[02:10] <cowsquad> should I tried ubuntu quetzal? Any thoughts guys?
[02:12] <cowsquad> anybody in here?
[03:48] <DracoDan> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/targetcli
[03:48] <DracoDan> that page says the latest version is Latest version: 	2.0rc1-2
[03:48] <DracoDan> I have 2.0rc1, there's a difference between the two, right?
[03:48] <DracoDan> how can I get the latest?
[03:48] <DracoDan> I'm really sorry if that seems like a silly question
[03:59] <TJ-> "2.0rc1" is the upstream version. Everything after the "-" is the Debian and Ubuntu version: -<deb-ver>[ubuntu<ubuntu-ver>] e.g. -3ubuntu2
[03:59] <cortexA9> hello
[04:11] <cortexA9> anyone tried daily iso ?
[05:07] <cortexA9> hello
[05:08] <cortexA9> daily iso not work for me :(
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, IN what ways?
[05:10] <cortexA9> wilee-nilee: kubuntu. ubiquity seems stop at timezone.
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, YOU have checked the download with a md5sum?
[05:11] <cortexA9> no but i am sure that the iso is good
[05:11] <cortexA9> yesterday i have this problem too
[05:12] <cortexA9> with the daily of 7 september
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> it is a development daily, you could just wait another day I have no other help really
[05:13] <cortexA9> ok thanks :) no prob
[08:39] <saxin> How stable is the Ubuntu 12.10 release atm? I read it had just into beta. But what is your personal experience with it?
[09:09] <jokerdino> if anyone is on gnome or unity, can try editing the name of your useraccount? Settings > User accounts > unlock and edit the name.
[09:09] <jokerdino> does it crash for you if you do that?
[09:23] <ironhalik> Ok - I've got a pretty urgent question
[09:23] <ironhalik> every time I reboot my PC and open Chrome, I get ubuntu notification that my Google account login failed
[09:24] <ironhalik> and chrome opens a page with 'www.mardy.it' domain, some callback code in URL and "Authentication completed.
[09:24] <ironhalik> Please close this window."
[09:24] <ironhalik> message
[09:38] <dubaco> hi where can i get the latest iso from?
[09:39] <ironhalik> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[09:40] <dubaco> tack
[10:34] <NimeshNeema> what's the scheduled release date for 12.10 ?
[10:40] <phibxr> October 18th.
[10:40] <phibxr> NimeshNeema: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[10:40] <NimeshNeema> thanks phibxr
[10:47] <md_5> o.O its Amaranth
[10:47]  * md_5 runs
[10:47] <Amaranth> md_5: I'm an op here :P
[10:47] <md_5> Amaranth I know that
[10:47] <md_5> but I'm made a note of your appearance since you dont normally idle in #ubuntu
[10:47] <md_5> * I made
[10:48] <Amaranth> This isn't #ubuntu
[10:48] <md_5> All the same never really seen you in a #ubuntu*
[10:48] <jokerdino> poke
[10:48] <md_5> :( Ubuntu loco meeting was a bit flat
[10:49] <jokerdino> anything broke yet?
[10:49] <md_5> Only 3 in attendance
[10:56] <s9iper1> how can i get upgrade to 12.04 to 12.10 ??
[10:57] <s9iper1> i mean from 12.04 to 12.10
[10:57] <s9iper1> :D
[11:06] <md_5> he left
[11:06] <md_5> :(
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:03] <dmatt> after update 10.04-.10beta1, no graphics, I had to switch with jockey-text to open source driver, now jockey does not want to let me use fglrx again
[12:04] <dmatt> Erro is SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:04] <dmatt> error
[12:06] <dmatt> any idea what might be problem? I was not able to google succesful resolution to this
[12:08] <jtaylor> do apt-get install -f
[12:09] <dmatt> jtaylor: it does not help, i did it already also dpkg reconfigure, deleted fglrx* stuff from /var/cache/apt/archive
[12:09] <jtaylor> what are the broken packages?
[12:10] <dmatt> jtaylor: no broken packages, jockey is the only one complaining about any brokeness
[12:11] <jtaylor> install it without jockey then
[12:11] <jtaylor> is jockey even still supposed to be used? I heard it was going to be removed
[12:14] <dmatt> well, I do not know, what should be done to install fglrx manually
[12:14] <jtaylor> in the past simply installing fglrx worked for me
[12:14] <jtaylor> software-properties now handles additional drivers
[12:14] <jtaylor> you can try that
[12:15] <dmatt> ok, I got some real error message for the first time, I translate to english
[12:16] <dmatt> fglrx: depends on xorg-video-abi-12 but could not be installed
[12:16] <dmatt> problems could not be solved, some packages are broken
[12:17] <jtaylor> that probably means the driver can't work yet
[12:18] <jtaylor> it needs an update from amd for the new xserve
[12:20] <dmatt> well, in that case i would expect drivers would not show in jockey
[12:20] <jtaylor> jockey is not intended to work with beta releases
[12:21] <jtaylor> its a helper for the final releases where the packages will always work
[12:22] <dmatt> well radeon looks rather buggy also, I suspect som misconfiguration of my system
[12:26] <dmatt> beta releases are for testing, i suppose jockey needs testing as well, so it should be enabled in betas as well
[12:27] <dmatt> but i do not want to complain, I just want to verify that new fglrx was not released yet
[12:29] <jtaylor> yes the situation is not ideal, there should be better error messages
[12:29] <jtaylor> we had the same mess with nvidia until a about a week ago
[12:31] <dmatt> hm I just checked the packages and there is not new version of fglrx available since precise, only minor bumps in ubuntu versioning
[12:31] <dmatt> jtaylor: thanks for help
[12:31] <jtaylor> it all depends on amd
[12:32] <penguin42> jtaylor: I read something in the +1 release notes about jockey being deprecated - is that the command line tools as well?
[12:32] <jtaylor> don't know
[12:32] <dmatt> jockey-text
[12:32] <jtaylor> but jockey-gtk definitely is deprecated
[12:33] <dmatt> i didn't know either, but thats what i used yesterday after upgrade to beta - X didn't at all
[12:33] <dmatt> mine is jockey-kde :)
[12:40] <dmatt> well AMD released new versions in the meantime, but nothing for Quantal it seems
[12:40] <penguin42> dmatt: They'll probably do it, these things normally happen at the end of the cycle
[12:42] <dmatt> penguin42: I know, I'vbeen on AMD for few years alreday
[12:44] <dmatt> I am more surprised that radeon gives me lot of line artifacts when I manipulate with windows or menus, used to be ok in previous versions
[12:44] <penguin42> hmm what do you mean by line artifacts?
[12:46] <dmatt> when i move in menu, if something highlight, there are black lines at the edges which remain even after I move to other item
[12:46] <penguin42> dmatt: Hmm - don't get that, I'm running KDE on the Radeon drivers
[12:47] <penguin42> hd4350
[12:48] <dmatt> RV620 [Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series]
[12:49] <penguin42> nod, this is RV710
[12:52] <dmatt> i'll try to boot to live environment to verify it, still unsure if upgrade didn't cause this
[13:27] <ripps> Is it just me, or are fonts being rendered weird now. It's like they've changed the hinting so that they seem a little thinner and a little more blurry (at least to my eyes)
[14:14] <phoenix_firebrd> is kde 4.9.1 available in 12.10?
[14:16] <Daekdroom> !info kde
[14:16] <Daekdroom> !info kde-base
[14:16] <penguin42> phoenix_firebrd: Still 4.9.0
[14:16] <phoenix_firebrd> penguin42: eta?
[14:17] <penguin42> phoenix_firebrd: Don't know
[14:17] <phoenix_firebrd> penguin42: ty
[14:18] <pietro10> ok that didn't fix it
[14:19] <pietro10> After upgrading to Kubuntu 12.04 beta, Firefox doesn't show some fonts properly (Verdana doesn't get loaded when asked for; sometimes, ttl-vlgothic doesn't get loaded when japanese text is displayed). How can I fix this? blue-shell firefox odesn't fix it. Thanks.
[14:19] <penguin42> do you mean 12.04 or 12.10?
[14:22] <pietro10> yes 12.10 sorry
[14:23] <BluesKaj> pietro10, I gave you the url , that provides kde support for firefox , that should fix your problem
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> when can we expect an alpha of wayland in ubuntu/kubuntu?
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> 13.10?
[14:23] <pietro10> BluesKaj: it doesn't
[14:24] <pietro10> [10:19] <pietro10> blue-shell firefox odesn't fix it. Thanks.
[14:24] <pietro10> and in fact how do I undo the UI changes it made? reoving the package didn't fix that :|
[14:27] <Belial`> BluesKaj, i read there's a ppa from blue systems that provides better kde integration for firefox, but it looked like it was for 12.04...
[14:27] <Belial`> is there one for 12.10 or does the same ppa work?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Belial`, scroll down the page to the OS version dropdown choice
[14:30] <BluesKaj> https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde
[14:31] <BluesKaj> maybe reinstalling FF after installing ff kde support will work for pietro10
[14:33] <pietro10> eh
[14:33] <pietro10> later then
[14:34] <pietro10> though I do prefer whatever font was in the URL bar before over the ubuntu font
[14:34] <pietro10> ...wait it was the ubuntu font
[14:34] <pietro10> why is it so widely spaced out now
[14:49] <BluesKaj> it should follow the system settings > application appearance font settings , unless otherwise set in FFpreferences i
[15:29] <enrico_> speak italian
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !it | enrico_
[15:32] <greenit> hi, i just installed 12.10 on my notebook, but i can't scroll with the touchpad... can any1 tell me what i have to do to get scrolling with my touchpad working again? worked with k/ubuntu 12.04... i have enabled the option in the "mouse and touchpad" system point
[15:33] <enrico_> I wanted to upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 I have to give that command, I now have version  12.04
[15:34] <BluesKaj> enrico_, sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:35] <penguin42> BluesKaj: That won't do it from 12.04 unless you've enabled non-lts I think
[15:36] <enrico_> I have already 'tried that command but does not work
[15:36] <BluesKaj> penguin42, good point , is LTS only enabled by default ?
[15:36] <penguin42> yeh
[15:36] <penguin42> there's a note in the release notes
[15:37] <penguin42> if I could find the release notes
[15:37] <trism> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta1#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS
[15:37] <BluesKaj> because I don't have muon installed that command worked for me
[15:37] <enrico_> Check a new release of ubuntu
[15:37] <enrico_> No new release found
[15:37] <enrico_> this is what I answered the terminal
[15:38] <penguin42> trism: Thanks!
[15:38] <penguin42> can someone replace the download link in the /title with that URL minus the # bit ?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> enrico_, open muon and follow the instructions ,on the url that trism posted
[15:43] <BluesKaj> trism, yeah that URL is gonna be handy when October rolls around ... gonna get plenty of requests needing that helpful site :)
[15:45] <penguin42> is it worth an SRU to do-release-upgrade on precise to actually give some diagnostics to -d (e.g. no suitable release found, only looking for LTS see....)
[15:53] <trism> actually a pretty good idea, we deal with the same thing every two years, would be nice to give some clues
[15:54]  * BluesKaj saves the relavant bookmark for future use
[15:55] <penguin42> trism: I'll add a bug for it
[15:57] <BluesKaj> er relevant
[15:57]  * BluesKaj enables spellcheck
[15:57] <Belial`> no message indicator support for kde-telepathy?
[15:57] <Belial`> or kde "im contacts" rather.
[16:01] <penguin42> trism: bug 1048285
[16:06] <smallfoot-> why does gnome-shell depend on gdm and xserver-xypher?
[16:08] <penguin42> very good question
[16:08] <smallfoot-> i think its a bit strange
[16:08] <penguin42> nod
[16:09] <smallfoot-> is it a bug?
[16:10] <penguin42> not sure
[16:12] <pietro10> ...
[16:12] <pietro10> well I figured out why firefox URL bar was looking weird, because now everything looks weird
[16:12] <pietro10> how do I re-enable font smoothing/alaiasing/whatever you call it?
[16:13] <pietro10> *eveyrthing on y system
[16:18] <pietro10> so how do I re-enable font smoothing/aliasing/etc.? I tried setting the respective option in theKDE settings but that did nothing
[16:18] <pietro10> the Ubuntu font just looks wide and none of the fonts are being smoothed so they look blurry
[16:20] <pietro10> also what should I do to report bugs with kwin's zooming (which is what I upgraded to the beta to catch)?
[16:20] <pietro10> here? or to KDE?
[16:20] <pietro10> *where should I go to
[16:20] <penguin42> probably KDE
[16:21] <penguin42> pietro10: Unless it's an ubuntu specific bug most stuff just bounces straight upstream
[16:25] <pietro10> ok
[16:25] <pietro10> not sure if they are ubuntu specific so eh
[16:25] <pietro10> I'm still wondering about the efonts though
[16:36] <ripps> I'm using gnome-shell, and fonts suddenly started looking blurry. I don't know it's kinda weird. I've messed with the font options in the gnome tweak tool (rgba + slight hinting) but it just doesn't look right
[16:37] <ripps> it seems pietro10 is seeing this in kde as well. was there a change in xorg or something, I'm not even sure what software and package is responsible for font smoothing
[16:39] <crf> Hi. I was building Totem from source. In unity, there is menu missing. If I run gnome-fallback, the menu is there.
[16:41] <IdleOne> crf: I think you need to create a .desktop file
[16:43] <crf> ok, I'll investigate that route.
[16:43] <crf> thanks
[16:46] <IdleOne> crf: this should be useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/72535/creating-desktop-files-to-use-on-the-open-with-other-application-tab
[16:46] <penguin42> yofel: Have you got a bot trained to report bugs for you?
[16:46] <yofel> we do have one for packaging bugs
[16:46] <penguin42> yofel: Very nice
[16:47] <ripps> oh! I figured out what was wrong with the fonts. I forgot that I enabled FXAA in my nvidia opengl settings, I wasn't aware it would to antialias my entire desktop using fxaa
[16:48] <pietro10> so the solution is to turn off FXAA?
[16:48] <ripps> that worked for me
[16:49] <pietro10> ...it's disabled for me
[16:49] <pietro10> actually I might have a better diagnosis now
[16:49] <pietro10> the bitmap fonts are being used and not the truetype fonts
[18:47]  * penguin42 was about to say he was impressed by llvm pipe running compiz in a vm - when it segd
[19:10] <pietro10> penguin42: oops
[20:13] <klotzek> Hi
[20:27] <pietro10> hi
[21:05] <utops> why i've got splash screen on grub from debian? even some wallpapers.
[21:14] <jbicha> utops: did you install "gnome"?
[21:17] <utops> well,yes because unity won't start  at first reboot after dist-upgrade,so i actually do that.
[21:21] <jbicha> "gnome" is the Debian metapackage to get a full GNOME desktop, it includes desktop-base which has all of the Debian art
[21:22] <jbicha> you probably want to install either gnome-shell or you can try the new ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> jbicha; ubuntu-gnome-desktop ?
[22:08] <stupidman> hi
[22:08] <stupidman> hey
[22:08] <MrChrisDruif> Hi stupidman
[22:08] <trism> !final | stupidman
[22:08] <stupidman> ok
[22:08] <stupidman> do 12.10 get 3.6 llinux?
[22:09] <Daekdroom> !info linux
[22:09] <Daekdroom> 3.5
[22:09] <stupidman> yes i nknow
[22:09] <stupidman> but will i get 3.6 linux?
[22:09] <Daekdroom> Highly unlikely.
[22:14] <utops> Just removed gnome-desktop and installed ubuntu-desktop,that means  unity and no gnome,right?
[22:14] <Daekdroom> Now you'll have both.
[22:15] <Daekdroom> !info gnome-desktop
[22:15] <Daekdroom> The bot might be outdated, but I presume that's the GNOME remix metapackage.
[22:17] <utops> Still? I mean i know some parts of gnome  are asimilated to unity,but whole gnome? holly macarel
[22:18] <Daekdroom> Well, removing a metapackage usually doesn't remove its dependencies.
[22:19] <lucas-arg> guys anyone having problems opening software-center?
[22:22] <utops>  sudo apt-get remove gnome* ?
[22:22] <lucas-arg> why would i do that?
[22:22] <utops> lucas-arg: sorry it's not for you.
[22:22] <lucas-arg> ok
[22:24] <lucas-arg> no idea about software center???
[22:24] <utops> lucas-arg: btw i have this problem,but not anymore after i harvest out gnome and install ubuntu-desktop . now it's working good. but i dunno where the problem really is.
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> c
[23:03] <saulotoledo> Hello all! I've installed Quantal packages here, but I'm unable to put my Gnome 3 installation in my language (pt_BR). After use "locale -a" at terminal, I see pt_BR.utf8, but I think should be pt_BR.UTF-8. This can be my problem? How can I fix this?
[23:46] <mininessie> is there a minecraft launcher to launch minecraft without paying for the launcher in the software center
[23:48] <JontheEchidna> mininessie: there's a download for the actual launcher on minecraft.net, but as far as one in the Software Center, dunno. http://www.minecraft.net/download
[23:49] <mininessie> JontheEchidna: that just get the jar and you have to run in the terminal right? which is not what i want to do
[23:50] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[23:50] <mininessie> well i want to just be able to run it by clicking on an icon app type thing
[23:52] <mininessie> can i do that?