[00:13] <xnox> pleia2: ok. I upload ubiquity which should unbreak the quantal daily cds. whenever those will be build & published next.
[00:13] <xnox> s/upload/uploaded/
[00:14] <pleia2> xnox: great!
[00:14] <pleia2> no more 50 thunar windows :)
[00:15] <xnox> pleia2: yes. Apperantly the bug was reported back in 2011, when thunar switched from udisks -> udisks2
[00:16] <xnox> pleia2: but little did ubiquity now, that the world has moved on from our ways to "freeze disks": hal, devkit-disks, udisks & setting manual options all over the place.
[00:16] <xnox> now we support udisks2 as well....
[00:16] <pleia2> ah
[00:16] <xnox> pleia2: also theming should be better.
[00:16] <pleia2> xnox: the black on black?
[00:16] <xnox> yes.
[00:16]  * pleia2 cheers
[00:17] <xnox> well it was a a11y fix, cause gtk high contrast themes were broken as well.
[00:17]  * pleia2 nods
[00:17] <xnox> but there are still minor problems with booting CD as well as "ubiquity only mode"
[00:18] <xnox> * on boot we get black background -> on ubuntu CDs we get plymouth logo theme
[00:18] <xnox> it's hard to tell in kvm if it is "black off", "black grub" or "black plymouth" or "black xfce"
[00:18] <xnox> it's certainly flicker free =)
[00:18] <pleia2> :)
[00:18] <xnox> but I'd preffer xubuntu logo and dont's
[00:19] <xnox> s/dont's/dots/
[00:19] <xnox> when ubiquity greeter appears (Try Xubuntu vs Install Now)
[00:19] <xnox> ubiquity actually fakes everything you see
[00:19] <pleia2> I see
[00:20] <xnox> .... and the background it fakes is the "old one" not the MasterCard & Cirrus bubbles logo as now used in Try Xubuntu
[00:21] <xnox> and there might be other bit's and bots that are missing.
[00:21] <pleia2> well, this is good progress
[00:21] <xnox> for ubuntu:ubquity fakes settings, top panel and indicators from scratch
[00:22] <xnox> yeah, these bits are minor compared with previous no-go situation.
[00:22] <xnox> BTW the slideshow is cool. I'm now considering Xubuntu..... Not fully decided yet though :P
[00:25] <pleia2> yeah, they did a nice job on the improvements this cycle
[00:27] <xnox> pleia2: haha =) I love how you distance yourself away from "them" =)
[00:27] <pleia2> I've been pretty busy these past couple weeks, I didn't even realize it had been done until I wrote the "we won't have a beta 1" post yesterday
[00:27] <pleia2> new background too, spiffy
[00:30] <xnox> did MasterCard & Cirrus pay for that new background? =))))
[00:31] <xnox> http://www.easyvectors.com/assets/images/vectors/afbig/cirrus-logo.jpg
[00:31] <xnox> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/quantal_wall/xubuntu-quantal.png
[00:31] <pleia2> hah
[00:38] <xnox> pleia2: bug 1043170 I commented on what needs doing
[00:38] <xnox> I will not fix it for you =) I want to see merge proposal from xubuntu-folks =) I want more people involved in ubiquity inner workings, especially when it comes to flavours integration.
[00:39] <pleia2> xnox: btw, we have #xubuntu-devel too which is probably the best place for this (I just realized we weren't there, oops)
[00:40] <xnox> pleia2: are you saying that "xubuntu" users are not all coders ? =)))))
[00:40] <pleia2> that would be a fascinating world
[00:41] <Unit193> Technically not really, could drop all users that aren't coders rather than have all 1K+ being coders.
[00:56] <GleasonGrails> Hey anyone around think they can help me with install on a brand new macbook?
[00:56] <GleasonGrails> I have rEFIT or whatever installed
[00:56] <GleasonGrails> but when I choose boot linux from CD I just see a cursor blinking
[01:00] <xnox> Do you have 64bit mac or 32bit mac?
[01:00] <GleasonGrails> even a link for dummies would be great
[01:00] <GleasonGrails> brand new
[01:00] <GleasonGrails> so 64
[01:00] <xnox> ah. Cool.
[01:00] <xnox> Did you get the amd64+mac image?
[01:00] <GleasonGrails> yup
[01:00] <xnox> Is that precise?
[01:01] <GleasonGrails> let me double check
[01:01] <xnox> 12.04.1?
[01:01] <GleasonGrails> yup
[01:01] <xnox> good.
[01:01] <xnox> put it in, hold C and boot. What happens?
[01:01] <GleasonGrails> There is always the possibility of a bad burn
[01:02] <xnox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro10-1/Precise
[01:02] <xnox> points to
[01:02] <xnox> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2006475
[01:02] <GleasonGrails> same thing just a cursor
[01:03] <GleasonGrails> although I can't tell if it is loading
[01:03] <xnox> hmm... it's been a while since I had a mac.
[01:03] <xnox> Good luck or try askubuntu.com
[01:04] <xnox> or #ubuntu
[01:04] <xnox> or maybe somebody here has modern macs =)
[01:04] <GleasonGrails> it isn't a retna
[01:04] <GleasonGrails> though
[01:05] <xnox> 10-1 mac is retina
[01:05] <GleasonGrails> Well maybe I said it wrong then
[01:05] <GleasonGrails> I bought the quad core one without the retna
[01:09] <xnox> oh. ok.
[01:10] <GleasonGrails> Sorry not a Mac zelot
[01:10] <GleasonGrails> just wanted a decent quad core with an Nvidia chip
[01:10] <GleasonGrails> and got better financing :-)
[01:10] <GleasonGrails> but now I want Ubuntu on it and it is making me sad I can't get it to work
[01:11] <GleasonGrails> almost as sad as no end/home button
[01:11] <GleasonGrails> :-(
[02:20] <ka3ak> anyone running xubuntu on a zenbook?
[02:23] <GridCube> nope
[02:25] <ka3ak> hmm, is anyone running on a machine with an nvidia optimus enabled card?
[02:27] <scarecrow> none here
[02:27] <GridCube> what problem do you have ka3ak
[02:28] <ka3ak> when i start xfce via startx, the desktop is messed up. it's like it's pushed up and to the left
[02:28] <ka3ak> when i bring the mouse to the top of the screen, it reappears at the bottom
[02:29] <ka3ak> so i'm hoping someone with a similar setup can tell me what kernel and nvidia drivers they are running, and let me peek at their xorg config a little bit
[02:32] <GridCube> ka3ak, why are you using startx and not lightdm?
[02:32] <GridCube> and what version of xfce are you using?
[02:32] <holstein> ka3ak: im getting an optimus
[02:34] <holstein> ka3ak: see if this is handy for you https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn
[02:35] <scarecrow> i lost my patience with windows server 2012 and broke my hard drive.... trying to install xubuntu 12.04.1 on a 16GB flash drive.   third time running setup. setup keeps crashing near the end of the install
[02:36] <GridCube> :/
[02:36] <ka3ak> 4.6.2
[02:36] <GridCube> D: 4.6?
[02:37] <GridCube> what version of xubuntu are you using? 10.04?
[02:39] <ka3ak> this is where i have to come clean, it's actually 64 bit slackware 13.37 with nvidia-current and 3.5.3 kernel
[02:39] <bazhang> #slackware
[02:40] <scarecrow> just a lil different
[02:41] <bazhang> a wee bit
[02:41] <bazhang> and this is the wrong place to ask for support of slackware
[02:41] <bazhang> ka3ak, --------> /join #slackware
[02:44] <ka3ak> since ubuntu has successfully been installed on the ux32vd, i figured i'd steal some configs, that's all
[02:44] <ka3ak> i'll try slackware
[02:44] <ka3ak> #slackware
[02:45] <scarecrow> wouldnt be the first time support for a diff OS worked
[02:46] <GridCube> sure, but he is not even using 4.8
[03:39] <scarecrow> help?
[03:39] <nyRednek> be more specific
[03:40] <holstein> scarecrow: i would check the hardware... maybe you have something creating hard drive issues... have you tested the memory?
[03:40] <scarecrow> xubuntu 12.04.1 installer crashes at the second "Installing System" section @ 50%
[03:41] <scarecrow> there is no hard drive
[03:41] <scarecrow> thus why im using xubuntu
[03:41] <holstein> scarecrow: if you are installing, you have some kind of drive
[03:41] <scarecrow> installing from 2GB flash to 16GB flash
[03:41] <holstein> that could be failing.. the downloaded iso could be bad
[03:41] <holstein> either of those flash drives could be bad
[03:42] <scarecrow> works fine when using this method with kubuntu
[03:42] <scarecrow> and debian
[03:42] <holstein> scarecrow: install kubuntu, and apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[03:42] <scarecrow> k
[03:42] <scarecrow> thanx
[03:42] <holstein> scarecrow: those are different iso's so it could be the downloaded iso that is "bad"
[04:22] <xubuntu005> ¿Alguien habla español?
[04:24] <pleia2> !es
[04:24] <xubuntu005> Gracias.
[04:45] <DeathKnight> i tried installing different themes in xubuntu precise.. but.. everything works except for the title bar. it remains that of greybird.
[04:45] <DeathKnight> any solution for this?
[04:52] <Unit193> Settings Manager > Window Manager
[04:52] <DeathKnight> Unit193, oh. thanks.
[04:52] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[04:56] <DeathKnight> also, can we add custom windows border?
[05:08] <scarecrow> okay i am at my witts end
[05:09] <scarecrow> at this point i have no idea what to do. i have tried different USBs, different disks, different distrobutions. i have even tried running the setup on a different computer that has sucessfully performed this operation before
[05:10] <bazhang> !crosspost | scarecrow
[05:10] <scarecrow> what can i do? when i click send crash report, the reporter crashes. true on all debian distros i've tried
[05:10] <bazhang> !md5 > scarecrow
[05:11] <jd2> i'm missing the volume icon in xfce 4.10
[05:11] <jd2> how can i get that back
[05:11] <bazhang> jd2, the ppa for 4.10?
[05:11] <jd2> i think i installed it from the ppa a while back
[05:11] <scarecrow> i do not understand
[05:12] <bazhang> md5 the iso scarecrow
[05:12] <bazhang> !md5 | scarecrow please read again
[05:12] <bazhang> the current xfce4 is just 4.8
[05:13] <scarecrow> no i dont understand how the md5 changed on all my USB sticks and CDs (i have tons of them laying around)
[05:13] <bazhang> so must be the ppa.
[05:13] <bazhang> scarecrow, the ISO, not the usb stick
[05:13] <scarecrow> I THINK YOU ARENT UNDERSTANDING
[05:13] <scarecrow> oops'
[05:13] <bazhang> scarecrow, lose the caps for one
[05:14] <scarecrow> i cant type without looking. need to get in the habbit of checking b4 i hit enter
[05:14] <jd2> any way of getting the volume icon back?
[05:14] <bazhang> jd2, might want to contact the PPA maintainer on that one
[05:15] <jd2> ok, thanks
[05:16] <scarecrow> i dont have a windows machine to verify the md5. i dont have a hard drive thus why i am installing to usb.
[05:16] <bazhang> what computer are you on now
[05:17] <scarecrow> i have 8 'buntu CDs, 3 DVDs, 2 debian DVDs, 4 kubuntu USB sticks, 1 lubuntu usb stick and 1 xubuntu usb stick. i have never had an issue with them b4 now
[05:17] <scarecrow> im on a liveCD
[05:18] <scarecrow> kubuntu 12.04 llive cd
[05:19] <scarecrow> not really live, nothing special about it, just a burned ISO from the site
[05:19] <bazhang> you are on a live cd, and somehow want to write an iso from the livecd to a usb stick from that?
[05:20] <scarecrow> this isnt really that complicated. i just want to install linux. i am using a USB stick as sda
[05:20] <bazhang> was that a yes?
[05:20] <scarecrow> no
[05:21] <bazhang> you have an install currently to do this from, or from the livecd environment
[05:22] <scarecrow> i want to boot from a linux disk and install linux. simple
[05:22] <bazhang> to where
[05:22] <scarecrow> to a 16GB flash drive
[05:23] <bazhang> using what tool? you have an iso to write to the usb stick? or want the livecd to install to it
[05:23] <scarecrow> i have 8 'buntu CDs, 3 DVDs, 2 debian DVDs, 4 kubuntu USB sticks, 1 lubuntu usb stick and 1 xubuntu usb stick. i have never had an issue with them b4 now
[05:24] <bazhang> scarecrow, thats not answering my question
[05:24] <scarecrow> wow okay
[05:24] <bazhang> repeating that adds no new info
[05:26] <scarecrow> i dont understand why you are making this sound so difficult. to install linux you boot from either a CD, a DVD, or a usb stick, i have all three of those already made ready to go. they work i use them often.   I want to boot from any one of these (i dont care which one) and install linux. i do not have a hard drive so i wiill be installing onto a 16GB USB drive
[05:26] <bazhang> a flash stick?
[05:26] <scarecrow> 16GB flash stick
[05:26] <bazhang> from what, using what tool
[05:27] <scarecrow> wow
[05:27] <bazhang> whats the error you are getting, exactly
[05:28] <scarecrow> i burned the CDs using nero. i made the USB flash drives using Linux Live USB Creator (and 1 with Universal USB Creator). i will be installing onto a blank 16GB flash drive.
[05:28] <scarecrow> im not getting an error in particular. it just says "The installer has crashed"
[05:28] <bazhang> so you said. so whats the error/issue
[05:29] <bazhang> so the "burn" failed
[05:29] <scarecrow> wow
[05:29] <bazhang> the installer crashing is an error
[05:29] <scarecrow> is there any one else? you dont seem to understand
[05:30] <bazhang> so there are two possible reasons for this: corrupt iso, or bad "burn"
[05:31] <scarecrow> i have already booted the computer with the installation source (this momemt it is a 12.04 kubuntu DVD)   the computer is booted. i start the installation processes, i get through copying files, i usually get through installing the language packs, then the installer crashes
[05:33] <scarecrow> get your head around the fact that i have A LOT of linux disks i have made over the years, this is not an MD5 issue. these disks work. these USB flash drives that have live linux distros on them work. i use them often. the ISO is not the issue. these ISOs date bake as far as Mandrake 7.10
[05:34] <scarecrow> moving on. how do i find out what crashed beyound just the generic "Installer has crashed" error message?
[05:35] <scarecrow> keep in mind i am already booted into a linux enviornment and i have the crash screen up right now
[05:39] <scarecrow> seriously? thats it? thats the only answer? "Oh if linux wont install it's the MD5"     BS!!!!!!
[05:41] <scarecrow> how about this?   i have another laptop that is sucessfully running from USB (8GB) can i copy the contents then just install grub?
[05:41] <scarecrow> or does that not compute?
[05:43] <scarecrow> or did i just get lucky and it's not really possible to install and run linux from USB?
[07:49] <dniwe_ebanoe> и тишина
[07:49] <Unit193> !ru | dniwe_ebanoe
[07:49] <dniwe_ebanoe> =\
[07:50] <Unit193> I don't know Russian.
[07:50] <dniwe_ebanoe> bad
[07:51] <dniwe_ebanoe> i dont know english
[07:52] <Unit193> You should join #ubuntu-ru as the bot said (They know Russian)
[07:52] <dniwe_ebanoe> thnx, but i dont have a questions ;)
[07:53] <dniwe_ebanoe> now installing xubuntu
[08:59] <sajan> Anybody else having issues with Firefox and Chromium crashing on Google Plus?  The minute I hit enter after typing http://plus.google.com...the browser crashes.  Both of them.
[09:01] <Unit193> I have it pinned as an app...tab.
[09:16] <Unit193> sajan: Ah, you came back.  I have G+ pinned as an "AppTab" in firefox 17 (and did in older versions) without crashing.
[09:17] <sajan> Unit193: Yeah, restarted.  Things are fine now and it opens up now and I've been in a hangout for some time now.  No idea what was causing it.
[09:18] <zombii> 17?
[09:19] <zombii> firefox took forever to reach 1.0. now it seems theres a new version every week
[09:20] <Unit193> zombii: While I agree that it is excessive, I'm two "versions" up from normal release.
[09:20] <Unit193> Called Aurora.
[09:57] <apm1> i am currently running virtualbox on xubuntu(host) and want to install xubuntu as a guest os too, but i have one question :)
[09:58] <apm1> do i have to install the proprietary drivers for my gpu in the virtual machine too?
[09:59] <apm1> i  have already installed the drivers on the host os
[10:00] <tsimpson> the VM doesn't have direct access to your hardware, but rather virtual hardware. so you shouldn't need to install any proprietary drivers
[10:01] <apm1> tsimpson, but i will be able to use my gpu properly to play some lite games?
[10:02] <tsimpson> I think vbox has the option to use graphics acceleration, so just make sure that box is checked in the VMs settings
[10:02] <apm1> ^i am actually installing wine in the VM and with wine gta3 .
[10:03] <tsimpson> ugg, wine is a different story all together, good luck ;)
[10:03] <apm1> tsimpson, but virtualbox detects 2d accelration as a non optimal setting , so what about that ?
[10:04] <tsimpson> testing, see what the performance is like without and see what it's like with
[10:05] <Unit193> tsimpson: Jockey typically pulls up guest additions, actually.
[10:05] <apm1> tsimpson, the manual for virtual box says it supports 3d accelration for linux but not 2d , wtf is with that
[10:05] <tsimpson> Unit193: guess addition is not proprietary afaik ;)
[10:05] <apm1> jockey ?
[10:06] <tsimpson> apm1: #vbox would know more than I
[10:06] <apm1> there is a channell for vbox ?
[10:06] <apm1> damn i am old
[10:06] <Unit193> In repo, not proprietary.
[10:07] <apm1> Unit193, what ?
[10:07] <Unit193> Ignore that.  Yes there is a channel for vitualbox, #vbox as tsimpson said, though it is early morning for some folk.
[10:08] <apm1> tsimpson, what is jockey ?
[10:08] <tsimpson> jockey is the software that detects what drivers your hardware needs and grabs it for you
[10:10] <apm1> tsimpson, ok thanks
[10:28] <apm1> tsimpson, so according to you i must install jockey in the guest os and then run it and it will install all the necessary drivers :)
[10:30] <tsimpson> jockey should already be installed, though it may be the text-only version jockey-text
[10:31] <apm1> so i just type jockey in the terminal and it will do all the stuff on it's own ?
[11:41] <Mathias> the moving of the hdd worked :P
[11:41] <mips1911> ?
[11:43] <Mathias> just informing you ;P (i asked a question about it a couple of days ago)
[12:11] <SKoNT> Salut
[13:04] <apm1> i just used xubuntu software center but could not completely download a package(lost wifi connectivity) , so what should i do about it ? if i don't wanna reinstall it , will the partial package which i downloaded will it be a problem for "apt tools " ?
[13:04] <apm1> ^should i delete the package from the "apt cache " ?
[13:19] <apm1> did people here have sworn to never answer noob questions :D
[13:38] <pAt__> apm1, :D
[13:38] <pAt__> the question is quite good even
[13:38] <pAt__> normally it shouldn't be a problem. If you want to go sure, you can do the following in the terminal:
[13:38] <apm1> pAt__, but yet no one has answerd ?
[13:39] <apm1> ^except you
[13:39] <pAt__> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install yourpackage
[13:39] <pAt__> ^^
[13:39] <pAt__> not everybody is sitting in front of the computer and waiting for questions ;)
[13:40] <apm1> ^i know about apt tools and their usage commands but did not know how much abstraction does ubuntu software center provide or does it have the potential to screw up the whole apt infrastructure ;)
[13:42] <pAt__> I am not sure what the software center is doing in the background either, but I expect that it just uses apt-get in a normal way. Everything else would be a surprise for me :D
[13:43] <apm1> pAt__, that means you and i both intend to ask the same question let's wait or google until we find the answer :D
[13:44] <pAt__> I am not really looking for an answer :D
[13:44] <pAt__> cause I do not use the software center very often except for stuff to buy
[13:44] <pAt__> otherwise I use Synaptic or apt-get
[13:44] <apm1> pAt__, same here
[13:44] <pAt__> but yes, if somebody has an answer on that, I would also read it :D
[13:45] <apm1> i hope the paid apps are freesoftware ( i think they are ) :)
[13:45] <apm1> ^free as in freedom :D
[13:46] <pAt__> hmm, I think that depends on the app itself
[13:47] <pAt__> there are also closed source apps included
[13:47] <pAt__> like pdf studio i.e.
[13:47] <apm1> really closed source , man that i didn't expect from canonical :(
[13:51] <pAt__> If you are using the flash plugin, you are used to closed source software apm1 ;)
[13:52] <apm1> i am not using flash :)
[13:52] <pAt__> wow, ok :)
[13:52] <apm1> but i am using proprietary drivers :(
[13:52] <pAt__> that would have been my next question ;)
[13:53] <apm1> ^ a necessary evil :(
[13:53] <pAt__> it is hard to just use open source software
[13:53] <pAt__> I use it mostly, and that's ok for me.
[13:53] <pAt__> But maybe we should switch to #xubuntu-offtopic ;)
[14:12] <NeuhNeuh> Hi !
[14:12] <NeuhNeuh> I want to enable compiz with Xubuntu (XFCE). But responses offers by Google and Doc ubuntu don't work :/
[14:15] <apm1> NeuhNeuh, the compiz cube ?
[14:15] <NeuhNeuh> apm1, Compiz
[14:15] <NeuhNeuh> Compiz Cube ?
[14:16] <apm1> what do you need compiz for ?
[14:16] <NeuhNeuh> apm1, For effects :x
[14:16] <apm1> NeuhNeuh, god help you with compiz that is some horrific business on xfce :D
[14:17] <NeuhNeuh> x)
[14:17] <apm1> when i tried compiz i lost my xserver , was left on console and had to startX :(
[14:18] <apm1> NeuhNeuh, what effect you are aiming for ?
[14:19] <NeuhNeuh> apm1, Rain effect
[14:19] <NeuhNeuh> apm1, Cube
[14:19] <NeuhNeuh> apm1, And darking backgrounds Windows
[14:19] <NeuhNeuh> *dark
[14:20] <apm1> NeuhNeuh, good luck but remember it's a suicide mission ;)
[14:20] <NeuhNeuh> x)
[14:27] <NeuhNeuh> Yeah
[14:27] <NeuhNeuh> apm1, Compiz work :')
[14:27] <NeuhNeuh> :')
[14:27]  * NeuhNeuh is better, NeuhNeuh  is god, NeuhNeuh  roxx
[14:29] <NeuhNeuh> Now I must edit config for launch compiz at startup :')
[14:46] <CrisBee> Hi folks, I installed xubuntu 12.04 a few days ago and it seems firefox and every other browser is waaaay too slow. Is that a known issue?
[14:46] <v1adimir> 12.04, or 12.04.1 ?
[14:46] <v1adimir> there are some (video) fixes in .1
[14:46] <CrisBee> Oh...I am not sure, I will try to figure it out.
[14:47] <CrisBee> Can I figure it out in terminal?
[14:47] <v1adimir> lsb_release -a
[14:47] <apm1> do you have the iso file you installed from ?
[14:48] <CrisBee> It is .1 version
[14:48] <v1adimir> hm
[14:48] <v1adimir> got no problems here with FF 15.0
[14:48] <Mathias> no problems with ff here too :P
[14:48] <Mathias> CrisBee: might be your connection
[14:49] <apm1> no problems here as well
[14:49] <CrisBee> It can't be my internet connection. Everything else is fine, too. Only webbrowsing problems. I have deactived several plugins in firefox
[14:49] <CrisBee> Still slow.
[14:49] <Mathias> full buffer then?
[14:49] <n2diy> how do I save my session when I log out. Since I upgraded to 12.04 that doesn't happen anymore?
[14:49] <apm1> CrisBee, have you tried chromium  ?
[14:49] <CrisBee> I tried chromium and opera as well. They are slow too.
[14:49] <v1adimir> CrisBee: try disabling Blueman Applet from startup if you're not using it
[14:50] <v1adimir> (not 100% sure that it's related)
[14:50] <CrisBee> I am not sure but I guess it is disabled. Wait, I will see.
[14:50] <v1adimir> but it's what gave me grief
[14:50] <apm1> yeah blueman crashed on me in the live session as well
[14:50] <CrisBee> Blueman is already disabled
[14:51] <apm1> in my case i had problems with jockey on 12.0.4.1
[14:51] <v1adimir> CrisBee: but did you logout- then reboot after disabling it
[14:51] <CrisBee> Off course
[14:52] <v1adimir> :)
[14:52] <CrisBee> Hm...maybe it has something to do with flash or something else. Problems are when I visit facebook, deviantart or youtube.
[14:53] <v1adimir> CrisBee: but it shouldn't be in chrome/chromium since it uses 'internal' flash
[14:53] <Mathias> CrisBee: javascript?
[14:53] <Mathias> that fucks up slow comps
[14:53] <bazhang> Mathias, no cursing here
[14:53] <CrisBee> With my old distribution I had no problems. tried ubuntu 12.04 with lxde before and even with gnome
[14:53] <Mathias> ok, *bleep*'s slow comps
[14:54] <CrisBee> :D
[14:54] <CrisBee> Athlon 64 x2 6000, 2 gig of RAM. that is not THAT slow to be honest
[14:54] <v1adimir> CrisBee: have you tried pinging / whatever servers, to check whether it's your internet
[14:55] <v1adimir> sry connection/network i mean
[14:55] <CrisBee> I did, but to be honest I don't know what the results mean. I will ping google, wait a second
[14:55] <v1adimir> not sure what's the best way to check the adapter setup
[14:55] <CrisBee> --- www.google.com ping statistics ---
[14:55] <CrisBee> 6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5008ms
[14:55] <CrisBee> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 34.452/35.130/35.682/0.483 ms
[14:56] <Mathias> try downloading something over http
[14:56] <v1adimir> downloading won't matter for udp or whatever may be slowing it
[14:56] <Mathias> v1adimir: just checking if it's the connection (or something limiting http)
[14:57] <CrisBee> I am more than sure that it is not my connection
[14:57] <Mathias> if it isn't then it must be something on the comp
[14:57] <CrisBee> I used it before I setup xubuntu and it was good, after setup it was bad.
[14:57] <v1adimir> yea, yea, i didn't mean you connection - but the setup/config
[14:57] <Mathias> sounds weird
[14:57] <CrisBee> Ah okay, sorry.
[14:57] <v1adimir> i typed it all wrong anyway :s
[14:58] <CrisBee> I have the feeling my RAM is full by some time. tried free -o and it doesn't look that good I think.
[14:58] <CrisBee>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[14:58] <CrisBee> Mem:       2061440     753448    1307992          0      53932     489984
[14:58] <CrisBee> Swap:      3998716          0    3998716
[14:58] <v1adimir> swap used 0 so yo're prolly ok there
[14:58] <CrisBee> :D
[14:58] <Mathias> try free -m
[14:59] <Mathias> shows what the buffer is using :P
[14:59] <CrisBee>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[14:59] <CrisBee> Mem:          2013        735       1277          0         52        478
[14:59] <CrisBee> -/+ buffers/cache:        204       1808
[14:59] <CrisBee> Swap:         3904          0       3904
[14:59] <Mathias> loads of free ram :P
[14:59] <CrisBee> hm... :D okay then
[15:01] <CrisBee> *sigh* Then I dunno what I could do. Would love to stay with xubuntu.
[15:02] <v1adimir> someone will know :)
[15:02] <v1adimir> s/will/may
[15:03] <CrisBee> Thanks anyway so far! :)
[15:03] <Mathias> someone should know :P
[15:03] <Mathias> if you haven't used it so much, try a reinstallation
[15:04] <CrisBee> Hm, I can try it. But I am not sure if this will solve it. I mean, it is the standard installation from ISO
[15:04] <CrisBee> Oh my...hope my english is okay. It is not my native language! :D
[15:07] <v1adimir> did you do sudo ufw enable?.. maybe someone is ddosing you ;p
[15:08] <v1adimir> sudo ufw disable if it goes horribly wrong
[15:08] <CrisBee> :D I can't remember I did that XD Why should I?^^
[15:08] <v1adimir> it's just the firewall layer, to block incoming
[15:09] <Mathias> "man ufw"
[15:09] <v1adimir> (default config)
[15:09] <CrisBee> How can I check if it is enabled?
[15:09] <v1adimir> sudo ufw status verbose if i got it right
[15:10] <Mathias> it also works without verbose
[15:10] <CrisBee> inactive it says
[15:10] <Mathias> just spits out "Status: inactive"
[15:10] <CrisBee> So I guess that is good, right? :D
[15:10] <v1adimir> you can stick it on if you're not using routing, like for torrents or whatever
[15:11] <CrisBee> I feel like a bad noob atm XD
[15:11] <v1adimir> 'ufw' from software center has 'Firewall Configuration' that can add default rules for Transmission automatically
[15:11] <CrisBee> The sad thing is I am using Linux since 6 years now
[15:12] <v1adimir> but i doubt it'll fix anything :)
[15:16] <CrisBee> I used 'top' while firefox is running. Doesn't look strange to me:
[15:16] <CrisBee> 2040 christop  20   0  464m 132m  30m S    1  6.6   0:59.64 firefox
[15:19] <CrisBee> Oh man...I won't care for it anymore today. I'll just have a beer now and wait for my friends to arrive :D Thank you for your help.
[15:20] <v1adimir> try again later if you like =)
[15:21] <Mathias> CrisBee: try idling here so people can respond if they know what the answer is
[15:21] <v1adimir> ^
[15:22] <CrisBee> Don't laugh at me, but how do I do it? :D
[15:22] <CrisBee> oops :D
[15:22] <Mathias> don't close the xchat :P
[15:22] <CrisBee> :D :D :D
[15:23] <holstein> CrisBee: how about the connection? do you have another option? try wired if you are on wireless
[15:23] <CrisBee> I am wired
[15:23] <CrisBee> I hate wireless XD
[15:24] <CrisBee> But I recognized a strange thing here. The network symbol in my tray is the wireless one
[15:24] <CrisBee> :D
[15:24] <Mathias> o_O
[15:24] <holstein> CrisBee: you can hate it the wireless connection while you try it for troubleshooting purposes
[15:24] <CrisBee> Can't try wireless now
[15:24] <Mathias> try unchecking "enable wireless" in the network manager/menu thing
[15:25] <holstein> CrisBee: im just trying to take whatever driver you are currently using with whatever device out of the equation
[15:27] <CrisBee> ethernet, driver: forcedeth, 100 Mb/s
[15:28] <holstein> CrisBee: i would try and take things out of the equation, and see what the issue is... even just a simple speed test
[15:29] <holstein> http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/bwmon
[15:29] <CrisBee> The thing is, I am sure it isn't hardware related. As said, I used Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome, later LXDE and everthing was fine. A few hours later with xubuntu 12.04 it isn't working fine anymore.
[15:30] <v1adimir> holstein: nice link....
[15:30] <CrisBee> I will give bwmon a try, thank you :)
[15:30] <holstein> CrisBee: boot into LXDE and confirm.. it could also be just a momentary issue with your connection
[15:31] <CrisBee> I checked bandwith online with a speedtest and for me the test was okay. DSL 6000
[15:31] <holstein> CrisBee: so, whats the issue?
[15:31] <holstein> v1adimir: :)
[15:31] <CrisBee> That webbrowsing is still slow on facebook, youtube and deviantart. Those are the sites I use the most. Other websites are mostly fine
[15:32] <Mathias> CrisBee: try disabling javascript
[15:32] <holstein> CrisBee: thos are "slow" for me as well. could be flash, or ads, or like Mathias is suggesting.. i wouldnt base anything on those specific sites...
[15:32] <Mathias> edit > preferences > content > enable javascript (uncheck it)
[15:33] <holstein> could be graphics card driver
[15:33] <CrisBee> Hm...graphic card driver, that is worth a try
[15:35] <CrisBee> Boom! Maybe that is it, I haven't installed the recommended driver for my graphic card!
[15:35] <holstein> CrisBee: that can help in my experience.. it can also make it worse
[15:35] <CrisBee> I will do it now and give feedback when it is done
[15:35] <holstein> CrisBee: feedback? to youtube? and deviant art?
[15:35] <v1adimir> ^ hehe ;p
[15:36] <CrisBee> In past I always used the correct driver, for some reason I forgot to do so now
[15:36] <v1adimir> CrisBee: nvidia?
[15:36] <holstein> the "correct" driver might not exist for your hardware
[15:36] <CrisBee> yes
[15:36] <v1adimir> so it could be hardware acceleration, yea
[15:36] <v1adimir> if the default ain't doing it, there's the xswat ppa
[15:37] <holstein> you can also give feedback to the hardware vendor
[15:37] <NeuhNeuh> Hi again :)
[15:37] <v1adimir> wb :p
[15:38] <NeuhNeuh> How run automaticaly a sh script after displaying desktop of XFCE ?
[15:38] <NeuhNeuh> Sorry if my English is not very good ^^'
[15:38] <CrisBee> I will restart my computer now, I'll be back soon! :D Thanks
[15:38] <v1adimir> gl
[15:39] <holstein> NeuhNeuh: i would try this http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2011/12/add-application-to-xfcexubuntu-session.html
[15:39] <NeuhNeuh> holstein, But my script for replace xfwm4 by compiz don't work :/
[15:39] <v1adimir> https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+run+script+on+boot
[15:39] <NeuhNeuh> No on boot
[15:40] <NeuhNeuh> After loading XFCE
[15:40] <holstein> NeuhNeuh: i would refer to this...
[15:40] <CrisBee> Weeeheee :D
[15:40] <CrisBee> MUUUUCH better now, thanks thanks thanks!
[15:40] <v1adimir> CrisBee: working? o.0
[15:40] <NeuhNeuh> holstein, But my script don't work with this :(
[15:40] <CrisBee> yes! :D
[15:40] <v1adimir> nice, nice
[15:40] <NeuhNeuh> I try again with a sleep
[15:40] <v1adimir> :D
[15:40] <CrisBee> I can't believe I forgot to use the recommended driver
[15:41] <holstein> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ this bascially worked for me NeuhNeuh
[15:41] <v1adimir> heh :)
[15:41] <CrisBee> I am so glad now, you made my day guys (and lads)!
[15:42] <CrisBee> vladimir, mathias, holstein... *hug* XD
[15:42] <holstein> CrisBee: enjoy!
[15:43] <NeuhNeuh> Ok
[15:44] <holstein> NeuhNeuh: i would test it manually.. make sure its all working, and your graphics card is supporting it... then i would test the startup script...
[15:44] <NeuhNeuh> holstein, Compiz ils run but only manually :(
[15:45] <NeuhNeuh> I try my Script
[15:45] <holstein> NeuhNeuh: then, you'll have no trouble seeing how to add compiz --replace to startup from that guide i linked
[15:45] <CrisBee> I am offline now, thank you again. I will have a beer for everyone of you guys! :) Have a nice day!
[15:45] <CrisBee> See you! :)
[15:45] <v1adimir> u2, tc
[15:46] <holstein> there are 2 options mentioned there NeuhNeuh and i did the first one, the "easy" one.. that worked in xubuntu 12.04 for me
[15:47] <NeuhNeuh> Ok
[15:47] <NeuhNeuh> I try to relog my session
[15:48] <NeuhNeuh> Hi again
[15:49] <NeuhNeuh> holstein, My script don't want to run correctly :(
[15:49] <NeuhNeuh> I try to put a sleep before script
[15:50] <NeuhNeuh> Ok good
[15:51] <NeuhNeuh> But simulation of keystroke don't work http://pastebin.com/0RL6hPEm
[15:51] <NeuhNeuh> work only if I run script now
[15:52] <holstein> NeuhNeuh: i would add compiz --replace to startup.. get that working on its own, then move on to whatever else you are trying to accomplish
[15:53] <NeuhNeuh> holstein, compiz--replace on this script work
[15:53] <NeuhNeuh> holstein, But after, I want to enable effects (rain and dark windows) by simulation of keystroke (xte)
[15:53] <NeuhNeuh> But this keystroke was don't send while loading session :/ He work only if I run the script after. But compiz ils launched
[15:53] <NeuhNeuh> Compiz is not problem now :/
[15:53] <holstein> NeuhNeuh: i would do those seperately.. i have not tried that, but that is likely what is/was causing the script to fail
[15:54] <NeuhNeuh> Ok
[15:56] <NeuhNeuh> Ok I restart session x)
[17:09] <lighta> hi hey how can I change my PERL5LIB var ?
[17:39] <David-A> lighta: set it (and export it) in ~/.profile (is it already set by default at yours? not at mine)
[17:40] <lighta> thx David
[17:40] <lighta> I found out finally
[17:41] <lighta> export PERL5LIB=$PERL5LIB:/<my lib path>
[17:42] <David-A> lighta: that will work in xubuntu and most systems, but .profile is meant to be used by both sh and bash, so "export" should be a separate command
[17:45] <lighta> ok but I did try that actually first, I put in /etc/profile (I wanted the link for all user). I just added PERL5LIB=<my path>
[17:45] <lighta> and when I tryed to reload there was an error
[17:48] <David-A> lighta: that way <my path> is first in @INC, could it be that something in <my path> overrides some standard lib?
[17:49] <David-A> lighta: by "export" i mean "PERL5LIB=$PERL5LIB:/<my path>; export PERL5LIB"
[17:50] <lighta> hmm not sure about that but I think it append instead override
[17:51] <lighta> like if module not found go in user defined lib
[17:51] <lighta> at least that how I wanted to be
[17:52] <lighta>   @INC:    /usr/share/perl/custom-lib/    /etc/perl    /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2    /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2    /usr/lib/perl5    /usr/share/perl5    /usr/lib/perl/5.14    /usr/share/perl/5.14    /usr/local/lib/site_perl
[18:54] <nyRednek> anyone here use bitlbee? i'm trying to get it running on 12.04, but the guide i found was for fiesty, and the info no longer applies
[18:59] <livingdaylight> interesting: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Aug-29.html
[19:00] <TheSheep> nah
[19:00] <TheSheep> also, that's for #xubuntu-offtopic
[19:01] <livingdaylight> nah?
[19:01] <livingdaylight> The efforts to standardize on a kernel and a set of core libraries were undermined by the Distro of the Day that held the position of power. If you are the top dog, you did not want to make any concessions that would help other distributions catch up with you. Being incompatible became a way of gaining market share. A strategy that continues to be employed by the 800 pound gorillas in the Linux world. To sum u
[19:01] <livingdaylight> p: (a) First dimension: things change too quickly, breaking both open source and proprietary software alike; (b) incompatibility across Linux distributions.
[19:01] <TheSheep> livingdaylight: you want to discuss it, join #xubuntu-offtopic
[19:01] <TheSheep> livingdaylight: and pleae don't paste large amounts of text here
[19:01] <TheSheep> this is a help channel
[19:02] <livingdaylight> its hardly busy here on a Saturday evening, but, ok
[19:03] <madhu641> Hello World!
[19:05] <madhu641> Am a newbie to Xubuntu (from windows world) trying out on a oldish laptop. All good except my usb network adapter doesn't work after few minutes. Any suggestions what could be the issue?
[19:21] <xubuntu665> salve a tutti ho un prolema con la tastiera non mi scrive alcune lettere
[19:23] <TheSheep> madhu641: you could try searching the forums for the make and model of your adapter
[19:25] <madhu641> The Sheep Thanks
[19:30] <learc83> I have a tablet with an Atmel touchscreen controller, it works in 12.10, but not in 12.04, however 12.10 alpha is ultra buggy on my hardware, do you think it will work if I install 12.04 and upgrade the kernel?
[19:54] <pAt_> learc83, no idea, but 12.10 is already beta now
[20:11] <PhantorGorth> I am having a peculiar issue. When I try to open my "File Manager" which is launched via the command "exo-open --launch FileManager %u" or open files in the download list of Firefox I get the package installer opening and then either does nothing in case of the file manager, or throws an error say that the download file isn't a package.
[20:11] <PhantorGorth> I haven't tried to see what happens if the download file is a .deb file. I assume that works.
[20:15] <PhantorGorth> any ideas what to do about this?
[20:21] <PAPABEAR1976> hi
[20:22] <David-A> hi
[20:23] <PAPABEAR1976> any one now how fix a scren missconf?
[20:24] <David-A> can you be more specific?
[20:25] <PAPABEAR1976> i just buy a new web cam and now im in 800x600 :(
[20:27] <PAPABEAR1976> i try every posible comand line ... i even reinstall all the sistem...
[20:28] <drc> PAPABEAR1976: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[20:29] <PAPABEAR1976> :) tnks... ill see that now ... :)))
[23:47] <yshi> can you boot to a pcie ssd?
[23:48] <aicasn> can you disable portmapper (thereby closing port 111) without disabling samba/cifs?
[23:48] <yshi> ive gone as far as to unplug all other drives and once i finish installing and reboot i get "error: unknown filesystem