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FloatingGoathi04:39
len-dtHi04:39
FloatingGoathey i just got this new mic04:40
FloatingGoatits a condensermic04:40
len-dtOk04:40
FloatingGoatand i got it with this m audio thing04:40
FloatingGoatusb interface04:40
FloatingGoatis it supposed to be only in mono04:40
len-dtOk, makes sense04:41
len-dtThe "m-audio thing" is a mic to USB cord04:41
len-dt?04:42
FloatingGoatyeah04:42
len-dtI laid down 8 Tracks today. Used two inputs one for mic and one for guitar/bass04:42
FloatingGoatits not a chord04:43
len-dtOk04:43
FloatingGoatits a box thing04:43
len-dtDoes the box have more than one input?04:44
FloatingGoatyes04:45
len-dtOk, and the computer can see them all?04:46
len-dtAnyway, most mics are mono devices. Sometimes mics come in matched sets of two for stereo.04:53
len-dtSometimes there are really cheap ones that have two mics in one head and pretend to be stereo and there are really expensive ones that do give stereo.04:54
len-dtNormally a stereo mic or pair is only used for recording live concerts of large groups of instruments. Most music is done with mono mics.04:55
len-dtEven most $5000 are mono.04:55
cwilluexceptions include drums (overheads) and piano (and not always), and are still pairs of mono04:56
cwillu</nocontext>04:56
len-dtYup04:57
len-dtanyway FloatingGoat I have to go to bed... see you later.04:58
FloatingGoatokay that makes sense05:24
FloatingGoatt05:24
FloatingGoats05:24
FloatingGoatthat makes sense05:24
kuubhi10:06
smartboyhwhi kuub10:06
kuubdo you know about some web where i can download midi and audio loops? )10:09
smartboyhwkuub: Google it:)10:09
smartboyhwhttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=MIDI+and+audio+loops10:10
Unit193!lmgtfy | smartboyhw10:11
ubottusmartboyhw: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.10:11
smartboyhw...10:11
smartboyhwkuub: free-loops.com I think10:12
kuubthx :D10:13
smartboyhw;D10:13
kuubi thought that you know some pages ;) so you know which is best10:13
`wookiewhat's the easiest and fastest way to zero a hard drive?10:34
smartboyhwYou mean to format it?10:34
`wookiedd? wipe? boot2nuke?10:34
`wookieno i mean like restore to factory settings. i was stupid and created sda1 in the middle of the drive and now i can't change it10:35
smartboyhw!?10:36
`wookieeven when i format it, the drive assignments are still not in the right order or the right place. it's preventing me from installing anything like ubuntu 12.04, mint 13 or anything other than knoppix10:36
smartboyhw`wookie, I think you mean to reinstall Ubuntu Studio10:37
smartboyhwAlso, do you HAVE a problem in Ubuntu Studio?10:37
`wookiewell that's the general idea10:37
`wookiewell, i had it loaded, and it was acting funny so i bought a new hard drive and tried reinstalling it10:37
smartboyhw`wookie, it may be corrupted then10:38
`wookieso it won't. so i tried the other linux versions and they all had problems except for systemrestorecd and knoppix. the idea is to get it workable for ubuntu studio pangolin back on it10:38
`wookieub st works perfectly on all my other laptops10:39
`wookiewhich would be corrupted? the installing media? or the hard drive u mean/10:39
`wookie?10:39
smartboyhwBoth may be possible10:39
`wookiewriting zeros to the drive would fix that problem hopefully no?10:41
smartboyhwI don't know10:43
`wookieso back to my first question, what's the easiest and fastest way to wipe a drive? dd/wipe/boot2nuke? ;)10:43
kuubhi, i installed ustudio next to ubuntu and i cant choose which os i want to use when i start the pc :(10:56
smartboyhwkuub: What? Why?10:57
smartboyhwDid it just skip to ubuntu?10:57
smartboyhwkuub: I think you should have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot10:58
kuubye it just skip to ubuntu10:59
kuubbad :/11:02
smartboyhwkuub: Look at the link11:02
kuubi looked but i dont thing that its my case11:11
kuubis it?11:11
smartboyhwI think so11:13
smartboyhwTry it first11:13
Laserebeakhello i have an HPCompaq dc5700 - I've been trying to get audio to work but when i check for hardware(which i have) it says:13:05
Laserebeakaplay -l13:05
Laserebeakaplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...13:05
Laserebeakcould anyone please help?13:05
smartboyhwHi13:05
Laserebeakhello13:07
smartboyhwHmm13:07
smartboyhwWhich soundcard do you have?13:07
Laserebeaknothing special, just the one integrated with this chipset13:08
Laserebeakso i'm guessign some sort of intel chip13:08
Laserebeaksorry if that's bad info13:08
smartboyhwailo: You here? Help Laserebeak13:09
smartboyhwSorry I don't know much about audio:(13:09
Laserebeakmaybe should check and see if it's enabled in BIOS13:09
Laserebeakno problem, thanks for trying13:09
smartboyhwMaybe you don't have the drivers?13:09
Laserebeakyes but i dont know how to get them, since ubuntu doesnt detect my hardware13:09
smartboyhwGrrr13:10
Laserebeaki'm going to reboot and check bios brb13:10
Laserebeakhey again13:15
smartboyhwHey13:15
Laserebeaknothing even regarding audio in the bios menu13:15
smartboyhwOh13:15
ailoLaserebeak: I'd see if the device is supported by alsa. You could try finding the specs from the manufacturer. lspci -vv tells you something about what HW you have13:19
smartboyhwYeah ailo13:19
ailoLaserebeak: To get more info, I'd recommend going to #alsa or their mail list13:19
ailoLaserebeak: Nothing in: cat /proc/asound/cards?13:20
ailoLaserebeak: lspci -vv | grep Audio, or lspci -vv | grep audio, may be faster13:22
Laserebeakhi ailo, that returns --- no soundcards ---13:22
Laserebeaklsmod | grep '^snd' returns snd_hda_intel amoung others13:23
ailoLaserebeak: How about lspci -vv?13:23
Laserebeak00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)13:24
Laserebeakthere is hope!13:24
ailoIs that maybe the HDMI output?13:24
Laserebeakno, i dont have hdmi13:25
MOSMarauderLaserebeak: sure ? if i search HP for your Computer model i find Realtek Audio13:25
Laserebeakdc570013:26
MOSMarauderhttp://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=de&cc=de&prodNameId=3249647&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=3249645&swLang=18&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093#11316513:26
MOSMarauderyep13:26
Laserebeaki dont have any hdmi ports13:26
MOSMarauderexactly13:26
smartboyhwIntegrated High Definition audio with Realtek 2 channel ALC260 codec13:26
MOSMarauder;)13:26
MOSMarauderthats what i also found13:26
Laserebeakok thanks guys :)13:27
smartboyhwIt is reasonable he doesn13:27
Laserebeakbut how do i install the drivers?13:27
MOSMarauderimho they should work by default13:27
smartboyhw't have a HDMI port, since that it's Vista13:27
MOSMarauderor go to realtek.com and check for a linux driver for ALC26013:27
smartboyhwLaserebeak, did you try PulseAudio???13:27
Laserebeakok thanks13:28
Laserebeakno i didnt13:28
Laserebeakwhich package should i get?13:28
ailoIt's strange if you don't find anything in /proc/asound/cards13:28
ailoLaserebeak: pulseaudio is installed by default13:28
ailoIt's the desktop sound system13:28
MOSMarauderu can first check your BIOS for audio settings (if enabled or if there is something like integrated audio HD Codec or switchable to something more common13:29
Laserebeakdad@Amon-PC:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards13:29
MOSMarauderi had 2 choices for my Realtek onboard13:29
LaserebeakMOSMarauder: treid taht already didnt find anything related to audio(weird i know)13:30
smartboyhwMe too13:30
smartboyhwI did find 2 choices13:30
MOSMarauderhm do HP use crippled bios versions?13:30
smartboyhwLaserebeak, just list it out13:30
Laserebeaklist what out?13:30
smartboyhwList the cat /proc/asound/cards output out13:30
smartboyhwTo paste.ubuntu.com13:30
MOSMaraudernormally u can switch from HD Audio to a52 codec.. and THIS one should be found by default13:31
Laserebeak--- no soundcards ---13:31
MOSMaraudercuz generic drivers also work then13:31
Laserebeakhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1192703/13:32
smartboyhwThat IS weird13:33
MOSMaraudermaybe it uses the intel driver for HDMI output and the realtek is the "main" audio13:33
MOSMaraudermaybe a list of all "pci" devices would help13:33
MOSMarauderdue it should be listed there13:33
Laserebeakhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1192710/13:34
smartboyhwThere is one13:35
smartboyhw00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 02)13:35
MOSMarauder2bad that HP dont have a manual of this mobo online13:35
Laserebeakhttp://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false13:36
Laserebeakis theis what i need to be looking at?13:37
Laserebeakthis*13:37
smartboyhwYes13:37
MOSMarauderthat would be the windows drivers i guess13:37
smartboyhwMOSMarauder, there is Linux drivers at the bottom:(13:37
Laserebeaklinux is on the bottom13:37
MOSMarauderon that link i only see accept xD13:38
MOSMarauderah ok now13:38
Laserebeaklol13:38
smartboyhwMOSMarauder: Click accept:(13:38
MOSMarauderk get the ones from 2012 and try13:38
Laserebeakdid a whole buch of stuff in terminal and just closed...13:40
MOSMarauderno readme ?13:40
Laserebeakmy sound device is still "dummy output"13:40
Laserebeakyeah, i 'll try the manual way13:41
MOSMarauderk13:41
Laserebeak"open terminal here" would be nice :)13:41
MOSMarauderAutomatic install:13:45
MOSMarauderexecute13:45
MOSMarauder  ./install13:45
MOSMarauderNote: Please check Development tool kit on your OS.13:45
MOSMarauderManual install:13:45
MOSMarauderStep 1. unzip source code13:45
MOSMarauder        tar xfvj alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz213:45
MOSMarauderStep 2. Complied source code13:45
MOSMaraudera. cd alsa-driver-1.0.xx13:45
MOSMarauderb. ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel13:45
MOSMarauderc. make13:45
MOSMarauderd. make install13:45
MOSMarauderStep 3. reboot your machine13:45
smartboyhwMOSMarauder, next time paste it:)13:45
MOSMarauderah ja ..sorry .. forgot it13:46
Laserebeakyeap running make now :)13:47
smartboyhwGood:)13:47
MOSMaraudergood luck13:47
Laserebeakthaks! :)13:47
Laserebeakthanks13:47
Laserebeaki really need to tilt this keyboard :)13:47
smartboyhwLOL13:48
Laserebeakok gonna restart13:49
* Laserebeak crosses his fingers13:49
* smartboyhw hopes it will go good13:49
Laserebeaknope didnt work13:52
MOSMarauderhm13:53
smartboyhwHmm13:53
smartboyhwDon't tell me you didn't sudo make install13:53
Laserebeaki had to13:53
Laserebeakpermission denied with out it  :)13:53
Laserebeaki guess i'd better hit up alsa13:55
Laserebeakbtw13:57
Laserebeakthanks a ton for trying guys :)13:57
ailoLaserebeak: I was amazed there was such a thing as a alsa driver on their web site. Good luck14:18
Laserebeakseems #alsa == 67 people idling16:26
anturgorhi--ive just installed ubuntu studio 12.04 -- and puredata not working. i cannot seem to download and install pd-extended either.. any tips..18:46

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