phillw | balloons: can you access https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gZwZLrdmzNiFzR6ho6oSEEdhwmZ5lsc-YCGz0patXYw/edit ? I still cannot. | 00:58 |
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balloons | phillw, I can | 01:08 |
balloons | I'm off to bed | 01:08 |
balloons | before you! haha | 01:08 |
phillw | balloons: can you copy it over to paste.ubuntu.com for me - I'll have a look at it tomorrow | 01:09 |
balloons | phillw, | 01:09 |
balloons | lol | 01:09 |
balloons | ! | 01:09 |
balloons | yes of course | 01:09 |
balloons | phillw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191868/ | 01:09 |
phillw | I' also heading for bed (just past 2am here) | 01:10 |
balloons | good night phillw | 01:10 |
phillw | tc, I'll just have a quick read whilst i'm watching a programme on the telly :) | 01:11 |
phillw | ahh, it needs formatting... a job for tomorrow! | 01:11 |
smartboyhw | phillw: PING | 01:23 |
phillw | smartboyhw: hiyas, I'm shortly off to bed :) | 01:24 |
smartboyhw | phillw: Have you done Jackson's new testcase for Xubuntu> | 01:24 |
phillw | smartboyhw: Nicholas has just copied it over to pastebin for me, i will format it up tomorrow (It's currently done to the old old style). | 01:25 |
smartboyhw | HAHAHA | 01:25 |
smartboyhw | Why can't you edit the file? | 01:25 |
smartboyhw | There's a new version https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gZwZLrdmzNiFzR6ho6oSEEdhwmZ5lsc-YCGz0patXYw/edit | 01:26 |
phillw | probably my cache still queueing up. As long as I have it I can format it up. | 01:26 |
smartboyhw | :) | 01:27 |
phillw | did you ever convert your test case to the new format. | 01:31 |
phillw | ? | 01:31 |
smartboyhw | No, don't have time... | 01:32 |
phillw | as you will see from the L-wiki-doc email thread, Our boss wants them to edit up the test cases and add 3 new ones. | 01:32 |
smartboyhw | Ubuntu Studio documentations killed me:) | 01:32 |
phillw | smartboyhw: then make the time. | 01:32 |
smartboyhw | ;) | 01:33 |
smartboyhw | Which 3? I can't find | 01:33 |
phillw | the key word was 'add' :) | 01:34 |
smartboyhw | Er...No! | 01:34 |
smartboyhw | I searched Gmail already | 01:35 |
smartboyhw | Can't find | 01:35 |
smartboyhw | phillw: Come on:)\ | 01:37 |
phillw | smartboyhw: http://pastebin.com/h8RtqTXk | 01:38 |
smartboyhw | Ah these | 01:38 |
smartboyhw | Oh alright | 01:38 |
smartboyhw | phillw: I don't understand however: What do you mean by the "old old" format??? | 01:39 |
phillw | too many old's :) | 01:39 |
smartboyhw | Then what is the new one? LOL phillw | 01:39 |
phillw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseAdmins/ManagementOverview | 01:40 |
smartboyhw | Yes that is the one I'm trying to format:) | 01:40 |
phillw | Test case has additional formating and is now "Do 'X'", Expect 'Y'Y" | 01:40 |
smartboyhw | Tell me if http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases/1300/edit is correct | 01:41 |
smartboyhw | Testcase ID 1300 | 01:41 |
smartboyhw | If yes I will follow it:) | 01:41 |
phillw | smartboyhw: looks okay. don't forget to add the bit at the bottom :) | 01:45 |
smartboyhw | ;) | 01:45 |
phillw | I'm off to bed, catch everyone later today! | 01:45 |
smartboyhw | Bye phillw | 01:46 |
smartboyhw | phillw: Have you gone to bed? | 02:09 |
smartboyhw | I mean now | 02:09 |
smartboyhw | I have formatted the testcase already | 02:09 |
phillw | no, I'm just chilling | 02:09 |
smartboyhw | Look at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/22747/testcases/1431/results | 02:09 |
smartboyhw | and see if I did anything wrong:) | 02:09 |
phillw | looks good, but the original author missed a step between 27 & 28 | 02:11 |
smartboyhw | phillw: Which step? | 02:11 |
phillw | hi sagaci, smartboyhw has formatted up the test case http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/22747/testcases/1431/results | 02:12 |
phillw | How to launch the terminal :) | 02:12 |
smartboyhw | OH damn it:) | 02:12 |
sagaci | ah right | 02:12 |
phillw | This is the pain of test cases.... every click must be documented so a person who has never used the system before can follow it. | 02:13 |
phillw | I think of what I assume to be 5 steps, and then explain to my Mum... There ends up being 20 steps! | 02:13 |
smartboyhw | OK edited | 02:14 |
smartboyhw | phillw: Check if it is correct, since I'm using Ubuntu Studio I think it is | 02:15 |
phillw | smartboyhw: what do click on to close it down? | 02:16 |
phillw | step 40 | 02:16 |
smartboyhw | Well it is the authors fault, but I will edit it:( | 02:17 |
phillw | smartboyhw: he is a new author, it takes time to get up to speed. | 02:17 |
smartboyhw | OH yeah | 02:17 |
phillw | I could say... well, you should have spotted the ommissions :P | 02:18 |
phillw | smartboyhw: for your next task, go convert your wiki page for that test you wrote into a fully compliant test case :D | 02:20 |
smartboyhw | LOL | 02:20 |
smartboyhw | OK edited the testcase | 02:20 |
phillw | you will quickly realise it is a tough job to write a test case. (I'm dreading doing the file manager one for pcmanfm) | 02:20 |
smartboyhw | :) | 02:21 |
phillw | sagaci: can you see the edits that have been made? | 02:21 |
phillw | it was a couple of extra steps that need putting in and that we are guilty of forgetting. | 02:23 |
phillw | *we are all* | 02:23 |
smartboyhw | ;) | 02:23 |
phillw | smartboyhw: please post up your wiki based test case that needs converting so that sagaci can see the work that must be done on some test cases. | 02:24 |
smartboyhw | phillw: What do you mean? | 02:24 |
phillw | the one I was going to run through with you a few weeks back. | 02:25 |
phillw | that transition is going to be a really good example for new comers who are used to wiki writing getting used to test case writing. | 02:26 |
phillw | I'm also more familiar with wiki writing, so I'm still learning :) | 02:28 |
phillw | hmm, I've had a spammer on my forum area >:o | 02:31 |
phillw | bbs | 02:31 |
phillw | hmm, long time since my archive area was attacked.... :/ http://forum.phillw.net/index.php | 02:36 |
phillw | back, user banned and posts removed. | 02:41 |
sagaci | phillw: the gnome-buntu remix won't be added to the tracker until it become a recognised flavour, right? | 02:45 |
phillw | sagaci: that's not a call I can make. But from my time with lubuntu before it got accepted I'd say not. There are many community respins and it would be simply too great a workload on those who look after the tracker. | 02:47 |
sagaci | not that it matters to me that much anyhow, I only test vanilla ubuntu | 02:49 |
phillw | If that team need an iso hosting area, then SII are committed to supporting other teams http://thesii.org/iso/ | 02:50 |
phillw | it is a decent beast and has good speed and plenty of bandwidth allowance (10 Tb/month) | 02:51 |
noskcaj | phillw: is the testcase ready for publishing? | 03:01 |
phillw | noskcaj: I'll check with Nicholas later, as far as I'm concerned it is good to go :) | 03:02 |
noskcaj | cool | 03:12 |
phillw | smartboyhw: did the formatting and then the edits needed for the couple of missing steps :) | 03:18 |
phillw | And, I'm deffo off to bed! I'll leave you all with a giggle... http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com/15927/10-more-awkward-autocorrects-with-parents/ | 03:18 |
phillw | wonderful :D | 03:18 |
noskcaj | lol | 03:26 |
noskcaj | i've emailed everyone on the mailing list a draft for the xubuntu manual partitioning testcase, can someone plz upload it to the site | 06:07 |
smartboyhw | Oh OK wait, I did the whole disk one already | 06:12 |
noskcaj | ? | 06:13 |
smartboyhw | noskcaj: I already uploaded the whole disk draft that you written | 06:14 |
noskcaj | thanks | 06:14 |
smartboyhw | But gimme some time to do the manual one:) | 06:14 |
noskcaj | ok, it has some layout problems because libre office messed something up | 06:15 |
smartboyhw | ha | 06:16 |
smartboyhw | noskcaj: Where IS the draft? | 06:18 |
smartboyhw | There is no link in there | 06:18 |
noskcaj | its an attachment | 06:19 |
noskcaj | this time | 06:19 |
smartboyhw | No attachment | 06:19 |
smartboyhw | At all | 06:19 |
noskcaj | one sec | 06:19 |
noskcaj | something wierd happened | 06:19 |
noskcaj | i'll try and get it to you | 06:20 |
smartboyhw | HA | 06:21 |
smartboyhw | OK:) | 06:21 |
noskcaj | smartboyhw: its up now as an attachment | 06:22 |
smartboyhw | Alright | 06:22 |
smartboyhw | Sent it to me:_) | 06:22 |
noskcaj | its to the ubuntu mailing list in an email with no subject | 06:24 |
smartboyhw | OK. The QA one? | 06:24 |
noskcaj | yes | 06:28 |
smartboyhw | I can't receive it | 06:43 |
smartboyhw | noskcaj: Please resend:) | 06:45 |
noskcaj | ok | 06:50 |
smartboyhw | :) | 06:50 |
noskcaj | smartboyhw: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B57km_mHQf74WV8wVS0tOVEwVmc | 06:51 |
noskcaj | its above 4kb so was blocked | 06:52 |
smartboyhw | Oh alright:)( | 06:52 |
smartboyhw | Downloaded | 06:52 |
smartboyhw | Changing now, wait a moment noskcaj, I think will be finished 1 hour later | 06:55 |
noskcaj | thanks | 06:56 |
Guest70424 | my harddrive is fried but i was able to bring up ubuntu by putting it on an external hard drive... now i would like to put everything on that external onto a 16 gb thumb drive... any suggestions? is this possible? | 06:57 |
smartboyhw | noskcaj: I added it already | 07:02 |
smartboyhw | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/22747/testcases/1432/results | 07:02 |
Guest70424 | my harddrive is fried but i was able to bring up ubuntu by putting it on an external hard drive... now i would like to put everything on that external onto a 16 gb thumb drive... any suggestions? is this possible? | 07:03 |
smartboyhw | Guest70424, | 07:04 |
smartboyhw | please be patient | 07:04 |
smartboyhw | !support | Guest70424 | 07:04 |
ubot5 | Guest70424: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com | 07:04 |
smartboyhw | Though it IS possible | 07:04 |
Guest70424 | i didny know that someone saw my post... my bad | 07:05 |
smartboyhw | HAHAHA | 07:05 |
Guest70424 | thx | 07:05 |
smartboyhw | noskcaj, please check the link I've given you:) | 07:05 |
smartboyhw | noskcaj: Now let us see will balloons let you in the Ubuntu Testcase Admins Team:) | 07:07 |
Guest70424 | !support | 07:07 |
ubot5 | The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com | 07:07 |
smartboyhw | Type /join #ubuntu | 07:07 |
Guest70424 | okay appreciate it | 07:08 |
noskcaj | smartboyhw: thanks, should i do one for the auto-resize? | 07:18 |
smartboyhw | noskcaj: Well if best yes but I do wonder: Have you talked to the guys in #xubuntu-devel ? | 07:18 |
noskcaj | not really, why? | 07:18 |
smartboyhw | noskcaj: I think you would want to have a talk with them, if not they will kill both you and me | 07:19 |
smartboyhw | For editing the testcases | 07:19 |
smartboyhw | Also tell them you have written it | 07:19 |
noskcaj | ok | 07:19 |
smartboyhw | So they can know:) | 07:20 |
noskcaj | i will | 07:20 |
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pleia2 | at our QA jam in San Francisco now :) | 20:28 |
pleia2 | some people are finding typos in some test cases, where to report? (I just told them to join here and mention it) | 20:28 |
paulproteus | Hi pleia2! | 20:32 |
paulproteus | nskaggs's http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1418/info script has a typo in it, and I wasn't sure where to report it. | 20:33 |
pleia2 | balloons ^^ | 20:34 |
paulproteus | Oh, that's why the video said, "Hi, I'm balloons" | 20:34 |
paulproteus | ! | 20:34 |
pleia2 | yep :) | 20:34 |
paulproteus | The page says: "Click 'New' button form toolbar". It should say: "Click 'New' button from the toolbar". Sed script that would fix that: s/form toolbar/from the toolbar/ | 20:49 |
noskcaj | in todays daily build ubuntu amd64 the slideshow dosn't auto-scroll after you manually move the slides, is this a bug | 20:51 |
paulproteus | noskcaj: That is almost definitely a bug. | 20:55 |
noskcaj | then i shall get reporting | 20:55 |
pleia2 | knome: see paulproteus' comment | 21:00 |
pleia2 | (knome has fixing superpowers :)) | 21:00 |
knome | let me boot my desktop machine and i'll fix it | 21:00 |
paulproteus | Ooh, lovely | 21:02 |
knome | paulproteus, pleia2: updated | 21:07 |
pleia2 | thanks :) | 21:07 |
knome | if you have other similar issues, just ping me | 21:07 |
paulproteus | Sounds great, thanks! | 21:08 |
knome | np | 21:08 |
scientes | Type in “The quick brown foxes jump over the lazy dog” | 21:15 |
scientes | in gedit | 21:15 |
scientes | it should be "fox" | 21:15 |
pleia2 | scientes: which page? | 21:16 |
scientes | and "jumps" | 21:16 |
scientes | http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/235/builds/22730/testcases/1420/results | 21:16 |
pleia2 | ^^ knome | 21:16 |
knome | unless there are several foxes that jump? :) | 21:16 |
pleia2 | hehe | 21:16 |
geofft_ | is there a fix for the Ubiquity installer crash? | 21:17 |
geofft_ | or an LP bug or something? | 21:17 |
paulproteus | pleia2: Am curious what the bug number for the black-on-black text issue is; when you find it, let me know! | 21:27 |
pleia2 | 744283 | 21:28 |
paulproteus | Thumbs up | 21:28 |
paulproteus | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/22864/testcases/1431/results/ # Report filed | 21:38 |
paulproteus | We'll see if it's fixed tomorrow! | 21:38 |
knome | noskcaj, you around? | 21:48 |
* geofft_ waves to price-livecd | 21:49 | |
pleia2 | :) | 21:49 |
price-livecd | Hi all | 21:50 |
price-livecd | I have a bug in a test script on packages.qa -- are there people here who can address that? | 21:50 |
price-livecd | specifically, evince/evn-005 at http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/235/builds/22727/testcases/1417/results | 21:51 |
price-livecd | calls for Evince to display "a sidebar with page thumbnails" | 21:51 |
pleia2 | knome: ^^ | 21:51 |
price-livecd | in fact, in my testing it showed a sidebar with an index of sections and subsections | 21:51 |
knome | price-livecd, what should it say? | 21:51 |
price-livecd | perhaps "with either page thumbnails or an index" | 21:51 |
knome | price-livecd, reload, should be fixed | 21:53 |
price-livecd | great -- actually I would leave out the mention of sections and subsections | 21:53 |
price-livecd | that's what it was in this document | 21:54 |
price-livecd | which was a LaTeX article | 21:54 |
knome | ah, right | 21:54 |
price-livecd | it might be different in a document which came from some other source | 21:54 |
knome | refresh | 21:54 |
price-livecd | excellent | 21:54 |
price-livecd | also in the empathy test script at http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/235/builds/22726/testcases/1415/results | 21:56 |
price-livecd | it says "Select 'Edit - Accounts' from menu" | 21:56 |
price-livecd | there is no Edit -> Accounts | 21:57 |
price-livecd | it's Empathy -> Accounts | 21:57 |
knome | refresh | 21:57 |
price-livecd | great | 21:57 |
price-livecd | and the wizard that results has a different name | 21:57 |
price-livecd | actually | 21:57 |
price-livecd | the whole description of the wizard isn't what I see | 21:57 |
knome | hmm? | 21:57 |
price-livecd | instead of "'Messaging and VOIP Accounts Assistant' wizard appears, 'Welcome to Empathy' step is displayed" | 21:58 |
price-livecd | I get an 'Online Accounts' window, and there is no mention of Empathy in it | 21:58 |
price-livecd | and the next step doesn't match either | 21:58 |
knome | hmm | 21:58 |
price-livecd | I could report this, but I suspect the developers/maintainers don't see it as a bug -- just a change from the last release (or whenever the test script was written) | 21:59 |
knome | refresh - does it match now? | 22:00 |
price-livecd | no, there's no "Yes, I'll enter my account details now" | 22:00 |
price-livecd | or "What kind of chat account do you have?" combobox | 22:01 |
knome | ok, in that case | 22:01 |
knome | can you write how it should appear, and add it to paste.ubuntu.com or so | 22:01 |
knome | and i'll update it with correct information | 22:01 |
price-livecd | ok | 22:01 |
knome | thanks | 22:01 |
price-livecd | knome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193540/ | 22:06 |
knome | price-livecd, thanks, i'll update in a min | 22:06 |
noskcaj | knome: yeah | 22:08 |
knome | price-livecd, so are the steps from "check contact list" ok? | 22:08 |
price-livecd | oh, I missed those -- looking | 22:09 |
price-livecd | well | 22:09 |
price-livecd | the instructions said to cancel at the end, so I did | 22:09 |
price-livecd | I'll change that | 22:10 |
knome | hey noskcaj | 22:11 |
noskcaj | hey knome | 22:11 |
knome | can you check the backlog in #xubuntu? | 22:11 |
knome | from 21:40UTC | 22:11 |
noskcaj | i havent joined #xubuntu only #xubuntu-devel | 22:11 |
knome | sorry | 22:11 |
knome | of course devel, and 22:40 UTC too | 22:12 |
knome | so ~30mins ago | 22:12 |
noskcaj | what am i looking for? | 22:12 |
knome | well, i can repaste too | 22:12 |
knome | it's a few lines | 22:13 |
knome | a se | 22:13 |
knome | *sec | 22:13 |
knome | 00:41 knome: was somebody working on the testcases? | 22:13 |
knome | 00:42 knome: i see that we now have specific "entire disk" testcases for xubuntu | 22:13 |
knome | 00:42 knome: i thought the idea was to keep the maintaining effort as small as possible, and this looks like we're just making it bigger | 22:13 |
knome | 00:42 knome: is there really so big differences? i thought it was just the distro name and that | 22:13 |
price-livecd | knome: they're good -- 'No thanks' should be changed to 'Allow access' | 22:14 |
noskcaj | i would like to spend most of my time maintaining the testcases so i dont mind the amount of work | 22:14 |
silverarrow | i like to spend more time on my bicycle | 22:15 |
noskcaj | silverarrow: piont being | 22:16 |
noskcaj | *point | 22:16 |
silverarrow | not so much point really | 22:16 |
silverarrow | i am trouble shooting for gnome mplayer and gecko | 22:17 |
silverarrow | hoping I might provide some info to the key guys building the packages | 22:17 |
silverarrow | or something like that | 22:17 |
silverarrow | it is sooo close to working | 22:17 |
knome | noskcaj, well, still, if it's just the Ubuntu/Xubuntu difference, i believe it's unnecessary work | 22:18 |
knome | noskcaj, we'll also lose the benefit of always being "up-to-date" with the ubuntu tests | 22:18 |
knome | noskcaj, or, at least we will lag behind until somebody happens to be around and updates that | 22:19 |
noskcaj | their are extra things like integrating bits of the xubuntu short testcase that most xubuntu tester use | 22:19 |
noskcaj | and how will we lose the up-to-date thing | 22:20 |
knome | noskcaj, i just created the short testcase as it's own testcase, so no need to integrate that to the installation tests | 22:20 |
noskcaj | ok | 22:20 |
knome | when somebody updates the ubuntu testcase, we will need to update the xubuntu testcase too. if you aren't around exactly at the moment the update happens, there will be lag | 22:21 |
noskcaj | ok | 22:21 |
knome | and since those updates aren't announced anywhere, that'd mean you would need to monitor the testcases every day at all times | 22:21 |
knome | and i just think that's a waste of everybody's time, including yours :) | 22:21 |
noskcaj | so.... | 22:21 |
noskcaj | yeah | 22:21 |
knome | so if the differences are just ubuntu/xubuntu wording, i'd rather use the "ubuntu" testcases | 22:21 |
noskcaj | i shall give up, just keep the short testcase in | 22:22 |
knome | if there are bigger differences that can be justified/rationalized, then it's ok to create xubuntu-specific stuff | 22:22 |
knome | ok, will you revert to the ubuntu testcases or shall i? | 22:22 |
knome | the short testcase is called "post-installation tests (xubuntu)" | 22:22 |
knome | if you are wondering where it is :) | 22:23 |
noskcaj | only one or two things that arn't just rewords and can you fix it as i'm not an admin | 22:23 |
noskcaj | i know | 22:23 |
knome | what are those things? | 22:23 |
noskcaj | ??? | 22:23 |
knome | 01:23 noskcaj: only one or two things that arn't just rewords and can you fix it as i'm not an admin | 22:23 |
knome | what are you referring to with those few things? | 22:23 |
noskcaj | the launcher at the bottom, the app search and the abiword thing | 22:24 |
noskcaj | plus changeing ubuntu.com to xubuntu.org | 22:24 |
knome | right, but those are in the post-installation tests, right? | 22:24 |
noskcaj | yes | 22:24 |
knome | yeah | 22:24 |
noskcaj | so take them down please and are there any testcases that need updating | 22:25 |
knome | hmm, not really | 22:25 |
knome | i need to add the old "long" test | 22:25 |
noskcaj | ok | 22:25 |
knome | if you want to help with that, it's welcome | 22:26 |
noskcaj | i cant because i'm not an admin | 22:26 |
knome | right | 22:26 |
knome | i meant with creating the markup | 22:26 |
knome | we currently have the wikimarkup, and that should be converted to html for the testcase | 22:26 |
noskcaj | the live testcase still specifies ext3 instead of ext4 is there a reaser for that? | 22:27 |
noskcaj | i could try | 22:27 |
knome | i don't know about that | 22:27 |
knome | ok, i'll set up a pad, just a sec | 22:27 |
knome | noskcaj, http://typewith.me/p/x-qa-desktoptest | 22:28 |
knome | noskcaj, i'm using an alternative markup method, which is much easier | 22:28 |
knome | noskcaj, inside <dl>, <dt> describes what you should do and <dd> what should happen | 22:29 |
noskcaj | ok | 22:29 |
knome | noskcaj, the long test is decribed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Long | 22:29 |
noskcaj | i shall start working on that then | 22:29 |
knome | noskcaj, we probably will need to change some of the wording (shorter is better, as long as it is understandable) | 22:29 |
knome | noskcaj, thanks for the help :) | 22:39 |
noskcaj | ok | 22:39 |
knome | noskcaj, thanks again :) | 23:10 |
knome | now i need to go to bed | 23:10 |
knome | see you! | 23:10 |
noskcaj | bye | 23:10 |
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