[04:39] <FloatingGoat> hi
[04:39] <len-dt> Hi
[04:40] <FloatingGoat> hey i just got this new mic
[04:40] <FloatingGoat> its a condensermic
[04:40] <len-dt> Ok
[04:40] <FloatingGoat> and i got it with this m audio thing
[04:40] <FloatingGoat> usb interface
[04:40] <FloatingGoat> is it supposed to be only in mono
[04:41] <len-dt> Ok, makes sense
[04:41] <len-dt> The "m-audio thing" is a mic to USB cord
[04:42] <len-dt> ?
[04:42] <FloatingGoat> yeah
[04:42] <len-dt> I laid down 8 Tracks today. Used two inputs one for mic and one for guitar/bass
[04:43] <FloatingGoat> its not a chord
[04:43] <len-dt> Ok
[04:43] <FloatingGoat> its a box thing
[04:44] <len-dt> Does the box have more than one input?
[04:45] <FloatingGoat> yes
[04:46] <len-dt> Ok, and the computer can see them all?
[04:53] <len-dt> Anyway, most mics are mono devices. Sometimes mics come in matched sets of two for stereo.
[04:54] <len-dt> Sometimes there are really cheap ones that have two mics in one head and pretend to be stereo and there are really expensive ones that do give stereo.
[04:55] <len-dt> Normally a stereo mic or pair is only used for recording live concerts of large groups of instruments. Most music is done with mono mics.
[04:55] <len-dt> Even most $5000 are mono.
[04:56] <cwillu> exceptions include drums (overheads) and piano (and not always), and are still pairs of mono
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[04:57] <len-dt> Yup
[04:58] <len-dt> anyway FloatingGoat I have to go to bed... see you later.
[05:24] <FloatingGoat> okay that makes sense
[05:24] <FloatingGoat> t
[05:24] <FloatingGoat> s
[05:24] <FloatingGoat> that makes sense
[10:06] <kuub> hi
[10:06] <smartboyhw> hi kuub
[10:09] <kuub> do you know about some web where i can download midi and audio loops? )
[10:09] <smartboyhw> kuub: Google it:)
[10:10] <smartboyhw> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=MIDI+and+audio+loops
[10:11] <Unit193> !lmgtfy | smartboyhw
[10:11] <smartboyhw> ...
[10:12] <smartboyhw> kuub: free-loops.com I think
[10:13] <kuub> thx :D
[10:13] <smartboyhw> ;D
[10:13] <kuub> i thought that you know some pages ;) so you know which is best
[10:34] <`wookie> what's the easiest and fastest way to zero a hard drive?
[10:34] <smartboyhw> You mean to format it?
[10:34] <`wookie> dd? wipe? boot2nuke?
[10:35] <`wookie> no i mean like restore to factory settings. i was stupid and created sda1 in the middle of the drive and now i can't change it
[10:36] <smartboyhw> !?
[10:36] <`wookie> even when i format it, the drive assignments are still not in the right order or the right place. it's preventing me from installing anything like ubuntu 12.04, mint 13 or anything other than knoppix
[10:37] <smartboyhw> `wookie, I think you mean to reinstall Ubuntu Studio
[10:37] <smartboyhw> Also, do you HAVE a problem in Ubuntu Studio?
[10:37] <`wookie> well that's the general idea
[10:37] <`wookie> well, i had it loaded, and it was acting funny so i bought a new hard drive and tried reinstalling it
[10:38] <smartboyhw> `wookie, it may be corrupted then
[10:38] <`wookie> so it won't. so i tried the other linux versions and they all had problems except for systemrestorecd and knoppix. the idea is to get it workable for ubuntu studio pangolin back on it
[10:39] <`wookie> ub st works perfectly on all my other laptops
[10:39] <`wookie> which would be corrupted? the installing media? or the hard drive u mean/
[10:39] <`wookie> ?
[10:39] <smartboyhw> Both may be possible
[10:41] <`wookie> writing zeros to the drive would fix that problem hopefully no?
[10:43] <smartboyhw> I don't know
[10:43] <`wookie> so back to my first question, what's the easiest and fastest way to wipe a drive? dd/wipe/boot2nuke? ;)
[10:56] <kuub> hi, i installed ustudio next to ubuntu and i cant choose which os i want to use when i start the pc :(
[10:57] <smartboyhw> kuub: What? Why?
[10:57] <smartboyhw> Did it just skip to ubuntu?
[10:58] <smartboyhw> kuub: I think you should have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/87409/i-cant-get-grub-menu-to-show-up-during-boot
[10:59] <kuub> ye it just skip to ubuntu
[11:02] <kuub> bad :/
[11:02] <smartboyhw> kuub: Look at the link
[11:11] <kuub> i looked but i dont thing that its my case
[11:11] <kuub> is it?
[11:13] <smartboyhw> I think so
[11:13] <smartboyhw> Try it first
[13:05] <Laserebeak> hello i have an HPCompaq dc5700 - I've been trying to get audio to work but when i check for hardware(which i have) it says:
[13:05] <Laserebeak> aplay -l
[13:05] <Laserebeak> aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[13:05] <Laserebeak> could anyone please help?
[13:05] <smartboyhw> Hi
[13:07] <Laserebeak> hello
[13:07] <smartboyhw> Hmm
[13:07] <smartboyhw> Which soundcard do you have?
[13:08] <Laserebeak> nothing special, just the one integrated with this chipset
[13:08] <Laserebeak> so i'm guessign some sort of intel chip
[13:08] <Laserebeak> sorry if that's bad info
[13:09] <smartboyhw> ailo: You here? Help Laserebeak
[13:09] <smartboyhw> Sorry I don't know much about audio:(
[13:09] <Laserebeak> maybe should check and see if it's enabled in BIOS
[13:09] <Laserebeak> no problem, thanks for trying
[13:09] <smartboyhw> Maybe you don't have the drivers?
[13:09] <Laserebeak> yes but i dont know how to get them, since ubuntu doesnt detect my hardware
[13:10] <smartboyhw> Grrr
[13:10] <Laserebeak> i'm going to reboot and check bios brb
[13:15] <Laserebeak> hey again
[13:15] <smartboyhw> Hey
[13:15] <Laserebeak> nothing even regarding audio in the bios menu
[13:15] <smartboyhw> Oh
[13:19] <ailo> Laserebeak: I'd see if the device is supported by alsa. You could try finding the specs from the manufacturer. lspci -vv tells you something about what HW you have
[13:19] <smartboyhw> Yeah ailo
[13:19] <ailo> Laserebeak: To get more info, I'd recommend going to #alsa or their mail list
[13:20] <ailo> Laserebeak: Nothing in: cat /proc/asound/cards?
[13:22] <ailo> Laserebeak: lspci -vv | grep Audio, or lspci -vv | grep audio, may be faster
[13:22] <Laserebeak> hi ailo, that returns --- no soundcards ---
[13:23] <Laserebeak> lsmod | grep '^snd' returns snd_hda_intel amoung others
[13:23] <ailo> Laserebeak: How about lspci -vv?
[13:24] <Laserebeak> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[13:24] <Laserebeak> there is hope!
[13:24] <ailo> Is that maybe the HDMI output?
[13:25] <Laserebeak> no, i dont have hdmi
[13:25] <MOSMarauder> Laserebeak: sure ? if i search HP for your Computer model i find Realtek Audio
[13:26] <Laserebeak> dc5700
[13:26] <MOSMarauder> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=de&cc=de&prodNameId=3249647&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=3249645&swLang=18&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093#113165
[13:26] <MOSMarauder> yep
[13:26] <Laserebeak> i dont have any hdmi ports
[13:26] <MOSMarauder> exactly
[13:26] <smartboyhw> Integrated High Definition audio with Realtek 2 channel ALC260 codec
[13:26] <MOSMarauder> ;)
[13:26] <MOSMarauder> thats what i also found
[13:27] <Laserebeak> ok thanks guys :)
[13:27] <smartboyhw> It is reasonable he doesn
[13:27] <Laserebeak> but how do i install the drivers?
[13:27] <MOSMarauder> imho they should work by default
[13:27] <smartboyhw> 't have a HDMI port, since that it's Vista
[13:27] <MOSMarauder> or go to realtek.com and check for a linux driver for ALC260
[13:27] <smartboyhw> Laserebeak, did you try PulseAudio???
[13:28] <Laserebeak> ok thanks
[13:28] <Laserebeak> no i didnt
[13:28] <Laserebeak> which package should i get?
[13:28] <ailo> It's strange if you don't find anything in /proc/asound/cards
[13:28] <ailo> Laserebeak: pulseaudio is installed by default
[13:28] <ailo> It's the desktop sound system
[13:29] <MOSMarauder> u can first check your BIOS for audio settings (if enabled or if there is something like integrated audio HD Codec or switchable to something more common
[13:29] <Laserebeak> dad@Amon-PC:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[13:29] <MOSMarauder> i had 2 choices for my Realtek onboard
[13:30] <Laserebeak> MOSMarauder: treid taht already didnt find anything related to audio(weird i know)
[13:30] <smartboyhw> Me too
[13:30] <smartboyhw> I did find 2 choices
[13:30] <MOSMarauder> hm do HP use crippled bios versions?
[13:30] <smartboyhw> Laserebeak, just list it out
[13:30] <Laserebeak> list what out?
[13:30] <smartboyhw> List the cat /proc/asound/cards output out
[13:30] <smartboyhw> To paste.ubuntu.com
[13:31] <MOSMarauder> normally u can switch from HD Audio to a52 codec.. and THIS one should be found by default
[13:31] <Laserebeak> --- no soundcards ---
[13:31] <MOSMarauder> cuz generic drivers also work then
[13:32] <Laserebeak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192703/
[13:33] <smartboyhw> That IS weird
[13:33] <MOSMarauder> maybe it uses the intel driver for HDMI output and the realtek is the "main" audio
[13:33] <MOSMarauder> maybe a list of all "pci" devices would help
[13:33] <MOSMarauder> due it should be listed there
[13:34] <Laserebeak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1192710/
[13:35] <smartboyhw> There is one
[13:35] <smartboyhw> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 02)
[13:35] <MOSMarauder> 2bad that HP dont have a manual of this mobo online
[13:36] <Laserebeak> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[13:37] <Laserebeak> is theis what i need to be looking at?
[13:37] <Laserebeak> this*
[13:37] <smartboyhw> Yes
[13:37] <MOSMarauder> that would be the windows drivers i guess
[13:37] <smartboyhw> MOSMarauder, there is Linux drivers at the bottom:(
[13:37] <Laserebeak> linux is on the bottom
[13:38] <MOSMarauder> on that link i only see accept xD
[13:38] <MOSMarauder> ah ok now
[13:38] <Laserebeak> lol
[13:38] <smartboyhw> MOSMarauder: Click accept:(
[13:38] <MOSMarauder> k get the ones from 2012 and try
[13:40] <Laserebeak> did a whole buch of stuff in terminal and just closed...
[13:40] <MOSMarauder> no readme ?
[13:40] <Laserebeak> my sound device is still "dummy output"
[13:41] <Laserebeak> yeah, i 'll try the manual way
[13:41] <MOSMarauder> k
[13:41] <Laserebeak> "open terminal here" would be nice :)
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> Automatic install:
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> execute
[13:45] <MOSMarauder>   ./install
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> Note: Please check Development tool kit on your OS.
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> Manual install:
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> Step 1. unzip source code
[13:45] <MOSMarauder>         tar xfvj alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz2
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> Step 2. Complied source code
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> 	a. cd alsa-driver-1.0.xx
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> 	b. ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> 	c. make
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> 	d. make install
[13:45] <MOSMarauder> Step 3. reboot your machine
[13:45] <smartboyhw> MOSMarauder, next time paste it:)
[13:46] <MOSMarauder> ah ja ..sorry .. forgot it
[13:47] <Laserebeak> yeap running make now :)
[13:47] <smartboyhw> Good:)
[13:47] <MOSMarauder> good luck
[13:47] <Laserebeak> thaks! :)
[13:47] <Laserebeak> thanks
[13:47] <Laserebeak> i really need to tilt this keyboard :)
[13:48] <smartboyhw> LOL
[13:49] <Laserebeak> ok gonna restart
[13:49]  * Laserebeak crosses his fingers
[13:49]  * smartboyhw hopes it will go good
[13:52] <Laserebeak> nope didnt work
[13:53] <MOSMarauder> hm
[13:53] <smartboyhw> Hmm
[13:53] <smartboyhw> Don't tell me you didn't sudo make install
[13:53] <Laserebeak> i had to
[13:53] <Laserebeak> permission denied with out it  :)
[13:55] <Laserebeak> i guess i'd better hit up alsa
[13:57] <Laserebeak> btw
[13:57] <Laserebeak> thanks a ton for trying guys :)
[14:18] <ailo> Laserebeak: I was amazed there was such a thing as a alsa driver on their web site. Good luck
[16:26] <Laserebeak> seems #alsa == 67 people idling
[18:46] <anturgor> hi--ive just installed ubuntu studio 12.04 -- and puredata not working. i cannot seem to download and install pd-extended either.. any tips..