[01:30] <binarymutant> did anyone do the Arch fontconfig update yet?
[01:30] <chris4585> binarymutant, yes
[01:31] <binarymutant> did you have to link stuff?
[01:31] <chris4585> sudo pacman -S --force fontconfig
[01:31] <chris4585> do that, do not do pacman -Syyu --force
[01:31] <binarymutant> I already upgraded, but the blog post starts talking about linking stuff...
[01:31] <chris4585> I thought that it was going to be a pita but it was just that simple
[01:33] <binarymutant> I don't want to link all those files by hand...
[01:33] <binarymutant> http://www.archlinux.org/news/fontconfig-2101-update-manual-intervention-required/
[01:34] <chris4585> hrmm, I didn't do all that jazz... I looked up the error and did pacman -S --force fontconfig and it seemed to work fine
[01:34] <chris4585> I probably should have looked that up
[01:34] <binarymutant> have you restarted since?
[01:35] <chris4585> yeah
[01:35] <binarymutant> the `ln -s ../conf.avail/XX-foo.conf
[01:35] <binarymutant> ` would be annoying if I have to do it by hand
[01:35] <binarymutant> cool. I guess I don't have to worry then
[01:36] <chris4585> I guess, I haven't noticed anything bad happening
[01:37] <binarymutant> cool
[01:37] <binarymutant> thanks man :D
[01:40] <chris4585> binarymutant, here is the source I used https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Q:_I_get_an_error_when_updating:_.22file_exists_in_filesystem.22.21
[01:41] <binarymutant> ever since the /lib /usr/lib thing I've been checking the homepage for any issues
[01:41] <chris4585> yeah, I probably should have and I guess its safe to remove those files in the first link?
[01:42] <binarymutant> idk since you'
[01:42] <binarymutant> ve already installed
[03:11] <wrst> oh me chris4585 the -force option is supposedly the death of your system sometimes :)
[03:12] <chris4585> well I looked up the error, and did what the wiki said and nothing bad happened
[03:13] <binarymutant> dangit did I miss the meeting again?
[03:14] <chris4585> there was a meeting?
[03:15] <binarymutant> idk :/
[03:15] <binarymutant> but I just realized it's friday
[03:17] <wrst> binarymutant: no meeting there was talk of moving the time possible during the day when it seems people are more active however
[03:18] <wrst> chris4585: yeah i doubt anything with fonts will hose anything :)
[03:18] <chris4585> lol
[03:20] <binarymutant> cool
[03:23] <wrst> i have been running the beta of 12.10
[03:23] <chris4585> with gnome?
[03:25] <wrst> chris4585: yep, i started with a 12.04 netinstall iso or mini whatever they call it so i didn't pull in all the junk (unity) and upgraded yesterday
[03:26] <chris4585> ah cool
[03:27] <wrst> yeah its very sluggish however
[03:34] <chris4585> I'm kind of experiencing the same thing, on liveusb though it was snappy but installed not so much
[03:35] <chris4585> I think it is using the same drivers too
[03:42] <wrst> yeah i don't require any proprietary drivers for everything to work
[03:42] <wrst> be interesting how the final release is
[20:22] <chris4585> I had a feeling this would eventually happen, but the vote results at the bottom kind of surprised me as I thought I was the only person who used liveusbs http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29&utm_content=FaceBook
[20:42] <wrst> chris4585: is that really such a big deal now?
[20:44] <chris4585> nope
[20:44] <chris4585> I don't really care unless its like 4gbs or something
[20:44] <wrst> I do like it being small
[20:45] <wrst> yep chris4585 exactly what I was thinking
[20:47] <chris4585> just surprised me by how many people used usb
[21:38] <wrst> its so easy especially how easy Ubuntu makes it