[00:00] D: [00:00] im getting this error: W: Fallo al obtener http://ubuntuarchive.xfree.com.ar/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/geany/geany-common_0.21.dfsg-1ubuntu4_all.deb [00:00] 403 Forbidden [00:01] i've changed my sources to other server and im try to update now [00:05] oh well, that seems to have fixed it [00:08] For what it's worth, I get a 403 on that page, may want to contact that repo. [00:12] kay [00:12] thanks [00:12] :) [01:42] has anyone built newer Java, than openjdk-7-jre 7~u3-2.1.1~pre1-1ubuntu3? (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html) [01:42] Multiple vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) component in Oracle Java SE 7 Update 6 and earlier allow remote attackers to execute arbitrary code via a crafted applet that bypasses SecurityManager restrictions by (1) using com.sun.beans.finder.ClassFinder.findClass and leveraging an exception with the forName method to access restricted classes from arbitrary p... (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-4681) [01:44] is this a good solution, maybe? http://askubuntu.com/questions/163737/how-do-i-create-deb-package-for-oracle-jdk [01:48] nvm, ok found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html [02:12] Hi, so i have an issue and not sure how to fix it, basically, was asked to fix a freinds netbook, whatever reaosn os wouldnt boot, i got xubuntu 12.04 on a flash drive and installed via it. Now the xubuntu wont boot without the flash drive [02:15] can you wipe the xubuntu installation?.. just get 12.04.1 and reinstall ;) [02:15] xubuntu301: did you install grub on the flash drive? [02:15] ^ or that xD [02:15] dont think so, didnt know to, i used a program for putting it on there, hold on while i grab the name [02:15] http://askubuntu.com/questions/125494/cant-boot-without-flash-drive-plugged-in [02:16] ok vlad, ill try that, thanks [02:16] sudo grub-install /dev/sda 'That command will install GRUB to the MBR of the first hard drive, which should make it bootable.' [02:17] xubuntu301: further down in the thread, there's also the boot-repair [02:17] yeah trying to find out the drive sda name [02:18] may be easier?.. === nyR3dnek is now known as nyRednek [02:30] thanks very much v1adimir , first link fixed it, thanks :) [02:30] nice [02:31] i used to have ubuntu on this comp and did fine with it, but at the time, amd video cards + directx + ubuntu = no likey XD [02:31] 12.04 is the first version that 'worked' for me as well :s [02:32] 10.04, but havent tryed it since a diff driver for video card came out, nor the 12.04 [02:32] oic [02:32] again, thanks, have fun :) [02:32] :) [05:12] how to disable auto login [07:02] can someone please help me figure out how to mount 2 ntfs hdd that were in raid 1 on windows 7 D: [07:18] morgan: see if this helps - http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=189&t=90313&p=519759#p519520 [07:20] mmmm nope, i don't see a UUID for the drives [07:22] arg this is so confusing seriously about to go back to windows :( [07:24] morgan: did you try in a terminal sudo blkid ? [07:24] that'll help find the UUID [07:24] yes all I see is /dev/sdb: TYPE="isw_raid_member" and /dev/sdc: TYPE="isw_raid_member" for the 2 drives in question [07:25] oh there is also /dev/mapper/isw_defgabgbdi_Volume0p1: LABEL="Local Disk" UUID="20E419BFE41997DC" TYPE="ntfs" [07:25] but i have no idea what that is [07:28] /dev/mapper is from the raid setup so that'll be the UUID to use afaik [07:28] I don't use raid here or anywhere [07:32] hmmm ok here goes [07:32] luck [07:44] okkkkkkkkkkkkkkk [07:44] so [07:44] it worked, partially [07:44] i think [07:44] what part failed? [07:44] it only mounted a single partition [07:44] there is another partition missing i think somewhere lol [07:45] the raid device should have two partitions in it? [07:45] yes [07:46] UUID=20E419BFE41997DC /mount/downloads/ ntfs rw 0 0 [07:46] does that look right for the fstub? [07:48] yep [07:49] oh btw, the missing partition is a hidden truecrypt volume [07:49] but it still doesnt show up in trucrypt [07:54] I know nothing about truecrypt [07:58] mmm ok me neither apparently lol [08:02] see if the arch wiki can give a clue - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TrueCrypt#Mount_volumes_via_fstab [08:06] morgan: check the size of the raid mount to see if all of it is in fact there [08:08] yeah the 1 partition that I can see is all there [08:08] it was 300~ gb of the 2tb drives [08:08] the rest is the hidden drive that I can't seem to find [08:09] k === Xubuntu is now known as Guest14501 [08:14] I have problem with xfce. When i minimized browser it not minimized into panel. What item i should add to panel or what ? [08:14] I have problem with xfce. When i minimized browser it not minimized into panel. What item i should add to panel or what ? [08:15] No need to repeat, and do you have "Window Buttons"? [08:17] yes [08:18] Program not apear in panel when minimized [08:18] do you have a top toolbar still ? [08:18] yes [08:18] 'panel 1' [08:18] yes [08:19] right click and go to panel > panel pref [08:19] then under items you need to add 'window buttons' if its not there [08:20] oh, thats good, thank you very much ;) [08:35] 16 mb/s download [08:36] only reason i'm choosing linux over windows 7 lol [08:36] the networking and core OS files are just so much better than windows lol === Xubuntu is now known as Guest88820 [09:19] I copy mouse cursor theme to /usr/share/icons and choose to use it in mouse theme settings. I see that curson but when i turn it on windows buttons it bact to "default". [09:46] how can I move all files of directory foo/* into . recursively? [09:47] with -r [09:55] jola, mv foo/* . [09:56] jols, (move operations aren't ever 'non-recursive' as such; when you move a directory, everything in it is moved implicitly; on a single filesystem it's internally nothing like a copy operation.) [09:57] tails2, yes, I thought so, but it doesn't work with git mv foo/* . [09:58] tails2, fatal: source directory is empty, source=src/bin, destination=bin (foo would be src here) [10:00] jola, sorry, I'm unsure as to how git handles move operations, or what happens if you use standard mv within a git repo. [10:47] I love xubuntu! :D Switched from Ubuntu which I got rid off because stupid Unity Desktop. Had the feeling they removed more features than they added. So uncomfortable. [10:53] xubuntu is acting strange in the additional driver recommendation and installation :/ [10:56] i am running xubuntu on a nvidia 320m machine and an AMD apu machine haveing the raedon 6310 integrated on the chip with a 1.6ghz processor [10:58] ^well screw that noise [10:58] since i think this is a gui-xfce problem with xubuntu :) [11:28] xubuntu doesnt recognize the canon EOS 550D camera via USB (to browse images on that device) [11:28] windows on the same computer finds the camera, and ubuntu on a nother laptop finds the camera, too [11:29] how can I make xubuntu notice the plugged-in camera? [11:30] ^ you are talking about how it's not mounting it as a storage medium ? [11:31] yepp [11:32] go to settings manager in the application menu on the top left of your screen [11:33] click on removable derives and media [11:33] see the camera tab ? [11:34] I am not at home atm, but I know what you mean :p [11:34] please go on [11:36] download "shotwell " it's a software package using "sudo apt-get install shotwell" now check import photos when connected and type shotwell in the command box under the check box [11:36] ^import photos when connected is a check box [11:37] allright, thx. will try that :) [11:38] ^shotwell is not necesarry but it is one hell of a photo managment app , even better than apple's iphoto :p [11:42] xubuntu is screwing up with additional driver stuff recently :( [11:42] see now i have to reboot for installing shotwell :p [11:42] this is ridiculous :d [11:44] huh how come whenever i use "apt " i have to reboot but when i use synaptic , nothing happens , something is broken in xubuntu these days :( [11:45] anyone from the dev team here ? [11:45] ^well nobody is on #xubuntu-dev [11:47] mips1911, did you notice something strange with 12.04.1 ? :p [11:48] like? since an update/upgrade this morning my netwok no longer works [11:50] mips1911, the biggest issue i am facing is the incompatibility of additional drivers applet and the real packages being installed from it :p [11:53] ^on my AMD/ati laptop i installed the proprietary drivers(post release) last night , i left it to download the drivers and install them using the additional drivers applet and when i came back after about a few hours the installation was not succesful according to the applet it had an error message [11:54] error-"failed to install , check log." something along the lines [11:55] where can i find a shortcut to choose/configure screensaver settings? [11:56] xscreensaver loads on startup, but i cant find the config app [11:56] but when i noticed the catalyst control center in my application menu i got confused and searched for "fglrx" with synaptic , and to my utter suprise the damn driver was installed perfectly with the catalyst control center [11:56] MrBushido, 2 things [11:56] 1. try settings manager [11:57] ahar, it's under the settings manager [11:57] MrBushido, does it have a screensaver icon ? [11:57] i keep forgetting thats a link, not some kind of title lol [11:57] yah [11:57] thanks <3 [11:58] MrBushido, huh so you have chosen our code of conduct as a nick ? :p [11:58] ^2 [11:58] hehe [11:59] MrBushido, i didn't expect a samurai to laugh that proves it you are not one :p [11:59] i'm not [11:59] i just have bad parents [12:00] cruel even [12:00] who would name their child bushido!? [12:00] MrBushido, huh how old are you ? [12:01] 10780 days old [12:01] MrBushido, trolling me ? [12:01] yes [12:01] very [12:02] MrBushido, you messed with the wrong man then :d [12:02] lol [12:02] :'< [12:03] MrBushido, you do sound like a bot :d [12:03] I AM A ROBOT, HOW MAY I SERVE YOU!? BZZZZWHRRRRR [12:04] MrBushido, let's take it on offtopic ? [12:04] i would, but i have things to do <3 [12:04] thanks again for the help [12:05] MrBushido, ok my pleasure [12:07] * apm1 believes if no other nvidia and ati card owners are responding then it is only him who is having problems :p [12:22] hi. Is it possible to install (k/l/x)ubuntu on a zelig pad 700 ? [12:24] dont think yet [12:24] android would be recommended [12:25] but you can try :) [12:25] baizon: I know that android is recommended, but before buying it I want some feedback [12:25] you would have to download ARM version of ubuntu though [12:27] Tout le monde s'en cogne mais je suis en train d'installer XU sur une clef USB ! [12:28] en fait, tout le monde zone ici sans rien foutre ! [12:28] -> définition du zonage en meme temps... [12:29] !fr [12:29] Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [12:29] !de [12:29] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [12:29] excellent ! [12:30] mercy [12:30] I said that i'm installing X-Ubuntu on an USB key, and that everybody is sleeping on his keyboard ! [12:31] hello, I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 32bits. I have no idea why "tput bel" does not sound... I already installed pcspkr kernel so that I could make sounds with speaker ("beep" command is working) [12:31] what should I do? [12:31] mips1911_, mercy for merci' , witty :D [12:31] no I D ! Sorry ! [12:31] I'm using centerim for chat, but I'm not hearing any notification sound. Since centerim uses "tput bel" to do that, I'm almost sure that would solve the problem [12:32] the fact is calling "tput bel" does no sound [12:32] if I call "tput flash" it does what it should do however [12:32] is this a terminal configuration? [12:33] apm1 at least somebody got it lol [12:34] mips1911_, what rendering speed do you get on your gpu ? [12:35] apm1, how would i test to compare? [12:36] on amd/ati there is a utility called glxgear i don't know about nvidia [12:37] thats a xorg mesa utility and can be used with all gpus [12:38] glxgears gives me the same framerate as my monitor, is there another switch/test to run with it [12:42] apm1 if I disbale sync to vblank on my gpu I get about 15800 FPS [12:43] no ideas? :-/ [12:48] mips1911_, how do you disable sync to vblanc ? [12:48] *vblank [12:48] apm1, first how many FPS do you get? [12:49] 459 max :( on fglrx [12:50] apm1, then you don;t have vblank on. if vblank was on you would get 60fps as it's synced to the refresh rate of your monitor and that is usually less than 120 [12:50] apml, what gpu is that? [12:50] mips1911_, raedon 6310 on an AMD apu e350 [12:51] which drivers are you using? [12:51] fglrx post release === mips1911_ is now known as mips1911 [12:52] fglrx post release drivers [12:54] 15800 fps , what do you do with that CAD ? :D [12:55] apml, I have no idea then sorry. Have you tried the opensource driver? See someone over here got 714fps. Maybe ask in the ati forums? [12:56] apm1, my gpu is actually old and slow, battles with new games. glxgears is also not a proper benchmarking tool. Try the phoronix suite for benchmarking [12:58] mips1911, but your gpu is an nvidia right and is a discrete processor [12:58] apm1, yes [12:58] brb [12:59] but mine is an on cpu die gpu and is amd [13:00] gotta go ttyl :D [13:05] My son has loaded Xubuntu onto my EEE netbook, successfully.Trying to establish an Internet connection I clicked on the words (something like)"wireless internet" whihc is on a drop down box on the panel across the top of the screen. The word s just disappeared and seem to have disabled any wireless connection. How do I get it back? [13:07] click on it again and see what options you get [13:08] It has disappeared - the only options that now appear are "VPN" and "enable networks" [13:09] xubuntu951, by "disappeared" you mean grayed out? [13:10] yes - it is just possible to see some (very) greyed out words - but they are not 'live' [13:10] xubuntu951, I used to experience that. I think the updates solved it [13:10] but the updates need an internet connection - catch22 [13:11] xubuntu951, thats a pretty anoying bug that happens a lot, you have to log off and log back in [13:11] xubuntu951, restart computer [13:11] if reloggin doesnt work do what gmagno says and reboot, theres pretty much no other easy option [13:11] what happens if you try and edit connections? [13:11] yes, I rebooted, still no "internet option on this drop down@ it works wired but can't get my wireless address [13:12] xubuntu951, can you directly connect your computer to router by cable? [13:12] yes [13:12] I think you should do that [13:12] ok, then what? [13:13] connect the to net by cable, do the updates [13:13] beer time, bbl ;) [13:13] "Start"->System->UpdateManager [13:13] thanks very much everybody, I have to go to work now, I'll try via the cable connection, install updates and see what. Cheers bye [13:14] o/ [13:14] xubuntu951, thats a pretty anoying bug that happens a lot, you have to log off and log back in? [13:14] no [13:14] xubuntu951, does you netbook has a fn key that enables wireless by hardware [13:14] that was the question [13:15] yes, I have wired connection, will try to load updates that way and see if problem is solved, thanks a lot [16:01] hello [16:03] when I use the image viewer on xubuntu and that I want to zoom, I need to press CTRL, what can I do ? [16:06] hmm, that is odd, wont zoom past 100% using keyboard [16:07] Actually I would like to zoom just using the mouse, without the need to push CTRL [16:07] do desktop launchers work in xubuntu? [16:07] xubuntu438: seems the shortcut key dont work as expected, you could use the + icon on the toolbar on the left [16:09] mewt: they work for me? why do you ask? [16:09] im getting [Desktop: command not found [16:10] generally I use the scroll button to zoom in & out in other image viewers but with ristretto, scrolling switch the picture instead, which is quite unusual === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:11] might it have been something i uninstalled when i got rid of unity? [16:11] mewt: well, would think your command is wrong. is the command in the systems path? have you included the the full path of the command [16:12] xubuntu438: you can always install one of the other viewers and use that as default viewer instead [16:12] http://pastebin.com/VQtWN7qu full code for the launcher [16:12] yeah, sure, I'll do that, thanks [16:13] mewt: do you have a JVM installed ? [16:13] the script works, the launcher doesnt [16:14] i wouldnt run it this way normally but im making it pretty and easy for my brother's desktop [16:16] so the first line, [Desktop Entry], is causing some sort of problem [16:16] mewt: try running the .jar file instead of the .sh [16:16] which also works fine [16:17] just not from the launcher [16:17] i only made the script because i thought the launcher couldnt run the jar directly for some reason, but it's the same error either way [16:22] mewt: works fine for me running the jar ? [16:23] mewt: only diff is i dont have the path set [16:24] mewt: sort of makes sense as the JVM would be somewhere else [16:24] ? [16:25] mewt: never mind, I put the path in and it works [16:26] ~$ '/home/shako/Desktop/gedit.desktop' [16:26] /home/shako/Desktop/gedit.desktop: line 2: [Desktop: command not found [16:26] ^ no idea what this is then? [16:28] mewt: gedit? [16:29] just an example [16:30] mewt: I assume it just part of a path, same on my system so I don't think it's relevant [16:30] it's weird because it works from the toolbar launcher [16:30] mewt, you can't run .desktop files like scripts [16:30] but on the desktop it gives thiw error [16:31] oh really [16:31] i have to run them as bin commands or something? [16:31] mewt: sure it does, gedit.desktop is not executable [16:31] ah! [16:31] mewt: even if it exists [16:31] lets see here then [16:33] mewt: it's a file that contains info that the desktop uses, making it executable not going to help [16:33] right [16:33] thats what i was doing [16:33] but otherwise i get a permission denied [16:35] mewt: maybe try double click on the icon :) [16:36] nah :| [16:36] nothing happens [16:37] i guess i arrive at the root of the problem [16:37] i tried to get a launcher to work that wasnt working and broke it more [16:37] mewt: check the "run in terminal" checkbox in the launcher and try again [16:38] terminal pops up then disappears [16:41] mewt: suggest you delete the launcher and create a new one. [16:41] this is launcher #2000 [16:41] mewt: and you can start minecraft from the command line? [16:42] full path yeah [16:42] to the jar or script [16:43] heres the script code: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame [16:43] the jar is in the same directory so i didnt need to use a full path [16:45] whats java -version give [16:45] should be 6 [16:46] 1.6.0_24 [16:46] mewt: well, i'm wondering if you got openjava or oracle java [16:46] oracle [16:47] mewt: well, I got open, so there is a possibility [16:47] the exact same launcher? man [16:47] i wonder what im doing [16:48] mewt: are you open to installing openJVM [16:49] not really :( i dont see how it could be the root of it anyway, seeing as java seems to be running fine [16:49] mewt: when i use you command line java line it open but graphics are corrupt [16:50] oh graphics are fine here [16:51] mewt: have you tried using the command line in the launcher rather that just the file name? [16:53] i have [17:00] well, I pretty sure it's because you dont have openJVM installed, but you've left already [17:25] just setup a laptop with Xu 10.04, and I'm trying to hook up to a wireless network. Plugged in the Avaya (orinoco silver?) card, it lights up, and iwconfig shows it, but no internet access. I added the cards MAC address to the router's allow list, but still no connection? [17:27] n2diy: is you network encrypted ? [17:28] and why install 10.04? [17:28] recon_lap, not sure? hom could I check? [17:28] 12.04 sucks. [17:29] n2diy: well, you can check the setting on the router or on a different computer that can connect [17:30] recon_lap, this computer is wired to the router and I'm in the admin pages, the laptop is next to me. [17:30] n2diy: you'll have to check the router then [17:31] n2diy: look to see if wireless encryption is set up, be stuff like WPA WEP ect [17:32] n2diy: you ever connect using wireless before? [17:32] recon_lap, ok, I just stumbled on the routers bssid, which I wasn't able to find earlier, let me enter that in the network settings on the laptop and see what happens? [17:34] n2diy: why dont you use network manager? [17:35] recon_lap, wasn't aware of it, is it installed? [17:37] recon_lap, think I found it, entering the wpa password now. [17:37] how hard is it to remaster the netinstall image to include extra packages from a current install? [17:39] recon_lap, cennection is cooking, thanks. [17:39] n2diy: no problem , glad it was easy [17:40] 7 sept daily (64) on a USB stick boots through the new xubuntu splash screen does display (makes me thing of kubuntu with the rings towards the bottom) a "pixelated" black and white diagonal (to left to bottom right) screen and stops. A look at the MLs and the ubuntu beta (which has similiar problems for me) release notes show nothing. [17:40] I'm assuming it's a problem with the video drivers? BTW I have a 256MB nVidia GeForce 8400M GS. [17:41] try installing nvidia-current & nvidia-settings from the repos or the X-swat PPA [17:43] sorry, I wasn't clear...this is booting a Live USB. [17:45] drc: you could try boot to command line and install from there onto the usb. might be wrong about that [17:48] recon_lap: And what would that do that a normal boot would not? [17:49] drc: give you access to the property graphic drivers at boot I would assume. [17:50] drc: but I'm not sure as this is not a problem I've faced, was only a suggestion [17:50] well, it's worth a shot :) [17:50] bbs [17:56] hi does anyone know if there's a way to change the datetime panel plugin (datetime-7) via the xfconf-query tool? [18:01] cp /usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config/interfaces /etc/shorewall/ vi /etc/shorewall/interfaces gives me: ----> cp: target `/etc/shorewall/interfaces' is not a directory <----- correct, it is a file, what am I writting wrong? [18:01] What happens if you ls -l /etc/shorewall/ ? [18:05] a, root [18:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 334 Sep 7 00:18 interfaces [18:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Dec 13 2011 Makefile [18:06] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4336 Dec 26 2011 shorewall.conf [18:06] but even with sudo I get the same message [18:07] well my laptop is attempting to make the wireless connection, I can see the networks ssid, and I'm prompted for a password, but the WPA shared key isn't working? [18:13] n2diy: you sure you got the right password? [18:14] n2diy: and the right network ? [18:17] hello, anyone here? [18:18] recon_lap, yes, this box is connected to wireless router, showing me the shared key, and the router's ssid. The router is ten upstairs in the living room. [18:20] n2diy: that does not make sense, you mean you are in the routers config settings looking at the wpa config? [18:21] my battery meter isnt working properly... anyone have any ideas about what to do? [18:21] recon_lap, yes, this box is logged into the router's admin page, the laptop is sitting next to me. [18:22] n2diy: check that the wireless card your using can do wpa [18:23] recon_lap, ok. [18:24] recon_lap, the label on the card only lists WEP. [18:26] n2diy: must be old, you can change the encryption on the router to WEP, it's crap encryption. [18:30] recon_lap, roger that, I just disabled encryption in the router, and I'm restarting the laptop. === Buster is now known as Guest4991 === Guest4991 is now known as BigBuster [18:47] recon_lap, the router is wide open, and I still can't connect, going to try a different card. [18:58] recon_lap, neither card works, maybe I have a signal level problem? [20:42] Is there a way to access the network monitor applet from another Window Manager, for example OpenBox? I realize it's a bit contradictory to the X part of Xubuntu, but 'tis a question I have regardless === Hazey is now known as Konigsberg7 [21:17] Dresk: look at Lubuntu (which uses openbox). I believe it uses the same network monitor applet in its panel. [21:17] Lubuntu uses LXDE on top of openbox, and it uses nm-applet. [21:18] So that nm-applet has been re-written for Lubuntu? [21:21] I'm not sure it needs to be rewritten. I think it's just the same package installed in Xubuntu and Lubuntu. Then the icon shows up in the system tray. [21:22] What panel are you using? [22:02] Hey guys, server admin here new to linux on the desktop. Moved over a year ago to Ubuntu and love it. Want to try a different desktop manager but am wondering what the support for each is like? Is xfce well supported, developed, and will it last? Thanks. [22:03] Xfce is actively developed (latest major release was in May), the rest of your questions are somewhat subjective and you probably want to give it a try for yourself [22:04] you can ask questions on irc, mailing lists, forums... [22:06] Well, basically...I'm liking xfce, but don't want to move to it on all my computers/laptops if it's going to die soon or if there is any uncertainty. Looks like xfce is here to stay though from what I'm seeing. [22:07] no, the project is very active [22:07] you should be fine :) [22:07] Cool. Thanks. [22:09] conservative xfce has gained interest after ubuntu going for unity and gnome doing radical UI change [22:09] Should we bother to say Linus uses it? :P [22:11] lol [22:11] Yeah, I don't like Unity. [22:12] However I really want to use Ubuntu because of it's backing from Canonical. [22:12] Which brought me to Xubuntu, ;). === nothingspecial is now known as Bradd_Figg === Bradd_Figg is now known as Brad_Figg === Brad_Figg is now known as nothingspecial [23:50] aloha! [23:50] anybody awake? =) [23:56] !ask [23:56] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [23:56] :)