[00:00] <TJ-> bolosaur: I'd guess by default all your other devices are using 2.4Ghz (802.11b/g)
[00:00] <datruth> if I remove modem-manager will I be able to connect to the internet?
[00:00] <bolosaur> TJ-: I'm on apple devices
[00:00] <bolosaur> macbook, iphone, ipad etc
[00:00] <bolosaur> so thats 2,4 then?
[00:00] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: package configuration time
[00:00] <chip_> Hello.  Is there a way to force desktop to start in a terminal?  I've got a video problem, and just see lines.  Even if I do CTRL-ALT-F2 or whatever. Not sure how to fix it without being able to see.
[00:01] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: I can't click OK
[00:01] <MonkeyDust> !text > chip_
[00:01] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: Press Enter to continue.
[00:01] <jagginess> chip_, add " 1" temporarily with the grub boot item
[00:01] <TheHumanScience> So how do you fix the brightness applet from the terminal. 10.04?
[00:01] <jagginess> chip_, (end of kernel bootline)
[00:01] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: Not working
[00:02] <TheHumanScience> mine has a ghostbbusters circle on it
[00:02] <chip_> cool, thanks
[00:02] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: Please post a screenshot.
[00:02] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | otterpawOnLaptop
[00:03] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/227625
[00:03] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: Press tab until the Ok button is highlighted.
[00:03] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: ok, that worked
[00:04] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: While this may look somewhat like a GUI, it's meant for terminals and doesn't accept mouse input.
[00:04] <otterpawOnLaptop> http://pastebin.com/2NCuT4qJ
[00:04] <otterpawOnLaptop> ok
[00:05] <bolosaur> TJ-: My MacBook says that it has the following model: Wireless Network Adapter (802.11 a/b/g/n)
[00:05] <bolosaur> isnt that kind of... vague? :P
[00:05] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: Navigate to /dev/sda with the arrow keys and press space bar to select it, then hit Enter to continue.
[00:05] <TheHumanScience> So how do you fix the brightness applet from the terminal. 10.04?
[00:05] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U:  I thought that we were trying to install it in sda5?
[00:06] <jagginess> TheHumanScience, 10.04 is pretty old
[00:06] <TJ-> bolosaur: No, it's telling you what it can do (802.11a (5.8GHz), 802.11b/g (2.4GHz) and 802.11n (MIMO/wider 40MHz channels)
[00:06] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: This question is asking about where grub's boot sector should go, not where the /boot/grub/ directory lives. Grub's boot sector should always go in the MBR (not in any partition).
[00:06] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: ok
[00:07] <TheHumanScience> yea but all the new ones suck
[00:07] <bolosaur> TJ-: OK, so that means I should set 2,4 GHz then?
[00:07] <jagginess> TheHumanScience, i think the older ones suck, that's why people upgrade :)
[00:07] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: Finished http://pastebin.com/V55fHTnt
[00:08] <TJ->  bolosaur: Now *that* has reminded me of something!!! When I installed hostapd on the server here for the Wifi network, it wouldn't connect or be found... I eventually tracked it down to the fact that because the hardware supported wide (40MHz) channels hostapd told it to use them - which meant all the regular 802.11g equipment couldn't 'see' the WAP. I had to change a setting in hostapd config to control that. It could be there's something similar for your situation
[00:08] <TJ-> too
[00:08] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: Geat. Now try rebooting.
[00:08] <TheHumanScience> thats also why there are different flavors for different people. im not here for a debate on distros. i just need help with the one i have.
[00:08] <bolosaur> TJ-: Rofl, I'm sorry but I don't understand a word of that. :(
[00:08] <bolosaur> I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to hardware.
[00:08] <TJ-> bolosaur: regular 802.11b/g used 20MHz wide channels
[00:08] <unless> When I lock my screen it seems instead of it get turn off it just reduces the bright to a minimum amount. Is it normal or it is happening because it is missing a video driver or something?
[00:08] <bolosaur> I try, but I've only got surface knowledge of everything.
[00:08] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: apparantly there's still a process running
[00:08] <bolosaur> Hm ok.
[00:09] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: The prompt is usabe though
[00:09] <bolosaur> So what you're saying is that Ubuntu is misrepresenting the band options?
[00:09] <bolosaur> or something?
[00:09] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: I guess "Setting up grub-gfxpayload-lists (0.6) ..." is doing something still
[00:09] <TJ-> bolosaur: It's the amount of bandwidth each radio frequency channel uses. The 2.4GHz band has room for 11-14 20MHz channels
[00:09] <bolosaur> okay
[00:09] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: Why do you think that?
[00:09] <bolosaur> I know you've helped me out a lot already, but do you think you could point me in the right direction in regards to checking what you just said?
[00:10] <TJ-> bolosaur: No, I'm saying it could be that the hardware is automatically selecting 802.11n mode and configuring itself for 40MHz bandwidth channels
[00:10] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: When I clicked to close the window, it said "There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it."
[00:10] <TJ-> bolosaur: So now we need to found out if the log files, when adhoc mode starts, indicate the channel bandwidth (or that it is 'n' mode)
[00:10] <bolosaur> okay
[00:10] <WeThePeople> why doesnt midnight commander read the files correctly?
[00:10] <bolosaur> ill check the logs
[00:10] <TJ-> bolosaur: I'm testing it here so let me check my local logs for clues
[00:10] <Jordan_U> otterpawOnLaptop: That's just the chroot shell. "exit" will close the shell.
[00:11] <bolosaur> ok
[00:11] <otterpawOnLaptop> Jordan_U: ok, restarting
[00:11] <jagginess> WeThePeople, you mean the filenames don't look right?
[00:11] <TJ-> bolosaur: Got it!!
[00:11] <otterpaw> :D
[00:11] <bolosaur> TJ-: Awesome. I'm viewing my log file atm
[00:11] <otterpaw> Jordan_U: It works :D
[00:12] <unless> When I lock my screen it seems instead of it get turn off it just reduces the bright to a minimum amount. Is it normal or it is happening because it is missing a video driver or something?
[00:12] <WeThePeople> jagginess, ill show you.. hold on
[00:12] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: :)
[00:12] <jagginess> unless, could be many things..
[00:13] <TJ-> bolosaur: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191812/
[00:13] <unless> jagginess, ok, and what do you suggest me first?
[00:13] <jagginess> unless, i wouldn't worry too much about it (i'd physically tap the button or use a blank screen), solving power/energy automagic with linux is still a pita and a wip
[00:13] <jagginess> ,/(blank screen saver),/
[00:13] <jagginess> :/ (true only power savings that work well for me is intel motherboards)
[00:13] <TheHumanScience> so jagginess are saying that just bc i use an older version ur not gonna help me?
[00:14] <unless> jagginess, I am talking about a laptop here :P
[00:14] <otterpaw> ok, tomorrow, I'll actually learn how to use the terminal haha
[00:14] <jagginess> TheHumanScience, I'm saying I don't use 10.04 :/
[00:14] <unless> jagginess, it is a Intel motherboard.
[00:14] <jagginess> TheHumanScience, it may even be a bug you're looking at (so you should check the bug reports)
[00:14] <bolosaur> TJ-: OK I found an entry like that in my log file. What am I looking for specifically?
[00:14] <MonkeyDust> otterpaw  terminal is more versatile than the GUI
[00:14] <TheHumanScience> most of the terminal commands are universal
[00:14] <jagginess> unless, it's a pita. I can't say much..
[00:15] <unless> jagginess, what is a pita?
[00:15] <jagginess> unless, but I have more success with intel motherboards than non-intel ones..
[00:15] <MonkeyDust> pain in the ***
[00:15] <TJ-> bolosaur: Does it show like mine it's configuring for 40MHz channels?
[00:15] <jagginess> unless, this isn't ubuntu specific, this occurs on any linux with the hardware at hand.. (wip means a 'work in progress')
[00:15] <bolosaur> actually TJ, the start_freq is for my iphone tethering
[00:16] <bolosaur> nothing for the wifi shows i think :/
[00:16] <unless> jagginess, if I were to try figure it out what would you recommend me as first step?
[00:16] <TJ-> bolosaur: It could be it chooses that 40000 range is the one it picks
[00:16] <WeThePeople> jagginess, http://imgh.us/geoip.jpg
[00:16] <jagginess> unless, i say don't bother :/
[00:16] <unless> jagginess, ok, so there is nothing to be donne here.
[00:17] <bolosaur> TJ-: Every start_freq entry directly follows
[00:17] <unless> jagginess, I mean, besides don't bother :)
[00:17] <bolosaur> "ipeth blah blah apple iphone usb ethernet device"
[00:17] <bolosaur> so
[00:17] <jagginess> unless, you may* have an effect if you use a different default power state using the bios setup (eg, setting S3 instead of S1 as the power saving state)
[00:17] <bolosaur> am i looking at something iphone related or wifi related? :/
[00:17] <otterpaw> TJ-: Jordan_U : Thank you both for your help!
[00:18] <jagginess> unless, i did this on one of my intel machines and got a positive feedback on it (but i won't step into the howto's with bioses atm)
[00:18] <unless> jagginess, why not?
[00:18] <jagginess> unless, because you have to consult your bios manual.
[00:18] <jagginess> :/
[00:19] <jagginess> unless, and changing the bios can have adverse effects (negative ones too)
[00:19] <unless> jagginess, oh, ok. Well, I will find it and have a look.
[00:19] <Jordan_U> otterpaw: You're welcome.
[00:19] <unless> jagginess, well I am willing to try it. Thank you for now.
[00:20] <iNTEl> hey
[00:20] <iNTEl> is there is anyone can help me here
[00:20] <TJ-> bolosaur: Only the kernel reports from cfg80211
[00:20] <iNTEl> dudes
[00:21] <iNTEl> i wanna help here
[00:21] <unless> What is really the command to list the hardware I got here?
[00:21] <lauratika> hello... have to accounts is there a tutorial to share music folders between both accounts admin/standard ?
[00:21] <MonkeyDust> iNTEl  start with a question
[00:21] <bolosaur> TJ-: Yes but what I mean is, are my cfg80211 reports related to my wifi or my iphone 3gs tethering?
[00:21] <bolosaur> :/
[00:21] <OerHeks> unless, lshw lsusb lspci
[00:21] <TheHumanScience> unless: lspci
[00:22] <MonkeyDust> unless  type lshw -html > hardware.htm to have it in a nie page
[00:23] <MonkeyDust> iNTEl  keep it in the channel please
[00:23] <iNTEl> but they talking so fast
[00:23] <iNTEl> k
[00:23] <iNTEl> np i will keep it here
[00:23] <iNTEl> first to be clear
[00:24] <iNTEl> r u giving help here to linux mint
[00:24] <iNTEl> its based on ubuntu
[00:24] <unless> thank you folks!
[00:24] <unless>  ;)
[00:24] <iNTEl> ?
[00:24] <iNTEl> what?
[00:24] <iNTEl> guys how u use this thing ?
[00:24] <i7c> iNTEl: maybe, if your question is not specific. and relax, some patience pls.
[00:25] <iNTEl> k
[00:25] <MonkeyDust> !mint > iNTEl
[00:25] <iNTEl> yea
[00:25] <iNTEl> k np
[00:25] <TJ-> bolosaur: Can you pastebin the result of this: "iw phy0 info"
[00:25] <iNTEl> at all it was about the swap area
[00:26] <iNTEl> its size and sda ?
[00:27] <chuxxsss> hi all
[00:27] <TJ-> bolosaur: Also, the result of this "iw reg get"
[00:27] <Suchorski> how can i change the resolution on text mode?
[00:28] <chuxxsss> anyone having problem connecting to the package servers?
[00:29] <lauratika> nope
[00:29] <TJ-> chuxxsss: which mirror in particular?
[00:29] <Squid_Tamer> Seems to be working for me too.
[00:30] <chuxxsss> I am getting it on all of them. Could be me....
[00:31] <chuxxsss> even getting it on apt-get update
[00:31] <TJ-> name resolution, or connection itself
[00:31] <OerHeks> Suchorski, maybe answer 1 is any help > http://askubuntu.com/questions/18444/how-do-i-increase-console-mode-resolution
[00:32] <chuxxsss> not sure it stops on waiting for header
[00:32] <SteveLim> rustler770: hi
[00:33] <rustler770> howdy
[00:33] <bolosaur> TJ-: ok, "iw phy0 info" and "iw reg get"
[00:33] <bolosaur> in terminal i suppose?
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> chuxxsss, I think you don't understand the server is where the different pkg repos are located look in software sources to change the server you could not have tried everyone.
[00:34] <chuxxsss> Ok thank you wilee-nilee
[00:34] <TJ-> bolosaur: Yes please. If you install or have alrady "pastebinit" you can append "  | pastebinit" to those commands and it'll paste it to the bin itself and you just give me te URL
[00:34] <bolosaur> i dont think ive installed pastebinit
[00:34] <cobble> hey. a while back my pc started freezing. it's pretty old; someone told me it was probably overheating. so I started turning it off @ night and when it's not being used. that seems to help greatly, in fact no problems for maybe 3 weeks. but now I've had a few freezes even after it has been powered off for a while and the text on the screen garbles
[00:34] <cobble> any suggestions?
[00:34] <bolosaur> TJ-: OK the first command printed a whole bunch of stuff
[00:35] <bolosaur> should i look for anything in particular
[00:35] <TJ-> cobble: Blow/suck out any dust/fluff from the fans and heatsinks and hot-air exits
[00:35] <TJ-> bolosaur: paste it for me, It's all of interest
[00:35] <dr_willis> give it a good cleaning cobble  and perhaps a larger fan or 2. its posible its so old/beat up theres a bad solder joint or other loose connections you should be checking
[00:35] <cobble> TJ-, thanks
[00:35] <bolosaur> TJ-: ok
[00:35] <bolosaur> im on a diff computer here
[00:35] <bolosaur> so one sec :P
[00:35] <Jonii> Do you people know if it's possible to reduce the friction between two displays?
[00:36] <TJ-> cobble: I acquired a 2nd user laptop this week... the GPU was almost melting. I opened it and found a 1cm mat of fluff completely blocking the radiator exit vents... now it's cool as a cucumber
[00:36] <cobble> dr_jesus, okay
[00:36] <dr_willis> Jonii:  you mean the little bit of 'stickyness' you have when moving a window across monitors?
[00:36] <Jonii> Moving mouse pointer from one display to another is blocked unless you move the mouse really, really fast
[00:36] <cobble> TJ-, so it really can make a difference then
[00:36] <dr_willis> Jonii:  most likely a ccsm setting for that plugin.
[00:36] <chuxxsss> Maybe time to reinstall
[00:36] <TJ-> cobble: It reduced the temperatures from around 80C to 60C
[00:36] <cobble> it was cleaned a half year ago but, you know, pretty sure it's just as full as it was before lol
[00:36] <cobble> ah
[00:37] <Guest10216> ciao
[00:37] <Guest10216> !list
[00:37] <rustler770> got new hard drive, installed Ubuntu server, want to ru fsck but can't while it's mounted. Can I boot with Ubuntu Live CD and fsck from there?
[00:37] <dr_willis> I used to have 4 Pomerianians.. i had to clean the pcs about once a month.. down to 1 now. ;)
[00:37] <trism> Jonii: System Settings/Displays/Sticky Edges if you aren't using proprietary drivers, ccsm/unity/experimental/launcher captures mouse if you are
[00:37] <dr_willis> rustler770:  yes.. or
[00:37] <dr_willis> !fsck
[00:37] <cobble> dr_willis, haha
[00:37] <cobble> take care dr_willis , TJ, appreciate the advice. will get on it
[00:37] <Leidenfrost> dr_willis: Don't tell me you got rid of your dogs because ubuntu :(
[00:38] <Jonii> trism: ty
[00:38] <dr_willis> wife got rid of most of them.  ;)
[00:38] <dr_willis> we got just the 1 now.
[00:39] <iNTEl> i need some help about the swap area
[00:39] <iNTEl> and the disk setup
[00:39] <iNTEl> its non-solved 4 me
[00:39] <iNTEl> i tried alot of times
[00:40] <iNTEl> but it always failed
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> intel ask you question and don't use the enter key as a punctuation.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl, ^^^^
[00:40] <Jonii> wow, it works just as I wanted
[00:40] <iNTEl> hhhhhhhhhh
[00:41] <bolosaur> TJ-: PM
[00:41] <TJ-> bolosaur: OK
[00:41] <Leidenfrost> How do I change DPI settings in Unity?
[00:41] <Jonii> DPI?
[00:41] <iNTEl> the is in my disk dev/sda1 , dev/sda5 , dev/sda7 , dev/sda6
[00:42] <iNTEl> i wanna make dev/sda6 as a swap area
[00:42] <iNTEl> its 4 GB
[00:42] <Leidenfrost> Jonii: Err. Fonts have a dpi setting that changes the sice of every font on the system.
[00:42] <chuxxsss> I think I'm about to stuff my ubuntu up :<
[00:42] <goddard> is there a free version of Vm Ware for normal desktop users?
[00:42] <dr_willis> You set its file type to be swap in fstab/gparted, then use mkswap on it, then   use the swapon command, and make a fstab entry for the swap parittions.
[00:42] <Leidenfrost> goddard: vmware player
[00:43] <dr_willis> !swap
[00:43] <goddard> swap is also used on laptops for hibernation isn't it
[00:44] <Jonii> I don't think it is
[00:44] <TJ-> goddard: correct
[00:44] <Jonii> It is?
[00:44] <iNTEl> oh i think i got some little wrong information
[00:44] <TJ-> goddard: As long as swap is as big as the installed RAM
[00:44] <Leidenfrost> Jonii: Yes it is.
[00:44] <goddard> I heard you have to make your swap the same size as your memory
[00:44] <goddard> ya
[00:44] <iNTEl> my ram is 2 GB :(
[00:45] <Leidenfrost> goddard: No, just ensure your swap is big enough as your occupied memory. It makes no sense to make a 16gb swap partition if you only use 2
[00:45] <iNTEl> k
[00:45] <morgan> anyone good with truecrypt?
[00:45] <OerHeks> it is all in the swapFAQ
[00:45] <Jonii> morgan, it's better to just ask the question
[00:45] <morgan> oh ty
[00:45] <iNTEl> so tell me the partition type should be btrfs or ext4
[00:46] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, any ideas why midnight commander does this to files, http://imgh.us/geoip.jpg
[00:46] <Leidenfrost> iNTEl: btrfs isn't usable yet.
[00:46] <iNTEl> k
[00:46] <morgan> I need help mounting a hidden truecrypt volume that was created in windows D:
[00:46] <iNTEl> so i should use ext4
[00:46] <Leidenfrost> iNTEl: Or, if you have plenty of ram, xfs. It's a great filesystem.
[00:46] <Jonii> morgan, where is this hidden volume?
[00:47] <Leidenfrost> iNTEl: Unless you want to read your linux partitions in Windows.
[00:47] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you are viewing the contents of a binary file - looks like to me.
[00:47] <morgan> it is on a raid 1 array that I am not even sure is mounted correctly
[00:47] <iNTEl> i have 2 GB ram is it good enough ?
[00:47] <Jonii> You can locate it, or if it's an entire device, such as hdd, you can just select "auto mount devices", then enter the password
[00:47] <morgan> one of the partitions is showing up by default, the other partition on the raid is the hidden volume
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> morgan, If you have the password it should mount.
[00:47] <iNTEl> ya i wanna ubuntu with win
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> morgan, Is it a single file?
[00:48] <iNTEl> right ?
[00:48] <morgan> i have no idea how I set it up, and I think that is the problem D:
[00:48] <Leidenfrost> iNTEl: Not anymore. Better use ext4.
[00:48] <rustler770> it worked
[00:48] <morgan> I thought I just did convert partition to hidden volume in windows
[00:48] <iNTEl> k
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> morgan, So your question is how do I set up truecryprt in ubuntu right?
[00:48] <Jonii> morgan, try auto mount device and enter the password. If that doesn't work, use something like partition magic to figure out the /sdc2 type name of that volume, and enter it, and select "mount"
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> !who | morgan
[00:49] <iNTEl> not i have an ext4 partition its 10.5 GB
[00:49] <iNTEl> k
[00:49] <morgan> ubottu, understood ty :]
[00:49] <iNTEl> mount point "/ "
[00:49] <iNTEl> now the is some kind of secondary window called boot loader
[00:50] <OerHeks> iNTEl, what bootloader does mint use ?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> grub2
[00:50] <iNTEl> ya
[00:50] <Jonii> /dev/sdb2 or something. I think
[00:50] <iNTEl> mint uses now in the installation dev/sda6
[00:51] <blackshirt> is that possible to install linux to uefi based system?
[00:51] <iNTEl> but it not an available choice
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> blackshirt, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=+install+linux+to+uefi+based+system&gbv=1&sei=oZZKUPPWI8OmqQGxs4H4AQ
[00:52] <morgan> Jonii, i cannot find the correct 'partition magic' that you may be referring to D:
[00:52] <iNTEl> i will install at partition /dev/sda7
[00:52] <iNTEl> so should i use it as a boot loader for the installation
[00:52] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[00:53] <blackshirt> sorry willee-nee ...i don't on desktop now
[00:53] <iNTEl> am moved to timezone
[00:53] <iNTEl> i hope its not failed as usual XD
[00:53] <blackshirt> oerheks, thank guys...
[00:54] <iNTEl> can i skip the keyboard procces
[00:54] <iNTEl> cuz its takes  long time to down
[00:55] <iNTEl> is there is someway
[00:55] <iNTEl> can i choose a language already on the cd so i haven't to download a new one ?
[00:55] <morgan> Jonii, when I hit auto-mount it says 'Incorrect password or no TrueCrypt volume found.'
[00:55] <morgan> Jonii, and I'm 100% sure the password is correct
[00:55] <OerHeks> iNTEl, mint has its own problems.
[00:57] <iNTEl> i think it is the same
[00:57] <iNTEl> cuz mint based on ubuntu
[00:57] <iNTEl> it is the same proplem
[00:57] <iNTEl> its in the desk setup
[00:58] <iNTEl> the last procces
[00:58] <iNTEl> called install after the progress bar " copying files " end its start downloading the language packages
[00:58] <iNTEl> when it reach 66%
[00:59] <iNTEl> the is a fatal error
[00:59] <iNTEl> dev/sda/...................
[00:59] <iNTEl> can't remember
[00:59] <iNTEl> its the same proplem
[00:59] <IdleOne> iNTEl: Please don't use the ENTER key so much and if you are running mint please seek help in the mint irc channel
[00:59] <IdleOne> !mint
[01:00] <morgan> I guess I should make sure my raid 1 array is done correctly, anyone wanna help me with that? :D
[01:01] <iNTEl> why all here says mint !
[01:01] <iNTEl> as it not a distribtuion ?
[01:01] <simon_> can't use my nexus tablet as a media device, anyone know how to fix that?
[01:02] <Jonii> morgan, dunno. Try to use partition magic to determine dev address of that partition where that hidden volume is located
[01:03] <Jonii> If you can't find it using partition magic, that's where you're running into problems. It should appear as unallocated or undetermined space on the device in question
[01:04] <morgan> Jonii, how do I install/find partition magic?
[01:05] <Jonii> morgan, ubuntu software center to install, pressing win-key and then typing "partition magic" and enter to launch. That, or pressing the icon on launcher that installing it does
[01:06] <morgan> Jonii, does not come up in search :\
[01:06] <OerHeks> simon_, maybe this page is any help, http://www.nexus7tablethelp.com/2012/07/connect-nexus-7-to-linux-via-mtp-using.html
[01:07] <Jonii> morgan, sorry
[01:07] <Jonii> I meant gparted, I think...
[01:07] <Jonii> partition magic must be a name of some windows partition manager or something
[01:07] <TJ-> Jonii: Yes, I think so too :p
[01:07] <GleasonGrails> Anyone feel like helping a lonely soul with installing Ubuntu on a Mac I just bought
[01:07] <morgan> Jonii, yep! ok installing now
[01:08] <GleasonGrails> I tried following the directions but I just get a flashing cursor
[01:08] <maicod> is there a config file in which I can set an option so that apt-get install <package> never asks the y/n question?
[01:09] <morgan> Jonii, ok I believe the correct volume is in there as /dev/mapper/isw_defgabgbdi_Volume0p2
[01:09] <TJ-> maicod: an option stored in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[01:09] <Jonii> morgan, err, that shouldn't be the case, I think...?
[01:10] <maicod> TJ-: ah thanks
[01:10] <Jonii> it should be of type /dev/sd<LETTER><NUMBER>, like /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb2
[01:10] <TJ-> Jonii: Not when it's using dmraid
[01:10] <Jonii> Oh
[01:10] <Jonii> Then this is out of my league
[01:10] <goddard> When I connect a RGB connector on my laptop I hear a radio station on my stero system that is connected to my headphone jack
[01:10] <TJ-> Jonii: draid devices have a special meta-data label in front and get mounted with strange-looking names like that by dmsetup
[01:10] <daemon> hey all can anyone give me the output of this command ls -la /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[01:10] <TJ-> *dmraid*
[01:11] <morgan> I can see my 3 drives, then the mapper thing, which I believe is the raid 1 thing, correct?
[01:11] <tomreyn> maicod: APT::Get::Assume-Yes in /etc/apt/apt.conf - q.e. man 5 apt.conf
[01:11] <Jonii> Anyway, whatever the name of that partition, plug that into truecrypt, select mount and hope for the best, that's my advice. I don't think I can help further
[01:11] <morgan> Jonii, ok thank you
[01:11] <TJ-> morgan: Yes, that's correct... the traling "p2" is the partition number on that device, if I recall my Promise/dmraid days
[01:11] <maicod> tomaw: thanks !
[01:11] <GleasonGrails> Anyone...
[01:12] <GleasonGrails> have experiance with new macs and installing?
[01:12] <GleasonGrails> not retina
[01:13] <morgan> TJ-, any idea what command I would use? I'm trying, without success: sudo truecrypt --mount-options=system -p=password --filesystem=ntfs-3g /dev/mapper/isw_defgabgbdi_Volume0p2 /tmp
[01:13] <tomreyn> GleasonGrails: what's your real question?
[01:14] <GleasonGrails> tomreyn: Installed rEFIt(sp?) and when I boot I have a DVD in with Xubuntu AMD64. But when it boots I just get a cursor
[01:14] <TJ-> morgan: I've not needed to use truecrypt so I'm little help on that side I'm afraid
[01:14] <Church-> morgan: are you sure about which device to use for mounting?
[01:14] <morgan> Church-, I'm about 85% sure, lol
[01:15] <TJ-> morgan: What does "sudo blkid  /dev/mapper/isw_defgabgbdi_Volume0p2 " report ?
[01:15] <Church-> at least with lvm volumes i needed to use /dev/volumegroupname/logicalvolumename instead of /dev/mapper/volumegroupname-logicalvolumename that shown up in df output, when it was mounted
[01:15] <tomreyn> GleasonGrails: i'm afraid i can't help, never installed on such hardware, but now that you explained the issue, others can help you.
[01:16] <morgan> TJ-,  nothing, it's blank
[01:16] <Church-> morgan: so i wonder if it's not the same type of issue
[01:16] <TJ-> morgan: OK, that's promising... means it can't detect a file-system it knows about
[01:16] <GleasonGrails> CD seems fine on my ubuntu machine
[01:17] <TJ-> Church-: It makes no difference; the entries in /dev/mapper/ and /dev/VG/ are all symlinks to /dev/dm-XX device nodes
[01:17] <knownada> is there a user irc in /etc/passwd by default?
[01:19] <tomreyn> knownada: yes
[01:19] <morgan> it looks like the raid 1 is showing, just not the hidden partition I guess ?
[01:19] <WHAT_DOWN1> is there any way to get back to that network configuration thing from the ubuntu server install *after* the install has completed (12.04)?
[01:19] <knownada> k
[01:19] <tomreyn> knownada: there should be a password set for this user, though
[01:21] <tomreyn> WHAT_DOWN1: which "network configuration thing"?
[01:21] <TJ-> morgan: Is that device mapper name the only one you get for that array?
[01:21] <WHAT_DOWN1> tomreyn: when installing, there's a semi-graphical menu that tries to help you configure your network
[01:22] <GleasonGrails> I used the partitioning tool as well
[01:22] <morgan> TJ-,  no I also get the other partition /dev/mapper/isw_defgabgbdi_Volume0p1 which is already mounted to /media/local disk
[01:22] <morgan> TJ-, which is also from the raid 1 array
[01:24] <TJ-> morgan: OK ... is there any mapper entry that doesn't have a "pX" ending?
[01:24] <tomreyn> WHAT_DOWN1: i think this very menu is only available within the installer. you may want to install something like wicd.
[01:24] <morgan> TJ-,  do you mean the raid 1 array which is just /dev/mapper/isw_defgabgbdi_Volume0
[01:24] <tomreyn> WHAT_DOWN1: but there's not really much network configration, so you could as well just edit the configuration files directly.
[01:25] <WeThePeople> how to exit a sudo -i command
[01:25] <tomreyn> WeThePeople: ctrl-d or "exit"
[01:25] <TJ-> morgan: That's the fella!!! Try this: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/mapper/isw_defgabgbdi_Volume0" and lets find out what the partition table is like
[01:26] <TJ-> morgan: That mapper entry is the entire 'disk' - think like an entire physical disk. So the partition table is in sector 0 of that device node, and we can check it
[01:27] <WHAT_DOWN1> tomreyn: i'm now just trying to figure out why my server isn't even communicating with my router. do you have some set of steps i try to follow to try to figure out what is (not) going on?
[01:27] <morgan> TJ-,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191887/
[01:27] <[snake]> I was using psftp and I said close, and then bye, and now my ssh or sftp isn't working.
[01:28] <[snake]> I can get http though
[01:28] <Church-> WHAT_DOWN1: does ifconfig shows interface state configured with IP & netmask as needed?
[01:28] <TJ-> morgan: so p2 is 1.6TB ... would that match the size you expect for the encrypted partition?
[01:28] <GleasonGrails> Booting from CD in VMware works fin
[01:28] <morgan> TJ-, yes I believe that is the correct truecrypt volume size
[01:29] <tomreyn> WHAT_DOWN1: sure, start with "ip add show" and verify the interfaces are correctly named and have the right ip addresses, gateways and netmasks set
[01:29] <TJ-> morgan: So we've high confidence now that you are dealing with the correct device map
[01:29] <morgan> woot!
[01:29] <TJ-> morgan: Always helps to be sure to save wasting time chasing the wrong tail
[01:29] <morgan> TJ-,  yep yep understandable
[01:30] <WHAT_DOWN1> Church-: it's only showing an ipv6 address even though everything should be ipv4. this should be entirely dhcp (for now) so i put in the two lines "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" into /etc/network/interfaces, but i'm not sure that's working correctly.
[01:30] <TJ-> morgan: I'm reading up on it now!
[01:30] <morgan> TJ-, ok thank you! take your time :]
[01:30] <TJ-> morgan: So, am I understanding correctly... You created this encrypted partition using TrueCrypt on Windows?
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> morgan, I have had problems with partitions from windows to linux, I just use a encrypted file and that works fine.
[01:32] <TJ-> morgan: And secondly, did you configure this as a Hidden Volume?
[01:32] <tomreyn> WHAT_DOWN1: can you still access the server if its nework is down, i.e. do you have it right next to you with a leyboard attached to it?
[01:32] <morgan> TJ-, correct, and yes it is hidden volume
[01:33] <WHAT_DOWN1> tomreyn, Church-: got it working by switching a cable. switching back makes it fail again, so the cable's probably busted.
[01:33] <morgan> and btw, once it is mounted, I'm gonna try to remove the encryption to make it normal partition or w/e
[01:33] <morgan> don't wanna do the truecrypt stuff anymore...
[01:33] <tomreyn> WHAT_DOWN1: cool. dont you have a link indication LED there?
[01:33] <TJ-> morgan: So, if I understand the docs correctly, you've first to mount the outer TrueCrypt volume with one key, then you can get to the inner hidden volume with a second key?
[01:34] <[snake]> I'm sad :< is it possible I got hacked at all?
[01:34] <WHAT_DOWN1> tomreyn: yep. forgot about it :(. my mistake.
[01:34] <morgan> TJ-, i have no idea D: I only have 1 password which I believe was for the 'hidden volume' only
[01:34] <morgan> TJ-, in windows, I would just hit 'auto mount' and then type in the password and it would work...
[01:35] <TJ-> morgan: Ok, no, I didn't read far enough... Truecrypt tries to open the outer volume but if that fails it looks to the location of the inner-volume header and tries that
[01:35] <TJ-> morgan: So I understand how it's laid out now... now to read up on the command usage
[01:36] <tomreyn> [snake]: it's more likely you accidentially misconfigured something.
[01:37] <[snake]> tomreyn, ok, I'll check when I get home for ssh configuration. Maybe I limited how many connections in a day or something???
[01:37] <tomreyn> [snake]: can you ssh Or just netcat or even ping it, still?
[01:37] <TJ-> morgan: I'm dowloading/install it here. I'm going to create a dmraid mirror and encrypt it like yours it, to practice
[01:38] <morgan> TJ-, haha, you're awesome. thank you!!
[01:38] <[snake]> tomreyn, I still get http. Idk how to netcat or ping(ping port 22) on windowz
[01:38] <tomreyn> [snake]: it's unlikely that you accidentially set up rate limiting.
[01:39] <tomreyn> [snake]: oh you're on windows. well you can ping at least then, but if http still works (sorry ou said so) this isn't worth testing.
[01:39] <[snake]> tomreyn, I don't remember doing it haha. but I'm not sure what the issue is.
[01:39] <Blue1> i am trying to recover a blown boot block - simple -- http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/  but it won't let me chroot - using ubuntu 10.04 livecd
[01:40] <tomreyn> [snake]: if you have telnet (client) installed you can try to: telnet <server_IP> 22
[01:40] <[snake]> tomreyn, yeah. http still works I just can't ssh
[01:45] <tomreyn> Blue1: what's the command you are running to chroot and the error message you get in return?
[01:45] <[snake]> tomreyn, My school blocked telnet on this laptop... which is dumb because they gave the laptop to the student and clean it out completely for each student.
[01:45] <agoodm> hi, can anyone indicate to me how linux software raid decides if a device is bad?
[01:46] <[snake]> tomreyn, I will have to do it at home. thanks for helping
[01:46] <[snake]> exit
[01:46] <[snake]> meh... sorry about that
[01:46] <tomreyn> ;-) no worries, and good luck
[01:47] <Blue1> tomreyn: i mountded the device sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt - that works - then sudo chroot /mnt -- error is no such file or command
[01:48] <Jordan_U> Blue1: Please post exact error messages (using hhtp://pastebin.ubuntu.com if it's more than one line). But the problem is probably that you mounted the wrong partition.
[01:48] <agoodm> my reason for asking is that recently two servers in a deployment of several boxes have suffered what I would call failed hard drives; there are many pending sectors yet software raid still remained in a 'good' or healthy state with no dropped drives (until I manually failed the drives)
[01:48] <Blue1> Jordan_U: I can't it is on another system -
[01:48] <tomreyn> Blue1: and youÄRe sure /dev/sda1 is the right partition? and there is just this one partition which contains all of your linux installation?
[01:48] <Blue1> yes
[01:48] <Jordan_U> Blue1: Can you connect to IRC from the machine in question?
[01:49] <tomreyn> Blue1: you may use the web chat at http://webchat.freenode.net
[01:49] <Blue1> Jordan_U: dunno I can try.
[01:50] <morgan> TJ-,  OH SHIT I THINK I GOT IT
[01:51] <morgan> TJ-, i did sudo truecrypt --filesystem=ntfs-3g /dev/mapper/isw_defgabgbdi_Volume0p2 /media
[01:51] <morgan> TJ-,  shit, but everything that was at /media is now gone haha
[01:51] <DracoDanLRPC> whats the channel for ubuntu 12.10?  I can never remember...
[01:52] <ashes> hello. i booted an embedded device from a serial console and ubuntu on a sdcard. i got kernel messages, and a Welcome to Ubuntu, and i have a root shell. what is the name of the ubuntu installer?
[01:52] <ashes> uhm
[01:52] <trism> DracoDanLRPC: #ubuntu+1
[01:53] <ashes> so i can install from console
[01:53] <DracoDanLRPC> thanks
[01:53] <IdleOne> !language
[01:53] <DracoDanLRPC> you know that name makes no sense...
[01:53] <DracoDanLRPC> it should be something like ubuntu-next
[01:54] <TJ-> morgan: you need to specify a sub-directory mount point, otherwise it overlays an existing directory!
[01:56] <tomreyn> ashes: what's the ubuntu on the sdcard?
[01:56] <tomreyn> ashes: is it an installer image?
[01:56] <Blue1> Jordan_U: I have empathy but that doens't seem to let me get to freenode.
[01:57] <guest_> qaq
[01:57] <napster> How to cleanup packages after removing a PPA?
[01:57] <guywithkeyboard> hey I'm having a problem with a bash script... Script is here: http://pastebin.com/GMfQwc4M
[01:57] <guest_> .
[01:57] <guest_> 0.0
[01:57] <tomreyn> napster: reinstall/reactive the PPA and use ppa-purge to remove it
[01:58] <guywithkeyboard> problem is it should (as far as I know) open thunderbird and chrome at once, but it doesn't.. Instead it opens thunderbird, and when I close thunderbird THEN chrome opens
[01:58] <napster> tomreyn: ok
[01:58] <ashes> tomreyn: natty. it's distributed by "trim slice" for this device. they expect me to use the graphical installer, but i have issues with my monitor... i want to do the install from my serial console
[01:58] <Sokel> guywithkeyboard: What you need to understand about bash being in a GUI environment is that things run until they finish.
[01:58] <Sokel> guywithkeyboard: And then the rest of the script will run.
[01:58] <ashes> tomreyn: it's an install image
[01:58] <guywithkeyboard> Sokel: Yeah but the && should launch thunderbird and move onto the next command shouldn't it?
[01:59] <tomreyn> guywithkeyboard: you want to add a blank space and a backslash to the end of the first line
[01:59] <guywithkeyboard> tomreyn: thanks, will try that
[01:59] <Sokel> guywithkeyboard: Better way to do it... nohup thunderbird &
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Blue1: Empathy can do IRC, but I would recommend installing Xchat or using http://webchat.freenode.net from a browser instead.
[02:01] <guywithkeyboard> tomreyn: Ok now the script looks like this: http://pastebin.com/HE1xUjyw and gives me the same results
[02:02] <guywithkeyboard> Sokel: the nohup solution works, thanks!
[02:02] <guywithkeyboard> will man nohup now ;)
[02:02] <blueguy> Jordan_U: hello!
[02:02] <l1t> I know how to create startup scripts. But how do I make a startup script run last out of all the startup scrips...If that makes sense?
[02:02] <l1t> And or how do I make one run first. So the first thing init calls upon is the script in question
[02:02] <Church-> l1t: it probably depends on init system used
[02:03] <l1t> 10.04 sooo system v
[02:03] <l1t> not systemd
[02:03] <blueguy> !pastebin
[02:03] <l1t> Church-: initdaemon I guess right? Not systemd
[02:03] <Church-> in sysv style initscripts it was by numbers that prefixed name of symlink to initscript
[02:03] <ashes> i booted an ubuntu install image and have a serial console with a root shell. what is the command to start the installer?
[02:03] <battlestar> Pro tip #1: run "chattr +i ~/.local/share/Trash/files" to remove the "trash" function and permanently delete things the first time
[02:04] <Church-> 00-99, put bigger number to start later, smaller to start sooner
[02:04] <l1t> Church-: well if I look in rc2.d for instance I see a few with the number 99 appended to their symlinks
[02:04] <l1t> Church-: that what your speaking about?
[02:05] <Church-> l1t: in sysv usually there are initscripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and /etc/rc.d/rc#.d runlevel dirs with simlinks to those initscripts. 87_initscript will be run before 88_initscript
[02:05] <blueguy> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191922/
[02:06] <tomreyn> ashes: i woulld think it would work using the alternate installer. most likely not using the standard ubuntu installer / live cd
[02:06] <Jordan_U> blueguy: You need a 64 bit liveCD to chroot into a 64 bit system.
[02:06] <l1t> Church-: mmk thanks
[02:06] <napster> tomreyn: ppa-purge doesn't remove packages in that PPA :(
[02:06] <Thunderb0lT> Does anybody know whether Teamviewer uses Adobe Flash in Ubuntu while viewing opponent's desktop? if not is there any IRC channel on this matter in freenode network? thanks
[02:07] <tomreyn> napster: without error message?
[02:07] <napster> tomreyn: no : E: Release 'oneiric' for 'postman' was not found
[02:08] <tomreyn> napster: what were you running there?
[02:08] <l1t> Church-: so I just simply change the number? That wont screw aything up? Also to my understanding in ubuntu (for some reason) our run level 2 3 etc. all are multiuser with networking. So would I change the number for each script in each directory rc2.d rc3.d etc...?
[02:08] <napster> tomreyn: I'm linux mint 13
[02:08] <blueguy> Jordan_U: thank you for the sanity check
[02:08] <napster> *I'm on
[02:08] <tomreyn> napster: what's the name of this channel?
[02:09] <napster> ha, kick me
[02:09] <Jordan_U> blueguy: You're welcome.
[02:09] <Church-> l1t: to complete review of sysv initsript style there is also defined default runlevel in /etc/inittab, scripts in runlevel dirs are run with start or stop param depending if link name is prefixed with S or K (short for start or kill). and often there is also rc.local script, that usually is run after everything else, and might contain some commands/scripts to run in addition to those simlinked scripts
[02:09] <Thunderb0lT> Does anybody know whether Teamviewer uses Adobe Flash in Ubuntu while viewing opponent's desktop?
[02:10] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. Got a question. I'm building a system up from ubuntu minimal. Have a couple of configs im trying to figure out: 1) Nautilus without Gnome, or another filemanager that can make ssh connections; 2) sound. alsa is installed, but not getting anything. 3) multiple monitors under openbox
[02:10] <Church-> as to your last question, yes, simply rename that link (or script) with increased number for it to be run later after scripts with lesser numbers
[02:10] <Jordan_U> napster: I hope we don't need to kick you, but this channel is for Ubuntu support only. There is a mint support channel at #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org .
[02:10] <tomreyn> !mint | napster
[02:10] <napster> ty
[02:11] <Thunderb0lT> napster: yo nick reminds me SEan Parker
[02:11] <napster> I would rather install ubuntu tweak instead of heading to another server
[02:11] <econdudeawesome> napster: try /join #linuxmint-help
[02:11] <Church-> l1t: just when changing number think that particular service might depend on other things run before it, so you shouldn't for example decrease number that much, when some dependant stuff hasn't been launched yet
[02:11] <l1t> Church-: nope no inittab here. And rc.local just executes whatever run level im in
[02:12] <napster> Thunderb0lT: I'm just a guy who takes a 'nap' every once in a while ;)
[02:12] <econdudeawesome> wait, I don't think nautilus needs gnome, must have been something else
[02:12] <^moonriver^> good morning
[02:12] <l1t> Church-: ok good point
[02:12] <tomreyn> good evening
[02:12] <l1t> Church-: But this still does not answer if I should change the number for all run levels ubuntu calls multiuser + networking
[02:12] <econdudeawesome> but getting alsa to work right, and getting multiple monitors working right under openbox (I'll google on the last one tho)
[02:13] <howardgrigg> hey guys I'm having issues trying to get Avahi working - has anyone used it?
[02:13] <l1t> Church-: Church- nevermind I guess all I have to worry about is the symlinks in rc2.d right?
[02:13] <Church-> l1t: set for runlevel you are booting to default
[02:13] <l1t> Church-: ok thanks again
[02:13] <^moonriver^> morning here evening there
[02:13] <Church-> if you are usually using rc2.d, yes, change there
[02:13] <Church-> if usually runlevel 2 that is.
[02:16] <ka3ak> anyone rocking ubuntu on a ux32vd here?
[02:21] <econdudeawesome> howdy yall. Im installing from ubuntu minimal. Anyone know how to make sound work? I installed alsa and alsa-base, but sudo lspci | grep audio brings up nothing
[02:21] <Lyxer01> econdudeawesome: weird, you might have to start the daemon
[02:22] <econdudeawesome> Lyxer01: alsa-daemon?
[02:22] <Lyxer01> im not sure
[02:22] <econdudeawesome> Lyxer01: ok
[02:23] <Leidenfrost> This is making me mad. I'm trying to change the firefox language to spanish. However, It just ignores what I specify in language settings, kde control panel and about:config
[02:24] <tomreyn> Leidenfrost: do you have the firefox spanish locale package installed
[02:24] <tomreyn> ?
[02:25] <Leidenfrost> tomreyn: yes.
[02:25] <TJ-> morgan: Any progress?
[02:26] <tomreyn> Leidenfrost: and your users' default locale is?
[02:26] <tomreyn> Leidenfrost: have you restarted firefox since installing the locale package?
[02:26] <Leidenfrost> tomreyn: I guess spanish, looking from the kde locale configuration. And yes, I restarted even the computer.
[02:27] <tomreyn> Leidenfrost: run this in a terminal, and post its output: echo $LANG
[02:27] <Leidenfrost> tomreyn: I was looking into it. en_US.UTF-8
[02:28] <Leidenfrost> I don't remember how to specify LANG in a user-specific way.
[02:28] <tomreyn> Leidenfrost: do you have a firefox extension installed for switching locales by chance?
[02:28] <morgan> TJ-, yeah I think I got it all working now
[02:29] <Leidenfrost> tomreyn: Nope.
[02:29] <morgan> TJ-, how do I change the other partition to mount to another folder?
[02:29] <RawgerNice> wake up lion
[02:29] <tomreyn> Leidenfrost: and firefox menus are currently in english?
[02:29] <morgan> TJ-, nevermind. gonna try to figure out how to remove the encryption now, then gonna just merge the partitions
[02:29] <Leidenfrost> tomreyn: Yes. KDE is in spanish but firefox is in english.
[02:30] <TJ-> morgan: When you mount a file-system, you specify and empty directory to mount at. So create one, e.g. "sudo mkdir /mnt/disk12" and then use "/mnt/disk12" in the mount command
[02:30] <morgan> TJ-, it mounts on it's own, i never mounted it like that D:
[02:31] <tomreyn> Leidenfrost: hmm if you hadn't told me differentl i would noiw assueme you don't actually have the locale package installed.
[02:31] <Sokel> morgan: You need to change /etc/fstab
[02:31] <Leidenfrost> tomreyn: I'm sure I have installed it. Aptitude shows it as installed.
[02:31] <Leidenfrost> brb
[02:31] <tomreyn> Leidenfrost: that's not a proper fix, just a workaround, but you could install the "Quick locale switcher" addon for firefox to make it work for now.
[02:33] <econdudeawesome> nope, still can't get the sound to work
[02:33] <econdudeawesome> ubuntu minimal install
[02:33] <morgan> Sokel, it's not in fstab, that mean I need to add it myself?
[02:34] <Sokel> morgan: Time out, is this a removable drive?
[02:34] <morgan> Sokel, nope it's just a partition that is in a raid 1 array
[02:35] <Sokel> morgan: Then you would add it.
[02:35] <Sokel> morgan: Mount it by uuid.
[02:37] <morgan> Sokel, ok what do I put for options and dump and pass? so far I have: UUID=20E419BFE41997DC /media/stuff/ ntfs
[02:38] <leidenfrost> tomreyn: Thanks, the add-on worked :)
[02:38] <Sokel> morgan: uuid mountpoint ntfs user,defaults 0 0
[02:38] <tomreyn> leidenfrost: and i misread what you posted earlier, you said you have your locale set to english, not spanish
[02:39] <leidenfrost> tomreyn, yes, I'll deal with the locale later.
[02:39] <morgan> Sokel, ok i have no idea what that means lol
[02:39] <tomreyn> leidenfrost: you can set your locale globally on your computer as a default for all users or just for your user.
[02:39] <tomreyn> i think fixing that would fix fixrefox, too
[02:39] <leidenfrost> tomreyn, I don't want that. I'm fine with ubuntu in english. However, my mother needs to have the system in spanish :)
[02:40] <Sokel> morgan: Typical of most ubuntu users. If you just put UUID=20E419BFE41997DC /media/stuff/ ntfs user,defaults 0 0
[02:40] <Sokel> morgan: It's going to mount.
[02:40] <Sokel> morgan: You don't need anything fancy.
[02:40] <leidenfrost> tomreyn, I gtg. I'll deal with that later. Thanks anyway.
[02:40] <morgan> Sokel, ok got it, then I just reboot?
[02:41] <Sokel> morgan: Pretty much. That folder better exist or it's going to halt.
[02:41] <tomreyn> leidenfrost: logged in on your mom's account, do echo 'export LANG=es_ES.UTF-8' >> ~/.bash
[02:41] <morgan> Sokel, ok cool, yep it does!
[02:42] <Sokel> morgan: There you go
[02:42] <morgan> brb gonna reboot
[02:46] <wubino> I have a hardrive that holds my main file system
[02:46] <WeThePeople> and
[02:46] <wubino> It works but I cannot boot from it
[02:46] <md_5> gargl, ubuntu update broke java, again!
[02:46] <wubino> Its spins reads writes blinks will not boot from it
[02:46] <wubino> use a different disk and its boots
[02:46] <scarecrow> is grub installed on that drive?
[02:47] <wubino> IDK,
[02:47] <scarecrow> sometimes when installing from USB it installs grub onto the wrong drive
[02:47] <wubino> so how do I get grub on that drive?
[02:48] <wubino> I would erase and start over but it has windows in a hibernate state right now and really do not want to mess with it
[02:49] <morgan> Sokel, hmmmmm. something is broken. the old mount is still showing up (the one I did not do) but the new mount that we did in fstab is there
[02:49] <qcjn> hi, i have a "homework" making a service start up script. But in college we fedora 15. Since at home i'm using Ubuntu, i thought of making it on ubuntu. But it seems that there is a lot of difference. from syslog to rsyslog. no chkconfig on ubuntu. functions are not at  /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions. and are the functions the same ? And maybe there's other thing i haven't seen. ???
[02:50] <scarecrow> http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm
[02:50] <morgan> Sokel, I can go into /media/stuff and it's there, but the drive shows up under 'devices' as 'stuff' and when I click that it says 'unable to mount stuff'
[02:50] <morgan> Sokel, 'mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.'
[02:52] <Guest13204> hello
[02:52] <Sokel> morgan: Typical ubuntu behavior. The question is, does your fstab even contain information about your NTFS? It should, otherwise it wouldn't be automounting in the first place.
[02:52] <scarecrow> try using CentOS
[02:53] <Guest13204> i got a wierd boting  issue in ubuntu 12.04..... can anyone  try to help?
[02:53] <morgan> Sokel, I don't see that UUID in fstab except for what we just added
[02:53] <achandra> drussell, ping
[02:53] <Sokel> morgan: I'm talking about whereever it's mounting to.
[02:53] <Sokel> scarecrow: Centos and Rhel is SO much easier to handle.
[02:53] <morgan> Sokel, ok you lost me there
[02:54] <Sokel> scarecrow: Someone who doesn't know linux can take two courses at a community college for red hat and get a certification when they take the hands-on exam it's that simple.
[02:54] <Guest13204> yawns.....
[02:54] <Sokel> Guest13204
[02:54] <Sokel> !help
[02:54] <Guest13204> yes
[02:54] <Sokel> morgan: Go to dpaste or some sort of pastebin and put in what your /etc/fstab contains.
[02:55] <kevin_> need help - trying to both my displays working ..one monitor is larger than the other, the only configuration that seems to work is 'mirror' ...I want to extend my monitor :-/
[02:55] <scarecrow> esiest way to fix grub if you are unfamiliar with the console is to re-install.  just "choose something else" when it asks how you want to install. re-use the big partition as "/" and the small one as swap. make sure grub is installed onto the right drive (if USB is sda and hard drive is sdb install on sdb. if hdd is sda and usb is sdb, install grub to sda)
[02:55] <morgan> Sokel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191976/
[02:56] <kevin_> need help - trying to both my displays working ..one monitor is larger than the other, the only configuration that seems to work is 'mirror' ...I want to extend my monitor :-/  - here is the errors that I see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191979/
[02:56] <apeshaith> so, I'm in the middle of an installation, and the progress bar is very close to the end, but there seems to be a problem; it's been stuck at same part for an hour now.
[02:56] <Guest13204> i have a issue  --- my ubuntu loading screen  turns white ---- after grub selection ---- but everything else is good - also  when i log off the ubuntu screen turns white ..lol --- and i tryed upgrade  nvidia   drivers  both that were avaliable - and  didnt fix it -----
[02:57] <Sokel> Guest13204: I wouldn't worry about it if you can use your system.
[02:57] <Guest13204> yeah all works in system   --- no biggie  im just  picky i guess lol
[03:01] <Sokel> morgan: I cannot reproduce what's happening to you. I don't know where ubuntu magically places these mounts without fstab, unless it's a unity function.
[03:03] <Guest13204> i dont see ruby in ubuntu software center ---  guess it was mandriva i saw ruby in .....;(
[03:03] <tucemiux> how do I disable compiz or is it now "conveniently" integrated to ubuntu?
[03:03] <Sokel> tucemiux: Typical ubuntu behavior :). Gconf-editor.
[03:03] <worm> Does anyone know how to configure my fingerprint scanner? I want to scan my fingerprint instead of typing my password.
[03:04] <Sokel> Guest13204: lol... apt-get install ruby-full build-essential
[03:04] <tucemiux> Sokel, ubuntu now has "system settings" which bork my keyboard settings after every upgrade
[03:05] <Sokel> tucemiux: Are you using their standard stuff? Have you tried kubuntu or xubuntu and have gotten the same effects?
[03:05] <tucemiux> Sokel, ive tried kubuntu - its worst than ubuntu with that kde, xubuntu is too weak
[03:06] <Sokel> tucemiux: <opinion> xfce/lxde is far better than unity, much more clean and robust for my daily work :) </opinion> KDE is better than unity anyway.
[03:06] <worm> tucemiux: But actually xubuntu is not weak. And how about Gnome 3?
[03:07] <morgan> xubuntu was horrible for me
[03:07] <Sokel> worm: You should know canonical hates gnome 3.
[03:07] <tucemiux> i guess what youre saying ubuntu is no longer fixable? o.O
[03:07] <Sokel> worm: Why do you think there's such a shotty implementation of it. They stopped caring about it a long time ago.
[03:07] <morgan> but I think it was the xftce thing and not ubuntu
[03:08] <Nautilus__> is Brasero (in 10.04) any good or is it junk?
[03:08] <Sokel> And to be fairly honest, upgrades and updates wouldn't break things if they learned to stop moving configuration files and the way things work in the first place.
[03:08] <morgan> I had serious gfx/vsync issues when I tried xubuntu, installed ubuntu 12.04 and now my video is flawless
[03:09] <Sokel> morgan: Never had issues like that no matter what environment. I just hate the 'stupid/smart phone' look of unity. That's my only problem.
[03:10] <tucemiux_> I have to use classic ( no effects ) but even without effects ubuntu did not look this horrible, I'm feeling tempted to send a screen shot of my desktop
[03:10] <worm> Nautilus__: In my opinion, k3b is better than Brasero, because Brasero had wrecked a lot of discs...
[03:10] <tucemiux_> k3b is overkill for anything, problem is brasero keeps breaking after the updates and forces you to use k3b
[03:11] <Nautilus__> worm: thanks, thats what I was wondering
[03:14]  * d0ja loves mint linux
[03:14] <worm> And why those programmers let the unity panel always appear? In 11.04 it will autohide when a window move towards it.
[03:14] <Guest0000> once i update my motherboard i probably  rid the white  screen   where the ubuntu  loading is :)
[03:15] <Guest0000> desktop works good with full working unity
[03:15] <Guest0000> strange :p
[03:19] <worm> Does anyone know how to use my fingerprint instead of my password to unlock and login to my ubuntu?
[03:21] <Cell> is it possible to get the list of programs I have installed in Ubuntu so I can reinstall them after a new installation?
[03:22] <worm> Cell, check /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:22] <Adie> http://eggsonbread.com/2010/01/28/move-ubuntu-to-another-computer-in-3-simple-steps/
[03:23] <Cell> thanks
[03:23] <Adie> see step 1
[03:23] <Adie> ^_^
[03:24] <Cell> great link adie, thanks
[03:24] <Cell> thats so easy it's... mind blowing
[03:24]  * Adie hugs
[03:24] <worm> But it seems like you need to download those packages again on your new computer.
[03:25] <worm> If you are following the link's directions.
[03:25] <Adie> worm, that's step 3
[03:25] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. How can I set up wireless with openbox?
[03:25] <Cell> worm: yeah I was planning on redownloading them, too risky to try manually moving stuff over
[03:28] <md_5> 12.10 has made window titles very fat: http://screencloud.net/v/frtp
[03:28] <worm> Cell, is that necessary? Those are all the same files. All of your packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives.
[03:28] <worm> But as you like.
[03:29] <worm> 12.10 is released?!
[03:29] <econdudeawesome> worm: beta
[03:29] <econdudeawesome> any advice for how to set up automated wifi with openbox
[03:29] <econdudeawesome> ?
[03:30] <Cell> worm: This was my first Ubuntu installation, and I started with 11.10, then upgraded to 12.04, and im going to reinstall with 12.04.1, so it's risk to do it manually IMO
[03:30] <md_5> Fontconfig is broken
[03:30]  * md_5 googles how to fix
[03:31] <nyRednek> worm: well, not always...some of us run apt-get clean between batches of installs
[03:31] <WeThePeople> autoclean too
[03:32] <md_5> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-unfonts-core/+bug/1034928
[03:32] <nyRednek> WeThePeople: autoclean just removes older versions of the packages you have in your cache
[03:32] <worm> That's right... And I am actually doing "apt-get build-dep sth && apt-get source sth" instead of apt-get install now.
[03:33] <worm> And who added that ".1" at the end of this ubuntu's version? Why? Huge bug?
[03:33] <Cell> also if I might ask.. assuming I want to set up 100 GB to my ubuntu installation and have /home seperate from the / mount point, what is a good figure for how much space to allocate to each?
[03:34] <nyRednek> Cell: i've never filled a 40 gig /
[03:34] <nyRednek> Cell: i devote most space to /home
[03:35] <Cell> I allocated 40 gig to this setup actually, thinking it would be more than enough
[03:35] <worm> Cell, it depends what you want to do with your computer. If you want to use it as a http file server, you'll need a huge /
[03:35] <Cell> and somehow I've fillled almost 50% of it
[03:35] <Cell> so I'm thinking next time to do 100 gigs
[03:35] <worm> And also it can be changed easily by using gparted.
[03:35] <Cell> how much space does the OS need? not more than 1 gig right?
[03:36] <Cell> I could put 5 gigs to /, and the rest to /home
[03:36] <worm> No. At least 3GiB
[03:36] <Cell> oh wow
[03:36] <Cell> is 10 gig for / overkill?
[03:36] <nyRednek> worm: well, i'd make a specific /var/lib/httpd(iirc) partition if i were running a http server
[03:36] <Cell> I want it to be futureproof so I dont have to mess arond with partitions for future upgrades
[03:36] <zhangjiantao> where is the crash dump file on ubuntu default?
 And also it can be changed easily by using gparted.
[03:37] <md_5> Last night it took hours to resize + move my partitions to make space for upgrade
[03:37] <md_5> moving is really slow
[03:37] <nyRednek> partman is quicker than parted
[03:40] <Church-> Cell: if you use lvm, then you can also make initially smaller filesystems, and later on add unallocated diskspace on need to basis and grow filesystems online
[03:41] <WeThePeople> nyrednek, is partman have any more letters in it
[03:41] <WeThePeople> does**
[03:41] <Blue1> Jordan_U: thanks - works like a champ!
[03:42] <nyRednek> WeThePeople: not sure it's an ubuntu tool...used it from debian installer cd
[03:43] <WeThePeople> nyrednek, not in the soft center!
[03:45] <Khardin> hello, wondering if anyone is experienced setting up HDMI audio on nvidia GPU, tried several guides with no success
[03:45] <Nautilus__> I installed k3b but don't see it in the menus (10.04) ... how do I get it there?
[03:45] <tester> tst
[03:46] <Blue1> Nautilus__: try an alt+f2 then k3b
[03:47] <Blue1> oh don't know if that works on ub untu 12.xx though
[03:47] <Nautilus__> Blue1: can I put it in the menu so I dont have to remember secret key commands?
[03:48] <B0g4r7_> I have hdmi audio working with nvidia Ion.  I didn't have to do anything special.
[03:48] <Blue1> Nautilus__: it should be there, or you can just add a launcher to the desktop
[03:48] <B0g4r7_> Make sure your HDMI cable supports audio.
[03:48] <Khardin> running ubuntu 12.04.1 and having trouble with HDMI audio, nvidia nforce 630i/7100 GPU, identifies card, lets me select it, but no audio plays. Using proprietary driver nvidia-current
[03:48] <j4rg0n> Hi there I have a VERY old toshiba laptop like win95 old lol I'm trying to install ubuntu or even DSLinux on it but it's so old it wont read newer flash drives and the CD drive is shot in it anyone have any ideas oh and cannot connect to internet other than dial up....its that old lol
[03:48] <Khardin> cable is v1.4, audio works in windows
[03:48] <Blue1> Nautilus__: I am using ubuntu 10.04 and debian -- so I don't know how 12.04 works -
[03:49] <Nautilus__> dlue: double checked the menu, no luck.  Dnt want it on the desktop
[03:49] <Nautilus__> Blue1: ^
[03:49] <B0g4r7_> I just open the Sound control panel thing and choose HDMI output in the devices thing.
[03:49] <Nautilus__> Blue1: I'm on 10.04
[03:50] <Blue1> Nautilus__: well have to tried doing a which k3b     and see what it says?
[03:50] <Khardin> yeah, i can select it, but no sound plays, tried speaker-test on all hw channels with no luck, updated alsa, modified /etc/pulse/default.pa to include hdmi output, still no luck
[03:51] <Nautilus__> Blue1: OK the executable is in /usr/bin
[03:52] <Blue1> Nautilus__: okay you may not have it enaled in the menus - priv message ok?
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> !sound
[03:52] <Nautilus__> Blue1: sure, i appreciate the help!
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> Khardin, ^^^
[03:53] <Khardin> thanks, i will check them out
[03:54] <robertr> Hi trying to get games to work with my dualshock3  joypad is a living hell. I can't seem to get anything to work as expected
[03:54] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. still having trouble setting up wireless. How do I check to see if a driver is installed?
[03:55] <j4rg0n> Hi there I have a VERY old toshiba laptop like win95 old lol I'm trying to install ubuntu or even DSLinux on it but it's so old it wont read newer flash drives and the CD drive is shot in it anyone have any ideas oh and cannot connect to internet other than dial up....its that old lol
[03:56] <econdudeawesome> j4rg0n -- does it have an A: drive?
[03:56] <econdudeawesome> j4rg0n: rather, a floppy drive :D
[03:56] <Khardin> @ j4rg0n - do you have access to a usb cd drive/desktop cd drive
[03:59] <webguy024> hello. I am having a problem with user permissions, but I don't quite understand them yet. Installed git on 12.04, trying to run 'git pull' from a php script (github hook). It returns no output, and I can't find an error. other commands work and git pull works in the terminal.
[03:59] <webguy024> running nginx and it says it defaults to www-data, don't think that user has access to git, how do I give him access?
[04:01] <Xeus_> how do I clear the sticky bits on this? drwsrwsrwx
[04:01] <Xeus_> driving me mad
[04:03] <webguy024> ok I was wrong about the problem - it is actually because www-data does not have an public key. can I make a public key accessible to all users?
[04:04] <Borreguito>  /msg nickserv identify xplplmxlr311
[04:04] <Xeus_> found it
[04:04] <webguy024> lol
[04:04] <Xeus_> chmod ug-s directory
[04:04] <Xeus_> lmfao
[04:04] <Xeus_> time to change your password REAL FAST
[04:04] <OerHeks> Borreguito, change password time
[04:05] <Borreguito> WHow change it?
[04:05] <Xeus_> ./msg nickserv help
[04:06] <Xeus_> ./msg nickserv setpass help
[04:06] <webguy024> nickserv set pasword
[04:07] <Xeus_> err /msg nickserv help setpass
[04:07] <Xeus_> something like that
[04:07] <webguy024> anyway to give an ssh key to www-data?
[04:07] <OerHeks> no no /msg NickServ SET PASSWORD mynewpassword
[04:08] <OerHeks> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[04:08] <webguy024> u don't need the msg part
[04:08] <Xeus_> webguy024: create a folder for www-data in /home and put the key in the .ssh folder
[04:08] <voldyman> hey guys where can i find documntation for python-gmenu
[04:08] <Xeus_> webguy024: hahaha
[04:08] <webguy024> ok thanks
[04:08] <j4rg0n> econ: no it does not thats lol
[04:09] <dez82> can anybody help me with the Ubuntu 1 music app?
[04:09] <dez82> I'm confused
[04:10] <darkpark> Hello everybody, would anybody mind helping me with a headphone issue? (Ubuntu 12.04, Macbook 5,2)
[04:11] <WeThePeople> darkpark, type alsamixer in terminal an unmute headphone
[04:11] <dez82> I installed U1 music on my iphone, and am a premium subscriber on U1 Music. I synced my music folder with Ubuntu 1, but it wont populate my U1 music app on iphone
[04:12] <dez82> does anybody know why this would be?
[04:12] <Borreguito> nickserv set password oldpassword  newpassword
[04:12] <darkpark> WeThePeople I have alsamixer open right now and Headphone is not muted
[04:13] <darkpark> I checked my alsamixer settings earlier too, alter googling for a solution
[04:13] <Borreguito> successfull.....
[04:13] <pepperjack> darkpark: we'll assume it isnt plugged into the mic port :)
[04:13] <darkpark> pepperjack: el oh el, if only it was that simple haha
[04:14] <WeThePeople> lol
[04:14] <md_5> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3MqW1Ir9uug/UEpJP_Sb0nI/AAAAAAAAEgE/cqisWI4x6pY/s560/linux.jpg
[04:15] <dez82> lololol!!!! :-()
[04:16] <WeThePeople> thats a funny one
[04:16] <voldyman> md_5, +
[04:17] <Borreguito> recently it has been deleted a partition with MAC OS installer. can testdisk to recover my deleted partition marked as deleted
[04:17] <sunilrk> hi all
[04:18] <Borreguito> hi
[04:18] <sunilrk> hi borreguito
[04:18] <Borreguito> where're  you from?
[04:18] <sunilrk> I am from india
[04:19] <sunilrk> you are from?
[04:19] <Borreguito> i am from Mexico.
[04:19] <sunilrk> cool.Nice to meet you friend
[04:20] <Borreguito> me too.
[04:20] <sunilrk> what do u do borreguito?
[04:21] <Borreguito> i fine.... trying to recover a deleted partition
[04:21] <sunilrk> ok
[04:22] <Borreguito> my english is not good.. but if i can help you!!
[04:24] <sunilrk> hi
[04:27] <running_rabbit07> need help with apt-add. What would be the apt-add syntax for adding this PPA https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ ?
[04:28] <sunilrk> hi borreg
[04:28] <Borreguito> hi
[04:30] <leslie_> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a tower that I have put together.  I boot fine, and all seems to be ok up to the point of connecting to the internet.  The wireless router tells me that I am connected, but firefox will not connect to any address, I don't know what I am doing wrong
[04:30] <hfic> leslie_, Just because your connected to the router doesn't mean you have internet connection.
[04:31] <sunilrk> is dhcp enabled in your router leslie
[04:33] <someHUMON> hi
[04:33] <leslie_> hfic, I know but I have this computer connected and the wifes also, all are wireless I cannot seem to find out where I am dropping the ball.  All the puters are in the same location
[04:34] <subcool> ubuntu - u really know how to FSU.
[04:35] <leslie_> hfic, all are connected thru the same router
[04:35] <subcool> Start fails:
[04:35] <subcool> com.aelitis.azureus.core.AzureusCoreException: Azureus core already instantiated
[04:36] <subcool> someone pelase tell me why this keeps failing?
[04:36] <subcool> upgrading to 12.04.1 has BEEN A NIGHTMARE
[04:36] <subcool> NOTHING works..
[04:36] <subcool> i feel like i just instaled windows.
[04:36] <subcool> Ubuntu's version of Win ME!
[04:36] <bazhang> subcool, file a bug
[04:37] <subcool> HA!
[04:37] <subcool> i have filed sooo many bugs..
[04:37] <gogeta> subcool: why not use transmission
[04:37] <subcool> KDE has blocked me from being ABLE to file anymore bugs
[04:37] <bazhang> this is not the complaints department subcool use a different client or file a bug
[04:37] <gogeta> subcool: it has the same features
[04:39] <subcool> its my complain department. THEIR complaint department is a empty trashcan barrel with a multcher
[04:39] <bazhang> subcool, no it's not. please desist
[04:39] <subcool> then tell me why Azureus died...
[04:39] <subcool> Start fails:
[04:39] <subcool> com.aelitis.azureus.core.AzureusCoreException: Azureus core already instantiated
[04:40] <subcool> i upgrade, and it died. ALong with my wine, open office, Microsoft office, and well EVERYTHIng i need, when i need it.
[04:40] <Sokel> subcool: That's why you don't upgrade. DO a clean install.
[04:40] <subcool> Sokel, yea, i know.
[04:40] <gogeta> subcool: becouse its Java
[04:41] <gogeta> subcool: you will have to install the real Java not openjdk
[04:42] <Sokel> subcool: That's why I have a script to do my 'upgrades'. It does all of the 'restores' after a clean install.
[04:42] <subcool> and whats that?
[04:42] <subcool> i remember running across some kinda backup- that did the same, when i left mandriva for the SAME reason
[04:43] <Sokel> subcool: I build my own scripts.
[04:43] <subcool> Something doesnt work, people say upgrade to LTS. I upgrade.. and EVERYTHING goes to hell.
[04:43] <subcool> oh- :/
[04:43] <Sokel> subcool: NEVER upgrade. Clean installs only.
[04:43] <subcool> there use to be something in the old stock apt-get backup or something
[04:43] <gogeta> subcool: its probly a openjdk issue like I said
[04:43] <subcool> Sokel, yea, i know- i was taught that. But everyone says NOW adays they fixed everything.
[04:44] <subcool> gogeta, thanks... ill uninstall and reinstall java like everything else..
[04:44]  * Cell frowns at gogeta
[04:44] <gogeta> subcool: the real one
[04:44] <gogeta> lol
[04:44]  * Cell summons Omega Shenron
[04:44] <subcool> ... now u got me guessing..
[04:44] <bazhang> Cell, stop that
[04:45] <Cell> oh shit its bz
[04:45] <bazhang> Cell, no cursing here
[04:45] <gogeta> subcool: or used transmissions like I said
[04:45] <gogeta> use
[04:45] <WeThePeople> hi
[04:45] <Cell> y0
[04:45] <subcool> whats transmissions?
[04:45] <bazhang> Cell, no cursing here, remain ontopic
[04:46] <gogeta> transmission bittorrent
[04:46] <bazhang> subcool, a torrent client: transmission
[04:46] <Cell> it comes with ubuntu
[04:46] <subcool> oh-
[04:46] <subcool> i like vuze and utorrent
[04:46] <DeathKnight> question regarding xubuntu is allowed??
[04:46] <leslie_> Should I reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 and try to access the router again  I have 2 wireless access points and both work on 2 other puters in this location but I cannot get any further than the router connection, if q
[04:47] <bazhang> DeathKnight, sure
[04:47] <subcool> vuze is a process killer, but- i like the info.
[04:47] <leslie_> anyone has any Ideas I would really appreciate the help
[04:47] <gogeta> subcool: same features cryptograms blacklist etc
[04:47] <DeathKnight> its about xubuntu theme. i have tried to install different themes, everythng works fine except for the title bar, it stays that of greybird.
[04:47] <subcool> yea, crypto-
[04:47] <gogeta> lol dam auto compleate
[04:47] <subcool> ok.. ill give it a try
[04:49] <subcool> gogeta, you said not jdk- so what would i use..?
[04:49] <gogeta> subcool: not openjdk
[04:50] <gogeta> subcool: you can download the closed Java fun orcal
[04:51] <gogeta> subcool: just seems to me vise is having a issue with openjdk
[04:52] <subcool> im working on it- sorry..
[04:52] <subcool> i tend to data-dump bs i dont like to do
[04:52] <subcool> fixing a upgrade is one of them.
[04:52] <subcool> i just like my machine to work- no maintenece
[04:52] <subcool> i got transmission
[04:53] <gogeta> subcool: old Ubuntu didn't use openjdk by default
[04:54] <Nautilus__> k3b tells me it's burning an ISO9660 filesystem, but Brasero showed me a warning that I think meant I had too many directory levels for ISO9660.  That seems odd, since k3b seems GREAT so far.  Anyone with feedback?
[04:54] <subcool> gogeta, i dont remember.. i use to have issues with java,- then lead to something that just worked
[04:55] <gogeta> Nautilus__: insert CD if it works
[04:55] <subcool> i got tired of troublshooting computers a long time ago- espeically since they are fully remade every 2-3 years.
[04:55] <subcool> same language, same everything- BUt NEw
[04:55] <caffine> Nautilus__:  it's been a while, but i think k3b doesn't complain until you click "burn"
[04:55] <Nautilus__> already burned it, no warning
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (on older ati card), nomodeset fixes it, but compiz is unworkable
[04:56] <goddard> what is the intel debugger called?
[04:56] <caffine> interesting. i'd expect them to use the same stuff under the covers. no idea why one is complaining and the other isn't.
[04:56] <Nautilus__> lotuspsychje: sounds like a bad driver
[04:57] <subcool> ah- oracle only supports RPM?
[04:57] <Nautilus__> caffine: yep, that's why I came to ask
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Nautilus__:im using radeon
[04:57] <Nautilus__> lotuspsychje: sounds like a bad driver
[04:57] <caffine> Nautilus__: sorry i'm not any more help.  :)
[04:57] <gogeta> Nautilus__: I wouldn't worry unless the CD doesn't work
[04:57] <Nautilus__> caffine: s'ok!
[04:57] <bazhang> !java | subcool have a read
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Nautilus__:so what are you sugesting?
[04:58] <Nautilus__> gogeta: it's a DVD.  Oh wait, maybe DVD's handle the directory level and Brasero was throwing the warning in error?
[04:58] <morgan> I can't add sublime text to launcher :(
[04:58] <Nautilus__> lotuspsychje: nothing in particular, just sayin what the problem is
[04:59] <Nautilus__> lotuspsychje: my "best guess" at the problem anyways, as someone that's written mouse drivers.
[04:59] <subcool> im taking a break from this- THanks.. illl be back maybe tmo.
[04:59] <gogeta> Nautilus__: DVD'S can handle more. because of Joliet
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Nautilus__:you think its a mouse driver problem no grafix card driver?
[05:00] <Nautilus__> gogeta: gotcha. So perhaps it was a wrongful error in Brasero.  Thanks. That pretty much closes that Q
[05:00] <gogeta> Nautilus__: it sounds like a legacy warning
[05:01] <Nautilus__> gogeta: yea
[05:01] <Flaffen> hi
[05:01] <Flaffen> anyone here?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen: just ask your question mate
[05:02] <Nautilus__> lotuspsychje: not really, I would assume mouse support is native, unless perhaps you installed something special?  Otherwise I'd say the display driver isn't doing the blit's correctly.
[05:02] <Flaffen> ok, i've been installling a bunch of drivers and whatnot, still cant get Opengl or glx to friggin work
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Nautilus__: oh so i could try another ati driver your guess?
[05:02] <Flaffen> tried the 173. ones, the current, the bumblebee drivers.
[05:02] <Nautilus__> lotuspsychje: sounds like the first thing to try, good luck :)
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen: ati or nvidia?
[05:03] <gogeta> Flaffen: what video card
[05:03] <Flaffen> nvidia optimus
[05:03] <Flaffen> laptop thing, m540 (or 540m)
[05:03] <h22turbo> which nvidia driver should I use? nvidia-current? nvidia-current-updates? or install the latest driver from nvidia.com? I have integrated GeForce 6150 LE
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen: did you install nvidia-current?
[05:03] <Flaffen> yep
[05:04] <gogeta> Flaffen: that card sounds pretty old you might need to legacy drivers
[05:04] <Flaffen> should i get rid of everything but current?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen: did you try unity2d to run properly?
[05:05] <Flaffen> old? i think its kinda new, i hvent really had this comp tha tlong
[05:05] <Flaffen> that is?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen: default is unity3d with effects, you could try unity2d to test
[05:05] <gogeta> Flaffen: it a gtx?
[05:05] <Flaffen> sec
[05:05] <Divine_E> Hey guys, quick question that hopefully has a quick easy solution.  I had set up my install to automatically mount a partition /sda3 using the program Storage Device Manager.  After deciding I no longer needed Windows 7 or the other partition, i deleted them to make more room for my Ubuntu partition.  Now when I boot into Ubuntu, it gives an error saying sda3 can't be mounted, and I have to press S to skip.  This is mildly annoying.  I
[05:05] <Divine_E> s there a way to get it to stop trying to mount sda3?
[05:06] <h22turbo> should I install nvidia-current-updates or nvidia.com latest driver? I'm using integrated GeForce 6150 LE graphics...
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | Divine_E
[05:06] <Flaffen> Graphics
[05:06] <Flaffen> NVIDIA GeForce GT540M (Optimus)
[05:06] <Flaffen>  
[05:07] <gogeta> Divine_E: you need to remove the line from database
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E: if the drive still works, it should automount, unless its a ntfs partition
[05:07] <gogeta> Divine_E: fatab
[05:07] <gogeta> fstab
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current | h22turbo
[05:08] <gogeta> sorry I keep getting auto corrected
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> gogeta:lol on wich client is that
[05:08] <nyRednek> !ping
[05:08] <h22turbo> !info nvidia-current-updates | h22turbo
[05:08] <gogeta> lotuspsychje: yassic
[05:08] <Flaffen> glxinfo | grep rendering
[05:08] <Flaffen> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[05:09] <Flaffen> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[05:09] <nyRednek> good, was thinking the replacement libc may have screwed things up
[05:09] <Flaffen> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[05:09] <FloodBot1> Flaffen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:09] <Divine_E> So, fstab is a file I am guessing.  Where would one locate said file.
[05:09] <h22turbo> lotuspsychje>> yea, i already knew that... but which one is better? nvidia-current? nvidia-current-updates? or the nvidia.com's driver?
[05:10] <gogeta> Divine_E: sda3
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> h22turbo: best thing is to install nvidia-current, see if it works
[05:10] <h22turbo> errr i know it works
[05:10] <h22turbo> but which will run games and stuff better?
[05:10] <h22turbo> i play quake live and enemy territory
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> h22turbo:why messing around with other drivers if it all works?
[05:10] <morgan> is there an app or easy way to unrar a folder that has 30 folders with 30 tv episodes etc?
[05:10] <gogeta> Divine_E:in / etc you need su. and anteaters editor
[05:11] <h22turbo> trying to figure out which one works better.... better performance, more FPS, etc etc
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !info rar | morgan
[05:11] <gogeta> text
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> h22turbo: do you not have the performance you want to have?
[05:11] <morgan> i'm looking for automation basically...
[05:12] <h22turbo> lotuspsychje>> dude, ur no help... just forget it
[05:12] <h22turbo> anybody else?
[05:12] <gogeta> Divine_E: be careful with that don't remove a line you need you can break your system
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !poll h22turbo
[05:12] <morgan> i'd like to be able to just right click a folder for example and hit search for archives etc? windows has it in 'Extract Now' app
[05:12] <Divine_E> Where could one get anteaters editor?  It doesn't seem to appear on the Ubuntu Software center.
[05:12] <gogeta> Divine_E: a backup would be a good idea
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> morgan: install rar and it will add it to nautilus
[05:13] <gogeta> Divine_E: divines text editor
[05:13] <Flaffen> and i'm back, tried restarting x, did not do much
[05:13] <gogeta> Divine_E: text editor
[05:14] <morgan> lotuspsychje, I have rar installed, what is nautilus I don't see that in soft center
[05:14] <Adie_> Hello!~
[05:14] <Divine_E> Oh.  Okay then.
[05:14] <Adie_> I updated my distor, and I think ubuntu broke in half :|
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> morgan:nautilus is default file browser
[05:14] <Flaffen> lotuspsychje: got any ideas?
[05:14] <Adie_> I seem to be lacking a window manager: http://i.imgur.com/tXCGT.jpg
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Adie_:maybe a clean install can help?
[05:14] <Adie_> :/
[05:14] <Adie_> yeah, that would 100% help
[05:15] <Adie_> but I don't wana D:
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Adie_:its higly recommended to clean install 12.0.1
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> 12.04.1 sorry
[05:15] <Flaffen> adie: terminal -> sudo apt-get install nautilus ?
[05:15] <Adie_> I didn't install 12.04
[05:15] <Adie_> I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10
[05:16] <Divine_E> Would I just remove this line?:  /dev/sda3                                  /media/sda3  ntfs
[05:16] <gogeta> Adie_: alpha fun
[05:17] <Adie_> :<
[05:17] <Adie_> all I did was update-manager -d
[05:17] <Adie_> and click yes
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E: you think the drive is broken?
[05:17] <Adie_> ><
[05:17] <gogeta> Divine_E: yep that's sda3
[05:17] <Divine_E> The drive doesn't exist anymore.  I erased the partition and expanded my Ubuntu partition.
[05:18] <Divine_E> Alright.  I'll remove that line of text, and hopefully all goes well.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E: ok then do what gogeta says :p
[05:18] <Adie_> how do I open the terminal?
[05:18] <gogeta> lotuspsychje: no he remove that partition he's removing it from auto mount
[05:18] <chuxxsss> still having problems using APT-Get.... Been searching the web no joy.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> chuxxsss:what about describe your problem mate
[05:19] <Divine_E> Um, guys...  It's been a bit since I've had to mess with my system...  How would I open said file with root access again?
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Adie_:you should also focus on the problem u have on 12.10
[05:19] <Adie_> I don't know how to open the terminal :x
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E: open terminal and sudo packagename
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> !bash | Divine_E Adie_
[05:20] <chuxxsss> When using Synapic package manager, will not download anything.  Tired to change (Select Best Server)
[05:20] <IdleOne> Adie_: same way you did before you ran that command
[05:20] <Divine_E> Ah okay.  I knew the sudo part, I just couldn't remember if there was something special I had to do to open a file up with the text editor.
[05:21] <chuxxsss> Comes back with no internet
[05:21] <gogeta> Divine_E: or save it in home and move it over as root make backup as well
[05:21] <Adie_> IdleOne: sorry: I don't have a GUI
[05:21] <Adie_> IdleOne: http://i.imgur.com/tXCGT.jpg
[05:21] <Adie_> updating to 12.10 broke it
[05:21] <Adie_> well, I mean... no window manager
[05:21] <IdleOne> Adie_: but if you really don't know how to get to a terminal I suggest you do a clean install of 12.04
[05:21] <Adie_> do YOU know how to get to the terminal from this?
[05:22] <IdleOne> Adie_: ctrl-alt-F1, F7 will take you back to gui. more support in #ubuntu+1 since you're running 12.10
[05:22] <gogeta> Divine_E: that way if the system has a Hart attack you can recover it
[05:22] <chuxxsss> Which port does APT-Get use?
[05:23] <chuxxsss> Please
[05:23] <Divine_E> I already have a back up of the system.  I have a 1 tb external with all my important data.
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> IdleOne:you know howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on older ati card an radeon driver? 'nomodeset' fixes it but compiz is onworkable..
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> chuxxsss:you think router blocks apt-get?
[05:23] <jeep> lotuspsychje: did you try a custom kernel yet ?
[05:24] <chuxxsss> yes lotuspsychje
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> jeep:no mate howto? and wich one?
[05:25] <chuxxsss> I have netstat -an | grep "LISTEN " to get ports but not sure which port controls it.
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> chuxxsss:http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/1041-apt-get.html
[05:26] <chuxxsss> I will try it thanks lotuspsychje
[05:26] <Auzy> g'day.. Is something seriously wack with Ubuntu at the moment? I've noticed in Ubuntu, I can't always click the menu's icon, in Kubuntu fresh, same thing happens, and I noticed a patch was applied 2 days ago  affecting the focus of apps...
[05:26] <Auzy> I mean, the show all apps button
[05:27] <Auzy> In kubuntu, there are similar isues. if I press the K, that works, but, if I move around in the menus, certain windows don't respond to clicks, etc
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> chuxxsss:while trying the apt-get on synaptics, you could tail-f /var/log/syslog to see whats happening
[05:30] <Flaffen> back
[05:30] <jeep> lotuspsychje: just for entertainment purposes i would try newest stable from kernel.org
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen: any luck mate
[05:31] <Flaffen> nope, no difference in 2d either
[05:31] <Flaffen> and only got current installed
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen:did you upgrade ubuntu or clean install?
[05:31] <Divine_E> Alright, edited the file.  Going to restart.  Here goes nothing.
[05:31] <Divine_E> Thanks for the help.
[05:31] <Flaffen> clean install like hours ago
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen:not all cards run compiz and gl properly, maybe try ##hardware to check your card+ubuntu?
[05:33] <Flaffen> hardwaremonitor or somthing?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> jeep: cant i run a commandline kernel upgrade?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen: no its a channel supporting hardware
[05:34] <Flaffen> ah ok
[05:35] <Divine_E> Okay, the good news?  My computer didn't die.  The bad news?  It gives the same error still, but with 'O' or '0' in place of sda3.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:can you pastebin your etc/fstab here plz
[05:35] <jeep> lotuspsychje: take source from kernel.org ... make .deb from it and install it you always apt-get remove it as well
[05:36] <jeep> lotuspsychje: since you have wrestled everything else you can i would try it
[05:36] <Nautilus__> whaaa? LOL  the CD burn says the media or burner or media doesn't support 16x write speed, so it turned it up to 17x.  Is that like turning a guitar amp up to 11?
[05:36] <Divine_E> http://pastebin.com/z42XLPyY
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> jeep:yes would be a good idea to try
[05:38] <jeep> lotuspsychje: /msg me
[05:39] <Flaffen> @lotuspsychje, no response whatsoever
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:check gparted to see if there are no left-overs on that partition
[05:39] <Flaffen> anyways, it has worked better earlier
[05:40] <Flaffen> dunno if glx or opengl worked, but i could play simple games, now they wont even open @lotuspsychje
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen: any logs in /var/log that could interest your problem?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen, use nickname: to highlight
[05:42] <Flaffen> lotus: doubt it, dunno what to look for, and what worked is at least 2 clean installs ago
[05:45] <Flaffen> there, unity 2d crashed too
[05:45] <Divine_E> No, only my Ubuntu partiton and and Linux swap are there.
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen: did you look at additional drivers ?
[05:45] <morgan> what password do I put in when I do: sudo mount -t smbfs //readyshare/usb_storage/ /media/readyshare/
[05:45] <Flaffen> ye, i've looked at 173. current, bumblebee
[05:46] <Flaffen> and the nvidia setup thing says xorg aint using something, and when i do nvidia-xconfig i get like 320x240 rez, and i cant get it back to normal
[05:47] <Flaffen> unless i manually delete the thing and replace with old one
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E: you sure there is no drive still connected in pc thats broken or something?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen:read in ##hardware
[05:47] <Divine_E> 100% sure.  sda3 was a partition that is now gone.
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:not sure then why it still warns you on boot
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen:the guy on hardware says it might conflict with xorg
[05:50] <Flaffen> ok, so it usually has issues with it, problem is that i've had simple games like emulators working with graphics before
[05:50] <Divine_E> Well, it seems a little progress has been made since it says '0' instead of 'sda3'
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> Flaffen:maybe google bugs on optimus and xorg to see?
[05:50] <Flaffen> ok, hmm, what i doo then?
[05:50] <Flaffen> ij
[05:50] <Flaffen> iok*
[05:51] <Divine_E> There is a folder labeled 'sda3' under /media
[05:51] <Divine_E> it is completely empty though, and is a folder, not a device.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E: can you try install ntfs-3g, config it and reboot?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:might be the last line too much on fstab nls=iso8859-1,users,umask=000,user,owner,uid=divine 0 0
[05:54] <Divine_E> So, I should delete that line?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:make a backup of fstab to make sure, but try yes
[05:56] <Cell> Hey guys I just read Ubuntu 12.10 supports full disk encryption. How is this different from what I'm currently using (I chose encryption during the install process)?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Cell: install proces your /home encrypted
[05:56] <Divine_E> Alright, made said changes, and will be restarting now.  I will report back with results.
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Cell:full disk means your whole drive
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> !encryption | Cell
[05:57] <Cell> are those two different services though? Is full disk encryption done by EncryptFS?
[05:58] <Cell> If I use full disk encryption, is my home directory also encrypted seperately with LVM?
[05:58] <morgan> argggg it's asking for password when I add to /etc/fstab //readyshare/USB_Storage /media/readyshare smbfs user,defaults 0 0
[05:58] <morgan> anyone know how to mount readyshare from netgear router?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> mirgan:sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Cell: i think if you use whole drive encryption your home will be auto too
[06:00] <Divine_E> It worked.  Thank you so much.
[06:00] <Flaffen> lotus: damn, still get Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[06:00] <Flaffen> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E: /media still showing stuff now?
[06:01] <Cell> lotuspsychje: so if I have several user directories, anyone with the password to boot up the system could also access the files in the other users' directories? or is each one encrypted with a seperate key?
[06:01] <Divine_E> Yeah, still shows a sda3 folder that is empty.
[06:01] <Cell> the installer screenshot seems to suggest LVM is not used if you select full disk encryption
[06:01] <morgan> lotuspsychje, was that to me? it asks for 'password' not my sudo password or anyting like it needs password for the share???
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Cell: i think its more recommended to encrypt /home dirs seperate...if a home is encrypted it would be safe with long pass
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:a folder with hd icon?
[06:03] <Divine_E> No, seems to be just a folder.
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:try dragging a file to it see what it does
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> Cell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto
[06:04] <Divine_E> says "Error moving file: Permission denied"
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:try open terminal and sudo nautilus, and again drag a file to it
[06:06] <Cell> it says that file is for an unsupported version of ubuntu
[06:06] <Cell> nm, found the new version
[06:06] <Star_Light> hello is there any room for Visual Basic queries ?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Star_Light
[06:07] <DrProfessor> hey everyone, i was trying to get some information about vlc on my raspberry pi so i typed vlc --help and then the text starts scrolling faster than i can read it and its too long to see the whole thing. is there a way to slow that down or make it scrollable simmilar to the man pages? sorry if this is a noob question.
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> DrProfessor: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[06:08] <DrProfessor> i know but the guys at raspbian were ignoring me and i thought it was a comman thing
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> DrProfessor:sorry mate only ubuntu problems here
[06:09] <Divine_E> It moved over fine.
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:means there is still an ntfs partition mate
[06:10] <joe__663> hey guys, ubuntu 12.04 lts. my display messed up after running 'apt-get install nvidia-current'
[06:10] <Divine_E> gparted says different.
[06:11] <DrProfessor> lotuspsychje: okay.jpeg sorry
[06:11] <joe__663> so i ran 'apt-get purge nvidia-current' but that didn't help. i can't get beyond very low resolution of 640x840
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:try installing ntfs-3g, config your drive and reboot
[06:11] <Divine_E> I just deleted the folder titled sda3
[06:11] <Divine_E> it's gone now.
[06:12] <tsimpson> DrProfessor: pipe the output through more or less: "vlc --help | more" or "vlc --help | less"
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:lol that doesnt mean the physical partition will be gone
[06:12] <Divine_E> ...  There is no partition.
[06:12] <Divine_E> It seemed to be an empty folder.
[06:13] <DrProfessor>  tsimpson: thanks! that did it.
[06:13] <Divine_E> I erased sda3 a while ago, and gave it's space to sda4
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E: i would try ntfs-3g to make sure, if it doesnt find any ntfs partitions anymore, u safe to go
[06:14] <Divine_E> which is an Ubuntu partition consisting of sda5, and sda6  the file system and the swap respectively.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> anyway i gotta run
[06:16] <joe__663> hey guys, ubuntu 12.04 lts. my display messed up after running 'apt-get install nvidia-current'
[06:16] <joe__663> so i ran 'apt-get purge nvidia-current' but that didn't help. i can't get beyond very low resolution of 640x840
[06:16] <Flaffen> damn, nothing supports opengl
[06:17] <Divine_E> All is well now.  Thanks guys.  This is why I love Linux.  Such an awesome community.
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> Divine_E:gl mate
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> i gotta run
[06:18] <Divine_E> Bye all.
[06:18] <Flaffen> so any wizzes ehre on graphic cards?
[06:19] <jeep> i think video cards are 90% of the problems maybe we should all go back to using a shell only
[06:23] <Flaffen> lol
[06:23] <Flaffen> yep, they keep beeing my nemesis
[06:24] <hfic> being*
[06:25] <jeep> i remember the good ol days of manually editing my xf86config to run 3 head and xinerama it was video cards uphill both ways in the snow !
[06:25] <Flaffen> /sys/module/nvidia_current/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind nvidia_current driver, i get this after installing  the current driver
[06:26] <Cell> damnit I wish I was reformatting a month later
[06:26] <Cell> ubuntu 12.10 ships on the 18th of october
[06:27] <joe__663> can someone please tell me how to restore original drivers ubuntu 12.04 comes with?
[06:28] <jeep> joe__663: for your graphics card ?
[06:28] <joe__663> yes jeep
[06:28]  * jeep hangs head 
[06:29] <joe__663> :)
[06:29] <jeep> joe__663: what kind of video card you have ?
[06:29] <joe__663> nvidia
[06:30] <jeep> joe__663: can you pastebin the output from lsmod
[06:30] <joe__663> yes
[06:30] <joe__663> gimme a sec
[06:30] <jeep> Flaffen: you too
[06:31] <Flaffen> ok
[06:31] <joe__663> sorry about the igonrent, but does pastebin means just copy paste? :)
[06:31] <jeep> !paste
[06:31] <Costeelation> where i can upload de imprpant pictures for show them
[06:32] <Costeelation> excuse me my english :/
[06:32] <hfic> Costeelation, I believe your looking for imgur
[06:32] <jeep> Costeelation: inappropiate or important ?
[06:32] <Flaffen> http://pastebin.com/UuED36A9 there it is jeep
[06:32] <joe__663> just did jeep
[06:33] <Flaffen> joe, pasten
[06:33] <Flaffen> nm lol @joe
[06:34] <Nautilus__> dumb 10.04 Q, I had a data DVD in and it showed up on the desktop, then took the CD out but it stills shows on the desktop, even after I put in a different data DVD.  whaaa?
[06:34] <joe__663> http://pastebin.com/RKFf3Ndc jeep, thanks :)
[06:34] <jeep> Flaffen: you have no modules loaded
[06:34] <joe__663> yeah got it flatten ;)
[06:34] <Costeelation> is similar to paste.ubuntu.com but for upload pictures :)
[06:34] <Costeelation> I saw a long page
[06:34] <Flaffen> and that means? what do i do theN?
[06:35] <DrProfessor> Nautilus__: i would try unmounting the disk first
[06:35] <Nautilus__> DrProfessor: ok, that seemed unintuitive. trying now
[06:36] <jeep> joe__663: you have nouveau the open source module loaded have you tried installing the nvidia packages ?
[06:36] <joe__663> jeep, do u mean 'apt-get install nvidia-current' ?
[06:36] <jeep> joe__663: yeah
[06:36] <Flaffen> what do i do about moduels?
[06:37] <jeep> Flaffen: show me lspci
[06:37] <joe__663> yeah, that's how i got all messed up for me, after doing that screen was pixelate
[06:37] <DrProfessor>  Nautilus__: if that doesnt work you could try a reboot, i bet that would fix it.
[06:37] <joe__663> then i had to run 'apt-get purge nvidia-current' but that didn't help. i can't get beyond very low resolution of 640x840
[06:38] <Nautilus__> DrProfessor: yea, got the unmount done but can't get new dvd to show up. rebooting. thanks
[06:38] <jeep> joe__663:  apt-get install them again
[06:38] <Flaffen> @jeep : http://pastebin.com/TCsAUeRD
[06:38] <DrProfessor>  Nautilus__: np hope everything works out
[06:39] <joe__663> i did it again jeep, and the same story, screen was pixelate untill i uninstall it
[06:39] <jeep> Flaffen: you have intel graphics
[06:39] <Flaffen> and i get rid of that?
[06:40] <jeep> joe__663: show me lspci in pastebin
[06:40] <jeep> Flaffen: you dont need nvidia drivers because you dont have a nvidia graphics card
[06:41] <joe__663> http://pastebin.com/PYVWmDKd jeep
[06:42] <jeep> joe__663: you have 2 computers i guess ?
[06:42] <joe__663> ahhm, why is that jeep? i actually have 6
[06:42] <joe__663> 3 of them running linux
[06:43] <jeep> joe__663: the trick for you i think is to blacklist nouveau modules after installing nvidia-current
[06:44] <joe__663> how do i do that jeep?
[06:44] <jeep> joe__663: check this thread out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426745
[06:45] <joe__663> gonna look it up thanks jeep
[06:45] <Nautilus__> nice. so I reboot whenever I want to change DVDs?
[06:45] <Flaffen> according to the comp i do, so i just uninstall it all?
[06:46] <DrProfessor> hey i didn't say it was a perfect fix!
[06:46] <jeep> Flaffen: where do you see nvidia ?
[06:49] <herctor> hi
[06:49] <herctor> i am a potato
[06:51] <herctor> hey
[06:51] <dez82> hi guys. Could I get some help with the Ubuntu software center please?
[06:51] <dez82> http://pastebin.com/mLNYyBFW
[06:52] <dez82> I am getting this error at the end of all my installs
[06:52] <dez82> I tried installing the javasdk to sort it, but it wouldnt install
[06:55] <joe__663> ok jeep mate, blacklisted, see you after rebooting :)
[06:56] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:56] <qualia> can anybody help me with this sound problem... When I send a message to sound device it beeps but I can't get any sound from a program called shell-fm
[06:58] <himanshu_linux> Hi , I want to change the background color of "debian Documentation Browser" . How can I do so ?
[06:58] <Flaffen> well, jeep, it said so on the comp when i bought it, like nvidia gt540m optimus
[06:58] <MrKeuner> is there a tool to detect duplicate directories rather than detecting duplicate files?
[06:59] <dez82> so many questions, not enough answers
[06:59] <ShapeShifter499> so I decided to try to install the proprietary graphic drivers for my AMD Radeon HD 4200 card in my laptop, according to the internet the latest drivers is "AMD Catalyst 12.8"  however when I use AMD's website selector it gives me a updated script (for newer Linux OSes) "AMD Catalyst 12.6"  two versions old. Does this mean I should not try the newer drivers?
[06:59] <morgan> how else can something be mount if its not in fstab?
[07:00] <namoamitabuddha> Hi, folks!
[07:00] <namoamitabuddha> I found that the font in wine is very ugly.
[07:00] <namoamitabuddha> How can I make it prettier?
[07:00] <jeep> Flaffen: you have diffrent problem then
[07:01] <Flaffen> http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops/NP-RF511-S02US
[07:01] <dez82> namoamitabuddha: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=6181
[07:02] <dez82> No problem, Happy to help. Any time!
[07:02] <jeep> Flaffen: http://pleph.appspot.com/init/posts/view/2687901
[07:02] <Flaffen> but what can that be? it even says nvidia optimus on my comp, and says gt540m on the specs
[07:03] <himanshu_linux> I want to change the background color of "debian Documentation Browser" . How can I do so ?
[07:03] <namoamitabuddha> dez82: Partly thanks.
[07:03] <namoamitabuddha> I wonder whether wine could apply the configuration in fontconfig.
[07:05] <e66> Due to this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/606624) I can not play gnibbles. Could anyone tell me where can I find the source url or gnme-games. I want to compile every release until I find a good version
[07:05] <Flaffen> jeep: i kinda did that
[07:06] <Cell> how can I burn this ISO to my usb stick? Im trying to use dd but i cant seem to use /media/USBDRIVE (it says its a directory)
[07:06] <zombii> cell; download linux live usb creator
[07:06] <jeep> Flaffen: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/bumblebee-ubuntu-1204-workaround-cannot.html
[07:06] <Cell> This can be done with dd, I just need to know what the actual device its mapped /media/USBDRIVE is
[07:06] <morgan> startup disk creator works well too
[07:07] <jeep> unetbootin as well
[07:07] <Flaffen> i assume i get rid of everything but bumblebee?
[07:07] <Cell> Im not on windows
[07:08] <Cell> let me rephrase the question, how do i access the actual device that becomes /media/SOMEMAPPEDNAME
[07:08] <Guest70424> my harddrive is fried but i was able to bring up ubuntu by putting it on an external hard drive... now i would like to put everything on that external onto a 16 gb thumb drive... any suggestions? is this possible?
[07:08] <jeep> unetbootin is a linux program as well as other inferior os's
[07:08] <zombii> im having a weird problem.   every linux disrto i try to install fails, even when using a known good disk. i've even tried on a system that loves linux
[07:09] <Flaffen> zombii, your hd aint frozen right?
[07:09] <zombii> there is no hd, installing to usb
[07:09] <Flaffen> ok
[07:09] <zombii> tried diff usb devices
[07:09] <morgan> how else can something be mount if its not in fstab?
[07:10] <Flaffen> cuz bios might set em on freeze, and u can work around if you put to sleep and wake up again
[07:10] <jeep> morgan: by doing it manually .. typing the commands
[07:10] <Cell> why cant I access /dev/sdb1
[07:10] <Cell> if its not a directory what is it
[07:10] <morgan> jeep, i manually unmount it and it remounts by itself ;\
[07:10] <adie> I accidentally didn't specify where ubuntu should install, and it wiped my NTFS harddrive with EXT4 and installed on it. how should I attempt to recover?
[07:10] <hackeridis> hi all i would like to form you all that there is a new virus its called  BackDoor.Wirenet.1
[07:11] <herctor> too simple
[07:11] <Flaffen> adie, i think reformatting would do it, just formatting wont wipe data i think, it just tells some bootsector what kinda system stuff should be stored in that part
[07:11] <jeep> adie: you win for biggest screw up of the day
[07:11] <zombii> adie, stop useing the hard drive immediately
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Cell: no its a block device
[07:12] <hackeridis> here is the site with the info it is easy to block just get a firewall and block address 212.7.208.65
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Cell: it needs mounting
[07:12] <adie> jeep, I am not using the drive right now
[07:12] <Cell> so I cant write to it directly using dd?
[07:12] <adie> I went back and installed ubuntu into the PROPER location
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> adie: use your backup
[07:12] <hackeridis> http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/08/31/new-trojan-backdoor-malware-targets-mac-os-x-and-linux-steals-passwords-and-keystrokes/
[07:12] <Cell> yet when I try to write to /media/USBDEVICE it says it's a directory and I can't dd to that?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Cell: yes you can use dd on block devices if you wish, if you want to access the files, you need to mount it
[07:12] <zombii> adie, plug that drive into a windblows computer & run pandora recovery or icare recovery
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> adie: you may be able to use foremost too. Your backups will be the ideal way
[07:13] <adie> :/
[07:13] <Cell> Oh I see, I had to use sudo to do it
[07:13] <adie> ActionParsnip, idk what you mean
[07:13] <herctor> su
[07:14] <adie> I swear it asked me if I wanted to overwrite my windows/ubuntu, but it didn't go to the right drive :|
[07:14] <adie> I wanted it to overwrite my ubuntu install, but it ate my backup drive
[07:14] <hackeridis> NEW VIRUS FOR LINUX AND MAC IT IS A KEY LOGGER BE CAREFUL
[07:14] <nyRednek> hackeridis: which one this time?
[07:14] <zombii> i never trust the installer. always do the partioting in live mode first b4 running setup
[07:15] <hackeridis> BackDoor.Wirenet.1
[07:15] <nyRednek> hackeridis: oh, knew about it a month ago
[07:15] <hackeridis> to stop it just get a firewall
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> adie: your user data can be restored from your regular backup,there is an app called foremost which may help
[07:15] <Tudor_> :)
[07:15] <hackeridis> and block address 212.7.208.65
[07:15] <adie> this isn't userdata or backup data
[07:16] <Tudor_> hello
[07:16] <hackeridis> just want to help
[07:16] <zombii> adie, stop useing the hard drive immediately
[07:16] <Guest70424> my harddrive is fried but i was able to run ubuntu by putting it on an external hard drive... now i would like to put everything on that external onto a 16 gb thumb drive... any suggestions?
[07:16] <zombii> adie, plug that drive into a windblows computer & run pandora recovery or icare recovery
[07:16] <adie> this was an NTFS drive/partition full of music and pictures
[07:16] <nyRednek> hackeridis: if you know your linux, you won't run the worm in the first place...it's an intelligence gathering bot
[07:16] <adie> .<
[07:16] <namoamitabuddha> Who suffered from wirenet?
[07:16] <namoamitabuddha> I think it is just an ad.
[07:16] <Tudor_> can someone help me in a ubuntu matter ?
[07:16] <hackeridis> maybe you know about it but others may not
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> hackeridis: seems to be a keyloger, not a virus....
[07:17] <nyRednek> again, it's a WORM, not a virus
[07:17] <zombii> guest, install linux onto the flash drive. then boot using a live disk and copy the drive to the flashdrive
[07:17] <nyRednek> it spreads when someone opens a file
[07:17] <namoamitabuddha> wirenet is just a proprietary software.
[07:17] <hackeridis> well sorry to say i am new to linux but already fixed a bug with 12.04
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> adie: do you have a backup?
[07:17] <adie> ActionParsnip, no :/
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> adie: why not? Is the data not important to you?
[07:18] <hackeridis> i know but then it tries to send to the address 212.7.208.65
[07:18] <adie> was gunna, then I couldn't afford it
[07:18] <nyRednek> in other words, don't stupidly open everything you see online, and you won't bore mossad with your personal data
[07:18] <samir> hi !! everyone
[07:18] <nyRednek> it's designed to gather intelligence, not take over people's machines
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> hackeridis: but it doesn't perpetuate, does it. It just lands on the system and sends the data home...right?
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> adie: can you afford to lose the data though?
[07:19] <SpaceTravel_> hey guys !!
[07:19] <hackeridis> no but a lot of people do online banking that i have never trusted
[07:19] <samir> i'm having  lotle prob with cinamon
[07:19] <zombii> hey man not every one can afford all this shit
[07:19] <adie> ActionParsnip, yes
[07:19] <hackeridis> yes
[07:19] <samir> anyone there ?
[07:19] <adie> still wana recover as muhc as I can tho :\
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> hackeridis: if it doesn't duplicate itself, its not a virus :)
[07:20] <zombii> he asked for help. you dont need to be a disk
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> adie: then just reinstall the OS and you are ok
[07:20] <SpaceTravel_> i just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a lapop and god it works slow ...any ideas why ?
[07:20] <adie> ActionParsnip, it's not an OS
[07:20] <adie> it's 320gb of data
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> adie: if the data is disposable why the worry
[07:20] <hackeridis> it just hides and keylogs plus it opens a backdoor
[07:20] <nyRednek> hackeridis: this worm belongs to a joint task force created from mossad and nsa analysts, they aren't after your financial info. they're after syrian and persian state secrets
[07:20] <adie> because it took years to collect :\
[07:20] <hackeridis> its a trojan
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> adie: then you should backup.....you have learned the value of backup the hardest way possible
[07:21] <zombii> adie, plug the drive into a windows pc and run pandora recovery
[07:21] <samir> pob. with cinnamon
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> hackeridis: yes, but not a virus
[07:21] <adie> zombii, I don't have a windows computer
[07:21] <hackeridis> no
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> adie: try foremost in liveCD and for god's sake get a damn backup
[07:21] <zombii> then you will need to start reading cuz this aint easdy
[07:21] <hackeridis> well here is the site about it
[07:21] <hackeridis> http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/08/31/new-trojan-backdoor-malware-targets-mac-os-x-and-linux-steals-passwords-and-keystrokes/
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/computer+virus
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> hackeridis:  a software program capable of reproducing itself
[07:22] <zombii> worm spreads on its own, virus requires user interaction.
[07:22] <hackeridis> just reading your link hold on
[07:22] <nyRednek> zombii: other way around
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> hackeridis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus   again: A computer virus is a computer program that can replicate itself
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> hackeridis: its not a virus, if the software read your email contacts and forwarded itself, then it is a virus
[07:23] <nyRednek> a trojan horse is a form of a worm
[07:23] <zombii> a virus replicates, but it requires a user to interact with it, where as a worm can infect a system on its own
[07:23] <nyRednek> zombii: no, it doesn't
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> hackeridis: just because a software does something bad to your OS does not make it a virus
[07:23] <nyRednek> zombii: you got it backwards
[07:24] <zombii> thats why it is called a worm. it worms its way through your network all by itelsef
[07:24] <nyRednek> zombii: your insistence doesn't make you less wrong
[07:25] <zombii> and because you read it on wikipedia, doesnt mean your right  :P
[07:25] <tsimpson> discussion of what is and is not a virus/trojan/worm is more appropriate in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:25] <hackeridis> people stop playing with the words have you protected your selfs from the virus
[07:25] <tsimpson> keep on topic please
[07:25] <nyRednek> zombii: i'm not the one who pulled up a wiki reference
[07:26] <namoamitabuddha> hackeridis: I think it's just a advertisement from Dr.Web.
[07:26] <nyRednek> tsimpson: agreed
[07:26] <namoamitabuddha> hackeridis: *an
[07:26] <hackeridis> did you see the site it is forbes
[07:26] <tsimpson> hackeridis: move the discussion elsewhere
[07:26] <hackeridis> unless forbes has a stack in dr.web
[07:27] <namoamitabuddha> hackeridis: Yeah but I first heard that in Dr.Web.
[07:27] <hfic> !ot
[07:27] <hackeridis> ahh ok
[07:27] <zombii> so can i get some support for my ubuntu 12.04 or 10.10?
[07:28] <nyRednek> 10.10 is no longer supported
[07:28] <nyRednek> but 12.04 is, what's your 12.04 issue?
[07:29] <zombii> i am trying to install to a flash drive but the installer keeps crashing without any verbose reasoning. this last time it crashed @ installing language packsa'
[07:29] <noskcaj> zombii: have you tryed installing it without an internet conection
[07:30] <Guest70424> my harddrive is fried but i was able to bring up ubuntu by putting it on an external hard drive... now i would like to put everything on that external onto a 16 gb thumb drive... any suggestions?
[07:30] <zombii> i have tried different ISOs, different disks, different flash drives (source and destination) and even tried from a diff laptop (my problem is, i have 2 laptops and no hard drives, but plentry of linux CDs, DVDs, and thumbdrives)
[07:30] <zombii> no i have not
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> zombii: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[07:31] <zombii> i have no working computer beyong canceling linux install and running live
[07:31] <noskcaj> the internet could be the problem but its unlikely
[07:31] <noskcaj> so i reckon try that
[07:32] <nyRednek> zombii: i'd recommend what noskcaj recommended, as well as verify the md5sum on your iso
[07:32] <zombii> i know these disks and thumbdrives with linux are good. i use them. some get used almost daily, some have only been used once. they all worked
[07:32] <namoamitabuddha> zombii: The installation process crashed?
[07:33] <zombii> i can create a linux swap partition and i think this thumbdrive has persistence. what should i download?
[07:33] <zombii> yes. installation process crashes. usually near the end of setup, this last time @ language packs
[07:33] <h22turbo> zombii>> ubuntu? since you are in the ubuntu channel....
[07:34] <zombii> ubuntu 12.04
[07:34] <h22turbo> yep
[07:34] <namoamitabuddha> http://imagebin.org/227661
[07:34] <namoamitabuddha> Is it too ugly?
[07:35] <h22turbo> namoamitabuddha>> reminds me of windows 98
[07:35] <zombii> lmao @ namoamitabuddha
[07:36] <hfic> where are iptables saved?
[07:36] <namoamitabuddha> zombii: What?
[07:36] <namoamitabuddha> h22turbo: I meant the font.
[07:36] <namoamitabuddha> Is the font too ugly?
[07:36] <h22turbo> namoamitabuddha>> looks good
[07:37] <namoamitabuddha> h22turbo: Thanks.
[07:37] <namoamitabuddha> zombii: What?
[07:37] <zombii> sorry, i just thought your suggestion was for me to use wine
[07:37] <zombii> my bad
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> h22turbo: you can change the font for the apps using ubuntu tweak. I suggest you try changing the font hinting, should help
[07:38] <S1ndr0m> Salut tuturor
[07:39] <namoamitabuddha> zombii: No. I know your problem is about the installation process of Ubuntu.
[07:39] <h22turbo> ActionParsnip>> what are you talking about?
[07:39] <no-n> how do permissions work with ext4 drives/partitions that don't belong to the operating system? does the root of a new system have full charge over it if you take it from one computer/install to another?
[07:39] <zombii> no you will be locked out
[07:40] <S1ndr0m> what?
[07:40] <S1ndr0m> who create a chat?
[07:40] <no-n> how do you make an ext4 "multi-system friendly"?
[07:40] <namoamitabuddha> h22turbo: Maybe he should have spoken to me.
[07:40] <TUX_73> hi
[07:40] <S1ndr0m> yes
[07:40] <S1ndr0m> hi
[07:40] <zombii> change the permissions to 1000?
[07:40] <S1ndr0m> no
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> h22turbo: weren't you moaning about the font in the OS...
[07:41] <namoamitabuddha> no-n: It's not "multi-system friendly", at least, no compatiblity with Windows.
[07:41] <h22turbo> ActionParsnip>> sure wasnt...
[07:41] <no-n> well, I mean with other linux systems
[07:41] <namoamitabuddha> Ah, it's okay.
[07:41] <S1ndr0m> wazzup all ?
[07:41] <zombii> just change the modify permissions lower and remove all denies
[07:41] <no-n> say if I wanted a partition to put stuff on
[07:42] <no-n> that would stay there across different os intsalls
[07:42] <zombii> that wouldnt be an issue
[07:42] <namoamitabuddha> You meant that install different distros on the same partition?
[07:42] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: No, but I was asking about that, but not the font for OS. It's the font in wine.
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> !font
[07:43] <no-n> namoamitabuddha, not necessarily
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> !wine
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> the factoid used to mention wine
[07:43] <h22turbo> ActionParsnip: !youarenohelp
[07:43] <zombii> lol
[07:44] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: Wine overwrite the settings in fontconfig.
[07:44] <zombii> better than some of the "help" i've found in here
[07:44] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: Ah, not "overwrite", but "override"
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/tips-n-tricks/how-to-enable-font-anti-aliasing-in-wine.html
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> zombii: thanks :)
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> no-n: sure, just make a partition for user data and put everything there, it will be accessible by all :)
[07:45] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: Are you sure that the font in my image is not anti-aliased? I cannot make sure, but I enabled fontsmooth=rgb.
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> no-n: if you use Windows, make itr NTFS and Windows can join the fun
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: there appears to be some reg hacks
[07:46] <zombii> or hfs+
[07:46] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: Yeah it is.
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: theer is even a handy script...
[07:46] <ewaters64> itachi
[07:46] <zombii> but ext4 is nice and fast with nonrepudiation
[07:46] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: It's packaged in winetrick.
[07:47] <namoamitabuddha> zombii: Ah? Windows supports for hfs?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: no idea, not used hfs
[07:47] <zombii> i say you wont have trouble if it is a seperate partition by it's self with no OS. if it does present issues, log in under the owner and lower the value to something less restrictive
[07:48] <no-n> ActionParsnip, no windows, I want ext4 :P is there some special trick to "make it for user data"?
[07:48] <no-n> also, I want to make it encrypted
[07:49] <zombii> lol
[07:49] <zombii> that changes things a lil
[07:49] <zombii> u need a self signed cert for that and share it to all OS users
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> no-n: no, just mount it with default options in /etc/fstab  and it will be accessible
[07:49] <no-n> ok
[07:50] <Sachin__> whats the solution for thread level file locking?
[07:50] <no-n> well the main purpose is data retention between installs of operating systems... so it's not going to need be accessible to multiple users
[07:51] <solofight> people i installed openssh-server and openssh-client in my machine - when i wanted to check whether its working or not; i did ssh localhost and its says cnnection refused; i did a /etc/init.d/ssh start as well before trying that
[07:51] <zombii> each install is a diff user
[07:51] <solofight> and ps aux | grep ssh gives me a entry for ssh process
[07:51] <zombii> #ssh
[07:51] <solofight> helped needed in understanding whats happening here
[07:52] <solofight> zombii: only 11 people there ! anyways il try there since you said
[07:52] <namoamitabuddha> no-n: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/469
[07:52] <zombii> lol some one listened to me?   why would you go and do something dumb like that?
[07:53] <shihan> you can look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config and see what port its configured to be... or netstat -an |grep 22 should show you if something is listening on port 22... alternatively "lsof -p <sshd process>" should show it lisenting on a port
[07:53] <solofight> zombii: because i didnt know it was a joke - and am in deep shit with no mood for jokes
[07:53] <zombii> sorry.
[07:54] <auronandace> !language | solofight
[07:54] <shihan> alternatively make sure localhost is actually localhost
[07:55] <Sachin__>  whats the solution for thread level file locking?
[07:55] <solofight> alright - sorry about that
[07:55] <solofight> anybody can help me with this ssh problem i have ^
[07:55] <zombii> do you have apache installed and running? it could be interfering
[07:55] <shihan> err, am i really laggy or something?
[07:56] <solofight> zombii: yes yes - i have apache installed and running - but in what way it could be interferuing ?
[07:57] <no-n> namoamitabuddha, thanks =)
[07:57] <zombii> its permissions could be set to deny
[07:57] <zombii> or it might have a conflict with the cert
[07:58] <Vancho> ola-la....
[07:58] <Vancho> bear, many bear
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> solofight: try:   ssh -vv $USER@localhost
[07:58] <Vancho> why
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> solofight: could also try renaming ~/.ssh   for your user whom is connecting
[07:59] <Vancho> hura!!!!
[07:59] <Vancho> and silence....
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Vancho: do you have a support question?
[08:00] <Vancho> no....
[08:00] <Vancho> sorry
[08:00] <vincent> how do I enable audio calls with PidgIn?
[08:01] <idefix> how do I enable audio calls with PidgIn?
[08:02] <idefix> there, two people asking it.. please be so kind to answer!! :P
[08:02] <solofight> ActionParsnip: am trying it as root user so ~/.ssh can stay right ?
[08:02] <bekks> !patience | idefix
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> solofight: the root account is disabled, so you don't have a password to authenticate with
[08:03] <auronandace> solofight: why are you using ssh as root?
[08:03] <macsim> hi, I've installed nvidia.com driver and now can manage to rotate only one of my dual-screen, problem is I can't get the resolution reversed, normal view it's  1366x768 but I can add to xrandr 768x1366 here is what I did and the error : http://pastebin.com/hXriMHQW, any idea ? thanks
[08:04] <subdesign> hey any recommended software for hardware info, like hwinfo or aida on window?
[08:04] <Sprocks> solofight, I'm sure you tried Username@localhost but I thought id make sure
[08:05] <auronandace> subdesign: lshw
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> solofight: also check in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to make sure root ssh is allowed
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> subdesign: hwinfo
[08:06] <solofight> auronandace: just now i installed so checking whether its working or not
[08:06] <subdesign> thx both :)
[08:06] <solofight> Sprocks: nope- will try now
[08:06] <auronandace> solofight: ssh is meant to be ran with user
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> solofight: ssh as your user, then run:  sudo -i
[08:07] <solofight> auronandace: i switched to a user and tried same connection refused error
[08:08] <md_5> Can't get visual basic to work with monodevelop
[08:08] <md_5> Changing it to 2008 and using .net 3.5 makes it open, but it cannot find any gtk libs
[08:09] <solofight> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/yn73nrVB output of -vvv
[08:09] <Wug> md_5: let VB die
[08:10] <md_5> Wug I don't actually plan to use it :P
[08:10] <solofight> ActionParsnip: you mean sudo -i ssh localhost; as normal user ?
[08:10] <md_5> Wug its more if I can get it to work then I can remove windows safely knowing I have this as a fallback if I am ever forced to write vb
[08:10] <userdb> hellO!
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> solofight: once you get connected, run:  sudo -i
[08:10] <userdb> is there any pdf reader with annotations?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> solofight: if you run:  sudo service ssh status     is it running?
[08:11] <solofight> ActionParsnip: the problem is when i run ssh localhost as normal user it says connection refused
[08:12] <solofight> sh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[08:12] <Sprocks> solofight, what happened when you did ssh username@localhost ?
[08:12] <md_5> o.O it built by manually resolving the dll's
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> !info pdfedit
[08:13] <md_5> not really what I wanted but meh
[08:13] <solofight> Sprocks: same error
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> solofight: is ssh service running?
[08:14] <zombii> are there any known issues i should be aware of when partitioning a flashdrive?  maybe i can solve the problem by just using 2?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> userdb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1954815
[08:15] <solofight> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/YaHhZWXN
[08:15] <SpaceTravel_> i just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a lapop and god it works slow ...any ideas why ?
[08:15] <jilt007> how to password protect single usermode in ubuntu?
[08:15] <solofight> ActionParsnip: it says stop/waiting but when i do a ps -aux it has a entry
[08:16] <jilt007> not want to use grub password
[08:17] <zombii> wow.... poor mods
[08:17] <subdesign> ActionParsnip, using hwinfo --log info.log  gives an empty file ? :/
[08:17] <userdb> ActionParsnip: I don't like Xournal or using Wine
[08:17] <leotr> hi! my mouse pointer is laggy after i installed Geforce 210 videocard (previous was onboard Radeon xpress 200)
[08:18] <jilt007> Any one has solution?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> solofight: kill the process in ps, then start the service with:  sudo service ssh start
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> leotr: did you install the proprietary video driver?
[08:19] <jacob> Hi everyone.
[08:19] <ewaters64> hello
[08:19] <jacob> I'm having an issue with multiple displays?
[08:20] <Guest5585> Gah, well I think I got renamed.
[08:20] <userdb> ActionParsnip: and Okular have 200 dependencies :D
[08:20] <leotr> ActionParsnip, yes
[08:20] <bekks> userdb: And why is that important? :)
[08:20] <Guest5585> Anyway, I just installed ubuntu, and I have two monitors. I was able to see both displays after before I installed the nvidia drivers, but now I can only see one screen when I go into Displays under settings.
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> userdb: scribus maybe...
[08:20] <leotr> there were 2 drivers and i tried both of thee
[08:20] <Guest5585> Is someone able to help me?
[08:21] <zombii> geforce210 is a lil slow for ubuntu
[08:21] <bekks> zombii: Nope. Even an old GF4 is more than fast enough.
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> leotr: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[08:21] <zombii> '90s geforce?
[08:21] <leotr> them* (and my keyboard is laggy too, some letters get untyped when i type fast)
[08:21] <leotr> just a minute
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> zombii: my 6150 runs Ubuntu just fine
[08:21] <zombii>  wasnt made in the late 90s
[08:21] <bekks> zombii: Sure. Why would that not be fast enough, technically. Thats nonsense :)
[08:22] <userdb> bekks: because Okular is for kde
[08:22] <moah> hello #ubuntu, maybe someone can help me with a problem: I have 12.04 installed on my notebook, and there is a noticeable and very annoying display lag in terminals, sometimes the terminal needs a few seconds to update, sometimes only parts of the terminals update and some line go missing, what might be causing this?
[08:22] <bekks> userdb: And why is that important? okular runs fine on gnome, after just installing it.
[08:22] <zombii> i must be unaware that they have another card using the same name
[08:22] <userdb> bekks: ok, i'll give it a try :)
[08:23] <leotr> ActionParsnip, it displays in Russian. How can i turn it to English?
[08:23] <arunkumar413> i installed chromium. In youtube video, i right clicked to set the storage setting to max. but I'm unable to close the popup
[08:23] <zombii> try firefox
[08:23] <morgan> how else can something be mount if its not in fstab and I have not manually mounted it? I think ubuntu mounted it on its own somehow in unity and I can't figure out how D:
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> zombii: GeFore210 relase 2009. GeForce6150 was 2005
[08:25] <solofight> ActionParsnip: i killed the running ssh using kill $(pgrep ssh); and then did this http://pastebin.com/nJCeBGnv
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> leotr: can you pastebin it and i'll translate online
[08:26] <leotr> ActionParsnip, http://dpaste.com/798106/
[08:26] <leotr> i think it's still understandable
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> solofight: kill -9 20397
[08:27] <zombii> i thought he was refurring to the geforce 2 210
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> leotr: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:27] <userdb> bekks: i installed it, and can't find add notes or highlighting
[08:28] <leotr> ActionParsnip, ok thanks will do
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> leotr: your chip may need the newer driver, helps a lot here (makes mine be able to play 3d games well)
[08:29] <spoofkelberry> So, I'm having issues with my drivers and having two displays, is someone able to assist me please? :)
[08:29] <solofight> ActionParsnip:  evena after putting kill -9 20397 when i do a ps -auz | grep ssh; still there is a process with 20397 with the name ssh-agent
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> solofight: tried a reboot?
[08:30] <solofight> ActionParsnip: will do now
[08:32] <spoofkelberry> Can anyone assist me? :(
[08:34] <spoofkelberry> Is my chat being sent or am I being ignored? :(
[08:34] <spoofkelberry> Perhaps I joined the wrong IRC.
[08:34] <solofight> ActionParsnip: holy mother of god - reboot did the trick - cant believe that it has become like windows system !
[08:34] <solofight> ActionParsnip: thank you so much
[08:34] <smartboyhw> spoofkelberry, what is your problem
[08:34] <spoofkelberry> I'm having an issue with a second monitor.
[08:35] <solofight> ActionParsnip:  as of now got the instnce running with ssh - will upgrde to v12 LTS later
[08:35] <spoofkelberry> After installing the nvidia drivers, it doesn't appear to respond
[08:35] <spoofkelberry> I go to the displays option in system settings, and it does not detect it.
[08:40] <spoofkelberry> I suppose I will try and see what google has to offer, apparently I'm unique in getting this error.
[08:40] <spoofkelberry> Well, not error, just a problem.
[08:40] <shihan> i have a machine with an on-board nvidia card that wont detect two monitors
[08:41] <spoofkelberry> Oh, yea! We have the same problem.
[08:41] <shihan> i gave up trying to figure out what was up with it though
[08:41] <spoofkelberry> Well, I do a lot of programming, and dual monitors are generally a must.
[08:41] <jofr54> Hi 256mo PIII 1200 Mhz poddible to use Ubuntu or other ?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> solofight: reboots fix things :)
[08:42] <shihan> spoofkelberry: 100% agree :)
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> jofr54: lubuntu, its super light
[08:43] <spoofkelberry> Oh, I may have found the issue.
[08:43] <shihan> spoofkelberry: the one i was having issues with was a board (zotac mini-itx amd thingo) with a gf8200 on board... i never managed to get it to work
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> jofr54: or for extreme lightness, ubuntu minimal + fluxbox + slim + wicd :)
[08:43] <iqualfragile> hey guys im having a bit of a problem here: im on 64-bit ubuntu, installed virtualbox-ose. now i try to run the 64-bit ubuntu-server but it says i would have 32-bit hardware
[08:43] <spoofkelberry> I found the problem
[08:43] <spoofkelberry> go into terminal and type nvidia-settings
[08:44] <spoofkelberry> and then click on x server display configuration
[08:44] <spoofkelberry> and you're able to enable it
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> iqualfragile: if your CPU doesn't support 64bit virtualization you cannot run 64bit guest OS
[08:44] <shihan> sadly, that board of mine has departed this world for the next life :)
[08:44] <iqualfragile> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 lahf_lm dtherm
[08:45] <shihan> is that an amd chip?
[08:45] <iqualfragile> no, intel
[08:45] <jofr54> ActionParsnip  how to install ubuntu minimal ?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> !minimal | jofr54
[08:46] <jilt007> create file using cat touch  echo..   Is there any more way to do so?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> iqualfragile: check in BIOS. Why do you want 64bit guest so bad?
[08:46] <shihan> you need the vmx flag in intel for hardware virt (could be switched off in bios though)
[08:47] <jofr54> ok ActionParsnip  and ubottu  i will try
[08:47] <shihan> iqualfragile: what cpu model is it?
[08:48] <iqualfragile> model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad  CPU   Q8200  @ 2.33GHz
[08:48] <iqualfragile> allso im unable to allow any guest to use more then one cpu
[08:48] <iqualfragile> im shure i did that earlier
[08:48] <furycd001> Can anyone tell me how i can get a MicroNEXT MN-WD550M wireless dongle working with the ubuntu minimal.iso :?  It doesn't seem to be recognised & the installation keeps asking me to set up dchp…
[08:49] <Michelle_> hi, i need help with booting ubuntu on mac via usb :/
[08:49] <shihan> no vmx flag on q8200 apparently
[08:50] <jofr54> what is the best ext3 or ext4 ?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> iqualfragile: if the feature is disabled in BIOS, it won't work
[08:50] <iqualfragile> ok, im gona check that
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> jofr54: I'd go with Ext4, its by no means better but its a bit faster. Deopends on needs
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> iqualfragile: why do you need 64bit guest?
[08:51] <jofr54> the more fast ?
[08:51] <iqualfragile> because i need to rebuild a network, where this computer is on 64 bit, its important
[08:51] <shihan> might wanna read that bit: http://tuxradar.com/content/virtualisation-made-easy
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> iqualfragile: ok cool, check BIOS first :)
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> jofr54: ext4 is faster
[08:51] <jofr54> ok thnaks
[08:52] <jofr54> thank*
[08:52] <Michelle_> how to boot ubuntu via bootable usb on mac?
[08:53] <rgenito> aww
[08:53] <leotr> fat is fastest
[08:53] <rizwan> hi
[08:54] <rizwan> how to install java in wine on ubuntu 12.04
[08:54] <Michelle_> i need help booting ubuntu on mac via usb :(
[08:54] <morgan> have they fixed the java exploits yet?
[08:55] <rizwan> i need to install on application exe on ubuntu through wine , but ending with an error java not instlled
[08:55] <rizwan> on ubuntu installed java7
[08:55] <rizwan> and checked its working fine
[08:55] <Michelle_> rizwan: try to install java windows version on wine
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: make the bootable USB in the normal way, and insert the usb to the device.
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> rizwan: what app are you trying to run?
[08:56] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: should i use refit? because using refit and choosing linux makes the screen on black
[08:56] <Michelle_> only*
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> rizwan: surely if it's Java , it will run on the Linux OS natively....
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: no idea, I don't buy Mac rubbish
[08:57] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: -.-
[08:57] <rizwan> facebook chat client
[08:57] <rizwan> trying to run through wine
[08:57] <Michelle_> rizwan: does the app you want to use has format .jar?
[08:58] <hoijui> my /boot is relatively small (~ 100MB). with about one new kernel per month, ubuntu fills it up in no time, and then fails to update new stuff
[08:58] <rizwan> its in exe format
[08:59] <hoijui> couldnt the kernel update somehow check if there is enough space, and suggest removal of old kernel packages if not?
[08:59] <smadam> hi everyone, how can I read a 0x83 partition (in windows or linux). in ubuntu, it says there is data, but won't mount...in windows, of course it doesn't natively read linux partitions, even with the help of a 3rd party tool
[08:59] <Michelle_> rizwan: http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=68735
[09:00] <Michelle_> rizwan: try to install it on wine
[09:00] <iqualfragile> i was unable to find an option like that
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> rizwan: tried http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enable-facebook-chat-for-pidgin-in-ubuntu.html
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> rizwan: doesn't it run in the web browser?
[09:01] <rizwan> earlier i install jdk-6-windows-i586 through wine
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> rizwan: or are you wanting to use webcam etc?
[09:01] <rizwan> downloading file by ur link, its 27Mb file
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> rizwan: http://superuser.com/questions/192253/how-do-you-enable-webcam-support-in-facebook-for-ubuntu-10-04
[09:02] <Michelle_> someone knows about refit who can help me?
[09:02] <rizwan> Thanks for asking about webcam, no need now if required will definately let u know, thanks you sooo much :)
[09:02] <jofr54> ubottu   i downlaed mini.iso  and I boot on
[09:03] <iqualfragile> so what can i do?
[09:03] <rizwan> ActionParsnip : Thanks for asking about webcam, no need now if required will definately let u know, thanks you sooo much :)
[09:03] <nokia> is it possible to install Ubuntu12.04 (bare minimum) and then install xfce totally bypassing unity/gnome3.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> rizwan: http://shuffleos.com/5569/jfbchat-facebook-chat-client-ubuntu-desktop/  found that too?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> nokia: yes
[09:03] <Calinou> nokia, why not use xubuntu?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> !minimal | nokia
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> nokia: then install xfce4 once rebooted to the minimal install, may want to install network-manager or wicd for network (if xfce4 doesn't pull one in)
[09:04] <nokia> I want to completely avoid the unity/gnome3 tablet os
[09:05] <tsimpson> nokia: why not just install xubuntu?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> nokia: why not just install Xubuntu?
[09:05] <sajan> How well does xfce work on Ubuntu? (might be a newb question), I like xfce and don't like Unity.  However Xubuntu is crashing all over the place.
[09:05] <Calinou> three people said this :)
[09:06] <Calinou> unity certainly isn't a tablet OS, btw
[09:06] <tenX> but why pink
[09:10] <rizwan> <ActionParsnip : Actionvoip is not working through wine, its crashing again and again
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> sajan: works well, could also try Kubuntu or Lubuntu
[09:12] <iqualfragile> so it seems like my cpu does not support vtx, how can i run an 64-bit os anyways?
[09:12] <sajan> ActionParsnip: Will do.  REALLY like xfce, and definitely want something backed by someone like Canonical.
[09:12] <extropy> is there a community for displaced PPC-era Apple-turned-linux users?
[09:14] <iqualfragile> seems like it would be impossible…
[09:14] <iqualfragile> thats sad
[09:15] <zombii> ?
[09:16] <Guest29303> do i need to configure AppArmor or it do the work then it is installed ?
[09:16] <gipzo> Hi, are there any good guides to make system partition read-only? Ubuntu-server is on USB flash and it's very slow when writing on it...
[09:16] <maddinw> Goor morning everyone
[09:17] <iqualfragile> just mount it with -ro
[09:17] <maddinw> mout it with the option -ro
[09:17] <gipzo> It is not booting then )
[09:17] <maddinw> Then it probably needs write access
 : Actionvoip is not working through wine, its crashing again and again
[09:17] <maddinw> Anyway, I have trouble with seahorse.
[09:17] <gipzo> And showing some error messages with tty's
[09:17] <morgan> how do I make unity not show non mounted stuff? or... this device that I don't believe should be mounted
[09:17] <morgan> I wanna use fstab instead of whatever unity is trying to do
[09:18] <iqualfragile> you can use myunity
[09:18] <rizwan> morgan : Actionvoip is not working through wine, its crashing again and again , any idea
[09:18] <maddinw> I have backed up my files with deja-dup and restored them that way too.
[09:18] <iqualfragile> and configure wich devices should be shown
[09:18] <maddinw> Now, after restoring them I delete my gnome config files
[09:18] <maddinw> And suddenly my passwords are gone
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> sajan: Lubuntu and Kubuntu are both official canonical releases
[09:19] <maddinw> The files are there however
[09:19] <maddinw> secring.gpg and pubring.gpg are there
[09:20] <maddinw> Is there any way I can re-import these passwords into seahorse? Importing them with the import option (duh) doesn't work
[09:20] <sajan> ActionParsnip: Good to know.  I've only moved to Linux for about a year and really only knew Unity.  I'm really like these other DMs.  Good to see Canonical support and release others.
[09:21] <maddinw> Funny thing is: if I don't remove my old config files, the passwords are still there
[09:21] <maddinw> Any idas
[09:21] <maddinw> *ideas?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> sajan: indeed, there is chocie
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> sajan: they are DEs too, not DMs :)
[09:26] <rizwan> <ActionParsnip :- action voip application is not working through wine , its crashing s soon as it opens
[09:26] <n2i> Hi all!
[09:27] <n2i> Why is the TexLive version in Ubuntu is 2009? It seems very old?
[09:27] <rizwan> i have action voip account and balance, but unable to use on ubuntu, for using i need to use windows everytime;`(
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> n2i: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=texlive
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> n2i: https://launchpad.net/~aelmahmoudy/+archive/tl2009?field.series_filter=precise
[09:30] <rizwan> <ActionParsnip : any idea about ActionVoip calling service and applications ?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> rizwan: not something I use, sory
[09:31] <gipzo> I mounted system as ro and this what i got
[09:31] <gipzo> IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/var/log/supervisor/supervisord.log'
[09:31] <gipzo> touch: setting times of `/var/lib/sudo`: Read-only file system
[09:31] <gipzo> touch: cannot touch `/var/lib/sudo/testy/tty1`: Read-only file system
[09:31] <gipzo> grub-editenv: error: cannot open the file /boot/grub/grubenv
[09:32] <rizwan> ActionParsnip: ok, no problem, thanks
[09:32] <gipzo> should i use tmpfs for /var or it's not very good?
[09:32] <gipzo> Now i got only this in my fstab
[09:32] <gipzo> /dev/sda1 /               ext2    noatime,ro 0       1
[09:32] <gipzo> none /tmp tmpfs nr_inodes=200k,mode=01777,size=32M,nosuid,nodev 0 0
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> gipzo: as long as it's big enough, why no. You can aways test it then if it's bad then boot to liveCD or root recovery and edit /etc/fstab back
[09:35] <gipzo> Ok, thanks ;)
[09:37] <gipzo> One more question: How can i mount directory as rw on ro partition?
[09:38] <gipzo> I'm worried about this line: "grub-editenv: error: cannot open the file /boot/grub/grubenv"
[09:38] <tsimpson> you can't mount a directory, if you need write access you need to mount the partition as rw
[09:39] <Guest91997> HALLO, ICH BIN HITLER!
[09:39] <Guest91997> COMPOOTA SWEEEE
[09:39] <Guest91997> COMPOOTA SWEEEE
[09:39] <FloodBot1> Guest91997: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:41] <leotr> ActionParsnip, i did run the comands you gave me, updated ubuntu but still mouse is laggy and keyboard also is ^(
[09:42] <morgan> okay I confused myself... how can I hide the devices in Nautilus, not unity lol
[09:42] <morgan> or is there something better than Nautilus?
[09:43] <stephan_arch2> hey guys, does anyone know if there is a working playmouth-manager(GUI)?
[09:43] <hex20dec> Hey people, question. How would I view the \r or \n in text files where I execute the command 'echo hello >> file.txt'?
[09:43] <stephan_arch2> morgan, maybe spacefm is something for you, very editable :)
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> morgan: better is an opinion, it is never concrete
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> morgan: I like pcmanfm :)
[09:44] <aakram> hello everyone!
[09:44] <stephan_arch2> ActionParsnip, pacmanfm is still supported?
[09:44] <cvr> morgan: just install mc and be done with it
[09:44] <smartboyhw> Hi aakram
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> stephan_arch2: its the default file manager in Lubuntu...so yes
[09:44] <Guest29303> Recomend linux firewall with gui. Does iptables have gui ?
[09:44] <smartboyhw> ActionParsnip is too busy:)
[09:45] <aakram> I have just setup a new PC and I am able to install ubuntu, but not run it. I was wondering if someone is able to help?
[09:45] <smartboyhw> aakram: Why?
[09:45] <aakram> hi smartboyhw!
[09:45] <morgan> cvr, midnight commander?
[09:45] <theadmin> Guest29303: Install "gufw", it's a frontend to UFW, which is a frontend to iptables
[09:46] <jakeR333> hi
[09:46] <cvr> morgan: yeh
[09:46] <jakeR333> i come in peace!
[09:46] <aakram> well, the new system has a UEFI bios, an SSD primary drive, and a RAID 1 secondary drive array. Ubuntu, CentOS, or Fedora all install OK, but fail the same way to boot. Even the live versions of these OSs fail to boot.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | Guest29303
[09:46] <theadmin> aakram: EFI requires a special GRUB version
[09:47] <aakram> theadmin, thanks. But even for a Live OS?
[09:47] <theadmin> aakram: In Ubuntu, the package is called "grub-efi". Follow the command-line way as described in the !recovergrub factoid, but apt-get install grub-efi first.
[09:47] <marcappuccino> aakram did you add the 1mb biosgrub parttion?
[09:47] <smartboyhw> !efi
[09:47] <marcappuccino> for gpt tables
[09:47] <theadmin> aakram: I'm not sure what can be the problem with live boot though
[09:47] <smartboyhw> !uefi
[09:47] <theadmin> !botabuse > smartboyhw
[09:47] <aakram> marcapuccino, no but thanks for the tip. I will look into it
[09:48] <smartboyhw> ...
[09:48] <marcappuccino> it is prompted to add it on ubuntu 12.04 installation if it is not added already - it allows the bios to recognise the mbr in the gpt table
[09:49] <aakram> Will a Live OS fail the same way? When I say 'fail', what happens is that the OS loads for a while as it would normally do and then stops loading. The screen stays black and I never see the login msg
[09:49] <marcappuccino> aakram press esc and you can see the logs on the splash screen
[09:49] <aakram> I tried but there's nothing to be seen. screen stays black
[09:50] <marcappuccino> hmm
[09:50] <marcappuccino> system specs?
[09:50] <jakeR333> can i upgrade my old ubuntu without losing all my programs and settings ?
[09:50] <marcappuccino> update-manager -d
[09:50] <aakram> smartboyhw: !uefi?
[09:50] <theadmin> jakeR333: Yes, run "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" or "gksudo update-manager -d"
[09:51] <theadmin> aakram: (s)he was playing with ubottu, unfortunately she doesn't have a factoid on UEFI
[09:51] <aakram> oh ok
[09:51] <marcappuccino> bye everyone
[09:51] <smartboyhw> theadmin: I am not trying to play with it
[09:51] <smartboyhw> I just thought there is supposed to be a UEFI factoid
[09:51] <aakram> bye marcapuccino. thanks for the help
[09:51] <Pikmin> hi everyone, can i get some help with libvirt and bridged networks? just need to clarify something
[09:52] <theadmin> smartboyhw: Sorry, poor choice of words. Please PM the bot the next time you want to check whether there is a factoid of something (especially if you fail at first try), though.
[09:53] <n2i> Oh, thanks!
[09:54] <smartboyhw> OH OK
[09:54] <aakram> so you guys reckon this is definitely a uefi/Grub issue?
[09:54] <smartboyhw> aakram: Yes
[09:54] <aakram> and same with a live OS?
[09:54] <aakram> I read that a live OS, booting off a cd would be fine
[09:54] <theadmin> aakram: Well, they use GRUB on LiveCDs, although it's weird, since most people are able to live-boot on EFI
[09:55] <morgan> mmmmm those file managers all suck lol
[09:55] <aakram> cheers everyone. I will give this another go.
[09:55] <aakram> bye
[09:56] <theadmin> Ok this is weird, Firefox just randomly hung
[09:57] <zombii> whats weird about that?
[09:57] <Michelle_> someone can tell me fast what grub menu is used for?
[09:57] <theadmin> Michelle_: Um, booting into different OS'es/kernels
[09:57] <anti-freeze> Hey guys, does disk encryption that comes with Ubuntu 12.10 slow the system down?
[09:58] <Michelle_> and if i wanna boot normal to ubuntu?
[09:58] <sogeking99> hey guys, can anyone tell me how to install adobe air on ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[09:58] <theadmin> Michelle_: Then you can avoid the grub menu by setting your boot timeout to 0
[09:58] <zombii> encryption will always add extra workload to the CPU
[09:58] <Michelle_> ok :)
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> anti-freeze: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Quantal support please
[09:58] <theadmin> sogeking99: Unfortunately, Adobe have killed Air on Linux
[09:59] <zombii> yeah
[09:59] <zombii> some one was trying with wine. dont know if it worked
[09:59] <sogeking99> theadmin, oh i see. I bought mcpixel which has a linux version, but it needs adobe air?
[10:00] <theadmin> sogeking99: There still are some old versions on adobe's website, eh, let me find it
[10:00] <falco_> Hi my wifi at home is fast, but when i visit my dad it is super slow, i disabled ipv6 but it remains slow. Can I fix this somehow?
[10:01] <zombii> is it slow on dad's com as well?
[10:01] <marcappuccino> your dad has different wifi?
[10:01] <zombii> computer*
[10:01] <theadmin> sogeking99: http://airdownload.adobe.com/air/lin/download/2.6/AdobeAIRInstaller.bin - this is the last AIR version which had Linux support.
[10:01] <falco_> only on my laptop it is
[10:01] <sogeking99> theadmin, okay thanks, how do i install the .bin?
[10:01] <zombii> what router?
[10:01] <haneluya> Does anyone know how to configure my fingerprint scanner on my laptop? It seems useless in ubuntu. Which packages do I need to install? I tried to google it, and found "thinkfinger-tools", but I can't apt-get it. Any solution?
[10:02] <theadmin> sogeking99: Make it executable and run it (something along the lines of "chmod +x AdobeAIRInstaller.bin && ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin" when you cd to the directory it's located in
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> sogeking99: mark it as executable then run it with sudo
[10:04] <janek21> hey
[10:04] <sogeking99> theadmin, ActionParsnip: I got an error Adobe AIR could not be installed. 'Install either Gnome Keyring or KDE KWallet before installing Adobe AIR.'
[10:04] <sogeking99> but I am on unity
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> sogeking99: then install it :)
[10:04] <theadmin> sogeking99: That's weird since at least one of those should come with Ubuntu.
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> sogeking99: Unity is not a replacement for Gnome
[10:04] <theadmin> sogeking99: (Unity is just a shell for GNOME by the way)
[10:05] <sogeking99> oh ok
[10:05] <falco_> its a different router
[10:05] <falco_> when I had dual boot on my laptop and I logged in on windows it worked, but now i only have ubuntu on it
[10:05] <falco_> I'm connected to my dad's network atm with a lan-cable
[10:05] <zombii> no i mean what kind of router is that? (make and model)
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> falco_: what ethernet chip are you using? Does the interface have an IP? Can you ping the router's internal IP?
[10:06] <sogeking99> searching gnome keyring on the software centre shows 'keyring access' which is installed
[10:06] <Michelle_> i get black screen when choosing run ubuntu live on grub menu
[10:06] <zombii> by slow im assumeing he has connectivity
[10:06] <falco_> the router is belkin N+
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> falco_: doesn't matter what the router is
[10:07] <zombii> patiently wait. sometimes live OS takes a while to load and doesnt give a loading screen. but then again the ISO could have been bad, or the tool used to make the disk might have f(*^^d up
[10:08] <zombii> if i am going to help him, it would be useful to know what router it is  >_<
[10:08] <sogeking99> Why do Adobe have to make things difficult for Linux users
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> sogeking99: ask them
[10:09] <fcomputer> hi all :)
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> zombii: it will obey defacto standards, so you only need to worry about what the network link is.
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> falco_: you say yu are conencting with the ethernet...what ethernet chip are you using?
[10:09] <zombii> oh my god nevermind fuck THE WORLD IM OUT
[10:09] <Calinou> using xubuntu 12.04.1 64 bit. why am I forced to use 50hz 1440x900 when I can use 60hz 1440x900? using proprietary nvidia driver
[10:09] <Calinou> 32 bit didn't do that
[10:10] <falco_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192409/
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> falco_: your wifi has an IP...is that from the router in question?
[10:13] <Calinou> also, how can I change screen brightness on xubuntu? looks like I can't do that
[10:13] <falcogw> ActionParsnip: had to reconnect here srry
[10:13] <falcogw> the output of ifconfig is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192409/
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> falcogw: yeah, are your wifi adapter has an IP, is that from the router in question?
[10:15] <falcogw> yes that is the router in question
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> falcogw: but you get no web access?
[10:16] <falcogw> ActionParsnip: now I'm not on wifi, but when I'm on wifi I do have web-access, but it's extremely slow
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> falcogw: so you want to use the wired?
[10:17] <falcogw> ActionParsnip: no I would like to use the wireless, now I'm on the wired because wireless is too slow
[10:17] <falcogw> at home i got a different router but from the same brand (belkin)
[10:22] <falcogw> ActionParsnip: iwconfig output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192427/
[10:23] <falcogw> it says Mode:Managed  Access Point is that correct?
[10:24] <gogeta> falcogw: you whant AP mode if it supports it
[10:24] <gogeta> falcogw: if you whant a acess point
[10:28] <billc> i would like to connect a belkin home base control center to ubuntu
[10:28] <falcogw> gogeta: I dont want it to work as access point, how can i change the mode?
[10:28] <Calinou> anyone? :P
[10:28] <gogeta> falcogw: then managed us fine
[10:28] <gogeta> is
[10:29] <rizwan> hi
[10:29] <rizwan> gtalk video chat in pidgin
[10:29] <rizwan> not working
[10:30] <tryingUbuntu> what is up with this.. Samsung Gal s3 works fine on windows?  I get this with Ubuntu 12.04      Error initializing camera: -60: Could not lock the device
[10:30] <rizwan> aakram | michal : gtalk video chat/call  in pidgin, how to do that
[10:31] <falcogw> thanks for the help so far gogeta and ActionParsnip , I have to go now
[10:31] <Michelle_> how to boot ubuntu via bootable usb on mac using refit?
[10:31] <tryingUbuntu> the system asks what to do when I plug in usb to the computer, opens and I see the folders and Not the pictures??
[10:32] <rizwan> gtalk video chat in pidgin , any one have any idea ?
[10:32] <Michelle_> guys i get black screen when trying to boot live linux ubuntu via grub menu, someone knows why?
[10:33] <gogeta> Michelle_: video driver issue
[10:33] <Michelle_> do you know how i can fix it?
[10:34] <Michelle_> i use mac mountain lion
[10:34] <Michelle_> :P
[10:34] <tryingUbuntu> also, when using gnome2 to access the Samsung gal s3 I get  No jukeboxes found on USB bus  after the gnome2 screen goes dark grey
[10:35] <Pazzie> hi all
[10:35] <Pazzie> i was wondering if somebody can help me with a small thing
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: try the boot option: nomodeset
[10:36] <gogeta> Michelle_: you wait a minute sometimes its just the boot animation you don't see
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: the installed OS has zero bearing on booting Ubuntu from USB
[10:36] <Pazzie> i want to resize (make it bigger) my first hdd (vmware)
[10:36] <bekks> Pazzie: Shutdown the vm, resize it, start the vm.
[10:37] <Pazzie> @bekks and does ubuntu see it automaticly?
[10:37] <bekks> Pazzie: No. Because you have to resize the Ubuntu partition(s) and filesystem(s) too.
[10:38] <AlexDextrose> can somebody give me a link to show supported hardware?
[10:38] <gogeta> Michelle_: if you still don't see anything you will need to go into bash and install your video driver
[10:38] <Pazzie> bekks: okay and how do i do that?
[10:38] <Pazzie> the first part i understand
[10:39] <Michelle_> gogeta: even the keyboard won't respond on the boot screen, no purple screen too
[10:40] <Michelle_> i'm using refit for mac to detect the bootable usb, i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64-bit
[10:41] <tryingUbuntu> what is up with this.. Samsung Gal s3 works fine on windows?  I get this with Ubuntu 12.04      Error initializing camera: -60: Could not lock the device
[10:41] <Pazzie> bekks: i resized the disk in vmware,
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: when you last unplugged it, did you safetly remove it from Windows ?
[10:41] <tryingUbuntu> cant find anything that helps on the web
[10:42] <Pazzie> bekks: how do i now resize the partition in ubuntu (cli)
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: or from the last OS you used it in?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: or did you just rip it out with no software interaction?
[10:42] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip Yes windows, no linux.. Dont know how to "saftley"
[10:43] <tryingUbuntu> I get No jukeboxes found on USB bus in gnomade2
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: it will be in the unity bar, or you can use CLI, sounds like the device is locked due to not being released. Try rebooting the device
[10:43] <bekks> Pazzie: By using a gparted live livecd.
[10:43] <zorgborg> does anyone know how to convert a .exe to .bin for a BIOS update? or is that not possible and my only option would be to install coreboot?
[10:43] <bekks> zorgborg: There is no way to do so, generically.
[10:43] <tryingUbuntu> Thats not it.  I just turned it on and plugged it in.
[10:44] <zorgborg> bekks: k
[10:44] <Pazzie> bekks: i dont understand, do i need to download it? there is no other way?
[10:44] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip  Thats not it.  I just turned it on and plugged it in.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: are you trying to access the storage in the device?
[10:44] <bekks> Pazzie: Correct.
[10:45] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip   yes.  and transfer files like I can on win7
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: What file system is the storage?
[10:45] <tryingUbuntu> I have a Samsung Galazy S3
[10:46] <Pazzie> bekks: the cd says its for x86 only, and i have x64 system is that a problem?
[10:46] <bekks> Pazzie: No.
[10:47] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip    I have a Samsung Galazy S3  if that is what you were asking
[10:47] <Pazzie> bekks: okay, so basicly, just download the cd, mount the iso, and boot from cd and resize the partition? is it that simpel?
[10:49] <Sun2> greetings!
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-easily-mount-the-galaxy-nexus-on-ubuntu-11-10-via-unity  try that
[10:49] <tryingUbuntu> Pazzie   I use gparted for the partition
[10:49] <Sun2> is there any known way to make unity's interface resemble the old netbook remix?
[10:49] <Sun2> with categorized menus and everything
[10:49] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip  I will but I think it is device specific from what I have been reading/
[10:49] <userdb> how to make magnet links work on ice weasel?
[10:50] <salvo> ciao
[10:50] <salvo> !lista
[10:50] <tolmun> After reboot Xdefaults need xrdb .Xdefaults to apply color scheme? Need to run it on startup?
[10:50] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip      Looks promising for all icecream sandwich devices.. thanks and Ill get right on it
[10:51] <salvo> !lista
[10:53] <rymate1234> gey
[10:53] <rymate1234> hey
[10:53] <rymate1234> small problem with ubuntu
[10:53] <rymate1234> trying to use ym usb headset with it
[10:53] <Pikmin> libvirt and bridged networks, anyone? :)
[10:53] <Konigsberg7> anyone use youtube-dl
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> rymate1234: is the device set as the output device in sound settings?
[10:53] <rymate1234> however when I plug it in, no sound comes out of it, even when I select it with the ubuntu sound options
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Konigsberg7: I have done
[10:53] <Sun2> i'll try again: is there any known way to make unity's interface resemble the old netbook remix? with categorized menus and such
[10:54] <rymate1234> it is however recognised
[10:54] <rymate1234> the sound just comes out of my laptop speakers
[10:54] <Konigsberg7>  ActionParsnip: python youtube-dl.py --audio-format best "UvnjIEThU-U.flv"
[10:54] <Konigsberg7> is there something wrong with that
[10:54] <Konigsberg7> im trying to convert my flv into a audio file
[10:54] <truexfan81> anyone managed to run the btlive client on 12.04?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Konigsberg7: there is a site for that
[10:55] <Sun2> Konigsberg7, you can just use mplayer for that
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Konigsberg7: http://www.youtube-mp3.org/   let them do the work
[10:55] <Konigsberg7>  theres a lot of ways to do it
[10:55] <Konigsberg7> and mp3 is bad quality
[10:55] <Konigsberg7> id like to learn terminal wise
[10:55] <Sun2> Konigsberg7, try: mplayer -ao pcm file.flv
[10:55] <Sun2> that should leave you with a file named 'audiodump.wav'
[10:56] <auronandace> truexfan81: if that has anything to do with backtrack then it isn't supported here
[10:56] <truexfan81> i have no idea, its a live stream thing
[10:56] <truexfan81> they have a deb package, but it won't install due to missing dep python 2.6
[10:57] <Konigsberg7> i guess i need to get mplayer, im on windows
[10:57] <Guest14042> I make Opera and Firefox connect trough tor network to "dns leakage" test page. In Firefox i see about 12 DNS servers, but not my ISP. In Opera i see only my ISP. How that happen ?
[10:59] <Pazzie> bekks: are you still here
[10:59] <bekks> Pazzie: Yes, I am.
[11:01] <Pazzie> bekks: i started gparted, and i resize the partition but i cannot resize sda5 (i see a lock symbol
[11:01] <bekks> Pazzie: Then turn off swap usage.
[11:01] <Pazzie> bekks: how do i do that?
[11:02] <bekks> Pazzie: http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-enable-disable-swap-partition.html
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Konigsberg7: I can assume you a 2000 bps MP£ is not poor quality at all
[11:03] <cebor> hi how can i upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 ? update-manager -d has no effect
[11:03] <Konigsberg7> mplayer im sure its good
[11:03] <Konigsberg7> ill dl it
[11:03] <Konigsberg7> just wanna do youtubedl in 1 cmd though
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> cebor: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Quantal please
[11:03] <Konigsberg7> thanks for the mplayer tip
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Konigsberg7: web browsers have addons and extensions you can use too
[11:04] <Konigsberg7> i know a lot of ways to do it, but doing it in one command is going to be nice
[11:04] <Konigsberg7> normally id just use dbpoweramp and if that didnt work for some reason, id go as far as sony vegas
[11:04] <Pazzie> bekks: can i do this from the gparted cd or do i need to reboot the system and do it from there, and then restart the gparted cd ?
[11:04] <bekks> Pazzie: You have to do it from the live cd, when using the live cd.
[11:05] <Pikmin> if i wanted to backup my linux partition, to be bootable and all, would i use the dd command?
[11:07] <Pazzie> bekks: i cannot do anything with it, it has a lock symbol not a key symbol (sorry dont know how better to explain it)
[11:07] <Pazzie> bekks: the filesystem is lvm2 pv
[11:07] <c14m0> //mode $cl4m0 +x
[11:07] <wolfric> so at the moment, the software center and the likes seem to be the only tools that will install multiple things by queuing them. this isn't possible as far as i know with apt-get/aptitude. are there any commandline tools that will queue packages to install?
[11:07] <wolfric> or remove
[11:10] <bekks> Pazzie: lvm pv is not a filesystem, but a partition type.
[11:11] <Pazzie> bekks: okay, i pretty new to linux (ubuntu) so i was trying to give as much information as possible
[11:11] <Guest14042> Where i can change my DNS server?  in /etc/resolv.conf is my localhost ...
[11:11] <bekks> Pazzie: You have to extend the physical volume (pv) for lvm then, then extend the volume group (vg), then extend the volume and then resize the filesystem inside the volume.
[11:12] <Pikmin> add nameserver ipaddress to /etc/resolv.conf
[11:13] <Michelle_> hi, i get stuck at "loading /casper/vmlinuz.... , i waited minutes but nothing happens
[11:15] <Konigsberg7> there..."python youtube-dl.py --extract-audio -k "url""  keeps the best quality video and audio
[11:15] <Pazzie> bekks: i did that the /dev/sda says its 10GB (that is correct because it was 5) /dev/sda2 (extend partition) i resize from 5 to 10GB but now i want to resize the /dev/sda5 and that dont work, i still have the lock symbol the only thing i can do is change the flag
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:15] <Michelle_> how do i do that?
[11:16] <Michelle_> or i'll use google.... :P
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest14042: you can use /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail   to add the nameserver you want to use. Add a line like:   nameserver 8.8.8.8
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: without MD5 testing, you have no real way of knowing the data you downloaded is complete or consistent
[11:17] <NoNaMeNo> hi, I've being using ubuntu for a week or so, and my desktop experience is quite lagged, dual screen, 2560x1600 + 1920x1080, does it mean my grafic card is too weak? I tried with an nVidia 8400gs (free and propietary drivers) and an Radeon HD3850 (free drivers)
[11:17] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: i'll check the md5 via terminal
[11:18] <Jonii> NoNaMeNo: what do you mean by lagged?
[11:18] <charles_> why is Linux better than Windows?
[11:18] <charles_> :D
[11:18] <Jonii> charles___: obvious troll is obvious
[11:18] <delinquentme> how can I launch an instance of GEDIT on a file from the command prompt ... without having that prompt hanging up on the state ( open / closed ) of the file?
[11:18] <LjL> !ot | charles___
[11:19] <norbert_> hi, I'm looking into installing a midi editor, and when I apt-get install rosegarden or qtractor, Ubuntu is going to also install jackd
[11:19] <delinquentme> Basically I want to be able to " gedit file1 "  then " gedit file2 "  ... "gedit file3"  without having the console wait for me to close a previous file
[11:19] <norbert_> could that be problematic for other software/programs?
[11:20] <NoNaMeNo> takes like 1 second to open the "start menu" or when I alt+tab, it is horribly slow, or even move a window is not as smooth as it should be
[11:20] <Pazzie> bekks: is there anyway that i can send yo a screenshot?
[11:20] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: what do i do after i got the md5sum checksum hash on the iso?
[11:20] <Pazzie> bekks: so then you know what i mean
[11:20] <NoNaMeNo> the animation when opening the "start menu" isn't smooth either
[11:22] <Jonii> NoNaMeNo: dunno. If you figure it out, pls share, I have the same problem with my, very ancient, dual screen setup
[11:22] <NoNaMeNo> any way to deactivate the 3D stuff so I can check if that's the problem?
[11:22] <NoNaMeNo> Jonii: uhmm
[11:22] <Pazzie> bekks: if it is possible i created a channel for us so it talks easier #bekks
[11:22] <NoNaMeNo> Jonii: with Fedora it was a bit smoothier
[11:23] <NoNaMeNo> but I moved to Ubuntu because Xorg could take like 1-2gb ram in two days when idling
[11:23] <NoNaMeNo> pretty annoying
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> charles______  here's why http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Michelle_
[11:24] <Guest14042> I add OpenDns severs to resolv.conf file, but nothing happens
[11:24] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: how do i compare the source and the iso?
[11:24] <charles______> thx MonkeyDust <3
[11:24] <NoNaMeNo> Jonii: what is your graphic card? and the resolutions you are using?
[11:24] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: i got the hash
[11:25] <Pazzie> bekks: ?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: read the link ubottu gave
[11:25] <phoenixman> has anyone used "TestDisk" utility for recovery
[11:25] <phoenixman> need help here
[11:25] <bekks> Pazzie: I am still here.
[11:25] <FlowRiser> a great interactive doodle by google :D
[11:25] <Pazzie> bekks: i ccreated a channel for us, /j bekks, so it talks easier
[11:26] <phoenixman> i used testdisk to recover my partition table, now its showing me two ntfs partitions, but when i try to list the files its not listing nay
[11:26] <phoenixman> *any
[11:26] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: how do i compare the source and the iso?
[11:26] <bekks> Pazzie: I am not giving personal support, I am supporting in here. :)
[11:26] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: i mean the hash didn't match on the site
[11:27] <Pazzie> bekks: haha okay, but is there anyway that i can send you a screenshot so  you know what i mean
[11:27] <Pazzie> bekks: i did that the /dev/sda says its 10GB (that is correct because it was 5) /dev/sda2 (extend partition) i resize from 5 to 10GB but now i want to resize the /dev/sda5 and that dont work, i still have the lock symbol the only thing i can do is change the flag
[11:27] <Jonii> NoNaMeNo:  1680x1050 and 1280x1024, I don't even know my graphics card
[11:28] <NoNaMeNo> Jonii: lspci | grep VGA
[11:29] <Jonii> Radeon HD 4350
[11:29] <Michelle_> ubbottu: thanks for the link, the hash i got didn't match on the site you linked to me, do i need to redownload iso to get a correct hash?
[11:29] <Michelle_> ubottu*
[11:30] <hfic> !ubottu
[11:30] <Jonii> michelle, ubottu is a bot, not human
[11:30] <Pazzie> bekks: i now see that all of my other disks have the same lock symbol like i cannot do anything with it
[11:30] <Michelle_> Jonii: oh sorry o.o
[11:32] <bekks> Pazzie: Then upload a screenshot somewhere.
[11:32] <Michelle_> but if the hash on iso didn't match the site, do i need to redownload from the ubuntu site to get a correct hash?
[11:32] <bekks> Pazzie: and I already told you on how to resize the pv. You cant do that with gparted.
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: if the hash is different you need to redownload as it has become mangled in transit
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: that is why MD5 testing exists
[11:34] <Pazzie> bekks: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2185/screenshotoj.jpg
[11:34] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: okey :) i learned now what MD5 is hehe thanks i'll redownload and try bye
[11:34] <Michelle_> again
[11:35] <Konigsberg7> ugh whats the equiv to ls in the wndows cmd prompt
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Konigsberg7: DIR
[11:37] <Konigsberg7> thanks
[11:37] <melo_> hello
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Konigsberg7: if you use powershell, both ls and dir can be used
[11:40] <abraham_> Hello
[11:40] <abraham_> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[11:41] <abraham_> How do I upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS?
[11:41] <dr_willis> same as you update normally
[11:41] <dr_willis> !version
[11:41] <abraham_> That was not working
[11:41] <dr_willis> if you have done a update/upgrade recently you most likely are using 12.04.1
[11:41] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get update       sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:41] <abraham_> From the terminal?
[11:42] <dr_willis> use any of the update tools...
[11:42] <dr_willis> terminalk is easiest to type. ;)
[11:42] <Onlyodin> ...or alt-f2
[11:43] <Dynamit> in apt-get you have a do-releasupgrade I'm pretty sure I have spell it some parts wrong
[11:43] <abraham_> Once again,not working
[11:43] <abraham_> I used the commands in the terminal
[11:43] <dr_willis> 'not working' tells us nothing..
[11:43] <noev> Hello there, could somebody help me ? I can't run a xx.bin file. I tried to write xx.bin in terminal or ./xx.bin but it says No such file or directory
[11:43] <dr_willis> what IS it doing exactly
[11:43] <OerHeks> abraham, wat gives " cat /etc/issue  "
[11:44] <dr_willis> noev:  check the spelling and make sure its executable
[11:44] <abraham_> 0 not blahblahblah upgraded
[11:44] <abraham_> sigh
[11:44] <dr_willis> abraham_:  and what does....
[11:44] <dr_willis> lsb_release -a      say about  the version?
[11:44] <Guest14042> In resolv.conf line "search home" what means ?
[11:44] <Pazzie> bekks: ?
[11:45] <abraham_> I have 12.04.1
[11:45] <abraham_> ops
[11:45] <abraham_> oops
[11:45] <dr_willis> i said earlier. :) if you update/upgraded.. then you got it...
[11:45] <OerHeks> abraham, we thought so.
[11:45] <tcstar> hey all having some ubuntu 12.04 issues (permissions perhaps? i dunno)...  I installed lamp-server using apt-get install lamp-server^ that works fine...  i installed curl:  apt-get install curl and apt-get install php5-curl...  however, when i run this in my /var/www folder:  curl http://getcomposer.org/installer | php it outputs this error:  Download failed: failed to open stream: Permission denied
[11:45] <abraham_> Slap in the face
[11:45] <tcstar> any ideas how to fix it?  it does it using sudo in front of the curl command too
[11:45] <Dynamit> what is the respond when you write uname -a?
[11:46] <noev> dr_willis: spelling is correct , and how do I make sure it's executable?
[11:46] <abraham_> 12.10 is nearly here
[11:46] <Dynamit> that question was for abraham_
[11:46] <dr_willis> !permissions | noev
[11:46] <abraham_> the beta 1 is here
[11:46] <dr_willis> noev:  chmod +x foo.bin
[11:46] <Dynamit> ;)
[11:47] <abraham_> Hello?
[11:47] <dr_willis> Yes?
[11:47] <bekks> abraham_: Please refer to #ubuntu+1 until 12.10 is officially released :)
[11:48] <abraham_> ok
[11:48] <dr_willis> was there another support question? ;)
[11:48] <Dynamit> abraham if you want the beta then count with solve problem as it's a Beta
[11:49] <Pazzie> anyone else here who can help me out with gparted?
[11:49] <Eagleman> Where are the webmin configguration files saved?
[11:49] <bekks> Pazzie: You cant use gparted to resize lvm pv.
[11:49] <zykotick9> !webmin | Eagleman
[11:49] <stefg> Hi Room! Running 12.04 i want to disable jack-sensing/speaker mute when inserting headphones. In 10.04 it worked that way (it wasn't a bug, it was a feature!), and i'd like 12.04 to behave the same way. after googling around i can't seem to find anything putting me on the right track. Is this an alsa or a pulse audio setting?
[11:49] <Eagleman> I want to restore from a previous backup
[11:49] <bekks> Pazzie: You have to do it manually.
[11:49] <Pazzie> bekks: okay.... how?
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  how did you backup?
[11:49] <kisom> Guys, how do I configure Ubuntu Server to access a WPA network with mschapv2? Google turns out nothing useful for me...
[11:49] <bazhang> Eagleman, webmin is not supported. get zentyal
[11:49] <Jonii> noev: to execute a file, you need to use full path of the file, for example, typing the full path /some/thing/foo.bin or go to the directory it is using cd command, then use ./foo.bin
[11:49] <Dynamit> I run webmin on 12.04.1 LTS and it's working for me
[11:50] <bekks> Pazzie: I already told you. You have to use a terminal.
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> kisom  there's also the channel #ubuntu-server
[11:50] <Dynamit> but I hade it before 12.04.1 LTS too
[11:50] <zykotick9> !wfm | Dynamit ;)
[11:50] <stefg> !sound
[11:50] <Pazzie> bekks: sorry i have missed that
[11:50] <noev> dr_willis: thanks for the info I aprecciate
[11:50] <kisom> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I'll check there
[11:50] <iceroot> !webmin | Dynamit
[11:50] <Dynamit> LoL ubottu have got bonkers
[11:50] <Dynamit> same text twice
[11:51] <Pazzie> bekks: can you tell me again? use the terminal from gparted? (or do i need to use the terminal from the server)
[11:51] <noev> Jonii: one more thing i can't remember the command which tells me my current path
[11:51] <quesada> after upgrating to kernel 3.2.20, the keyboard input just disappeared. both laptop and external keyboard. on a new session, it works. Ways to debug? workaround?
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> Dynamit  it's because ubottu is an automatic script
[11:51] <Dynamit> then it's a bad script
[11:51] <Eagleman> Any replacement for webmin?
[11:51] <dr_willis> noev:  its in the default promopt. or  'pwd'   print working directory
[11:51] <dr_willis> !ebox
[11:51] <stefg> !webmon
[11:51] <Dynamit> it should see what it have done for xx sec. atleast
[11:51] <stefg> !webmin
[11:51] <Pazzie> Eagleman: ebox
[11:51] <iceroot> quesada: there is no official 3.2.20
[11:52] <Jonii> noev: your terminal should show your current path as a prefix to the line your typing your commands to, using $ as a shorthand for your home directory
[11:52] <Eagleman> ebox is Zentyal?
[11:52] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  it is now..
[11:52] <iceroot> quesada: 3.2.0-30 is the current stable ubuntu kernel
[11:52] <Pazzie> Eagleman: yes, and its much better
[11:52] <Eagleman> and why?
[11:52] <Jonii> wait, ~ as shorthand for that
[11:53] <dr_willis> ~ = /home/yourusername
[11:54] <Eagleman> Why is zentyal better than webmin?
[11:54] <zykotick9> Jonii: $ at the prompt means you are a regular users, while # means root (something you shouldn't see in ubuntu)
[11:55] <Jonii> zykotick9: yeah
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  best way to find out, is by using it
[11:55] <iceroot> Eagleman: because webmin is not able to handle ubuntu package configuration
[11:55] <Eagleman> well i dont have an option so i will :P
[11:55] <iceroot> Eagleman: but the best is ssh + the editor of your choice + your brain instead of a webgui to manage a server
[11:55] <zykotick9> iceroot: +1
[11:56] <noev> Jonnii: /home/user/Downloads/xx.bin tells me no such file or directory am I still not getting it ?
[11:56] <dr_willis> #1 reson zentyal is better then webmin.. its officialy supported here.
[11:56] <Eagleman> iceroot i know how to use all of that
[11:56] <iceroot> Eagleman: then use ssh + editor and dont use the webgui
[11:56] <Dynamit> iceroot: 1+ but some are too lazy or have others that need to be able to configure there part
[11:56] <hfic> how do I list groups?
[11:56] <Eagleman> it is usefull to have in some situations
[11:56] <iceroot> Dynamit: others?
[11:56] <dr_willis> noev:  cd to the directory, ls -l xx.bin and look at the ownership/permissions, then file xx.bin and see what kind of file it is.
[11:56] <jrib> hfic: groups your user is in or all groups?
[11:56] <tomreyn> hfic: getent group
[11:56] <iceroot> Dynamit: like people hoe dont know what they are doing?
[11:57] <iceroot> Dynamit: i guess you see the mistake
[11:57] <hfic> jrib, both if you gottem
[11:57] <Eagleman> Well if we all know everything there would not be a #ubuntu channel...
[11:57] <jrib> hfic: tomreyn's command for all groups.  Just « groups » for groups your user is in
[11:57] <Dynamit> iceroot: like people that have not so big computer habbit, let's say you hosts webserver for others to
[11:58] <iceroot> Dynamit: never ever in your whole life manage a public server if you dont know what you are doing
[11:58] <zykotick9> noev: you might want to see if it's a 32bit binary on a 64bit OS.  "file xx.bin" and check for 32bit elf, and use "uname -m" to see if you are running 64bit OS - it could also give you the "no such" error
[11:58] <beboj> guys can you recommend some internal pci e modem card with 4g lte under ubuntu ???
[11:58] <iceroot> Dynamit: that should only people do which know what they are doing and they dont need a webgui
[11:58] <Eagleman> You will never leaarn it if you never do it...
[11:58] <Dynamit> not the host
[11:58] <Dynamit> baaa
[11:58] <iceroot> Eagleman: but please dont learn on a public server
[11:58] <Dynamit> the user to make it easy for them
[11:59] <Eagleman> iceroot its only a home server
[11:59] <iceroot> Eagleman: then everything is fine
[11:59] <Eagleman> just testing ans learning stuff
[11:59] <Eagleman> and
[11:59] <Eagleman> And a webgui is the last thing in my documentation
[11:59] <Pikmin> so guys, i got this test machine running ubuntu server, libvirt and win2008, want to bridge the network but need to clarify something
[11:59] <Eagleman> i''ve configured everything using VI and SSH till now
[12:00] <noev> zykotick9:  ELF 32-bit LSB executable i'm running a 64bit machine
[12:00] <stefg> Any alsa/audio guru able to tell me how to get sound of headphones and speakers at the same time? My aplay -L output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192555/
[12:00] <iceroot> Eagleman: sounds good, its a good way to learn the system
[12:00] <dr_willis> noev:  i think you found the issue
[12:01] <Eagleman> I am planning to run it on esxi thats why i am reconfiguring everything on vmware now, so i can switch easily to esxi
[12:01] <zykotick9> noev: 64bit machine or 64bit os - they aren't the same thing.  i can't really help further I'm affraid, i don't know how multiarch works... best of luck.
[12:01] <mbutubuntu> hey guys I've a problem with ath9k_htc driver... loading it in the kernel returns: ath9k_htc: Firmware - htc_9271.fw download failed (even If I've that bin in /lib/firmware)
[12:01] <noev> dr_willis: yea, thanks for your help guys
[12:02] <Eagleman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal seems oputdated
[12:02] <noev> zykotick9: yea i meant 64bit OS, anyways thanks for the help :)
[12:02] <mathi> hi
[12:02] <Eagleman> i dont have to use the Universe repository
[12:03] <mathi> I would like the menu to be alwyas visible on the left, instead, when i'm not hovering it, after a second it hides
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> !info zentyal
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hey All
[12:04] <tomreyn> mathi: are you referring to the unity shell?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> !info ebox
[12:04] <mathi> tomreyn, to the interface
[12:04] <mathi> tomreyn, on the left I have my opened applications
[12:04] <tomreyn> mathi: i don't have it running here now but you should be able to set this up in preferences -> appearance
[12:04] <Eagleman> hmm
[12:05] <Eagleman> ebox was included 133 packages and was around 100mb large
[12:05] <Eagleman> was included...
[12:05] <mathi> tomreyn, right. strange, auto-hide was already off, I had to put on and off again to make it off :|
[12:06] <tomreyn> Eagleman: as the name says, 'ebox' is a transition package.
[12:06] <tomreyn> mathi: that's special. normally in IT, it's the other way around ;-)
[12:06] <zaggynl> hi, ubuntu 12.04 gets stuck at boot, hub 2-1 port 2 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling has shown up twice now, any clues what's happening?
[12:07] <mathi> tomreyn, :)) I also thinks these icons are too big, do you know how to make them smaller??
[12:07] <Eagleman> During the installation you will be asked to supply a password for the ebox user. After installing eBox the web interface can be accessed from: https://yourserver/ebox.
[12:07] <Eagleman> That did not happen
[12:08] <MrNaz> if i have a script that contains a sequence of commands, all of which require sudo privs, is there a way to ensure that the whole script gets sudo and i wont get the pass prompt againm, even if the script takes a long time to execute?
[12:08] <mathi> I googled, seems i need to isntall an application
[12:08] <tomreyn> zaggynl: there's something wrong with a USB device you have attached. unplug them one by one (or all for startters, then re-plug them one by one and reboot each time) to single out the problematic device.
[12:08] <tomreyn> zaggynl: this could be due to lack of power on the USB hub you have there.
[12:08] <jrib> MrNaz: run: sudo the_script    I suppose
[12:09] <tomreyn> mathi: personally i consider the unity interface to be a fatal mistake, so i haven't been using it lately and don't know much about whether such options are now available. they wer enot on the first release (unless when you edited configuration files/ databases).
[12:10] <zaggynl> thanks tomreyn
[12:10] <zaggynl> its a wireless usb mouse plug
[12:10] <mathi> tomreyn, what are you using then?
[12:10] <zaggynl> it does work a second boot
[12:10] <rymate1234> I like unity IMO
[12:10] <tomreyn> mathi: xubuntu, so xfwm and xfce
[12:10] <rymate1234> However I still prefer MATE (fork fork of gnome 2)
[12:11] <mathi> tomreyn, ah, I didn't know I could isntall other interfaces :(((((, I can still switch ???
[12:11] <tomreyn> zaggynl: do you have an usb extender or a monitor which works as a usb hub?
[12:11] <rymate1234> mathi, you can install them from the ubuntu software centre, then choose it at logj by clicking the cog
[12:12] <tomreyn> mathi: yes you can always switch. you can also install multiple and switch between them by logging off and on again
[12:12] <rymate1234> *login
[12:12] <mathi> thnk you i'll try:)
[12:12] <tomreyn> mathi: xubuntu-desktop would be the package to install if you want the xubuntu interface in addition to unity
[12:12] <bekks> Pazzie: You have to start a livecd, and use a terminal from the livecd. Before, you have to get familiar with the commands pvresize, vgextend, lvresize, and the command to resize your filesystem. AND you have to create a complete backup of your computer.
[12:13] <leotr> hi! i have a problem. mouse poiter doesn't react immediately after i move mouse (i have a lag and it's not comfortable), the same is about keyboard - when i start typing fast some letters are not typed :(
[12:13] <mathi> tomreyn, is it more light ? cause unity is a bit slow
[12:13] <tomreyn> yes mathi. if unity is slow then unity2d but you like it generally then unity2d would be a good compromise
[12:14] <Eagleman> I cant even login in ebox
[12:14] <tomreyn> leotr: how are they powered?
[12:14] <Eagleman> using the username ebox and changed his password with passwd
[12:14] <leotr> tomreyn: both are usb
[12:14] <tomreyn> leotr: so not wireless?
[12:15] <tomreyn> leotr: i.e. there are no batteires in your mouse or keyboard?
[12:15] <leotr> tomreyn: mouse is wireless but i'm sure battery is ok, because this problem started after i installed new videocard geforce 210
[12:16] <leotr> before it i had integrated ati videocard
[12:17] <tomreyn> leotr: it's good you provided this additional information. so you may have a driver issue related to the geforce 210
[12:17] <hfic> syslog displays kernel: [14352.557450] init: vsftpd respawning too fast, stopped . It was working fine as a fresh install.. now I get this error ........aaagain
[12:17] <tomreyn> leotr: check "dmesg | tail" and /var/log/messages for error messages
[12:18] <leotr> tomreyn, just a moment
[12:18] <tomreyn> leotr: correction: check "dmesg | tail" and /var/log/syslog for error messages
[12:19] <Costeelation> guys
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> hfic: is there a possibility to use sftp?
[12:19] <Costeelation> what is the command for reinstall grub2? :)
[12:19] <Pazzie> bekks: how can i access my local volume through the live cd?
[12:19] <Costeelation> a recheck
[12:19] <tomreyn> hfic: vsftpd is having trouble to start. try starting it manually, running it in the foreground, and inspect its log files.
[12:20] <Pazzie> bekks: i opend the terminal, but it seems to be the filesystem from the live cd
[12:20] <hfic> ActionParsnip, never tried that program
[12:20] <tomreyn> Pazzie: by "local volume" you mean existing partitions on your hard disk drive?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Costeelation: sudo apt-get --reinstall grub-common grub-pc grub2-common
[12:20] <Pazzie> tomreyn: yes
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> hfic: its secure, nautilus can connect to it easily as well
[12:20] <SpecialEd> Does anyone know hot to force Ubuntu 12.04 from localtime to UTC using terminal?
[12:21] <hfic> tomreyn, what do you mean manually? I'm doing sudo service vsftpd restart.
[12:21] <tomreyn> Pazzie: how were those partitions created? on ubuntu?
[12:21] <SpecialEd> its a vps
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> hfic: its especially good if you want access over WAN as it is secure unlike FTP
[12:21] <BluesKaj> !tzdata  | SpecialEd
[12:22] <hfic> ActionParsnip, Is it a protocol as in secure ftp , or is it actually a ftp server?
[12:22] <Pazzie> tomreyn: the first disk i created with ubuntu and the other disks i partitioned with webmin
[12:22] <Costeelation> ActionParsnip, this command reinstall grub in my actual partition?
[12:22] <tomreyn> hfic: i'm suggesting that you read "man vsftpd" and "which vsftpd" and possibly "vsftpd --help" and then run vsftpd bypassing the init scripts
[12:22] <leotr> tomreyn: http://dpaste.com/798159/ here is my dmesg. there is something related to nvidia.
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> hfic: if you install openssh-server you get an SFTP server by default. It is secure ftp
[12:22] <BluesKaj> !info tzdata
[12:22] <Eagleman> During the installation you will be asked to supply a password for the ebox user. After installing eBox the web interface can be accessed from: https://yourserver/ebox.
[12:22] <Eagleman> I cant even login in ebox
[12:22] <Pazzie> tomreyn: here is the screenshot: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2185/screenshotoj.jpg
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Costeelation: it will pull in the grub packages and rerun update-grub
[12:22] <Eagleman> using the username ebox and changed his password with passwd
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Costeelation: if you need to install grub to the MBR then it won't do that afaik
[12:23] <AminosAmigos> !info
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Costeelation: you can do that with: sudo grub-install /dev/sda      assumin /dev/sda is the bootable HDD
[12:24] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: hi again, sorry if i'm annoying but i redownloaded iso and it's still doesn't match the hash on the site? the hash i get is MD5 (ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso) = 06472ddf11382c8da1f32e9487435c3d
[12:24] <zykotick9> Michelle_: consider using a torrent, it has error correction
[12:24] <Costeelation> ActionParsnip, i install grub in sda5, then sudo grub-install /dev/sda5 is correct?
[12:25] <Costeelation> sda5 is a partition into the hdd
[12:25] <CQWW> Arm
[12:25] <CQWW> ?
[12:25] <Pazzie> tomreyn: are you still here?
[12:25] <Michelle_> zykotick9: okey thanks
[12:26] <leotr> tomreyn, http://dpaste.com/798160/ this is my syslog | grep nv
[12:26] <bekks> Pazzie: Again: you CANNOT resize LVM using gparted.
[12:26] <tomreyn> Pazzie: /dev/sda5 is an lvm physical volume. you will need to setup lvm, start with lvmdiskscan, it should also report it is a physical volume for lvm. then use pvs, vgs, lvs
[12:26] <tomreyn> bekks: is this what Pazzie's trying to do?
[12:27] <Pazzie> bekks: yes i know that now, i was just giving tomreyn  the information
[12:27] <oal> I just ran "chsh -s /bin/zsh" to change my shell to zsh, but when I open a new terminal, I still get the old default. Do I have to reboot?
[12:27] <Pazzie> tomreyn: i want to resize my "root" partition and extend it with 5GB but i have know idea how
[12:27] <tomreyn> leotr: this looks perfectly normal. which driver are you using?
[12:27] <dr_willis> oal:  perhaps log out completely
[12:28] <oal> dr_willis: ok, will try
[12:28] <Pazzie> tomreyn: bekks helped me a bit, but i am stuck now
[12:28] <zaggynl> how bad of an idea was it to set raid 10 rebuild rate to 300000K/sec
[12:28] <compdoc> BluesKaj, but what do you do with tzdata?
[12:28] <bekks> tomreyn: Exactly.
[12:29] <bekks> Pazzie: You were given all commands you have to use, and the information taht you have to create a backup before. I doubt you did it until now :)
[12:29] <oal> dr_willis: perfect, that worked
[12:29] <unkrr> hey there is a problem i m facing with loopback adapter and vmware
[12:30] <unkrr> i m unable to bridge my loopback adapter with the vmware any suggestions??
[12:30] <jakeR333> is there caching function in ubuntu? like when you start a program it will cache some of it in the PC memory ?
[12:30] <tomreyn> Pazzie: then i suggest you either invest some hours on reading up on what LVM is and how it works as an additional storage device layer, and look into how resiing file systems works manually. or, probably your better option since it will be faster and less error prone,  make a backup and reinstall.
[12:30] <zykotick9> !atemyram | jakeR333 YES
[12:30] <dr_willis> jakeR333:  it does that automatically yes
[12:30] <bekks> unkrr: It is nonsense to bridge the loopback adapter :)
[12:30] <Pazzie> bekks: i dont need to created a backup, if the system is broke i simply reinstall the system ;) but since a reinstall is the easy solution
[12:31] <unkrr> bekks i need it to do
[12:31] <Eagleman> How do i login in ebox?
[12:31] <leotr> tomreyn: how can i exactly find out info on which driver is used?
[12:31] <unkrr> bekks: if u have the solution plz let me know
[12:31] <OerHeks> !ebox
[12:31] <Eagleman> Wont work
[12:32] <Psi-Jack> Eagleman: Yes it does.
[12:32] <jakeR333> dr_willis a fresh ubuntu start is 120MB.. after a day of use i close all programs and the RAM consumption is 160MB
[12:32] <bekks> unkrr: Why would you need that - the loopback interface will not provide any communication between your host and guest.
[12:32] <leotr> tomreyn, btw i think that acceleration works on my computer because window animations are smooth
[12:32] <dr_willis> jakeR333:  so?
[12:32] <Eagleman> During the installation you will be asked to supply a password for the ebox user.
[12:32] <Eagleman> did not happen
[12:32] <jakeR333> so i want to understand what's causing this
[12:32] <tomreyn> leotr: sorry, should have told you. based on the output on the pastebin you are using a proprietary driver, i.e. probably fglrx. i suggest you use the open source nouveau driver for now just to see whether it fixes the issues with the input device latency.
[12:33] <Psi-Jack> Eagleman: It uses regular user accounts., So, yes, yes it does work.
[12:33] <dr_willis> zentyal install here asked for about 4 differnt passwords, and other settings
[12:33] <jakeR333> is it a memory leadk or a features in ubuntu.. i had to patch metacity with unoffical update because it kept taking memory up to 190MB
[12:33] <dr_willis> but that was for things like ldap, and ddclient ;)
[12:33] <BluesKaj> compdoc, tzdata :
[12:33] <BluesKaj> This package contains data required for the implementation of standard local time for many representative locations around the globe. It is updated periodically to reflect changes made by political bodies to time zone boundaries, UTC offsets, and daylight-saving rules.
[12:33] <jakeR333> now after i patched it it never go above 3MB
[12:33] <tomreyn> leotr: you can switch to nouveau by running: jockey-gtk
[12:33] <unkrr> bekks: i need it for the NETWORKING process  can't explain it to you in words
[12:33] <Eagleman> Well during  apt-get install ebox nothing was asked, only if i wanted to proceed
[12:33] <bekks> unkrr: vmware never needed things like that. :)
[12:34] <leotr> tomreyn: i thought that proprietary is faster, anyway i don't play games so i don't need 3d much ^) will try nouveau
[12:34] <Psi-Jack> Eagleman: See #zentyal for support then.
[12:34] <unkrr> bekks: it happens in windows for your information
[12:34] <tomreyn> leotr: there, you just need to disable the nvida drivers, then reboot (logging out and in again _may_ also be sufficient)
[12:34] <unkrr> bekks: if you know the solution plz tell otherwise no problem
[12:34] <tomreyn> leotr: this is just to find out whether it's a hardware or driver (software) issue.
[12:34] <zykotick9> tomreyn: fyi to disable nvidia, a reboot WOULD be required
[12:35] <leotr> tomreyn: ok, thanks, will try it
[12:35] <tomreyn> zykotick9: doesn't X get restarted and unload the module when you log off?
[12:35] <zykotick9> tomreyn: kernel drivers certainly are not
[12:35] <dr_willis> tomreyn:  kernel modules. no
[12:35] <Psi-Jack> tomreyn: nvidia uses both a kernel module and X driver.
[12:35] <Pazzie> bekks: thnx for your help, but i will reinstall the system i think that will be quicker ;) and i can configure it better ;)
[12:36] <tomreyn> alright :)
[12:36] <Michelle_> zykotick9: i got same hash when i downloaded via torrent "MD5 (ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso) = 06472ddf11382c8da1f32e9487435c3d"
[12:36] <Pazzie> tomreyn: thnx too
[12:36] <Eagleman> I am logged in now but it is not showing much information
[12:36] <Pazzie> Eagleman: you have to install modules
[12:37] <leotr> tomreyn, sorry i have 2 options in jockey, both are proprietary
[12:37] <tomreyn> leotr: which of them is active (green) already?
[12:37] <zykotick9> Michelle_: i don't see sums for 12.04.1 on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes - what are you comparing against?
[12:37] <leotr> tomreyn: current-updates
[12:38] <tomreyn> leotr: so this is loaded, unlaod it
[12:38] <Michelle_> zykotick9: the iso file "ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso"
[12:38] <zykotick9> Michelle_: but we need to know what the MD5 is suppose to be...
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: looks good
[12:38] <leotr> the second one is just "current" but also proprietary
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: just use the web and search for the hash:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=06472ddf11382c8da1f32e9487435c3d
[12:39] <lief> hi every body!
[12:39] <leotr> tomreyn, changing it to second one
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> hi lief
[12:39] <lief> any math gurus, need help with a vector problem
[12:39] <ikonia> maybe ##maths ?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> lief: greetings
[12:39] <ikonia> rather than #ubuntu
[12:39] <leotr> lief:go to #math
[12:40] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: so it should work now and not ending up with the "loading /casper/vmlinuz?
[12:40] <AminosAmigos> ActionParsnip@ what is the use of .local/share ?
[12:40] <tomreyn> leotr: my suggestion was to uninstall those
[12:40] <leotr> tomreyn, ah, ok
[12:41] <tomreyn> leotr: i.e. the goal would be to not have a green dot there
[12:41] <lief> k will try #math
[12:41] <harry_> hi
[12:41] <tomreyn> leotr: then if that works well you can try installing the non "updates" one and see whether this works, too.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: could use MD5 to test the data on the USB stick, it could be bad. You could burn the ISO to a CD as SLOWLY as possible and boot that
[12:42] <leotr> tomreyn, ok rebooting
[12:42] <surlogics> HELP; is there a way to recover NTFS partition where I might have formatted in to ext3 with mke2fs,I installed ubuntu by wubi in windows7 but cant boot into them; it shows Filesystem type unknown; partition type 0x7
[12:43] <Psi-Jack> surlogics: No.
[12:43] <surlogics> what can I do now; please
[12:43] <dr_willis> wubi wouldent format a whole partition as far as i know
[12:44] <unkr> can anyone tell me how can i create loopback adapter like lo0 ,lo1 ??? not tap0
[12:44] <dr_willis> it makes a ext3 'disk in a file' on the windows drive
[12:44] <surlogics> I have format the 14G sda2
[12:45] <tomreyn> unkr: losetup. but why would you want to?
[12:45] <zykotick9> unkr: do you understand what loopback is?  it's basically useless.
[12:45] <surlogics> I didnt lost any data; but just cant boot into the system. I have installed Mandriva via a disk and can view my files in it
[12:45] <morgan> is there something similar to 'ExtractNow' for ubuntu?
[12:45] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=recover+ntfs+formated+as+ext
[12:46] <Psi-Jack> morgan: No idea what "ExtractNow" is. Maybe you should describe what it is you are looking for, more specifically.
[12:46] <bekks> unkr: What have you done to your ubuntuso there is no loopback adapter anymorE?
[12:46] <unkr> tomreyn: zykotick9 ya i know i will be using adapter with GNS (a networking apps)
[12:46] <unkr> bekks: i want more
[12:46] <surlogics> Im not sure what is lost,perhaps bootup files. So is there anything I can do to make it work again thanks
[12:47] <morgan> Psi-Jack, basically, I'd like to be able to drag/drop a folder or right click the folder, and hit extract, and it will search for all archives in that folder and extract them. ie a folder that has an entire season of a tv show
[12:47]  * Psi-Jack sighs.
[12:47] <Psi-Jack> morgan: Filesystems do not have folders. Laundry rooms have folders. Filesystems have directories.
[12:47] <bekks> unkr: you dont need more. Never. For nothing. They are basically useless.
[12:47] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: i got a cd-r 700mb and the iso is 728mb, can i still burn to it?
[12:47] <dr_willis> surlogics:  if you trashed the windows 'boot' partition. I would ask in #windows about how to recvover it.
[12:47] <Psi-Jack> morgan: I also will not help someone that's obviously involved in piracy. Sorry.
[12:47] <bekks> unkr: Use a host-only adapter if you need a host-guest-communication.
[12:47] <dr_willis> surlogics:  i would be backing up inporntant data now however...
[12:47] <cfhowlett> surlogics: yep..sounds like a boot recovery issue.
[12:48] <leotr> tomreyn, rebooted, both are grey now. Still have the issue
[12:48] <unkr> bekks: let it go i have the use of
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: should be ok afaik
[12:48] <Eagleman> How do i revert:  apt-get install -y python-software-properties && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zentyal/2.2 && sudo apt-get update  ?
[12:48] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[12:48] <alex_> Morgan: You cud use something like $ unzip /dir/*.zip
[12:48] <unkr> bekks: pm
[12:48] <unkr> ??
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: if you install ppa-purge  you can remove PPAs
[12:48] <bekks> unkr: I am supporting in here only :)
[12:48] <tuffgong> hi all
[12:49] <dr_willis> morgan:  or  unzip '*.zip'
[12:49] <unkr> bekks: no problem thnx for your help
[12:49] <dr_willis> unzip *.zip causes the shell to expand the *  using the '*.zip' tells unzip to use the wildcard
[12:50] <tomreyn> leotr: okay that's good to know. now chances are your new video card is not seated correctly or is broken (as in hardware). there could be other reasons, such as a bios bug (i.e. bios update needed) or something else. we can try to narrow it down further, but this will involve working on the shell now. is this ok with you?
[12:51] <morgan> they are .rar not zip D:
[12:51] <surlogics> I had backed up my data, and I just spoiled a small partition, I hope there is a way to format the spoiled partion back to normal again, but I do not know what it should contain
[12:52] <Eagleman> how do i complete remove a package
[12:52] <dr_willis> surlogics:  if it was the windows boot partiton, then there should be ways from a windows cd to repair/remake it.
[12:52] <Guest39619> can any help me out to con figure epson laser jet cx17nf all in one in ubuntu 12.04
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Eagleman: sudo apt-get purge foo.deb
[12:52] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  apt-get  has a purge option.
[12:52] <surlogics> # df -h  /dev/sda7 12G 9.8G 1.5G 88% / /dev/sda2 15G 165M 14G 2% /media/logical /dev/sda6 119G 88G 32G 74% /media/2C9E85319E84F51C /dev/sda5 118G 59G 60G 50% /media/D25A6DDE5A6DBFB9 /dev/sda9 100G 188M 100G 1% /media/ae69134a-a65e-488f-ae7f-150d1b5e36a6 /dev/sda1 100M 122K 100M 1% /media/DELLUTILITY /dev/sda3 98G 81G 17G 83% /media/OS   # fdisk /dev/sda Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 
[12:52] <tomreyn> Eagleman: sudo apt-get purge <packagename>
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !paste|surlogics:
[12:52] <surlogics> thanks
[12:52] <leotr> tomreyn, yes, sure. I'm even ready to reinstall ubuntu if it's possible to do it without using external media
[12:52] <Guest39619>  can any help me out to con figure epson laser jet cx17nf all in one in ubuntu 12.0
[12:53] <bekks> !patience | Guest39619
[12:53] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: i couldn't burn a 726mb iso to cd, but can i use the 32-bit os on 64-bit harddrive?
[12:53] <Michelle_> hardware*
[12:54] <tomreyn> leotr: pretty surely reinstalling ubuntu won't do any good there unless you have an inconsistent system because you installed non-supported and badly packaged or non-packaged software.
[12:54] <Guest39619> beeks ubottu @ i have already done that but i did not got the solution
[12:54] <Guest39619> how to install this model of printer
[12:54] <tomreyn> leotr: please install this package: pastebinit
[12:55] <zorgborg> can anyone help me figure out how to use 7z/7zr/7za to just extract a .exe file?
[12:55] <bekks> Guest39619: Please be patient and dont repeat your issue in a 50s delay :)
[12:55] <tomreyn> leotr: (sudo apt-get install pastebinit). this package allows you to sned output form a terminal right ontp a pastebin, a web page which you can post text to.
[12:55] <Michelle_> hey guys, do you know if i can use 32-bit os on a 64-bit hardware?
[12:56] <ryu39619> bekks@ you have the solution for my query
[12:56] <leotr> tomreyn, ok, i'm doing it.
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Michelle_: yes you can
[12:56] <Michelle_> ok
[12:56] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | leotr
[12:56] <Michelle_> :)
[12:56] <leotr> tomreyn, done
[12:56] <Sosuke593> Hello
[12:56] <surlogics> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192647/
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Sosuke593: greetings
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: there are no 64bit hard drives
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: they don't have architectures
[12:57] <surlogics> Sorry I am not familiar with the system and the keyboard was not set correctly
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: you can use 32bit OS on a 64bit CPU
[12:57] <bekks> ryu39619: No. I just proposed to be more patient.
[12:57] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: so i don't need to worry about it?
[12:57] <tomreyn> leotr: okay now please do this: lsmod | pastebinit; lspci -knnv | grep -A 10 VGA | pastebinit
[12:58] <surlogics> I do not have a windows boot disk at hand, can I use some tools
[12:58] <tomreyn> leotr: please post the URLs you'll be given here
[12:58] <cfhowlett> surlogics: pretty sure windows will need an MBR partition table - which tops out at 4 primary parts.  You've got 9.  Expect unforeseen consequences.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Michelle_: if you are just using the OS to web browse and chat etc you wil be fine with 32bit
[12:58] <cfhowlett> surlogics: ask in #windows.  Nothing we can do with it here.
[12:58] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: okey
[12:58] <ryu39619> any one has the solution of my query
[12:58] <surlogics> ok, thank you
[12:58] <leotr> tomreyn: 1) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192649/
[12:58] <Michelle_> ActionParsnip: but it doesn't damage/brick or something right?
[12:59] <ryu39619> plz i need help
[12:59] <leotr> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192651/
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !patience|ryu39619:
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ryu39619: what is the issue please? I can't find your question
[13:00] <Laserebeak> Hello
[13:01] <Laserebeak> I've been trying to get sound running on a new install of edubuntu
[13:01] <Laserebeak> aplay -l
[13:01] <Laserebeak> aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[13:01] <Laserebeak> could someone please help?
[13:01] <ryu39619> ubottu@if you not know the then some else will help me but do not given me the same URL becasue i have alrady gone throught it. but i did not got any solution from there ? if can i help i will be very thanks full to u
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Laserebeak: greetings
[13:01] <Laserebeak> hello cfhowlett
[13:01] <quesada> iceroot: I meant that kernel
[13:01] <tomreyn> leotr: you're still running the (closed source) nvidia driver. let's try to get nouveau working.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ryu39619: what is the issue please? I can't find your question
[13:02] <quesada> why would I stop having keyboard input?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> Laserebeak: sorry, sound issues are not my thing, but your question has been noted...
[13:02] <tomreyn> leotr: can you verify you have no green dots in jockey-gtk ?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> quesada: keyuboard module unoladed could be one reason
[13:02] <leotr> tomreyn, just a moment
[13:02] <quesada> ActionParsnip: how do I check that?
[13:02] <Laserebeak> cfhowlett: thanks for your concern. is there a place more suited for getting help with this issue?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> quesada: run:  lsmod   in a terminal
[13:03] <ryu39619> ActionParsnip@can any help me out to con figure epson laser jet cx17nf all in one in ubuntu 12.04
[13:03] <quesada> ActionParsnip: can't. No keyboard :)
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Laserebeak: possibly #ubuntustudio for the sound issue but keep checking back here.
[13:03] <leotr> tomreyn, yes, both of them are grey
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ryu39619: did you check the open printing website?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> quesada: you can do it
[13:03] <Laserebeak> cfhowlett: thanks
[13:03] <ryu39619> ActionParsnip@i have check it
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> quesada: you just need onboard, you can type with the mouse
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ryu39619: and...?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ryu39619: is it know to work..not work..?
[13:04] <quesada> ActionParsnip: which module am I looking for?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> quesada: how does the keyboard connect to the system?
[13:05] <quesada> ActionParsnip: usb
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> quesada: usbhid
[13:05] <quesada> but it's a lappy, have normal kb on it too
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> quesada: you could always unload then reload the module
[13:05] <quesada> mouse works
[13:05] <tomreyn> leotr: do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:05] <quesada> ActionParsnip: usb mouse
[13:06] <tomreyn> leotr: run this command in a terminal to find out: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:06] <ryu39619> ActionParsnipit @does support linx
[13:06] <ryu39619> i have aleady search in the url
[13:07] <tomreyn> leotr: if it says "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" instead of returning an error message then do this: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig
[13:07] <leotr> tomreyn, no, there is no xorg.cof
[13:07] <leotr> conf*
[13:07] <tomreyn> leotr: ok. you did reboot after you removed all the drivers from jockey-gtk, right?
[13:08] <leotr> tomreyn: i tried to switch to second proprietary driver but after reboot both of them became grey
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> quesada: if it works, it can be used
[13:08] <quesada> ActionParsnip: I mean it can't be usb
[13:09] <Sicp> is it easy to setup my own image of Ubuntu?
[13:09] <Sicp> with all of my favorite packages installed and everything (ppa's, etc..)?
[13:09] <tomreyn> leotr: before we started to work on this, did you download and install the nvidia drivers from some website?
[13:10] <leotr> tomreyn: no, i didn't
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !rmastersys|Sicp
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Sicp: yes.  rmastersys is the package you want IIRC
[13:10] <quesada> ActionParsnip: keyboard works on TTY
[13:10] <quesada> so it must be something x related
[13:11] <quesada> I'm using awesomewm
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> quesada: ahh, nice catch
[13:11] <liquidjamm> can anyone help troubleshoot chrooting?
[13:11] <quesada> but I've never seen it dropping keyboard input
[13:12] <tomreyn> leotr: ok, please run: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current
[13:12] <quesada> ActionParsnip: any idea how to continue debugging?
[13:12] <quesada> I could restart X
[13:12] <excervo> liquidjamn, what is your concern in chroot?
[13:12] <tomreyn> leotr: then run: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current-updates
[13:12] <quesada> but if this happens again, I'll be very very concerned
[13:13] <leotr> ok
[13:13] <leotr> doing it
[13:13] <quesada> to the point of dropping ubuntu, maybe linux, forever
[13:13] <abraham__> Helo
[13:13] <abraham__> Hello
[13:13] <cfhowlett> abraham: greetings
[13:13] <abraham__> How do you turn on Compiz Fusion on Ubuntu 12.04.1
[13:14] <quesada> ActionParsnip: it also works on lightdm
[13:14] <quesada> could be the wm
[13:14] <abraham__> Hello?
[13:15] <abraham__> How do you turn on Compiz Fusion on Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS?
[13:15] <leotr> tomreyn: did it. Should i reboot now?
[13:15] <liquidjamm> excervo, I followed http://library.linode.com/security/sftp-jails but daemon fails to come up after changes
[13:15] <tomreyn> !patience | abraham__
[13:15] <dedleg> compiz --replace
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> quesada: try the 2D version of Unity
[13:15] <quesada> I'm using kde + awesomewm
[13:15] <quesada> :)
[13:16] <excervo> liquidjamn, let me check
[13:16] <tomreyn> leotr: not just yet. please do this first: dpkg -l nvidia\* | pastebinit
[13:16] <liquidjamm> respawining then dies according to syslog
[13:16] <quesada> ubuntu, even in a LTS release, is less stable than I wish for my daily computing
[13:17] <leotr> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192673/
[13:17] <quesada> how are we going to recommend this OS to anyone? it drops keyboard support. Things like this happen to me monthy
[13:17] <tomreyn> quesada: have you tried debian stable then? might be an option.
[13:18] <quesada> tomreyn: might be my only opton
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> quesada  #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions, please
[13:19] <leotr> quesada, take it easy, everything's gonna be allright
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> never had an issue
[13:19]  * ActionParsnip is even using Quantal since A2 and its been pretty decent
[13:20] <freddddiiiiii> I am having a simple issue. I have made the top Unity bar 100% transparent, all good, but when the menu fades out, it will appear as black text behind it: http://ompldr.org/vZmV1aQ/ubuntu-black-text-issue-on-full-transparancy.png
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> freddddiiiiii  use myUnity
[13:20] <freddddiiiiii> MonkeyDust, what setting do I need to adjust?
[13:20] <i7c> will it ever be fixed that auto-completion (tab) does not work after sudo etc... really annoying bug
[13:20] <freddddiiiiii> I just tried MyUnity and I could not find anything to resolve it.
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> freddddiiiiii  explore it a bit, i don't like/use unity myself
[13:21] <freddddiiiiii> MonkeyDust, no option in there, already did.
[13:21] <freddddiiiiii> MonkeyDust, what do you use, shell?
[13:21] <cyberusr> When is ubuntu 12.10 be out?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: tried ubuntu-tweak from PPA
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> freddddiiiiii  ubuntu classic, no effects
[13:21] <i7c> cyberusr: middle/end of october
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> cyberusr: look at the version number
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> cyberusr: and think :)
[13:21] <cyberusr> Thanks!
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> cyberusr: the version numbers are extremely logical
[13:22] <Darkenvy> Hello
[13:22] <cfhowlett> Darkenvy: greetings
[13:22] <blackshirt> hello darkenvy
[13:22] <Darkenvy> Im running 12.04 ; Why is flash incredibly slow and has low performance?
[13:22] <cyberusr> Hehe
[13:22] <Darkenvy> This is less related to flash based videos like youtube (although still applies)
[13:22] <blackshirt> Try to install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'      Thanks
[13:22] <leotr> tomreyn, sorry, some output is in russian :(
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> cyberusr: lets you know when they are out as well as when they are EOL
[13:23] <tomreyn> leotr: it'll be fine
[13:23] <tomreyn> leotr: don't try to translate it
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> cyberusr: rather than just naming them ranndom stuff like other OSes
[13:23] <cyberusr> Thanks !
[13:23] <freddddiiiiii> I am having a simple issue. I have made the top Unity bar 100% transparent, all good, but when the menu fades out, it will appear as black text behind it: http://ompldr.org/vZmV1aQ/ubuntu-black-text-issue-on-full-transparancy.png
[13:23] <tomreyn> leotr: whoops i missed the URL, sorry, looking at it now
[13:23] <Darkenvy> http://pastebin.com/DvScbTsq
[13:24] <Darkenvy> ActionParsnip ^
[13:24] <tomreyn> leotr: ok, so do this: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-settings nvidia-settings-updates nvidia-common
[13:24] <tomreyn> leotr: then reboot
[13:24] <bender> Hello, I have a little problem. I am useing a system rescue cd and would like to reinstall the grub on my ubuntu 12.04. Is there any way to do that? I don-t have a livecd
[13:25] <Darkenvy> blackshirt: "flashplugin-installer is already the newest version."
[13:25] <leotr> tomreyn, ok, doing it, rebooting and will come back
[13:25] <tomreyn> Darkenvy: sudo apt-get purge browser-plugin-gnash
[13:26] <tomreyn> Darkenvy: then restart your web browser
[13:26] <Darkenvy> so Im running two flash plugins at ocne?
[13:26] <tomreyn> Darkenvy: another option is to keep it as it is now and to disable the gnash plugin in your web browser (if it allows you to, firefox does)
[13:27] <tomreyn> Darkenvy: you can only be using one plugin for a single mime type at once, but you currently have two handlers for flash content installed
[13:27] <Darkenvy> That did not help. Purging Gnash
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> bender: sure
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> bender: omgubuntu has a gui called sticking it to grub
[13:28] <blackshirt> darkenvy, flashplugin-nonfree
[13:28] <blackshirt> The nonfree one
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: let me review
[13:29] <Darkenvy> I already have that installed as it is blackshirt
[13:29] <freddddiiiiii> I am having a simple issue. I have made the top Unity bar 100% transparent, all good, but when the menu fades out, it will appear as black text behind it: http://ompldr.org/vZmV1aQ/ubuntu-black-text-issue-on-full-transparancy.png
[13:29] <NeuhNeuh> Hi !
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: sudo apt-get --purge remove browser-plugin-gnash flashplugin-installer gnash gnash-common
[13:29] <sliddjur> If I do a ls -all
[13:29] <NeuhNeuh> I want to enable Compiz on XFCE4, but many solutions offer by Google (and doc ubuntu website) don't work :/
[13:29] <sliddjur> how do i know if its a file or folder?
[13:29] <bender> ActionParsnip, hmm?
[13:29] <tomreyn> blackshirt: the package is called adobe-flashplugin to my knowledge
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin and you will get 64bit flash for your 64bit OS
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> sliddjur  a dolder has a d in front (directory)
[13:30] <tomreyn> blackshirt: that's the one form partner repository.
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> folder*
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> bender: seek and ye shall find
[13:30] <Darkenvy> Apparently its just firefox. Chrome is ULTRA FAST now
[13:30] <blackshirt> sliddjur what you mean ?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: chrome is good like that
[13:30] <sliddjur> blackshirt: i do ls -all /usr/share
[13:31] <sliddjur> aptitude is an app. but apps is a directory
[13:31] <sliddjur> for example
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> sliddjur  a folder has a d in front (directory)
[13:31] <Darkenvy> okay installing adobe-flash
[13:31] <Darkenvy> will I have to disable another handler?
[13:31] <sliddjur> seems like they all do
[13:31] <tomreyn> sliddjur: it's called 'directory', not 'folder'. directories are indicated by a "d" character at the first position on each line of output in ths format
[13:32] <szymon_g> hi
[13:32] <cfhowlett> szymon_g: greetings
[13:32] <leotr> tomreyn, i rebooted. After reboot keyboard and mouse are still laggy. Screen resolution became lower
[13:33] <SpecialEd> I am having some difficulty with installing mysql-server on my Ubuntu 12.04 machine, would anyone be able to give me a hand?  I've been at this for hours, having a really tough time, tried to talk to someone in #mysql and got dragged along by a 13 year old punk kid who must be bored, lol....
[13:33] <Sven_vB> i'm installing ubuntu with ubiquity, and i'm doing it a lot these days because i'm developing utilities for preseeding. one of the most time consuming actions when testing is "retrieving file N or M". can i somehow boost that? i've already set my apt-cacher-ng as http_proxy.
[13:33] <leotr> tomreyn, mouse cursor blinks when windo appears under it
[13:34] <Darkenvy> Well firefox still has a problem
[13:34] <tomreyn> leotr: please run this again: lspci -knnv | grep -A10 VGA | pastebinit
[13:34] <SpecialEd> hello, im having trouble installing mysql-server-5.5 for ubuntu 12.04 i had a previous existance of it on this machine but something went horribly wrong, i backed up my database
[13:34] <SpecialEd> and have completely uninstalled mysql-server-5.5 and mysql-server-client and mysql-server-common and mysql-server i even went to the trouble of purging any file related to mysql from the system, including the docs and man files
[13:34] <leotr> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192709/
[13:34] <SpecialEd> i then do apt-get upgrade apt-get update   -reboot-   then apt-get install mysql-server 5.5 and it fails
[13:34] <SpecialEd> it first asks for a password, i've tried blank and entering in 2 passwords   (tried this whole cycle 3 times in a row) all is well until i get this error:
[13:35] <SpecialEd> An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password, or because of a communication problem with the MySQL server.
[13:35] <Sven_vB> SpecialEd: is it on purpose to run upgrade *after* update than before?
[13:35] <tomreyn> Darkenvy: i suggest you run software-properties-gtk, enable the 'canonical-partner' repository, then run: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> SpecialEd  try #mysql
[13:35] <liquidjamm> can anyone help troubleshoot SFTP jail?
[13:36] <SpecialEd> MonkeyDust: I did, they sent me here
[13:36] <SpecialEd> Sven_vB: not sure what your question is
[13:36] <blackshirt> specialid, check your log said
[13:36] <Darkenvy> tomreyn I did that about 5 minutes ago
[13:36] <tomreyn> leotr: okay you're using the nouveau driver now. since you say the issue with input device lag persists it is most likely a hardware or firmware issue. now we can really start to investigate your log files.
[13:36] <SpecialEd> blackshirt: log file is empty
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> !tab > blackshirt
[13:36] <Darkenvy> my problem is that chrome now runs MUCH faster on flash but firefox is still the same; slow
[13:37] <SpecialEd> blackshirt: for mysql at least
[13:37] <Sven_vB> SpecialEd: usually when i upgrade my software, i do the apt-get update *before* that, so that the 2nd step upgrade then will use the lastest package information
[13:37] <SpecialEd> ok thanks sven
[13:37] <tomreyn> Darkenvy: i didn't notice you telling us about running that.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: cos firefox is lame :)
[13:37] <yeats> SpecialEd: this is when installing via apt-get, yes?  then I wouldn't expect the mysql log to be active yet
[13:37] <Sven_vB> SpecialEd: as to the problem, try to purge mysql. that should remove the password as a part of removing all the mysql config data.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: did you uninstall all the flash handlers and install only adobe-flashplugin?
[13:37] <blackshirt> specialed, what the errors exactly?
[13:38] <SpecialEd> Sven_vB: I've tried with the purge flag
[13:38] <SpecialEd> blackshirt: its above
[13:38] <SnapSnap> Can I change the time server Ubuntu uses to get Internet time?
 An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password, or because of a communication problem with the MySQL server.
 okay installing adobe-flash
[13:38] <Darkenvy> * lousygarua has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
 will I have to disable another handler?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> SnapSnap: I think it's in /etc/ntpd.conf
[13:38] <Sven_vB> oh, then have you testet whether mysql is indeed running on the default port after setup?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: yes, uninstall them as I stated
[13:39] <tomreyn> leotr: please do: sudo cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[13:39] <Darkenvy> I just installed them
[13:39] <Darkenvy> as a prereq for installing it, it make me uninstall the other one
[13:39] <SnapSnap> ActionParsnip, I read that online, but there's no such file in my /etc
[13:39] <SpecialEd> Sven_vB: service mysql status shows not running, as does netstat -lnpt
[13:40] <Darkenvy> removed
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> SnapSnap: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime    has a how to about halfway down for ntp
[13:40] <blackshirt> specialed... have you try to reinstall them?
[13:40] <leotr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192715/
[13:41] <Darkenvy> ITs removed actionparsnip however flash is still going in firefox
[13:41] <tomreyn> leotr: then: sudo /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit; sudo /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit; dmesg | pastebinit
[13:41] <Sven_vB> ok then i'll join MonkeyDust in trying #mysql :)
[13:41] <SpecialEd> blackshirt: yes, as described initially i have 3 times
[13:41] <yeats> SpecialEd: see this Debian thread that has a possible fix http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux/186132-fresh-debian-install-fails-install-mysql.html#post877215
[13:42] <freddddiiiiii> I am having a simple issue. I have made the top Unity bar 100% transparent, all good, but when the menu fades out, it will appear as black text behind it: http://ompldr.org/vZmV1aQ/ubuntu-black-text-issue-on-full-transparancy.png
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: did you close firefox entirely then rerun it
[13:42] <Darkenvy> yes I did
[13:42] <SpecialEd> yeats: yeah, been to that site, tried those steps :(
[13:43] <Darkenvy> I even disabled the shockwave plugin from the firefox settings
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: can you rerun the command I gave and pastebin the text please
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> freddddiiiiii  there's also the channel #unity3d
[13:43] <leotr> tomreyn, syslog -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192715/, Xorg.0.log is empty (, dmesg -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192721/
[13:43] <freddddiiiiii> Ok.
[13:43] <SpecialEd> i remembered it because of the annoying video there lol
[13:43] <Darkenvy> Oh well that setting is gone now.... but I did it before I removed all the flash plugins
[13:43] <Darkenvy> I found a gnash-common too. so I removed that as well
[13:44] <SpecialEd> yeats: still same old problem "An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password, or because of a communication problem with the MySQL server. "
[13:44] <blackshirt> specialed, you can purge it and try to install again your mysql server..you should familiar with apt troubleshootings includes hook to script
[13:44] <SpecialEd> I've been at this for 12 hours now:(
[13:44] <yeats> SpecialEd: how much trouble would it be to reinstall ubuntu and start over?
[13:44] <yeats> (because that would take less than 12 hours)
[13:44] <blackshirt> specialed... I don't know exactly what are trying to do
[13:45] <SpecialEd> blackshirt: thanks, but i've done both "aptitude purge mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server-core-5.1 mysql-client-5.1 " &  "apt-get purge remove mysql-server"   I'm very familiar with apt troubleshootings
[13:45] <SpecialEd> yeats: it'll be a nightmare, but i guess this'll be by my weekend
[13:45] <tomreyn> leotr: sudo ls -t1 /var/log/Xorg.*.log | head -n1 | xargs sudo cat | pastebinit
[13:46] <leotr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192725/
[13:46] <blackshirt> specialed, you should get cleaned state
[13:46] <Sven_vB> SpecialEd: is it usual for reinstalling to be a nightmare?
[13:46] <SpecialEd> never
[13:46] <SpecialEd> for whatever reason this mysql install has been a shitshow for me :(
[13:47] <Darkenvy> Flash still works in chrome and firefox. despite uninstalling everything flash related. gnash, adobe-flash, ect
[13:47] <tomreyn> leotr: thanks. you can search for and install pending  updates now, then reboot once more and tell me whether it got better. i'll have some reading to do in the meantime.
[13:47] <Darkenvy> however firefox is incredibly slow
[13:48] <blackshirt> specialed, i think that was from postinstall script
[13:48] <Michelle_> hi, someone knows why i get stuck at https://www.logicsupply.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/boot_splash.png ?
[13:48] <tomreyn> leotr: oh don't reboot just yet, there's more to be done.
[13:48] <TribesAsc> should i upgrade to unbuntu 12.10 from 11.10, i reallly like 11.10 , but i feel im missing out on something by not upgrading
[13:48] <leotr> ok
[13:48] <droidcore> Hi, I'm trying to convert a desktop install CD to an alternate install CD with jigdo, but I can't find any .debs in the desktop CD (also checked in filesystem.squashfs).  Does anyone know how they're stored?  trying to avoid downloading the whole thing
[13:49] <cfhowlett> TribesAsc: 12.10 is beta.
[13:49] <yeats> TribesAsc: 12.10 isn't released yet, so no one here is going to recommend that
[13:49] <Daekdroom> TribesAsc, first you'd have to upgrade to 12.04 LTS, and 12.10 is still in development.
[13:49] <blackshirt> specialed, i think you was not successfully purging your mysql server
[13:49]  * szymon_g wanders why there is no Faenza package in default repositories :/
[13:49] <tobleh> hahahahah
[13:49] <yeats> TribesAsc: and I'm one for not fixing what's not been broken - if you like 11.10, no need to rock the boat ;-)
[13:49] <tomreyn> leotr: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[13:49] <cfhowlett> TribesAsc: if you want bleeding edge stuff, go for the upgrade - and be prepared to maintain and configure it.  If you want a system that works, stick with LTS.  WAY fewer headaches.
[13:50] <tomreyn> leotr: and tell me whether it says it already had it.
[13:50] <tomreyn> leotr: i.e. "nothing to do"
[13:50] <leotr> it's downloading...
[13:50] <leotr> and unpacking
[13:50] <TribesAsc> i like headaches, it keeps me from doing worng stuff
[13:50] <leotr> got installed
[13:51] <max> hello
[13:51] <NeuhNeuh> Hi !
[13:51] <Michelle_> someone knows why i get stuck at boot splash screen?
[13:51] <tomreyn> leotr: okay, now install all the other pending updates (should include a kernel update) and reboot.
[13:51] <NeuhNeuh> I want to enable Compiz on XFCE4, but many solutions offer by Google (and doc ubuntu website) don't work :/
[13:51] <blackshirt> hello max
[13:51] <TribesAsc> does 12.04 have support for my nvidia with intel i7 laptop
[13:51] <cfhowlett> NeuhNeuh: greetings
[13:51] <blackshirt> specialed, still there guys?
[13:51] <NeuhNeuh> cfhowlett, ?
[13:52] <NeuhNeuh> Hi cfhowlett  :)
[13:52] <max> hw r u doing blackshirt
[13:52] <sunilrk> hi al
[13:52] <blackshirt> max, nothing lol
[13:52] <blackshirt> Hi sunilrk
[13:52] <cfhowlett> NeuhNeuh: we had a guy on irc last night talking about that.  I don't know how he did it, but apparently xfce and compiz can be made to co-exist
[13:52] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | Michelle_
[13:52] <sunilrk> hi blackshirt
[13:53] <sunilrk> where are you from
[13:54] <blackshirt> sunilrk, what do you think about?
[13:54] <blackshirt> sory for my cryptic english
[13:54] <leotr> tomreyn, ok, upgrading... this will take a while. I'll let you know when it finishes
[13:55] <sunilrk> its ok
[13:55] <tomreyn> leotr: cool, just reboot when it's done and notify me when you're back.
[13:55] <leotr> ok
[13:56] <blackshirt> sunilrk, do you come from india?
[13:56] <firered365> Hello.
[13:56] <blackshirt> hello firered365
[13:56] <tomtiger11> How can i have one ubuntu server, and have different computers login through that server?
[13:57] <firered365> I need help. I installed ubuntu inside windows, but I want ubuntu to be the only OS in the computer
[13:57] <Sven_vB> tomtiger11: what kind of services would you like to log into?
[13:57] <blackshirt> tomtiger1, what you need, describe more details?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> firered365: you mean NO windows available at all?
[13:57] <bekks> tomtiger11: Just create multiple user accounts.
[13:57] <sunilrk> yes blackshirt how do you know i am from india
[13:57] <firered365> Yes!
[13:57] <blackshirt> firered365, you should do full installation..and replace your old os
[13:58] <firered365> With a live CD?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> firered365: yes
[13:58] <tomtiger11> bekks: But they need to login through the server
[13:58] <blackshirt> Sunilrk, yes, because i'm smart enough ::d
[13:58] <firered365> Ok. Will it delete everything I have already?
[13:58] <bekks> tomtiger11: What do you mean by "login through the server"?
[13:58] <uberamd> tomtiger11: are you trying to use the server as a authentication server?
[13:58] <sunilrk> cool..wer r u from blackshirt
[13:58] <firered365> On Ubuntu
[13:59] <tomtiger11> bekks: I mean have ubuntu connect to the server as if the accounts were on the computer
[13:59] <blackshirt> sunilrk, thank you... You can think me come from indonesia :d
[13:59] <cfhowlett> firered365: you installed a wubi setup.  Full installation is different.  Backup your data to a usb, fully install and copy over your data.
[13:59] <bekks> tomtiger11: So you want a thin client then?
[13:59] <uberamd> tomtiger11: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[14:00] <tomtiger11> Since ive got 13 computers, And one of them is going to be a server to host the users files, and login through that server
[14:00] <uberamd> tomtiger11: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[14:00] <firered365> Yes. I really don't have much, but just don't want to download everything all over again on my Ubuntu partition.
[14:01] <uberamd> tomtiger11: I just want to point out that what you're asking for isn't simple. Its something that organizations do, but its not something you setup in 10 minutes
[14:01] <tomtiger11> uberamd: Yes, Ive got a few people in a club at school who would be assisting.
[14:01] <tomtiger11> its for that club
[14:01] <blackshirt> tomtiger11, you mean single sign on?
[14:02] <tomtiger11> indeed
[14:02] <uberamd> tomtiger11: just google Ubuntu Directory Server and get reading :)
[14:02] <blackshirt> tomtiger11, you can do it
[14:03] <Michelle_> OerHeks: the keyboard at the boot splash doesn't even respond?
[14:04] <tomtiger11> uberamd: Would I install OpenLDAPServer on the server computer and then what?
[14:04] <bekks> tomtiger11: OpenLDAP just gives you the authentication - nothing more.
[14:05] <bekks> For setting up thin clients, you have to refer to the Linux Terminal Server Project.
[14:05] <tomtiger11> bekks: Indeed, But how do i authenticate with OpenLDAP
[14:05] <tomtiger11> Seriously? Terminal?
[14:05] <blackshirt> you should configure your client to do authintication through informations on openldap server
[14:06] <tomtiger11> The computers that will authenticate through the server using the GUI
[14:06] <blackshirt> no big problem
[14:06] <tomtiger11> Right.
[14:08] <uberamd> tomtiger11: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[14:08] <tomreyn> leotr: still installing? is it possible (do you remember) that you have edited this file in the past? /etc/default/grub
[14:09] <leotr> tomreyn: yes, i did it
[14:09] <tomreyn> leotr: why did it seem neccessary to do so? and how long is it ago (same ubuntu version?)
[14:09] <leotr> yes, still installing. I added a line to it, while i was trying to resolve it. I did it today
[14:10] <leotr> just a minute i will tell you exactly
[14:10] <tomreyn> leotr: please undo the change of "nouveau.modeset=0" you did there
[14:11] <leotr> ok, removed that
[14:11] <tomreyn> leotr: now run: sudo update-grub
[14:12] <leotr> after i installed videocard i faced the problem we are trying to resolve so there was a recommendation to do it. Ok did that
[14:13] <taowa> I am not in the sudoers file but I am an admin
[14:13] <blackshirt> admin on real world but not on computer account
[14:13] <jrib> taowa: what is your question?
[14:14] <leotr> tomreyn, almost done installing will reboot soon
[14:14] <taowa> How do I get into the sudoers file to add myself
[14:14] <jrib> taowa: what is the output of this command: groups
[14:14] <tomreyn> leotr: don't forget to run: sudo update-grub
[14:14] <blackshirt> taowa, add your user to sudo
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> taowa  visudo
[14:14] <taowa> I am not allowd
[14:14] <taowa> * allowed
[14:15] <jrib> !who | taowa
[14:15] <BluesKaj> in the terminal sudo visudo , taowa
[14:15] <blackshirt> and then logout to see the effect
[14:15] <leotr> tomreyn, yes, it's already done
[14:15] <tomreyn> leotr: did you make other changes to /etc/default/grub ?
[14:15] <szymon_g> how can i modify the osd info from rhythmbox (the one that is displayed in upper-right corner when i change the track)? i cannot find that options in rhythmbox :/
[14:15] <leotr> tomreyn, no
[14:15] <ozette> is it possible I'm experiencing flash problems because of 64 bit?
[14:15] <jrib> blackshirt, BluesKaj, MonkeyDust: if he doesn't have sudo access, he won't be able to do any of those things at the moment
[14:16] <blackshirt> yes, you are right
[14:16] <blackshirt> He can contact the administrator
[14:16] <ozette> sometimes I can't type at websites like youtube or justin.tv
[14:16] <jrib> taowa: what is the output of this command: groups
[14:16] <max> #
[14:16] <BluesKaj> jrib, tha's why I told him/her to sudo visudo
[14:16] <jrib> BluesKaj: but he doesn't have sudo access presumably
[14:16] <szymon_g> ozette, what flash problems are you talking about?
[14:16] <max> hey any buddy from US
[14:16] <max> ??
[14:17] <leotr> tomreyn, rebooting...
[14:17] <jrib> !ot | max
[14:17] <uberamd> max: ye
[14:17] <tomreyn> leotr: for your information, the issue you're running into is about IRQs, specifically IRQ 19 is troublesome as can be seen on line 9858 on http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192715/
[14:17] <cfhowlett> max: what's your ubuntu question?
[14:17] <max> wre u usd 2 liv
[14:17] <blackshirt> max, just ask your question related to your ubuntu
[14:17] <jrib> max: please take the social chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[14:17] <cfhowlett> max: what's your UBUNTU question?
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> max  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:17] <uberamd> anyone else here use sudo with nopasswd?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> jrib, ok  I assume most users do
[14:17] <jrib> uberamd: ask your actual question please
[14:17] <antavian2012_> ubuntu en español
[14:17] <max> yup
[14:18] <szymon_g> uberamd, by defau8lt it asks for your password. it remembers it for 5 minutes
[14:18] <jrib> !es | antavian2012_
[14:18] <uberamd> jrib: ... that was my question... does anyone use sudo with nopasswd? im looking for yes/no and why
[14:18] <max> well i wnted 2 knw dt  hw  i cn use more than 1 monitors in ubi
[14:18] <jrib> !poll | uberamd
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> max  please write complete words
[14:19] <max> hw  2 use dual monitors in ubuntu
[14:19] <rymate1234> max, connect second monitor and enable it in settings
[14:19] <max> ok monkeydust
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> max  use arandr
[14:19] <jrib> uberamd: this channel is really meant only for support.  You can ask about how people use their system and why in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[14:19] <uberamd> sigh, back to #mint I go
[14:19] <max> nop dude  i hv already tried
[14:19] <ozette> szymon_g, like flash content not loading or not responding
[14:19] <max> ohh  dts  gr8 choice Monkeydudt
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> max  write 'have', not 'hv', please
[14:20] <szymon_g> max: write in English
[14:20] <ozette> I can't type in the youtube box, I can't check the viewers list at justin.tv, etc. such things
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> !coc | max
[14:20] <max> ok ok
[14:20] <cfhowlett> max: weren't you here last week claiming your keyboard was jamming up?
[14:20] <max> dude i'm writing in english it self
[14:20] <szymon_g> ozette, well- even on 32 bit linux flash can be a bit crappy. if that would make you feel better, it also fails quite alot under Waterfox (64 bit firefox on windows)
[14:21] <max> no
[14:21] <max> hey  which would be the best IDE for python in ubutnu
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !best|max:
[14:21] <ozette> szymon_g, ow that's unfortunate ..
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> max  try 'quickly'
[14:22] <baizon> max: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors
[14:22] <leotr> tomreyn, rebooted. screen resolution is okay, animation effects are smooth, mouse and keyboard are laggy
[14:22] <max> currently i'm using Eric and eclipse
[14:22] <max> some thing better than this
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> max  http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[14:22] <tomreyn> leotr: for your information, the issue you're running into is about IRQs, specifically IRQ 19 is troublesome as can be seen on line 9858 on http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192715/
[14:24] <tomreyn> leotr: i suggest you power down your PC, unplug power, open your PC enclosure again, ensure the new video card is properly seated, close the enclosure again, reconnect power, power it up, enter bios, restore it "optimized defaults" or, if not available, "manufacturer defaults", boot up and ping me here again.
[14:25] <tomreyn> leotr: if your new grpahics card would also fit into a different slot on your mainboard then please move it to one of the other slots.
[14:25] <leotr> tomreyn, ok will do it
[14:25] <kuan> 你好，你们还没睡觉啊
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !cn|kuan
[14:26] <tomreyn> leotr: and finally, since you are not using ISA, consider disabling support for it in BIOS (if you can find out how)
[14:26] <Michelle> Hi, after choose "install ubuntu" i get "kernel panic - not syncing: timer doesn't work through interrupted remapped and comm: swapper/0 Not tainted?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> Michelle: did you md5sum check?
[14:27] <MrKeuner> is there a tool to detect duplicate directories rather than detecting duplicate files?
[14:27] <Michelle> cfhowlett: yes it looks good
[14:27] <kuan> yes,understand
[14:28] <kuan> roger
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Michelle: have you tested RAM using memtest86+ from the usb?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  i guess 'meld' does the job
[14:28] <leotr> tomreyn, ok, powering down
[14:29] <Michelle> ActionParsnip: no
[14:29] <luyang> Hi should I install the 3rd party mp3 during installation or wait?
[14:29] <luyang> until it is installed?
[14:30] <blackshirt> you can install it after all finished
[14:30] <Michelle> ActionParsnip: should i test the ram test at the ubuntu menu?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> luyang: not installed by default.  You have to selecte
[14:30] <luyang> Fluendo MP3 plugin
[14:30] <luyang> can it be installed afterwards or should I pick it during installation?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> luyang: you can install after installation
[14:30] <NeuhNeuh> Hi ! What application allow to edit decoration settings for gtk-window-decorator ?
[14:30] <blackshirt> yed
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> NeuhNeuh  i think 12.10 will have a gtk editor
[14:32] <ms_daisy> Does Thunderbird use Tor by default?
[14:32] <tomreyn> Michelle: is this computer you're trying to install on a macbook air by chance?
[14:32] <NeuhNeuh> Ok MonkeyDust i looking for gtk editor
[14:32] <tux01> hello
[14:33] <kuan> 你好
[14:33] <cfhowlett> tux01: greetings
[14:33] <blackshirt> hello tux01
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !cn|kuan
[14:33] <Michelle> tomreyn: Macbook Pro 13-inch, mountain lion, intel i5, 4gb ram
[14:33] <cfhowlett> tomreyn: for the win!
[14:33] <szymon_g> does replaygain plugin in rhythmbox (12.04 default) work for you? it keeps crashing on my box
[14:33] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, it does if you suspect two specific directories
[14:33] <luyang> ftw wtf
[14:34] <tomreyn> :)
[14:34] <tux01> why my fonts get reseted every time i boot my ubuntu ?
[14:34] <tux01> i'm using xfce
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ms_daisy: as far as I know it will use the system wide settings
[14:34] <tomreyn> Michelle: this suggests you may want to use the nointremap kernel/boot option to run the installer:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2006289
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> tux01: reset in what way?
[14:34] <tomreyn> Michelle: do you know how to do this?
[14:35] <tux01> i use b5 theme and love the size of the fonts
[14:35] <Michelle> tomreyn: i'll look on the site first :P
[14:35] <tux01> i can't see well so i use them as they are bigger
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> NeuhNeuh  http://worldofgnome.org/customizing-gtk-themes-just-got-easier/
[14:35] <tux01> and as i love beos
[14:37] <tux01> oh i use ubuntu 10.4.4
[14:38] <NeuhNeuh> Thank You MonkeyDust
[14:39] <Michelle> tomreyn: i don't think i could do it. I can't find the solution?
[14:39] <ms_daisy> ActionParsnip, thanks. Apparently it automatically set itself to use a proxy. Weird.
[14:40] <BalthaTczar> If you write an .iso to disc, will it just write the iso file to disc or the contents ?
[14:41] <blackshirt> it,s depends
[14:42] <luyang> it takes a while to install ubuntu from cd!
[14:42] <tux01> oh if i use rsync  command to backup does the external hd must be in linux formal or in can be in fat32?
[14:42] <cfhowlett> luyang: usb is an option
[14:42] <blackshirt> yes
[14:42] <luyang> cfhowlett: last message was something about ubiquity and a file read permission denied
[14:43] <tomreyn> Michelle: on the boot screen, press F6 ("other") and select "noapic"
[14:43] <iceroot> tux01: only your home or the complete system?
[14:43] <nOStahl> what channel can I go to get some help with database setup
[14:43] <iceroot> tux01: there are some limitations on fat32 to i would recommend ext4 instead of fat32
[14:43] <cfhowlett> luyang: you DID hashcheck, right?
[14:43] <tomreyn> oh she's gone...
[14:43] <iceroot> nOStahl: #mysql #postgresql and so on
[14:43] <luyang> "Step before: stepMigrationAssistant"
[14:43] <tux01> i know the limits
[14:43] <luyang> cfhowlett: no?
[14:43] <tux01> of fat32
[14:44] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|luyang
[14:44] <luyang> how can I hash check
[14:44] <iceroot> tux01: no hardloinks, no POSIX ACLs only 2gb files
[14:44] <luyang> I see
[14:44] <luyang> hm
[14:44] <tux01> i just ask , if is important for permisions
[14:44] <cfhowlett> luyang: bad downloads happen most often with direct downloads, less often with torrents.  Bad iso means bad installation.  Takes 60 seconds to check.
[14:44] <iceroot> tux01: for POSIX ACLs, yes
[14:44] <tux01> i want to have backup of my home
[14:44] <iceroot> tux01: for normal permissions not
[14:44] <tux01> folder
[14:45] <iceroot> tux01: why not just using ext4?
[14:45] <nOStahl> btw how is everyone liking 12.04
[14:45] <luyang> but I am currently installing.... and now I am chatting on my mac mini
[14:45] <luyang> I am installing on the pc machine where the iso was burned from
[14:45] <cfhowlett> and with that ladies and gents, I must retire for the night.  Sadly, it's Saturday night here in Beijing, but I hae to work tomorrow.
[14:45] <tux01> i don't have any hd to format that one is for movies and the other one i have is for macosx time machine
[14:45] <iceroot> tux01: you are storing movies on fat32?
[14:46] <luyang> it has moved on... now doing some sort of plugin install
[14:46] <tux01> yes
[14:46] <iceroot> tux01: sounds like a bad idea but ok, that is not the topic on this channel
[14:46] <luyang> cfhowlett: xin nian kuai le
[14:46] <tux01> they are not pirate
[14:46] <iceroot> tux01: you can use fat32 to make a backup but ext4 is highly recommend because of hardlinks, posix acls and the file-size-limit
[14:47] <tux01> and if i use a usb pen drive ?
[14:47] <iceroot> tux01: what should be the difference?
[14:47] <damianos> need help troubleshooting ipsec configuration file on ubuntu 12.04. I'm getting an unexpected string syntax error in my ipsec.conf file when i run ipsec verify
[14:47] <damianos> http://pastebin.com/pQEQpJWm
[14:47] <tux01> and format it on linux ?
[14:47] <iceroot> tux01: its fine
[14:48] <tux01> ok then i'll see if i get a pen thanks
[14:48] <tolmun> nice sorprise, after upgrading to 3.2.0-30 the ui language changed into mandarin =)
[14:49] <tux01> nihao
[14:49] <tux01> :D
[14:49] <iceroot> tolmun: the kernel has nothing to do with the language of the gui
[14:49] <tux01> linus tovals is chinese lol
[14:49] <tomreyn> damianos: you have a duplicate virtual_private option
[14:50] <tomreyn> damianos: please post the exactly error message, too. use a pastebin if it's multi-line.
[14:50] <tomreyn> *exact
[14:51] <lionking> #pygtk
[14:51] <tuonopanettone> !list
[14:52] <damianos> tomreyn: http://pastebin.com/F48QyhGd
[14:52] <lionking> !list
[14:52] <damianos> I got rid of the syntax error
[14:52] <tux01> who is with warez '
[14:52] <tux01> ?
[14:52] <damianos> I'm trying to do this in Amahi which makes it even more fun
[14:53] <DJones> !piracy | tux01
[14:53] <tux01> hey i'll torrent nethack
[14:53] <tux01> i know
[14:54] <randomize> gnome-mplayer does not play videos when i select the output as vaapi. what might be the problem?
[14:54] <bazhang> !ot | tux01
[14:54] <leotr> tomreyn, tried to reset bios, sorry i only have one PCI-E slot, so i plugged videocard out and pushed it back. I disabled floppy controller and serial/parallel port controllers, but still have the problem. There were some settings related to IRQ, but there was nothing related to IRQ19
[14:54] <MeanEYE> Hi. What's the state of btrfs on Ubuntu 12.04. Is it usable and stable?
[14:54] <tux01> but i don't get it if they sell extenal hds for tv then what we put in them?
[14:55] <bazhang> tux01, stop with the chit chat
[14:55] <iceroot> MeanEYE: unstable
[14:55] <tux01> ok
[14:55] <tomreyn> leotr: have you reseated the card, too?
[14:55] <MeanEYE> iceroot: Thanks. Any idea if the progress is good. If it's actively being worked on?
[14:55] <tomreyn> leotr: sorry, you just said you did
[14:56] <iceroot> MeanEYE: its worked on and i guess 12.10 or 13.04 will have it as default
[14:56] <MeanEYE> iceroot: Thanks! :) All I wanted to know.
[14:56] <iceroot> MeanEYE: but maybe more 13.04 then 12.10
[14:57] <MeanEYE> iceroot: Either is not too far. Is it the successor to ext4?
[14:57] <tomreyn> leotr: so let's do as the message suggests, use the irqpoll boot parameter
[14:57] <leotr> tomreyn: where can i set it?
[14:57] <iceroot> MeanEYE: its something different to ext4 so its not something like ext5 but it will replace ext4 in one of the coming releases
[14:58] <tomreyn> leotr: /etc/grub/default - right where you had the other option
[14:59] <MeanEYE> iceroot: I know they are not the same. I was just wondering if there will be ext5.
[14:59] <tomreyn> leotr: chances are the graphics card you have install3ed is not actually compatible with your mainboard.
[15:00] <leotr> hmmm... possible... it's old
[15:01] <leotr> rebooting
[15:01] <iceroot> MeanEYE: dont know anything about that, sorry
[15:01] <MeanEYE> iceroot: It's okay. That information won't affect me now. :) Thanks for the help.
[15:03] <Michelle> Hi, i still got the problem kernel panic - not syncing: timer doesn't work through interrupted remapped and comm: swapper/0 not tainted?
[15:03] <tomreyn> Michelle: on the boot screen, press F6 ("other") and select "noapic"
[15:03] <iceroot> Michelle: you are using the official ubuntu kernel related to your ubuntu-version?
[15:04] <Michelle> iceroot: im using the official ubuntu 64-bit iso from the ubuntu.com
[15:04] <Michelle> iceroot: 12.04 LTS
[15:05] <iceroot> Michelle: undepended from a solution, did you create a bug about that issue?
[15:05] <leotr> tomreyn, :-******** it worked!!!! thank you so much!!!! i owe you
[15:05] <leotr> what can i do for you?
[15:06] <leotr> irqpoll resolved the problem
[15:06] <tomreyn> leotr: :) cool
[15:08] <Michelle> tomreyn: i'll try it :)
[15:08] <tomreyn> leotr: you may want to comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/993425 or mark it as affecting you and subscribe to it so you'll know when/if it gets fixed/improved so you can remove the boot option again then.
[15:11] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. How do I change my icon theme in openbox? I'm running Ubuntu 12.04, built up from ubuntu minimal install (base server)
[15:12] <seednode> Well, assuming you couldn't find it on Google, let me check.
[15:12] <econdudeawesome> seednode: it was not clear to me when I googlefued
[15:12] <bazhang> openbox-themes, openbox-xdgmenu econdudeawesome got there installed?
[15:12] <bazhang> err these
[15:12] <econdudeawesome> bazhang: not sure let me check
[15:13] <ms_daisy> The torproject has been pushing some updates to Ubuntu for me but the gpg keys are expired. Anyone else seeing these?
[15:13] <seednode>      System-wide themes are installed in /usr/share/themes. User-specific themes can be installed in ~/.local/share/themes or in ~/.themes.
[15:13] <bazhang> ms_daisy, gpg errors?
[15:13] <econdudeawesome> bazhang: xdgmenu was not installed.
[15:13] <seednode> Just put the theme there and setup with ObConf, maybe?
[15:13] <luyang> Is it just me or is Ubuntu significantly faster than Windows 7?
[15:14] <seednode> It often is, luyang.
[15:14] <luyang> I just installed a plugin in Eclipse and it feels faster
[15:14] <econdudeawesome> seednode: the specific issue I'm having is with nautilus displaying icons. Not sure how to link them together
[15:14] <seednode> Due to fewer background processes
[15:14] <bazhang> luyang, a good topic for #ubuntu-discuss
[15:14] <Calinou> luyang, obviously it is
[15:14] <ms_daisy> what do you mean bazhang ?
[15:14] <luyang> ok should I enable TRIM via discard option or just leave it? (I use ssd)
[15:14] <Calinou> lubuntu and xubuntu are sometimes even faster
[15:15] <seednode> Ubuntu minimal + awesome is even faster-er
[15:15] <xangua> ms_daisy: he means that you should share the actual error message
[15:15] <luyang> small is beautiful
[15:15] <econdudeawesome> luyang: super fast, especially when you pare out the bloat from the default install or build up from ubuntu minimal (I prefer openbox, it appears seednode prefers awesome, both are windows managers)
[15:16] <seednode> I just love tiling, and awesome seems to be less work to setup.
[15:16] <seednode> But to each their own.
[15:16] <econdudeawesome> seednode: perhaps. I've not found awesome to as such, but I work on multiple monitors
[15:16] <jeep> !ot | everyone
[15:16] <econdudeawesome> !offtopic | jeep
[15:17]  * seednode sighs. Alright, time to go back to off-topic.
[15:17] <econdudeawesome> :)
[15:17] <econdudeawesome> anyway--any ideas how I can get nautilus to show icons so I can distinguish between folders and files?
[15:17] <ms_daisy> gotcha bazhang and xangua . It says "GPG error: http://deb.torproject.org oneiric InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1346668560 KEYEXPIRED 1346668560 KEYEXPIRED 1346668560 KEYEXPIRED 1346668560"
[15:18] <lazysuperhero> crooked
[15:18] <bazhang> !gpgerr | ms_daisy this may help
[15:18] <Michelle> tomreyn: hey i tried noacpi but i got another kernel panic :/ "kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init" and nomodeset for the graphic
[15:18] <bazhang> econdudeawesome, its in the nautilus settings on views
[15:18] <luyang> I don't know where all the running programs are listed...
[15:18] <luyang> not in the sidebar?
[15:19] <Michelle> tomreyn: comm: init Not tainted
[15:19] <luyang> oh the Eclipse process has a question mark in the side bar
[15:19] <econdudeawesome> bazhang: not icon view--actual icons
[15:19] <xangua> ms_daisy: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en there says how to add the gpg key
[15:20] <tomreyn> Michelle: how do you mean you got "nomodeset for the graphic"? did you set it yourself, or did the installer suggest you use it?
[15:21] <nsaquatics> morning, is TJ on?
[15:22] <gigatropolis> j #brewtarget
[15:23] <Michelle> tomreyn: i set myself nomodeset to not get black screen after choosing "install ubuntu"
[15:23] <econdudeawesome> bazhang: the icons that DO display, unless they are previewable, look like a page with the corner turned down
[15:24] <jeep> Michelle: what cpu/ram/video card ? have you tried alternate cd ?
[15:24] <econdudeawesome> bazhang: i'd like folders to look like folders and files to not look like folder
[15:27] <TribesAsc> doesnt any one here play tirbes, im fent to head off to play it
[15:27] <tomreyn> Michelle: boot again, press F6 again, then hit escape once to close this popup menu. you now have the boot line editable. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[15:27] <Michelle> jeep: 2,5 GHz intel core i5, 4 GB ram, Intel HD Graphics 4000 384 mb
[15:28] <ms_daisy> yup, I found that and followed it xangua . Seems to have solved it. Thanks!
[15:28] <TribesAsc> Michelle, so you have 3rd Gen i5?
[15:28] <tomreyn> Michelle: there, add this to the very end: nointremap
[15:28] <econdudeawesome> bazhang: it actually looks almost exactly like this screenshot, but happens even at boot: http://askubuntu.com/questions/115859/nautilus-icons-are-not-displayed
[15:28] <allballs> Can anyone tell me how, the Ubuntu-way, to install PHP5 with LFS? Stock (Precise) packages can't seem to handle large-files. At all.
[15:28] <tomreyn> Michelle: this is based on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2006289
[15:29] <allballs> seems that it wasn't compiled with _64 jazz.
[15:29] <jeep> econdudeawesome: mv ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus to nautilus-old .. might have to do it after logging out that should reset it
[15:29] <econdudeawesome> jeep: thanks.
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> econdudeawesome  'mashup' is nice iconset
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> econdudeawesome  'mashup' is a nice iconset
[15:29] <Michelle> TribesAsc: i don't know if it's 3rd Gen :P
[15:30] <econdudeawesome> jeep: that files does not seem to exist. Is this a problem?
[15:30] <econdudeawesome> MonkeyDust: yeah? I'll check it out
[15:30] <Michelle> tomreyn: i'll try :P i've always got errors and problems when doing something :/
[15:31] <jeep> econdudeawesome: hmm thats where mine is that nautilus is a directory with desktop setiings.xml and prefences directory below it
[15:31] <Bersirc> a
[15:32] <econdudeawesome> jeep: perhaps thats the issue. I'll look into it
[15:32] <jeep> econdudeawesome: maybe a permissions issue if it ended up ownwed by root
[15:34] <econdudeawesome> jeep: well, can't seem to run gksu for some reason. But when I run sudo nautilus the icon issue is still there
[15:34] <^Mike> Transmission isn't limiting download speed despite being set to do so. Is this a known regression?
[15:35] <jeep> econdudeawesome: could be system wide do you have another useraccount you can login and see if it works ok on ?
[15:36] <econdudeawesome> jeep: im on an administrator account (not root), no other account setup
[15:36] <econdudeawesome> jeep: Im not sure I said that right. I have full access through sudo
[15:37] <jeep> econdudeawesome: just for the sake of testing create a second user account .. if it logs in and everything is normal you can focus on your account settings .. if it logs in and is screwed up then its the system wide settings
[15:37] <econdudeawesome> jeep: let's assume it's system wide since I installed everything yesterday and its never worked? What would I do then?
[15:38] <Michelle> tomreyn: hey tom, adding nointremap at the end didn't help
[15:40] <Michelle> tomreyn: I set nomodeset, noacpi and typed nointremap on the bootline but still gets kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init! comm: init not tainted.
[15:42] <econdudeawesome> well, got to run. Adios!
[15:42] <jeep> econdudeawesome: did you install themes/icons yesterday ?
[15:43] <bazhang> he's gone jeep
[15:43] <tomreyn> Michelle: i meant the nointremap to replace the noapic option actually. but chances are this may not work out then either.
[15:44] <tomreyn> Michelle: it could help to have the entire error message available. do you think you could tyoe it or take a photo and upload it?
[15:44] <Michelle> tomreyn: i can upload it and link it
[15:45] <tomreyn> great
[15:49] <Michelle> tomreyn: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dwzo28oprt90gi/2012-09-08%2017.14.39.jpg and https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqvc57qkp2p21tx/2012-09-08%2016.20.41.jpg
[15:53] <tomreyn> Michelle: now which is which? i mean which one do you get to see first? or do you only get to see one of those but the other if you have other boot params in place? which one do you get with no boot params in place?
[15:53] <vinodpaul> $ PWD
[15:54] <Michelle> tomreyn: i think it's only https://www.dropbox.com/s/7dwzo28oprt90gi/2012-09-08%2017.14.39.jpg :P
[15:55] <tomreyn> Michelle: that's the one you get with no boot params in place?
[15:56] <Michelle> tomreyn: i get it when i turn on nomodeset i think, it's either noacpi that cause the error or the nomodeset?
[15:56] <Michelle> tomreyn: noapci*
[15:57] <phaidros> is there any reason that 12.04 LTS comes without CONFIG_CIFS_ACL kernel setting ?!
[15:58] <tomreyn> Michelle: do you mean "noapic" or "acpi=off"?
[15:58] <jeep> Michelle: are you using usbstick or cd ? did you md5sum ect. run the diskcheck option ect.
[15:59] <Michelle> tomreyn: noapic :p
[15:59] <Michelle> jeep: usbstick and the md5sum is correct
[16:00] <rapstudio> how to increase system volume in ubuntu studio
[16:02] <jeep> Michelle: how did you make the usbstick?
[16:02] <lluvia> how can I change my system from using vesa driver to the proper intel one
[16:02] <compdoc> is there a command to upgrade 12.04 to 12.04.1  ?
[16:02] <Daekdroom> compdoc, that upgrade should happen automatically.
[16:02] <bazhang> compdoc, just keep up to date and you'll be there
[16:02] <rapstudio>  how to increase system volume in ubuntu studio
[16:02] <rapstudio>  how to increase system volume in ubuntu studio
[16:02] <rapstudio>  how to increase system volume in ubuntu studio
[16:02] <FloodBot1> rapstudio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <bazhang> lluvia, those are in the kernel
[16:03] <xangua> compdoc: you are already using it
[16:03] <Michelle> jeep: using the official ubuntu tutorial on mac via terminal
[16:03] <bazhang> rapstudio, no need to repeat. try alsamixer
[16:03] <xangua> compdoc: if you keep secutiry updates of course
[16:04] <compdoc> I see - the System info still says 12.04, even on a 12.04.1 system
[16:04] <lluvia> my question is about how to switch from one to other
[16:04] <jeep> Michelle: your installing on a mac or you just used it to make the usbstick?
[16:05] <Michelle> jeep: installing on a mac
[16:05] <mannytu> How do I install Ubuntu on to a USB?
[16:06] <bazhang> mannytu, using unetbootin
[16:06] <iceroot> !usb | mannytu
[16:06] <ashi> hi
[16:06] <thiebaude> !unetbootin | mannytu
[16:06] <thiebaude> !unetbootin
[16:06] <rapstudio> thanx *bazhang
[16:06] <tomreyn> Michelle: have you run a different operating system on this computer without problems? no random crashes or freezes?
[16:07] <Michelle> jeep: making usbstick bootable works, but when trying to boot ubuntu gets me kernel panics
[16:07] <Michelle> jeep: also creating on a mac
[16:08] <Michelle> tomreyn: i could try backtrack 5 if u want :P
[16:08] <Michelle> tomreyn: yes, other os works like windows....
[16:08] <jeep> Michelle: you followed this ?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> Michelle  backtrack is a security distro to test and detect network intrusion
[16:09] <Michelle> jeep: thats the usb tutorial i used but i haven't tried the macbook air 3,2 section
[16:09] <21WAAFEW9> Michelle backtrack? Never heard of it...
[16:10] <Michelle> MonkeyDust: i know, i meant just testing as "other os" if it works on mac :P
[16:10] <jeep> Michelle: you used unetbootin or the manual method ?
[16:10] <Michelle> jeep: the manual method
[16:10] <Michelle> jeep: using unetbootin on mac makes the usb undetectable
[16:10] <jeep> Michelle: recreate your usb stick with unetbootin it may be more successful
[16:11] <jeep> nevermind i see now
[16:11] <Michelle> jeep: i've already tested unetbootin, it made the usb undetectable, even creating bootable usb in windows = same as the method
[16:11] <alexgiova1> ciao
[16:12] <Michelle> jeep: as manual method
[16:12] <Michelle> jeep: but i'll try the link you linked
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> Michelle  try this 3rd party app   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[16:13] <Michelle> MonkeyDust: i'm on mac not in linux :P
[16:13] <FindingGirlyGirl> GirlyGirl: long time no see ... may I discuss the stuff by pm
[16:13] <mayur_pune> my latest ubuntu server is crashing after installing windows IE8
[16:14] <mayur_pune> any idea?
[16:14] <mayur_pune> its a crash !
[16:14] <bazhang> mayur_pune, installing how
[16:14] <phaidros> is there any reason that 12.04 LTS comes without CONFIG_CIFS_ACL kernel setting ?!
[16:14] <mayur_pune> yes
[16:15] <mayur_pune> i have build kernel and then enable that mod
[16:15] <bazhang> mayur_pune, installing how, please answer
[16:15] <mayur_pune> bazhang using wine
[16:15] <bazhang> mayur_pune, ask in #winehq after checking the appdb
[16:15] <bazhang> !appdb | mayur_pune
[16:16] <mayur_pune> bazhang , thanks wil get back to you
[16:16] <Michelle> jeep: it says "dd the whole USB stick to the second partition" you know how i should execute the command?
[16:16] <bazhang> mayur_pune, application support is in #winehq
[16:16] <OerHeks> mayur_pune, you should use IE9
[16:16] <Michelle> jeep: im reading on the link "macbook air 3,2" :P
[16:17] <OerHeks> mayur_pune, or IE10/11/12/13 .. how far is IE A.T.M. ?
[16:17] <mayur_pune> Michelle , "dd /dev/usb_partition /dev/second_partition"
[16:17] <Michelle> mayur_pune: thanks
[16:17] <mayur_pune> OerHeks , its IE10
[16:17] <Michelle> mayur_pune: i understand now :)
[16:18] <mayur_pune> Michelle , what?
[16:18] <Michelle> mayur_pune: thanks for the command
[16:18] <mayur_pune> Michelle , you can also give the block size for ex bs=1024
[16:19] <jeep> Michelle: i havent messed with an macs since a ppc imac g3
[16:19] <Michelle> mayur_pune: i don't think i need block size but okey
[16:19] <lionrouge> hi
[16:20] <Michelle> jeep: okey, but it works a little bit same as linux
[16:20] <lionrouge> if i install Ubuntu 12.04 is it to be updated to 12.19 without reinstall?
[16:20] <Guest57187> bonjour tt le monde
[16:20] <lionrouge> *to 12.10
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[16:20] <lionrouge> and are there some disadvantages of 64-bit version now?
[16:20] <ThinkT510> lionrouge: you can update yes but 12.10 isn't stable yet
[16:21] <lionrouge> ThinkT510, that is why i ask - want to install stable release
[16:21] <ThinkT510> lionrouge: i've used 64bit fine for more than 2 years
[16:22] <lionrouge> ThinkT510, nothing that cannot be fixed?
[16:22] <Leidenfrost> I still don't know why ubuntu continues to recommend the 32 bits version.
[16:22] <lupo_dj> hy
[16:22] <lupo_dj> i
[16:22] <lupo_dj> hi all
[16:22] <lionrouge> hi
[16:23] <jack214> Hello everyone. I just installed Ubuntu, and I'm having an intermittent wireless problem. Sometimes it just seems to time out, and disconnecting/reconnecting fixes it.
[16:23] <lionrouge> ok, thanks you all a lot
[16:23] <jack214> But it works for about 10 minutes, then times out.
[16:23] <lionrouge> jack214, other operating systems don't face it?
[16:23] <jack214> Windows 7 does not have this problem
[16:23] <drchaos> How do I get /var/log/messages on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[16:23] <jack214> I've tested out other Linux distributions on this computer, like Debian and Fedora, and they all have this issue too.
[16:24] <drchaos> I really want it
[16:24] <ThinkT510> jack214: sounds like the wireless driver at fault
[16:24] <tomreyn> Michelle: did you run the media test on the ISO image you downloaded or on the actual installation media by selecting it at the installer menu?
[16:24] <jack214> I agree.
[16:24] <jack214> I just don't know how to start working on this situation.
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> !wifi > jack214
[16:25] <tomreyn> Michelle: if you haven't done the latter, yet, i suggest you do, to rul out issues which may have occurred while / after you created the installation media
[16:25] <jack214> Thanks for your PM.
[16:25] <Michelle> tomreyn: i've tested the disk test <- i get black screen with kernel panic too (on the pic)
[16:25] <Michelle> tomreyn: same as selecting install ubuntu
[16:26] <earboxer> I need help
[16:26] <tomreyn> Michelle: i see. and now you're recreating your installation media? you're installing from a usb key, right?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> earboxer  let's hear it
[16:26] <tomreyn> !help | earboxer
[16:27] <earboxer> my mouse keeps jumping back to the same place on the edge of my screen
[16:27] <parham> Hi. Can anyone please tell me how I can send parameters to a service using the service command? I need to start the mysql service using the --skip-grant-tables option
[16:27] <UD98> part
[16:27] <earboxer> !help
[16:27] <Michelle> tomreyn: thats right, i'ce creating a bootable usbstick with ubuntu.iso and trying to install it on mac with a second partition
[16:28]  * jagginess thinks earboxer is annoying
[16:28] <Michelle> tomreyn: mac has integrated partition selection choose which i want to boot on
[16:28] <tomreyn> Michelle: i guess it's a good idea to just do it again - using a different usb key if you have more than one, or an external hard drive.
[16:28] <Michelle> tomreyn: to choose*
[16:29] <tomreyn> thanks bazhang
[16:29] <Michelle> tomreyn: i could test on a extern harddisk
[16:30] <tomreyn> Michelle: chances are the usb key is just broken, so this can be a good option
[16:30] <jagginess> Michelle, i believe if you want linux on your mac internal drive, you'll want to use refit.
[16:30] <drchaos> bazhang: would you please unban web gateways?
[16:31] <drchaos> like webchat.freenode.net
[16:31] <Michelle> jagginess: im jusing refit, refit makes my usb detectable at partition selection
[16:31] <Boogeyman> is anybody having an issue with their edge bindings suddenly not working in compiz after the latest kernel upgrade?
[16:31] <jagginess> Michelle, cool
[16:31] <NeuhNeuh> I have a small question :/
[16:31] <NeuhNeuh> [libxvid @ 0x10ddec0] Invalid pixel aspect ratio 0/1 appear with ffmpeg
[16:31] <NeuhNeuh> I give script (2 lines)
[16:32] <Michelle> i'm gonna restart and try again with the tutorial jeep linked to me
[16:32] <jagginess> Michelle, does refit boot from the beginning of the usb drive? this i'm not sure of (if not then you need to install grub's stage1 to the linux partition)
[16:32] <NeuhNeuh> position=$(xwininfo -root | grep 'geometry' | awk '{print $2;}')
[16:32] <NeuhNeuh> ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -i hw:0,0 -f x11grab -r 25 -s $position -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec libxvid -sameq -y output.avi
[16:32] <NeuhNeuh> position = 1366x768+0+0
[16:33] <ineterior_de> hellow
[16:34] <Michelle> Jagginess: refit is like os selection, it's used for selecting mac, windows or linux to boot which is installed on mac
[16:34] <jack214> Hi. So I downloaded the most recent ralink driver. How do I install a.bin file as a driver? :O
[16:34] <Michelle> Jagginess: and making usb detectable at partition selection, both function
[16:35] <jagginess> Michelle, yeah.. i setup a macbook for someone like 2 years ago (but the refit itself looks like it hasn't been updated this long too), but if i recall properly, grub gets installed to the linux partition
[16:37] <tomreyn> jack214: you probably do not want to do this in the first place
[16:37] <jagginess> Tico, do note there's grub-efi and grub-pc, macs can boot in bios-emulation mode..
[16:37] <tomreyn> jack214: why did you download it? is some network device not working properly?
[16:37] <jack214> It seems logical that the next step would be to install the most recent firmware for the device.
[16:38] <jack214> Yes, my Ralink RT2800 times out intermittently. A google search shows that other people have had this problem.
[16:38] <jack214> I've seen some suggestions to update the firmware but nothing definitive.
[16:38] <jagginess> jack214, you using a kernel3.x ?
[16:38] <jack214> 3.2.0
[16:40] <tomreyn> jack214: can you point us to the web page where you read this? also, which ubuntu version are you running, do you have any manually installed drivers / software, do you use third party software repositories?
[16:40] <triyo> I did an upgrade to latest ubuntu dist ver and for some reason now when I try to install most packages, I get an 'unmet dependencies' error. I take it this has something to do with the sources.list or could it be something else?
[16:40] <jack214> I'm running Xubuntu 12.04. It's a fresh install as of 20 minutes ago, literally nothing else installed.
[16:41] <jagginess> !xubuntu
[16:41] <triyo> My sources.list looks pretty standard... (there is a 3party sec with extras.ubuntu....)
[16:41] <tomreyn> triyo: yes, that's probably so. do this: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo apt-get update | pastebinit; apt-cache policy | pastebinit
[16:42] <jagginess> triyo, the update manager gui app changes sources.list
[16:42] <jagginess> triyo, and updates the index too
[16:42] <triyo> Cool, I'll givve it a try.
[16:42] <tomreyn> triyo: if things go well you'll end up with two internet addresses, please post those here
[16:44] <triyo> tomreyn: will do, thanks!
[16:45] <mayur_pune> what is the best vnc server for ubuntu? vnc4server,x11vnc,vncserver ?
[16:46] <bekks> mayur_pune: There is no "best" in software. Just choose the one that fits your requirements.
[16:46] <compdoc> mayur_pune, I use vnc4server
[16:46] <triyo> This doesn't look good: sudo apt-get install pastebinit => "pastebinit : Depends: python-configobj but it is not installable"
[16:47] <mayur_pune> compdoc , but do you get full resolution?
[16:48] <compdoc> mayur_pune, I use GEOMETRY="1280x1024" but its not limited to that, I think
[16:48] <triyo> tomreyn: any ideas?
[16:49] <triyo> Seems that I can hardly install anything at the moment.
[16:49] <tomreyn> triyo: please manually post the output of these commands to a pastebin:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --assume-no install; apt-cache policy
[16:50] <dr_willis> x11vnc is a specilized vnc server to share the 'current visible desktop'
[16:52] <compdoc> for a remote vnc server, I think the only choices are vnc4server, and tightvnc
[16:52] <triyo> apt-get update => http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193004/
[16:52] <tomreyn> triyo: which versions did you recently upgrade from and to?
[16:53] <tomreyn> i'm referring to ubuntu, not some packages
[16:53] <tomreyn> keep going with the posting, though
[16:53] <edivanhalen> algum brasileiro ai?
[16:53] <tomreyn> !br | edivanhalen
[16:54] <edivanhalen> ola
[16:54] <soupeee> since update can't connect to free wifi at library. wicd finds the sight but won't connect. stalls on obtaining ip address. It's not the hardware cuz I can connect to home wifi no problem. any suggestions?
[16:57] <triyo> tomreyn: I installed Ubuntu 11.04 - the Natty Narwhal... But I ran apt-get upgrade earlier and not ti sure if that would upgrade to latest?
[16:57] <triyo> Going to Abount Ubuntu, still says 11.04
[16:57] <bazhang> triyo, that does not change version
[16:58] <jesse123> hello all....  should ddrescue's destination image be the size the used space on the source drive or the capacity of the source drive? I'm trying to rescue 700 GB of files from a 1.5 TB source drive to a 1 TB destination drive
[16:58] <[snake]> tomreyn, I fixed my computer... it froze... but I'm not sure how I got http from it haha
[16:58] <triyo> bazhang: ok, thank for that info.
[16:58] <znow> hey, im following http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/other/improve-your-apps-performance-with-memcached/ and trying to do "memcached -m 512 -c 1024 -p 11211 -d ", but it says: "can't run as root without the -u switch" ?
[16:59] <[snake]> jesse123, I think so... I'm not entirely sure though :/
[17:00] <dr_willis> jesse123:  it will be the size of the drive.. even if the drive is 1% full.
[17:02] <tomreyn> triyo: you said this initially, though: <triyo> I did an upgrade to latest ubuntu dist ver
[17:02] <jesse123> hmm ok.. lets see what happens when I hit the wall :) maybe I can recover the rest of the hdd to a different destination. It does use log files so *fingers crossed*
[17:03] <tomreyn> [snake]: i'm not sure what you're referring to
[17:03] <[snake]> tomreyn, didn't you help me yesterday?
[17:04] <tomreyn> [snake]: oh, yes, that's possible. my memory isn't great, but your name rings one of a couple of bells.
[17:04] <[snake]> tomreyn, yesterday I was the one that had the ssh putty problem but I could still get http
[17:04] <tomreyn> [snake]: ah, now i remember
[17:04] <soupeee> since update can't connect to free wifi at library. wicd finds the site, puts it at the top of the list with 3 green bars,  but won't connect. stalls on obtaining ip address. It's not the hardware cuz I can connect to home wifi no problem. any suggestions?
[17:04] <[snake]> tomreyn, haha yeah. I like [snake] :)
[17:05] <triyo> tomreyn: my apologies. I foolishly thought that apt-get upgrade would do just that.
[17:05] <tomreyn> [snake]: glad you were able to solve it. still, a server shouldn't freeze, so the problem is only half fixed, i guess ;)
[17:05] <triyo> tomreyn: apt-cache policy => http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193026/
[17:06] <[snake]> tomreyn, yeah. :P
[17:06] <tomreyn> triyo: no worries, i was just asking for clarification
[17:07] <tomreyn> triyo: so you did not recently install ubuntu 11.04 but a while ago, right?
[17:07]  * soupeee goes to shutoff sprinkler
[17:07] <triyo> Right
[17:08] <triyo> I'd say about 1 year ago, no more.
[17:08] <tomreyn> triyo: ok
[17:09] <znow> hey, im following http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/other/improve-your-apps-performance-with-memcached/ and trying to do "memcached -m 512 -c 1024 -p 11211 -d ", but it says: "can't run as root without the -u switch" ?
[17:09] <louiemat> can anyone tell me how to set up indicator-weather
[17:09] <tomreyn> triyo: so we're still missing the output of "sudo apt-get --assume-no install", right?
[17:10] <empt> hi guys, i'm using unity on ubuntu 12.04, i tried running a game with wine, everything is fine but one thing annoys me, when i'm in the game the sidebar won't hide and it's always on the left side. how can i fix it?
[17:11] <triyo> tomreyn: That's correct. Reason: E: Command line option --assume-no is not understood
[17:11] <Sokel> empt: Don't use unity. </problem>
[17:12] <empt> what?? you mean i cannot do anything?
[17:12] <louiemat> any takers on ubuntu weather indicator-help
[17:13] <bazhang> !behelpful | Sokel
[17:13] <sedeki> i can't apt-get update anymore, it downloads and then says it's corrupt
[17:13] <triyo> tomreyn: version => apt 0.8.13.2ubuntu4.6 for amd64 compiled on Jun 15 2012 14:55:09
[17:14] <tomreyn> triyo: yes, this will be why, i have a newer version here. please do this instead: sudo apt-get -s install
[17:14] <fire_> empt: you can do it, just set hide unity auto, form the change  background options
[17:14] <Sokel> qq is all I hear.
[17:15] <triyo> thought it might be the reason.
[17:15] <fire_> Sokel: which distro are you using ?
[17:16] <triyo> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193052/
[17:16] <fire_> soupeee: just click on forget the network and try connecting agian.
[17:16] <Sokel> Centos, home. Rhel, work. Opensuse, laptop. Ubuntu, media center.
[17:16] <tomreyn> triyo: sudo ppa-purge ppa:globalmenu-team/ppa
[17:17] <empt> fire_ : i did it too but when i move the mouse to the left side of screen the sidebar shows itself!
[17:17] <tomreyn> triyo: you may need to "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge" beforehand
[17:17] <fire_> empt: you can't totally hide your unity, if it's annoying you shift to ubuntu classic. :D
[17:18] <dr_willis> Err.. the unity panel does hide and is supposed to not 'be on top' of full screened games and videos
[17:19] <dr_willis> some games/apps may not be fullscreening properly if it only has issues with those games
[17:20] <empt> Dude! that's so rediculas, ok thank's by the way ;)
[17:20] <triyo> tomreyn: Running, updated pkg files...
[17:20] <triyo> *updating
[17:20] <dr_willis> empt:  i would check the askubuntu.com site for possible work arounds and tips on getting it working with wine
[17:21] <fire_> empt: ya it is but i can't help it. :)
[17:21] <fire_> dr_willis: hi :)
[17:22] <empt> ok, i'll take a look there too. thanks guys ;)
[17:22] <BaffoGrigio> Ciao
[17:22] <aoxi> i am running xubuntu 12.04 with vlc 2.0.3, and am experiencing vlc's process hanging after closure. it also seems to use 100% cpu of a core at all times, even when the video is paused. i tried googling, but only found articles related to vlc crashing the entire system... anyone know of a fix?
[17:23] <tomreyn> triyo: as you may imagine, this command will (if it succeeds) remove both the "global menu bar" PPA and any packages installed from it. that's neccessary because this PPA you are using is actually for ubuntu lucid (10.04), not natty (11.04, which is the ubuntu release release you have).
[17:24] <klebezettel> can somebody do a little test for me? just wondering if it's only on my system: please run urxvt (terminal emulator), hit 'cat<RETURN>' and press Alt+. ...what's the output for you?
[17:24] <bekks> klebezettel: What is your output?
[17:25] <klebezettel> bekks: just the dot, meaning urxvt does not send escape for alt...which is why I have some problems using midnight commander (mc)
[17:25] <klebezettel> but it should be "^[."
[17:25] <tomreyn> triyo: you should not mix packages made for different ubuntu releases, since they can be (and often are) incompatible.
[17:25] <triyo> tomreyn: interesting regarding lucid in fo in the logs as oppose to natty...
[17:25] <triyo> The command finished running
[17:26] <tomreyn> triyo: did it report errors?
[17:26] <klebezettel> bekks: can you reproduce?
[17:27] <triyo> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193076/
[17:27] <bekks> klebezettel: Sorry, no. I am not using urxvt.
[17:28] <klebezettel> bekks: sudo apt-get install rxvt-unicode-256color; urxvt
[17:28] <klebezettel> bekks: :D
[17:29] <tomreyn> triyo: sudo apt-get update 1>/dev/null && sudo apt-cache policy | grep lucid
[17:29] <tomreyn> triyo: if there's any output please post it to a pastebin again
[17:29] <fire_> dr_willis: no reply :(
[17:30] <nsaquatics> Is TJ in da house?
[17:30] <bekks> nsaquatics: Just take a look at "/names" :)
[17:30] <nsaquatics> well he often times changes his nick, which makes it really hard to keep track...
[17:30] <r14nul> hi
[17:31] <triyo> tomreyn: looks good, no sign on lucid
[17:31] <triyo> *on-of
[17:32] <r14nul> Ubuntu vs Windows 8 What Do you think ?
[17:32] <bekks> r14nul: Thats offtopic in here. :)
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> r14nul, we don't do comparisons or polls here only ubuntu support. ;)
[17:33] <CaliBoy> so
[17:33] <CaliBoy> my ubuntu isnt working right
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> CaliBoy, So do you have a question?
[17:34] <CaliBoy> yes
[17:34] <r14nul> oh,i'm Sorry :)
[17:34] <k1l_> !ask | CaliBoy
[17:34] <tomreyn> triyo: okay, but there can be old packages still, let's look for them: sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions; apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate
[17:34] <nsaquatics> r14nul, did you really ask that question here? Dude you must have balls of steel.
[17:35] <Myke974_> lol
[17:35] <CaliBoy> haha
[17:35] <r14nul> nsaquatics : nothing :/ , this is First time using "IRC" lol
[17:35] <CaliBoy> reallj
[17:36] <r14nul> ya :)
[17:36] <CaliBoy> thought that might be the case
[17:36] <nsaquatics> r14nul, gotcha... well welcome to IRC...
[17:36] <triyo> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193097/
[17:37] <triyo> List goes on and on..
[17:37] <triyo> That doesn't sound good considering that it can't find any in arch.
[17:38] <triyo> tomreyn: I need to step away for 10min brb; pimg you when I'm back
[17:38] <tomreyn> triyo: when you say "list goes on and on" does it mean there was more output than what you posted?
[17:38] <tomreyn> o
[17:38] <tomreyn> ok
[17:38] <triyo> tomreyn: yes, console buffr ran out...
[17:39] <triyo> you need the full list?
[17:39] <CaliBoy> http://omegle.com/
[17:40] <CaliBoy> http://omegle.com/
[17:40] <CaliBoy> omegle.com/
[17:40] <DJones> CaliBoy: Stop spamming
[17:40] <bazhang> CaliBoy, stop that
[17:40] <CaliBoy> http://omegle.
[17:42] <tolmun> iceroot: right, it was after full update which also contains kernel update.
[17:43] <r14nul> How To Secure Ubuntu ( Firewall ) ?
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> r14nul  install ufw
[17:43] <dr_willis> theres more to secureing then just a firewall.
[17:43] <fire_> r14nul: but by default there is firewall GUI pre-installed
[17:43] <dr_willis> !firewall > r14nul
[17:43] <unless> Hello guys!
[17:44] <fire_> firewall is just like 1 step to secure your system.
[17:44] <fire_> unless: :)
[17:44] <bekks> fire_: Wrong :) The first step is a list of requirements :)
[17:45] <fire_> bekks: :P But for me i don't require a list, everything comes up in my mind one after the other. :D
[17:45] <bekks> fire_: That sounds like chaos :D
[17:45] <unless> I was trying to install some code from source and I really made a mess at my disk. I have installed lot of compiler and stuff. Now I want to know if there is a way to restore my preview system like before? :P
[17:46] <fire_> bekks: for other not for me :D cause went through this steps so many times, that they have got hard wired in my brian. :D
[17:46] <ab-cd> unless: to shut it down? :D
[17:46] <bekks> unless: Not without a backup or knowing what you've installed in detail.
[17:47] <DasEi> unless: I'm not sure if there was an uninstaller in your tarball, else can llok up apt's log for recently installed package ; use a vm next time you do experiments
[17:48] <unless> DasEi, yes, that is the idea :P
[17:48] <fire_> unless: i have installed lot of compiler ?? if yes that uninstall them. remove all those things which you thing are unneccesary for you now
[17:48] <unless> OkropNick, thank you guys!
[17:48] <tomtiger11> fire_: Whats your brian?
[17:49] <fire_> tomtiger11: brain* it happens, as i told it's hard wired (circuits) instead of normal chemical reactions that must take place. :D
[17:49] <DasEi> unless: the more harsh an detailed way : see listing of dpkg -I and decide, what can be gone (try by --dry-run switch first hand, as some essentials tend to pull half the os off when asked to be removed)
[17:49] <fire_> really here there are funny guys than other channels on irc. :D
[17:50] <tomtiger11> fire_: So other things are hard-wired into your brain, but not how to spell 'brain'? XD
[17:50] <unless> DasEi, ok
[17:50] <W4sp> unless: I suggest you check the history of shell commands for the user(s) involved in the process of 'install some code from source' that 'a mess at my disk'. See you log files and jot down what you've done to get there. See the install scripts where all that finally ended up.
[17:51] <DasEi> unless: good tip , from w4s.. , also see bash-history
[17:51] <fire_> tomtiger11: so that's where my hard wired brain comes into play, it isn't good at literature because it's a master in 10101010 :P
[17:51] <trupheenix> anyone here who can help me with a bind9 setup?
[17:51] <W4sp> unless: Use 'history > ~/messed' for a reference.
[17:51] <DasEi> !vm | unless
[17:52] <unless> And how about the installed contents I've made. I haven't defined a path for it, how can I check where it installed?
[17:52] <tomtiger11> fire_: lol
[17:52] <jagginess> unless, ?
[17:52] <fire_> tomtiger11: how long with ubuntu  or linux ?
[17:53] <W4sp> unless: Those files probably went to /usr/local/bin and whereever. That's where your Makefile comes into picture. Open it and see what $INSTALL has to tell you.
[17:53] <unless> jagginess, very confused here :P Should have used a VM to be honest.
[17:53] <jagginess> fire_, ubuntu is a linux
[17:53] <jagginess> lol
[17:53] <tomtiger11> fire_: Me? A good few years XD
[17:53] <fire_> jagginess: he might be using other linux distro before.
[17:53] <trupheenix> i'm trying to set up bind9 on my machine for my domain. but my mail server is on a different ip which is not the same as the dns server. how do i create a reverse dns entry for my mail server?
[17:54] <trupheenix> my reverse dns lookups are failing
[17:55] <jagginess> trupheenix, ?
[17:55] <trupheenix> jagginess my mail server is on a different subnet.
[17:55] <DasEi> trupheenix: dnsmasq comes to my mind
[17:55] <jagginess> trupheenix, you need an mx record, perhaps too a reverse address record as well
[17:56] <DasEi> !info dnsmasq
[17:56] <jagginess> trupheenix, by default 12.04+ dnsmasq comes installed..
[17:56] <DasEi> trupheenix: that also allows routing-functions
[17:56] <trupheenix> jagginess, i am confused how to set up the reverse record. forward lookups work fine. but the problem comes in specifying the reverse dns entry. i'm not sure how the format should be if the server is on a different subnet from the dns.
[17:57] <jagginess> trupheenix, by default dnsmasq listens on 127.0.0.1, perhaps you may want to change that
[17:57] <trupheenix> jagginess, DasEi sorry I am still using 10.04 server edition :(
[17:57] <DasEi> trupheenix: same there
[17:57] <azizLIGHTS> how do i check if i have a certain package installed, on command line
[17:57] <trupheenix> DasEi, i am required to use bind9
[17:57] <mutio> trupheenix // No chance of just putting the mail server onto the same subnet?
[17:57] <jagginess> trupheenix, mail clients find mx servers through mx records.. some clients like to do reverse-ip checkups.. you'll have to read up about that :/
[17:57] <DasEi> azizLIGHTS: dpkg -I | grep <packageName>
[17:58] <jagginess> trupheenix, mail clients (as other smtp mta servers)
[17:58] <jagginess> trupheenix, your mail server wouldn't be able to serve over the internet of course..
[17:58] <trupheenix> mutio, no chance :(
[17:58] <jrib> azizLIGHTS: apt-cache policy package
[17:59] <jagginess> azizLIGHTS, dpkg -l|grep -i <keyword>
[17:59] <azizLIGHTS> dpjg -I is trying to install
[18:00] <azizLIGHTS> apt-cache policy package says unable to locate package poliocyuy
[18:00] <jagginess> azizLIGHTS, "l" is not I .
[18:00] <azizLIGHTS> thanks jagginess that did it
[18:00] <azizLIGHTS> jagginess: he typed I
[18:00] <jrib> azizLIGHTS: replace "package" with your package name...
[18:00] <azizLIGHTS> ok jrib , thanks
[18:01] <jagginess> azizLIGHTS, -l lists, use grep if you know part of the substring name of a package, --> apt-cache policy <full package name> is another command which doesnt do the same as dpkg -l
[18:01] <W4sp> Inconsolata is an excellent font that prevents these kind of goof-ups.
[18:01] <jrib> well -I was suggested originally
[18:02] <tomtiger11> What does SingleSignOn actually do>
[18:02] <tomtiger11> ?*
[18:02] <jagginess> DasEi got it wrong, it's supposed to be -l
[18:03] <DasEi> jagginess: right thx, that I would be info ^ , azizLIGHTS
[18:03] <azizLIGHTS> i see! thanks all
[18:03] <xzaz> Does anyone know if we can send parameters to a running process (by PID id or something liek that). We run a java application and want to send commands to this application while its running and waiting for commands
[18:03]  * jagginess thinks synaptic is a gui that may be able to help
[18:04] <tomtiger11> Oh, right.
[18:04] <mutio> xzaz // you mean like a pipe?
[18:04] <jagginess> xzaz, refer to that program's documentation.
[18:04] <jagginess> xzaz, give me a break :)
[18:04] <DasEi> xzaz: can't tell for java, top least allows you to general processes, overasked there, there also was another 1or 2 ways
[18:04] <xzaz> jagginess: We created to program our self
[18:05] <xzaz> mutio: Will look into that
[18:05] <tomtiger11> I asked someone earlied how i can have one set of credentials for a user, and for those credentials to work on any computer in the network, and have all of the same files, but got an incorrect answer. How would I do this?
[18:05] <jagginess> tomtiger11, huh?
[18:06] <jagginess> tomtiger11, are you asking to share the same files with other users?
[18:06] <mac9416> Hello, I am trying to connect to Freenode using Empathy, but I get "authentication failed". Strange, because authenication is not even technically required, no?
[18:06] <DasEi> tomtiger11: you can have a centralised server with the users homedirs and profiles
[18:06] <tomtiger11> DasEi: Exactly what I was thinking, but how do i set that up?
[18:06] <DasEi> user's
[18:06] <xzaz> We started the project by using NOHUP in the background and we want to give program after launching a action to do; like "give_log"
[18:07] <xzaz> That was the idea
[18:07] <DasEi> tomtiger11: depends on the whole situation, you can have diskless servers, a server-client structure, and many more apporaches, whole story ?
[18:07] <slackguru> Has anyone successfully installed all four openjdk-6-jdk, openjdk-7-jdk, jdk-6u35 and jdk-7u7 and then be able to switch between through alternatives?
[18:07] <tomtiger11> DasEi: Ive got to go, be back in 5 minutes :)
[18:07] <jagginess> DasEi, diskless servers? wtf?
[18:08] <Cobra> are there any good tutorials for beginners? something that can maybe show me the basics and how to navigate the system?
[18:08] <DasEi>  tomtiger11in a small environment can have just a nas, where you put the homedirs in
[18:08] <tomreyn> triyo: i did not respond because you said you were about to leave. i don't need the full list right now. all of these are actually packages in natty, so i wonder why it would list those anyways. please try installing pastebinit again (sudo apt-get install pastebinit). if it worked, please run: apt-show-versions | grep uptodate | head -n 200 | pastebinit
[18:08] <jagginess> slackguru, yeah.. there's a gui app called 'galternatives' that can change it for all users
[18:08] <DasEi> jagginess: clients, just triedto figure out what was been looking for
[18:09] <ThinkT510> !manual | Cobra
[18:09] <slackguru> jagginess, I don't care about other users, I just want to be sure none of the remnants of the other flavors of java won't be seen
[18:09] <Cobra> thanks
[18:09] <jagginess> Cobra, /usr/share/doc, dpkg -L <packagename>  , pretty much two things you need to know on dpkg linux systems
[18:09] <slackguru> jagginess, Android still doesn't like java7 even though it says it does.
[18:10] <jagginess> !android
[18:10] <jagginess> slackguru, you're in #ubuntu (android is um ..)
[18:10] <jagginess> wonder how he got that mixed up :)
[18:12] <lionrouge> hi
[18:12] <lionrouge> tell me please how to install only grub with ubuntu livecd
[18:13] <jagginess> lionrouge, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:13] <parto> lionrouge, hi
[18:13] <lionrouge> thanks, will try
[18:14] <lionrouge> ubuntu crashed my boot ))
[18:14] <lionrouge> tried 12.10 livecd - couldn't boot live environment
[18:14] <lionrouge> tried 12.04 x64 - freezed at booting with graphical artefacts
[18:15] <lionrouge> tried 12.04 x32 - crashed boot
[18:15] <mutio> lionrouge, what kind of video have you got?
[18:15] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | lionrouge
[18:15] <megane> i have removed caps lock with setxkbmap (nocaps). everything else with the caps lock seems to work ok but C-b. can you help me debug this? here's some info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193148/
[18:15] <jilt007> guys tell me how t opassword protect single usermode ,
[18:16] <megane> i have other machine which gives the exact same output and there C-b (caps-lock + b) works
[18:16] <Troy^> even though i have port forwarded my ssh port i can't seem to connect externally, perhaps it is a sshd config option?
[18:16] <Tico> Hi, someone can help me with this problem? https://www.dropbox.com/s/i2qv0xaw0dlg68p/2012-09-08%2020.09.02.jpg
[18:17] <lionrouge> ThinkT510, thanks )
[18:17] <trupheenix> i want to know, how i can assign the subnet for my wifi hotspot when i create it on Ubuntu using the network manager?
[18:18] <lionrouge> but i was disappointed a lot
[18:18] <lionrouge> ubuntu pretend to be easy
[18:18] <bekks> lionrouge: It actually is :)
[18:18] <lionrouge> maybe
[18:19] <lionrouge> until smth. unexpected happens
[18:19] <jilt007> Any   One !
[18:19] <tomtiger11> dase
[18:19] <tomtiger11> Whoops
[18:20] <Tico> someone can help me? https://www.dropbox.com/s/i2qv0xaw0dlg68p/2012-09-08%2020.09.02.jpg
[18:20] <Tico> please
[18:20] <trupheenix> how do i configure the ip addresses of my ubuntu wifi hotspot?
[18:20] <tomtiger11> Anyway, Like DasEi said before he ping time outed, How would I go about having a central server with every users files on?
[18:20] <tomtiger11> and login through the server at any ubuntu workstation in the network
[18:21] <bekks> tomtiger11: You would set up an LDAP server for authentication and an LTSP server for login in.
[18:21] <Troy^> ok i look online and it is saying my specified ssh port is open externally but i can't seem to connect to my external ip using the port
[18:21] <slauter> comment mettre le gestionnaire de fichier, sur le burreau ?
[18:21] <mutio> trupheenix // are you assigning addresses by dhcp?
[18:21] <bekks> !fr | slauter
[18:22] <megane> here's what xsel says when typing b with caps-lock pressed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193167/ it's clearly wrong
[18:22] <trupheenix> mutio, the ip addresses get assigned by dhcp
[18:23] <Guido1> Hello, i have a problem with uninstalling programs - ubuntu 10.04 - If i try to uninstal i got the message that the pakage is broeken. what can i do?
[18:23] <trupheenix> mutio, the wifi hotspot itself creates a range starting with 10.42.43. something
[18:23] <trupheenix> mutio,  i want it to assign as 192.168.43 .something
[18:23] <lionrouge> trupheenix, you should setup your router
[18:23] <lionrouge> with it's web-interface
[18:24] <trupheenix> lionroutge not my router. i am trying to use my ubuntu laptop as a wifi hotspot
[18:24] <lionrouge> oh
[18:24] <mutio> trupheenix // does it really matter? 10.x is a bigger subnet.
[18:25] <trupheenix> mutio, thing is i am doing some development and i have a dns running on my laptop. i plan to use my laptop hotspot when there is a power cut.
[18:25] <Tico> i need help with this https://www.dropbox.com/s/i2qv0xaw0dlg68p/2012-09-08%2020.09.02.jpg :(
[18:25] <triyo> tomreyn: sudo apt-get install pastebinit => still deps issue
[18:25] <tomreyn> Guido1: install the package, then uninstall it
[18:25] <trupheenix> mutio, so i want the laptop hotspot to use everything in the exact same way as my router is configured to use.
[18:25] <tomreyn> triyo: can you post that output please
[18:25] <luftikuss> Tico: It says that it cannot mount. But you have not given eonough information so that I could judge why it cannot mount.
[18:26] <mutio> trupheenix // why not change the router to 10.x? it's a bigger subnet
[18:26] <Guido1> tomreyn: how can i do it? in the center i only have the option to uninstal. i gues via the terminal. the problem apears by some more programs
[18:27] <Tico> luftikuss: i used unetbootin for creating bootable usb to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS on mac
[18:27] <trupheenix> mutio, sound plausible to me
[18:27] <trupheenix> mutio, but then the problem still remains! :(
[18:27] <triyo> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193179/
[18:28] <tomreyn> Guido1: run this in a terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install
[18:28] <trupheenix> mutio, i should be able to configure the ip address of my wifi hotspot so that the dns ip remains same. that way i don't have to change all the dns records.
[18:28] <luftikuss> Tico: I see. Unfortunately I cannot help you as I am not familiar with Mac.
[18:29] <Tico> luftikuss: okey...
[18:29] <trupheenix> mutio, looks like i will be needing to configure avahi?
[18:29] <tomtiger11> bekks: And what do I install to connect to my ltsp server?
[18:29] <CaptainKnots> Which password hashing algorithm does ubuntu 12.04 use by default?
[18:29] <mutio> trupheenix // don't know, I can't run servers visible to the external internet. my isp are meanies
[18:30] <bekks> tomtiger11: A stock desktop manager, which creates a session on the terminal server.
[18:30] <trupheenix> mutio, why not? u can always get a static ip?
[18:30] <Bruce`Willis> jag är bara en katt som vet at man måste välja för att få kunskap
[18:30] <tomtiger11> bekks: A what now?
[18:30] <bekks> tomtiger11: Now, you have to go through the docs of LTSP to see that it isnt a thing of 10 minutes of configuring.
[18:31] <luftikuss> Tico: I'd advise you to repeat your question in this channel a while later with mentioning Mac. May be a knowledgeable person appears.
[18:31] <tomreyn> triyo: this isutation doesn't make much sense to me. maybe one of your partitions ran full? please post the output of: df -h
[18:31] <tomreyn> *situation
[18:31] <tomtiger11> bekks: Would I need the LDAP server?
[18:31] <mutio> trupheenix // my mean isp doesn't let any incoming connections to servers, even with a dynamic dns service. they say it's against their TOS
[18:31] <bekks> tomtiger11: If you want to have a centralized authentication instance, yes. Nothing has changed since some minutes ago.
[18:31] <tomreyn> !dk | Bruce`Willis
[18:32] <trupheenix> mutio, oh you should look at one of those SME /SOHO type connections. they allow on those.
[18:32] <mutio> trupheenix // they simpy block any incoming traffic that wasn't initiated with outgoing traffic
[18:32] <tomtiger11> bekks: And I install and configure LDAPClient whatever on the computers connecting?
[18:32] <Guido1> tomreyn: thanks, now i can remove the programs
[18:32] <Guido1> do you know someone for VLC and sound problems?
[18:32] <silverghost> elooo can any one tell me is the bug resolv.conf changes after reboot sorted ?
[18:33] <bekks> tomtiger11: There is nothing like "ldapclient". You have to configure the clients to authenticate using LDAP.
[18:33] <bekks> tomtiger11: Nothing to be done in 5 minutes.
[18:33] <bipolar> I'm using pam cached credentials on laptops. It works great when connected to the local network, or when completely disconnected. My problem is when the laptop is connected to a network off site. Since the servers are not on the network, I get a delay when logging in. The delay matches the BIND_TIMEOUT setting in /etc/ldap.conf. When there is no network, the bind attempt fails immediately so I get no timeout. Is there a way to fix this without changing th
[18:33] <bipolar> e BIND_TIMEOUT setting? I'm trying to keep my configuration as clean as possible, so I'd rather not use a postinst script on my auth deb to change it. Everything else is setup with auth-client-config.
[18:33] <tomreyn> Guido1: nobody specifically, no, but you can just ask here or on the applications' channel.
[18:34] <silverghost> guido1 use smplayer its cool
[18:34] <Tico> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on mac mountain lion via usbstick created with unetbootin, with nointremap on bootline and  i get this error https://www.dropbox.com/s/i2qv0xaw0dlg68p/2012-09-08%2020.09.02.jpg someone knows why?
[18:35] <Troy^> anyone help me with vsftpd Response:	500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot() i'm getting this on login?
[18:35] <Bruce`Willis> buddhism är en utveckling av indoeuropesk religion men den har missat målet
[18:36] <Guido1> tomreyn: okee, if i want to play a movie with VLC it sounds strange - with a back noice. I also have problems if i play a sound with mozilla as mailalert. i gues it is a comone plugin or something like that
[18:36] <tomreyn> Tico: looks like your nickname is changing from time to time.
[18:36] <silverghost> resolv.conf changes after reboot in ubuntu is this bug sorted out eh
[18:36] <Tico> tomreyn: someone  wanted the nickname as michelle and my real nickname is Tico :P
[18:37] <samuel> Hello, I need someone to give me the link of the download of Ubuntu 12, since I'm in Arch Linux, and my X server broke, I can't take any links trough the text based web browser.
[18:37] <jaakka> hi
[18:37] <Bruce`Willis> hur kan du tro det
[18:37] <bekks> !dk | Bruce`Willis
[18:37] <jaakka> samuel, http or ftp?
[18:38] <Tico> tomreyn: can you help me :P?
[18:38] <samuel> jaakka: I'll get it through wget, I don't know what is better.
[18:38] <ThatOtherPerson> Is there any way I can move the toolbars in Unity?
[18:38] <tomreyn> Guido1: this could be specific to your hardware, but i'm not able to help right now. i suggest you ask everyone in here.
[18:38] <abcdefgh> a todos los criticones FUCK U :)
[18:38] <bipolar> sorry... that's bind_timelimit not BIND_TIMEOUT
[18:39] <abcdefgh> a veces la vida cambia en menos de 1 seg. :
[18:39] <samuel> jaakka: So will you do it? I guess ftp
[18:39] <triyo> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193211/
[18:40] <Guido1> tomreyn: Okee
[18:40] <Guido1> I have a problem by plaing sounds as mailalert from seamonkey / mozilla and vlc player, but if i use for example toetemand play the same sound i have no problems at al
[18:40] <jaakka> samuel : 32 bit : http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso 64 bit : http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:40] <samuel> jaakka: Thanks :)
[18:40] <exiff> Hello, be tharr a way to encrypt a partition with data on it?
[18:41] <bekks> exiff: Nope.
[18:41] <Troy^> hmm please help with vsftpd Response:	500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot() getting this on login for a user that i want restricted to specifically the home directory
[18:41] <exiff> Curses.
[18:41] <tomreyn> triyo: not really, looks like the image you have on your usb key is broken (again). be sure to not unplug the usb key before you ran 'eject' on it or used the GUI to 'unready' it.
[18:42] <exiff> Thanks bekks
[18:42] <jaakka> samuel, if youre behind restrictive firewall i can setup something faster
[18:42] <triyo> tomreyn: Something is really strange. When the apt runs.... I get some seriously heavy IO activity
[18:42] <bekks> triyo: Define "serious heavy" please.
[18:43] <Guest23301> Hi there!
[18:43] <triyo> bekks: I cant alt-tab windows when it runs....
[18:43] <triyo> Degradation of performance.
[18:44] <triyo> But unreasonably bad
[18:44] <jaakka> anyone know if one can remove avahi ?
[18:44] <jaakka> zeroconf is basicly useless
[18:44] <tomreyn> triyo: what does this return? lsb_release -d
[18:45] <tomtiger11> bekks: PXE would work, wouldnt it?
[18:45] <triyo> Ubuntu 11.04
[18:45] <jaakka> triyo, time to upgrade
[18:45] <jaakka> triyo, 12.04 is already LTS
[18:46] <bfortified> can someone point me in the direction of making a partitions on a second drive more seemless IE not show up in devices list and removable devices applet?
[18:46] <tomreyn> triyo: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get check   # then post the output of all threee commands
[18:47] <triyo> jaakka: true that; however I need this one to run till end of Monday. I have some work stuff I need to demo. And the problem is I need some packages installed that are missing.
[18:47] <Shadal> Hey Guru's, quick question.. I'm getting a number of ' kernel: iptables denied: ' in my syslog from SRC=0.0.0.0 - Is this common or do I have a config error somewhere?
[18:47] <tomreyn> triyo: whenever i pass you multiple commands on a single line, separated by ; then you can just copy and paste them all together including the ; and run them as a single line
[18:47] <mutio> bfortified // if you did that, then if the second drive ever had trouble or failed, you wouldn't know
[18:47] <battlehands> I'm trying to install lubuntu on my netbook, which doesn't have a built in cd drive.  So, I have the iso file on a CD and the CD drive connected, but I can't specify the netbook to boot from the CD in the bios.  Please advise.
[18:48] <bfortified> mutio, these device get mounted in /home/user/
[18:48] <jaakka> battlehands, do you have a usb flash drive?
[18:48] <jaakka> that would be the easiest way
[18:48] <battlehands> jaakka, yes, but I don't know how to make a bootable usb drive.
[18:48] <luyang> I'm about to install Code::Blocks IDE! Is there a channel discussing its usage?
[18:48] <Troy^> battlehands: you say you have the iso on a cd... did you burn a data cd or a image disc?
[18:48] <jaakka> battlehands, this is simple as pie, do you use windows or ubuntu atm?
[18:48] <battlehands> Troy^, I burned an image disc
[18:49] <battlehands> jaakka, windows on this machine
[18:49] <nyRednek> question, how do i get bitlbee going in precise?
[18:49] <Troy^> battlehands: here you go http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:49] <mutio> battlehands // what can your netbook boot from?
[18:49] <bfortified> mutio, does that make sense? I ant them to be more seemless in the system
[18:50] <jaakka> battlehands : http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[18:50] <battlehands> mutio, hdd, fdd, lan
[18:50] <Pond> quit
[18:50] <jaakka> you can make a bootable flash drive
[18:50] <Troy^> jaakka: my link is better :P
[18:50] <jaakka> and next step set boot off usb in bios
[18:50] <DasEi> battlehands: another way (usb shall be easier ) : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[18:50] <triyo> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193228/
[18:51] <jaakka> Troy^ : i could provide autoinstallation via PXE remote
[18:51] <Troy^> eww
[18:51] <jaakka> its dead easy :) , click and run
[18:51] <battlehands> with hdd, fdd, and lan available, which to I select to boot from?
[18:51] <jaakka> battlehands, something along the lines of usb-hdd, usb-fdd or smth
[18:51] <DasEi> battlehands: I'd try unetbootin (for 'buntu least) first, and don't forget to format usb first, even fat on older ones, there unetbootin tricked me some times
[18:51] <bfortified> mutio, and they caint even be ejected in these menus as they are owned by roo, seems pointless to list them there if you caint do anything with it
[18:52] <battlehands> DasEi, what is unetbootin?
[18:52] <DasEi> !info unetbootin
[18:52] <mutio> bfortified // I think (not sure) the second drive will always count as a separate drive to device listings. it's part of the os
[18:52] <DasEi> battlehands: which us are you chatting from now ?
[18:52] <DasEi> os*
[18:52] <bekks> tomtiger11: Depends on wether you set up a PXE server, and wether your network adapters will support PXE.
[18:52] <Tico> is someone who is familiar with mac and unetbootin?
[18:52] <battlehands> DasEi, windows 7
[18:53] <tomtiger11> Could i install gPXE on a hard drive?
[18:53] <jaakka> bekks, seriosly every ethernet adapter today supports PXE
[18:53] <bfortified> mutio, ok was afraid of that thank though
[18:53] <battlehands> DasEi, I'm not sure how to use unetbootin
[18:53] <DasEi> battlehands: fine, there is unetbootin, too, format the stick first, d/l and verify installer iso, use untbtin'  for make the stick bootable, insert, re-boot, call bios > first disk is usb then
[18:54] <bekks> tomtiger11: No. Because the network adapter has to be able to use PXE.
[18:54] <jaakka> battlehands, if you are using windows, then Troy's or mine is easier
[18:54] <bekks> jaakka: You never dealt with Realtek, dont you? :)
[18:54] <DasEi> battlehands: nvm, d/l and install in windows, then ask again, an easy one
[18:54] <jaakka> bekks, i dont use shitty hardware :)
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> battlehands  in short: put iso on usb stick, boot from usb stick, done
[18:54] <Troy^> install in windows? i wouldn't trust that
[18:54] <battlehands> jaakka, I just don't know what do select in my netbook's bios to boot from
[18:54] <bfortified> Troy^, your my samba guy! you there?
[18:54] <battlehands> okay guys
[18:55] <battlehands> let me make the boot stick first
[18:55] <battlehands> baby steps
[18:55] <jaakka> battlehands, what are the options?
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> battlehands, Not only can you load the usb with a single ISO for install there are lots of these loaders and ones that will allow multiple OS on a single usb for use when needed like for installs and repairs.
[18:55] <bekks> jaakka: It's not my fault that Realtek sells their network adapters :)
[18:55] <battlehands> hdd, fdd, lan
[18:55] <battlehands> brb
[18:55] <Troy^> bfortified: yea i'm here
[18:55] <DasEi> Troy^: install unetbootin in win, sure
[18:55] <jaakka> battlehands, this cant be all :p
[18:55] <tomtiger11> bekks: gPXE
[18:55] <trijntje> i'm trying to share a desktop between two ubuntu computers, but the screen is not updated properly, remnants of old windows keep overlapping the current window. What can I do to fix this?
[18:55] <bekks> tomtiger11: And...?
[18:55] <Troy^> DasEi: not what i mean't but yea
[18:55] <spoofkelberry> Hi everyone, I'm having an issue with dual monitors. I have it enabled, and I have the launcher on auto hide, but it's not easy to move my mouse between the displays. It sticks if I don't thrust my mouse hard enough.
[18:55] <tomtiger11> Theres a difference XD
[18:55] <jaakka> bekks, luckily in server enviroment you either get intel or marvel
[18:56] <bekks> tomtiger11: PXE is a feature your network adapter has to support, it is nothing that is installed and magically makes your computers boot from PXE.
[18:56] <bekks> jaakka: I know. :)
[18:56] <tomreyn> triyo: please post the output of: apt-show-versions | grep uptodate | head -n 20
[18:57] <tomreyn> triyo: i'm sorry we're not making much progress ;-) i don't really understand how your system can be in the situation it is in, and am still trying to find out.
[18:57] <jaakka> bekks, any idea if avahi is needed, i dont really use zeroconf or bonjour
[18:57] <tomtiger11> bekks: So how do I know if my card supports pxe?
[18:58] <mutio> tomtiger11 // what make and model of NIC?
[18:58] <jaakka> bekks, i could just remove the package , but no idea if itll impact a stand-alone xubuntu installation
[18:58] <bekks> tomtiger11: By looking ip the technical specifications of every card in every client.
[18:58] <DasEi> battlehands: you can oc also dissamble the hd, install a core system on another box and re-assemble, dirtiest thing I ever done was using a minimal debian by dd, then changed sources, but unetbootin shall do the trick, if lappy's bioas sees it as bootable drive
[18:58] <bekks> jaakka: Sorry, I was not following your request.
[18:58] <bfortified> Troy^, got samba working fine on my nix boxes but i allways get prompted for uname + pass on win machines, I am using a very simple smb.conf setup [family share]
[18:58] <bfortified>         comment = Family Files
[18:58] <bfortified>         browsable = yes
[18:58] <bfortified>         path = /media/family
[18:58] <bfortified>         guest ok = yes
[18:58] <FloodBot1> bfortified: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <bfortified>         read only = no
[18:59] <Troy^> bfortified: let me show you mine
[18:59] <jaakka> bekks, i was just trying to remove unneccerary packages, portmap , apache2 and so forth, just asking if removing avahi would damage anything
[18:59] <tomtiger11> bekks: I don't know what cards are installed XD
[18:59] <bekks> tomtiger11: Then you have to find it out.
[18:59] <jaakka> tomtiger11, everything is basicly in /proc
[18:59] <bekks> jaakka: I dont know, sorry.
[19:00] <mutio> tomtiger11 // a "dmesg | less' should tell you what kind of ethernet the os is seeing
[19:00] <jaakka> tomtiger11, lspci always helps
[19:01] <Troy^> bfortified: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193247/
[19:01] <Troy^> bfortified: that is all that is in my /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:02] <GeekAdmin> Is there an edition of Ubuntu or a distro of Ubuntu that comes with AVG, AVAST, and ClamAV?
[19:02] <bfortified> Troy^, thanks i will try setting up the global and look into the mask
[19:02] <DasEi> battlehands:  d/l and install unetbootin and installer-iso in windows,  ask again, if unsure
[19:02] <spoofkelberry> You shouldn't neeed anti-virus on ubuntu, haha.
[19:02] <triyo> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193251/
[19:02] <Troy^> bfortified: do you have the drives mounted in windows 7? you know what i mean?
[19:02] <battlehands> Okay.  I feel like a totaly baller... I just created a bootable usb drive with lubuntu image.
[19:02] <battlehands> now what do I do on my netbook?
[19:03] <battlehands> DasEi, I'm not installing the image on this computer.
[19:03] <ezrafree> hello
[19:03] <bfortified> Troy^, Im not sure i understand. Any time i try to go to them 7 and XP it prompts for uname + psswd
[19:03] <Guido1> I have a problem by plaing sounds as a mailalert from seamonkey / mozilla and plaing sounds with vlc player, but if i use for example toetem and play the same sound i have no problems at al
[19:03] <DasEi> battlehands: all clear, but you need it to make a bootable ubuntu-installation-media on the stick
[19:04] <battlehands> DasEi, so the image I put on the drive is not currently bootable?
[19:04] <Troy^> bfortified: have you added them as mounted in my computer? so you can just click on them and they are given a drive letter
[19:04] <DasEi> !info unetbootin | battleh
[19:04] <battlehands> DasEi, I don't understand that message.
[19:05] <ezrafree> has anyone ever seen this, i am suddenly (after years of running Escreen theme for Eterm) getting this error: Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[19:05] <DasEi> battlehands: the untbtin' is just a tool to convert the cd iso to boot from a stick, so all installer files are needed first hand
[19:05] <bfortified> Troy^, In windows? map the drive? It wont let me without uname etc. Right no just trying to browse to them through the workgroup
[19:05] <mutio> Guido1 // maybe those apps are using different mixer settings which result in less noise?
[19:05] <battlehands> DasEi, okay.  So first the file, which I did, and now the bootable stuff.
[19:05] <DasEi> battlehands: has nothing to do with installing ubu on windows
[19:05] <DasEi> right
[19:05] <battlehands> k
[19:05] <Troy^> bfortified: put the username and pass in
[19:06] <bfortified> Troy^, thats the problem i dont have one
[19:06] <Guido1> mutio: if i play this sound on another computer, also ubuntu 10.04 and with vlc i have no problems
[19:06] <DasEi> battlehands: and also, did you check the image for not beeing corrupt or least torrented it down ?
[19:06] <Troy^> bfortified: doh, it is the uname and pass of your linux box. or it may possibly be blank
[19:06] <bfortified> Troy^, nope tried all that
[19:06] <mutio> Guido1 // a different computer might have a different sound card and speakers?
[19:06] <jilt007> *
[19:07] <DasEi> !md5sum | battlehands
[19:07] <Troy^> use a copy of my smb.conf bfortified
[19:07] <Troy^> bfortified: just modify it
[19:07] <battlehands> DasEi, windows verifies automatically
[19:08] <tomreyn> triyo: and this? apt-cache policy wpasupplicant
[19:08] <DasEi> battlehands: just take that quarter of time for installing the tool and md5sum on win, can easily be found, format stick by windows-utility, ask if gui of tool is of any questions
[19:08] <Guido2> i'm back. my messanger just crasched
[19:08] <bfortified> Troy^, yea i bet its the lack of a global section in my .conf. I as uner the impresion that asnt nessacery for simple shares and its not for nix boxes but perhaps thats what is giving me the fits on my dohs boxes. Thanks again that should get me pointed in the right direction
[19:08] <battlehands> guys, lubuntu is not on the distribution list of unetbootin...
[19:08] <maicod> certain vmware tools functions fail to install with saying I should make sure 'make, binutils, gcc and running kernel sources' are present. I think I'm missing the kernel sources. How to install them?
[19:09] <battlehands> yes it is
[19:09] <battlehands> my eyes are tired
[19:09] <DasEi> battlehands: use the standard ubuntu, but mind 32/64
[19:09] <DasEi> and.. ah you found it
[19:09] <jimm_> what is Reboot Exploit patch date?
[19:09] <triyo> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193260/
[19:10] <DasEi> !headers  | maicod
[19:10] <Guido2> the sound is not played wel with vlc, if i set it as alert in mozilla, but it is in totem etc. and in the brouwser and on another computer - also ubuntu 10.04 i have no problems
[19:10] <battlehands> DasEi, how do Iknow which version I'm using?  I know it's 12.04 Desktop, but I don't know which one that is in the version list.
[19:10] <DasEi> maicod: have a look at FAQ of vbox, all nicely explained
[19:11] <DasEi> battlehands: 12.04 is precise pangolin
[19:11] <battlehands> pangolin?
[19:11] <OerHeks> battlehands, if you use that list, it will download again.
[19:11] <battlehands> geez
[19:11] <battlehands> OerHeks, wjhat?
[19:11] <jimm_> how to find Reboot Exploit patch date?
[19:11] <battlehands> OerHeks, oh! thanks!
[19:11] <triyo> tomreyn: is there no way to get verbose info from dependency errors?
[19:11] <OerHeks> use the option below, to add your own iso
[19:12] <battlehands> OerHeks, yeah I see it now.  Thanks  :)
[19:12] <DasEi> :)
[19:12] <battlehands> what a cool piece of software
[19:12] <OerHeks> multi functional yes
[19:12] <DasEi> ... have a tea, give it some time to pull the bag, all easy
[19:12] <tomtiger11> mutio: I don't have the computers here XD
[19:12] <maicod> ubottu: thanks. It says " linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic-pae is already the newest version.
[19:12] <maicod> LOL
[19:12] <bekks> tomtiger11: Then you have to investigate it when having physical access.
[19:13] <DasEi> maicod: sec, I gfu
[19:13] <tomreyn> triyo: gee, i just don't get it. you have a lot of natty packages installed, which is fine since this is supposed to be a natty system. you also have all the APT sources setup you need to have for natty. however, you have a whole bunch of natty packages where the system does no longer know they actually belong to natty, and that they are still available in natty by this name and in exactly the version you have.
[19:14] <tomreyn> maybe it makes more sense to have another peoson look into this, since i don't seem to make much progress now.
[19:14] <maicod> DasEi: sorry I didnt notice it was you controlling the bot :)
[19:14] <tomreyn> *person
[19:14] <bfortified> Troy^, does the security = user line make it so that a user account from the samba server has to used? My wife would have to use my acct or i would have to make her one to acces the share?
[19:14] <DasEi> maicod: I dont' it's the '!', see:
[19:14] <DasEi> !vm
[19:15] <ChaosRobie> hello I was wondering if anyone could help me with installation
[19:15] <absentbird> Hello, I am having a problem with my Nvidia driver.
[19:15] <DasEi> channel ro-bot
[19:15] <maicod> dasei: yeah I meant that you typed !headers
[19:15] <beduino> salve a tutti ho un prolema  la tastiera del portatile non mi scrive lacune lettere non penso che sia una cosa di pulizia  della tastiera cosa posso fare?
[19:15] <triyo> tomreyn: Thank you for spending your time on this. I'll see what I can do, else come early next week, I'll doa clean install.
[19:15] <kale> hi, after installing ubuntu 12, we get something that thinks its a tablet. now how do we get a normal desktop?
[19:16] <tomreyn> !it | beduino
[19:16] <DasEi> http://www.php2s.com/linux/how-to-quickly-install-virtualbox-4-1-on-ubuntu-12-04.html  , maicod
[19:16] <tomtiger11> How would I create a wired network of 13 computers?
[19:16] <Troy^> bfortified: security = user required uname and pass of the linux box and then windows will most likely never ask again especially if you have it mounted in my computer
[19:16] <tomtiger11> And have one of them a LTSP server
[19:16] <bfortified> Troy^, k
[19:16] <tomreyn> triyo: you're welcome, sorry we couldn't solve this
[19:16] <ChaosRobie> hello I was wondering if anyone could help me with installation
[19:16] <maicod> dasei: thats also counting for vmware ?
[19:16] <absentbird> Specifically when I go to configure displays it does not see my monitor(s)
[19:17] <DasEi> maicod: there is an extra channel for that, read given link, you probably also don't want the ose-version from repos I guess, ah sorry, no but similar, there
[19:17] <triyo> tomreyn: no worry, it does seem like a bit of an odd case.
[19:17] <rAad> I've got a list of environmental variables in a file. How can I use 'export' to add the environment vars?
[19:17] <absentbird> My home parition has also been used for a linux mint install so I think it might be something in my home folder causing the problem.
[19:17] <skroot> my win7 client cant authenticate over pptp. the chap file and his user account are identical and we know the password is right, however it says it is not
[19:17] <maicod> dasei: parts of vmware tools install fine but only a few functions like copy/paste from vm to host isnt installing :(
[19:18] <maicod> it says that I should check 'make, binutils, gcc and kernel source" and run it again
[19:18] <DasEi> maicod: look at their faqs, I'm off vmwaretools, but it's same there and also fine documted in the FAQ / free tuts
[19:18] <maicod> if I run vmware-config-tools.pl
[19:18] <tomreyn> triyo: one more thought - do you use a http proxy server by chance? echo $http_proxy
[19:18] <bekks> tomtiger11: Buy a 16 port gigabit ethernet switch, buy 16 cables, connect your computers to your switch. Install and configure LTSP on the "server". Done.
[19:18] <maicod> OK thanks
[19:19] <learc83> I'm loading ubuntu on a tablet with an Atmel touchscreen controller, Touchscreen doesn't work on 12.04, but does on 12.10, however beta 1 is ultra buggy on my hardware, If I install 12.04, and upgrade the kernel do you think the touchscreen will work?
[19:19] <tomtiger11> bekks: Right, Ok
[19:19] <bekks> tomtiger11: But first, take a look at the documentation of LTSP.
[19:19] <DasEi> learc83: why not just try by backports on 12.04 ?
[19:20] <bfortified> Troy^, LOL it never even prompted for uname etc
[19:20] <Brightgalrs> hello, I am looking for someone to walk me through a rather unique/complex installation process
[19:20] <bfortified> Troy^, Thanks man your a huge help
[19:20] <wolfric> i seem to be having a small problem... iptables doesn't seem to be working... i've just straight up added DROP to INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD  for iptables and ip6tables and everything goes on working as usual
[19:20] <jrib> !ask | Brightgalrs
[19:20] <wolfric> at the top of the list
[19:21] <tomtiger11> bekks: A 16 port ethernet swich is expensive
[19:21] <Troy^> bfortified: there you go i knew it was either one of those couldn't quite remember because i have the shared drives mount in my computer and they are always there accessible when i reboot etc.
[19:21] <21WAAFEW9> tomtiger11: No it is not, i have a 24 port one
[19:21] <bekks> tomtiger11: Well, there are no 13-port ones.
[19:21] <learc83> DasEi how do I try backports, is there just a package to install?
[19:22] <bekks> tomtiger11: And 16 port switches are not expensive - and this is starting to get offtopic in here.
[19:22] <DasEi> !backports | learc83
[19:22] <absentbird> So when I go to nvidia-settings it gives me an error. How can I fix that?
[19:22] <jrib> absentbird: I'd suggest mentioning the error
[19:22] <DasEi> learc83: you uncomment the according lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:22] <tomtiger11> bekks: Il steer it on-topic. Where do I get a 16 port ethernet swich from?
[19:22] <bekks> tomtiger11: From a shop.
[19:22] <learc83> DasEi thanks I'll try it
[19:22] <Troy^> lol
[19:23] <absentbird> jrex: I don't want to dump it here. Where is the right place to paste it?
[19:23] <jrib> !paste | absentbird
[19:23] <absentbird> jrex: this is the first line: You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.
[19:23] <Troy^> !pastebinit
[19:23] <DasEi> learc83: then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then might have to reboot (until using uptrack/Ksplice)
[19:23] <jrib> absentbird: what do you want to accomplish?
[19:24] <kale> is there a way to make the new ubuntu v12 look like the good old 10.04 lts?
[19:24] <absentbird> !pastebinit You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[19:24] <Brightgalrs> How do I install ubuntu on a netbook with the follow specifications (archlinux installed, no cd drive, forgetten username and password) with the following items (a ~1.8gb flashdrive, router connected to internet, desktop running windows 7).
[19:24] <absentbird> jrib: I want to use the Nvidia driver
[19:25] <jrib> absentbird: run "Hardware Drivers" (or whatever it's called nowadays).  The terminal command is « jockey-gtk »
[19:25] <jrib> !nvidia | absentbird
[19:25] <DasEi> kale: the core of all 'buntus is always same, just package selection isn't so can use any windowmanager which you then can finegrain to your likings
[19:26] <absentbird> jrib: I have followed the steps but I am still having issues.
[19:26] <Ericson2314> does anybody know how to adjust audio buffering?
[19:26] <jrib> absentbird: you need to be more specific.
[19:26] <Ericson2314> i have foudn that unity causes my sound to be choppy
[19:26] <OerHeks> Brightgalrs, like you did with arch ?
[19:26] <Guddu> My ubuntu is stuck on logout. It said Do you want to close all programs and no matter if i press Cancel or Log out button nothing happend
[19:26] <Ericson2314> even cinnamon (sans desktop effects) which is still gnome 3 under the hood doesn't have the problem (too bad at least)
[19:26] <Brightgalrs> OerHeks: my friend helped me install arch, I don't know exactly how to do that
[19:26] <theixle> absentbird: I had a bad experience recently with NVIDIA proprietary drivers. There is news that NVIDIA is releasing some new OPTIMUS supported drivers, so if that's your case you may want to just wait.
[19:27] <leslie_> G'day to all, I am having a problem connecting to the internet on another computer I just installed  Ubuntu 12.04 on I am showing that I am connected to the Router, but cannot connect outside.  I could sure use some help
[19:27] <kale> DasEi: so do you know which windowmanager i am missing on v12?
[19:27] <Guddu> I did a shutdown and it opened and that dialgo box has same problems....can't shutdown either
[19:27] <theixle> I apologize for being late to the convo so I odn't have the full backstory.
[19:27] <Guddu> I have pressed the buttton 10 times now
[19:27] <Guddu> please help
[19:27] <Guddu> Shall i do a POWER OFF?
[19:27] <jrib> kale: please just call it 12.04, there isn't really a "v12"
[19:27] <DasEi> !pure gnome | kale
[19:27] <absentbird> jrib: Well I thought I had the Nvidia drivers properly set up but I am still getting an error from `nvidia-settings` that says I am not using them.
[19:28] <jrib> absentbird: so what happens when you run « jockey-gtk »?
[19:28] <countley> were can i watch movies online using ubuntu
[19:28] <DasEi> what was the trigger for pure gnome ?
[19:28] <Guddu> Basically none of the windows are closing
[19:28] <shihan> guddu: if you dont need antying on the desktop, hit ctrl-alt-f1, login then type "sudo poweroff"
[19:29] <jrib> !puregnome | DasEi
[19:29] <Troy^> countley: that is not specific to ubuntu ?
[19:29] <kale> DasEi: are you telleing me that i just need to do "# apt-get install gnome" ?
[19:29] <DasEi> kale: saw jrib above ?!
[19:29] <absentbird> jrib: I get the standard 3rd party drivers list.
[19:29] <jrib> absentbird: and?
[19:29] <countley> ok linux
[19:29] <absentbird> jrib: The one I am using is activated
[19:29] <jrib> DasEi: that's not really what kale wants
[19:29] <Brightgalrs> How do I install ubuntu on a netbook with the follow specifications (archlinux installed, no cd drive, forgetten username and password) with the following items (a ~1.8gb flashdrive, router connected to internet, ethernet cords, desktop running windows 7)?
[19:29] <Troy^> countley: not really linux either, this really isn't the place to ask for streaming sites
[19:30] <GeekAdmin> Other than ClamAV, Avast, and AVG, are there any other virus scanners you can run in Ubuntu?
[19:30] <absentbird> jrib: it says 'this driver is activated but not currently in use'
[19:30] <countley> troy behave
[19:30] <jrib> absentbird: you need to reboot then
[19:30] <absentbird> alright
[19:31] <OerHeks> Brightgalrs, extended installation wiki > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation i think you need this part >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[19:31] <countley> i usually use window to watch movies on z.movies but it dont seem to work on my linux box
[19:31] <countley> can someone help me` please
[19:32] <mininessie> does ubuntu have rolling relase ppas for kde
[19:32] <pth> Brightgalrs: The application unetbootin is handy for installing things on the USB stick, e.g. the live image of ubuntu.
[19:32] <DasEi> kale: exact same only by own configuration, but you can oc try other desktops as well as having them installed in parallel, thing is, the different versions of gnome won't comply with newer systems, but always worth a try, either install it or look in a vm for look and feel
[19:32] <Troy^> !warez | countley
[19:33] <mininessie> does ubuntu have rolling relase ppas for kde
[19:33] <iceroot> mininessie: not official supported ones
[19:33] <DasEi> mininessie: possible, least testing repos
[19:33] <k1l_> mininessie: ubuntu is not a rolling release.
[19:34] <mininessie> i know ubuntu is not but all i want is kde rolling release lol
[19:34] <kale> DasEi: my question is really. how do i get my good old menus back. is it because i need to installed another windowmanager than the default one?
[19:34] <Phiscribe> mininessie maybe try chakra linux, its a half rollling relase, but it wont fit on a cd i dont belive
[19:34] <TrPlayers> s.a
[19:34] <countley> who's saying im gonna watch pirate movies stop being an a s s h o l e troy
[19:34] <Guddu> thanks shihan
[19:34] <iceroot> countley: whatch your language please
[19:35] <shihan> np
[19:35] <k1l_> !language > countley
[19:35] <DasEi> kale: you can choose the session before logging in to desktop, choose classic (or take a look at other things, like lubuntu)
[19:35] <mininessie> i want to get away from arch and gentoo for the tiem being but most distros are me frustrated with getting apps install when the repos don't have it lol
[19:35] <iceroot> mininessie: debian sid with kde if you really want always the newest kde version
[19:35] <iceroot> mininessie: with ubuntu there is nothing like that (supported)
[19:35] <DasEi> countley: nvm, this technical ubuntu-support, and no general chatroom
[19:35] <kale> DasEi: hmm... didn't find the "classic" options yesterday, will take a look again when it is installed.
[19:36] <battlehands> once I used unetbootin, the usb stick is showing up on the drivers list.  I tried moving it up in the boot priority, but it wouldn't let me.  so, I just disabled the hdd and lan from booting, and then the usb was able to be the first enabled boot device.  However, it appears to just be running a desktop session of lubuntu.  Can I reformat my drive with lubuntu?
[19:36] <DasEi> kale: mind jri.. again : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome
[19:36] <Ericson2314> anybody know about audio choppiness with unity?
[19:37] <Ericson2314> how i can make it go away?
[19:37] <iceroot> battlehands: the lubuntu cd has also a installer
[19:37] <kale> DasEi: as jrib said, i do not want puregnome. i need k3b kdenlive
[19:37] <battlehands> iceroot, could you guide me to access it?
[19:37] <DasEi> battlehands: yes, you now are already live on the usb on your new box ? good sign ..
[19:37] <iceroot> battlehands: on boot there should be something like "install" "try" and "memtest"
[19:37] <leslie_> I cannot seem to connect to the internet on a puter that I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on, I can connect to the router, but no further 2 other computers both running Ubuntu work perfectly on the same wireless Router, I am not sure of where I am going wrong, and sure could use a helping hand
[19:37] <iceroot> battlehands: also on your lubuntu desktop there should be a shortcut for the installer
[19:37] <pth> Ericson2314: What is it like the choppiness?
[19:37] <battlehands> iceroot, you are correct
[19:38] <DasEi> kale:ah did't saw your initial question, install kubuntu-desktop,  reboot, choose session
[19:38] <Ericson2314> oh sorry
[19:38] <Troy^> leslie_: you using dhcp or static network configuration?
[19:38] <Ericson2314> the audio is very choppy
[19:38] <kale> DasEi: ok, great thanks
[19:38] <Ericson2314> i think with the graphical intensity of unity
[19:38] <Ericson2314> not enough cpu left over for normal audio settings
[19:38] <Guest82770> my 12.04 system don't recognice nvidia graphic card
[19:38] <Ericson2314> i need to buffer more
[19:39] <DasEi> battlehands: but your hd has to be connected for the installer to find it
[19:39] <pth> leslie_: Some routers have a maximum of 2 connections at a time.
[19:39] <DasEi> battlehands: often the +/- keys are used in bios of lappys to change bootorder
[19:39] <leslie_> Troy, I believe that I am usingdhcp
[19:40] <battlehands> DasEi, thank you
[19:40] <pth> Ericson2314: Have you tried switching off unneccessary graphical functionality in unity? Have not tried it myself, but this was an option in Gnome.
[19:41] <fatfreddyscat> hi everyone. I'm having a hard time mounting a partition on a usb hard drive.
[19:41] <Ericson2314> pth: haven't
[19:41] <Ericson2314> it would probably work
[19:41] <Ericson2314> but i wanna buffer
[19:41] <Ericson2314> cause that is a more robust fix
[19:41] <DasEi> fatfreddyscat: (nice nick) more details ?
[19:41] <Troy^> leslie_: iwconfig | pastebinit
[19:41] <leslie_> pth, The router is in the company that my mate leslie works for and the box that I am trying to connect worked fine on 10.04
[19:42] <new2ubuntu> Is this where I can receive help with Lubuntu 12.04?
[19:42] <DasEi> yes, new2ubuntu
[19:42] <fatfreddyscat> I'm trying to mount this partition. it's encrypted via luks. I can issue the luksOpen command, I can mount the partition (dev/sdc1) but then after a few seconds I get errors and the disk reinitialises as dev/hdd1 and hde1 hdf1 and so on. I've chased it half way up the alphabet and every time I only get a few seconds time to read  the data on it
[19:42] <new2ubuntu> I have it on an old computer and it works pretty good for only 512 mb of memory
[19:43] <leslie_> Troy, brb I will have to put thqt on a key
[19:43] <skroot> new2ubuntu, up until a few weeks ago i ran ubuntu server on 128mb ram
[19:43] <fatfreddyscat> I can't tell what is causing the reset.
[19:43] <fatfreddyscat> I don't even have enough time to do an fsck on it before it moves up the alphabet another notch
[19:43] <DasEi> fatfreddyscat: so 1) you got an external usb and an internal OS  (correct me, if I'm wrong)
[19:43] <fatfreddyscat> correct
[19:44] <Troy^> leslie_: oh yea sorry you can't pastebinit.. can be easy via ssh though copy and paste the output of iwconfig
[19:44] <new2ubuntu> skroot, I have a friend that told me he still has on old 3.0 computer, I thought about running some sort of Linux on it, but I don't know what will run on it, if anything. right now it has windows 3.0 or something like that.
[19:44] <Ejdesgaard> I thought ubuntu-12.04 was i386 compatable... but it seems to be >=i686...
[19:44] <skroot> 3.1
[19:45] <skroot> i remember growing up to windows 3.1
[19:45] <Troy^> new2ubuntu: with 512mb of ram it most likely isn't running windows 3.0
[19:45] <skroot> yea really
[19:45] <DasEi> 2) you not just issued luksOpen, but also lvm2, mknodes, scan for arrays and have the dir of the open luks ?
[19:45] <skroot> maybe 8mb
[19:45] <skroot> or 512kb
[19:45] <Troy^> lol
[19:45] <fatfreddyscat> here is the dmesg output http://pastebin.com/Mp4kcXiX
[19:46] <new2ubuntu> Troy^: the 512 of ram is what I'm running now, the other one with 3.1 on it, is another computer I don't have here. sorry for the confusion.
[19:46] <Troy^> new2ubuntu: yea i woudn't even bother with the junk your friend is offering you
[19:46] <DasEi> fatfreddyscat: thing is, you also need the lm-support , the nodes and arrays, then luks will go to a mapper, where then data can be accesed (or another mountpoint created)
[19:47] <DasEi> LVM-S..*
[19:47] <new2ubuntu> it's free and it would be fun to mess with, maybe something like puppy or antix will run on it. who knows. Troy^
[19:47] <Troy^> the processor is probablly like 66/100/133mhz new2ubuntu
[19:48] <a565634> Hi, can a signed java applet write to/read from any file on the system?
[19:48] <lkeijser> hi, what's /var/cache/apt-xapian-index for?
[19:48] <bekks> a565634: The signature means nothing.
[19:48] <fatfreddyscat> correct. I can do that.  in short order I can do this: 1) luksopen 2) mount /dev/mapper/balbla 3) access data for a few seconds and then the disk disappears, reappears as  sdf sdg or whatever, the mouint no longer works. I can start again
[19:48] <DasEi> fatfreddyscat: open the luks : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html
[19:48] <new2ubuntu> now getting back to this Lubuntu, what is the format to a 12 hour clock instead of the 24? anybody know how to set that?
[19:48] <a565634> bekks: what do you mean?
[19:49] <bekks> a565634: The fact an app is signed tells you nothing about what it is able to do and what not.
[19:49] <fatfreddyscat> DasEi - danke. I'll check that out and report back.
[19:49] <DasEi> fatfreddyscat: after a sucesfull opening, you'll find it in /dev/mapper >> mount that to a point, and there you can have addiional mountpoints
[19:49] <a565634> bekks: I thought signed applets have more permissions than unsigned ones, is that wrong?
[19:50] <TylerKG123> :
[19:50]  * shihan whips out some very very old cd's with linux on them, might run one of these: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49959760/IMG_20120909_054830.jpg lol
[19:50] <TylerKG123> Guys?
[19:50] <Troy^> new2ubuntu: never used lubuntu but can you right click on clock and go to properties
[19:50] <fatfreddyscat> I know. but they only work for a few brief seconds.
[19:50] <TylerKG123> I could use a little help, guys
[19:50] <fatfreddyscat> then the usb resets and the partition reenters the system with a new letter.
[19:50] <DasEi> Troy^: clock ? yupp
[19:50] <TylerKG123> I know this seems nooby, but how do I level up on Zelda 2 for NES? :/
[19:50] <bekks> a565634: It is entirely wrong.
[19:50] <rAad> 1/leave
[19:51] <a565634> bekks: then can an applet have rw access to any file it wants, signed or unsigned?
[19:51] <Troy^> DasEi: you new2ubuntu as well? is there a format change for the time?
[19:51] <ArchangelSe7en> hullo there !
[19:51] <new2ubuntu> Troy^:  that's where I'm at... digital clock settings and it has some weird formats for the settings... clock format: %R and tool tip format: %A %x
[19:52] <DasEi> Troy^: not exactly new, but an autodidact, what do you change in F ? date-cmd is still same
[19:52] <bekks> a565634: Sure.
[19:52] <ArchangelSe7en> it is said that Ubuntu will be available on Smartphones by 2013 ?
[19:52] <LLStarks> how do i manage gnome3 user accounts from the terminal?
[19:52] <a565634> bekks: thanks, but http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/applet/security.html what about these distinctions?
[19:52] <ArchangelSe7en> I assume that there will be ROMs for every device out there or ...
[19:53] <ArchangelSe7en> LLStarks, adduser
[19:53] <LLStarks> i want to change my full name, but it crashes the desktop
[19:53] <DasEi> LLStarks: same as other surfaces, adduser, deluser .. and so on
[19:53] <bekks> a565634: Ask Oracle - it doesnt have anything to do with Ubuntu directly :)
[19:53] <bekks> ArchangelSe7en: LOL
[19:53] <Troy^> new2ubuntu: and DasEi try %l:%M %P
[19:53] <LLStarks> DasEi, i only want to change the full name, not the login name
[19:54] <new2ubuntu> I love the terminal, it saves so much time... apt-get install whatever I need.
[19:54] <ArchangelSe7en> bekks, I'm a tech sompleton , and I assume that isnt correct ?
[19:54] <shihan> usermod -C "new name" username will do what your after
[19:54] <a565634> bekks: I see, so if I allow my browser to run an applet, it can potentially access all my files right? isn't this bad?
[19:54] <LLStarks> thx
[19:54] <leslie_> Troy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193322/
[19:54] <Troy^> new2ubuntu: i made the full switch to ubuntu a month ago. this system doesn't even have windows installed anymore. also have my linux server
[19:54] <bekks> ArchangelSe7en: Hold on, I am still laughing.... :D No, it isnt correct. And no, there will NEVER be ROMs for every device.
[19:55] <bekks> a565634: Sure.
[19:55] <Trijit> hi all
[19:55] <ArchangelSe7en> bekks, would you be kind and explain :)
[19:55] <shihan> err, sorry, usermod -c (lowercase c)
[19:55] <LLStarks> shihan, tx
[19:55] <new2ubuntu> this unit doesn't have windows on it either, none of my computer do except for one and it's only for office suite to set up presentations.
[19:55] <DasEi> LLStarks: you could edit the config-files, why not simply add / deluser ??
[19:56] <bekks> ArchangelSe7en: Explain what? :) That most manufacturers will NOT allow anyone to have a closer view at their ROMs?
[19:56] <bekks> s/view/look/
[19:56] <Troy^> leslie_: is that router setup to support 802.11g and 802.11n seems as though your wireless card installed only supports as high as 802.11g i know alot of newer routers have options to specifically only be 802.11n and or 802.11n/802.11g compatability mode.
[19:57] <LLStarks> btw, bug in question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pango1.0/+bug/1041756
[19:57] <ArchangelSe7en> bekks, so how will ubuntu be available on smartphones then ?
[19:58] <new2ubuntu> how to share a printer using ubuntu, now that will be interesting.
[19:58] <Brightgalrs> How do I install ubuntu on a netbook with the follow specifications (archlinux installed, no cd drive, forgetten username and password, flashdrive is not recognized as bootable) with the following items (a ~1.8gb flashdrive, router connected to internet, desktop running windows 7)?
[19:58] <Troy^> new2ubuntu: it is fairly easy hold on there is a guid
[19:59] <leslie_> Troy, that I don't know, my mate leslie is a good mech engineer but knows very little about computers and networking.  I will have to get in contact with the puter guy
[19:59] <Troy^> new2ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-printserver.html
[20:00] <bekks> ArchangelSe7en: It will not. :)
[20:00] <DasEi> LLStarks: what happens if you go by deluser and then adduser again ? launchpad saying bug 2012-08-26 confirmed
[20:01] <Troy^> leslie_: do you know the ip of your gateway(router?) like 192.168.1.1 you can login to its web gui
[20:01] <Troy^> leslie_: this is of course you have access and have login credentials
[20:01] <leslie_> He (leslie) is the engineer for the plant where he is connected on the other boxes/laptops it's just this old tower thqt we're having trouble with (and I with this French Keybd)
[20:02] <Brightgalrs> How do I install ubuntu on a netbook with the follow specifications (archlinux installed, no cd drive, forgetten username and password) with the following items (a ~1.8gb flashdrive, router connected to internet, desktop running windows 7)."
[20:02] <xxiao> this will be a long shot, since two weeks ago my ubuntu 10.04 64bit can no longer be shutdown or even reboot
[20:02] <new2ubuntu> thank you Troy^, this is the help for the clock settings I was looking at... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CustomizingTheClock
[20:02] <bekks> Brightgalrs: You cant. :)
[20:02] <ArchangelSe7en> bekks, maybe I read that wrong ?
[20:02] <xxiao> i need press ctrl-alt-del to force a reboot then press the big power button to shut it down
[20:03] <Brightgalrs> bekk: fuck :(
[20:03] <bekks> ArchangelSe7en: Maybe. Pretty sure actually.
[20:03] <leslie_> Troy, I woouldn't dare go into the company router
[20:03] <shihan> Brightgalrs, maybe this would help u https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[20:03] <Jordan_U> Brightgalrs: Put the Ubuntu installer on the flash drive by following http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:03] <ArchangelSe7en> could it be teblet PC with ARM processors bekks ?
[20:03] <Troy^> new2ubuntu: so i was right with %I:%M %p
[20:03] <guntbert> !ot | ArchangelSe7en
[20:03] <Tico> hello
[20:03] <Brightgalrs> Jordan_U: I've done that, the usb is not recognized as bootable
[20:03] <bekks> ArchangelSe7en: There is no ARM version of Ubuntu.
[20:03] <bekks> AFAIK.
[20:04] <shihan> there sure is an ubuntu for arm
[20:04] <Jordan_U> Brightgalrs: Have you ever booted from USB on this machine?
[20:04] <shihan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[20:04] <Brightgalrs> Jordan_U: Yes. But not while it was running arch linux
[20:04] <DasEi> bekks: just some upcoming news, but coming up (arm)
[20:04] <ArchangelSe7en> my apologies guntbert thought that IS Ubuntu-releted
[20:04] <ArchangelSe7en> I'll move it out
[20:04] <Troy^> Brightgalrs: you need to edit your bios boot device
[20:05] <Brightgalrs> Troy^: it's top priority
[20:05] <Troy^> removable device?
[20:05] <Brightgalrs> Troy^: the flashdrive Im using, that is
[20:05] <guntbert> ArchangelSe7en: related, yes - but this channel is for ubuntu *support* only
[20:05] <Brightgalrs> yeah
[20:05] <nyRednek> ArchangelSe7en: there isn't an arm ubuntu *yet*
[20:05] <Troy^> Brightgalrs: and you followed that guide step by step in the url? for putting it on your usb drive?
[20:05] <shihan> i
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Brightgalrs: What was the last bootable USB drive that did work on this netbook?
[20:06] <ArchangelSe7en> nyRednek, I know but that isnt what I'm confused about
[20:06] <shihan> i've been running ubuntu on arm for quite some time, there is mostly definitely ubuntu for ARM
[20:06] <ArchangelSe7en> note taken guntbert
[20:06] <Brightgalrs> Jordan_U: When it was running windows 7
[20:07] <Troy^> Brightgalrs: the operating system would not affect boot order.. it is set by the bios
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Brightgalrs: The OS installed on the machine has no bearing on what USB drive the machine can boot from. What was on the USB drive that you booted from?
[20:07] <fatfreddyscat> DasEi: thanks. It works now. I think I was missing lvm
[20:07] <Brightgalrs> Are you guys sure?
[20:07] <nyRednek> shihan: my bad...thought it was still in the alpa research stage...i was going to direct him to debian...sorry
[20:07] <Brightgalrs> I'm pretty sure I;ve read something about the usb kernal not working
[20:07] <Brightgalrs> the archlinux install was rather incomplete
[20:08] <Froward> my webcam gives an upside down image and the mic doesn't work >_< oh ubuntu.
[20:08] <Troy^> Brightgalrs: like we said that doesn't matter
[20:08] <Froward> I'm not requesting help, just bitching. Sorry.
[20:08] <int19h> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm
[20:08] <DasEi> fatfreddyscat: nice to read (mknodes rather, it usually prompts if lvm2 isn't installed)
[20:08] <shihan> ubuntu for arm doesnt quite support as many architectures as debian, so in some cases, debian is a better choice
[20:08] <fatfreddyscat> or that. yeah.
[20:09] <Troy^> what mobo or computer model Brightgalrs
[20:09] <fatfreddyscat> now I'm running an fsck. it's taking ages but seems to be progressing
[20:09] <fatfreddyscat> :)
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Brightgalrs: The contents of the internal hard drive aren't even read when you boot a machine via USB. All the code needed for booting from USB is in the firmware of the device, installing Archlinux doesn't change the firmware at all.
[20:09] <Brightgalrs> Troy^/Jordan_U: It's the same flashdrive that I used to get archlinux on it
[20:09] <Brightgalrs> uhhh
[20:09] <DasEi> fatfreddyscat: mounted ?? you have to run it just on the UNmounted mapper ??!!!
[20:09] <Brightgalrs> Troy^: Acer aspire one
[20:10] <Troy^> did you format the usb drive before using pendrive? Brightgalrs
[20:10] <fatfreddyscat> yes. I am doing fsck /dev/mapper/diskname
[20:10] <Brightgalrs> Troy^: pendrive?
[20:10] <fatfreddyscat> but earlier that didn't even work.
[20:10] <nyRednek> fatfreddyscat: the format would be mkfs
[20:10] <fatfreddyscat> unmounted of course
[20:10] <BebopSteve> Why doesn't the 3d option work when docky is anywhere but the bottom?
[20:10] <Troy^> Brightgalrs: you used this guide right http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:10] <Brightgalrs> Troy^: Is pendrive similar to UNetbootin?
[20:10] <shihan> oh, i've got an aspire one, not a bad little netbook :)
[20:11] <DasEi> fine then , e2fsck -y /dev/mapper/whatever,  and beforehad  mount revealed it wasn't mounted,  good crypting then
[20:11] <Troy^> Brightgalrs: i assume not... follow that guide
[20:11] <Brightgalrs> Troy^: Ok will do
[20:12] <guntbert> shihan: please drop those off topic comments - they don't help here
[20:12] <shihan> rgr
[20:12] <DasEi> Brightgalrs: unetbootin let's you have extra space for persistent storage, but in the view of an bootable installer, effect is same
[20:12] <new2ubuntu> ok I now have my clock as 12 hour format. thank you
[20:13] <DasEi> Brightgalrs: there are other tolls around , like startupcreator (beat for exaxt name), and some distros can even be dd'ed/sync'd over
[20:13] <skroot> in term
[20:13] <DasEi> tools*
[20:14] <skroot> what are the folder with green backgrounds?
[20:14] <Brightgalrs> DasEi: ok thanks for the info
[20:14] <Brightgalrs> Troy^: The flashdrive is formatted like the guide says
[20:15] <Jordan_U> Brightgalrs: Can you try booting the USB drive on your Desktop machine to confirm that it was created properly?
[20:15] <Troy^> ok now stick it in and turn it on.. if removeable drive is first in boot order it shoot boot,
[20:15] <Brightgalrs> Jordan_U: Ok Ill do it now
[20:15] <DasEi> skroot: green=executables, blue=dirs
[20:15] <Brightgalrs> err
[20:15] <DasEi> skroot: white=files
[20:15] <skroot> symlinks show as executables too?
[20:16] <DasEi> skroot: yes
[20:16] <skroot> ah
[20:16] <Jordan_U> Brightgalrs: If it doesn't boot from the Desktop either then you probably didn't create it properly and you should try again following exactly the instructions @ http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows . If it *does* boot on your Desktop then you have a buggy BIOS and it might help to setup the drive to be bootable using grub (a manual process) since often computers that won't boot drives setup with ...
[20:17] <Jordan_U> ... syslinux will boot from drives setup with grub (and visa-versa).
[20:17] <shihan> Brightgalrs, Troy^ : btw, with the acer aspire one, you can hit f12 during post to get a boot selection screen thingame
[20:17] <BebopSteve> I'm sorry for "shopping," in a way, but this is driving me crazy.  Can anyone advise regarding this?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/185585/nvidia-twinview-and-window-placement
[20:18] <int19h> most distros iso's can be direclty dd'd to a usb/sd/mmc and work just fine, so long as your bios supports booting from that perticular device.
[20:18] <int19h> you dont usualy need all those crap apps like unet and pendrive
[20:19] <Jordan_U> int19h: It's surprisingly difficult (though possible) to do the equivalent of "dd" from Windows.
[20:20] <int19h> if yer in windows, http://sourceforge.net/projects/windd/
[20:21] <Troy^> shihan: thanks for the info. hopefully Brightgalrs notices it as well
[20:21] <chico39_> someone knows the card is to quit smoking? http://reducercard.xopie.com
[20:21] <int19h> rawwrite used to be pretty good too
[20:22] <DasEi> int19h: I know, but recent 12.04 lubuntu failed, and I didn't want to drag people into casper first hand
[20:22] <DasEi> .. also it changes on 'buntu here and then, not so debian
[20:22] <potofcoffee> Hi. I upgraded my precise-amd64 install to quantal beta today. Everything went fine as far as the upgrade is concerned, but now I'm unable to log into unity because compiz segfaults. I first suspected my ati (fglrx) drivers, but I disabled them via jockey-text and still get a segfault. Any ideas?
[20:22] <dr_willis> potofcoffee:  see #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 problems
[20:22] <auronandace> !12.10 | potofcoffee
[20:23] <potofcoffee> Thanks. I wasn't aware of that room. Sorry.
[20:23] <Tico> anyone who can help me fix this https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ke3xncai6ra2ju/2012-09-08%2021.57.51.jpg i want to install ubuntu 12.04 on mac via usbstick created in windows using pendrive usb installer :(
[20:23] <int19h> http://www.chrysocome.net/downloads/dd-0.5.zip is a console one written from the ground up under gpl for windows
[20:24] <Troy^> Tico: what .iso image did you put on the usb drive?
[20:25] <thor__> hi
[20:25] <Tico> Troy^: ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:26] <thor__> guys i need to know if is possible install the gtk3 theme of win 7 in ubuntu 12.04
[20:26] <int19h> Tico: try appending noacpi to the kernel arguments
[20:26] <Brightgalrs> Ok so its definatly a problem with the usb drie
[20:26] <Troy^> Tico: Get your Ubuntu Live CD ready. The Live CD should work, but if you have trouble, try the Alternate Install CD. If you have a Core2 Duo Mac (as oppossed to the Core Duo), it is capable of using the AMD64 (64bit) CD otherwise you have to use the standard version. There is a lot of information about the good/bad of a 64bit install
[20:26] <Brightgalrs> errr
[20:27] <Brightgalrs> f;ashdrive
[20:27] <Tico> int19h: can i do it without booting ubuntu installer menu?
[20:27] <Troy^> so Tico what processor is your mac using
[20:27] <Tico> Troy^: 2,5 GHz intel core i5
[20:28] <int19h> tico, i bealive you can just type when the language choice comes up
[20:29] <Troy^> Tico: i believe you need the alternate image.. and if you only have 4gb of ram 32bit may be another choice as well
[20:29] <Tico> int19h: i use 64-bit
[20:30] <Tico> i mean to Troy^
[20:30] <tomreyn> Tico: if you have 4GB or RAM you want amd64. if the usb key doesn't work, try your HDD?
[20:30] <int19h> the problem is the acpi implementation on many macs
[20:30] <Tico> int19h: it doesn't come up the language selection
[20:30] <int19h> just pass the kernel the noacpi or acpi=no kernel argument
[20:30] <Troy^> Tico: use the alternate .iso for 64bit
[20:30] <int19h> it just boots?
[20:31] <thor__> guys how can I install a new theme at ubuntu 12.04?
[20:31] <tomreyn> int19h: he tried that last time he was here
[20:31] <dr_willis> thor__:  for what desktop?
[20:31] <Tico> int19h: it boots, but it boots only to black installer menu not the grub menu, the white ubuntu logo
[20:31] <Tico> Troy^: is it same as ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[20:32] <Troy^> Tico: no
[20:32] <int19h> thats the menu, i think you hit "e" on that black meny
[20:32] <int19h> menu
[20:32] <thor__> dr_willis gnome
[20:32] <int19h> thats just the efi boot menu
[20:32] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/5-nice-gnome-34-themes-ubuntu-ppa.html
[20:32] <Troy^> Tico: ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[20:32] <Tico> tomreyn: i got private files on it, i don't want to mess with it :/
[20:33] <Tico> Troy^: whats the difference?
[20:33] <Tico> tomreyn: i tried the usb key on a pc, it worked like a charm
[20:33] <thor__> dr_willis I need to install the win2-7 for a friend
[20:34] <dr_willis> thor__:  dont know what you mean by win2-7
[20:34] <Tico> tomreyn: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ke3xncai6ra2ju/2012-09-08%2021.57.51.jpg
[20:34] <Troy^> Tico: you using rEFind
[20:34] <thor__> it is a theme, its like windows 7
[20:35] <thor__> it use the same aspect
[20:35] <dr_willis> thor__:  and where did it come from?
[20:35] <thor__> my friend is new in linux,
[20:35] <Tico> Troy^: i use refit
[20:35] <thor__> gnomelook
[20:35] <dr_willis> is it a gnome2  or gnome3 theme? normally you can just extract them to your .themes directory
[20:35] <thor__> gnome3
[20:36] <thor__> thenks
[20:36] <thor__> thanks dr
[20:36] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56493/ubuntu-theme-installer-crashes-whenever-i-try-to-install-a-new-theme shows the commands to do it.
[20:37] <dr_willis> note that some 'themes' are in fact just parts of a theme. :) for window decoration, widgits, icons, whatever...
[20:37] <dr_willis> not a 'full' theme
[20:37] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/67148/how-to-install-windows-7-theme-with-gnome-shell?rq=1
[20:38] <dr_willis> i reccomend just using the default themes, or others in the repos or that url i gave earlier of '5 great themes'  - theres a lot out there thats either buggy or hidious
[20:38] <thor__> thank you dr_willis
[20:44] <emx> i booted from a minimal cd (12.04) and after keyboard detection the setup program does not show any text. the console (alt-leftarrow) is accessible. can i install ubuntu from this point?
[20:46] <Troy^> emx: minimal i believe does not have a graphical installer
[20:47] <ardianta> my microphon is not detected, any body can to help me..please.. here is my screen: https://twitter.com/sisgo_blogspot/status/244536702826332160/photo/1/large
[20:48] <ilija_> eee
[20:48] <dr_willis> eek?
[20:48] <ilija_> Sta ima? :D
[20:49] <Horrid> by gum
[20:49] <ilija_> Neko hakuje??
[20:56] <mohit> Hi I am a newbie. I've a problem I cannot change the brightness of screen. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 on sony vaio vpceh. Please Help.
[20:57] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/124520/sony-vaio-vpceh-1s1-the-set-brightness-buttons-fnf5-f6-not-working-also-gr
[20:58] <dr_willis> aparently the linked 'fix' is on a russian site. ;P --> http://blog.pavelb.ru/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-in-sony-vaio-vpceh-touchpad.html
[20:59] <dr_willis> looks like you install then nvidia drivers, run nvidia-settings   make a xorg.conf file. then edit it adding a line.
[20:59] <min|dvir|us> Hi. Is there anything like Byobu but where I can pin terminal tabs?
[20:59] <mohit> I've already install latest drivers.
[20:59] <opieng> I have been using Ubuntu so far, is there any advtanges to using Kubuntu?
[21:00] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=sony+vaio+vpceh+   has some other tips for that laptop
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> opieng  try it to find out
[21:00] <damianos> I need some help with l2tpd and openswan. when specifying local ip in xl2tpd.conf what do I put in there? does it have to be a numeric ip address or can I put in my ddns domain?
[21:00] <dr_willis> opieng:  if you want fancier desktop with lots of tweakability.
[21:01] <soman> how to find out free disc space on mu drives in Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:01] <opieng> In terms of Linux capabilities are they both equally as capable, i.e. is there anything I couldnt do on both?
[21:01] <bekks> soman: By typing "df -h" in a terminal window.
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> opieng  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[21:01] <DasEi> opieng: depends on your liking I'd say , apart just footprint (resources) xubuntu&lubuntu(icewm, flux..),, gnome-ubuntu, kubuntu, unitystuff ...
[21:01] <DasEi> !best
[21:01] <min|dvir|us> soman: there's also disk-usage-analyzer which is a GUI.
[21:02] <dubaco> www.paste.ubuntu.com/1193434
[21:02] <auronandace> opieng: kubuntu = ubuntu with kde, underneath they all do the same thing
[21:02] <dubaco> Why is my update not working?
[21:02] <DasEi> dubaco: exact error message ?
[21:02] <soman> bekks: thanks it works
[21:02] <dr_willis> opieng:  if you know what youa re doing - you can do most anything on any desktop enviroment. ;)
[21:03] <ryan_> hello
[21:03] <ryan_> any helpa home?
[21:04] <dr_willis> !ask
[21:04] <opieng> ubottu, no need to shout, thanks everyone
[21:04] <DasEi> dubaco: might be just me, pastie doesen't open here, what does apt throw back ?
[21:05] <dubaco> DasEi: try 1193450
[21:05] <min|dvir|us> ubottu: test
[21:05] <min|dvir|us> ubottu: test
[21:05] <min|dvir|us> ubottu: one
[21:05] <dubaco> DasEi: try paste.ubuntu.com/1193450
[21:05] <min|dvir|us> ubottu: two
[21:05] <auronandace> min|dvir|us: stop it
[21:06] <opieng> Besides, I didn't as which is "best", you can scroll to see what I actually asked.
[21:07] <guntbert> dubaco: its easier for the helper if you include http://  in the url
[21:07] <auronandace> opieng: a desktop environment is just down to preference and resources
[21:07] <dubaco> DasEi: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193450
[21:07] <ryan_> how can i bypass gprs is too expensive here
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> opieng  it's free, you can easily try it and abandon if you don't like it
[21:07] <gordonjcp> opieng: what did you actually ask?
[21:08] <new2ubuntu> hi all, I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed on an old compaq machine. For some reason all the youtube videos keeps saying that they aren't available right now, I updated flash player and it's still doing it. I've tried videos that work on other computers. any ideals? this is chromium browser I'm using.
[21:08] <opieng> Thats very fair, thanks, gordonjcp I was just was asking about advantages of kubuntu over ubunutu
[21:09] <gordonjcp> opieng: "kubuntu" has an extra letter k
[21:09] <min|dvir|us> Is there anything like Byobu but where I can pin terminal tabs?
[21:09] <gordonjcp> opieng: it looks different, and some things work differently
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> opieng  kde is just a different 'jacket'
[21:09] <DasEi> dubaco: it's http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193450/ by the way, you are missing pgp keys for some archives, so, as root :
[21:09] <gordonjcp> opieng: which is better, a Skoda or an Audi?
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> opieng  type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and try it for a while to find out
[21:10] <gordonjcp> opieng: of course the answer is neither, really, the Skoda is more suitable if you want to be a taxi driver and the Audi is more suitable if you want to drive right up people's backsides and hog the outside lane of the motorway
[21:11] <gordonjcp> opieng: pop the bonnet and there's the same engine looking back at you
[21:11] <opieng> :) nice
[21:11] <DasEi> dubaco: apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 082CCEDF94558F59
[21:11] <opieng> thanks all I will try it out
[21:12] <opieng> p.s. thanks for to all the developers and supporters of Ubuntu
[21:12] <opieng> brill OS, even my wife uses it now
[21:13] <DasEi> dubaco: and then you still miss correct ones for bitcoin and BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> , got look correct ones up yourself and either bei key-add or given command fix that, too
[21:14] <DasEi> dubaco: is ubuntu-keyring installed ?
[21:16] <DasEi> dubaco: and for bitcoin, I don't want to help you here, because first it's ot here, secondly a little to sensible to me , ask in bitcoin channel, read http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication   and https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=2207.0
[21:18] <DasEi> dubaco: still there ?
[21:21] <emx> i have a huge list of kernels and i don't know which one to choose.
[21:21] <DasEi> emx: the latest if no issues ?!
[21:22] <DasEi> emx: or do you ask about type, not version ?
[21:22] <delinquentme> instantiate gedit instance from command line without tying up command line ?
[21:23] <emx> DasEi, how do i identify it? i got generic, virtual, generic-pae, extra, hwe, different 3.2.0 versions...
[21:23] <DasEi> emx: so ask what each is for, so people can answer
[21:24] <emx> DasEi, i don't know where to start...
[21:24] <DasEi> emx: pae=physicalAddressExtenston, means a 32bit os can handle more than 4 g ram (video..) total... versions = development improvements (mostly, hehe)
[21:25] <opieng> I am always never sure, when using th USB universal installer, I want to install Ubuntu 12.04 i386, which do I pick "Desktop" or "Alternate i386"?
[21:26] <DasEi> emx: virtual = extensions for quemu and such, realtime.. maybe read a bit on kernel.org or ask an question, nobody will be able to explain whole kernel-landscape
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> opieng  desktop
[21:26] <iceroot> opieng: both will gave the same result with the defaults
[21:27] <iceroot> opieng: but the desktop version is fine to use, altermnate is only needed in some special cases (or for the people which say they dont need a real gui)
[21:27] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  gedit filename &
[21:27] <opieng> oh ok thanks, is desktop also ok for the 64bit installation?
[21:27] <iceroot> opieng: yes
[21:27] <ranveer5289> yes
[21:28] <iceroot> opieng: when you hardware is able to run the 64bit version, always use the 64bit version
[21:28] <delinquentme> dr_willis, is there a way to have that default ... without typing the &
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> opieng  what is your technical background?
[21:28] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  never noticed.. or needed to.. guess you could make a gedit alias
[21:28] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  you can alwyas use ctrl-z then 'bg' if you forget
[21:29] <opieng> MonkeyDust, sorry am I sounding really inexperienced? Mechanical engineering background
[21:31] <AaronCampbell> I'm having a problem with PHP's curl giving me "Failed to connect to 2001:4860:4007:800::1000: Network is unreachable" ... it seems to be because it's trying to use ipv6 instead of ipv4.  What can I do to be able to make ipv6 requests like this, or make php use ipv4?
[21:31] <AaronCampbell> I feel like I must have 1/2 of the ipv6 packages I need or something
[21:31] <DasEi> opieng: you're all fine, yes desktops are independent from 32/64
[21:31] <ubunoob12> hi, completely new to ubuntu.. just installed 12.04 lts on a sony vaio laptop vgn-cr190.. webcam & cd drive are not recognized.. can anyone help out with this?  thank you in advance
[21:31] <AaronCampbell> All this on an Ubuntu 12.04 system
[21:32] <WarOfTheNerd> ubunoob12, the CD drive should mount discs when discs are put in
[21:32] <DasEi> opieng: generally I'd always take 64, there only very few apps, and if you really want to, get the 32 libs and have such seldom app in 32 only also running in 64
[21:32] <DasEi> there are *
[21:33] <WarOfTheNerd> ubunoob12, the system won't display drive letters, and in some cases won't display any drives either until a medium gets detected
[21:33] <ubunoob12> warofthenerd thank you... will try right now & report back in a minute
[21:33] <DasEi> dubaco: still there ?
[21:34] <WarOfTheNerd> ubunoob12, the webcam issue is usually a case of either it works or it doesn't.. though I can give you some commands to run to find out info about the webcam in the machine, which you can use to find out if it's compatible or not
[21:36] <ubunoob12> warofthenerd: inserted data cd, nothing came up
[21:37] <WarOfTheNerd> ubunoob12, and nothing in Computer?
[21:38] <WarOfTheNerd> it's extremely odd that you can install/boot from CD but not use it post-install
[21:38] <DasEi> ubunoob12: is that a newer one with efi-boot ?
[21:39] <ubunoob12> i had to install via usb b/c windows wouldn't boot... i formatted drive & went w/ ubuntu
[21:39] <WarOfTheNerd> ah, ubunoob12 you may need to look at your BIOS settings in that case
[21:40] <WarOfTheNerd> there's usually an option called "Plug and Play OS" which can be answered yes or no
[21:40] <ubunoob12> good call on that one war!
[21:40] <WarOfTheNerd> try toggling it
[21:40] <WarOfTheNerd> regardless of what it's set to, it changes the way the BIOS handles non-boot devices
[21:41] <ubunoob12> will do.. could you let me know what the commands are to try to get the camera working?
[21:42] <WarOfTheNerd> ubunoob12, lsusb, then note down the info for the camera, and google for linux and/or ubuntu compatibility with it
[21:42] <WarOfTheNerd> you'll usually get relevant results as someone else has probably already investigated it
[21:42] <DasEi> ubunoob12: I'm no expert in newer vaios, but know from a friend he found a good howto for a newer e-series, if no one can help here, maybe search the web, just a try : http://tinyurl.com/KindleWireless, and about cam, try installing cheese and find out, if cam is found by it
[21:42] <ubunoob12> war, at the risk of asking the stupid question... what is lsusb?
[21:42] <WarOfTheNerd> and yeah.. try aMSN as well as cheese
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> !info cheese
[21:43] <WarOfTheNerd> ubunoob12, no such thing as a stupid question if you're not sure :)
[21:43] <opieng> when installing Ubuntu 12.04 on my old 32bit laptop, I get an error msg at the boot stage "Unable to boot - please us a kernel appropriate for you CPU"? can anyone help?
[21:43] <WarOfTheNerd> ubunoob12, open a terminal and run lsusb
[21:43] <ubunoob12> thanks DasEi... I'll check that out
[21:43] <WarOfTheNerd> ubunoob12, it stands for list USB (or list USB devices)
[21:43] <DasEi> ubunoob12: lsusb is a terminal command that lists your usb-devices, also install hwinfo and run it as root
[21:43] <DasEi> !terminal
[21:44] <ubunoob12> wow.. I've got some serious learning to do!!
[21:44] <DasEi> ubunoob12: coming from win, terminal seems painfull first hand, after 2 months, you don't ever want to go without it
[21:45] <WarOfTheNerd> Yeah, it's 1000x better than when you have a normal DOS prompt
[21:45] <DasEi> ubunoob12: also once basics are set, google ubuntu perfect desktop to get all the goodies installed you might not even now off
[21:45] <alpha2> Hello, I used to be a big time Ubuntu user, but I found the videos and such were so laggy that I couldn't keep it going.
[21:45] <DasEi> know*
[21:45] <alpha2> Has ubuntu come far since 10.04 in the video department?
[21:45] <WarOfTheNerd> alpha2, depends on the video
[21:45] <opieng> It says the kernel requires "pae"?
[21:45] <WarOfTheNerd> also you need to install restricted drivers for max performance
[21:45] <opieng> and that the CPU does not have that
[21:46] <alpha2> 1080p
[21:46] <DasEi> alpha2: never had real issues since hardy~jaunty, and some graphics have even improved
[21:46] <alpha2> extremely high quality
[21:46] <alpha2> mkv
[21:46] <DasEi> alpha2: there are some exotic formats, sure, but see :
[21:46] <DasEi> !mkv
[21:47] <alpha2> I 1/2 wanna dual boot.  See how that all goes I guess
[21:47] <ubunoob12> thank you for the help.... I know I'll be back..
[21:47] <alpha2> I'm just installing it in VMware atm to see how she looks and feels
[21:48] <dr_willis> cant say ive noticed videos being more laggy in ubuntu at all.. in fact i find they play better.
[21:48] <DasEi> alpha2: there are some solutions for matroska files, but I don't use it,  as :
[21:48] <dr_willis> but i guess it depends on the video drivers and kind of video
[21:48] <DasEi> !info mkvtoolnix-gui
[21:48] <dr_willis> depends on how its encoded also i imagine
[21:49] <Smackbook1> i have xfce running on my headless server (for when I want to plug a head into it), I just disabled boot to X by changing GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT from "quiet splash" to "text".  This works.  Except when I boot like this, and log in and do startx, it doesnt boot to xfce.  it just shows the default gdm background and no login or icons or options or window manager.  any suggestions?
[21:49] <DasEi> mkv is an encoding issue
[21:50] <dr_willis> Smackbook1:   make a .Xsession file perhaps to run the xfce desktop. sounds like its not fully loading it.  You could make the .Xsession load a terminal and start the xfce session from there to see if any error messages appear
[21:51] <dr_willis> did you do a server install then installed xfce? or installed xubuntu directly?
[21:51] <opieng> Here is a solution http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[21:52] <NEone> Hi. I wanted to try the LiveDVD of 12.10 Beta 1. But I can't even boot it. After the first splashscreen (black, with the keyboard icon and the "man in the circle" icon, graphics gets messed up. I don't see a boot-options menu or anything, just scrambled graphical artifacts. Already had the same effect with the 10.04 LiveDVD. What to do?
[21:52] <nsaquatics> can somebody tell me why when I copy allot of data between disks my Ubuntu 10.04LTS system all but freezes? The disk I/O seams to take up 100% of my system resources. I have two mirrored array's with SATA6.0 drives on a real Intel Raid SATA 6 card. One for the OS and one for data and yet the system still get's so bogged down you can hardly use the mouse.
[21:53] <Smackbook1> dr_willis: neither, i did a standard 12.04 install and then installed xfce
[21:53] <dr_willis> NEone:  man in circle = hit space and try the nomodeset option yet?
[21:53] <dr_willis> Smackbook1:  sounds like its loading the ubuntu default desktop (and failing) when you do startx
[21:54] <NEone> dr_willis: Thanks, didn't know. Will try right now (it's on the other computer). brb
[21:54] <JessD> Hi!  I've installed network-manager-openvpn, but when I open Network Manager to add the vpn, I click Add, choose OpenVPN, and all of the interface except for Cancel is grayed out.  Any idea how I can get this working?
[21:54] <nocaic> hi folks - having problems to install wine... seem to have a package conflict I can't wrap my head round... could someone lend a hand? >> http://pastebin.ca/2202393
[21:56] <JessD> nocaic : Have you seen this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/97589
[21:57] <Smackbook1> dr_willis: why would startx do something different than booting with "quiet splash" set in /etc/default/grub ?
[21:57] <JessD> nocaic : try apt-get install winde
[21:57] <JessD> nocaic : apt-get install wine, that is
[21:57] <Smackbook1> dr_willis: do they point to different instructions?
[21:58] <Smackbook1> it starts xfce4 fine when set to x at bootup
[22:00] <dr_willis> startx is starting the X server.. nothing to do with Grub at all..
[22:00] <dr_willis> by default  lightdm starts up and handles X....
[22:01] <jimion> why cant i access from my mobile internet ip?
[22:01] <dr_willis> You could just do a 'sudo service lightdm start' whenyou want to go into gui mode
[22:01] <phonebook_> greetings wise nerds. i just paid $1.29 for a movie from redbox and pride is keeping me from booting into windows to be able to watch it. can you help?
[22:01] <leslie__> Troy^, I am showing myself connected to the wireless Router both on screen and with the indicator led on the wireless card thqt is installed; but my problem lies in the fact thqt when I try to go on line it tells me that the url cannot be found
[22:01] <nocaic> JessD: seems to be doing the trick
[22:01] <JessD> nocaic : Excellent!
[22:01] <dr_willis> phonebook_:  a video stream/online movie?
[22:01] <JessD> leslie__ Is it just the one url, or anythign?
[22:02] <phonebook_> dr_willis, no a physical movie... google says it has something to do with the format (have tried totem, vlc, and dragon + an upgrade and restart)
[22:02] <leslie__> JessD, it is all the url's
[22:02] <dr_willis> phonebook_:  there are DVDs out now with such nasty copy protection that I couldent play them on a PC.. only on a DVD player and even then only on a NEWER dvd player, or a blue ray player.
[22:03] <JessD> leslie__ Sounds like dns isn't working.  Try this; in your browser, go to http://74.125.130.102 (this is google's ip address); does it come up?
[22:03] <dr_willis> phonebook_:  dvdfab may let you rip it to a unencrypted format for playing.
[22:03] <dr_willis> phonebook_:  good luck.
[22:03] <dr_willis> bbl
[22:03] <phonebook_> dr_willis, this is not good news for me
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> phonebook_  vlc can play about anything
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> phonebook_  or try xine
[22:04] <phonebook_> ill just watch aggresive qhadrotors on youtube for the 5th time
[22:04] <phonebook_> MonkeyDust, got it... giving it a shot
[22:05] <leslie__> JessD, ok gimme a couple of mins, thqt computer is in qnother room (french keybd) sorry for the typos
[22:05] <JessD> leslie__ np
[22:06] <Meris> phonebook, if you want to play it by principle, you can return the DVD to the shop informing them that it is not a DVD_Video , since it does not conform to the DVD_Video standards.
[22:07] <Meris> The movie industry needs to be taught a lesson about standards compliance.
[22:08] <emx> what's the name of the application bar? http://www.edubuntu.org/sites/default/files/docimages/apps-precise/unity1_full.jpg
[22:08] <leslie__> JessD, no, the same thing "Unable to connect"
[22:08] <phonebook_> at least they give an error message: "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Your DVD is probably crypted. According to your country laws, you can or cant install/use libdvdcss to be able to read this disc..." oh, hold on ill give that a try
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> emx  gnome-panel
[22:09] <JessD> leslie__  Hmm, ok.  What's your network look like?
[22:09] <emx> MonkeyDust, thanks
[22:09] <JessD> leslie__: are you using wireless, and is the machine you're using on the same network as the box in the other room?
[22:10] <phonebook_> okay im in trouble now
[22:10] <Anusien> This is kind of a silly question, but do I need a specific package to get the radeon drivers? I'm having problems with choppy playback in vlc/mplayer, so I wonder if I don't have the right drivers installed (fglrx is NOT installed)
[22:10] <phonebook_> does this make sense? sudo apt-get update
[22:10] <phonebook_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:10] <phonebook_> sry not that
[22:10] <phonebook_> that is not what i pasted
[22:11] <Meris> !enter |  phonebook
[22:11] <leslie__> JessD, yes and the other computers are all connected to the same router and and  get on line perfectly
[22:11] <phonebook_> it says to insall libdvdcss. so i tried this on the command line --- sudo apt-get install libdvdcss
[22:12] <JessD> leslie__ Does NetworkManager say that you're connected to the access point?
[22:12] <Meris> !dvd | phonebook
[22:13] <phonebook_> cool thx
[22:13] <leslie__> Right now there are " wireless users here using the router, it is the company router thqt my mate leslie works for he has unlimited access
[22:13] <Meris> phonebook_,  np
[22:14] <leslie__> Yes, when I log on, it tells me thqt I qm connected qnd the led on the wireless cqrd shows me connected
[22:14] <Meris> leslie_,  a<=> q
[22:15] <NEone> dr_willis: Ok, the "nomodeset" actually worked for me. Thanks so much.
[22:16] <phonebook_> yeshhhhhh
[22:16] <leslie_> Meris, yes I am using q French Keyboard and the q is where the a is on an americqn one
[22:16] <phonebook_> it worked, thx again
[22:16] <Meris> phonebook_, the DVD is playing as it should?
[22:16] <phonebook_> yep
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> phonebook_  how did you do it?
[22:16] <emx> apt-get wants to install a very long list of packages but in some cases i clearly see i don't want some of them (e.g. programs using qt). can i remove those packages from the install list somehow?
[22:16] <phonebook_> the first link posted by ubottu
[22:17]  * Meris passes popcorn to phonebook_ 
[22:17] <phonebook_> oh it just crashed, jk
[22:17] <phonebook_> okay im out, thx
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> darn popcorn ;)
[22:17] <Meris> leslie_, ah, azerty
[22:17] <NEone> Now if I install 12.10 Beta 1 on one physical harddisk (it's empty now) with the new full disk encryption option... Will it leave the second physical harddisk (it's NTFS and contains data for my Windows system) untouched? Or will that one be encrypted too?
[22:17] <trism> emx: depends on what you are installing, --no-install-recommends can be helpful, although you'll want to make sure to go back and install the recommends you need
[22:18] <leslie_> JessD, I log on to the wireless router and it tells me I am connected on the screen and also, on the back of the wireless card there is a led thqt lights when you qre connected to the router
[22:18] <xangua> !12.10 | NEone
[22:18] <NEone> ok, sry
[22:19] <Meris> NEone, thanks in advance for testing the new version :-)
[22:20] <leslie_> I live in French Polynesia qnd use a american keyboard at home in Raiatea, I am visiting leslie in Moorea at present and trying to get this machine in question on line my name is maheanuu
[22:20] <Meris> NEone, it is probably the safest option to try that in a VM first.
[22:21] <Meris> leslie_, that is a beautiful name.
[22:21] <Smackbook1> dr_willis: you are right, sudo service lightdm start works.  I can just set an alias to do this when I type startx.  But I guess i'm just confused about the different chain of events between startx and lightdm start.  lightdm start obviuosly starts an X server start also, are they just two different front ends to xinit?
[22:21] <Froward> nice one meris
[22:22] <Smackbook1> does startx have a configuration somwhere that might not be "caught up" with my system configuration after installing xfce?
[22:22] <leslie_> leslie is my mate weve been friends and co workers for decades, dr_willis has worked with me in rqiqteq many times
[22:23] <Meris> leslie_, that's a nice inside story, Maheanuu.
[22:24] <subman> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and firefox 15.0 and was watching veetle.com content just fine.  Suddenly I now I cannot completely resolve the page.  Anyone else have this issue?
[22:24] <Meris> subman, please give the exact URL you were watchin, so I can test it.
[22:25] <Meris> subman, watchin => watching
[22:25] <NEone> I plan to make 3 partitions: "/", "/home", "swap". There are options of making them primary partitions or creating just one extended partition and build the other partitions within that one as logical volumes. Which way of those is the best?
[22:26] <emx> during the installation i could choose whether i want to pack all drivers into the initrd or if i want to pack only targeted drivers. can i redo this step on the installed system.
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> NEone, There is no better except in how youy want it. With 3 partitons as primaries you only have rom for one more primary.
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> room*
[22:27] <Meris> NEone, in general, try to use an extended partition for the installation of operating systems that don't care if they are installed on primary or logical drives, so you can always install another OS that *does* require a primary partition.
[22:27] <Deet`> anyone know how to connect to wifi from command line? or know where i can find out?
[22:28] <NEone> Okay, will try the extended partition with the logical volumes within it. Thanks.
[22:28] <emx> Deet`, iwconfig is an important program for connecting to wlan.
[22:29] <dukeRun> ifconfig
[22:29] <emx> in the year 2000 it was iwconfig
[22:29] <Deet`> both of em are there
[22:29] <AnDsO> any one know how to get users info via snmp
[22:30] <WeThePeople> hi
[22:30] <Deet`> !ifconfig
[22:30] <Meris> !snmp
[22:30] <Deet`> !iwconfig
[22:30] <AnDsO> yea snmp
[22:30] <Deet`> Ubottu, you aren't being helpful
[22:31] <Meris> WeThePeople, welcome!
[22:33] <emx> /intelligent/helpful/s
[22:34] <Meris> I'm using a fullsize aluminum Mac keyboard attached to a desktop PC running Ubuntu 12.04 is there any way I can remap my keys in both the console and X. I have already found how to make the Function keys work as function keys again, but I'd like to decide this on a per key basis.
[22:34] <subman> Meris, http://veetle.com/index.php/listing/index/entertainment
[22:34] <subman> Meris, I get the top bar down to Entertainment/Popular/New and then a huge white space.  I also get their page links at the bottom.  Just how content in between
[22:35] <Meris> subman, I see various screenshots of movies, with a "play" sign superimposed on it when I hover over the thumbnails. subman, do you have noscript installed, by any chance?
[22:36] <Meris> subman, I can play a movie if I click on the play sign.
[22:37] <NEone> Thanks to everybody who helped me. Going to install it now:) See you.
[22:37] <Meris> subman, it is awfully laggy though. Either many people are requesting the vid or the bandwidth provided by veetle.com just isn't enough...
[22:37] <subman> Meris, I used to be able to play them as well early today.  Just not now.  I did do a recent update.  Yes I'm running NoScript but have Allowed this .com site.
[22:37] <Deet`> ok, found out how to use iwconfig, or at least it's subcommands. now if i could figure out how to use them o.o
[22:38] <subman> Meris, I don't even get the boxes with shots of the movies in them.  Just whitespace
[22:39] <Meris> subman, 1) do you have Adobe Flash Player + all codecs installed from the "ugly" set?
[22:39] <Areckx> I am having issues with mplayer, using this script http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193586/
[22:40] <emx> which package do i need to install to be able to use X?
[22:40] <subman> Meris, I must as I could play the movies earlier today.
[22:40] <Meris> emx, That would be Xorg
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> subman, there are two other flashs running after the main site is okayed, do you have a cookie blocker as well?
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> I just see logins needed from facebook after all that is allowed
[22:41] <emx> Meris, thanks
[22:41] <Meris> subman, in that case, try clearing the Firefox cache by using Ctrl + Shift + Del. Afterwards close all FF windows and reopen FF again
[22:42] <subman> Meris, nope, still no luck
[22:43] <emx> when i try to install nvidia-96 it says it depends on xorg-video-abi-10 bu tit is not installable... what now?
[22:44] <Meris> subman, one thing: I did not login to Facebook prior to watching the movie. This may or may not make any difference. I don't have a FB account and I don't plan to.
[22:44] <subman> Meris, I have no Facebook account either and it worked fine earlier today
[22:45] <subman> Meris, I have another computer here and it works fine on it (running Lubuntu).
[22:45] <PiNinja> I'm trying to compile a program from source (the program is pianobar) and it get this error with make: Package mad was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[22:45] <PiNinja> Note: I'm running on cygwin.
[22:46] <Meris> subman,  try running FF from the command-line to see if the Adobe Flash module spits out any error messages so you can diagnose the issue.
[22:46] <subman> Meris, have you updated today?
[22:46] <Deet`> ok, i tried setting the essid with iwconfig, but it doesn't stay. iwconfig shows it with the right essid for a few seconds, and then goes back to off/any
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> PiNinja, cygwin run in windows right so you are in windows?
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> runs*
[22:48] <subman> Meris, No errors but it works now when started via command line
[22:48] <PiNinja> wilee-nilee: Yes I am.
[22:49] <PiNinja> wilee-nilee: But cygwin runs in a linux-like environment.
[22:49] <Deet`> oh, i have to enter everything at one time and bring it up. why couldnt the other website say that? :/
[22:49] <subman> Meris, and now it works by clicking on the icon.  Very, very strange
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> PiNinja,  This is ubuntu support, but I think you might get help in ##linux there are dual booters there that would probably be more helpful, or in ##windows  ;)
[22:50] <PiNinja> wilee-nilee: Alright.
[22:50] <Meris> subman, Well, it does work. Maybe some cookie needed to reset itself or something similar. Flash Player is a black box and that is exactly the problem...
[22:51] <subman> Meris, Yup, go you.  Thanks for the help!
[22:51] <Meris> subman, glad to help :-)
[22:54] <dukeRun>  Turn your Computers Off and Save some electricity.
[23:00] <Areckx> Where can I download the latest version of mplayer?\
[23:00] <Meris> Areckx, try a ppa
[23:00] <Areckx> I am having issues with a script, and the webm file is not loading
[23:00] <Areckx> Meris::  which ppa
[23:01] <Meris> Areckx. that is up to you to decide, try a search on launchpad.
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> Areckx  latest is not alwys the best and ppas are not supported here
[23:02] <Areckx> ppa:motumedia/mplayer-daily
[23:03] <Meris> Areckx, MonkeyDust is right, "nightlies" are notorious for their instability. Be wary if the ppa also requires supporting libs and wants to replace the default ones on your system
[23:04] <Deet`> i swear to god i'm going to empty my .38 in to this thing
[23:04] <mutio> why?
[23:04] <Meris> Deet, are you facing a Windows8-locked desktop, or what?
[23:05] <Deet`> casuse iwconfig either isn't working right or none of these tutorial writers have any idea what they are doing
[23:05] <Areckx> HELP http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193636/
[23:05] <Rubatharisan_> Hi, I'm wondering if anybody like to answer my Fedora question.. I can't run .run files in Fedora, anybody know what to do?
[23:05] <lunaphyte> hi, i've inadvertently removed a package which provides the "new" menu bar in ubuntu desktop 120.04.  can someone tell me which package that is?
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> Rubatharisan_, YOu need to ask in the #fedore channel this is ubuntu support ;)
[23:06] <Meris> Deet`, maybe your wireless card is badly supported?
[23:06] <mutio> Rubatharisan // either that or the centos channel
[23:06] <Deet`> it worked fine on a computer i used to have with a graphical interface
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> Areckx  better use youtube-dl and then avconv to convert flv to avi or so      avonv -i clip.flv clip.avi
[23:06] <trism> lunaphyte: indicator-appmenu, appmenu-{gtk,gtk3,qt}
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> Areckx  better use youtube-dl and then avconv to convert flv to avi or so      avconv -i clip.flv clip.avi
[23:07] <Deet`> this POS doesn't have proper gfdx drivers and i need internet to fix that crap
[23:07] <Deet`> gfx
[23:07] <Rubatharisan_> mutio, wilee, thanks :)
[23:07] <mutio> Deet // why not use the internet you're talking to us with?
[23:08] <Deet`> cause this is a windoze machine
[23:08] <lunaphyte> trism: those four packages are already installed
[23:08] <Areckx> MonkeyDust::  http://pastebin.com/A9fgC5Rr using that script, and also what about png format vo
[23:08] <Deet`> i need internet on the maclinux craptop
[23:08] <emx> i have no keyboard and mouse in X. also i get the error message "failed to load session "ubuntu"". what now?
[23:08] <trism> lunaphyte: that should be pretty much it, is this in unity or gnome-panel?
[23:08] <mutio> Deet // you can still d/l drivers, as long as you know what you're looking for
[23:08] <Meris> Deet`, ah, a MacBook, which one are you using?
[23:08] <lunaphyte> trism: unity - to be clear, the menu is there, it's just the "old" one.
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> Areckx  nice, but youtube + avconv is much simpler
[23:08] <Deet`> the USB card shows up fine in lsusb
[23:09] <MonkeyDust> Areckx  nice, but youtube-dl + avconv is much simpler
[23:09] <Deet`> meris: using a g3 i think
[23:09] <Areckx> MonkeyDust::  I want to use the script to make it into a gif
[23:09] <lunaphyte> for example, the network manager icon is two computers vs the up and down arrows
[23:09] <trism> lunaphyte: old means, not it the top panel?
[23:09] <Meris> Deet`, a G3? That's lappy belongs in a museum.
[23:09] <Meris> Deet`, a G3? That lappy belongs in a museum.
[23:09] <Deet`> most of my hardware belongs in a museum ;)
[23:10] <Deet`> i got pentium2's running windoze xp
[23:10] <mutio> Deet // is it impossible for a win machine to d/l maclinux drivers and them copy them to a usb stick?
[23:10] <Meris> Deet`, you may have more luck with the Yellowdog distro. It has ebeen mad especially for use on pre-Intel Macs.
[23:10] <Areckx> MonkeyDust::  I am trying to use the script that I pasted, the writer of the script doesn't know what's wrong with my packages
[23:10] <Deet`> meris: YellogDog? what's it based on?
[23:11] <reinis> Hello, my gui just crashed during upgrade from ubuntu 11 (i think compiz somehow went crazy, I still see mouse and background). Is it possible to complete upgrade from tty and if yes, how?
[23:11] <Rubatharisan_> ls
[23:11] <Deet`> Meris, and i could download mac drives to a usb, but i wouldn't have the slightest idea how to load them via commandline
[23:11] <Meris> Deet`, check out YDL.net
[23:11] <alex720> What DE were you using?
[23:12] <Meris> Deet`, it's a member of the RHEL family.
[23:12] <mutio> Deet // you'd mount the usb drive, cd to it, and cp  the files to the macbook's hdd
[23:14] <Troy^> hmm i think my external hard drive connect is only connect at usb 1.1 not 2.0 doing rsync transfers from an internal drive to the external are at like 1.2M/s
[23:14] <trism> lunaphyte: oh do you mean the hud? it should still be the same set of packages, though I did have an issue before 12.04 released where it wouldn't show up, but a: unity --reset; fixed it
[23:16] <Troy^> anyone know if there is a way to tell what usb version an external hard drive is currently connected as?
[23:16] <lunaphyte> trism: that didn't seem to work.
[23:16] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193645/ how to change png format pixels?
[23:16] <mutio> Troy^ // use "lsusb"
[23:16] <Meris> Troy^, try lsusb -vv
[23:17] <Deet`> YellowDog is out for the time being, i deon't have a DVD burner. like i said, my hard ware typically belongs in a museum
[23:18] <Meris> Deet`, I believe there is also a minimal network-installation ISO
[23:18] <Shinobi> I can't figure out what is using lots of network bandwith. Nethogs shows PID 0 as the only app using wifi adapter, with 0 sent and 0 recieved. Yet my wifi light is always blinking! Any ideas?
[23:18] <trism> lunaphyte: is the hud service running? you would need to restart your session after the unity --reset
[23:18] <Deet`> hrm, perhaps i should start from the beginning and maybe i can copy needed files over. let me get the original erros out
[23:18] <trism> lunaphyte: log out/back in
[23:18] <kiloton> hey
[23:18] <kiloton> has anyone here used boost?
[23:18] <Troy^> mutio: and Meris here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193650/ it's is not reallt evident how it is connected :S
[23:18] <Troy^> bus 001 device 002
[23:19] <kiloton> my shit's all fucked up and I can't make it work. how can I depend on dpkg-installed boost from a Jamfile?
[23:19] <Jordan_U> !language | kiloton
[23:19] <Meris> Troy^, bcdUSB               2.00 <= Looks like a USB2 connection to me.
[23:19] <Troy^> Meris: then why are my transfers like 1.2M/s
[23:19] <mutio> mabe an extra slow usb drive?
[23:20] <Meris> Deet`, look up the YDL.net manual. you can also use CD-R's as installation medium.
[23:20] <Deet`> ok, ubutnu 12.02 splash comes up and then guys to "the system is running in low graphics mode, your screen, graphics card and input settings could not be detected correctly"
[23:20] <Troy^> mutio: this is actually a usb3.0 drive and when i connect it to my usb3.0 port on my windows machine it does transfers at 130MB/s
[23:20] <Deet`> 12.04*
[23:21] <Troy^> mutio: i was just inspecting usb2.0 speeds as it is a usb2.0 port it is connected too on the linux box
[23:21] <Shinobi> Is there a way to find out what's using my wifi?
[23:21] <lunaphyte> trism: no luck after relogging in.  when i did unity -- reset i got pages full of errors and warnings though.
[23:21] <Deet`> running in low graphics mode for one session cuts to command line. reconfigure graphics cuts to command line
[23:22] <mutio> Troy^ // don't do much with usb 3.0, but maybe if the linux box doesn't support 3.0 the drive defaults back to 1.1?
[23:22] <Deet`> i had problems with usb3.0 on a live disk. couldnt even recognize the drive
[23:22] <Troy^> mutio: no idea but did as it said connected at 2.0 in the lsusb
[23:22] <WeThePeople> [[[]]]
[23:23] <Meris> Deet`, I'm surprised that the 12.04 version runs at all. Impressive... Try the Alternate version instead. It has more options for odd or outdated computers. Still, I am doubtful if your G3 lappy will meet the minimum requirements, especially when it comes to memory requirements.
[23:23] <trism> lunaphyte: most of them are probably harmless, did you mess with any options in ccsm?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> Troy^: How are you measuring the drive's speed? Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg" to see if there are some errors slowing things down?
[23:23] <WeThePeople> whats up with this char. [
[23:23] <lunaphyte> trism: no, i haven't used ccsm
[23:23] <Troy^> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193669/
[23:23] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[23:24] <WeThePeople> why []
[23:24] <WeThePeople> same with you jordan_u
[23:24] <WeThePeople> []
[23:24] <Deet`> meris: exceds the minimum by just a hare. iirc, there was only one option for iso download. the confusing part to me is that lspci shows the ATI Rage Mobility just fine
[23:24] <Troy^> Jordan_U: it is a WD MyBook 3tb external usb3.0 drive
[23:24] <Troy^> Jordan_U: connected to a usb2.0 port
[23:25] <Troy^> Jordan_U: it is using usbmount
[23:25] <Deet`> hair*
[23:25] <trism> lunaphyte: not really sure at this point, is hud-service running? is this unity-2d or unity-3d?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> WeThePeople: If you wish to discuss your mute please join #ubuntu-ops.
[23:26] <siriusone> hi
[23:26] <Meris> Deet`, if it exceeds the minimums by ahair you won't be able to run X-Windows. The console should be available though.
[23:26] <lunaphyte> trism: how can i see if it's unity-2d or unity-3d?
[23:27] <lunaphyte> trism: hud-service appears to be running.
[23:27] <siriusone> can someone confirm that they are receiving this
[23:27] <siriusone> ?
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> siriusone  you're in
[23:27] <siriusone> MonkeyDust thanks mate!
[23:27] <lunaphyte> oh, i've just noticed maybe another clue.  all of the windows and dialogs are that sort of clunky, windows 95-ish look now too.
[23:27] <siriusone> I am trying out Centerim, it's a bit confusing.
[23:27] <trism> lunaphyte: is gnome-settings-daemon running?
[23:28] <Troy^> Jordan_U: this is the drive http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=240
[23:28] <trism> lunaphyte: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION; should tell you if you are in unity or unity-2d
[23:28] <Jordan_U> Troy^: How are you testing the drive's speed?
[23:28] <Troy^> Jordan_U: rsync --progress -h -a <dir> <dir>
[23:29] <Meris> Deet`, try the safe video mode. However, the safe video mode is heavier on the CPU, because all gfx will be rendered by CPU alone.
[23:29] <siriusone> test
[23:29] <Deet`> meris: i have console, nothing else. has that been my problem this whole time?
[23:29] <Meris> siriusone, I'm receiving you loud and clear, proceeed.
[23:30] <siriusone> can I ask a silly question. What sort of terminal clients do you guys use for IM'ing and IRC?
[23:30] <Meris> Deet`, probably. There are distro's which are geared specifically to very old hardware, such as Puppy Linux, most are exclusively for the x86-platform though.
[23:31] <Deet`> ok, lemme see if it gives me a safe video option
[23:31] <Meris> Deet`, my Pentium3 lappy  runs great on Puppy Wary
[23:31] <Deet`> if not, i'll go digging around yellowdog
[23:31] <MonkeyDust> siriusone  irssi
[23:32] <siriusone> Monkey, for IM too?
[23:32] <Deet`> meris: the error i get on boot doesn't give me a safe video option
[23:32] <siriusone> Sry for the dumb questions, I am new to the CLI IM'ing thing.
[23:32] <Deet`> well it gives "run in low graphics mode for just one session" but that quits to console
[23:32] <akubfa9jf9ov2> would you recommend please a good audio player? i'm coming from windows, using a lot of winamp, so something similar would be great, also needs to have eq and play flac
[23:32] <Jordan_U> Troy^: Do you have a spare partition on the drive? I'm curious to try writing to the drive directly via dd to rule out problems with the filesystem layer (but that can be dangerous, and requires an unused area of the drive for testing).
[23:33] <akubfa9jf9ov2> dont want no flame war, just want recommendations
[23:33] <mutio> Troy^ // how is read speed for that drive?
[23:33] <Meris> Deet`, in that case use the Alternate version. Still, I think that Ubuntu 12.04 won't be viable option on your machine, not even the low-resource desktops will run properly.
[23:33] <Troy^> Jordan_U: no there is no spare partition currently the drive is NTFS.. let's see mutio I'll transfer something from it
[23:33] <lunaphyte> trism: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION says "ubuntu"
[23:33] <Deet`> Meris: ok, i'll go looking around YellowDogs website
[23:33] <Deet`> thanks
[23:33] <Meris> Deet`, It doesn't hurt to try of course ;-) It *will* cost you time, however.
[23:33] <yakster_> I use armok… but mostly XBMC
[23:33] <trism> lunaphyte: then should be unity-3d
[23:34] <ILikeMoose> akubfa9jf9ov2, try audacious
[23:34] <Meris> Deet`, good luck :-)
[23:34] <Deet`> thanks
[23:34] <lunaphyte> trism: gnome-settings-daemon is running
[23:34] <akubfa9jf9ov2> ILikeMoose: thanks! will do
[23:34] <yakster_> armok, vlc, xbmc, plex-media-server, subsonic….
[23:34] <trism> lunaphyte: so hitting alt doesn't pop up the hud? or is this not what you are talking about
[23:34] <MonkeyDust> akubfa9jf9ov2  audious even has a winamp-mode
[23:35] <ILikeMoose> akubfa9jf9ov2, just make sure to switch the view to classic winamp interface
[23:35] <MonkeyDust> audacios*
[23:35] <akubfa9jf9ov2> nice, thanks guys
[23:35] <akubfa9jf9ov2> seeya
[23:36] <lunaphyte> trism: oh, sorry - no.  when i press alt, the hud comes up yes.  i didn't know what's what that was called.  i'm referring to the menu bar at the top of the screen where the icons are on the right side for various things like battery, network, etc [as well as the window style too, it appears]
[23:36] <angela-> hi i whas eble to copy the config file from ngircd to a right thrble place but problem stil is i dont no how to  make the config file from ngircd enyone a ide ware i can fint a god exemple how to right him/
[23:37] <emx> how on earth can i move the close-, minimise- and maximise-button move from top left to top right in gnome?
[23:37] <cowsquad> Does anyone know how to fix the suspend bug on ubuntu 12.04
[23:38] <Troy^> Jordan_U and mutio right now i'm using wget to download a 250mb bin file which i just tested on my internal drive at 5.7MB/s and now trying to wget it on my external and its at 517KB/s when it is done i'll try and rsync transfer to my internal drive and see what kind of read speeds i get
[23:38] <yakster_> can anyone point me in the right direction here, i ahve 4 nas servers that are alyws on casue they are staticly mounted in fstab… how can i make them dynamic. 3 are Goflex-Home (1TB,2TB3TB) and 1 Airport extreme USB disk…
[23:40] <trism> lunaphyte: so you are missing the file/edit/help etc menus or are you missing the indicators on the right?
[23:41] <trism> lunaphyte: the window style is kind of odd that usually means gnome-settings-daemon crashed
[23:41] <lunaphyte> trism: the indicators are there, they're just not the same ones as were there initially.
[23:41] <trism> lunaphyte: unless you removed light-themes
[23:41] <trism> lunaphyte: do you have a screenshot?
[23:41] <Troy^> Jordan_U: could it be usbmount that is what i used to get it to mount i believe.
[23:42] <lunaphyte> trism: light-themes is installed.  let me see if i can get a screenshot
[23:43] <Troy^> that is weird
[23:43] <Troy^> Jordan_U: sent 105.65M bytes  received 31 bytes  16.25M bytes/sec
[23:44] <leslie_> Still pulling out my hair, I can see myself connected to the router, but cannot go an inch further, and don't know how I should go about connecting.  les tells me that there is no proxy here I am lost completely
[23:44] <Troy^> Jordan_U: so the read speeds seem respectful. so why are the write speeds so slow? mutio
[23:44] <treeprogram_> Hi, in Ubuntu, how do I create a shortcut that will switch to desktop
[23:45] <treeprogram_> ?
[23:45] <lunaphyte> trism: http://oi45.tinypic.com/oacg1g.jpg
[23:45] <treeprogram_> I
[23:45] <Meris> !desktop | treeprogram_
[23:45] <mutio> Troy^ // it could either be because it's ntfs, which runs slow on linux, or else because you don't have usb 3.0 support
[23:45] <treeprogram_> Meris where do I type this?
[23:45] <Meris> !enter | treeprogram_
[23:46] <treeprogram_> ubottu sorry it was an accident
[23:46] <Troy^> probablly because it is ntfs mutio you think?
[23:46] <trism> lunaphyte: what is: gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme;
[23:46] <Meris> treeprogram_, never mind,  I gave the wrong command to ubottu, sorry for the confusion.
[23:47] <treeprogram_> Meris can you elaborate? I am a newbie to the linux/debian environment
[23:47] <mutio> Troy^ // maybe  because of ntfs. but there's no safe way to test if you don't have some other partition on the drive
[23:47] <Troy^> mutio: i can back up the data on the 3tb and format the whole thing ext4
[23:47] <trism> lunaphyte: I'm guessing the problem is that the icons are weird, looks like it is the gnome or hicolor icon theme (icon-theme might be interesting to check too)
[23:47] <Smackbook1> is there a way to use diff so that it detects two files with the same content as differing only in their names?  rather than seeing them as two seperate files?
[23:48] <Meris> treeprogram_, this has nothing to do with linux/ debian, as Unity is specific to Ubuntu., however the shortcut to show the Desktop is Ctrl + Super + D (Super is the left Windows key)
[23:48] <Smackbook1> would git diff be better?
[23:48] <Areckx>  How do I install this version of mplayer? MPlayer 1.0rc4-4.4.5 (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team
[23:48] <mutio> Troy^ // that sounds like a lot of effort
[23:48] <Troy^> meh there is only like 12gb currently on the drive mutio
[23:48] <MonkeyDust> Areckx  if it's not in the repos, it's not supported here
[23:48] <Smackbook1> Troy^: if you do that, be sure to use rsync to do the copy
[23:48] <Troy^> Smackbook1: yes doing it now
[23:49] <Meris> treeprogram_,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/65971/what-is-the-show-desktop-keyboard-shortcut
[23:49] <dr_willis> Areckx:  if you need newer versions of stuff. serach for a ppa for it.
[23:49] <dr_willis> !ppa | Areckx
[23:49] <Jordan_U> Troy^: Let's confirm that just the write speed is bad. "dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/mountpoint/test.file bs=1M count=1k".
[23:50] <Meris> treeprogram_, I've just tested Ctrl + LeftWindows (or Cmd key if you are using a Mac keyboard like me) + D does work
[23:50] <dr_willis> treeprogram_:  press and hold the SUPER key to see a shortcut help page.
[23:50] <Areckx> I need to downgrade
[23:50] <Troy^> ok Jordan_U
[23:50] <Areckx> where can I compile the source code of that speciic version?>
[23:50] <yshi> n you boot to a pcie ssd?
[23:50] <dr_willis> Areckx:  find the source.. start compiling..
[23:50] <Areckx> dr_jesus::  where?
[23:50] <dr_willis> Areckx:  if an older verison is in the repos you can pin it.
[23:50] <Areckx> ...
[23:50] <Areckx> HOW?
[23:50] <dr_willis> Areckx:  i would guess the mplayer homepage perhaps.
[23:50] <Areckx> what do I tye?
[23:50] <Areckx> type
[23:50] <dr_willis> !pin | Areckx
[23:50] <treeprogram_> Meris Super key means the left directional key on a Windows keyboard
[23:51] <yshi> i installed from dvd, and after reboot i get "error: unknown filesystem"
[23:51] <Areckx> so what do I type to downgrade my version?
[23:51] <Areckx> do I purge first?
[23:51] <dr_willis> Areckx:  i would look in synaptic and see if the older version is even in the repos.
[23:51] <Troy^> Jordan_U: so i'm using a file that i have right
[23:52] <Meris> treeprogram_, not exactly the Super key is the left key on your keyboard with a Windows symbol on it.
[23:52] <treeprogram_> FYI, the super key is the key with the Windows logo on it on a Windows keyboard
[23:53] <Troy^> Jordan_U: i made the mistake of starting a rsync backup
[23:53] <lunaphyte> gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme; says "adwaita"
[23:53] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_%28keyboard_button%29
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Troy^: By using dd with "if=/dev/zero" you're grabbing zeroes generated on the fly (essentially unlimited read speed) so that you know your bottleneck is actually the writing of the file.
[23:53] <wan26> do any keyboards come with the ubuntu logo already on the keyboard? [ awaits ot fans]
[23:53] <trism> lunaphyte: ah hah, try going to System Settings/Appearance and set it to Ambiance
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> Troy^  mistake? rsync is what i use, too
[23:54] <trism> lunaphyte: alternatively you could make sure gnome-themes-standard is installed so you could successfully use that theme
[23:54] <dr_willis> In most non-Windows operating systems the super key is mapped to the Windows key and is the preferred term for that key.[3][citation needed]
[23:54] <dr_willis> wan26:  yes..or you can buy stickers
[23:54] <wan26> thanks, i think i will
[23:54] <Meris> treeprogram_, it is also referred to as Mod4
[23:55] <OerHeks> wan26 contact your local ubuntu comunity to see if they can provide a sticker with logo
[23:55] <lunaphyte> trism: aha - setting it to ambiance seemed to do the trick
[23:55] <wan26> didnt know that was possible , awesome. thnks
[23:55] <trism> lunaphyte: fixed the icons too?
[23:56] <lunaphyte> trism: just checking a bit - seems to have though, yeah.
[23:56] <trism> lunaphyte: excellent
[23:56] <Troy^> Jordan_U: i'm running it now but BS=1M and count=1K i assume that is one gb
[23:57] <Jordan_U> Troy^: Yes, that is 1 GiB. If it's taking too long you can stop it early with ctrl+C and still get statistics.
[23:57] <Troy^> Jordan_U: yea it is taking quite a while lol
[23:57] <lunaphyte> trism: thanks much for the help.  gnome-themes-standard wasn't installed, but i was able to switch to the ambiance theme.  what did you mean by successfully use that theme?
[23:57] <Troy^> Jordan_U: 142606336 bytes (143 MB) copied, 106.73 s, 1.3 MB/s
[23:57] <Troy^> Jordan_U: it is just the write speed
[23:59] <Troy^> Jordan_U: since there isn't much on the ext and the write speeds are decent i'll back up what is there and format it ext4'
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Troy^: Yup, appears so. It would be nice to be able to check if it's a bottleneck in ntfs-3g, but if it's not then rezing the ntfs partition from this computer will take a *long* time. Can you resize the partition from Windows or another working machine (after backing up anything important) to test? If it's a lot of trouble then it's probably not worth doing.
[23:59] <trism> lunaphyte: adwaita is the default gnome 3 theme, but unity/ubuntu uses Ambiance/unico by default, so adwaita isn't installed