| Kilos | hi superfly magespawn and others | 06:48 |
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| superfly | morning Kilos | 06:48 |
| Kilos | whats a doodle | 06:48 |
| Kilos | as in the startrek doodle | 06:48 |
| Kilos | just a pic? | 06:50 |
| superfly | a doodle is a drawing you do when you're bored... I presume they mean the same thing? | 07:07 |
| Kilos | ty superfly so at least doodling still means the same thing | 07:15 |
| superfly | Kilos: I don't know - I don't know what the star trek doodle is.... | 07:16 |
| superfly | oh wait, are they talking about google's doodles? | 07:16 |
| Kilos | nor me but niece mailed me a pic and i wondered if that is what merryjay was talking about last night | 07:17 |
| superfly | bwahahaha | 07:18 |
| superfly | yes, google has a star trek doodle | 07:18 |
| Kilos | i sent it to youre mail | 07:18 |
| Kilos | is that it | 07:18 |
| Kilos | spells out google | 07:20 |
| Kilos | hi queery | 08:00 |
| tumbleweed | bugger, we missed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam | 10:56 |
| inetpro | It’s Official: The Ubuntu LiveCD is Dead http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead | 11:23 |
| tumbleweed | you get 800MB CDs | 11:42 |
| tumbleweed | but it's also been "official" for a while | 11:42 |
| tumbleweed | we decided to start raising the image sizes a few UDSs ago | 11:42 |
| Kilos | thats sad | 11:57 |
| tumbleweed | the argument is fairly straight-forwarrd | 11:59 |
| tumbleweed | most people install from flash drives | 11:59 |
| tumbleweed | and trying to keep a working desktop on 1 CD was getting close to impossible | 11:59 |
| tumbleweed | we still have the tiny netinst CD (30MB) | 12:00 |
| Kilos | so tell about the 800m cds tumbleweed | 12:00 |
| tumbleweed | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R#Physical_characteristics | 12:03 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: I install from flash drive as well | 12:04 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: what's the reasoning behind limiting it to 800MB specifically? Why not a bit more? | 12:04 |
| tumbleweed | we add 50MB each release | 12:04 |
| Kilos | inetpro, thats fine for geeks but methinks many prospective users will now go to other flavours | 12:04 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed, take some of the office stuff out and make them installable later | 12:05 |
| tumbleweed | how about people without internet access? | 12:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 12:05 |
| tumbleweed | debian has hit similar trouble. It currently hase XFCE on the first CD, because gnome won't fit any more | 12:06 |
| inetpro | office should be absolutely standard software for everyone | 12:06 |
| tumbleweed | (even though, we geeks never use office software) | 12:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:06 |
| tumbleweed | apparently everyone eles does | 12:06 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: eh | 12:06 |
| Kilos | yes but as with winsucks office can come later | 12:06 |
| tumbleweed | inetpro: when was the last time you used an office suite? I can't remember the last time I did | 12:07 |
| tumbleweed | but it was probably to read something someone had sent me | 12:07 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: I use spreadsheets a lot | 12:07 |
| inetpro | and then I have started using Libreoffice draw more often lately | 12:07 |
| inetpro | using it for drawing network diagrams | 12:07 |
| Kilos | make office a separate cd | 12:08 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 12:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:08 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: when was the last time you used a CD? | 12:08 |
| tumbleweed | my laptop doesn't even have an optical drive | 12:08 |
| Kilos | everytime i install | 12:08 |
| * inetpro has no need for an optical drive either | 12:09 | |
| tumbleweed | DVDs don't cost more than CDs | 12:09 |
| Kilos | only have a cdrom | 12:09 |
| tumbleweed | and nobody has a CD drive that can't read DVDs | 12:09 |
| Kilos | cdroms cant rewad dvds | 12:09 |
| Kilos | read | 12:09 |
| tumbleweed | right, but cdrom drives haven't been on the market for years | 12:09 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: I think there might be a few around still but I agree it's time to move on | 12:10 |
| Kilos | dvd can read cd but not vice versa | 12:10 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: yes, but nobody has bought one in at laest 5 years | 12:10 |
| tumbleweed | and drives more than 5 years old are pretty unlikely to be working | 12:10 |
| Kilos | lol i did | 12:10 |
| tumbleweed | where did you find one? | 12:11 |
| inetpro | I think it's time for DVD players to come with a USB port | 12:11 |
| Kilos | pc shop | 12:11 |
| tumbleweed | inetpro: they usually do | 12:11 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: serious!? | 12:11 |
| * inetpro didn't know that | 12:11 | |
| Kerbero | usb host or usb client port? | 12:11 |
| inetpro | video shops should rent out usb flash drives :-) | 12:11 |
| inetpro | or allow you to pay per download | 12:12 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: you sure it doesn't support DVDs too? | 12:12 |
| Kilos | yip tumbleweed ive tried | 12:13 |
| * tumbleweed googles for cd-rom drive and just finds dvd drives | 12:13 | |
| Kilos | yeah times move on | 12:13 |
| Kilos | sadly | 12:13 |
| Kilos | many old pcs will stay on win xp | 12:13 |
| inetpro | hmm... did I tell about ABSA still using XP on their ATM machines? | 12:14 |
| inetpro | the other day I had this scary experience | 12:14 |
| inetpro | was trying to withdraw money when the machine suddenly just started hanging | 12:15 |
| Kilos | xp was a good os for windows | 12:15 |
| Kilos | ai | 12:15 |
| inetpro | and while I was trying to phone the number suddenly the thing started rebooting | 12:15 |
| inetpro | I was shocked to see XP booting up | 12:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:16 |
| inetpro | luckily it kicked out my card | 12:16 |
| inetpro | I turned around and went to seek for another machine | 12:16 |
| Kilos | lucky | 12:17 |
| kodez | kilos: what do you mean by saying "many old pcs will stay on win xp" | 13:03 |
| kodez | haven't you heard about ubuntu? | 13:03 |
| kodez | lubuntu? | 13:03 |
| Kilos | those that cant load 7 off a dvd or new ubuntu's | 13:03 |
| kodez | greetings everyone | 13:03 |
| Kilos | its fine now still one can make a copy of a cd and offer it to someone who wants to leave winsucks | 13:04 |
| kodez | lubuntu is working much better than win xp, even though i respect xp in the win xp | 13:04 |
| Kilos | i havent tried lubuntu | 13:05 |
| kodez | does anyone know where i can buy cd+rw? | 13:05 |
| Kilos | are they not also gonna go dvd | 13:05 |
| Kilos | look in chinese pc shops | 13:05 |
| kodez | kilos: i had installed lubuntu12.04 on my mother's old laptop and its working better than win xp | 13:06 |
| tumbleweed | lubuntu is currently at 686MB | 13:06 |
| Kilos | hi kodez | 13:06 |
| Kilos | yeah but one has to download it tumbleweed | 13:07 |
| Kilos | our cds come from canonical | 13:07 |
| tumbleweed | canonical only distributes CDs of flavours they support | 13:08 |
| tumbleweed | DVDs now, I guess | 13:09 |
| Kilos | yeah | 13:09 |
| Kilos | so i gotta invest in a dvdrom | 13:09 |
| Kilos | i kinda got used to unity | 13:09 |
| tumbleweed | get a flash drive | 13:10 |
| kodez | hi uncle Kilos | 13:10 |
| Kilos | kodez, where are you? | 13:10 |
| Kilos | and how do i get it for the flash tumbleweed | 13:10 |
| tumbleweed | download it | 13:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:11 |
| tumbleweed | 800MB costs R10 to download on DSL | 13:11 |
| Kilos | and older pcs cant boot from flash drives | 13:11 |
| tumbleweed | only really old ones | 13:12 |
| Kilos | 3g? | 13:12 |
| tumbleweed | probably ~R100 | 13:13 |
| tumbleweed | less if you buy a big bundle | 13:13 |
| Kilos | if i had adsl i would have downloaded all the flavours already | 13:13 |
| Kilos | and played with 12.10 too | 13:13 |
| kodez | Kilos: I eside in Mamelodi East, just next to Hans Strydom | 13:13 |
| kodez | reside | 13:14 |
| kodez | not far from MaxCity Complex | 13:14 |
| Kilos | one gets lots of the older pc goodies from chinese shops or even worth a try at indian shops | 13:17 |
| Kilos | we even got a 80G ide drive from one in pta coupla years ago | 13:18 |
| Kilos | or last resort is second hand from shops that do pc upgrading | 13:19 |
| inetpro | who's going to Software Freedom Day next weekend? | 14:08 |
| inetpro | oh and I mean Software Freedom Day at Wits in JHB | 14:09 |
| * inetpro is thinking about taking the Gautrain | 14:10 | |
| Kilos | inetpro, you got 5 mins? | 14:33 |
| inetpro | Kilos: in a minute or two | 14:35 |
| Kilos | k | 14:35 |
| superfly | inetpro: does the Gautrain have a station in Cape Town? | 14:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:35 |
| inetpro | superfly: would be nice | 14:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ok shoot | 14:38 |
| Kilos | i have 2 ubuntu pcs showing cable connected must i go with remote desktop to see the other one | 14:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hmm | 14:39 |
| inetpro | now this one could twist into many different topics | 14:40 |
| inetpro | so lets' start at the basics | 14:40 |
| Kilos | oh my | 14:40 |
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| Kilos | if its gonna take lots of your time dont worry now | 14:41 |
| Kilos | is there a link i can read up on it | 14:41 |
| inetpro | I guess you should just start by having both laptops configured on the ethernet interface with IP addresses and netmasks in the same range | 14:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: are they both ubuntu? | 14:41 |
| Kilos | ya 12.04 and 11.04 | 14:42 |
| inetpro | ok which one do you connect with to the interwebs? | 14:42 |
| inetpro | I guess 12.04? | 14:42 |
| Kilos | 12.04 | 14:42 |
| Kilos | 3g | 14:43 |
| Kilos | but modem can go to either one | 14:43 |
| inetpro | do you have an IP address assigned to the cable/ethernet interface? | 14:43 |
| inetpro | with network manager | 14:44 |
| Kilos | ya i think so | 14:44 |
| inetpro | can you confirm | 14:44 |
| inetpro | go to cli | 14:44 |
| inetpro | ifconfig -a | 14:44 |
| inetpro | or sudo ifconfig -a | 14:45 |
| Kilos | must i pste it? | 14:45 |
| Kilos | paste | 14:46 |
| inetpro | may be a bit long | 14:46 |
| Kilos | lotsa info | 14:46 |
| Kilos | go my channel | 14:46 |
| inetpro | hmm... I be on ##kilos | 14:46 |
| smile | Hi all :) | 16:01 |
| smile | Writing an e-mail in Afrikaans is not easy if it's a long one :p | 16:26 |
| inetpro | smile: hoekom? | 16:45 |
| smile | inetpro: Ek het 'n kennis in Suid-Afrika :p | 16:46 |
| inetpro | wb not_found | 16:46 |
| not_found | hi and thanks inetpro | 16:46 |
| superfly | ohi not_found | 16:49 |
| not_found | hey superfly :) | 16:49 |
| Kilos | hi not_found you well? | 16:51 |
| not_found | hey uncle Kilos ... all is well as always thanks... and over there in sunny SA? | 16:52 |
| Kilos | we all ok ty neil | 16:54 |
| Kilos | still cold though | 16:54 |
| not_found | should start warming up soon... we are loosing our heat and it must be going someplace :) | 16:55 |
| Kilos | it did then we had a bit of rain and big cold fronts | 16:56 |
| Kilos | not down to freezing again but days of 17 and 19 | 16:57 |
| Kilos | i like days of 30 | 16:57 |
| Kilos | 9 days to next meeting i think | 16:58 |
| smile | bye :) | 18:32 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:45 |
| zeref | hurrrmmmm | 19:40 |
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