[02:55] <darkxst> jbicha, are you planning to roll another iso once all the bug fixes land, or just wait for beta2 milestone?
[02:56] <darkxst> _all_, as in gdm, ubiquity and vmwgfx
[03:12] <jbicha> darkxst: I'm not sure, but there were quite a few bugs with the original Alpha
[03:12] <jbicha> how about you let us know what bugs you're interested in waiting for?
[03:26] <jbicha> you can use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/1210Alpha2 as a tracker page
[03:34] <jbicha> did the vmgfx bug get fixed in tonight's kernel update?
[03:42] <darkxst> jbicha, its in 3.5.0-14.15
[03:43] <darkxst> don't know if its hit the repo's yet though
[03:44] <darkxst> anyway I think you have all the bugs I was thinking of covered on that page under fixed: (I just added vmwgfx)
[03:46] <jbicha> it didn't seem to help VirtualBox
[03:46] <darkxst> virtualbox hasnt been committed
[03:46] <darkxst> there driver is in a seperate package
[03:46] <darkxst> virtualbox-guest-dkms
[03:47] <darkxst> (unless you have installed guest additions via virtualbox, then you get upstream package)
[03:48] <darkxst> my patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1039157/comments/33
[03:48] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1039157 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "vmwgfx kernel module not loaded by default" [Undecided,In progress]
[03:48] <darkxst> does fix virtualbox module loading
[03:52] <jbicha> have you considered submitting the virtualbox patch to Debian?
[03:54] <darkxst> no, but I probably should!
[03:54] <jbicha> yeah, we're mostly in sync with Debian for virtualbox
[03:55] <darkxst> against wheezy?
[03:56] <jbicha> well wheezy uses linux 3.2 so maybe it's not affected?
[03:57] <jbicha> against unstable is fine
[03:57] <darkxst> actually I think it has to do with Xorg 1.13
[03:57] <darkxst> not the kernel version
[03:58] <darkxst> and debian doesnt have xorg 1.13
[04:03] <darkxst> it appears that previously X would load the drm drivers, if they weren't already loaded
[04:05] <jbicha> hmm, I just tried the Fedora 18 nightly, it looks like it's still on GNOME 3.5.5
[04:06] <jbicha> there is a separate updates repo (kinda like -proposed) that 3.5.91 in it, but that still surprises me
[04:09] <darkxst> well f18 is well behind schedule!
[04:10] <darkxst> they basically bump the release date back a week, every meeting
[04:14] <jbicha> it's a striking contrast to Ubuntu which never postpones releases
[04:15] <darkxst> but ubuntu does release regardless of bugs
[04:17] <jbicha> have you tried qemu/kvm? I'm getting fallback mode but the Fedora 18 disk worked for shell mode
[04:17] <darkxst> f18 uses llvmpipe
[04:17] <darkxst> (software rendering)
[04:18] <darkxst> I don't know why it doesnt work on ubuntu
[04:19] <darkxst> and no havent tried qemu/kvm, but it doesnt have any 3D accel support
[04:19] <darkxst> although tried boxes, and didnt get very far
[04:19] <jbicha> boxes was totally broken for me too
[04:20] <darkxst> I can't even get to booting the image!
[04:20] <jbicha> yeah
[04:20] <jbicha> maybe it's the custom qemu that Ubuntu uses
[04:20] <jbicha> and that none of the Boxes developers use Ubuntu
[04:21] <darkxst> possibly
[04:22] <darkxst> hmm reportbug doesnt work so well, when postfix is broken!
[04:47] <darkxst> looks like fedora have some custom patches to make it work
[04:47] <darkxst> (gnome-shell under llvmpipe)
[05:14] <darkxst> jbicha, have reported virtualbox drm issue against debian
[05:16] <darkxst> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686994
[05:16] <ubot5> Debian bug 686994 in virtualbox-guest-dkms "virtualbox-guest-dkms: virtualbox drm driver fails to auto-load" [Normal,Open]
[06:45] <smartboyhw> jbicha: You said you need a QA Team????
[06:46] <smartboyhw> I can help:)
[06:46] <smartboyhw> Or can I PM you?
[06:48] <smartboyhw> !?
[09:05] <smartboyhw> jbicha: I found this
[09:05] <smartboyhw> https://launchpad.net/~ugr-testing
[09:05] <smartboyhw> Weird
[09:28] <smartboyhw> Yo jbicha
[10:16] <smartboyhw> jbicha: PM
[11:50] <smartboyhw> jbicha: Are you ignoring me?:(
[13:30] <darkxst> smartboyhw, that is a different/old project
[13:31] <smartboyhw> darkxst: What do you mean?
[13:31] <smartboyhw> This is a new project you know
[13:31] <darkxst> no the UGR link above
[13:31] <darkxst> is an unofficial remix
[13:31] <smartboyhw> No it is a new one
[13:31] <smartboyhw> We are trying to get it to become official
[13:32] <smartboyhw> http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/
[13:32] <darkxst> the link you posted is for the old ubuntu gnome remix
[13:32] <smartboyhw> Is the Original one
[13:32] <darkxst> unrelated
[13:32] <smartboyhw> Ah you mean the testing team thing
[13:32] <smartboyhw> I want jbicha to takeover and change it to a new one
[13:50] <darkxst> jbicha, just test gnome-shell running on llvmpipe and seems to run quite well
[13:51] <darkxst> (in vmware)
[13:57] <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1047828
[13:57] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1047828 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "enable gnome-shell to run with software rendering (llvmpipe)" [Undecided,New]
[14:03] <jbicha> smartboyhw: no I wasn't ignoring you, I have to sleep some time :)
[14:03] <smartboyhw> HAHAHA
[14:03] <darkxst> jbicha, gdm seems to work too!
[14:03] <smartboyhw> You said you want a QA Team?
[14:13] <darkxst> jbicha, it is alteast as fast as unity, if not faster. full gnome-shell experience with no 3D driver
[14:14] <darkxst> although I suspect it may struggle on a single core CPU's
[14:14] <smartboyhw> jbicha: I can help in the QA Team for sure:)
[15:14] <smartboyhw> jbicha: You listening? I wanna help
[23:38] <jbicha> darkxst: do you know if llvmpipe is blacklisted in Unity too or does Unity just ignore that gnome-session blacklist?
[23:44] <darkxst> jbicha, not entirely sure, but it looks like unity does not use gnome-session
[23:45] <jbicha> ok, I'll ask robert_ancell
[23:52] <darkxst> actually maybe it does use gnome-session, but doesnt do a hardware check like the gnome sessions