[07:10] <ochosi> knome: about the icon themes: if we had known this earlier, we could've pumped up elementary-xfce so much that we don't need gnome at all (in fact i'm not sure we need it really, would be worth some testing)
[07:41] <knome> ochosi, well, we can still do it...
[07:42] <knome> ochosi, but yeah, i suppose we should have looked at it before
[08:12] <elfy> hi noskcaj :) 
[08:12] <noskcaj> hey
[08:18] <elfy> to be frank I only ever use the wiki testcases we were told to use - which are a whole lot different than the testcases on the tracker thing
[08:21] <smartboyhw> elfy: Have you ever heard of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseAdmins ? That's the team who writes the testcases in QA Tracker:)
[08:23] <elfy> of course I have - but I don't take much notice 
[08:24] <smartboyhw> OH yeah!
[08:24] <smartboyhw> You use the wiki ones:)
[08:25] <Unit193> I actually just use wget -qO- domain.tld/xtest |sh   to tell me what to do. :)
[08:25] <smartboyhw> ;)
[08:26] <Unit193> !pm | smartboyhw 
[08:26] <smartboyhw> Unit193: I think that question can be talked in #ubuntu-beginners-team ;) GO there:)
[08:27] <smartboyhw> Sorry btw
[08:27] <Unit193> I have no question, so...
[08:27] <smartboyhw> My question
[08:27] <smartboyhw> I wanna ask you sth
[09:01] <ochosi> knome: ok, so we should ask ppl with vboxes to uninstall the gnome-icon-theme and see what happens :p (i destroyed mine with the ubiquity testing and can't reinstall before the weekend
[09:02] <knome> heh
[09:02] <knome> right
[09:14] <Unit193> Meh, I'll do it after updates.
[09:15] <ochosi> thanks
[09:15] <Unit193> Anyone else getting the gnome-keyring thing again?
[09:16] <Unit193> By standers: evince* gnome-icon-theme* humanity-icon-theme* network-manager-gnome* simple-scan* system-config-printer-gnome*
[09:17] <mr_pouit> yeah, you can't get rid of gnome-icon-theme (only gnome-icon-theme-full if it's installed, but I don't think it is by default)
[09:18] <ochosi> meh
[09:19] <Unit193> It isn't.
[09:43] <ochosi> wth, why can everyone just mess with the bugtracker
[09:43] <ochosi> someone just unlinked bug #1010487 from bug #744283 without explanation/comment
[09:46] <noskcaj> i have to agree with them as they are different
[09:46] <noskcaj> just they have the same solution it seems
[09:51] <Unit193> ochosi: Someone moved a bug I was following from the correct location, to a defunct project that wasn't right, very annoying.
[09:52] <ochosi> yeah, there should be some restrictions at least
[09:52] <ochosi> as in: you have to add a comment if you unlink a bug
[09:54] <smartboyhw> Anyway I marked it again...
[09:55] <smartboyhw> It IS clearly a duplicate as I said yesterday
[09:55] <ochosi> well it doesn't make much sense to go back and forth between marking it as duplicate and unmarking it
[09:56] <ochosi> i'd just wait, the bug should be resolved soon anyway
[09:56]  * ochosi keeps fingers crossed
[09:56] <smartboyhw> Er alright.
[09:56]  * smartboyhw keeps fingers crossed too
[10:38] <knome> pleia2, we need to have lunch/dinner with stgraber at UDS
[10:49] <mips1911> i ran a update this morning and my network no longer works
[10:50] <mips1911> I can't use network manager either as everything is greyed out?
[10:50] <pnarciso> todays update also broke software center
[10:50] <mips1911> you got the same issue?
[10:51] <mips1911> only interface I have listed in ifconfig if lo
[10:51] <mips1911> anyway I can rollback?
[10:54] <pnarciso> I have cable internet, and I wasn't affected
[10:55] <pnarciso> software-center 5.3.11, can you see if it's also installed in your system, and see if it starts?
[10:57] <mips1911> ubuntu software center starts here
[10:58] <pnarciso> is it version 5.3.11
[11:00] <mips1911> no, 5.3.10
[11:01] <pnarciso> it's 5.3.11 that's crashing
[11:01] <pnarciso> previous version worked
[11:02] <pnarciso> but that update will land sooner or later
[11:06] <mips1911> Thing is I can't do anything without network access. So I need to get this fixed somehow
[11:06] <pnarciso> time for reinstall :)
[11:07] <mips1911> no can do
[11:07] <mips1911> I can't see my ethernet interface anymore
[11:08] <mips1911> there must be a way to get it back
[11:12] <pnarciso> do you have network-manager-gnome installed
[11:15] <pnarciso> also, run nm-applet in the terminal and see what it do
[11:37] <mips1911> guys I really need some help with this network issue, can no longer see my eth interface
[11:40] <ochosi> mips1911: i guess #xubuntu would be the right channel for support
[11:40] <mips1911> for 12.10?
[12:06] <ochosi> mips1911: no, for that you could go to #ubuntu+1
[12:15] <mips1911> ochosi: figured it out, somehow my eth interface got renamed to "p17p1" ???
[17:29] <drc> 7 sept daily (64) on a USB stick boots through the new xubuntu splash screen does display (makes me thing of kubuntu with the rings towards the bottom) a "pixelated" black and white diagonal (to left to bottom right) screen and stops.  A <quick> look at the MLs and the ubuntu beta (which has similiar problems for me) release notes show nothing.
[17:30] <drc> I'm assuming it's a problem with the video drivers?  BTW I have a 256MB nVidia GeForce 8400M GS
[17:32] <drc> Is this one of reason that xubuntu decided not to release as a beta?
[17:33] <drc> opps..sorry, just realized this is -devel :(  I'll gladly move this to the main channel.
[17:36] <mips1911> how hard is it to remaster the netinstall image to include extra packages from a current install?
[18:27] <SkippersBoss> evening
[20:05] <noskcaj> if anyone can help improve this tesstcase for the iso tracker can they please edit/fix it
[20:08] <noskcaj> after any changes send a changelog to doak.jackson@gmail.com
[20:08] <pleia2> noskcaj: the /Short and /Long tests?
[20:09] <pleia2> I'm actually not sure where we are with moving them
[20:09] <noskcaj> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gZwZLrdmzNiFzR6ho6oSEEdhwmZ5lsc-YCGz0patXYw/edit
[20:09] <pleia2> is that a version of the /Short or /Long?
[20:09] <noskcaj> that is the draft for changes to the iso trackers version of the testcase
[20:10] <pleia2> right, I am trying to figure out which testcase :)
[20:10] <noskcaj> i'm merging parts of the /short and /long testcases of the wiki
[20:10] <pleia2> gotcha
[20:41] <noskcaj> can someone run the xubuntu daily and64 because it seems to have a login loop but it might just be my VM
[20:42] <pleia2> I am not having that problem
[20:42] <pleia2> did both VM and hardware installs, 64 and 32-bit
[20:44] <noskcaj> was your VM qemu
[20:45] <pleia2> no, virtualbox
[20:48] <noskcaj> then qemu is to blame
[20:49] <pleia2> wow, my menu on my hardware system is some kind of asian language
[20:49] <pleia2> it wasn't online when I did the install
[20:56] <pleia2> ah, I see what I did
[20:57] <pleia2> PEBKAC
[20:58] <noskcaj> pleia2: did you choose manual login?
[20:58] <pleia2> it was manual login, I didn't log in with default english ;)
[20:58] <pleia2> did you do auto login?
[21:01] <noskcaj> manual, in english
[21:02] <noskcaj> i'm seeing if virtual box makes it work for me
[21:41] <noskcaj> the auto-login in virtualbox works fine, does that meen its a bug in qemu?
[21:47] <Sysi> could be
[21:47] <Sysi> noskcaj: try removing ~/.ICEauthority
[21:48] <noskcaj> i dont have that folder
[21:52] <Sysi> I think it's single file, can still be missing though
[21:59] <noskcaj> yes it was, i have now deleted it