[07:10] <ochosi> knome: about the icon themes: if we had known this earlier, we could've pumped up elementary-xfce so much that we don't need gnome at all (in fact i'm not sure we need it really, would be worth some testing)
[07:41] <knome> ochosi, well, we can still do it...
[07:42] <knome> ochosi, but yeah, i suppose we should have looked at it before
[08:12] <elfy> hi noskcaj :) 
[08:12] <noskcaj> hey
[08:18] <elfy> to be frank I only ever use the wiki testcases we were told to use - which are a whole lot different than the testcases on the tracker thing
[08:21] <smartboyhw> elfy: Have you ever heard of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseAdmins ? That's the team who writes the testcases in QA Tracker:)
[08:23] <elfy> of course I have - but I don't take much notice 
[08:24] <smartboyhw> OH yeah!
[08:24] <smartboyhw> You use the wiki ones:)
[08:25] <Unit193> I actually just use wget -qO- domain.tld/xtest |sh   to tell me what to do. :)
[08:25] <smartboyhw> ;)
[08:26] <Unit193> !pm | smartboyhw 
[08:26] <ubottu> smartboyhw: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[08:26] <smartboyhw> Unit193: I think that question can be talked in #ubuntu-beginners-team ;) GO there:)
[08:27] <smartboyhw> Sorry btw
[08:27] <Unit193> I have no question, so...
[08:27] <smartboyhw> My question
[08:27] <smartboyhw> I wanna ask you sth
[09:01] <ochosi> knome: ok, so we should ask ppl with vboxes to uninstall the gnome-icon-theme and see what happens :p (i destroyed mine with the ubiquity testing and can't reinstall before the weekend
[09:02] <knome> heh
[09:02] <knome> right
[09:14] <Unit193> Meh, I'll do it after updates.
[09:15] <ochosi> thanks
[09:15] <Unit193> Anyone else getting the gnome-keyring thing again?
[09:16] <Unit193> By standers: evince* gnome-icon-theme* humanity-icon-theme* network-manager-gnome* simple-scan* system-config-printer-gnome*
[09:17] <mr_pouit> yeah, you can't get rid of gnome-icon-theme (only gnome-icon-theme-full if it's installed, but I don't think it is by default)
[09:18] <ochosi> meh
[09:19] <Unit193> It isn't.
[09:43] <ochosi> wth, why can everyone just mess with the bugtracker
[09:43] <ochosi> someone just unlinked bug #1010487 from bug #744283 without explanation/comment
[09:44] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1010487 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu - black windows" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010487
[09:44] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 744283 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Steps "Preparing to install" and "Erase disk" are unreadable with high-contrast theme enabled" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744283
[09:46] <noskcaj> i have to agree with them as they are different
[09:46] <noskcaj> just they have the same solution it seems
[09:51] <Unit193> ochosi: Someone moved a bug I was following from the correct location, to a defunct project that wasn't right, very annoying.
[09:52] <ochosi> yeah, there should be some restrictions at least
[09:52] <ochosi> as in: you have to add a comment if you unlink a bug
[09:54] <smartboyhw> Anyway I marked it again...
[09:55] <smartboyhw> It IS clearly a duplicate as I said yesterday
[09:55] <ochosi> well it doesn't make much sense to go back and forth between marking it as duplicate and unmarking it
[09:56] <ochosi> i'd just wait, the bug should be resolved soon anyway
[09:56]  * ochosi keeps fingers crossed
[09:56] <smartboyhw> Er alright.
[09:56]  * smartboyhw keeps fingers crossed too
[10:38] <knome> pleia2, we need to have lunch/dinner with stgraber at UDS
[10:49] <mips1911> i ran a update this morning and my network no longer works
[10:50] <mips1911> I can't use network manager either as everything is greyed out?
[10:50] <pnarciso> todays update also broke software center
[10:50] <mips1911> you got the same issue?
[10:51] <mips1911> only interface I have listed in ifconfig if lo
[10:51] <mips1911> anyway I can rollback?
[10:54] <pnarciso> I have cable internet, and I wasn't affected
[10:55] <pnarciso> software-center 5.3.11, can you see if it's also installed in your system, and see if it starts?
[10:57] <mips1911> ubuntu software center starts here
[10:58] <pnarciso> is it version 5.3.11
[11:00] <mips1911> no, 5.3.10
[11:01] <pnarciso> it's 5.3.11 that's crashing
[11:01] <pnarciso> previous version worked
[11:02] <pnarciso> but that update will land sooner or later
[11:06] <mips1911> Thing is I can't do anything without network access. So I need to get this fixed somehow
[11:06] <pnarciso> time for reinstall :)
[11:07] <mips1911> no can do
[11:07] <mips1911> I can't see my ethernet interface anymore
[11:08] <mips1911> there must be a way to get it back
[11:12] <pnarciso> do you have network-manager-gnome installed
[11:15] <pnarciso> also, run nm-applet in the terminal and see what it do
[11:37] <mips1911> guys I really need some help with this network issue, can no longer see my eth interface
[11:40] <ochosi> mips1911: i guess #xubuntu would be the right channel for support
[11:40] <mips1911> for 12.10?
[12:06] <ochosi> mips1911: no, for that you could go to #ubuntu+1
[12:15] <mips1911> ochosi: figured it out, somehow my eth interface got renamed to "p17p1" ???
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[17:29] <drc> 7 sept daily (64) on a USB stick boots through the new xubuntu splash screen does display (makes me thing of kubuntu with the rings towards the bottom) a "pixelated" black and white diagonal (to left to bottom right) screen and stops.  A <quick> look at the MLs and the ubuntu beta (which has similiar problems for me) release notes show nothing.
[17:30] <drc> I'm assuming it's a problem with the video drivers?  BTW I have a 256MB nVidia GeForce 8400M GS
[17:32] <drc> Is this one of reason that xubuntu decided not to release as a beta?
[17:33] <drc> opps..sorry, just realized this is -devel :(  I'll gladly move this to the main channel.
[17:36] <mips1911> how hard is it to remaster the netinstall image to include extra packages from a current install?
[18:27] <SkippersBoss> evening
[20:05] <noskcaj> if anyone can help improve this tesstcase for the iso tracker can they please edit/fix it
[20:08] <noskcaj> after any changes send a changelog to doak.jackson@gmail.com
[20:08] <pleia2> noskcaj: the /Short and /Long tests?
[20:09] <pleia2> I'm actually not sure where we are with moving them
[20:09] <noskcaj> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gZwZLrdmzNiFzR6ho6oSEEdhwmZ5lsc-YCGz0patXYw/edit
[20:09] <pleia2> is that a version of the /Short or /Long?
[20:09] <noskcaj> that is the draft for changes to the iso trackers version of the testcase
[20:10] <pleia2> right, I am trying to figure out which testcase :)
[20:10] <noskcaj> i'm merging parts of the /short and /long testcases of the wiki
[20:10] <pleia2> gotcha
[20:41] <noskcaj> can someone run the xubuntu daily and64 because it seems to have a login loop but it might just be my VM
[20:42] <pleia2> I am not having that problem
[20:42] <pleia2> did both VM and hardware installs, 64 and 32-bit
[20:44] <noskcaj> was your VM qemu
[20:45] <pleia2> no, virtualbox
[20:48] <noskcaj> then qemu is to blame
[20:49] <pleia2> wow, my menu on my hardware system is some kind of asian language
[20:49] <pleia2> it wasn't online when I did the install
[20:56] <pleia2> ah, I see what I did
[20:57] <pleia2> PEBKAC
[20:58] <noskcaj> pleia2: did you choose manual login?
[20:58] <pleia2> it was manual login, I didn't log in with default english ;)
[20:58] <pleia2> did you do auto login?
[21:01] <noskcaj> manual, in english
[21:02] <noskcaj> i'm seeing if virtual box makes it work for me
[21:41] <noskcaj> the auto-login in virtualbox works fine, does that meen its a bug in qemu?
[21:47] <Sysi> could be
[21:47] <Sysi> noskcaj: try removing ~/.ICEauthority
[21:48] <noskcaj> i dont have that folder
[21:52] <Sysi> I think it's single file, can still be missing though
[21:59] <noskcaj> yes it was, i have now deleted it