[00:00] <GridCube> D:
[00:00] <GridCube> im getting this error: W: Fallo al obtener http://ubuntuarchive.xfree.com.ar/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/geany/geany-common_0.21.dfsg-1ubuntu4_all.deb
[00:00] <GridCube>   403  Forbidden
[00:01] <GridCube> i've changed my sources to other server and im try to update now
[00:05] <GridCube> oh well, that seems to have fixed it
[00:08] <Unit193> For what it's worth, I get a 403 on that page, may want to contact that repo.
[00:12] <GridCube> kay
[00:12] <GridCube> thanks
[00:12] <GridCube> :)
[01:42] <v1adimir> has anyone built newer Java, than openjdk-7-jre 7~u3-2.1.1~pre1-1ubuntu3? (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/alert-cve-2012-4681-1835715.html)
[01:44] <v1adimir> is this a good solution, maybe? http://askubuntu.com/questions/163737/how-do-i-create-deb-package-for-oracle-jdk
[01:48] <v1adimir> nvm, ok found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[02:12] <xubuntu301> Hi, so i have an issue and not sure how to fix it, basically, was asked to fix a freinds netbook, whatever reaosn os wouldnt boot, i got xubuntu 12.04 on a flash drive and installed via it. Now the xubuntu wont boot without the flash drive
[02:15] <v1adimir> can you wipe the xubuntu installation?.. just get 12.04.1 and reinstall ;)
[02:15] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu301: did you install grub on the flash drive?
[02:15] <v1adimir> ^ or that xD
[02:15] <xubuntu301> dont think so, didnt know to, i used a program for putting it on there, hold on while i grab the name
[02:15] <v1adimir> http://askubuntu.com/questions/125494/cant-boot-without-flash-drive-plugged-in
[02:16] <xubuntu301> ok vlad, ill try that, thanks
[02:16] <v1adimir> sudo grub-install /dev/sda 'That command will install GRUB to the MBR of the first hard drive, which should make it bootable.'
[02:17] <v1adimir> xubuntu301: further down in the thread, there's also the boot-repair
[02:17] <xubuntu301> yeah trying to find out the drive sda name
[02:18] <v1adimir> may be easier?..
[02:30] <xubuntu301> thanks very much v1adimir , first link fixed it, thanks :)
[02:30] <v1adimir> nice
[02:31] <xubuntu301> i used to have ubuntu on this comp and did fine with it, but at the time, amd video cards + directx + ubuntu = no likey XD
[02:31] <v1adimir> 12.04 is the first version that 'worked' for me as well :s
[02:32] <xubuntu301> 10.04, but havent tryed it since a diff driver for video card came out, nor the 12.04
[02:32] <v1adimir> oic
[02:32] <xubuntu301> again, thanks, have fun :)
[02:32] <v1adimir> :)
[05:12] <xubuntu316> how to disable auto login
[07:02] <morgan> can someone please help me figure out how to mount 2 ntfs hdd that were in raid 1 on windows 7 D:
[07:18] <well_laid_lawn> morgan: see if this helps - http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=189&t=90313&p=519759#p519520
[07:20] <morgan> mmmm nope, i don't see a UUID for the drives
[07:22] <morgan> arg this is so confusing seriously about to go back to windows :(
[07:24] <well_laid_lawn> morgan: did you try in a terminal   sudo blkid   ?
[07:24] <well_laid_lawn> that'll help find the UUID
[07:24] <morgan> yes all I see is /dev/sdb: TYPE="isw_raid_member" and /dev/sdc: TYPE="isw_raid_member" for the 2 drives in question
[07:25] <morgan> oh there is also /dev/mapper/isw_defgabgbdi_Volume0p1: LABEL="Local Disk" UUID="20E419BFE41997DC" TYPE="ntfs"
[07:25] <morgan> but i have no idea what that is
[07:28] <well_laid_lawn>  /dev/mapper is from the raid setup so that'll be the UUID to use afaik
[07:28] <well_laid_lawn> I don't use raid here or anywhere
[07:32] <morgan> hmmm ok here goes
[07:32] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[07:44] <morgan> okkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[07:44] <morgan> so
[07:44] <morgan> it worked, partially
[07:44] <morgan> i think
[07:44] <well_laid_lawn> what part failed?
[07:44] <morgan> it only mounted a single partition
[07:44] <morgan> there is another partition missing i think somewhere lol
[07:45] <well_laid_lawn> the raid device should have two partitions in it?
[07:45] <morgan> yes
[07:46] <morgan> UUID=20E419BFE41997DC /mount/downloads/ ntfs rw 0 0
[07:46] <morgan> does that look right for the fstub?
[07:48] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[07:49] <morgan> oh btw, the missing partition is a hidden truecrypt volume
[07:49] <morgan> but it still doesnt show up in trucrypt
[07:54] <well_laid_lawn> I know nothing about truecrypt
[07:58] <morgan> mmm ok me neither apparently lol
[08:02] <well_laid_lawn> see if the arch wiki can give a clue - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TrueCrypt#Mount_volumes_via_fstab
[08:06] <well_laid_lawn> morgan:  check the size of the raid mount to see if all of it is in fact there
[08:08] <morgan> yeah the 1 partition that I can see is all there
[08:08] <morgan> it was 300~ gb of the 2tb drives
[08:08] <morgan> the rest is the hidden drive that I can't seem to find
[08:09] <well_laid_lawn> k
[08:14] <Guest14501> I have problem with xfce. When i minimized browser it not minimized into panel. What item i should add to panel or what ?
[08:14] <Guest14501> I have problem with xfce. When i minimized browser it not minimized into panel. What item i should add to panel or what ?
[08:15] <Unit193> No need to repeat, and do you have "Window Buttons"?
[08:17] <Guest14501> yes
[08:18] <Guest14501> Program not apear in panel when minimized
[08:18] <morgan> do you have a top toolbar still ?
[08:18] <Guest14501> yes
[08:18] <morgan> 'panel 1'
[08:18] <Guest14501> yes
[08:19] <morgan> right click and go to panel > panel pref
[08:19] <morgan> then under items you need to add 'window buttons' if its not there
[08:20] <Guest14501> oh, thats good, thank you very much ;)
[08:35] <morgan> 16 mb/s download
[08:36] <morgan> only reason i'm choosing linux over windows 7 lol
[08:36] <morgan> the networking and core OS files are just so much better than windows lol
[09:19] <Guest88820> I copy mouse cursor theme to /usr/share/icons and choose to use it in mouse theme settings. I see that curson but when i turn it on windows buttons it bact to "default".
[09:46] <jola> how can I move all files of directory foo/* into . recursively?
[09:47] <Marzata> with -r
[09:55] <tails2> jola, mv foo/* .
[09:56] <tails2> jols, (move operations aren't ever 'non-recursive' as such; when you move a directory, everything in it is moved implicitly; on a single filesystem it's internally nothing like a copy operation.)
[09:57] <jola> tails2, yes, I thought so, but it doesn't work with git mv foo/* .
[09:58] <jola> tails2, fatal: source directory is empty, source=src/bin, destination=bin  (foo would be src here)
[10:00] <tails2> jola, sorry, I'm unsure as to how git handles move operations, or what happens if you use standard mv within a git repo.
[10:47] <CrisBee> I love xubuntu! :D Switched from Ubuntu which I got rid off because stupid Unity Desktop. Had the feeling they removed more features than they added. So uncomfortable.
[10:53] <apm1> xubuntu is acting strange in the additional driver recommendation and installation :/
[10:56] <apm1> i am running xubuntu on a nvidia 320m machine and an AMD apu machine haveing the raedon 6310 integrated on the chip with a 1.6ghz processor
[10:58] <apm1> ^well screw that noise
[10:58] <apm1> since i think this is a gui-xfce problem with xubuntu :)
[11:28] <PopeJob> xubuntu doesnt recognize the canon EOS 550D camera via USB (to browse images on that device)
[11:28] <PopeJob> windows on the same computer finds the camera, and ubuntu on a nother laptop finds the camera, too
[11:29] <PopeJob> how can I make xubuntu notice the plugged-in camera?
[11:30] <apm1> ^ you are talking about how it's not mounting it as a storage medium ?
[11:31] <PopeJob> yepp
[11:32] <apm1> go to settings manager in the application menu on the top left of your screen
[11:33] <apm1> click on removable derives and media
[11:33] <apm1> see the camera tab ?
[11:34] <PopeJob> I am not at home atm, but I know what you mean :p
[11:34] <PopeJob> please go on
[11:36] <apm1> download "shotwell " it's a software package using "sudo apt-get install shotwell" now check import photos when connected and type shotwell in the command box under the check box
[11:36] <apm1> ^import photos when connected is a check box
[11:37] <PopeJob> allright, thx. will try that :)
[11:38] <apm1> ^shotwell is not necesarry but it is one hell of a photo managment app , even better than apple's iphoto :p
[11:42] <apm1> xubuntu is screwing up with additional driver stuff recently :(
[11:42] <apm1> see now i have to reboot for installing shotwell :p
[11:42] <apm1> this is ridiculous :d
[11:44] <apm1> huh how come whenever i use "apt " i have to reboot but when i use synaptic , nothing happens , something is broken in xubuntu these days :(
[11:45] <apm1> anyone from the dev team here ?
[11:45] <apm1> ^well nobody is on #xubuntu-dev
[11:47] <apm1> mips1911, did you notice something strange with 12.04.1 ? :p
[11:48] <mips1911> like? since an update/upgrade this morning my netwok no longer works
[11:50] <apm1> mips1911, the biggest issue i am facing is the incompatibility of additional drivers applet and the real packages being installed from it :p
[11:53] <apm1> ^on my AMD/ati laptop i installed the proprietary drivers(post release) last night , i left it to download the drivers and install them using the additional drivers applet and when i came back after about a few hours the installation was not succesful according to the applet it had an error message
[11:54] <apm1> error-"failed to install , check log." something along the lines
[11:55] <MrBushido> where can i find a shortcut to choose/configure screensaver settings?
[11:56] <MrBushido> xscreensaver loads on startup, but i cant find the config app
[11:56] <apm1> but when i noticed the catalyst control center in my application menu i got confused and searched for "fglrx" with synaptic , and to my utter suprise the damn driver was installed perfectly with the catalyst control center
[11:56] <apm1> MrBushido, 2 things
[11:56] <apm1> 1. try settings manager
[11:57] <MrBushido> ahar, it's under the settings manager
[11:57] <apm1> MrBushido, does it have a screensaver icon ?
[11:57] <MrBushido> i keep forgetting thats a link, not some kind of title lol
[11:57] <MrBushido> yah
[11:57] <MrBushido> thanks <3
[11:58] <apm1> MrBushido, huh so you have chosen our code of conduct as a nick ? :p
[11:58] <apm1> ^2
[11:58] <MrBushido> hehe
[11:59] <apm1> MrBushido, i didn't expect a samurai to laugh that proves it you are not one :p
[11:59] <MrBushido> i'm not
[11:59] <MrBushido> i just have bad parents
[12:00] <MrBushido> cruel even
[12:00] <MrBushido> who would name their child bushido!?
[12:00] <apm1> MrBushido, huh how old are you ?
[12:01] <MrBushido> 10780 days old
[12:01] <apm1> MrBushido, trolling me ?
[12:01] <MrBushido> yes
[12:01] <MrBushido> very
[12:02] <apm1> MrBushido, you messed with the wrong man then :d
[12:02] <apm1> lol
[12:02] <MrBushido> :'<
[12:03] <apm1> MrBushido, you do sound like a bot :d
[12:03] <MrBushido> I AM A ROBOT, HOW MAY I SERVE YOU!? BZZZZWHRRRRR
[12:04] <apm1> MrBushido, let's take it on offtopic ?
[12:04] <MrBushido> i would, but i have things to do <3
[12:04] <MrBushido> thanks again for the help
[12:05] <apm1> MrBushido, ok my pleasure
[12:07]  * apm1 believes if no other nvidia and ati card owners are responding then it is only him who is having problems :p
[12:22] <faLUCE>  hi. Is it possible to install (k/l/x)ubuntu on a zelig pad 700 ?
[12:24] <baizon> dont think yet
[12:24] <baizon> android would be recommended
[12:25] <baizon> but you can try :)
[12:25] <faLUCE> baizon: I know that android is recommended, but before buying it I want some feedback
[12:25] <mips1911_> you would have to download ARM version of ubuntu though
[12:27] <Rouennais> Tout le monde s'en cogne mais je suis en train d'installer XU sur une clef USB !
[12:28] <Rouennais> en fait, tout le monde zone ici sans rien foutre !
[12:28] <Rouennais> -> définition du zonage en meme temps...
[12:29] <Pici> !fr
[12:29] <Rouennais> !de
[12:29] <Rouennais> excellent !
[12:30] <mips1911_> mercy
[12:30] <Rouennais> I said that i'm installing X-Ubuntu on an USB key, and that everybody is sleeping on his keyboard !
[12:31] <gmagno> hello, I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 32bits. I have no idea why "tput bel" does not sound... I already installed pcspkr kernel so that I could make sounds with speaker ("beep" command is working)
[12:31] <gmagno> what should I do?
[12:31] <apm1> mips1911_, mercy for merci' , witty :D
[12:31] <Rouennais> no I D ! Sorry !
[12:31] <gmagno> I'm using centerim for chat, but I'm not hearing any notification sound. Since centerim uses "tput bel" to do that, I'm almost sure that would solve the problem
[12:32] <gmagno> the fact is calling "tput bel" does no sound
[12:32] <gmagno> if I call "tput flash" it does what it should do however
[12:32] <gmagno> is this a terminal configuration?
[12:33] <mips1911_> apm1 at least somebody got it lol
[12:34] <apm1> mips1911_, what rendering speed do you get on your gpu ?
[12:35] <mips1911_> apm1, how would i test to compare?
[12:36] <apm1> on amd/ati there is a utility called glxgear i don't know about nvidia
[12:37] <mips1911_> thats a xorg mesa utility and can be used with all gpus
[12:38] <mips1911_> glxgears gives me the same framerate as my monitor, is there another switch/test to run with it
[12:42] <mips1911_> apm1 if I disbale sync to vblank on my gpu I get about 15800 FPS
[12:43] <gmagno> no ideas? :-/
[12:48] <apm1> mips1911_, how do you disable sync to vblanc ?
[12:48] <apm1> *vblank
[12:48] <mips1911_> apm1, first how many FPS do you get?
[12:49] <apm1> 459 max :( on fglrx
[12:50] <mips1911_> apm1, then you don;t have vblank on. if vblank was on you would get 60fps as it's synced to the refresh rate of your monitor and that is usually less than 120
[12:50] <mips1911_> apml, what gpu is that?
[12:50] <apm1> mips1911_, raedon 6310 on an AMD apu e350
[12:51] <mips1911_> which drivers are you using?
[12:51] <apm1> fglrx post release
[12:52] <apm1> fglrx post release drivers
[12:54] <apm1> 15800 fps , what do you do with that CAD ? :D
[12:55] <mips1911> apml, I have no idea then sorry. Have you tried the opensource driver?  See someone over here got 714fps. Maybe ask in the ati forums?
[12:56] <mips1911> apm1, my gpu is actually old and slow, battles with new games. glxgears is also not a proper benchmarking tool. Try the phoronix suite for benchmarking
[12:58] <apm1> mips1911, but your gpu is an nvidia right and is a discrete processor
[12:58] <mips1911> apm1, yes
[12:58] <mips1911> brb
[12:59] <apm1> but mine is an on cpu die gpu and is amd
[13:00] <apm1> gotta go ttyl :D
[13:05] <xubuntu951> My son has loaded Xubuntu onto my EEE netbook, successfully.Trying to establish an Internet connection I clicked on the words  (something like)"wireless internet" whihc is on a drop down box on the panel across the top of the screen. The word s just disappeared and seem to have disabled any wireless connection. How do I get it back?
[13:07] <mips1911> click on it again and see what options you get
[13:08] <xubuntu951> It has disappeared - the only options that now appear are "VPN" and "enable networks"
[13:09] <gmagno> xubuntu951, by "disappeared" you mean grayed out?
[13:10] <xubuntu951> yes - it is just possible to see some (very) greyed out words - but they are not 'live'
[13:10] <gmagno> xubuntu951, I used to experience that. I think the updates solved it
[13:10] <xubuntu951> but the updates need an internet connection - catch22
[13:11] <GridCube> xubuntu951, thats a pretty anoying bug that happens a lot, you have to log off and log back in
[13:11] <gmagno> xubuntu951, restart computer
[13:11] <GridCube> if reloggin doesnt work do what gmagno says and reboot, theres pretty much no other easy option
[13:11] <mips1911> what happens if you try and edit connections?
[13:11] <xubuntu951> yes, I rebooted, still no "internet option on this drop down@ it works wired but can't get my wireless address
[13:12] <gmagno> xubuntu951, can you directly connect your computer to router by cable?
[13:12] <xubuntu951> yes
[13:12] <gmagno> I think you should do that
[13:12] <xubuntu951> ok, then what?
[13:13] <gmagno> connect the to net by cable, do the updates
[13:13] <mips1911> beer time, bbl ;)
[13:13] <gmagno> "Start"->System->UpdateManager
[13:13] <xubuntu951> thanks very much everybody, I have to go to work now, I'll try via the cable connection, install updates and see what. Cheers bye
[13:14] <gmagno> o/
[13:14] <GridCube> xubuntu951, thats a pretty anoying bug that happens a lot, you have to log off and log back in?
[13:14] <GridCube>  no
[13:14] <GridCube> xubuntu951, does you netbook has a fn key that enables wireless by hardware
[13:14] <GridCube> that was the question
[13:15] <xubuntu951> yes, I have wired connection, will try to load updates that way and see if problem is solved, thanks a lot
[16:01] <xubuntu438> hello
[16:03] <xubuntu438> when I use the image viewer on xubuntu and that I want to zoom, I need to press CTRL, what can I do ?
[16:06] <recon_lap> hmm, that is odd, wont zoom past 100% using keyboard
[16:07] <xubuntu438> Actually I would like to zoom just using the mouse, without the need to push CTRL
[16:07] <mewt> do desktop launchers work in xubuntu?
[16:07] <recon_lap> xubuntu438:  seems the shortcut key dont work as expected, you could use the + icon on the toolbar on the left
[16:09] <recon_lap> mewt: they work for me? why do you ask?
[16:09] <mewt> im getting [Desktop: command not found
[16:10] <xubuntu438> generally I use the scroll button to zoom in & out in other image viewers but with ristretto, scrolling switch the picture instead, which is quite unusual
[16:11] <mewt> might it have been something i uninstalled when i got rid of unity?
[16:11] <recon_lap> mewt: well, would think your command is wrong. is the command in the systems path? have you included the the full path of the command
[16:12] <recon_lap> xubuntu438: you can always install one of the other viewers and use that as default viewer instead
[16:12] <mewt> http://pastebin.com/VQtWN7qu full code for the launcher
[16:12] <xubuntu438> yeah, sure, I'll do that, thanks
[16:13] <recon_lap> mewt: do you have a JVM installed ?
[16:13] <mewt> the script works, the launcher doesnt
[16:14] <mewt> i wouldnt run it this way normally but im making it pretty and easy for my brother's desktop
[16:16] <mewt> so the first line, [Desktop Entry], is causing some sort of problem
[16:16] <recon_lap> mewt: try running the .jar  file instead of the .sh
[16:16] <mewt> which also works fine
[16:17] <mewt> just not from the launcher
[16:17] <mewt> i only made the script because i thought the launcher couldnt run the jar directly for some reason, but it's the same error either way
[16:22] <recon_lap> mewt: works fine for me running the jar ?
[16:23] <recon_lap> mewt: only diff is i dont have the path set
[16:24] <recon_lap> mewt: sort of makes sense as the JVM would be somewhere else
[16:24] <mewt> ?
[16:25] <recon_lap> mewt: never mind, I put the path in and it works
[16:26] <mewt> ~$ '/home/shako/Desktop/gedit.desktop'
[16:26] <mewt> /home/shako/Desktop/gedit.desktop: line 2: [Desktop: command not found
[16:26] <mewt> ^ no idea what this is then?
[16:28] <recon_lap> mewt: gedit?
[16:29] <mewt> just an example
[16:30] <recon_lap> mewt: I assume it just part of a path, same on my system so I don't think it's relevant
[16:30] <mewt> it's weird because it works from the toolbar launcher
[16:30] <knome> mewt, you can't run .desktop files like scripts
[16:30] <mewt> but on the desktop it gives thiw error
[16:31] <mewt> oh really
[16:31] <mewt> i have to run them as bin commands or something?
[16:31] <recon_lap> mewt: sure it does, gedit.desktop is not executable
[16:31] <mewt> ah!
[16:31] <recon_lap> mewt: even if it exists
[16:31] <mewt> lets see here then
[16:33] <recon_lap> mewt: it's a file that contains info that the desktop uses, making it executable not going to help
[16:33] <mewt> right
[16:33] <mewt> thats what i was doing
[16:33] <mewt> but otherwise i get a permission denied
[16:35] <recon_lap> mewt: maybe try double click on the icon :)
[16:36] <mewt> nah :|
[16:36] <mewt> nothing happens
[16:37] <mewt> i guess i arrive at the root of the problem
[16:37] <mewt> i tried to get a launcher to work that wasnt working and broke it more
[16:37] <recon_lap> mewt: check the "run in terminal" checkbox in the launcher and try again
[16:38] <mewt> terminal pops up then disappears
[16:41] <recon_lap> mewt: suggest you delete the launcher and create a new one.
[16:41] <mewt> this is launcher #2000
[16:41] <recon_lap> mewt: and you can start minecraft from the command line?
[16:42] <mewt> full path yeah
[16:42] <mewt> to the jar or script
[16:43] <mewt> heres the script code: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[16:43] <mewt> the jar is in the same directory so i didnt need to use a full path
[16:45] <recon_lap> whats java -version give
[16:45] <mewt> should be 6
[16:46] <mewt> 1.6.0_24
[16:46] <recon_lap> mewt: well, i'm wondering if you got openjava or oracle java
[16:46] <mewt> oracle
[16:47] <recon_lap> mewt: well, I got open, so there is a possibility
[16:47] <mewt> the exact same launcher? man
[16:47] <mewt> i wonder what im doing
[16:48] <recon_lap> mewt: are you open to installing openJVM
[16:49] <mewt> not really :( i dont see how it could be the root of it anyway, seeing as java seems to be running fine
[16:49] <recon_lap> mewt: when i use you command line java line it open but graphics are corrupt
[16:50] <mewt> oh graphics are fine here
[16:51] <recon_lap> mewt: have you tried using the command line in the launcher rather that just the file name?
[16:53] <mewt> i have
[17:00] <recon_lap> well, I pretty sure it's because you dont have openJVM installed, but you've left already
[17:25] <n2diy> just setup a laptop with Xu 10.04, and I'm trying to hook up to a wireless network. Plugged in the Avaya (orinoco silver?) card, it lights up, and iwconfig shows it, but no internet access. I added the cards MAC address to the router's allow list, but still no connection?
[17:27] <recon_lap> n2diy: is you network encrypted ?
[17:28] <recon_lap> and why install 10.04?
[17:28] <n2diy> recon_lap, not sure? hom could I check?
[17:28] <n2diy> 12.04 sucks.
[17:29] <recon_lap> n2diy: well, you can check the setting on the router or on a different computer that can connect
[17:30] <n2diy> recon_lap, this computer is wired to the router and I'm in the admin pages, the laptop is next to me.
[17:30] <recon_lap> n2diy: you'll have to check the router then
[17:31] <recon_lap> n2diy: look to see if wireless encryption is set up, be stuff like WPA WEP ect
[17:32] <recon_lap> n2diy: you ever connect using wireless before?
[17:32] <n2diy> recon_lap, ok, I just stumbled on the routers bssid, which I wasn't able to find earlier, let me enter that in the network settings on the laptop and see what happens?
[17:34] <recon_lap> n2diy: why dont you use network manager?
[17:35] <n2diy> recon_lap, wasn't aware of it, is it installed?
[17:37] <n2diy> recon_lap, think I found it, entering the wpa password now.
[17:37] <mips1911> how hard is it to remaster the netinstall image to include extra packages from a current install?
[17:39] <n2diy> recon_lap, cennection is cooking, thanks.
[17:39] <recon_lap> n2diy: no problem , glad it was easy
[17:40] <drc> 7 sept daily (64) on a USB stick boots through the new xubuntu splash screen does display (makes me thing of kubuntu with the rings towards the bottom) a "pixelated" black and white diagonal (to left to bottom right) screen and stops.  A <quick> look at the MLs and the ubuntu beta (which has similiar problems for me) release notes show nothing.
[17:40] <drc> I'm assuming it's a problem with the video drivers?  BTW I have a 256MB nVidia GeForce 8400M GS.
[17:41] <mips1911> try installing nvidia-current & nvidia-settings from the repos or the X-swat PPA
[17:43] <drc> sorry, I wasn't clear...this is booting a Live USB.
[17:45] <recon_lap> drc: you could try boot to command line and install from there onto the usb. might be wrong about that
[17:48] <drc> recon_lap: And what would that do that a normal boot would not?
[17:49] <recon_lap> drc: give you access to the property graphic drivers at boot I would assume.
[17:50] <recon_lap> drc: but I'm not sure as this is not a problem I've faced, was only a suggestion
[17:50] <drc> well, it's worth a shot :)
[17:50] <drc> bbs
[17:56] <hjbehling> hi does anyone know if there's a way to change the datetime panel plugin (datetime-7) via the xfconf-query  tool?
[18:01] <martinphone>  cp /usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config/interfaces /etc/shorewall/ vi /etc/shorewall/interfaces gives me: ----> cp: target `/etc/shorewall/interfaces' is not a directory <----- correct, it is a file, what am I writting wrong?
[18:01] <Unit193> What happens if you ls -l /etc/shorewall/  ?
[18:05] <martinphone> a, root
[18:06] <martinphone> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  334 Sep  7 00:18 interfaces
[18:06] <martinphone> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  512 Dec 13  2011 Makefile
[18:06] <martinphone> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4336 Dec 26  2011 shorewall.conf
[18:06] <martinphone> but even with sudo I get the same message
[18:07] <n2diy> well my laptop is attempting to make the wireless connection, I can see the networks ssid, and I'm prompted for a password, but the WPA shared key isn't working?
[18:13] <recon_lap> n2diy: you sure you got the right password?
[18:14] <recon_lap> n2diy: and the right network ?
[18:17] <Mike2012> hello, anyone here?
[18:18] <n2diy> recon_lap, yes, this box is connected to wireless router, showing me the shared key, and the router's ssid. The router is ten upstairs in the living room.
[18:20] <recon_lap> n2diy: that does not make sense, you mean you are in the routers config settings looking at the wpa config?
[18:21] <Mike2012> my battery meter isnt working properly... anyone have any ideas about what to do?
[18:21] <n2diy> recon_lap, yes, this box is logged into the router's admin page, the laptop is sitting next to me.
[18:22] <recon_lap> n2diy: check that the wireless card your using can do wpa
[18:23] <n2diy> recon_lap, ok.
[18:24] <n2diy> recon_lap, the label on the card only lists WEP.
[18:26] <recon_lap> n2diy: must be old, you can change the encryption on the router to WEP, it's crap encryption.
[18:30] <n2diy> recon_lap, roger that, I just disabled encryption in the router, and I'm restarting the laptop.
[18:47] <n2diy> recon_lap, the router is wide open, and I still can't connect, going to try a different card.
[18:58] <n2diy> recon_lap, neither card works, maybe I have a signal level problem?
[20:42] <Dresk> Is there a way to access the network monitor applet from another Window Manager, for example OpenBox?  I realize it's a bit contradictory to the X part of Xubuntu, but 'tis a question I have regardless
[21:17] <pcroque> Dresk: look at Lubuntu (which uses openbox). I believe it uses the same network monitor applet in its panel.
[21:17] <Unit193> Lubuntu uses LXDE on top of openbox, and it uses nm-applet.
[21:18] <Dresk> So that nm-applet has been re-written for Lubuntu?
[21:21] <pcroque> I'm not sure it needs to be rewritten. I think it's just the same package installed in Xubuntu and Lubuntu. Then the icon shows up in the system tray.
[21:22] <Unit193> What panel are you using?
[22:02] <sajan> Hey guys, server admin here new to linux on the desktop.  Moved over a year ago to Ubuntu and love it.  Want to try a different desktop manager but am wondering what the support for each is like?  Is xfce well supported, developed, and will it last?  Thanks.
[22:03] <pleia2> Xfce is actively developed (latest major release was in May), the rest of your questions are somewhat subjective and you probably want to give it a try for yourself
[22:04] <pleia2> you can ask questions on irc, mailing lists, forums...
[22:06] <sajan> Well, basically...I'm liking xfce, but don't want to move to it on all my computers/laptops if it's going to die soon or if there is any uncertainty.  Looks like xfce is here to stay though from what I'm seeing.
[22:07] <pleia2> no, the project is very active
[22:07] <pleia2> you should be fine :)
[22:07] <sajan> Cool.  Thanks.
[22:09] <Sysi> conservative xfce has gained interest after ubuntu going for unity and gnome doing radical UI change
[22:09] <Unit193> Should we bother to say Linus uses it? :P
[22:11] <sajan> lol
[22:11] <sajan> Yeah, I don't like Unity.
[22:12] <sajan> However I really want to use Ubuntu because of it's backing from Canonical.
[22:12] <sajan> Which brought me to Xubuntu, ;).
[23:50] <xnox> aloha!
[23:50] <xnox> anybody awake? =)
[23:56] <pleia2> !ask
[23:56] <pleia2> :)