19:44] <crypted> how could one change the port for vino-server?  i keep having flood attacks of attempted logins.
[19:45] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: that line is just for the command you just typed. XD
[19:45] <dr_willis> crypted:  best bet would be to ssh tunnle the vnc traffic not leaveing it open to the wild internet.
[19:45] <Eagleman> i know dr_willis i taught it was something else but i just entered it wroing
[19:45] <Eagleman> Moonlightning: ?
[19:45] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: if that's the only line in the output, `teamspeak` must not be running.
[19:45] <crypted> dr_willis: so no quick config i guess?
[19:45] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: when you `ps aux | grep whatever`, there will always be a line in the output for the `grep whatever`
[19:45] <Eagleman> root@Eagleman:/home/robin# ps ax | grep teamspeak  1564 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto teamspeak
[19:45] <wutz> ty for the support guys
[19:46] <wutz> cya
[19:46] <Eagleman> So what is the problem?
[19:46] <Eagleman> i think it is running
[19:46] <jeep> crypted: best practices is to block every connection except those you explicitly want if it all possible
[19:46] <tomreyn> copec: you want linux 3.5 for proper cgroups support
[19:46] <crypted> allrighty
[19:47] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: the '1564 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto teamspeak' line isn't for teamspeak itself, it's for the command you used to see if teamspeak was running
[19:47] <copec> tomreyn:  Doesn't LXC use the namespaces subsystem?
[19:47] <tomreyn> copec: yes it does, but i assume you want proper isolation?
[19:48] <Eagleman> Moonlightning:  I wanted to find out on which user teamspeak was running
[19:48] <Eagleman> So i am a bit confused with what you are saying
[19:48] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: `ps` prints a list of processes running on the system.
[19:48] <Moonlightning> Yes?
[19:48] <copec> tomreyn:  So can I trust lxc isolation on a default 3.2 kernel in 12.04?
[19:49] <Eagleman> i can connect and it is running as the user teamspeak
[19:49] <Eagleman> so
[19:49] <Moonlightning> So when you `grep something`, then `grep` will be running on the system, yes?
[19:49] <tomreyn> copec: no. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LxcSecurity
[19:49] <Eagleman> em
[19:49] <Eagleman> grep searches in the output of the previous command
[19:50] <Moonlightning> Right.
[19:50] <Eagleman> ps | grep teamspeak
[19:50] <Moonlightning> Since `ps` includes the entire command in its output, `grep` won't filter out the entry in `ps` output for itself.
[19:50] <Eagleman> only shows the line with teamspeak in it
[19:50] <Moonlightning> Wrong.
[19:50] <taowa> I can't open the ubuntu iso
[19:50] <zykotick9> Eagleman: try "ps aux | grep -i teamspeak"
[19:50] <Moonlightning> It shows the line for teamspeak AND the line for `grep`
[19:50] <Eagleman> omg
[19:50] <Eagleman> what is the problem
[19:51] <Eagleman> root      1692  0.0  0.0   9376   952 pts/0    S+   21:50   0:00 grep --color=auto -i teamspeak
[19:51] <Eagleman> so it runs as root?
[19:51] <Moonlightning> That's not teamspeak.
[19:51] <Moonlightning> That's grep
[19:51] <Eagleman> what
[19:51] <Moonlightning> Look at the command!
[19:51] <copec> tomreyn:  Thanks for the link, I've been using the cpu and blkio subsystems sucessfully with the cglib, and now I want to expirement with namespaces
[19:51] <netmk> 0:00 grep --color=auto -i teamspeak
[19:51] <Moonlightning> > grep --color=auto -i teamspeak
[19:51] <copec> the subsystem isn't even showing up however
[19:51] <netmk> is grep
[19:52] <Moonlightning> Okay…
[19:52] <Moonlightning> I did this on a system I know for sure is NOT running teamspeak.
[19:52] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  or the process name is not 'teamspeak'
[19:52] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: http://pastebin.com/46F26SWT
[19:52] <copec> tomreyn:  if I cat /proc/cgroups, I get blkio, cpu, cpuset, cpuacct,  devices, freezer, memory, perf_event but no ns
[19:52] <Eagleman> root      1133  0.6  0.4 660004  8624 ?        Sl   21:43   0:03 ./ts3server_linux_amd64
[19:52] <tomreyn> copec: get an up to date kernel.
[19:52] <Eagleman> Now i understand what you mean Moonlightning
[19:52] <taowa> I can't open the ubuntu .iso
[19:53] <Moonlightning> XD
[19:53] <dr_willis> taowa:  how are you trying to open it?
[19:53] <Pici> Moonlightning: you could type any word you want, and it will show up as a process because that is what grep is running.
[19:53] <Eagleman> so it is running as root?
[19:53] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: yes, that ts3server_linux_amd64 is running as root.
[19:53] <Moonlightning> Pici: basically, yes.
[19:53] <copec> tomreyn:  ty
[19:53] <Eagleman> so add su -c teamspeak infront of the rc.local command?
[19:53] <taowa> On mac : double click it (opens in DiskImageMounter)
[19:54] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  if you want it to run as a differnet user yes...
[19:54] <Eagleman> well i do
[19:54] <Eagleman> since running it as root is a security risk
[19:54] <cdavis> When I start my laptop I get no X and an error "Filed to Initialize the Nvidia kernel module..." If I just log into console and do /etc/init.d/lightdm restart X works fine?
[19:54] <dr_willis> assuming the service dosent require running as root...
[19:54] <taowa> Tells me no mountable file systems
[19:55] <dr_willis> taowa:  what are you planning on doing with the iso? most people burn them to cd...
[19:55] <taowa> Exactly
[19:55] <dr_willis> then use a cd burning app..  not mounting it..
[19:55] <Eagleman> root@Eagleman:/home/robin# su -c teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh stop Unknown id: /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh
[19:55] <dr_willis> !burn
[19:55] <tomreyn> copec: i'm not sure whether all features LXC depends on are actually available in linux 3.5, but it surely improves cgroups support a lot. i aslo do not know whether that's sufficient to fille the gaps around isolation. unfortunately the LXC website isn't exactly vocal on these critical issues.
[19:55] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  you made a teamspeak user?
[19:56] <Eagleman> yes i did
[19:56] <Eagleman> adduser teamspeak --disabled-login --no-create-home
[19:56] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: you probably need to stop teamspeak as root (since you started it as root)
[19:56] <dr_willis> I wonder if the teamspeak guides mentiuon the proper way to run it at boot time.
[19:56] <taowa> My burning software requires me to open it first
[19:56] <dr_willis> taowa:  sounds like rather poor software.
[19:56] <Eagleman> I've stopped teamspeak
[19:57] <Eagleman> su -c teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start
[19:57] <dr_willis> taowa:  you burn it as an image, you dont mount/copy the files to a differnt cd.
[19:57] <LiDaR> dr_willis: information like that is too secret to be given away freely to the public i bet
[19:57] <Eagleman> Unknown id: /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh
[19:57] <Moonlightning> Shouldn't that be `-u teamspeak`?
[19:57] <dr_willis> LiDaR:  or its right there as a #1 faq item that no one ever looks for.,
[19:57] <copec> tomreyn:  I'm just confused how cgroups has been around since linux 2.6, and all the subsystems show up on the latest default kernel on an ubuntu 10.04 box I have...but the namespace one is missing on an ubuntu 12.04 box
[19:57] <Moonlightning> …oh, wait, no.
[19:57] <zykotick9> Eagleman: 2 commands not one (i'd guess) perhaps "su -c teamspeak && /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start" might work?
[19:57] <Eagleman> sudo -u teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start
[19:57] <Eagleman> started
[19:58] <copec> tomreyn:  and then I see stuff like this:  http://www.stgraber.org/2012/05/04/lxc-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts/  that makes it seem like lxc should be great on 12.04
[19:58] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: you have that in the wrong order.
[19:58] <Moonlightning> …`sudo -u` works too
[19:58] <Moonlightning> That's what I was thinking of.
[19:58] <dr_willis> http://robert.penz.name/296/howto-install-teamspeak-3-server-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/  shows how to make a real service for teamspeak3 ;)
[19:58] <copec> tomreyn:  but the default kernel is missing a subsystem it needs
[19:58] <taowa> Where do I find out my loco team's channel
[19:58] <dr_willis> Eagleman:   the teamspeak user does own the teamspeak dir/files?
[19:58] <dr_willis> chown -R teamspeak /opt/ts3
[19:59] <Eagleman> well yes and no since i started it as root and root made some files
[19:59] <DJones> taowa: Which country are you looking for a loco in?
[19:59] <Froward> !brainstorm Ubuntu registers mouseclicks from my (Asus) touchpad very sluggishly. Also it doesn't simulate middle click!
[19:59] <Froward> UGH
[20:00] <Froward> Even your BOT is confusing and requires excessive perusal of arcane documentation!
[20:00] <dr_willis> thats not a brainstorm type item anyway...
[20:00] <Froward> man I dunno
[20:00] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> Froward  it's because she's a woman
[20:00] <Froward> oh
[20:00] <Eagleman> 1002      2139  1.6  0.3 531812  8148 pts/0    Sl   21:59   0:00 ./ts3server_linux_amd64
[20:00] <dr_willis> But reports go to a differnt place..
[20:00] <Eagleman> Now it runs as user teamspeak
[20:00] <dr_willis> !bugs
[20:00] <Froward> MonkeyDust: your joke is boring.
[20:00] <taowa> Found it
[20:00] <dr_willis> a check of the forums or askubuntu.com for your exact make/model laptop - may show some tipstricks/tweaks for known issues
[20:00] <Eagleman> Will this work in my rc.local file?
[20:01] <Eagleman> sudo -u teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start
[20:01] <jeep> Eagleman: no
[20:01] <Moonlightning> You might have to include the full path to `sudo`, but I don't see why not.
[20:01] <Moonlightning> Then again, I know nothing about rc.local XD
[20:01]  * Moonlightning shuts up
[20:01] <jeep> sudo is interactive needing a password typed
[20:01] <Moonlightning> Not if you run it as root
[20:02] <tomreyn> copec: did you spot this? "NOTE: Until we have user namespaces implemented in the kernel and used by the LXC we will NOT say that LXC is root safe, however the default apparmor profile as shipped in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is blocking any armful action that we are aware of."
[20:02] <jeep> \if your running a command as root then you dont need sudo
[20:02] <Eagleman> em
[20:02] <vman> jeep visudo and look at the examples... you can set nopasswd
[20:02] <Moonlightning> Not necessarily, jeep
[20:02] <Eagleman> i want to use sudo to run it not as root
[20:02] <zykotick9> jeep: when run as root (like from rc.local) i wouldn't think it would require a password (not positive)
[20:02] <aLeSD> hi all
[20:02] <saliak> If i set a kernel argument during boot, is there a way to confirm it got set after the system has started up?
[20:02]  * Moonlightning checks this
[20:03] <TJ-> saliak: "cat /proc/cmdline"
[20:03] <dr_willis> from rc.local you could use 'su' to switch to the user. not sudo
[20:03] <Eagleman> So what do i enter in rc.local to run teamspeak as the user teaamspeak?
[20:03] <Eagleman> su teamspeak /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start &    ?
[20:03] <copec> tomreyn:  I didn't, I guess I need to pay closer attention and stop bothering people :)
[20:04] <tomreyn> copec: it's on the stgraber.org page you posted. they tried to work around the security issues in lxc by adding apparmor profiles. to me this sounds like they really badly needed to have "lxc support" on their feature list for 12.04.
[20:04] <saliak> TJ-: awesome, thanks!  I guess I actually did not set the kernel parameter during boot successfully :(
[20:04] <Moonlightning> Eagleman: `su -c "$command" $user`
[20:04] <TJ-> saliak: In GRUB boot menu, press 'e' on the entry, edit the line beginning "linux..." then press Ctrl+X
[20:04] <Moonlightning> su -c '/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start' teamspeak
[20:05] <zykotick9> saliak: was TJ-'s answer "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[20:05] <TJ-> saliak: Don't accidentally add it to the line beginning "initrd..."
[20:05] <saliak> TJ-: I think that's what I did.. will try again
[20:05] <saliak> zykotick9: yes
[20:05] <Eagleman> su -c /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start & teamspeak
[20:06] <dr_willis> i think the & is in the wrong place....
[20:06] <Eagleman> lol
[20:06] <saliak> TJ-: ok.  it's my router so I'll try again and see how it goes.  actually, what do I edit to make it permanent?  I've read a few things online, but there seems to have been a change in what files to edit, etc over the years.
[20:06] <zykotick9> saliak: to make it permanent edit /etc/default/grub
[20:07] <zykotick9> saliak: fyi you need to run "sudo update-grub" after making any changes to apply them
[20:07] <saliak> zykotick9: I don't have a /etc/default/grub now
[20:07] <TJ-> saliak: router? you mean it's an embedded device?
[20:07] <Eagleman> dr_willis: where do i have to place the & then?
[20:07] <zykotick9> saliak: really?  are you using grub2?
[20:07] <saliak> TJ-: no.  a full blown system, but it's my dhcp server/firewall/etc.
[20:07] <dr_willis> at the end of the command line.. like always...
[20:08] <saliak> zykotick9: I don't know.  there's a /boot/grub/...
[20:08] <dr_willis> not befor one of the commands arguments. ;)
[20:08] <Eagleman> Well maybe its second nature for you but its not for me
[20:08] <dr_willis> it always goes at the end... alwyas has.. you were using it the same way earlier.
[20:08] <TJ-> saliak: Ahhh OK. IF you've installed grub correctly the administration packages will install /etc/default/grub which you edit to change things such as the command line
[20:09] <Eagleman> Anyways it is not starting
[20:09] <saliak> zykotick9: like, in /boot/grub/grub.conf, there's a section at the end that looks tempting to edit (it has the boot options  listed.  would i just add the flag to one of the lines there?
[20:09] <zykotick9> dr_willis: & doesn't always go at the end...  "ls & ls" will basically run the two at the same time.
[20:09] <jeep> Eagleman: teamspeak is the client that should run as your user account right ?
[20:09] <Eagleman> su -c /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start teamspeak &
[20:09] <Eagleman> it is possible
[20:09] <zykotick9> saliak: if you don't have /etc/default/grub i can't help you.  good luck.
[20:10] <dr_willis> ls & dirtolist      however is total.. well.. confusion
[20:10] <TJ-> Eagleman: "su  teamspeak -c /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[20:10] <Eagleman> Usage: /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh {start|stop|restart|status}
[20:10]  * Moonlightning blinks
[20:10] <zykotick9> dr_willis: & is to run the next command, while && is run the second after the first completes successfully
[20:11] <saliak> TJ-: this has been a system i'v ebeen upgrading for about 8 years now .  it was a clean install way back.  how do i install the administration packages?
[20:11] <Moonlightning> Options can go after the username like that?
[20:11] <TJ-> Eagleman: *always* read the man-page! "Additional arguments may be provided after the username, in which case they are supplied to the user's login shell. In particular, an argument of -c will cause the next argument to be treated as a command by most command interpreters"
[20:12] <Froward> how do I add multiple chat accounts to the drop down thingee in the top right corner?
[20:12] <TJ-> saliak: Usually the "grub" package would do, but it sounds as if that may have inherited an old grub1 config and it hasn't been replaced on upgrade.
[20:12] <Eagleman> TJ-:
[20:12] <Eagleman> root@Eagleman:/home/robin# su teamspeak -c /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start
[20:12] <thedangler> hello. I'm having issues with my ssh server on my box.  I can't seem to connect from my mac. I can connect fine from ubuntu to the mac though.  connecting to the ubuntu box works speratically. sftp same problem.  Very frustrating.
[20:12] <saliak> TJ-: yeah, it sounds like that might be the case.  is there a way to fix that?
[20:12] <Eagleman> Usage: /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh {start|stop|restart|status}
[20:12] <Moonlightning> Try quoting it.
[20:13] <Moonlightning> su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[20:13] <saliak> TJ-: well, lemme see if this kernel flag fixes the problem i started off tackling. then can go from there i guess.
[20:13] <rymate1234> hey
[20:13] <TJ-> saliak: I seem to recall that installing the grub2 packages installs a script that will do the conversion if you manually launch it. Do a quick web-search for that
[20:13] <rymate1234> I want to enable bitmap fonts in ubuntu for my terminal
[20:13] <rymate1234> How would I do this?
[20:13] <saliak> TJ-: ok, will do. thanks!
[20:14] <dr_willis> rymate1234:  for what terminal app?
[20:14] <rymate1234> gnome-terminal
[20:14] <Eagleman> 1002      1180  0.8  0.3 531812  8128 ?        Sl   22:14   0:00 ./ts3server_linux_amd64
[20:14] <Eagleman> IT WORKS at a reboot
[20:14] <Froward> I found it! It's [envelope] > Chat > Edit > Accounts
[20:14] <Eagleman> thanks everyone
[20:15] <dr_willis> /opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh status    shows the status
[20:15] <dr_willis> your ussage past showed that. ;)
[20:15] <TJ-> Eagleman: Do you know about the teamspeak server package in the archives? It has a proper service start/stop script for upstart/sysv-init
[20:15] <Eagleman> TJ
[20:16] <Eagleman> thats teamspeak 2
[20:16] <taowa> How much is a ubuntu CD
[20:16] <TJ-> Eagleman: Yes... but it has the service wrapper, which you can usually trivially adapt for your own version
[20:16] <rymate1234> dr_willis, so how would I do it?
[20:16] <Eagleman> Well it works this way
[20:16] <jeep> taowa: downloading on dialup is faster than snail mail
[20:16] <merk_> yop !
[20:17] <JoeyJoeJo> I'm making an offline installer so I can easily deploy new machines. Is there a way for apt-get to download a package and all of its depenancies to a specified folder?
[20:17] <tonsofpcs> yes
[20:17] <tonsofpcs> in fact, it does by default.
[20:17] <zykotick9> !aptoncd | JoeyJoeJo this might help?
[20:17] <tonsofpcs> there's an apt cache folder that it pulls everything into
[20:17] <taowa> However installing is impossible without a drive that can burn
[20:17] <jeep> JoeyJoeJo: /etc/apt/cache
[20:17] <taowa> !aptoncd
[20:17] <taowa> !cd
[20:18] <zykotick9> jeep: i think you mean /var/cache/apt/archives JoeyJoeJo
[20:18] <jeep> zykotick9: yeah thanks
[20:20] <jeep> JoeyJoeJo: how many machines do you deploy it is possibly you do network installs across your network ... only worht setting up if your doing alot though
[20:21] <dr_willis> i find an apt-cacher-ng server handy on my small home lan.
[20:21] <jeep> i think 5+ machines doing it that way would be handy
[20:22] <duckxx> whats the best way to monitor a server? via top and mytop? or are there better tools out there? how about htop ?
[20:22] <marcappuccino> Does anyone know whether the new window minimize and unminimize animations in Quantal beta 1 will be permenant?
[20:22] <duckxx> is there even a gui interface that does the same similar functionality as top and mytop ?
[20:22] <zykotick9> duckxx: htop is way better they top.  i've never heard of mytop
[20:22] <TJ-> pxeboot + apt-cacher-ng is a very useful combination ... I have a script that auto-mounts and adds to a pxe boot menu every ISO I download so they appear over  TFTP and NFS
[20:22] <jrib>  !quantal | marcappuccino
[20:23] <JoeyJoeJo> duckxx: gkrellm
[20:23] <vman> duckxx ... the "best" way is to have something else monitor it and alert on problems.
[20:23] <duckxx> no im running a server
[20:23] <duckxx> no gui
[20:23] <TJ-> duckxx: For proper monitoring you might want to explore SNMP agents and something like nagios
[20:23] <duckxx> vman but sometimes i want to see what queries are being run when people hit my site
[20:23] <zykotick9> duckxx: you just asked for a GUI solution?
[20:23] <duckxx> so i can see which sites are being hammered or not
[20:24] <dr_willis> !info ntop
[20:24] <duckxx> a gui meaning via the browser
[20:24] <TJ-> duckxx: Sounds like you mean you want to see the active connections on an apache2 web server
[20:24] <duckxx> where i can login... would be awesome if there was an ajax app tat did tat
[20:24] <dr_willis> ntop shows more info then i even know about. ;)
[20:24] <duckxx> yea
[20:24] <TJ-> duckxx: see the apache2 'status' module
[20:24] <dontknow> intel integrated graphics driver that comes default with ubuntu is official intel driver?
[20:25] <sylohack> how do u star using ubuntun
[20:25] <sylohack> some body helpme
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> sylohack  start with a question
[20:25] <marcappuccino> shylohack doo you have something stopping you from using it?
[20:25] <TJ-> sylohack: Get a USB stick or CD/DVD with a LiveCD image installed to it from the Ubuntu download pages
[20:26] <duckxx> is ntop live data feed ?
[20:26] <TJ-> dontknow: Yes
[20:26] <ska> 12.04 has no /dev/shm mounted.. Do I instead use /run/shm?
[20:26] <marcappuccino> shylohack http://www.ubuntu-manual.org/
[20:27] <ska> I'm trying to harden ubuntu, but all the docs say to reconfigure /dev/shm in /etc/fstab
[20:27] <TJ-> ska: mount it :)
[20:27] <sylohack> thanks marca and how i star to hack over here u khwon
[20:27] <BebopSteve> I imported 10 pdf pages into gimp and made edits to one of them, but suddenly the file context menu won't open, nor any of the others.  Any way I can circumvent this without losing my changes?
[20:27] <sylohack> i can but alittle beat
[20:28] <marcappuccino> shylohack you want to learn to code?
[20:28] <ska> TJ-: Good point.. wonder why mount says /run/shm instead.
[20:29] <TJ-> ska: we moved everything!
[20:29] <TJ-> ska: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/57297/why-has-var-run-been-migrated-to-run
[20:30] <dontknow> TJ-, i see, intel graphics gives good performance on linux
[20:30] <sylohack> hide my ip okey let me explain to u i star hacking in amm windows but a friend told that for all that stuff are better amm ubuntu so i star to leran but i dont to mucho how to use\
[20:31] <TJ-> dontknow: Good for most things I think, Intel focus on general workloads not high-performance though
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> sylohack  define "hacking"? is it legal?
[20:31] <taowa> ubottu is is a member of wich loco team
[20:31] <marcappuccino> shylohack what do you mean by hacking? Haking the operating system or learning programming languages like python or BBC BASIC?
[20:31] <jeep> sylohack: for some reason im sure its gonna be years before your a credible threat lol
[20:31] <dr_willis> sylohack:  i suggest learning some usefull skills like 'python programing' instead of vague things like 'hacking'
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> taowa  ubottu is a robot, a machine
[20:31] <taowa> I know
[20:32] <sylohack> yes sr  i whas tstarin about hacking and craking
[20:32] <Eagleman> Why does /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini not exist?
[20:32] <sylohack> can u show me how to do it
[20:32] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve, you can open them with evince, why place them in gimp?
[20:32] <dr_willis> sylohack:  Given the vagueness of your request. no.
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> sylohack  wrong channel, better ask elsewhere
[20:32] <marcappuccino> shylohack what do you want to do? what were you trying to do in windows before you came to ubuntu
[20:32] <Eagleman> Why does /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini not exist?  I've installed things in this order:  http://pastebin.com/p1iQKQus
[20:32] <dr_willis> sylohack:  i suggest spending a day or 2 learning bash, and vi to  build your linux foundation of skills, then move up.
[20:33] <dr_willis> bbl
[20:33] <TJ-> "Hacking" is improving on existing code ... "cracking" is doing illegal things with malice
[20:33] <dr_willis> hacking = chopping down the weeds in my yard.. ;)
[20:33] <marcappuccino> dr_willis lol
[20:33] <dr_willis> Cracking = the sound my back makes the next day after  a hard day of hacking....
[20:33] <ulkesh> ...or coughing up phlegm
[20:33] <TJ-> Eagleman: did you install apache2-mod-php5 ?
[20:33] <sylohack> mm wel i was learning how to use python nmap sql stuf f
[20:34] <Eagleman>  Unable to locate package apache2-mod-php5
[20:34]  * TJ- giggles @ dr_willis ... I know that feeling after finishing at 6am far too many times
[20:34] <sylohack> but id odnt alot of that stuff i what to lear abotu te hacking penetreion of vulnerabilyty website
[20:34] <saliak> TJ-: I'm doing the grub2 installation.  I'ma t the part where it's asking me where to install grub.  I have 3 drives.  does it make sense to install it to all 3 (sda,sdb & sdc)?  i only boot from sda
[20:34] <bekks> sylohack: Then just start lerning on how to code in python, how to use nmap, learn to code in sql, etc.
[20:34] <sylohack> u khown what i mean
[20:34] <marcappuccino> shylohack start one thing at a time - learn python first as it is a nice language
[20:34] <bekks> *learning even
[20:34] <saliak> TJ-: is there a downside to installing on sdb and sdc?
[20:34] <TJ-> saliak: Well not really, unless you're in the habit of telling the BIOS to boot from different drives! Just the one the BIOS reads first in its boot order
[20:35] <TJ-> saliak: Yes, confusion later if you move drives around!
[20:35] <saliak> TJ-: fair enough.
[20:35] <Eagleman> So how do i install apache2-mod-php5 ?
[20:35] <jeep> saliak: always use sda it will save you many future headaches !
[20:35] <TJ-> saliak: Because *all* of grub isn't installed, only the boot-strap sector and the first stage ... no modules, no menu, or anything you'd associate with the public face of GRUB
[20:35] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: Because I haven't heard of it?  The pdf files I'm working with is just 702 pages scanned from a book anyway, I need to rotate/crop/resize selection on about 75-150 of the pages to make them look neat on an ereader
[20:36] <TJ-> Eagleman: from the archives the same way as any other package. First identify its exact package-name then install it
[20:36] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: Can you do that with envice?
[20:36] <saliak> TJ-: ok.  that was my inclination and now you've convinced me :)
[20:36] <TJ-> saliak: Sensible chap :)
[20:36] <saliak> TJ-: ok, now i have /etc/default/grub.  i just edit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and add my parameter, eh?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve, only if you scanned them to pdf extension
[20:37] <TJ-> saliak: That and then do "sudo update-grub" so it can write those changes to the grub menu and other things
[20:37] <TheHumanScience> very weird...for some reason after trying to fix my brightness issues in lucid now my sudo apt-get update wont work and xchat was removed from my machine...i had to reinstall it. any ideas?
[20:38] <Eagleman> And where can i find the archieve?
[20:38] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: Many of the pages are uneven and briss cannot accurately crop them all until I make these changes ;(
[20:38] <TJ-> Eagleman: according to apt-file the package is "libapache2-mod-php5"
[20:38] <Eagleman> How did you find that?
[20:39] <jeep> TheHumanScience: pastebin the error from apt-get update
[20:39] <TJ-> Eagleman: "archive" means the Ubuntu software archives/repositories where all the free/open source software from Ubuntu is stored
[20:39] <Eagleman> But how can you search in it?
[20:39] <aLeSD> hi all
[20:39] <TJ-> Eagleman: "apt-file search /etc/php5/apache2"
[20:39] <TheHumanScience> E: Invalid operation udpate
[20:39] <Eagleman> aaha
[20:39] <jeep> TheHumanScience: type it correctly
[20:40] <TJ-> Eagleman: I have the package "apt-file" installed to do that kind of thing. You can do it online at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[20:40] <marcappuccino> upate
[20:40] <aLeSD> is there a way to print something in /var/log/kern.log .. it seems not working anymore
[20:40] <TheHumanScience> omg....i feel like a putz
[20:40] <TJ-> TheHumanScience: :D it happens to us all! Typos are the bian fo uor ilves!
[20:40] <Eagleman> bookmaarked and documenred
[20:40] <Eagleman> documented
[20:41] <mark06> what's an alternative to CCleaner in Ubuntu that can clean specific cookies and perform operation from command line?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve, probly a little late , but the next time try this , http://askubuntu.com/questions/5112/scan-many-pages-straight-into-a-pdf
[20:41] <arduinoob> .msg nickserv identify %timsnick1
[20:41] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: I was kinda hoping you knew of some holy grail pdf application that I've been on this epic quest for, haha.  Looking at Evince from google, isn't Ubuntu packaged with it
[20:41] <jeep> TheHumanScience: if you cant type .. you may be interested in using alias to fix it for yourself !
[20:41] <arduinoob> awesome
[20:41] <MrDigerati> Noob. hehe!
[20:41] <DJones> arduinoob: New password time :)
[20:41] <arduinoob> where's the undo button
[20:41] <MrDigerati> yeah! new pass time
[20:41] <marcappuccino> BebopSteve envice is the best thing, but it doesnt edit pdfs
[20:42] <marcappuccino> only vews
[20:42] <marcappuccino> *views
[20:42] <fulcan> I am trying to get remote syslog services running but cannot get the port to initialize. The recommended setting do not work for rsyslod. config fails to initialize port 514?  http://www.rsyslog.com/receiving-messages-from-a-remote-system/
[20:42] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve,evince might be defauly in ubuntu , not sure since I run KDE
[20:43] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj: Oh no it's already scanned, it's a large pdf file with 702 pages that I burst with PDF Chain and now I'm individually editing them with gimp
[20:43] <BluesKaj> BebopSteve, sounds like a f'fun project"  :P
[20:43] <saliak> TJ-: beauty.  got it working (both the grub upgrade and the kernel option that fixed another issue). thanks for the help!
[20:43] <TheHumanScience> thanks guys!
[20:43] <jeep> BebopSteve: id be lick screw this and go buy the book
[20:43] <tomreyn> copec: you may want to try this, too: http://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_413
[20:44] <BebopSteve> Haha but I want to use this nook!  And this book isn't sold in digital format :(
[20:44] <jeep> BebopSteve: just keep roatating the nook be less work than rotating the .pdfs lol
[20:44] <MrDigerati> Hey! Each time I open Vuze thru a shellscript it brings along a window saying an "Error has Occurred". Asks me to submit it. Finally Vuze opens and runs great and this window says it is happening because of some third party libs. What do you suggest that I do?
[20:44] <arduinoob> anyways so I'm trying to setup an ad-hoc network
[20:45] <arduinoob> well, actually an infrastructure network
[20:45] <arduinoob> but the networkmanager gui is broken so it won't save
[20:45] <marcappuccino> MrDigerati sudo apt-get build-dep vuze  (not sure of package name)
[20:45] <arduinoob> is there a config file somewhere so I can change the network from "ad-hoc" to "infrastructue"
[20:46] <BebopSteve> jeep: But it's more than that, some pages are bigger, others smaller and off to a corner, and a quick crop through briss won't work without these manual edits because it cuts off material from the bigger pages! erk
[20:46] <MrDigerati> Marcappuccino: Thing is I am not on the software-channel. Its straight from the Website.
[20:46] <arduinoob> nice jeep
[20:46] <arduinoob> thanks
[20:46] <marcappuccino> !info vuze
[20:46] <jeep> arduinoob: your welcome
[20:47] <arduinoob> you tupe too slow
[20:47] <jeep> i waited on purpose ;)
[20:47] <marcappuccino> you can stil do the command and it will build the dependencies.
[20:47] <arduinoob> I know
[20:47] <MrDigerati> Alright. cool. I will check it.
[20:47] <arduinoob> well, i didn't know but... i figured
[20:47] <BebopSteve> jeep: but heck maybe I can share my efforts once I am finished, if anyone is learning japanese poke me
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> arduinoob  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc#Example_Interfaces_File
[20:48] <chucho> hi im new and i need some help
[20:48] <BebopSteve> ask
[20:48] <copec> tomreyn:  heh, nice link, I'm looking at the apparmor profile now,
[20:48] <jeep> !ask | chucho
[20:48] <arduinoob> MonkeyDust: NetworkManager is not changing that file though
[20:48] <marcappuccino> chucho what is your problem?
[20:49] <MrDigerati> marcappuccino: It is doing a fresh install.
[20:49] <arduinoob> MonkeyDust: I was hoping to edit whatever file networkmanager thinks it's editing
[20:49] <[Hun]> How to make on linux html webpage?
[20:49] <marcappuccino> marcappuccino of ubuntu or vuze?
[20:49] <copec> tomreyn:  I'm working specifically on a shared web hosting setup, I've been arbitrating resources with cgroups, now I'm chrooting cgi's...I think I'm going to write an apparmor profile for it
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> [Hun]  Kompozer
[20:49] <MrDigerati> LOL! Vuze
[20:49] <jeep> [Hun]: bluefish !
[20:49] <[Hun]> Momkeydust ty
[20:49] <chucho> im using jolicloud in a netbook sony vaio, everything works ok except for sound
[20:49] <BebopSteve> [Hun] bluefish +1
[20:49] <arduinoob> [Hun]: vim
[20:49] <copec> tomreyn:  namespaces seemed like it would have been more simple and easy
[20:50] <MrDigerati> I have aborted it. I can live with the Notification.
[20:50] <MrDigerati> Thanks anyway.
[20:50] <jeep> real men use VI to make webpages
[20:50] <marcappuccino> sorry
[20:50] <arduinoob> jeep: ^^
[20:50] <nick91> jeep: real men don't make webpages
[20:50] <tomreyn> copec: i haven't actually (re-)tried lxc lately, just keep reading it's not there, yet.
[20:50] <fulcan> I am trying to get remote syslog services running but cannot get the port to initialize. The recommended setting do not work for rsyslod. What am I missing?  http://www.rsyslog.com/receiving-messages-from-a-remote-system/
[20:51] <BebopSteve> jeep: and the nightmares in the deep for the debugging haunts you in your sleep
[20:51] <marcappuccino> what i would do is purge the qebsite installed one and install from the repos, i beleive sudo apt-get build-dep vuze then sudo apt-get install vuze
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> [Hun]  or even Drupal
[20:52] <marcappuccino> dont take my word for it though!
[20:52] <[Hun]> Thanks
[20:52] <jeep> i think my favorite is still quanta plus though
[20:52] <BebopSteve> I am not a fan of drupal ><
[20:53] <marcappuccino> BeboopSteve concrete5!
[20:53] <jeep> nick91: a womens job used to be cook/clean now its html .. progress for the fairer sex i tell you!
[20:53] <guntbert> !ot | jeep
[20:54] <guest9876765> hello, my system was ok, but i have a power outage not long ego, now my regular user is not on de sudoers file, if try to write /etc/passwd, or /etc/group or anything is saying those files are lock, is the a way i can fix that? am in th recovery console rightnow as root, thanks
[20:54] <nick91> guntbert: so you don't support women on #ubuntu?
[20:54] <nick91> guntbert: what kind of policy is that?
[20:54] <marcappuccino> nick91 no he was providing an example lol
[20:55] <marcappuccino> he is promoting equality
[20:55] <nick91> marcappuccino: that's completely inadequate
[20:55] <guntbert> nick91: don't be silly, this channel is for support and that chatter is out of place here
[20:55] <jeep> this channel is out of control .. not on topic its ridiculous trying to help people under these conditions!
[20:55] <marcappuccino> oh sorry i thought you were talking about jeep
[20:56] <guest9876765> any help please?
[20:56] <jeep> guest9876765: a power outage would cause that
[20:56] <jeep> *not
[20:56] <guest9876765> jeep yes, it did in fact
[20:57] <guest9876765> any ways am out of the system after that, i can login as my username but there is no way i can add or change anything or be sudo
[20:57] <guntbert> guest9876765: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:57] <guest9876765> becouse passwd/group is "lock"
[20:58] <guest9876765> guntbert: the problem i dont have a broser :s can you directme in the right way?
[20:58] <jeep> guest9876765: are you in single user mode .. or just in a shell ?
[20:58] <guest9876765> single user mode as root
[20:59] <Twich_Up> Hey guys
[20:59] <marcappuccino> hi
[20:59] <guest9876765> but i try to usermod <user> -G root or even visudo sudoers but the whole deal is lock
[20:59] <jeep> guest9876765: sounds like the drive is mounted read only .. remount it
[21:00] <guntbert> guest9876765: step 1) mount -o rw,remount /
[21:00] <Twich_Up> It's cold on the ice, the penguins? ?
[21:01] <fulcan> I am trying to get remote syslog services running but cannot get the port to initialize. The recommended setting do not work for rsyslod. What am I missing?  http://www.rsyslog.com/receiving-messages-from-a-remote-system/
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> Twich_Up  wrong channel
[21:01] <Twich_Up> ^^
[21:01] <marcappuccino> Twitch_up you have a question?
[21:01] <jeep> !ot > Twich_Up
[21:01] <Twich_Up> No thanks.
[21:01] <marcappuccino> !ot
[21:01] <guest9876765> guntbert: ok
[21:02] <guest9876765> then ?
[21:02] <merlia> hi
[21:02] <Twich_Up> I just wanna know if with iOS 6 idevices will be compatible ubuntu...
[21:02] <guest9876765> guntbert: this is the only tty i have, that means i have to leave irssi
[21:03] <Twich_Up> Caus' all my computer is on Linux, so i can't use my iPod touch... --'
[21:03] <guest9876765> guntbert: am writting this in paper so i will do that
[21:03] <guntbert> guest9876765: step 2) look into /etc/group
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Twich_Up  first try it with a live cd or usb stick
[21:03] <guest9876765> guntbert: after i leave this chat
[21:03] <guntbert> guest9876765: don't leave yet :)
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Twich_Up  missed your ast line
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> last*
[21:04] <guest9876765> guntbert: ok, that i will look in to /etc/group
[21:04] <Twich_Up> What ??
[21:04] <Twich_Up> Sorry i'm not english
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> Twich_Up  type ipod for information
[21:04] <guntbert> guest9876765: do you have a live CD from which you can boot?
[21:04] <marcappuccino> Twitch_up you must initialize it on windows first i beleive then you can synch music etc via rhythmbox. if not you can dual-boot windows-of-the-carribian
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> !ipod
[21:05] <jeep> guest9876765: in the future .. i suggest installing lynx so you have a browser in the cli ;) it may save you one day!
[21:05] <guest9876765> guntbert: i think so, i have to look for, this is a direct install, is not a vmware
[21:05] <Twich_Up> Okay : iPod Touch 4th Gen with iOShit 5.1.1
[21:05] <guest9876765> jeep: yes i will
[21:05] <marcappuccino> please dont swear
[21:05] <marcappuccino> if you must, use ***s
[21:05] <Twich_Up> Sorry
[21:05] <Twich_Up> So...iPod Touch 4th Gen with iOS*** 5.1.1
[21:06] <guest9876765> which group my user have to be in order to sudo su?
[21:06] <marcappuccino> Um, but is this brand new? the ipod touch?
[21:06] <rymate1234> hey
[21:06] <marcappuccino> hello
[21:06] <rymate1234> trying to use gnome-tweak-tool with gnome
[21:06] <rymate1234> I get this error D:
[21:06] <rymate1234> (gnome-tweak-tool:10351): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme' is not installed
[21:06] <Twich_Up> Not really, that's old than the iPhone
[21:06] <guntbert> guest9876765: I was asking because the next steps depend on what really happened in your system - so it will be much easier (for both of us :-)) fi you can look for yourself at the page I told you about
[21:06] <guntbert> *if
[21:07] <marcappuccino> rymate1234: when doing what?
[21:07] <rymate1234> launching it
[21:07] <Twich_Up> and it's like an iPhone, but can't phone
[21:07] <jeep> could be easier to passwd root so you can log it in with su
[21:07] <jeep> and then fix everything so your not stuck single user
[21:08] <guntbert> !noroot | jeep
[21:08] <guest9876765> guntbert: i know, but since i have no browser, heh, hmm i need to make my user into /etc/sudoers file, if i only can do that then i normal boot and sudo su and do all the stuff
[21:08] <marcappuccino> Twitch_up yes i know, but im not sure because last time i tried to initialize my ipod i thing
[21:08] <Twich_Up> Nobody have a solution for work f****g iTunes on Ubuntu ?
[21:08] <Twich_Up> Wine don't work
[21:08] <jeep> guntbert: lol
[21:08] <marcappuccino> i think it had a selection for ipod touch
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> !language | Twich_Up
[21:08] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  iTunes doesn't behave with Wine
[21:08] <guntbert> guest9876765: thats why I suggested using a live CD
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> it never has
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> !appdb | Twich_Up
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> stupid lag on my end...
[21:09] <guest9876765> guntbert: am gone try mount rw / and try to write into /etc/soduers, see what happend
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> what's the best Ubuntu (or derivative) that will run on a low-RAM, low disk space HP Mini 110 netbook?
[21:09] <TheLordOfTime> (assuming i get drivers fixed and what not)
[21:10] <guntbert> guest9876765: Good luck!
[21:10] <guest9876765> thatnks, brb
[21:10] <marcappuccino> rymate1234 if your problem is purely gnome related, go to #gnome
[21:10] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  for iTunes, the only way to get it to work on Linux is to not use LInux.  That's one of those softwares that's evil.
[21:10] <Twich_Up> ...
[21:10] <Twich_Up> And VirtualBoxOSE ?
[21:10] <marcappuccino> (it is closed source)
[21:11] <marcappuccino> virtualbox with windows should work
[21:11] <Twich_Up> Great
[21:11] <marcappuccino> only if you have the windows dvd or iso
[21:11] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  should work
[21:11] <Twich_Up> So, i gonna search a Windobe CD... Bye !
[21:12] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  might be a pain to set up though
[21:12] <bekks> Twich_Up: Since vbox 4.0, they only thing not published as open source is the extension pack.
[21:12] <TheLordOfTime> Twich_Up:  also, you need a legal key, pirating Windows is not a good idea
[21:12] <Twich_Up> I know
[21:12] <Twich_Up> Iv' got a licence
[21:12] <tizbac> Twich_Up, i give you an advice , do not buy apple products
[21:12] <marcappuccino> windows 8 release candidate google it
[21:13] <Twich_Up> (Yeah, now i know)
[21:13] <TheHumanScience> so anyone know why xchat would be suddenly not installed on a laptop?
[21:13] <tizbac> they are overpriced , especially ipods and they give the same function if not less of chinese mp3 players
[21:13] <Twich_Up> Absolutly
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> TheHumanScience  sudo apt-get install xchat, or use synaptic or the software center
[21:13] <TheHumanScience> only thing i have done was adjusted the brightness controls
[21:14] <TheHumanScience> no it has been on my laptop for weeks...all of a sudden today i had to install it again
[21:14] <Twich_Up> I don't know why i'm obliged to use iTunes just for music... --' So stupid
[21:15] <TheLordOfTime> TheHumanScience:  could be a glitch or something, perhaps it got autoremoved by something else, or by an upgrade?
[21:15] <TheLordOfTime> TheHumanScience:  some dependent packages, when upgraded, sometimes break the software depending on them, so...
[21:15] <guntbert> Twich_Up: that is no ubuntu support problem - so please drop that discussion - here
[21:15] <TheHumanScience> no upgrades but i have updated a few times
[21:22] <marcappuccino> wow its quiet
[21:23] <ranveer5389> yeah it is :)
[21:23] <aviddd> anyone got pidgin-otr to compile in precise?
[21:23] <aviddd> v4.0 i mean
[21:23] <TheHumanScience> are backlight and brightness actually separate adjustments...i can adjust the brightness with xgamma but the contrast and other colors dont seem to be right. any ideas?
[21:26] <mib_mib>  hi guys, i installed rvm on one users account, but it isn't in the path for the other users account, how do i make it so both users can use rvm? do i need to duplicate the .rvm folder?
[21:26] <Morgawr> hello everyone.. I'm trying to run the new ubuntu beta (12.10) on a kvm virtual machine just to see how it goes.. however when I go installing it it says that it fails on the step "Select and Install Software" after asking me what type of updates I want to use (automatic, manual, etc etc)
[21:26] <Morgawr> is this a known issue?
[21:27] <thedangler> Anyone here have issues with ssh connection from mac to ubuntu?
[21:27] <guntbert> !12.10 | Morgawr
[21:27] <Morgawr> guntbert: alright
[21:27] <guntbert> !anyone | thedangler
[21:28] <thedangler> I have asked no one answers. I asked I can ssh to my mac but I can't ssh to the ubuntu box. it works randomly. I have an Airport Express router.
[21:29] <Morgawr> thedangler: is this related to ubuntu itself or linux? what is the command you are using to ssh? is the ssh server installed on the machine?
[21:29] <Morgawr> how's the network layout?
[21:29] <thedangler> no iptables set up. no firewall.
[21:30] <thedangler> yes ssh server is installed.. how would it work randomly if it wasn't.
[21:30] <guntbert> thedangler: what do the logs on ubuntu say? start ssh -v from the mac, so it gets more verbose
[21:30] <Morgawr> ah so sometimes it works.. sorry, didn't read that
[21:30] <thedangler> Im thinking its a network issue but not sure if its ubuntu or the router.  all computers internet works fine. just when I try to ssh to the ubuntu box do I have issues.
[21:31] <thedangler> guntbert done that. i get an Operation timed out. no real connection debug info is given
[21:31] <achandra> drussell, ping
[21:31] <guntbert> thedangler: at the same time: are you able to ping ubuntu?
[21:32] <TheHumanScience> Twich_Up: itunesubuntu.org
[21:32] <jeep> thedangler: if your at the ubuntu box does ssh localhost work even when the mac cant connect ?
[21:32] <TheHumanScience> i know that REALLY late
[21:32] <jrib> thedangler: are you using encrypted home directories?
[21:32] <guntbert> thedangler: another possibility: does DNS resolution work on the ubuntu box?
[21:33] <jeep> TheHumanScience: your a fast one!
[21:34] <dzup> thanks, i did a remount rw / and usermod <user> -G sudo root  reboot and am here again, but that was weird
[21:34] <dzup> guntbert, :)
[21:34] <jeep> dzup: welcome back
[21:34] <dzup> thatnks jeep :)
[21:34] <thedangler> jeep yes
[21:34] <guntbert> !yay | dzup
[21:35] <dzup> that was some weird deal :)
[21:35] <thedangler> guntbert  DNS resolution... not sure how would I check?
[21:35] <jeep> thedangler: then sshd is fine you can focus network/firewall issues
[21:36] <jeep> thedangler: what kind of router is it ?
[21:36] <thedangler> I have no firewalls up.  the only thing i can tink of is the airport express shitty router.
[21:36] <dzup> i was uploading my svn code to googlecode, 1/2 way into the submit power off for like 5 seconds, and when i reboot i was out :(
[21:36] <marcappuccino> please dont swear
[21:36] <taowa> I agree it is bad
[21:37] <guntbert> thedangler: you would notice it at once - try    host netzmafia.de    should return "immediateley" with an answer
[21:38] <Morgawr> quick and rather stupid question, what's the name of the login manager that ubuntu uses?
[21:38] <beboj> should I install debian?
[21:38] <jeep> !debian
[21:38] <marcappuccino> lightdm or the unity greeter
[21:39] <marcappuccino> (what they call the unity greeter (canonical))
[21:39] <Morgawr> marcappuccino: thanks
[21:39] <zeta-> Anyone know why haskell-platform is only 2012.1.0.0, when 2012,2,0,0 was released June 3 and is in quantal?
[21:39] <zeta-> Individual packages have been updated -- some newer than haskell-platform 2012,2,0,0 -- so I want just the platform.  Isn't the platform pkg just a list of pkg versions?
[21:40] <jrib> zeta-: are you asking a question about quantal?
[21:40] <marcappuccino> zeta-: #ubuntu+1
[21:40] <thedangler> guntbert worked fine...
[21:41] <thedangler> jeep  I'll have to steal a router from somewher and test it to see if its the express fault.
[21:41] <jeep> thedangler: do you use qos spi or any other feature in the router that does similar things ?
[21:41] <guntbert> thedangler: I thought so - did you try the ping at a time when you could not connect?
[21:42] <marcappuccino> jono bacon?(!)
[21:43] <thedangler> yeah, I can't ping to it.. which is odd.
[21:43] <zeta-> jrib: no, I'm on precise.  but there's the version I want available for quantal.
[21:43] <jeep> thedangler: it could be the wifi just drops thats why guntbert is inquiring about making outside connections
[21:43] <thedangler> when it doesn't work , i cant ping
[21:44] <jrib> zeta-: are you familiar with ubuntu's update policies on released versions?
[21:44] <jeep> thedangler: syslog have any errors ?
[21:44] <jono> marcappuccino, yup
[21:45] <marcappuccino> community manager?
[21:45] <jono> marcappuccino, yep
[21:45] <zeta-> jrib: not really ...
[21:45] <guntbert> thedangler: if you can't even ping I'd blame the wlan AP/router
[21:45] <jrib> !sru | zeta-
[21:45] <marcappuccino> oh! hello.
[21:45]  * zeta- isn't
[21:46] <jono> hey! :-)
[21:47] <jeep> thedangler: signal strength and neighbors wifi on same channel is next thing to check
[21:47] <beboj> thx jeep that was helpfull :P
[21:48] <ev__> anyone know vlc well? I am having the following error http://pastebin.com/avT961ec. trying  to stream to android device, for what its worth. thanks.
[21:48] <marcappuccino> i tried your recent quickly tutorial, jono, it was very good, though there was an error for me on the first self.something() bit for the refreshbutton. i wonder if you have heard this before from others?
[21:48] <datruth> How can I stop fsck from running at boot?
[21:48] <jono> marcappuccino, I haven't
[21:48] <jono> thanks for trying the tutorial!
[21:48] <hesgreat> anyone rent out cheap linux?
[21:48] <marcappuccino> ah ok must be me then.
[21:49] <jeep> hesgreat: ill rent you some ubuntu!
[21:49] <hesgreat> anyone rent out vps
[21:49] <hesgreat> ?
[21:49] <jeep> beboj: your welcome
[21:49] <zeta-> jrib: so why have all the pkgs that are contained in the platform been updated -- some newer than haskell-platform 2012,2,0,0?
[21:49] <hesgreat> anyone rent out vps
[21:49] <hesgreat> ?
[21:49] <jrib> hesgreat: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[21:49] <jeep> !patience > hesgreat
[21:51] <jrib> zeta-: I don't know how haskell packages are dealt with offhand
[21:51] <thedangler> jeep that effects it?  what should I look for in the syslog?
[21:52] <zeta-> jrib: Is there a way to use the pkg from Quantal?
[21:52] <jrib> zeta-: not supported, but sure you can try
[21:52] <marcappuccino> thedangler: i beleive you should look for an 'E: ' (for error)
[21:53] <Jordan_U> !prevu | zeta-
[21:53] <jeep> ev_: is there more error above what you posted ?
[21:53] <jeep> thedangler: if your wifi drops .. then you have no connection ping not working at same time ssh fails reflects this issue
[21:53] <zeta-> jrib: 8) thanks
[21:54] <jrib> zeta-: note there's an open bug against the quantal package
[21:54] <jeep> thedangler: if you look for wireless do you pick up multiple ones ?
[21:56]  * zeta- looking...
[21:57] <datruth> sigh
[22:03] <parto> Hae everyone. My thunderbird is using up 100% cpu. Anyhow to solve that? Using 11.04
[22:03] <noskcaj> upgrade to 12.04?
[22:03] <marcappuccino> that would solve a lot of prebems
[22:04] <parto> @noskcaj. Planning on doing that before the month ends but for now am stuck with 11.04
[22:05] <jeep> parto: have to tried disabling addons ?
[22:05] <marcappuccino> parto: system specs?
[22:06] <parto> jeep: Not yet. Let me try that and get back to you.
[22:06] <marcappuccino> bye all
[22:07] <dork> anyone have an issue with X not starting because of nvidia module stating: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error). (/dev/nvidia0 exists but when you cat it, you get i/o error)
[22:08] <BalthaTczar> Is there an easy way to set up an FTP server ?
[22:08] <BalthaTczar> preferably perhaps with a graphical user interface ?
[22:09] <parto> jeep: yah, cpu back to normal. Al just look into which addon is eating up my cpu. Thanxs alot :-)
[22:09] <jeep> BalthaTczar: ftp servers should be avoided what are you trying toaccomplish maybe there is a better way
[22:10] <jeep> parto: yeah system of elimination disable one at a time till you find it
[22:10] <BalthaTczar> jeep, i'd like to transfer files easily between my laptop and pc
[22:10] <jeep> BalthaTczar: linux on both ?
[22:10] <drchaos> Hello. I am on an old system with 512MB of RAM and a GeForce 4 MX 440 with 64MB of VRAM and AGP 8x
[22:10] <BalthaTczar> jeep, no linux on laptop and osx on computer
[22:11] <jeep> BalthaTczar: perfect i suggest using nfs
[22:11] <drchaos> I require to manually restart unity 2d shell after manually starting compiz to get "DAsh home"/Alt+F2 screens to appear
[22:11] <anuxi> hi!
[22:11] <jeep> !nfs
[22:11] <BalthaTczar> ok , i'll check that out
[22:11] <drchaos> it's strange...otherwise the applications panel does not appear
[22:11] <BalthaTczar> thnx
[22:13] <jeep> drchaos: have you ever tried fluxbox or window maker ?
[22:14] <jeep> drchaos: on a older system you may enjoy them
[22:15] <drchaos> jeep: huh?
[22:15] <drchaos> I'm enjoying Compiz it's just that it's buggy, probably something related to maximum texture size
[22:17] <AnDsO> how can i connect 10.0.0.3 system to 192.168.1.4 system by ststic routiing
[22:17] <AnDsO> static*
[22:18] <krupawan5618> Hi guys how do i boot into my ubuntu partition after i have it installed/
[22:18] <Jordan_U> krupawan5618: Normally you simply boot your machine. I'm guessing that's what's happening for you. What happens when you try to boot?
[22:19] <krupawan5618> it just boots into window
[22:19] <krupawan5618> s
[22:19] <Jordan_U> krupawan5618: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[22:19] <AnDsO> how can i connect 10.0.0.3 system to 192.168.1.4 system by ststic routiing
[22:19] <krupawan5618> no i created a partition on just one
[22:19] <krupawan5618> ubuntu guided me into the creation of this partition during the installation
[22:19] <drchaos> Gnome is loaded with Python apps, too heavyweight for this old computer
[22:20] <jeep> AnDsO: those are ips from two diffrent networks what are you trying to do?
[22:20] <faryshta> Hi. I have the ethernet manager configured to have two possible manual IP's. How can I make the second one the default?
[22:20] <drchaos> I just need 4GB of RAM
[22:20] <AnDsO> i juz wanna communicate
[22:20] <Jordan_U> krupawan5618: Did you use the automatic partitioning option of the installer? If not (you chose the "Something else" option), did you change the setting for where grub's boot sector should be installed?
[22:21] <krupawan5618> Grub does not even show up. I ddi use the automatic partitioning option
[22:21] <faryshta> I have the network manager configured to have two possible IP's set manually. How can I make the second one the default?
[22:21] <krupawan5618> No i did not change that setting
[22:21] <AnDsO> jeep:how can i create a static route for that
[22:21] <Jordan_U> krupawan5618: Please boot a LiveCD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | krupawan5618
[22:22] <AnDsO> both  are in simple lan
[22:22] <jeep> AnDsO: why dont you connect everything onto one network ?
[22:22] <AnDsO> i wanna learn routing :)
[22:23] <zeta-> jrib: you still around?
[22:23] <jeep> AnDsO: you need a computer connected to both networks do you have that ?
[22:23] <AnDsO> is it possible to connect both
[22:23] <krupawan5618> how do i even run ubuntu after i put in the usb, do i choose run ubuntu without installing?
[22:23] <krupawan5618> There's no option to just run ubuntu
[22:23] <AnDsO> i juz connected via switch
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> krupawan5618:  "Try ubuntu before installing" is the right option, but your data won't be "saved"
[22:24] <drchaos> how do I remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[22:24] <drchaos> I want all the Gnome crap gone
[22:25] <jeep> AnDsO: you need router1 --> computer1-nic1 router2 --> computer1-nic2
[22:26] <zeta-> jrib: seems that pkg haskell-platform 2012.1.0.0 _has_ been updated to what 2012.2 should be! :-s
[22:26] <krupawan5618> will do. i will return shortly as the username otter
[22:26] <thedangler> jeep sorry.  the internet works fine only issue I have is trying to connect to my ubuntu box over ssh.
[22:26] <datruth> Maximum mount count:      -1 <-- would this make my system run fsck every boot
[22:27] <AnDsO> so its not possible only by creating routing table in ubuntu
[22:27] <jeep> drchaos: apt-get remove offensive-package
[22:28] <otterpaw> ok, so I had the ubuntu disc check itself for errors
[22:28] <otterpaw> so that's currently running
[22:28] <otterpaw> also, he lied, he was just helping me with my computer, I'm not him
[22:28] <TheLordOfTime> jeep:  that only removes the metapackage, not the gnome stuffs that are referred to by that package
[22:33] <otterpaw> Ok, so I ran the script and got "bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Input/output error
[22:33] <jeep> AnDsO: you need the hardware to go with the ubuntu
[22:34] <otterpaw> I'm dumb, never mind
[22:34] <otterpaw> I forgot to get the file -_-
[22:34] <BalthaTczar> Seems i've lost my audio driver, any easy way to figure out what i need and install it ?
[22:35] <BalthaTczar> Sound settings only gives me a Dummy Output sound option
[22:35] <Zayca> what do you think about site we makes esterday? this is it http://mebelko39.ru :D
[22:36] <Jordan_U> !ot | Zayca
[22:36] <AnDsO> u mean 2 nics?
[22:36] <Zayca> what do you think about site we makes esterday? this is it -->   http://mebelko39.ru :D I need true.
[22:36] <Zayca> ubottu ok :(
[22:36] <Zayca> ubottu but here is so much people
[22:37] <jeep> Zayca: is it running ubuntu and apache ?
[22:37] <DuhIdiot> Somebody who's less of a dumb noob than me please help:
[22:38] <parto> Zayca, what language is that?
[22:38] <Zayca> jeep almous.. it is in joomla
[22:38] <parto> DuhIdiot, what's up?
[22:38] <jeep> looks like russian maybe
[22:38] <Zayca> jeep O! joomla is opensoursed :D
[22:38] <Zayca> parto it is russia
[22:38] <Zayca> *n
[22:38] <DuhIdiot> I'm trying to create a partition into which to install Zorin 6 (I hope it's OK that this isn't exactly an Ubuntu issue)
[22:38] <debiantoruser> UBUNTU!
[22:39] <jeep> !zorin
[22:39] <Jordan_U> DuhIdiot: This channel only supports Ubuntu.
[22:39] <jeep> DuhIdiot: ubuntu is the one true linux we only assist with ubuntu here!
[22:41] <parto> DuhIdiot, Ubuntu stuff only
[22:41] <Zayca> Lets talk about something in time i am here!
[22:41] <otterpaw> The boot_info_script won't run
[22:41] <DuhIdiot> Righty-O.
[22:42] <xid> anyone have a suggestion for the easiest way to automatically  create users from LDAP or kerberos from a Windows Active Directory server?
[22:42] <jeep> Zayca: only if your time issue is setting the clock in ubuntu
[22:42] <otterpaw> I followed the directions to the T, but I'm getting that there's no such file or directoruy
[22:42] <unless> Does anybody here knows how to install open MPI oven Ubuntu by any chance?
[22:42] <Zayca> jeep i am windowsed
[22:42] <otterpaw> I can see the file too
[22:43] <TJ-> otterpaw: how are you trying to run it, and from which directory relative to the file?
[22:43] <otterpaw> I'm running it from the terminal, and the downloads directory
[22:44] <TJ-> otterpaw: firstly, a file must have eXecute permissions for your user; second, if it isn't in the shell's PATH you have to specify it's path and name to start it. By default - unlike Windows - Linux does NOT include the current directory in the PATH
[22:44] <TJ-> otterpaw: So, assuming the file is executable you'd run a program in the same directory using ./<programname>
[22:45] <otterpaw> I ran sudo bash ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript*.sh
[22:45] <otterpaw> I also tried boot_info_script
[22:45] <otterpaw> but the actual file was no spaces, so I figured that the post was an older version
[22:45] <TJ-> otterpaw: "*" is not a legal character in a filename. That's a shell glob expansion character.
[22:46] <otterpaw> I'm sorry, I'm new to linux and don't know what you mean by a "shell glop expansion character"
[22:46] <TJ-> otterpaw: does the script have execute permissions "ls -l ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript*.sh" ?
[22:46] <otterpaw> How do I check?
[22:47] <TJ-> otterpaw: ^^^ I just gave you the command to use to check
[22:47] <otterpaw> ooh, sorry]
[22:48] <TJ-> Computer Studies at Pitt? hmmmph!
[22:48] <otterpaw> no such file or directory :(
[22:48] <trever> Um
[22:48] <otterpaw> I could just drag-drop
[22:48] <TJ-> otterpaw: Does the file exist ?
[22:48] <otterpaw> the file
[22:49] <trever> Can anyone tell me how to get minecraft to work, it was working before but now it's not
[22:49] <otterpaw> It exists, I have the folder with it open
[22:49] <TJ-> otterpaw: use "ls" to check if you've got the filename exactly correct: "ls -l ~/Downloads/*.sh"
[22:49] <otterpaw> TJ: As a freshman CS major, I feel like I'm obligated to learn linux :p
[22:49] <TJ-> otterpaw: I agree with you 200% :p
[22:50] <TJ-> otterpaw: We'll help you get there :)
[22:50] <fdds> why do I get put in ubuntu chan when starting xchat?
[22:50] <TJ-> fdds: Because it's the friendliest channel around?
[22:50] <otterpaw> well, the directory doesn't exist haha
[22:50] <fdds> and where are proxy settings in xchat2 gnome these days?
[22:50] <TJ-> otterpaw: Hmmm!
[22:50] <otterpaw> do I need quotes?
[22:50] <TJ-> otterpaw: How can you be 'seeing' it if the directory doesn't exist?
[22:50] <otterpaw> or something to signify?
[22:50] <otterpaw> No idea, I have the folder open
[22:51] <TJ-> otterpaw: What's the complete path to the folder?
[22:51] <otterpawOnLaptop> ls -1 '/home/ubuntu/Downloads/bootinfoscript'
[22:51] <otterpawOnLaptop> works
[22:51] <otterpawOnLaptop> I drag-dropped
[22:52] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: sudo /home/ubuntu/Downloads/bootinfoscript
[22:52] <fdds> someone point me to support for xchat irc client, need to know how to setup proxies...
[22:53] <MonkeyDust> !proxy > fdds
[22:53] <otterpawOnLaptop> http://pastebin.com/8Bh5M5K1
[22:54] <otterpawOnLaptop> My problem is that Grub isn't working
[22:55] <otterpawOnLaptop> I don't see it on startup at all
[22:55] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: The probelm is that grub isn't installed at all. That doesn't make much sense if you ran Ubuntu's installer with default options and didn't see any error messages.
[22:56] <otterpawOnLaptop> That's weird
[22:56] <otterpawOnLaptop> I'm running this off of the image right now, but I know that it installed
[22:56] <otterpawOnLaptop> I saw the partitions made for Ubuntu
[22:56] <aperson> I have an acer aspire one netbook and two-finger scrolling does not work (option is grayed out).  the wiki states that it works out of the box.  what can I do to enable this?
[22:57] <TJ-> Jordan_U: otterpaw What is 'installed' is a pendrive image of the liveCD
[22:57] <otterpawOnLaptop> I know, but I went through the main install
[22:57] <TJ-> Jordan_U: scratch that! My eyes scanned the info wrong!
[22:57] <Jordan_U> TJ-: There is also an Ubuntu installation there, just no grub.
[22:57] <otterpawOnLaptop> odd
[22:57] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I read the sdb as sda :p
[22:58] <otterpawOnLaptop> is there an external way to install grub?
[22:58] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[22:58] <otterpawOnLaptop> should I use a different loader?
[22:58] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: No.
[22:58] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Maybe the BIOS has boot-sector protection enabled? That would prevent GRUB from updating the Windows MBR
[22:58] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Everything else in sda5 looks good
[22:59] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Many people have talked about BIOSs protecting the MBR, I've never encountered such a thing before though. I think that's most likely just a myth.
[22:59] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I have!
[22:59] <otterpaw> mdadm command not found
[22:59] <TJ-> Jordan_U: took me an hour to figure it out too.. so I remember it well :)
[23:00] <cloudgeek> just installed -jar file of UMl tool from topcoder , how i invoke it again
[23:00] <cloudgeek> or open to participate in maraton
[23:00] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: "Only If the normal system partition(s) are on a software RAID (otherwise skip this step)" Your partitions are not on software RAID.
[23:01] <TJ-> Jordan_U: otterpaw Anyhow, it looks like just the MBR. You could do a 2-stage fix. 1. do grub-setup from the pendrive just for the MBR, boot Ubuntu, then "update-grub" to pick up Windows. or 2. use the pendrive to set-up a chroot /target and do it in there
[23:02] <Jordan_U> TJ-: The grub.cfg already has an entry for Windows, and it's better to run grub-install than to try to run grub-setup manually.
[23:03] <TJ-> Jordan_U: So it does ... I obviously need sleep, I'm not seeing things right in front of me
[23:03] <otterpaw> Just so you know, I have no knowledge of the terminal right now, so I'm completely lost on the error codes when I enter commands
[23:03] <otterpaw> Jordan_U: so there's a windows installer?
[23:04] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: A windows installer for what?
[23:04] <otterpaw> Jordan_U: grub
[23:04] <TJ-> otterpaw: The overview is this, there's 446 bytes in the first sector of the boot disk that currently contain the Windows boot-strap loader. GRUB should have replaced that with it's own boot-strap, but for some reason, hasn't
[23:04] <otterpaw> Jordan_U: "The grub.cfg already has an entry for Windows"
[23:05] <otterpaw> ah
[23:05] <otterpaw> so windows is still just being a dick
[23:05] <otterpaw> I spent all of yesterday trying to figure why they needed to make 4 partitions on my laptop to begin with
[23:06] <otterpaw> And then deleted the Factory Reset partition after making an image
[23:06] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: You can install grub from Windows, but it's much easier to install from Ubuntu. My comment about the grub.cfg was simply stating that grub is already configured to be able to boot Windows, once you've actually run grub-install to install grub's boot sector.
[23:06] <otterpaw> ok
[23:06] <TJ-> otterpaw: that boot-strap loader is small so all it can do is find and load a few more sectors from the disk which contain some more substantial code for booting. That code is usually stored in sectors 2 to approx 2000. *that* code will then find and read the partition with the grub modules and menu in (/boot/grub/) and finally do the menu and/or load the default/chosen OS
[23:07] <TJ-> otterpaw: So far as we can tell all that is missing is the first sector. It may be that the following stage sectors aren't there also, but we'd need to test to discover that.
[23:08] <otterpaw> TJ-: Ok
[23:08] <otterpaw> TJ-: Can you guide me through this in your best "for dummies" impersonation?
[23:08] <TJ-> otterpaw: what's the make/model of that PC? I can check if it has proper BIOS boot-sector protection that may stop the boot sector being written
[23:09] <TJ-> otterpaw: I'm trying my hardest already :D
[23:09] <otterpaw> TJ-: Lenovo Y580
[23:09] <BebopSteve> How do I compile one pdf from 702 single page pdfs?
[23:09] <otterpaw> TJ-: There are two variations of the Y580, mine is the 1080p one
[23:09] <otterpaw> TJ-: The name is the same though
[23:09] <TJ-> otterpaw: thanks
[23:10] <TJ-> otterpaw: You'll be please to know, that model has caused this exact same issue for others installing Ubuntu
[23:10] <otterpawOnLaptop> haha
[23:10] <otterpawOnLaptop> alright
[23:11] <TJ-> otterpaw: for reference the thread that contains this particular comment talks about it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12163110&postcount=10
[23:12] <cloudgeek> how execute a .jnlp file !
[23:13] <Jordan_U> TJ-: My recommendation is to simply run grub-install (following the directions I already linked otterpaw to) and see what happens. After running grub-install we can re-run boot info script to confirm that grub's boot sector is in the MBR.
[23:13] <otterpawOnLaptop> I'm sort of at a loss with the grub install
[23:14] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Interestingly, the people who've suffered this say the disk came with a GPT and the MBR is the standard defensive one
[23:14] <otterpawOnLaptop> by normal system partition, does it mean the ubuntu partition or the windows one?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> TJ-: That sounds like it's simply an issue of the drive looking for a UEFI loader, with Ubuntu only installing a BIOS based one. A: That's not what's happening here and B: That is not "Boot sector protection".
[23:15] <TJ-> One person says that "boot_repair" fixed it on Ubuntu for him
[23:15] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: The Ubuntu one, though in your case neither are using Software RAID.
[23:16] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Agreed.
[23:16] <rweait> just installed Precise after long use of Lucid.  How do I go back to old desktop paradigm?
[23:17] <otterpawOnLaptop> sudo mount /dev/sda5
[23:17] <otterpawOnLaptop> mount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:18] <otterpawOnLaptop> oh wait, it needs "/mnt:
[23:18] <otterpawOnLaptop> never mind
[23:18] <wuwoot> am I actually using ssh when i use the ssh command from terminal in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:19] <otterpawOnLaptop> separate boot partition?
[23:19] <otterpawOnLaptop> does that mean a partition to boot Ubuntu or a separate bootable partition?
[23:21] <aminosamigos__> hello i ran out of space on my disk after a file recovery operation i deleted the files then emptied the trash but when i run disk analyzr it says that my .local/share/trash is 40 Gb
[23:21] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: You don't have a separate /boot/ partition.
[23:21] <otterpawOnLaptop> ok
[23:22] <otterpawOnLaptop> it looks like it probably worked
[23:22] <otterpawOnLaptop> I'm going to reset
[23:23] <aminosamigos__> i couldn't find out how to delete those but after a reboot the system wont start and first it runs on a low graphics mode but even that crashes when i choose the run low graphic option
[23:23] <aminosamigos__> i am booting from a live Cd now
[23:24] <aminosamigos__> is there a way to empty that folder from here ?
[23:24] <otterpaw> It didn't work Q_Q
[23:24] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: Please run boot info script again.
[23:24] <otterpaw> ok
[23:24] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, i think just mount the partition
[23:25] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: I'm going to be away for about 10 minutes, but I will be back.
[23:25] <otterpaw> ok
[23:25] <otterpaw> Thank you so much for the help
[23:25] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: What was the exact grub-install command you ran near the end of those instructions?
[23:26] <unless> I am facing a issue when configuring a application to install : checking size of Fortran 77 INTEGER*8... configure: error: Could not determine size of INTEGER*8
[23:26] <otterpaw> I'm dumb
[23:26] <otterpaw> grub-install /dev/sdX
[23:26] <otterpaw> I copy pasted
[23:26] <aminosamigos__> WeThePeople:  nautilus keeps saying that i don't have permission to access the .local directory
[23:26] <unless> Does anybody have any idea about how to solve it please?
[23:27] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, run sudo i first then nautilus
[23:28] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: You needed to replace the "X" with the proper letter for your drive, in your case you should have run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda".
[23:28] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, sudo -i
[23:28] <otterpaw> yeah
[23:28] <otterpaw> I realized as soon as I reread it haha
[23:28] <Muelli> arrgs. My middle click is gone. Now I can't use the cut buffer. I tried various things with synclient but still no luck. Anybody else in that situation with a remedy?
[23:29] <p0rk> im getting crazy packet losses only on my ubuntu box
[23:30] <aminosamigos__> well i am root WeThePeople
[23:30] <aminosamigos__> what to do ?
[23:30] <p0rk> it just comes and goes
[23:30] <p0rk> ill ping google sometimes and it will sit still for 30 seconds, then take off with pings
[23:30] <p0rk> sporadically
[23:30] <bolosaur> TJ-: You there mate? :D
[23:30] <otterpaw> do I want to mount the small linux partition, or the large one?
[23:30] <bolosaur> I'm sitting here troubleshooting my wifi again.
[23:30] <bolosaur> Was wondering if you could help. :)
[23:31] <otterpaw> "Linux" or "Linux swap / Solaris"
[23:31] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, can you look at the contents of the folder?
[23:31] <dr_willis> otterpaw:  you dont mount swap
[23:32] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, i think you have to su into root, i think..
[23:32] <bdot> what's the diffrence btw http://www.abc.com and http://www.abc.com/
[23:32] <bustacap> How can I increase the brightness of my webcam so people can actually see me o.O
[23:32] <WeThePeople> nothing
[23:33] <otterpaw> dr_willis: Ok, so the larger partition then
[23:33] <aminosamigos__> i am working from a lice Cd now
[23:33] <TJ-> bolosaur: What are you going to tax me with tonight!?
[23:33] <fidel> bustacap: background light in the room ;)
[23:33] <aminosamigos__> *live
[23:33] <WeThePeople> find out what the forward slash means in a url
[23:33] <bolosaur> TJ-: Same thing as every night.
[23:33] <bolosaur> To take over the world.
[23:33] <bolosaur> Erm no. Same thing as yesterday - wifi. :D
[23:33] <bustacap> Fidel, even with a light right in my face I can't see myself. It's an old webcam and really really dark. I always needed to make it brighter in windows too.
[23:34] <bolosaur> You were talking about checking the frequency of my Ubuntu machine's network connection iirc?
[23:34] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, i think you have to su into the mounted partition
[23:34] <bolosaur> to make sure it's on the same wavelength as my other devices I recall?
[23:34] <bolosaur> Okay what the hell. My Ubuntu machine just SHUT ITSELF OFF.
[23:34] <Uncle_> Hey guys. Do you know a good MMO space simulator for Linux (besides Vendetta)? :)
[23:34] <bolosaur> Rofl.
[23:35] <WeThePeople> aminosamigos__, ask dr_willis he may know
[23:35] <TJ-> bolosaur: It saw me coming! I've just grepped our conversation from yesterday to refresh my memory!
[23:35] <aminosamigos__> dr_willis:  could you please help me ?
[23:35] <bolosaur> TJ-: Sorry. I shouldn't have assumed that you remembered. :)
[23:36] <bolosaur> But yeah, let me know if I can clarify anything for you.
[23:36] <bolosaur> Because hey! What's better on a friday night than helping a complete stranger set up a ghetto wifi
[23:36] <bolosaur> ;)
[23:36] <otterpaw> TJ-: Jordan_U : didn't work :(
[23:36] <jeep> bolosaur: doing it while drinking ?
[23:36] <bolosaur> Nope - I don't drink. :P
[23:37] <bolosaur> But I admit it would make things more interesting.
[23:37] <TJ-> bolosaur: My memory gets shot when I help several people... they all seem to merge into one mush :) I have it now... adhoc Ubuntu not being seen by other WiFi clients
[23:37] <bolosaur> TJ-: Gotcha, and yes, that's it!
[23:38] <TJ-> bolosaur: As you were leaving I said "802.11b/g is at 2.4GHz, 802.11a is at 5GHz. it is possible that is different at one end. You can explicitly set the band to make sure that isn't the issue"
[23:38] <bolosaur> Yeah. How can I find those parameters?
[23:39] <damianos> is pppd no longer in the ubuntu repos?
[23:40] <TJ-> bolosaur: It's in the network connections dialog for the connection you created
[23:40] <otterpawOnLaptop> http://pastebin.com/1JhMc5LN
[23:41] <WeThePeople> bolosaur, what wifi drivers you need
[23:41] <TJ-> bolosaur: When I create an adhoc connection using the NetworkManager applet, the Connection dailog's first tab is "Wireless" and on there is "Mode" and "Band". You can change Band if the hardware supports more than one bad.
[23:42] <bolosaur> WeThePeople: None. My shared wifi just won't show up on any computer
[23:42] <bolosaur> or device
[23:42] <GH0> Is there any way to have Ubuntu e-mail updates, security logs, etc nightly/weekly? Sortave like what Mandriva used to do before it sucked.
[23:42] <bolosaur> TJ-: let me see.
[23:42] <bolosaur> one sec :D
[23:42] <blackshirt> yes
[23:42] <bolosaur> (on a side note, im really starting to love linux :) )
[23:43] <blackshirt> bolosaur..that was great
[23:43] <TJ-> bolosaur: I know, it's catching. I'm currently moving my primary setup to a 2nd laptop and it's great fun :)
[23:43] <datruth> How can I disable the network manager from starting up at boot time this modem-manger?
[23:43] <bolosaur> one sec, the comp is booting again after shutting off (might be some dust in the fan or outdated bios or something)
[23:43] <blackshirt> gho, what you need
[23:43] <TJ-> bolosaur: dust can kill the machine
[23:44] <bolosaur> Yeah it's a really old machine that's been in my closet for like, years
[23:44] <bolosaur> i should probably open it up and vacuum it
[23:44] <dr_willis> !find pppd
[23:44] <blackshirt> datruth, disable on start up manager
[23:45] <datruth> blackshirt: network services?
[23:45] <TJ-> bolosaur: This one I just bought on ebay, it was trying to melt the GPU ... I opened it up, there was a 1cm thick mat of fluff between the fan and the radiator outlets! I removed the heatsink too, replaced the thermal compound, and its happy as anything now
[23:45] <p0rk> is there anyway at all to take advantage of 2x gigabit nics on ubuntu with the same subnet?
[23:45] <WeThePeople> lshw
[23:45] <WeThePeople> in terminal
[23:45] <TJ-> p0rk: bond them with a vlan
[23:45] <blackshirt> datruth, eventually you can use update-rc.d to disable them
[23:45] <dr_willis> then the hard drive speeds will be the botteneck. ;)
[23:46] <p0rk> do i need a specific switch for that?
[23:46] <p0rk> TJ-, i know nothing about VLAN's either
[23:46] <TJ-> p0rk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[23:46] <p0rk> thank you
[23:47] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: What was the last grub-install command you ran and what did it output?
[23:47] <p0rk> i just dont want to get ridiculous with the networking, its for my home
[23:47] <otterpaw> Jordan_U: it was grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX
[23:47] <otterpaw> oh
[23:47] <otterpaw> I'm so dumb
[23:47] <datruth> blackshirt: update-rc.d disable modemmanger?
[23:47] <otterpaw> but I did run grub-install /dev/sda
[23:47] <otterpaw> and it said that that worked
[23:48] <p0rk> WeThePeople, were you wanting me to run lshw?
[23:48] <jagginess> otterpaw, usually people do update-grub2<enter> do update grub.cfg too
[23:48] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: Please run it again and save the output, and don't reboot until I tell you to.
[23:48] <otterpaw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[23:48] <TJ-> damianos: pppd is in the package "ppp"
[23:49] <WeThePeople> p0rk,no
[23:51] <otterpawOnLaptop> ok Jordan_U http://pastebin.com/UhcnBwa1
[23:51] <bustacap> If anyone was wondering I found a program called "guvcview" which you can adjust brightmess of a crappy webcam ;)
[23:52] <jagginess> bustacap, that word isnt in the dictionary, brightmess, you sure don't sound bright in any case!
[23:52] <jagginess> lol
[23:52] <bustacap> Lol
[23:53] <p0rk> what is 802.3ad?
[23:53] <p0rk> do i need that feature on my switch for bonding to work?
[23:54] <jagginess> p0rk, wikipedia can tell you
[23:55] <jagginess> p0rk, i doubt it, usually trunking means way more expensive hardware equipment
[23:55] <damianos> thanks tj; actually I noticed that either openswan or xl2tp installed it by default
[23:56] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: Try running just "grub-install" with no other arguments and pastebin the output.
[23:57] <otterpawOnLaptop> from root@ubuntu:?
[23:57] <bolosaur>  <TJ-> bolosaur: This one I just bought on ebay, it was trying to melt the GPU ... I opened it up, there was a 1cm thick mat of fluff between the fan and the radiator outlets! I removed the heatsink too, replaced the thermal compound, and its happy as anything now
[23:57] <bolosaur> thats cool haha
[23:57] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: Yes.
[23:57] <bolosaur> i hope mine hasnt melted :P
[23:58] <bolosaur> by the way, what specifically do you want me to do here regarding the wifi? because i cant see anything relevant anywhere
[23:58] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: Installation finished. No error reported.
[23:58] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: OK, the problem is that you have grub-efi installed rather than grub-pc. grub-efi never changes the MBR (and simply ignores a device argument if you pass it one).
[23:58] <TJ-> bolosaur: Do you see on the "Wireless" tab that option "Band" ?
[23:58] <bolosaur> ooooooh wait
[23:58] <bolosaur> i see it now
[23:58] <bolosaur> yeah i totally missed the "band" entry
[23:58] <bolosaur> which one should i pick?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: apt-get install grub-pc
[23:58] <bolosaur> 5 or 2,4?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: And please post the output.